To REALLY increase engine efficiency , the best and most obvious thing is : eliminate the 3 parasitic cycles of the 4 stroke engine (why they are 20% or less efficient) duh....
At 5m45sec your Venturi illustration is incorrect, the proper placement of the throttle butterfly is after the Venturi. A butterfly before the Venturi is a choke.
What manufacturers do now is put more sensors, and fancy mechanical stuff on the engines to make them more fuel efficient. Bad news for people like me who are mechanics. It's getting harder and harder to work on cars yourself unfortunately
oh don't worry i will still need you to take a look at my 1998 honda hornet the only electronic thing in there is a transistor for the ignition 😂 everything else is electromechanical
6:55 ish. You got a sub out of that just because you literally took the time to draw every specific one of the sensors out individually....bringing back all those aggravating moments from my youth. Sharp.
I went to college, got a degree in automotive technology and worked as an apprentice with BMW. And I have to say this is the most comprehensive summary of engine fuel-technology and evolution I've ever seen.👍
Was expecting you to show turbos haha, because thats the new trend small engines with powerful turbos so they dont lack power and are very fuel efficient
They rev higher meaning more fuel is getting pumped in overtime which is less fuel efficient its common sense turbos making an engine more fuel efficient is a myth
@@patrickbateman2869 nah they rev lower as turbo does more work so you dont need to put foot down as much. My turbo kicks in around 2500rpm which is low to say i can rev to 6500rpm. But on some newer cars they kick in even lower.
Twin turbo seems to work pretty efficiently on my F150. If I drive like a sane person, it's fairly fuel efficient. If I stomp on it, she goes like stink, and definitely uses more fuel than usual, but still less than my old F150
Modern engines ARE amazing. My car has a 2.0 turbodiesel that produces 184 horsepower and it will average 60+ MPG on a long motorway trip. I'm only 46 and remember when I was a kid that you could smell cars as they drove past you down the road. You rarely, if ever, smell that now because fuel metering is so accurate and efficient.
Diesels are great but i dont think gas cars will ever come close to what the diesels can do. I remembermy dad telling me he had an old early 70s 4cyl 5 speed gettig over 40mpg no emmisions just a little old 4 cylinder. Yes emmissions are nessasary now but we were able to get better miles per gallon without them. Even my diesel truck gets better mpg without all the emissions crap on it. Went from 16.7 to 23 after all the mods
Guy that’s not what I would call good I have a 92 v8 falcon that gets over 35mpg when I’m carting my work tools around and it done over 250 000 miles, if I had the engine rebuilt and didn’t have all the weight in the boot all the time my economy would be comparable with yours and my car is a nearly 30 year old car I threw together with leftovers, what is your car worth
That's true, the only time I can smell a car these days is on cold starts. Catalyst is too cold to function plus a rich AFR to compensate for a lack of fuel atomization in a cold engine. That or someone that has had their car tuned.
Where is the next video? And please do mention about cylinder deactivation too as well as tumbling and, HCCI (e.g. Mazda Skyactiv-X technology) which manipulates higher compression ratio to increase efficiency.
Madzdas Skyactive X is no HCCI....it is SPCCI, a spark is still needed to induce the rapid burn of the lean mix! Pure HCCI doesn't need a spark plug, it does it simply by compression and some free radicals from EGR (like the small COX engines)
I bought a 1979 Chevy half ton, full time 4WD pickup in 1984. It had the small block 350 and got about 10 mpg. I put lockout hubs, converted the transfer case to part time, dual exhaust, an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold, and a Holley 600 carb on it and increased the mpg to about 14-15. Mind you this was at speeds of 60-65 mph. That combination maybe put 200 hp to the rear wheels. I just did 1500 miles in my 2019 Silverado crew cab with 4WD and the 6.2 engine which puts about 350 hp to the rear wheels. At speeds of 70-85 mph I averaged 21 mpg. The improved efficiency of the new vehicles along with substantially (night and day) increase in power is truly mind blowing to me. I have no doubt I could average 23-25 mpg with the 2019 if I actually drove as slow now as we did back in the 80s when the speed limit was 55.
I have a Nissan Versa that has dinosaur tech (late 90s engine design) and early 2010s software. It makes 42.2 mpg in the highway :v Considering it costed me almost nothing and has never broken down, I guess I got a good deal
Used to be a Nissan master. Good Idea. Simple, only fail Nissan has is the CVT transmission. Any time a Customer receives a Nissan with out a CVT transmission, instead have a Manual Transmission. Dependability has increased Dramatically. CVT design is nice, durability/Longevity is Flawed.
A 1983 Volvo 240 which is shaped like a brick and has a 4 speed transmission with overdrive geared for 55mph highway driving still gets about 42mpg highway at 70mph. All my experiences with new cars have gotten about 30mpg highway so in my opinion new cars are useless at creating efficient engines, especially turbocharged 4 cylinder engines.
A rich mixture produces more power primarily because of the effect it has on reducing knock and combustion temperature. Though it's true some of the power comes from using up all the available oxygen, it's mainly from the additional ignition timing and (if turbocharged) boost that can be added with an enriched mixture.
That's right, that's exactly what water injection does, it gives you the ability to up your timing and or boost when the water injection is utilized, some people mistakenly think that the alchohol mixed in is what does it but it's primarily in it to keep it from freezing in lower temps, although with proper tuning the alchohol does add a little power it's the increase from being able to jack up the boost and timing from the cooling effect of the water injection that's most of the power increase, I know several guys that are street racers that got sick of messing with the mixture and re-mapped their systems to run water only (fair weather cars) and have told me that by the seat of their pants they can't tell the difference between straight water and the water/alchohol mix.
Engines actually make more power when slightly lean, the reason rich mixtures are run, especially on high performance engines is to control cylinder temperatures. Its always a compromise when tuning an engine between max power and blowing up/melting and engine. There is a tradeoff between running more timing and then running a little rich to drop cylinder temperatures to counter knock potential. But lean with a lot of timing would make more power but would be a ticking time bomb. For background I'm a mechanic that specializes in high performance Subarus, and work alot with building/tuning turbo cars.
Nice work as usual dude. Looking forward to the next video already. Lots of custom animations. I feel like you put in a ton of effort. Probably could even use more stock footage like some other youtubers but I guess it would make it more generic. I'm really excited to see what your 'personal style' develops into :)
Thanks! I’m still exploring what works and what doesn’t. Not gonna lie it gets exhausting sometimes but it’s definitely worth it, especially when I hear supportive words like yours. 👍
In case you don't live in America. Most cars here are giant SUVs and Pickup trucks that do 8-15mpg. The only car that was capable of 45mpg was VW Golf TDI which resulted in "Emissions Scandal"
Well in Europe, Euro regulation are so strict that stating car are most fuel efficient is laughable compared to us. A standard car (non hybrid) can easily achieve 5l/100 or less depending on age of the car. The problem is how Americans are stuck with the idea of big engines, 75hp for a car here is commun.
@Douglas Hamner the mpg ratings are using different gallons in the us and uk, the US uses us gallons and the UK uses imperial gallons which more volume.
Foxycat 21 totally agree, uk fuel is better quality too, my 2008 88bhp Yaris gets 60 mpg, now in 2019 cars still aren’t getting much if anymore mpg, I do have a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 as a weekend car though so I do like a bit of Americana
"Working volume" is a bit vague re: displacement, but I'm picking nits here of course. Piston swept volume would be more precise. Good video all the same. Cheers!
Compression has gotten better even without lead additives. I do not understand why. Is is all tiny improvements in timing, heat distribution, injection, ... ?
It’s because of the insane control that direct injection gives you. In WWII... Britain was dependent on 100+ octane fuel from the USA to power the Spitfire which used a carb. They also had to run rich both to keep the temperatures down (due to cooling effect of vapourizing fuel) and to prevent detonation from a poorly mixed charge being too lean in the furthest cylinders from the carb. Germany was getting the same performance out of 87 octane because they used direct injection. Each cylinder had a specific injector tuned to the airflow it would receive to make an almost perfect mixture... so they could boost the living daylights out of it and not have to worry about detonation. Even with sequential port fuel injection you can’t get precise enough control. Today’s cars are almost all direct injection and they use a lean burn... on the other side of peak where you can get detonation. Anti knock sensors will instantly retard the ignition timing if they sense detonation and also if you use regular grade fuel instead of premium if your car is made for it.
