How The Most Hated Auto Part Changed The World

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  • @NewMind
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      @rajashashankgutta4334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @zh9664 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *The catalytic converter is a way to bring the entire cost of pollution onto the shoulders of the middle class, and even the impoverished.*
      It makes it so we do our part, but pay DEARLY for it, while other businesses do nothing.
      Even the DNC ignores pollution from huge companies, because those companies give them money via superpac's for their next election.. so they don't want to piss them off.
      We pay DEARLY for this, while the LARGEST polluters pay almost-NOTHING.
      *Leading to the obvious question: why should the middle and lower classes pay for EVERYTHING regarding pollution, while the companies that make BILLIONS do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Or at pretty close to nothing?*
      It's time to stop believing what you are told, and starting to do your own research instead.. *Because the truth is something neither party wants you to know.*

    • @thesilentone4024
      @thesilentone4024 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say lead is rong but small engine planes use lead like at 2.2 grams for every gallon where in 1970s was like 0.5 or 1.1 grams for every gallon.
      Can you talk about thirsty cement and how it can save millions to billions of tons of sand every year and how it can recharge groundwater levels reduce flooding too.

  • @bohdanked
    @bohdanked ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Finally after many years now I understand why Air-Fuel ratio oscillates. I was always perplexed why with todays electronics they don't try to run air fuel ratio as close to perfect as possible.

    • @FilipAus
      @FilipAus ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah same. I always thought it was the system hunting due to delays in the ecu and sensors. Now I know better!

    • @northernpatriot9078
      @northernpatriot9078 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they do it is pulse width modulated off of O2 signal and other inputs its pretty efficient

    • @northernpatriot9078
      @northernpatriot9078 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      on older systems it was called lambda

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@northernpatriot9078 It's still lambda, the symbol for air-fuel ratio.

    • @Capitanvolume
      @Capitanvolume ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knock is also prevented with a richer mixture so engines often run rich under heavy load

  • @wtice4632
    @wtice4632 ปีที่แล้ว +789

    This isnt the most hated auto part. Diesel exhaust fluid systems are the most hated part.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Yes, cats are fine nowadays (besides people stealing them). I supercharged my car and left the factory cat in there, no need to remove it and have a smelly car.
      Diesel particulate filters on the other hand, those have caused headache with non stop issues, and bank breaking damage to a person with some of these trucks having almost $10k exhaust systems. (Regular trucks for pulling a trailer, not an 18 wheeler). That is insane.

    • @marvintpandroid2213
      @marvintpandroid2213 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@volvo09 10K you say? source?

    • @RainOnThursday
      @RainOnThursday ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@marvintpandroid2213 yeah 10k is a little steep. I paid $2700 for dpf replacement and labor and I think an scr is only around a grand on top of that. Mostly what I find annoying about the whole thing is the manufacturer warranty only coving up to 50k miles and mine went out at 58k. Up to 10 yr 150k mile replacements would be more palatable to individuals who would rather delete and pay similar money to skirt the law in search of reliability. While I don’t feel the need for more power I also don’t relish another $3000 and downtime for repairs looming at some point in the future. I’ll probably trade in for a gas engine in the next few years solely because of that

    • @Hath.0
      @Hath.0 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@volvo09 You supercharged your car before upgrading the exhaust system, AND think DPF on consumer diesel trucks cost 10k? Whew, Buddy do i have a deal for you 😏

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Hath.0 "...AND think DPF on consumer diesel trucks cost 10k"
      He said the whole exhaust system and that's probably not too far off when you consider the entire system and the complete SCR system, which is an entire electronic injection system by itself. Heck, with all of the piping, sensors, the SCR catalyst, the SCR injection system, the DPF and the DOC, I wouldn't be surprised if that were conservative.

  • @johncochran8497
    @johncochran8497 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    Little known fact. The very name of the catalytic converter came from ignorance and fear.
    In a nutshell, it's a reactor that uses a catalyst to perform the chemical reactions to make the exhaust safer. So a reasonable name for the device is "catalytic reactor". But that word "reactor" caused too many people to think of "nuclear reactor" and the connotations of that, along with too many ignorant people thinking that the "catalytic reactor" would mean that it's radioactive. And that mistaken belief would cause the acceptance of the device problematic. So a different name was required. And since the device "converts" harmful emissions to safer emissions, the name selected was "catalytic converter."

    • @bohdanked
      @bohdanked ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Similar to "microwave oven" instead of "electromagnetic radiation oven"

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@bohdanked except, the electromagnetic radiation is an oven IS microwaves.
      A traditional oven isnt an infra red radiation oven either.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      reactor has been nailed to only nuclear ones
      everything else should be renamed

    • @zlac
      @zlac ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most of the world call this part "Catalyst".
      You had to add the extra word in USA, but you also call glasses "the eyeglasses", wheel is "the steering wheel" and many more.

