OG SMG. At some point during development, the magazine got moved to a more normal bottom-feed position, then it got cut completely. It got released in Halo 2 instead, with the side-feeding magazine again, this time in a P90-style rotating feeder magazine. tl;dr SMG has been through some shit lol
@@apersonontheinternet7595 And the game also didn't damn well work on it upon release XD You needed ABOVE reccomended settings because gearbox did such a shiddy job porting it XD
@@apersonontheinternet7595😂 yeah, now the nvidia 5000 series is supposed to come out at the end of the year and you'll probably have to refinance your home and get a bank loan to afford it
They should’ve never cut the assault rifle with under barrel grenade launcher, that against hunters and the flood would’ve been sooo fun especially because the shotgun is hella OP so I don’t see it as a balancing issue since it wouldn’t take away from any weapon options and could’ve made it found on only certain levels.
@@martindovah3810not really. the rocket launcher takes up an entire weapon slot where as the underbarrel grenade launcher is attached to the AR, plus it has a faster projectile and doesn't need to be reloaded.
@@essentialjazzforaspiringmu1605 that's because the rocket launcher is far more situational that the assault rifle, so a lot of the time you'll be stuck waiting for a specific situation to use it in.
@@XhoiZhuleku Okay but that just aids the point Im making. Adding a grenade launcher to the AR that does the same thing as the rocket launcher negates the need for a rocket launcher at all. Why waste a weapon slot on using the rocket launcher if the grenade launcher does the same job with more flexibility and practicality? Thus, why keep the rocket launcher in the game at all?
Yeah its always be strange to think about how radically different the series may have been with how many gameplay styles and changes were made over the course of its development, if i rember correctly at one point the game was more like just cause in space 😅. Makes you wonder if the series would have been as successful if it had come out in one of these other forms?
I don't know if it would have been as successful as a third person shooter or strategy game, interesting it went through so many changes, but they were for the better for sure
In halo 3, the mission Cortana was supposed to be divided in 2 missions, one where you rescue Cortana and one with cut content where you would have to fight and kill (again) the fallen arbiters infected by the flood in the arbiter coliseum
Imagine if we could go to alternate timelines and just try out alternate versions of the games we love. Whose to say we got the best version of a game or the worst?
If I remember correctly it started off as an RTS, then a top down 3rd person shooter, to finally what we know today. The whole story behind Halo's development is a trip
It's so funny learning up on games like CE and HL1. Their development was so ad hoc and chaotic but it meshed well together like a bunch of street musicians coming together for a random impromptu concert.
You know they based the Marine Armor on the movie Aliens. The fact the assualt rifle in this has an underbarrel grenade launcher reminds me of the pulse rifle.
Somewhere a universe exists in which that's the one we got, and idk in some way I think me in that universe loves that version because I feel like I'm missing out
I swear I remember having some sort of demo disc of that version of halo at one point. I didn't realize it was halo, but I clearly remember the early helmet design and the flamethrower and that rocky seaside setting.
From the looks the assault rifle that we have now it’s clear that the forward grip was supposed to be a grenade launcher but was switched with a flash light. Would’ve loved to have it on there
What's lame is just we could've added these things later. During the re sale of the better graphics. Even the AD! Would've been hilarious to hear a marine say. There's even a skull for that kind of talk.
I mean as someone who has beaten CE more times than I can count it looked exactly like it was meant to the game is goated by those who experienced it upon release nothing could stand up to it in its day it was perfect
@@tylerellis9097 You can tell there aren't many 343 employees involved because it's actually been successful! (343 industries try to make something good challenge)
Probably the Pillar of Autumn didnt have the grenade launcher ammunition like the fact that in a mission there is odst wearing marine armor because the pillar of autumn didnt have odst armor
Ya man it was half life and diablo for years then xbox dropped with Halo. Was a glorious summer man and thats why i still play halo multiplayer till this day
I have a copy of the version they used for the graphics card add Its the same as the reguler e3 demo they had on display The gpu add is its own video file The only level is the silent cartographer And i has a version of bloodgulch with a diffrent spawn for the flamethrower
What's sad, is that alot of these things could've fit in, the expanded universe. When halo 3 came out the History was more or less cemented. So adding these things in the following games here and there, would've showed alot. Namely in this scenario many human colonies were around for a long time before the events of halo, therefore you can have older and more varied weapons and vehicles, and chalk it up to equipment that wasn't standardized.