Yeah, that's nothing. 01 chevy 6.0 that gets 10 going easy on it. I just thought my fords were thirsty til I met this junk. And it gets like 1/3 of that now, since apparently the intake gasket or intake itself cracked a couple weeks ago when I drove through a rather large puddle. Even my carbed 390 with no overdrive blew this thing away. With power and efficiency.
Lol stay in your euro train world and leave American cars alone. We have something called choice. I know it’s hard for you to wrap your head around such things. People that want efficient cars get them. Those that don’t, don’t. We have just as efficient cars as whatever country you’re trying to compare us to. But because our governments don’t tax the hell out of fuel, and steal our money for trains, we can actually choose to have a less efficient car.
@@thomas_nl_ yeah, the logic is mind boggling but sadly all too common. as everyone already knows - 5% of the world's population but use 20% of the world's resources. bsically, parasites.
@@fokjohnpainkiller Chris Fokjohn Well I don't like paying taxes either, but: 1. It's better for the environment 2. It's not stealing; the money is used for other things like infrastructure, we have our railsystem, roads and social system are way better than whatever they have in the US. 3. SUVs suck
Most of the innovations in the auto industry from the late seventies until now have been designed by one freelance designer. Now that I have retired, I have designed an anti-knock device in my free time. It is one of my greatest achievements along with my Skyactiv designs. I will be keeping this one for myself! Running 38 degrees BTDC is not A problem with the device. Follow the roadmap... VTEC, Vortec, Voltec, Duratec, Ecotec and Ecoboost are just A few of my other designs.
That's how your car heater usually works, and one of the reasons why EV's are less efficient in winter. Otherwise, there's no real efficient/effective way of putting a heat based engine to generate power in your car because it would make the car too heavy/bulky. Also, it's generally inefficient to just radiate away heat, but it is necessary in this case or the coolant will become too hot, so it needs to be cooled down faster, which makes it even less efficient
And that is where you are wrong. 40% better gas mileage is worth it. If you're saying the design would be to difficult to make in order to be worth it, then you clearly did not even google either of the two names I gave you.
Great explanation of the earliest major developments in fuel economy. I believe you got one interesting fact a little wrong though: Emission regulated engines actually aren't targeting stoichiometric ratios. Instead they are targeting slightly richer (more fuel) ratios that will make the catalytic converters work a lot better. They actually cycle between moments of rich mixtures and near stoichiometric ones so that the catalytic converters can store some oxygen for their chemical reactions.
I knew a retired engineer. In 1992 He had the blueprints to a "Carburetor" He used the term " Carburetor" so that I would understand what he was talking about because I was nothing more than a mechanic and a woodworker. This "Carburetor" got 75 miles to the gallon with the big V8 engines. I said what? Why the hell are we using it? He told me the oil companies bought the rights to it & all he had left of it was the blueprints. He had 3 pages of super intricate blueprints. The only reason I got to see the blueprints was because, I told him I was learning how to read blueprints as a cabinet maker. That's when he said " would you like to see some blueprints?" I waited for him come out with the blueprints that took about 10 or 15 minutes because this gentleman was extremely eccentric! He owned a auto parts store & kept it stocked like a hoarder would. There was a 2-foot path that led to the desk but no one dare entered the building. You went to his door and a hollered. He came to the door and you told him what you needed then somehow, he would dig through that stuff and he knew exactly where everything was it only took them 10 or 15 minutes to find it. He had all the rare parts for the older cars. Parts that all the other auto parts stores did not have. He rode around in an old 60s Dodge car that had a 383 Hemi in it & he was proud of that engine! He also had three 426 Hemi engines that were new in the crates. Try pricing those on eBay someday. They're not your typical Hemi Motors! He drove his car around Stack to Brooke sealing full of car parts and who-knows-what but the car was always squatting and you could not see in the back seat. This guy was the real deal. One day he disappeared. A bulldozer came where the hell racquetball knocked his two story building to the ground and bulldozed it. All his Auto Parts along with his blueprints we're home. Off to the dump. They tore his house down. Five years later I seen him what's a lady going in a doctor's office. He had that had a stroke and his surviving son was the person responsible for destroying everything this man owned. The technology is out there but the oil companies or the government will make it go away!
Ronnie Pirtle Jr interesting. I don’t want to know how much humanity is being held back just because of some greedy bastards withholding patents. But then again, ICE vehicles are dead meat anyway, so why bother?!
Different units. 50 mpg(Imperial) = 42 mpg(US). And Diesels have awful NOx and particulate emissions that are ridiculously bad for human health. Diesel cars are dying, sales are massively down year on year and I say good riddance.
@@xeigen2 It's really unfortunate though. Diesel offers vastly better thermal efficiency and part load efficiency, though variable compression, variable valve timing, and direct injection are bringing gasoline engines closer to turbodiesels in terms of efficiency, while having inherently better emissions characteristics.
The engine you showed being built is a GDI, (Gasoline Direct Injection) engine. Which works slightly differently. Mostly in that it does what it sounds like and directly injects the fuel into the combustion chamber. It does this at much higher pressure than standard fuel injection, and allows running an ultra lean burn for greater efficiency.
Glad I found your channel and looking forward to more. Suggestion: don't run animations unless you are directly talking about them. This was especially distracting at 6:43, and could simply be changed by pausing the piston animation.
You know cars from the 50s could have got 50 miles to the gallon right all they had to do was add a heated carburetor that made it suck in more fuel Vapor than actual fuel liquid
@Randy Wiesendanger It is. My 1950's Austin A30 got 50MPG (850cc, four gears, manual). There is a TH-cam video of a test drive on the road where this is demonstrated driving on average roads of that era. OTOH, my 1950's Ford 105E (1200cc, side valve, 3 completely useless gears, manual) got 22 MPG, while my 2010 Ford Fusion (1400cc, 4-speed auto box) also got 22MPG. My 2010 Nissan X-Trail, and my 2013 Peugeot (both 1600cc turbo Diesel with intercooler) get 50MPG (with aircon off). Nissan got over 25MPG towing a caravan (Average over about 7,000 miles). Here (Europe), inlet and exhaust manifolds are normally bolted together to preheat the fuel/air mix. I am pretty sure they were doing that before WW2. Progress? Only in the level of dishonesty involved in reporting advances in fuel efficiency. Americans appear unable to design/build reasonably efficient car engines. (All car models and gallons are UK, but I have driven French, Italian and German cars, and the fuel efficiency was similar, although the performance and reliability was definitely not).
The main causes of efficiency improvement was from electronic fuel injection, and high compression ratios. That was 90% of it the rest is from gasoline direct injection or computer tuning. However the most efficient engine is opposed piston.
I remember the highly efficient Datsun 180U of the seventies. And the Opels of the eighties. I wonder if you dare to compare fuel consumption according to car weight.
Yeah, and how much did it weigh and how much power did it have and what features and safety mechanisms did it have... stupid comparison. Today you’re getting MUCH MORE out of those 43mpg.
I find it fascinating how people got engaged in the content of the video, so much so nobody mentioned the fact that the sparkplug was put upside down in the engine at 1:13
You missed the deceleration phase (deliberately?) where carburettors fail too and EFI is so much more efficient. When the throttle is closed at speed the sudden increase in manifold vacuum draws additional fuel into the intake, which although burnt as part of the combustion process serves no useful purpose. EFI has the ability to disable the injectors completely above a certain engine speed (often around 1500-1800rpm for a 4 cylinder engine) with the throttle closed, and thereby using no fuel at all. This is an argument I often use against people who insist that 'coasting' (eg depressing the clutch and letting the engine idle during deceleration) is more economical.
My car on decline only disable injectors if i don't press the pedal. il i don't press the trotle, consumption fall to zero but motor brake. If i press the clutch and don't press gas pedal consumption falls to zero and no motor brake. It's a recent suzuki. An improvement on fuel economy will be to automaticaly press the clutch to desactivate all the motor on decline (no motor brake). On shell chalenge with 1 liter they make 3500 km but they drive quite time on free wheeling.
Right? I guess it's the target audience though. It was a good introduction to internal combustion engines. Now everyone can go over to Engineering Explained and start to understand turbos, variable cam timing, hybridisation and compensation for super high compression ratios.
