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- I borrowed a lovely '80's Tokai from my friend Andy (many thanks!) and did a mild set-up on it for him, so this is a great opportunity to compare two contemporary Japanese products.
Both coming from the period where Fender was left cold-footed by the demand for a historically accurate re-issue of the models from the '50's and early '60's that guitarists craved in the early '80's and had set up the new Fender with Dan Smith at the helm with a view to producing the Fullerton re-issue series that started in the early 1980's.
While they were setting up, they brought in companies in Japan who had been producing the models that so accurately brought back the classics and Fujigen Gakki were employed to produce the Squier brand and the JV series for internal Japanese consumption.
This satisfied the demand for these models until the USA plant could start producing them in quantity.
So here is a sound comparison between 2 of these guitars - the Japanese answer to the classic Fender models.
I'm using a Carr Skylark and attenuator here also.
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Nice review!
If I could kindly ask (if you still have the guitar, though I'm guessing probably not now, Tokai) could you measure the string spacing (is it wide or narrow string spacing?) whats the measurement of the width of the saddles on the tremolo block/bridge. And what is the nut width at the 1st fret. I have small hands. Thanks.
Unfortunately you guessed correctly. It's back with its owner now. I will say that it felt like a normal strat though with a mid 60's C neck. Not chunky at all but not ultra slim. String spacing felt normal like a modern Fender player strat.
Hey Paul, I like the Tokai better. The JV seems to sport hotter pickups, and it looks like you feel more comfortable with the '84. But then I may be wrong!
I think the Tokai might actually be better yes lol. My friend won't sell it though 😔
It took a bit of work to set it up and the radius is actually tighter than 7.25" weirdly. The JV has USA Fullerton pickups...
@@gringopig Cant blame him !
He most def sounded or played better on the Tokai
I want one..now
They are out there! 👍my pal Andy owns this and he's keeping it dammit lol
The video sound is pretty good, beyond my imagination
Thank you!
Hi,
I just bought a Tokai Goldstar Sound 'Mary Kaye' Strat (Made in Japan)
All gold hardware, single ply white pickguard, see through blonde, ash body and vintage tuning keys.
There are no serial numbers. Any idea how I can date this guitar and establish the model and specs please? It is in absolutely mint condition.
Nothing on the neck plate?
I think a good way to start investigating would be too look at the electronics. If the potentiometers have date codes that would pin it down to bring made after that date. The neck pocket might hold clues too and the pickup cavities. If you take the pickguard off and document the components then remove the neck it would aid identification. There must be a legion of Tokai enthusiasts out there who could tell from the outward indications and these inside clues as to what it is. The neck pocket often has ink stamped model numbers. Also check out this website for Tokai dating! tokairegistry.com/tokai-info/tokai-fender.html
is it an E or U pickups on the TOKAI?
I'm afraid I don't know. I borrowed it from my friend and did a setup for him but didn't take it apart. Sorry!
Tokai
That looks Minty😊
I suspect it wasn't played a lot sadly since the owner bought it. I did a set up and cleaned it up and gave it back. It probably still isn't played much lol
Wow! Neither of those sounds too shabby. For me it would have to be whichever felt best in the hand. I’ve owned several Tokais and they have all been great but never a S-style (for reasons which I don’t understand now). The single layer white scratch plate with 3 tone sunburst doesn’t look quite right to me but I don’t if that is historically accurate. Anyway it definitely wouldn’t put me off!
I think fender did the single ply 3 tone sunburst in 1958. Tokai thought so anyway lol. That one is back with it's owner but it was really good. No wonder Fender were impressed with Japanese products. I bought my JV brand new with hard case in 1984 or 5. I still have the receipt 👍 from the infamous music ground in Doncaster.
@@gringopig yeah just before the switch to rosewood boards.
I own both. The Tokai is on a par with a current CS Fender. The Jap Fender is good, but not quite as good.
I recently got a new Tokai TST. Be warned, they do NOT make them like they used to. It's nearer a Mexican Fender, and costs nearly double what the Mexican Fender costs.
Yes the Tokai guitars aren't the same as they were. The old ones are what made Fender start making reissues of the classic designs again and hence the JV series. They made them with attention to detail and they clearly loved the old guitars. I like my JV but it's not as good as my CS strat. The Tokai pickups were better than the USA made ones in the JV.
@@gringopig Yeah, I have a 79 Fender Strat, as well. You can walk in to any store on the planet today, hand over £300 and get a better Strat than that. At the moment, I would say Tokai are going through their 'CBS period'. The neck fit on the new one is disgraceful, the pickups are just generic Asian pickups and the trem unit likewise. The pricetag is so high, that one shop in Glasgow has stopped taking them, because they feel they aren't worth the money.
'I was there' when your Tokai was a new guitar.
I have given it back to its owner now. My pal Andy at work. He won't sell it lol. I've played 79s a well. So heavy and they look like they have been inflated like a balloon rather than carved from wood.
I have the exact same Toki which I bought new on 84
This was a friend's and he must have bought it the same year as you. It's a great guitar!
@@gringopig I was going through a phase of trying to copy Richard Thompson.... varying degrees of success 😊
Ha yes. Quite tricky that lol
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All the Tokai vs Fender comparisons always point to the Tokai having brighter pickups...which almost make it seem like they have more harmonics or undertones...hell maybe they do: Japanese Tokai has amazing attention to detail when it comes down to their fret work. AND you know what they say: the devil's in the details
These 80's Tokai guitars are really great. No wonder Fender were worried lol
@@gringopig yes they were. The new ones also seem very well crafted. Even the Chinese ones are great from what I've seen!