It would’ve done well and held the same tone as the released ce. Story may have been different but the multiplayer system layout would have been the same with the 8 screens on one tv with 8v8 lan parties
The footage you're showing is a mod called Crash Site. It uses updated pre-release assets from the Digsite team to work in an FPS rendition of Halo, compared to when it was going to be a third person shooter. It would have been more accurate of you to show the 1999 Macworld trailer or the E3 2000 trailer, to be honest.
Appreciate the clarification, I thought the map used in many of the digsite mods such as crash site was similar if not exactly the one used in the commercial
Interestingly, Halo: Combat Evolved did end up running exclusively by Nvidia GPUs: X GPU, XGPU-S, and XGPU-B. They are better known by their codename "NV2A" as part of the same family as the Geforce3 and 4 GPUs.
That makes me excited for the fact that maybe 343 will include this stuff to replace what the original halo CE had it definitely will be interesting and I hope the remake of the first three games aren’t reboots like what happened with Modern warfare
UNSC Marine: Did you know? That reach was destroyed because they didn't had the new NVIDIA GeForce 2GTS, glad that we have a pelican full of this card here in installation 04 to fight the covenant... Somehow...
I ran flame thrower on most bug missions for a loooong time, since they nerfed I havent touched it. Tried each of the new flame guns for a mission each and hated them, seems really fun but their damage output was horrible, and the secondary was even worse with how small the fuel reserve is (I understand its a secondary but with the nerfs its good for maybe a small handful of weak enemies). Have since gone back to the cookout and i do enjoy it, HOWEVER, it doesn't feel like it packs the punch it should. Really enjoy it against warriors and lower, as well as shriekers, and it's great against brood commanders and stalkers as far as stopping them and getting some space, but again feels a bit underpowered for them.
It would have been nice if you clarified that you're playing the mod you didn't name when stating modders brought the cut weapons back. This isn't what the game would have looked like, but this is the best interpretation from these modders. Only then models and textures were extracted. They mode animations, the map, coding, etc.
It was originally built for apple, then ported to PC before release. But then they scrambled to port it exclusively to Xbox and had to cut out a ton of the game content. Not saying it was a bad evolution. But I remember these ads and the old Se7enth Column boards. I used to have OG voice cuts and bloopers on a school laptop. Error alerts screamed "This sucKs with a capital K!!" 😂😂
Original chief was supposed to be a cyborg. If you play MCC, one of the last missions mentions chief being s cyborg. It says something like "wage a one-cyborg army against the covenant." I don't remember the full thing.
That side magazine loading gun looked pretty cool
OG SMG. At some point during development, the magazine got moved to a more normal bottom-feed position, then it got cut completely. It got released in Halo 2 instead, with the side-feeding magazine again, this time in a P90-style rotating feeder magazine. tl;dr SMG has been through some shit lol
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In a pc mod for Halo 3 (Mythic Overhaul) they add it and it's much more nice than a single smg but smg still duel wields in which becomes better
Was gunna say the same thing !
Absolutely not..
The nvidia 2 💀 oh the good ol days
simplistic times…
@@apersonontheinternet7595 And the game also didn't damn well work on it upon release XD You needed ABOVE reccomended settings because gearbox did such a shiddy job porting it XD
@@apersonontheinternet7595😂 yeah, now the nvidia 5000 series is supposed to come out at the end of the year and you'll probably have to refinance your home and get a bank loan to afford it
@@BigWhiskey09Well, you don’t have to get a 5090.
@@zorth4729 I couldn't afford one even if I wanted one 😂
They should’ve never cut the assault rifle with under barrel grenade launcher, that against hunters and the flood would’ve been sooo fun especially because the shotgun is hella OP so I don’t see it as a balancing issue since it wouldn’t take away from any weapon options and could’ve made it found on only certain levels.
I feel like it would have been somewhat redundant in the face of the rocket launcher when considering the limitations of the engine.
@@martindovah3810not really.
the rocket launcher takes up an entire weapon slot where as the underbarrel grenade launcher is attached to the AR, plus it has a faster projectile and doesn't need to be reloaded.
@@XhoiZhulekuso why not just never use the rocket launcher?