Absolutely true... Just saying something isn't t true, doesn't make it true. Mechanical is damn near always more reliable, and when it isn't you can fix it with a hammer. Not literally, so shut up. And I don't mean an old wore out mechanical engine vs a brand new zero mile electronic. More parts, means more chances for things to break, especially sensors that are adversely affected by the elements and just the engine running itself. I have a perfect example in my driveway. If it were carbureted, there wouldn't really be a problem. 99% of people wouldn't even notice it. But since it's efi, and a particularly poor design, the slightly cracked intake gasket tells the computer to make it run like complete crap. Not that efi is bad, I like it. But only properly designed systems, that don't require tons of maintenance or that I drive like a granny. But manufacturers are going off the deep end, and really not giving you what you pay for. My 76 390 Ford would run like a bat out of hell, and got better mileage than the 01 chevy 6.0 I spoke of earlier. And was MUCH more reliable. I've been easy on this thing, and it still sucks down fuel and breaks all the time. So, newer doesn't mean better, old doesn't mean obsolete. If you use modern manufacturing techniques, applied to simpler, proven designs, you get better reliability. Look at mechanical diesels, they run forever. I have a '68 Ford 3000 tractor my grandpa bought new, that is still running great with nothing more than basic maintenance. And his john deere that was bought around 02 has been nothing but trouble. One of the first parts to go out on any vehicle is the electric fuel pump. If it's all mechanical, it starts out with an advantage. To say computers don't fail is just plain delusional ignorance. And you absolutely have to have a scanner because you can't just tune it by sound. Or even know what's going on. You really need more, just reading codes only tell you the first part. Where an older engine will tell you the problem, basically just with the problem. It doesn't create a problem where there really aren't any, the ecu just thinks there is.
Yes, and a lot of those are still on the road and running good even though their 45 years old. Computerized sensor controlled cars become obsolete (unrepairable) quickly.
Absolutely not true... and here’s why. Mechanical things literally wear out. Nobody drove anywhere without a spare set of ignition points and a condenser. You needed to do a tune up every 10,000 miles and major engine work every 50,000 miles. Plus, you picked literally two of the worst modern vehicles for electrical problems... Audi which is 1000% more complex than other cars and bottom-of-the-barrel often-bankrupt Chrysler. Both of those make 1980s GM cars look like the epitome of reliability. The last time I had a computer module fail on a vehicle was early 90s GM. After that... nothing.
When i started my mechanic apprentership in 2002 cars where getting towed in everyday. Cars still get towed in now but its much less common. Most drive them into the shop because an engine light has come on. The 90's where a dark time for cars and the EFI systems where terrible, although still better then points and carbys. Cars are much better now. They use much less fuel, are safer and more reliable. The only reason most need to open the hood now is to top up the windscreen washer.
The trend towards fuel efficient vehicles in the late 1970s wasn't unappealing, it was unavailable. People didn't turn away from the Ford Pinto because it was fuel efficient, it wasn't. They turned away from it because it would explode if it was hit from behind due to a design flaw that Ford tried to cover up.
Old technology was still fuel efficient. For example an old Volkswagen 1980 carburated had pretty good fuel economy. It was in is 40's mpg. An old 1983 ford ranger pick up had a 4 cylinder diesel perkins engine. It to got 40 mpg. The technology was there. What happened. People's desire for new made these classic obsolete. And now we have new cars and trucks with sophisticated computer nightmares. Now adays you need technitians to repair new clunkers.
Peoples desire didnt kill fuel efficient vehicles. Diesel is a filthy nasty fuel. Sure older diesels had excellent fuel economy, they also had terrible emissions. The emissions equipment they were required to install killed the fuel efficiency. Now the MPGs are climbing again, but the cost of that equipment and the rarity of diesel means it will never return.
Old cars like that were fuel efficient because they were extremely light, small and underpowered by todays standards. People were ok with very small interiors and the lack of need for safety meant very thin structures too.
@@armandomendoza3167 Those make good train engines. Nobody will ever put them into a passenger vehicle. With rising electric drive trains, combined with diesels relative obscurity in many parts of the world, its days are numbered.
I feel that this is all incredibly impressive and it shows how well we've mastered making these engines, but it also shows why (imo) electric motors are far superior. All of these advancements have been made in order to improve efficiency, resulting in designs that are incredibly complex. This video showcases a lot of that complexity while also just scratching the surface of how internal combustion engines function. And despite all this advancement, internal combustion engines cannot break 40% efficiency, because they are heat engines. Electric motors, on the other hand, are capable of over 90% efficiency in converting electric power in to mechanical energy out while being far simpler. It would seem, at least to me, that it may be better to look to electric systems for greater efficiency and maybe even to consider electrochemical methods of using fuels, like fuel cells or thermionic converters. Thats just me tho lol anyway if you read this far hey hows it goin
I drove my 2003 Toyota Camry from Brunswick Maine to the Jersey shore. I made the trip at night and obeyed the speed limits and used a little over a half tank of gas and got over "FORTY" miles per gallon. A four cyl. engine. I still have the car and it still drives great. The fuel tank holds just over 18 gallons of fuel. The trip was about four hundred miles.
Can you also talk about the downsides of these ever-tightening of emissions output on automobiles? Ie. How most diesel engines require EGR (exhaust gas re-circulation) which in theory sounds good, but causes long-term carbon buildup in the intake manifolds and ports which makes the engine lose power and inefficient. Same goes with Direct Injection in Gasoline engines which does the same thing.
I think the particulates and NOX requiring diesel particulate filters and selective catalytic reduction with ammonia is really what is driving up the cost and complexity of diesels, not exhaust gas recirculation. Also, variable valve timing, variable compression, and direct injection are bringing gasoline engines closer to diesels in terms of efficiency, while already possessing inherently better emissions characteristics.
Did this mention aerodynamics? That is important. New cars are gradually getting more aero. Example: the coefficient of drag on a mk7 VW Golf is 10% lower than the previous mk6 Golf. That makes a big difference. I can get as much as 40mpg when conditions are favorable, and it also has 260hp! (Because of sofware tune...)
@@jeffhooper3447 I don't want to sound super disagreable, but what are you talking about?? Either you live in a country where traveling above 45mph is super illegal, or you are just making stuff up. The point where aero drag exceeds engine and drive train losses is ~45mph. Feel free to verify this independently. I'm not making it up.
and future is electric with ICE (modern 2 stroke opposed piston like achates ~55% thermal eff) as a power generator running at ideal rpm & load, which is ultra efficient durable (simple) and light at the same time
Actually, no. The future are electric cars, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, especially considering the restrictions imposed (which are IMO a bit lax) by most European countries.
Douglas Hamner The range isn’t that bad, though. While it’s still not good for traveling due to charging infrastructure not being there yet (unless you have a Tesla), it’s fantastic for day to day use, which, if you’re like most people, represents the great majority of fuel usage. And electricity is cheaper than an equivalent quantity gasoline or diesel in most of the world, so it’s cheaper to operate.
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@@GRBtutorials not only range but weight. It has to be made from nano material. Unless engine that weights ~200+ lbs is better option, then you doesn't care bout range 60-80 miles is enough.
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@@GRBtutorials EU restrictions are lax ?? :D NOx, SOx and particles are ~ok, but CO2 restrictions are BS - electric cars have higher carbon footprint
Car buyers: 2010 to 2021 car buyers want more fuel efficient cars. Also Car Buyers: Heavy SUV'S with poor aerodynamics become the most popular selling vehicles.
You forgot about in between carburetor and fuel injection. the throttle body injection that came before fuel injection and I was right after carbureted injection
The information about lean and rich mixtures here is not quite right. While it's true that if you are making a rich (less than stoichiometric) mixture more lean, it will increase combustion temperature; but making a lean mixture (greater than stoichiometric) more lean will *reduce* combustion temperature. This is because peak combustion temperature is at stoichiometric ratio. Added: In practice, in order for a stoichometric ratio to be achieved at the point of combustion, usually you need to create a charge that is leaner than stoichiometric in order for it to mix adequately; keep in mind that these ratios only map to combustion temperature if they are the ratio *as mixed*.
@Douglas Hamner It depends on how lean, and how rich. With a lean mixture and a rich mixture at the same combustion temperature, IIRC the NOx production will be higher with the richer mixture.
@Douglas Hamner Mea culpa! I see weird readouts because in my use case we use really aggressive EGR; you're right that leaning out with atmospheric air is likely to produce more NOx (particularly close to stoich, less so as you get even leaner, but still worse than richer mixtures for NOx). Nonetheless, I think you're wrong about the temperatures, but right about the NOx (in the atmospheric air case). I see combustion temperatures drop dramatically as I lean out past effective stoichometric.
@Douglas Hamner Peak combustion temperature and NOx occurs around 16:1 AFR. Any leaner than that and both temperature and NOx production decrease. Around 20:1 NOx emissions are down to what they were with a 12:1 rich mixture.