    • @johncochran8497
      @johncochran8497 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zlac Oh, so what's that thing you fill with fluids such as water, milk, etc. that you drink from? And if you have several of them? As for "steering wheel", what's those things (usually 4) placed near the corners of a vehicle called?

  • @freedomandguns3231
    @freedomandguns3231 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is not the most hated part. People LOVE catalytic converters. Havent you heard about the massive spike in cat converter theft?

  • @280zjammer
    @280zjammer ปีที่แล้ว +57

    It wasn't the catalytic converter that was hated, it was the EGR valve. You might still argue that it's not something good even though the reliability issues caused by the EGR valve have been mostly fixed. The catalytic converter made cars stop stinking and deserves most of the credit for cleaner emissions from gasoline vehicles. In conjunction with fuel injection using O2 sensors, catalytic converters make the busy city much more bearable without really reducing power by anything significant. EGR valves, on the other hand, do things in the laboratory that don't reflect real operating conditions and at the end of the day, they do reduce power and efficiency while reducing engine life. I like road vehicles having catalytic converters but get rid of EGR valves already.

    • @madcat4563
      @madcat4563 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was always against removing EGRs or blanking them. After enough digging, I found out long term they are a bad thing for a diesel car, especially if it has a turbo and intercooler.
      It clogs up the intercooler, throttlebody, and intake manifold.
      I always thought a catch can would solve the problem, but after digging, I found it made it even worse.

    • @patrickradcliffe3837
      @patrickradcliffe3837 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would also say smog pumps are in the same category.

    • @Kj16V
      @Kj16V 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@madcat4563 What did you read about catch cans?

  • @SmokeElectronics
    @SmokeElectronics ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember the smell of the trailer park I lived in in the early 90s growing up. Not smelling car exhaust is definitely worth every cat on the road. EGR is what kills engine life especially diesels

  • @jaromirandel543
    @jaromirandel543 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    No. The most hated is EGR, Stop-Start and "smart charging - recharging by high above gasification voltage". Those 3 things made car's lifespan much shorter than everything.

    • @kittyNya38
      @kittyNya38 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That’s why I purchased a module to disable the auto start-stop feature of my car.

    • @eggnogmonkey
      @eggnogmonkey ปีที่แล้ว +18

      How does stop start reduce vehicle life? Vehicles equipped with it are either a hybrid and using the motor generator to start which is more than capable of the job or a normal ICE with a beefed up starter motor that can sustain repeated starts.

    • @jaromirandel543
      @jaromirandel543 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@eggnogmonkey First of all, your engine is stopped when the turbo is very hot and still rotates. That means no lubrication while it still rotates. It can take up to one minute until the turbo fully stops. Second, the accumulator is much more often under high load. The diesel particulate filter (which is mandatory also for benzine cars in EU) don't like the stop-start system.

    • @jaromirandel543
      @jaromirandel543 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@eggnogmonkey Also I don't like the "button" engine start. It mostly requires to press and hold the clutch pedal. That causes relatively high crankshaft bearing wear due to no oil pressure. The clutch mechanism makes pressure on crankshaft which creates high metal-metal friction at the non-lubed engine start.

    • @Hath.0
      @Hath.0 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      True. I hate the start-stop systems, alot of unnecessary wear on critical components. But they are made to be a maintenance item now so manufacturers can profit on high value or rather high price items. Alot of the newer vehicles don't even want the owners to do maintenance on them. Most need specialty tools or proprietary fastners. Not much is made to last anymore.

  • @KenanTurkiye
    @KenanTurkiye ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I wished they would invent a catalytic converter for the media too.

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland ปีที่แล้ว

      We're the news now, only boomers and retards believe the mainstream media these days.

    • @bryanjk
      @bryanjk ปีที่แล้ว

      y u so racist

    • @robtownsend150
      @robtownsend150 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a tough call, in my country Def (gov juice) is probably more hated.

    • @lorennicholls5901
      @lorennicholls5901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They might overheat!!

    • @KenanTurkiye
      @KenanTurkiye ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lorennicholls5901 lol good point.

  • @theo_korner
    @theo_korner ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Most people dont hate having a cat, but getting it stolen

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      I don't like it when they hiss at me and scratch me either

    • @techman2553
      @techman2553 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      There's nothing worse than cat burglars.