@@essentialjazzforaspiringmu1605 that's because the rocket launcher is far more situational that the assault rifle, so a lot of the time you'll be stuck waiting for a specific situation to use it in.
@@XhoiZhuleku Okay but that just aids the point Im making. Adding a grenade launcher to the AR that does the same thing as the rocket launcher negates the need for a rocket launcher at all. Why waste a weapon slot on using the rocket launcher if the grenade launcher does the same job with more flexibility and practicality? Thus, why keep the rocket launcher in the game at all?
The ad reminds me of starship troopers
*_"THIS IS THE FUTURE OF GAMING!"_*
Halo copied a lot of shit from the movie
It copied more from aliens though
I thought that play Halo CE would be playing Starship troopers videogame in 2004 😂
@@AaronCubitt96 all games copied thing from movie not News at all....
Seeing old builds of Halo look so cool.
Yeah there's an awful lot of them too
Indeed.
Yeah its always be strange to think about how radically different the series may have been with how many gameplay styles and changes were made over the course of its development, if i rember correctly at one point the game was more like just cause in space 😅. Makes you wonder if the series would have been as successful if it had come out in one of these other forms?
I don't know if it would have been as successful as a third person shooter or strategy game, interesting it went through so many changes, but they were for the better for sure
In halo 3, the mission Cortana was supposed to be divided in 2 missions, one where you rescue Cortana and one with cut content where you would have to fight and kill (again) the fallen arbiters infected by the flood in the arbiter coliseum
It was supposed to be a RTS at first
Imagine if we could go to alternate timelines and just try out alternate versions of the games we love. Whose to say we got the best version of a game or the worst?
At one point it was 3rd person shooter
There's a mod called havoc mod, it brought up all these cut weapons and vehicles.
Even the nvidia flamethrower card?
All this content was released by 343i you don't need mods for this
@@Cooler_By_The_Lake I don't know where 343 released this but mods make changes to the game to make it fun, try it.
@@mad-zeyroc6940the game is fun without mods that are often unprofessional and unpolished and not what the developers intended
@@producedby3am344 just try it. It just takes what the devs intended and scaled it a bit.
I love the first person view of the machine gun. Looks kinda rad.
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If I remember correctly it started off as an RTS, then a top down 3rd person shooter, to finally what we know today. The whole story behind Halo's development is a trip
Yes indeed, a trip !!
Or, should we say...
A great Journey !
Halo combat evolved halo wars style would've been wild, still glad halo ended up picking the way they did
For a second I taught it was doom with that mini gun at the start
It's so funny learning up on games like CE and HL1. Their development was so ad hoc and chaotic but it meshed well together like a bunch of street musicians coming together for a random impromptu concert.
It would be nice that in this remake they bring some cut content back
Some? No, bring it all back.
All of this looked awesome.
I'm not sure what 343 would try to bring back content cut 20 yrs ago by a different studio in their NEW halo game
You know they based the Marine Armor on the movie Aliens. The fact the assualt rifle in this has an underbarrel grenade launcher reminds me of the pulse rifle.
Its a flashlight
I’m glad the Orion armor made a comeback for multiplayer H2A
I’ve worked in the gaming industry. I’ve actually played this version a long time ago. Good to see it again.
Somewhere a universe exists in which that's the one we got, and idk in some way I think me in that universe loves that version because I feel like I'm missing out
I swear I remember having some sort of demo disc of that version of halo at one point. I didn't realize it was halo, but I clearly remember the early helmet design and the flamethrower and that rocky seaside setting.
Ironically I’m replaying all the halos on heroic before I go onto legendary mode, and I’m on CE since I started only a handful of days back
Real, Godspeed soldier, your gonna genuinely go through hell and back on legendary 🫡
I’m doing my 3rd legendary play through. On two betrayals in ce rn
I find it funny when people find concepts and say that is how it was supposed to look lol. like nah it was supposed to look like what we got.
Tribes 2 lookin' slopes. Hope Chief practiced his skiing.
From the looks the assault rifle that we have now it’s clear that the forward grip was supposed to be a grenade launcher but was switched with a flash light. Would’ve loved to have it on there
i picture this version like i experienced:
“odd world munches odyssey” for the first time; much different yet still has that CE effect
AR with a GL attachment. Damn.. we really got shafted. 😔
You can play this mission in a mod now!