It's a lot simpler than you think first you have to eliminate some of the excess Parts take out the crankshaft the carburetor Pistons valves valve springs the cylinders and then you get rid of the engine block then you take some magnets and a coil and a couple of wires who you have the most efficient engine possible
at 1:31 there is a small mistake in the Animation. The Piston cant push out all of the burned gases, the volume of the space above the Piston (combustion volume) remains in the cylinder
Cars are getting more fuel efficient by adding incredible complex add on's. Like heat exchangers that combine oil and water, separated by a sub millimeter wall of aluminum. One in the engine, and one in the auto box. These engines are getting so complicated that they are no longer repairable. So what you save in fuel is only a small percentage of the cost when you repair or replaces these throw away engines. Most of these functions are so integrated that you cannot fit another type of engine to a car. Knowledgeable people are now buying older model cars that they can keep repairing and running well into the future. next you will see the government banning these fixable cars.
Knowledgeable people learn how to fix the new engines. That does not mean knowledgeable people don't like older cars, I know plenty of highly intelligent enthusiasts that prefer the older cars, and are willing to pay the extra money in gas to have those cars. Those that choose to have modern cars however, choose to learn how to overcome the challenges of fixing them, rather then refuse to buy them because maintenance is hard.
Douglas Hamner im not a boomer by far but i hate how complex new engines are. with older cars theres less that can really go wrong and the parts last a while. with the new cars it's impossible to try and fix a problem let alone spend money to fix it!! now by law every car has an electric filter for gas fumes! gas fumes!?!?! seriously?!!?!?
《白关》Pakkwun Less that could go wrong, but went wrong more often than any modern engine. Which is why millennials have no idea about the basics of a engine, that have no need to.
Volumetric Efficiency per cylinder may have been included in this explanation, however we do understand that this is merely an introduction to the subject of gasoline engine fuel efficiency.
I have a book around here somewhere that was written by some well-known mechanical engineer. In chapter 10 of this book it talks about alternative fuel systems and he mentions that in the 70's in the U.S. there were 3 different after-market carburetors being sold that claimed fuel mileage as much 60mpg in V8 engines and 90+ in a V6. The one thing they all had in common was that they vaporized the fuel before introduction into the combustion chamber. Shortly after word got out of these carburetors, OPEC introduced several new additives to gasoline (or required refineries to use them, something along those lines, it's been a while since I read it) Every one of these additives, according to the book, gummed up those carburetors. I'm on my way to work so I don't really have the time to find it for reference but I thought I'd mention it because whether any of you think there is a conspiracy to keep us addicted to oil or not, one well respected, top of his field engineer certainly laid out an interesting coincidence that points in that direction.
Meh, I'm seeing a few comments here about this. Vapor carburetors solve a non-existent problem, which is combustion efficiency. Modern cars hit something like 97%. Vapor carbs don't really do any better.
I swapped out my cams in my 2003 F250 Ext. cab 8 foot box 4x4 with the 5.4 SOHC 16 valve. I was getting around 11 mpg before and now I have more power and torque and get 15 mpg. I am not complaining.
Detonation is when the flame propagates faster than the speed of sound. Deflagration is when it propagates slower than the speed of sound. Detonation can happen at atmospheric oxygen levels, but is more likely at higher oxygen levels.
Two huge problems with the internal combustion engine that aren’t mentioned are 1) Not only is the heat energy not being used but power is drained from the engine to destroy the heat and 2) The combustion should take place in a continuous combustion chamber where it is completely burned then the compressed gas sent to the pistons. Then, the hot exhaust could be used for a turbocharger or steam engine and/or converted directly into electricity.
For everyone looking for Part 2, head over to Gear Quest! - th-cam.com/video/G2y6cU5mN9Y/w-d-xo.html
When you think about the fact that BF 109 had fuel injection you start to wonder why did the automotive industry catch up so late
To REALLY increase engine efficiency , the best and most obvious thing is : eliminate the 3 parasitic cycles of the 4 stroke engine (why they are 20% or less efficient) duh....
The difference in mpg from the 70s up until 2019 is mostly due to impotent of Japanese and European cars
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At 5m45sec your Venturi illustration is incorrect, the proper placement of the throttle butterfly is after the Venturi. A butterfly before the Venturi is a choke.
I really like the density of information that is introduced at a speed I can understand.
this sounds like a paid endorsement.
2x
You hit it right on the head.
Not too lean or rich of a mixture I'd say. 🤔🤗
such a succinct way to put it. if you dont mind i am gonna use that for other videos.
It's only a matter of time before Skillshare is all over this channel
I'll gladly take some dollar shave club money too :P
@@NewMind I know you'll be ballin when I see an engineering breakdown of a Casper's mattress.
Rip, but good for him
@@johndowe7003 Yeah but if the content is decent I don't mind them making money
@@chrisjinks5197 yep, others are just money whores this guy is alright.
What manufacturers do now is put more sensors, and fancy mechanical stuff on the engines to make them more fuel efficient. Bad news for people like me who are mechanics. It's getting harder and harder to work on cars yourself unfortunately
oh don't worry
i will still need you to take a look at my 1998 honda hornet
the only electronic thing in there is a transistor for the ignition 😂
everything else is electromechanical
Nah just get the right tools and you're good to go
Just keep loving god and youll find a way. You can always do it until you tell yourself you cant. Good luck.
@@magsteel9891 are you aware on the amount of money needed for those tools??
@@andresrodriguez1447 apparently TH-cam won't let me tell you about some low cost options. I don't know why
The best way to improve fuel economy is to drive downhill only.
Cut it out, yer' killin' me!
@@tommieduhswamy6860 I'm serious man. That's what I do. I never drive uphill, and I get like 300 miles to the gallon.
@@timhallas4275 I hear ya man. I would walk to school everyday...uphill both ways. Hard times.
@@timhallas4275 lmao
@@tommieduhswamy6860: For me, it was downhill both ways. We must have passed each other on that slope.
6:55 ish. You got a sub out of that just because you literally took the time to draw every specific one of the sensors out individually....bringing back all those aggravating moments from my youth. Sharp.
I found that pretty impressive as well
I actually paused to look more closely just to make sure I wasnt imagining the accuracy
Pretty freaking awesome. If I may suggest, mention the achievements of Koenigsegg's variable valve timing achieving a record 55% fuel efficiency
It's alright but Toyota is more realistic
A clear and understandable description of topic taken. I can say with certainty that I am an early subscriber to a big TH-cam channel of future.
Best channel on youtube (can't believe the production quality on your most recent videos especially--they're better than freaking TV shows).
I went to college, got a degree in automotive technology and worked as an apprentice with BMW. And I have to say this is the most comprehensive summary of engine fuel-technology and evolution I've ever seen.👍
Was expecting you to show turbos haha, because thats the new trend small engines with powerful turbos so they dont lack power and are very fuel efficient
They rev higher meaning more fuel is getting pumped in overtime which is less fuel efficient its common sense turbos making an engine more fuel efficient is a myth
@@patrickbateman2869 nah they rev lower as turbo does more work so you dont need to put foot down as much. My turbo kicks in around 2500rpm which is low to say i can rev to 6500rpm. But on some newer cars they kick in even lower.
Twin turbo seems to work pretty efficiently on my F150. If I drive like a sane person, it's fairly fuel efficient. If I stomp on it, she goes like stink, and definitely uses more fuel than usual, but still less than my old F150
@@patrickbateman2869 completely wrong
@@patrickbateman2869 actually turbos use waste exhougasses to make power making them efficient. Since it uses energy that otherwise would be wasted
I just noticed the spark plug at 3:55 is upside down XD
😂😂😂😂😂
That's for Australian cars only ;-)
That only for reverse 😆
@@Galatzo they dont have spark plugs, they have electric motors
Absolutely excellent video. Looking forward to more thanks for all the effort. It really shows 👍
This is by far my favorite channel on youtube. More vids PLEASE!!!
Modern engines ARE amazing. My car has a 2.0 turbodiesel that produces 184 horsepower and it will average 60+ MPG on a long motorway trip. I'm only 46 and remember when I was a kid that you could smell cars as they drove past you down the road. You rarely, if ever, smell that now because fuel metering is so accurate and efficient.
What car are you driving?
@@thinhtranba5352 It's a 2014 Seat Leon FR.
Diesels are great but i dont think gas cars will ever come close to what the diesels can do. I remembermy dad telling me he had an old early 70s 4cyl 5 speed gettig over 40mpg no emmisions just a little old 4 cylinder. Yes emmissions are nessasary now but we were able to get better miles per gallon without them. Even my diesel truck gets better mpg without all the emissions crap on it. Went from 16.7 to 23 after all the mods
Guy that’s not what I would call good I have a 92 v8 falcon that gets over 35mpg when I’m carting my work tools around and it done over 250 000 miles, if I had the engine rebuilt and didn’t have all the weight in the boot all the time my economy would be comparable with yours and my car is a nearly 30 year old car I threw together with leftovers, what is your car worth
That's true, the only time I can smell a car these days is on cold starts. Catalyst is too cold to function plus a rich AFR to compensate for a lack of fuel atomization in a cold engine. That or someone that has had their car tuned.
Thanks a bunch. This clears up a bunch of misconceptions that I couldn't verbalize.
Where is the next video? And please do mention about cylinder deactivation too as well as tumbling and, HCCI (e.g. Mazda Skyactiv-X technology) which manipulates higher compression ratio to increase efficiency.
Madzdas Skyactive X is no HCCI....it is SPCCI, a spark is still needed to induce the rapid burn of the lean mix! Pure HCCI doesn't need a spark plug, it does it simply by compression and some free radicals from EGR (like the small COX engines)
Such clarity! Please upload the next part soon!
No matter how advance fuel efficiency may go,I still got love for Carburetors
Same 🤙
ok booomer
I bought a 1979 Chevy half ton, full time 4WD pickup in 1984. It had the small block 350 and got about 10 mpg. I put lockout hubs, converted the transfer case to part time, dual exhaust, an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold, and a Holley 600 carb on it and increased the mpg to about 14-15. Mind you this was at speeds of 60-65 mph. That combination maybe put 200 hp to the rear wheels. I just did 1500 miles in my 2019 Silverado crew cab with 4WD and the 6.2 engine which puts about 350 hp to the rear wheels. At speeds of 70-85 mph I averaged 21 mpg. The improved efficiency of the new vehicles along with substantially (night and day) increase in power is truly mind blowing to me. I have no doubt I could average 23-25 mpg with the 2019 if I actually drove as slow now as we did back in the 80s when the speed limit was 55.
I have a Nissan Versa that has dinosaur tech (late 90s engine design) and early 2010s software. It makes 42.2 mpg in the highway :v
Considering it costed me almost nothing and has never broken down, I guess I got a good deal
noice
90s is not ancient for cars its not like a pc or phone
Used to be a Nissan master. Good Idea. Simple, only fail Nissan has is the CVT transmission. Any time a Customer receives a Nissan with out a CVT transmission, instead have a Manual Transmission. Dependability has increased Dramatically. CVT design is nice, durability/Longevity is Flawed.
@@JohnDoe-ic8hy wish my manual transmission in my 240sx worked perfectly today but I'm surprised it's held on so long with not too bad of issues.
@@fakedanielsong8954 lol. Who has a 240sx and doesnt beat the car up? I have not seen a 'STOCK' S13 or S14 in years.
Informative video! Lots of info covered in a short duration of time.
What a fantastic video. This is an outstanding job.
Great video keep it up. Waiting for the second part.
A 1983 Volvo 240 which is shaped like a brick and has a 4 speed transmission with overdrive geared for 55mph highway driving still gets about 42mpg highway at 70mph. All my experiences with new cars have gotten about 30mpg highway so in my opinion new cars are useless at creating efficient engines, especially turbocharged 4 cylinder engines.
some gearboxes have really crappy gearing for improved "acceleration"
Really not nessecary for so much rpm on the highway
Stop buying low mpg new cars then lmao
was getting a Factorio vibe with those assembly arms and the music near the end. awesome video! my newest favorite channel
A rich mixture produces more power primarily because of the effect it has on reducing knock and combustion temperature. Though it's true some of the power comes from using up all the available oxygen, it's mainly from the additional ignition timing and (if turbocharged) boost that can be added with an enriched mixture.
That's right, that's exactly what water injection does, it gives you the ability to up your timing and or boost when the water injection is utilized, some people mistakenly think that the alchohol mixed in is what does it but it's primarily in it to keep it from freezing in lower temps, although with proper tuning the alchohol does add a little power it's the increase from being able to jack up the boost and timing from the cooling effect of the water injection that's most of the power increase, I know several guys that are street racers that got sick of messing with the mixture and re-mapped their systems to run water only (fair weather cars) and have told me that by the seat of their pants they can't tell the difference between straight water and the water/alchohol mix.
Engines actually make more power when slightly lean, the reason rich mixtures are run, especially on high performance engines is to control cylinder temperatures. Its always a compromise when tuning an engine between max power and blowing up/melting and engine. There is a tradeoff between running more timing and then running a little rich to drop cylinder temperatures to counter knock potential. But lean with a lot of timing would make more power but would be a ticking time bomb. For background I'm a mechanic that specializes in high performance Subarus, and work alot with building/tuning turbo cars.
Lean makes more power.
Nice work as usual dude. Looking forward to the next video already. Lots of custom animations. I feel like you put in a ton of effort. Probably could even use more stock footage like some other youtubers but I guess it would make it more generic. I'm really excited to see what your 'personal style' develops into :)
Thanks! I’m still exploring what works and what doesn’t. Not gonna lie it gets exhausting sometimes but it’s definitely worth it, especially when I hear supportive words like yours. 👍
@@NewMind
Did the part 2 engine efficiency video ever come out?
The way that the spark plug is shown upside down kinda grinds my gears.
I was gonna say that
Ptsd momento
@@GhostOfDamned dude I wrote that a year ago wow. Respect. Glad that someone read my comment :)
@@petejerry6169 people complain to me most of the times
Why ArE yOu RepLyInG tO 1 yEaR oLd cOmMeNtS
@@GhostOfDamned Im not complaining I'm just surprised.
Where is the 2nd part of the video ? And this video was very nice, thank you
In case you don't live in America. Most cars here are giant SUVs and Pickup trucks that do 8-15mpg. The only car that was capable of 45mpg was VW Golf TDI which resulted in "Emissions Scandal"
Well in Europe, Euro regulation are so strict that stating car are most fuel efficient is laughable compared to us. A standard car (non hybrid) can easily achieve 5l/100 or less depending on age of the car. The problem is how Americans are stuck with the idea of big engines, 75hp for a car here is commun.
@Mido Alaaeldin That has nothing to do with efficiency
Sasha Z There are far more than one type of car that has good mileage here in America.
@Douglas Hamner the mpg ratings are using different gallons in the us and uk, the US uses us gallons and the UK uses imperial gallons which more volume.
Foxycat 21 totally agree, uk fuel is better quality too, my 2008 88bhp Yaris gets 60 mpg, now in 2019 cars still aren’t getting much if anymore mpg, I do have a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 as a weekend car though so I do like a bit of Americana
Wow. Fantastic video and production. Well done
Can’t talk, busy hitting VTEC.
VTEC yo.
VTEC Just kicked in yo!
The best explanation I ever see GREATE JOB
"Working volume" is a bit vague re: displacement, but I'm picking nits here of course. Piston swept volume would be more precise. Good video all the same. Cheers!
1:40 that's iconic Maruti Suzuki 800 😍🤗, I can still see two of those parking outside, from my window....
But the car in the video is a VW Golf MK2 :P
@@TheRobinLiljegren I've never seen a VW Golf, maybe they both look same ....
also over the last 40 years average engine temperatures have increased greatly to increase efficiency.
Compression has gotten better even without lead additives. I do not understand why. Is is all tiny improvements in timing, heat distribution, injection, ... ?
It’s because of the insane control that direct injection gives you.
In WWII... Britain was dependent on 100+ octane fuel from the USA to power the Spitfire which used a carb. They also had to run rich both to keep the temperatures down (due to cooling effect of vapourizing fuel) and to prevent detonation from a poorly mixed charge being too lean in the furthest cylinders from the carb.
Germany was getting the same performance out of 87 octane because they used direct injection. Each cylinder had a specific injector tuned to the airflow it would receive to make an almost perfect mixture... so they could boost the living daylights out of it and not have to worry about detonation.
Even with sequential port fuel injection you can’t get precise enough control.
Today’s cars are almost all direct injection and they use a lean burn... on the other side of peak where you can get detonation. Anti knock sensors will instantly retard the ignition timing if they sense detonation and also if you use regular grade fuel instead of premium if your car is made for it.
@@calvinnickel9995 THX,
I did not know until recently that there were knock sensors on each cylinder.