DUDE THE GRENADE LAUNCHER ASSAULT RIFLE WOULD BE FUCKING AMAZING
I remember being given an Nvidia card by my grandpa that had pictures on box from the RPG Halo demo.
The initial character design for Halo's player character would have made Halo's links to the Marathon Trilogy even more obvious. :)
Oh yes I'm in the middle of an alien war in 2552 but I sure am glad I have some technology from 500 years ago
What's lame is just we could've added these things later. During the re sale of the better graphics. Even the AD! Would've been hilarious to hear a marine say. There's even a skull for that kind of talk.
That's not how it was supposed to look but it has some interesting things
Bro we're getting old.
I mean as someone who has beaten CE more times than I can count it looked exactly like it was meant to the game is goated by those who experienced it upon release nothing could stand up to it in its day it was perfect
Most of these were not dug up by modders, but by the Digsite Team from 343 whose job it is to dig this stuff up,
The Digsite team is made up of 95% modders and 2-3 343 employees
@@tylerellis9097 You can tell there aren't many 343 employees involved because it's actually been successful! (343 industries try to make something good challenge)
Modders and 343 worked together
@@tylerellis9097No, it's mostly just people from 343i
@@caramelldansen2204For as much contempt as I hold for 343i, modders are much, much worse. They need to be kept as far away as possible.
Time to look for halo ce mods to play with all this cool stuff
The fact they forgot the Grenade launcher in CE pisses me off til this day
Probably the Pillar of Autumn didnt have the grenade launcher ammunition like the fact that in a mission there is odst wearing marine armor because the pillar of autumn didnt have odst armor
It’s not just modders it’s literally the developers
Granade launcher AR needs to return in the next halo considering that the attachment is indeed cannon
Ya man it was half life and diablo for years then xbox dropped with Halo.
Was a glorious summer man and thats why i still play halo multiplayer till this day
I have a copy of the version they used for the graphics card add
Its the same as the reguler e3 demo they had on display
The gpu add is its own video file
The only level is the silent cartographer
And i has a version of bloodgulch with a diffrent spawn for the flamethrower
It was actually supposed to be an RTS game for Mac. Even more different then explained in this short
I’m 3 months older than OG halo.
Really wish they would have left most of the cut content in the series, really would have been so much different but better for it at the same time
Damn some of those guns would've been dope
Bro the assault rifle not having a grenade launcher seems dumb to me now
What's sad, is that alot of these things could've fit in, the expanded universe. When halo 3 came out the History was more or less cemented. So adding these things in the following games here and there, would've showed alot. Namely in this scenario many human colonies were around for a long time before the events of halo, therefore you can have older and more varied weapons and vehicles, and chalk it up to equipment that wasn't standardized.
Warthog gun actually spinning? Heresy
Just wait until you hear master chiefs original voice
Wasn't the last time they had a misleading E3 build
Can you imagine what old school Bungie could have made if the suits at Microsoft just let them cook and didn't make life hell for them?
I gotta try to see if the Halo mythic TTRPG has some of the cut guns
The AR was supposed to have a granade lancher😢
They have a mod for this on halo the master chief collection played it with my buddy it was interesting and fun
That's crazy my hand me down computer that I was amazed ran halo CE when i was a kid had a GeForce 2 lol
It makes sense the AR had a GL on it, it still looks like a GL, now its juat a flash light.😂
It would’ve done well and held the same tone as the released ce. Story may have been different but the multiplayer system layout would have been the same with the 8 screens on one tv with 8v8 lan parties
The footage you're showing is a mod called Crash Site. It uses updated pre-release assets from the Digsite team to work in an FPS rendition of Halo, compared to when it was going to be a third person shooter. It would have been more accurate of you to show the 1999 Macworld trailer or the E3 2000 trailer, to be honest.
Appreciate the clarification, I thought the map used in many of the digsite mods such as crash site was similar if not exactly the one used in the commercial
Must have been the inspiration to Helldivers
Oh man why did they throw all this away?!! Crazy 😢
Imagine how hard both the old fans and the devs, the people that destroyed halo in the first place, are trying to sell you this game.