@@calvinnickel9995 most gas engines have indirect injection. Diesel engines utilize direct injection which helps with fuel efficiency
The cars I drove back in the 80's got better fuel economy that the current crop of techno nightmares.
I know that you are right because I did the same thing.
*laughs nervously in constantly floored 88 f150 getting like 7mpg*
Yeah, that's nothing. 01 chevy 6.0 that gets 10 going easy on it. I just thought my fords were thirsty til I met this junk. And it gets like 1/3 of that now, since apparently the intake gasket or intake itself cracked a couple weeks ago when I drove through a rather large puddle. Even my carbed 390 with no overdrive blew this thing away. With power and efficiency.
Fascinating, well done!
Its mental how inefficient cars still are in the USA.
Lol stay in your euro train world and leave American cars alone. We have something called choice. I know it’s hard for you to wrap your head around such things. People that want efficient cars get them. Those that don’t, don’t. We have just as efficient cars as whatever country you’re trying to compare us to. But because our governments don’t tax the hell out of fuel, and steal our money for trains, we can actually choose to have a less efficient car.
j p and that’s a good thing?
@@thomas_nl_ yeah, the logic is mind boggling but sadly all too common. as everyone already knows - 5% of the world's population but use 20% of the world's resources. bsically, parasites.
@@thomas_nl_ It isn't? Not having an authority cuckolding your choice of car by stealing your money is bad?
@@fokjohnpainkiller Chris Fokjohn Well I don't like paying taxes either, but:
1. It's better for the environment
2. It's not stealing; the money is used for other things like infrastructure, we have our railsystem, roads and social system are way better than whatever they have in the US.
3. SUVs suck
Most of the innovations in the auto industry from the late seventies until now have been designed by one freelance designer.
Now that I have retired, I have designed an anti-knock device in my free time. It is one of my greatest achievements along with my Skyactiv designs. I will be keeping this one for myself! Running 38 degrees BTDC is not A problem with the device.
Follow the roadmap...
VTEC, Vortec, Voltec, Duratec, Ecotec and Ecoboost are just A few of my other designs.
I really think they should take advantage of the heat generated by an engine instead of just wasting in in a radiator.
That's how your car heater usually works, and one of the reasons why EV's are less efficient in winter. Otherwise, there's no real efficient/effective way of putting a heat based engine to generate power in your car because it would make the car too heavy/bulky. Also, it's generally inefficient to just radiate away heat, but it is necessary in this case or the coolant will become too hot, so it needs to be cooled down faster, which makes it even less efficient
Is it that impossible?
Then how did Leonard Dyer make one in 1915? And Bruce Crower do it again in 2006?
@@MrManerd I didn't say it's impossible. I was merely saying that it's not worth it.
And that is where you are wrong. 40% better gas mileage is worth it. If you're saying the design would be to difficult to make in order to be worth it, then you clearly did not even google either of the two names I gave you.
@@MrManerd bruh I'm saying it's not worth it for car manufacturers
Great explanation of the earliest major developments in fuel economy. I believe you got one interesting fact a little wrong though: Emission regulated engines actually aren't targeting stoichiometric ratios. Instead they are targeting slightly richer (more fuel) ratios that will make the catalytic converters work a lot better. They actually cycle between moments of rich mixtures and near stoichiometric ones so that the catalytic converters can store some oxygen for their chemical reactions.
niice channel, got here before the massive growth
cool
I knew a retired engineer. In 1992 He had the blueprints to a "Carburetor"
He used the term
" Carburetor" so that I would understand what he was talking about because I was nothing more than a mechanic and a woodworker. This "Carburetor" got 75 miles to the gallon with the big V8 engines. I said what? Why the hell are we using it?
He told me the oil companies bought the rights to it & all he had left of it was the blueprints. He had 3 pages of super intricate blueprints. The only reason I got to see the blueprints was because, I told him I was learning how to read blueprints as a cabinet maker. That's when he said " would you like to see some blueprints?" I waited for him come out with the blueprints that took about 10 or 15 minutes because this gentleman was extremely eccentric! He owned a auto parts store & kept it stocked like a hoarder would. There was a 2-foot path that led to the desk but no one dare entered the building. You went to his door and a hollered. He came to the door and you told him what you needed then somehow, he would dig through that stuff and he knew exactly where everything was it only took them 10 or 15 minutes to find it. He had all the rare parts for the older cars. Parts that all the other auto parts stores did not have. He rode around in an old 60s Dodge car that had a 383 Hemi in it & he was proud of that engine! He also had three 426 Hemi engines that were new in the crates. Try pricing those on eBay someday. They're not your typical Hemi Motors!
He drove his car around Stack to Brooke sealing full of car parts and who-knows-what but the car was always squatting and you could not see in the back seat.
This guy was the real deal.
One day he disappeared. A bulldozer came where the hell racquetball knocked his two story building to the ground and bulldozed it. All his Auto Parts along with his blueprints we're home. Off to the dump. They tore his house down. Five years later I seen him what's a lady going in a doctor's office. He had that had a stroke and his surviving son was the person responsible for destroying everything this man owned.
The technology is out there but the oil companies or the government will make it go away!
Ronnie Pirtle Jr interesting. I don’t want to know how much humanity is being held back just because of some greedy bastards withholding patents. But then again, ICE vehicles are dead meat anyway, so why bother?!
In the Uk a 1.9tdi can do 50+ mpg
Different units. 50 mpg(Imperial) = 42 mpg(US). And Diesels have awful NOx and particulate emissions that are ridiculously bad for human health. Diesel cars are dying, sales are massively down year on year and I say good riddance.
@@xeigen2
It's really unfortunate though. Diesel offers vastly better thermal efficiency and part load efficiency, though variable compression, variable valve timing, and direct injection are bringing gasoline engines closer to turbodiesels in terms of efficiency, while having inherently better emissions characteristics.
The engine you showed being built is a GDI, (Gasoline Direct Injection) engine. Which works slightly differently. Mostly in that it does what it sounds like and directly injects the fuel into the combustion chamber. It does this at much higher pressure than standard fuel injection, and allows running an ultra lean burn for greater efficiency.
Glad I found your channel and looking forward to more. Suggestion: don't run animations unless you are directly talking about them. This was especially distracting at 6:43, and could simply be changed by pausing the piston animation.
Nice and informative video
You know cars from the 50s could have got 50 miles to the gallon right all they had to do was add a heated carburetor that made it suck in more fuel Vapor than actual fuel liquid
@Randy Wiesendanger It is.
My 1950's Austin A30 got 50MPG (850cc, four gears, manual). There is a TH-cam video of a test drive on the road where this is demonstrated driving on average roads of that era.
OTOH, my 1950's Ford 105E (1200cc, side valve, 3 completely useless gears, manual) got 22 MPG, while my 2010 Ford Fusion (1400cc, 4-speed auto box) also got 22MPG.
My 2010 Nissan X-Trail, and my 2013 Peugeot (both 1600cc turbo Diesel with intercooler) get 50MPG (with aircon off). Nissan got over 25MPG towing a caravan (Average over about 7,000 miles).
Here (Europe), inlet and exhaust manifolds are normally bolted together to preheat the fuel/air mix. I am pretty sure they were doing that before WW2.
Progress? Only in the level of dishonesty involved in reporting advances in fuel efficiency. Americans appear unable to design/build reasonably efficient car engines.
(All car models and gallons are UK, but I have driven French, Italian and German cars, and the fuel efficiency was similar, although the performance and reliability was definitely not).
am super glad that the TH-cam algo finally recommended something good!
The main causes of efficiency improvement was from electronic fuel injection, and high compression ratios. That was 90% of it the rest is from gasoline direct injection or computer tuning. However the most efficient engine is opposed piston.
Great video!
I remember the highly efficient Datsun 180U of the seventies. And the Opels of the eighties. I wonder if you dare to compare fuel consumption according to car weight.
And emissions. More NOx, more MPG
No safety features, either. Today’s cars weigh almost as much as 1970s cars because of the safety features required.
i love your channel. congrats on an excellent job.
My 1989 Prelude used to get 43mpg on the highway regularly. I don't see how they haven't improved on that
2017 camry can get 38mpg at 75-80 with ac, 48 hypermiling
You are most likely not a typical driver (i.e. using your brain). The context that matters is how most people drive (no brain).
Yeah, and how much did it weigh and how much power did it have and what features and safety mechanisms did it have... stupid comparison. Today you’re getting MUCH MORE out of those 43mpg.
I find it fascinating how people got engaged in the content of the video, so much so nobody mentioned the fact that the sparkplug was put upside down in the engine at 1:13
I got normaly with ac on and 3 people in car 47mpg Mitsubishi lancer ex 1.6l 4 cylinder non turbo engine 2015 117 hp manual 5 gear transmision
It's always mystified me the huge engines yet low power of the average US engine.
Engines from the eu and Japan are around 1.6-2.0 litres.
Nicely produced and interesting content.. without annoying buffoonery and begging for likes. Sub'd and liked for both reasons.
You missed the deceleration phase (deliberately?) where carburettors fail too and EFI is so much more efficient. When the throttle is closed at speed the sudden increase in manifold vacuum draws additional fuel into the intake, which although burnt as part of the combustion process serves no useful purpose.
EFI has the ability to disable the injectors completely above a certain engine speed (often around 1500-1800rpm for a 4 cylinder engine) with the throttle closed, and thereby using no fuel at all. This is an argument I often use against people who insist that 'coasting' (eg depressing the clutch and letting the engine idle during deceleration) is more economical.
My car on decline only disable injectors if i don't press the pedal. il i don't press the trotle, consumption fall to zero but motor brake. If i press the clutch and don't press gas pedal consumption falls to zero and no motor brake. It's a recent suzuki. An improvement on fuel economy will be to automaticaly press the clutch to desactivate all the motor on decline (no motor brake). On shell chalenge with 1 liter they make 3500 km but they drive quite time on free wheeling.
very good. Been wondering about this for a while
the 1978 Honda Civic got 40mpg with a carbuator. Put FI on that and it should get 50mpg.
I read about someone who claimed to get ~130 mpg in a Honda N600 by driving it carefully, and never going above 30-40 mph.
Carb gets the same as injections
@@Owiko7 Makes sense, since the N600 has only a 600cc engine.
My friend has the CVCC, it has a motorcycle engine!
The Insight hybrid goes over 70mpg on highways too, three cylinder, aluminum body.
Good quality content..precise and to the point
Should have told us up front that this video only covered 20 year old technology, and added a link to the next vid..
I was about to say.. felt like I was watching a video from the 80s.
Right? I guess it's the target audience though. It was a good introduction to internal combustion engines. Now everyone can go over to Engineering Explained and start to understand turbos, variable cam timing, hybridisation and compensation for super high compression ratios.
Wonderful visuals, amazingly informative. This and the flatness video have earned you another subscriber. Suscribed
Wow, ICEs have come so far. I remember when we used carborators, a mechanical distributor, points, rotors.. Now, it's just a 'setting'.. Lol
Absolutely not true.
Absolutely true... Just saying something isn't t true, doesn't make it true. Mechanical is damn near always more reliable, and when it isn't you can fix it with a hammer. Not literally, so shut up. And I don't mean an old wore out mechanical engine vs a brand new zero mile electronic. More parts, means more chances for things to break, especially sensors that are adversely affected by the elements and just the engine running itself. I have a perfect example in my driveway. If it were carbureted, there wouldn't really be a problem. 99% of people wouldn't even notice it. But since it's efi, and a particularly poor design, the slightly cracked intake gasket tells the computer to make it run like complete crap. Not that efi is bad, I like it. But only properly designed systems, that don't require tons of maintenance or that I drive like a granny. But manufacturers are going off the deep end, and really not giving you what you pay for. My 76 390 Ford would run like a bat out of hell, and got better mileage than the 01 chevy 6.0 I spoke of earlier. And was MUCH more reliable. I've been easy on this thing, and it still sucks down fuel and breaks all the time. So, newer doesn't mean better, old doesn't mean obsolete. If you use modern manufacturing techniques, applied to simpler, proven designs, you get better reliability. Look at mechanical diesels, they run forever. I have a '68 Ford 3000 tractor my grandpa bought new, that is still running great with nothing more than basic maintenance. And his john deere that was bought around 02 has been nothing but trouble. One of the first parts to go out on any vehicle is the electric fuel pump. If it's all mechanical, it starts out with an advantage. To say computers don't fail is just plain delusional ignorance. And you absolutely have to have a scanner because you can't just tune it by sound. Or even know what's going on. You really need more, just reading codes only tell you the first part. Where an older engine will tell you the problem, basically just with the problem. It doesn't create a problem where there really aren't any, the ecu just thinks there is.
Yes, and a lot of those are still on the road and running good even though their 45 years old. Computerized sensor controlled cars become obsolete (unrepairable) quickly.
Absolutely not true... and here’s why.
Mechanical things literally wear out. Nobody drove anywhere without a spare set of ignition points and a condenser. You needed to do a tune up every 10,000 miles and major engine work every 50,000 miles.
Plus, you picked literally two of the worst modern vehicles for electrical problems... Audi which is 1000% more complex than other cars and bottom-of-the-barrel often-bankrupt Chrysler. Both of those make 1980s GM cars look like the epitome of reliability.
The last time I had a computer module fail on a vehicle was early 90s GM. After that... nothing.
When i started my mechanic apprentership in 2002 cars where getting towed in everyday. Cars still get towed in now but its much less common. Most drive them into the shop because an engine light has come on.
The 90's where a dark time for cars and the EFI systems where terrible, although still better then points and carbys.
Cars are much better now. They use much less fuel, are safer and more reliable. The only reason most need to open the hood now is to top up the windscreen washer.
The trend towards fuel efficient vehicles in the late 1970s wasn't unappealing, it was unavailable. People didn't turn away from the Ford Pinto because it was fuel efficient, it wasn't. They turned away from it because it would explode if it was hit from behind due to a design flaw that Ford tried to cover up.
The build quality of the big 3 was garbage. Japan kicked their buts because of that.
Old technology was still fuel efficient. For example an old Volkswagen 1980 carburated had pretty good fuel economy. It was in is 40's mpg. An old 1983 ford ranger pick up had a 4 cylinder diesel perkins engine. It to got 40 mpg. The technology was there. What happened. People's desire for new made these classic obsolete. And now we have new cars and trucks with sophisticated computer nightmares. Now adays you need technitians to repair new clunkers.
Peoples desire didnt kill fuel efficient vehicles. Diesel is a filthy nasty fuel. Sure older diesels had excellent fuel economy, they also had terrible emissions.
The emissions equipment they were required to install killed the fuel efficiency. Now the MPGs are climbing again, but the cost of that equipment and the rarity of diesel means it will never return.
Old cars like that were fuel efficient because they were extremely light, small and underpowered by todays standards. People were ok with very small interiors and the lack of need for safety meant very thin structures too.
@@Bob_Lob_Law Look at a 2 stroke diesel opposed piston. Use ultra low sulfur diesel with a regen system and it will be good.
@@armandomendoza3167 Those make good train engines. Nobody will ever put them into a passenger vehicle.
With rising electric drive trains, combined with diesels relative obscurity in many parts of the world, its days are numbered.
@@Bob_Lob_Law Ford already did
What a great video!
I feel that this is all incredibly impressive and it shows how well we've mastered making these engines, but it also shows why (imo) electric motors are far superior. All of these advancements have been made in order to improve efficiency, resulting in designs that are incredibly complex. This video showcases a lot of that complexity while also just scratching the surface of how internal combustion engines function. And despite all this advancement, internal combustion engines cannot break 40% efficiency, because they are heat engines. Electric motors, on the other hand, are capable of over 90% efficiency in converting electric power in to mechanical energy out while being far simpler. It would seem, at least to me, that it may be better to look to electric systems for greater efficiency and maybe even to consider electrochemical methods of using fuels, like fuel cells or thermionic converters.
Thats just me tho lol anyway if you read this far hey hows it goin
good, what about you?
I know this is an old comment, but there are newer engines that are over 50 percent efficient.
I drove my 2003 Toyota Camry from Brunswick Maine to the Jersey shore. I made the trip at night and obeyed the speed limits and used a little over a half tank of gas and got over "FORTY" miles per gallon. A four cyl. engine. I still have the car and it still drives great. The fuel tank holds just over 18 gallons of fuel. The trip was about four hundred miles.
Can you also talk about the downsides of these ever-tightening of emissions output on automobiles? Ie. How most diesel engines require EGR (exhaust gas re-circulation) which in theory sounds good, but causes long-term carbon buildup in the intake manifolds and ports which makes the engine lose power and inefficient. Same goes with Direct Injection in Gasoline engines which does the same thing.
Having healthy lungs is such a downside to the emissions regulations.