Reminds me of mace griffin, bounty hunter
That’s why they arc is being rebuilt and in Halo infinite is good if you have a huge DLC once it gets onto Newcastle, I meant to say console
you mean to tell me the ma5b assault rifle had an integrated grenade launcher? AND I WAS DENIED THIS?!
Interestingly, Halo: Combat Evolved did end up running exclusively by Nvidia GPUs: X GPU, XGPU-S, and XGPU-B. They are better known by their codename "NV2A" as part of the same family as the Geforce3 and 4 GPUs.
And the. The elites go “oh no not the Nvidia 2600GTS!!”
Lol
The AR looks more like a FAMAS
It kinda does tho
More like the F2000. The BR would be closer to the FAMAS.
@nohrii023 this version of the AR is closer to the FAMAS than later versions.
@@iforgotmyname1885 🧐🤔
That makes me excited for the fact that maybe 343 will include this stuff to replace what the original halo CE had it definitely will be interesting and I hope the remake of the first three games aren’t reboots like what happened with Modern warfare
Yeah so right after this they were switched to a launch title for the Xbox, and basically had restart development from almost the square 1.
UNSC Marine: Did you know? That reach was destroyed because they didn't had the new NVIDIA GeForce 2GTS, glad that we have a pelican full of this card here in installation 04 to fight the covenant... Somehow...
Can you imagine all the fun we would have fun if they kept a grenade launcher under the AR
We got dug up MA5B Hydra prototype before an enjoyable 343i Halo title
infinite is a good game
The Digsite team found cut content with the help of 343. 343 even added lore to a lot of the new content.
I ran flame thrower on most bug missions for a loooong time, since they nerfed I havent touched it. Tried each of the new flame guns for a mission each and hated them, seems really fun but their damage output was horrible, and the secondary was even worse with how small the fuel reserve is (I understand its a secondary but with the nerfs its good for maybe a small handful of weak enemies). Have since gone back to the cookout and i do enjoy it, HOWEVER, it doesn't feel like it packs the punch it should. Really enjoy it against warriors and lower, as well as shriekers, and it's great against brood commanders and stalkers as far as stopping them and getting some space, but again feels a bit underpowered for them.
Is the nvidia what Master Guns had in his hands during Halo 2 😮
Not "supposed" to look. That was just early development. Words matter.
RIP E3 man
Would have loved that minigun
Under slug grenade launcher on the battle rifle bro..
It would have been nice if you clarified that you're playing the mod you didn't name when stating modders brought the cut weapons back.
This isn't what the game would have looked like, but this is the best interpretation from these modders. Only then models and textures were extracted. They mode animations, the map, coding, etc.
2 GTS was my first GPU 😢
This looks so sick
Imagine buying shares of Nvidia back then...
It was supposed to be a Mac exclusive but somehow Microsoft got it to be a Microsoft exclusive
Lol, halo was supposed to be an RTS and people forget that.
It was also owned by apple initially.
Well yeah they pretty much rebooted development almost from scratch like as this trailer was being put out lol.
Marty might have a answers
Woah we were ROBBED
It was originally built for apple, then ported to PC before release. But then they scrambled to port it exclusively to Xbox and had to cut out a ton of the game content. Not saying it was a bad evolution. But I remember these ads and the old Se7enth Column boards. I used to have OG voice cuts and bloopers on a school laptop. Error alerts screamed "This sucKs with a capital K!!" 😂😂
Makes me wonder what 343 has in store for the re-release
that just looks like if call of duty mw came out at that time
UBGL might make the AR not feel like ass.
ima kinda pissed we didnt get the MA5B with the grenade launcher
Anyone else think that the Halo AR would have been awesome with a grenade launcher?
The Nvidia Gforce 2. Jesus Christ lol
why are the soldiers guns in the background using the sound effects of Half-Life 2's SMG??
Original chief was supposed to be a cyborg. If you play MCC, one of the last missions mentions chief being s cyborg. It says something like "wage a one-cyborg army against the covenant." I don't remember the full thing.
Ahhh the nvidia 2 😂 i feel like a fuckin fossil now
Imagine watching this and buyinh nvidia and Microsoft stocks
Did I just hear Half-Life 2 SMG SFX?
Oh yeah
It's probably a stock sound effect.
kendrick lamar was talking notes for him to be drakes number 1 hater 😂
glad they changed it. looks like so many other rpgs of the 90s era otherwise.