Douglas Hamner
It becomes a problem in densely populated cities. Not so much of of town.
Air quality in London is outside EU limits.
I think the particulates and NOX requiring diesel particulate filters and selective catalytic reduction with ammonia is really what is driving up the cost and complexity of diesels, not exhaust gas recirculation. Also, variable valve timing, variable compression, and direct injection are bringing gasoline engines closer to diesels in terms of efficiency, while already possessing inherently better emissions characteristics.
Very clear explanations. Thank you!
Did this mention aerodynamics? That is important. New cars are gradually getting more aero. Example: the coefficient of drag on a mk7 VW Golf is 10% lower than the previous mk6 Golf. That makes a big difference. I can get as much as 40mpg when conditions are favorable, and it also has 260hp! (Because of sofware tune...)
Drag only makes a big difference at speeds that are not legal on public roadways.
@@jeffhooper3447 I don't want to sound super disagreable, but what are you talking about?? Either you live in a country where traveling above 45mph is super illegal, or you are just making stuff up. The point where aero drag exceeds engine and drive train losses is ~45mph. Feel free to verify this independently. I'm not making it up.
Great video
and future is electric with ICE (modern 2 stroke opposed piston like achates ~55% thermal eff) as a power generator running at ideal rpm & load, which is ultra efficient durable (simple) and light at the same time
Actually, no. The future are electric cars, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, especially considering the restrictions imposed (which are IMO a bit lax) by most European countries.
Douglas Hamner The range isn’t that bad, though. While it’s still not good for traveling due to charging infrastructure not being there yet (unless you have a Tesla), it’s fantastic for day to day use, which, if you’re like most people, represents the great majority of fuel usage. And electricity is cheaper than an equivalent quantity gasoline or diesel in most of the world, so it’s cheaper to operate.
@@GRBtutorials not only range but weight. It has to be made from nano material. Unless engine that weights ~200+ lbs is better option, then you doesn't care bout range 60-80 miles is enough.
@@GRBtutorials EU restrictions are lax ?? :D NOx, SOx and particles are ~ok, but CO2 restrictions are BS - electric cars have higher carbon footprint
Wrightspeed plug in hybrids where all electric isn't enough and that's not often.
Car buyers: 2010 to 2021 car buyers want more fuel efficient cars.
Also Car Buyers: Heavy SUV'S with poor aerodynamics become the most popular selling vehicles.
You forgot about in between carburetor and fuel injection. the throttle body injection that came before fuel injection and I was right after carbureted injection
What a great channel!
Fuel injection...better oils/ fuels...lighter engine components...aero dynamics...lighter cars..computer controlled trans..better engine design's. List goes on.
And turbo
Fantastic video
Still waiting for the part 2
Did part 2 ever come out?
Dude... how do you know so much. This is a fantastic channel.
He researches subjects to make educational videos obviously. Still takes a lot of knowledge and work to do properly.
The information about lean and rich mixtures here is not quite right. While it's true that if you are making a rich (less than stoichiometric) mixture more lean, it will increase combustion temperature; but making a lean mixture (greater than stoichiometric) more lean will *reduce* combustion temperature. This is because peak combustion temperature is at stoichiometric ratio.
Added: In practice, in order for a stoichometric ratio to be achieved at the point of combustion, usually you need to create a charge that is leaner than stoichiometric in order for it to mix adequately; keep in mind that these ratios only map to combustion temperature if they are the ratio *as mixed*.
Wrong.
@Douglas Hamner It depends on how lean, and how rich. With a lean mixture and a rich mixture at the same combustion temperature, IIRC the NOx production will be higher with the richer mixture.
@@randypullman1155 Enlighten us.
@Douglas Hamner Mea culpa! I see weird readouts because in my use case we use really aggressive EGR; you're right that leaning out with atmospheric air is likely to produce more NOx (particularly close to stoich, less so as you get even leaner, but still worse than richer mixtures for NOx).
Nonetheless, I think you're wrong about the temperatures, but right about the NOx (in the atmospheric air case). I see combustion temperatures drop dramatically as I lean out past effective stoichometric.
@Douglas Hamner Peak combustion temperature and NOx occurs around 16:1 AFR. Any leaner than that and both temperature and NOx production decrease. Around 20:1 NOx emissions are down to what they were with a 12:1 rich mixture.
Your numbers ignore current DIESEL engines.
It's a lot simpler than you think first you have to eliminate some of the excess Parts take out the crankshaft the carburetor Pistons valves valve springs the cylinders and then you get rid of the engine block then you take some magnets and a coil and a couple of wires who you have the most efficient engine possible
I see what you did there
at 1:31 there is a small mistake in the Animation. The Piston cant push out all of the burned gases, the volume of the space above the Piston (combustion volume) remains in the cylinder
I am enjoying your videos, however, I have been enchanted by the background music of this video, can you share the artist and title?
Where's the follow up video for this?
Cars are getting more fuel efficient by adding incredible complex add on's. Like heat exchangers that combine oil and water, separated by a sub millimeter wall of aluminum. One in the engine, and one in the auto box. These engines are getting so complicated that they are no longer repairable. So what you save in fuel is only a small percentage of the cost when you repair or replaces these throw away engines. Most of these functions are so integrated that you cannot fit another type of engine to a car. Knowledgeable people are now buying older model cars that they can keep repairing and running well into the future. next you will see the government banning these fixable cars.
Knowledgeable people learn how to fix the new engines.
That does not mean knowledgeable people don't like older cars, I know plenty of highly intelligent enthusiasts that prefer the older cars, and are willing to pay the extra money in gas to have those cars.
Those that choose to have modern cars however, choose to learn how to overcome the challenges of fixing them, rather then refuse to buy them because maintenance is hard.
Douglas Hamner im not a boomer by far but i hate how complex new engines are. with older cars theres less that can really go wrong and the parts last a while. with the new cars it's impossible to try and fix a problem let alone spend money to fix it!! now by law every car has an electric filter for gas fumes! gas fumes!?!?! seriously?!!?!?
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Less that could go wrong, but went wrong more often than any modern engine.
Which is why millennials have no idea about the basics of a engine, that have no need to.
Stable lean mixtures can be achived with prechamber ignition or latest plasma ignition.
More efficient engines and more expensive fuel. Looks like a good deal to me.
Volumetric Efficiency per cylinder may have been included in this explanation, however we do understand that this is merely an introduction to the subject of gasoline engine fuel efficiency.
this half of your "How engines are becoming more fuel efficient" is old news. I was expecting much more up to date info!
I have a book around here somewhere that was written by some well-known mechanical engineer. In chapter 10 of this book it talks about alternative fuel systems and he mentions that in the 70's in the U.S. there were 3 different after-market carburetors being sold that claimed fuel mileage as much 60mpg in V8 engines and 90+ in a V6. The one thing they all had in common was that they vaporized the fuel before introduction into the combustion chamber. Shortly after word got out of these carburetors, OPEC introduced several new additives to gasoline (or required refineries to use them, something along those lines, it's been a while since I read it) Every one of these additives, according to the book, gummed up those carburetors.
I'm on my way to work so I don't really have the time to find it for reference but I thought I'd mention it because whether any of you think there is a conspiracy to keep us addicted to oil or not, one well respected, top of his field engineer certainly laid out an interesting coincidence that points in that direction.
Meh, I'm seeing a few comments here about this. Vapor carburetors solve a non-existent problem, which is combustion efficiency. Modern cars hit something like 97%. Vapor carbs don't really do any better.
Can't hear with the background music competing against the voice.
I swapped out my cams in my 2003 F250 Ext. cab 8 foot box 4x4 with the 5.4 SOHC 16 valve. I was getting around 11 mpg before and now I have more power and torque and get 15 mpg. I am not complaining.
@Randy Wiesendanger I just weighed my truck and it comes in at around 8400 lb. I wonder what the 1/4 ton truck issues were?
it's called "knocking", not "detonation". side-note: detonation only occurs with pure oxygen. using air, it's called deflargation.
Detonation is when the flame propagates faster than the speed of sound. Deflagration is when it propagates slower than the speed of sound. Detonation can happen at atmospheric oxygen levels, but is more likely at higher oxygen levels.
Two huge problems with the internal combustion engine that aren’t mentioned are 1) Not only is the heat energy not being used but power is drained from the engine to destroy the heat and 2) The combustion should take place in a continuous combustion chamber where it is completely burned then the compressed gas sent to the pistons. Then, the hot exhaust could be used for a turbocharger or steam engine and/or converted directly into electricity.