    • @catsaregovernmentspies
      @catsaregovernmentspies ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or having your cat snitch that you didn't pay your taxes

    • @severalwolves
      @severalwolves ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@catsaregovernmentspies this is dangerous misinformation, you’re clearly just a shill for the Big Dog industry & their lobbyists

    • @mikehunntt5338
      @mikehunntt5338 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      or having it rob 200hp from your 1200 hp streetcar

  • @branpod
    @branpod ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At scale, I think most people appreciate the benefits of them. Most just get annoyed at having them stolen or having to pay a ton to have an inessential part replaced (in states that require them).

  • @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ
    @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ ปีที่แล้ว +56

    As a tuner (megasquirt etc) that had many turbo cars, I ALWAYS loved cat converters. I dont care losing some power to it. Start a tuned car without one in a underground parking and you'll know why I love them.

    • @stevey500
      @stevey500 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I bought a truck that had hollowed catalytic converters and it was an awful experience starting that truck on a cold morning in a parking garage or any other partially enclosed space and it was just a 4L v6. I can't imagine the awful emissions from larger engines with chopped emissions systems. A agree that a properly dialed in emissions system is something to be highly thankful for.

    • @rickrutledge9363
      @rickrutledge9363 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They're heavy, they get too hot, and they cause back pressure. They suck.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeahhh I ran catless bc POWA (marginal since I’m NA lmao) and it was awful at long stoplights, not to mention loud as shit lol
      Welded some new ones in my down pipes and all is well

    • @PURENT
      @PURENT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The stank of a cold start except all the time.

  • @hondaguy9153
    @hondaguy9153 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hate how many people bitch about emissions controls because they vastly reduce emissions and hardly impact performance until you're trying to double or triple the output of the engine and if you're doing that you shouldn't be driving it on the road. The engines that have issues with EGR and DEF I get are frustrating but that's due to shitty designs, not the existence of that emissions control.

  • @mrflamewars
    @mrflamewars ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The downstream (post cat) oxygen sensor isn't just checking the level of oxygen in the exhaust - it's used to check that the oscillation between rich and lean is not visible behind the cat as the cat processes everything. Anyone who wants to watch their car working should get an ELM327 device and read the OBD2 Live Data with it.

    • @seymoarsalvage
      @seymoarsalvage ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just converted my truck to carb got rid of all that computer crap

    • @albubbles9232
      @albubbles9232 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seymoarsalvage. Neanderthal

    • @mrflamewars
      @mrflamewars ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seymoarsalvage Well isn't that special. Congratulations on being a luddite I guess?

  • @misterdeedeedee
    @misterdeedeedee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    modern cats are surprisingly very good for government mandated emissions equipment. my first car I ran catless because you know 19 year old and while there was a little boost in power and throttle response (at least according to the butt dyno), the smell always sucked. when I eventually got rid of that one and got another car, I did a nice exhaust again but I put in high flow cats and it got me 95% the expected gains with 0% of the smell.

  • @davidg3283
    @davidg3283 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    To anyone questioning modern pollution controls on cars I suggest you attend a classic car meet and stand close by at the end when all the old cars line up to leave. Take a good deep breath as they drive by.

    • @lorennicholls5901
      @lorennicholls5901 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As my eyes burn as well.....

    • @CaptainBlitz
      @CaptainBlitz ปีที่แล้ว

      Then enjoy casually getting caner whilst bitching about pollution 💀

    • @dixiefire1337
      @dixiefire1337 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the people who sniffed exhaust fumes to tune a carb were the ones that put men on the moon but here we are worrying about smog in la

    • @gesamtszenario
      @gesamtszenario ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@dixiefire1337 The same generation of engineers who put men on the moon where the ones to worry about smog, and develop emissions control technology in the first place.

    • @TheCatOfAges
      @TheCatOfAges ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mmm, delicious

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I moved to San Jose in 1970 you couldn’t see the east foothills except after it rained.20 years later after cat conv.most of the smog had gone and hills retuned. Check out old reruns of dragnet on location street scenes , visibility is about 1 block

  • @bobbysenterprises3220
    @bobbysenterprises3220 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Cool video. It's quite rare for an OBD1 vehicle to have post cat o2 sensors. I was hoping that you would touch on the widely used scheme of pre cats and a second converter. Even my 2000 has two precats (split 3 & 3 cylinders) that are mounted very close to the engine right after the exhaust manifold. Then they funnel into one larger more traditional looking cat in the normal place.

    • @johnwalker194
      @johnwalker194 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Are pre-cats just oxidation converters ? Meaning they are as close as possible to the exhaust valves and glow white hot and burn any remaining hydrocarbons ? Sometimes they are just scrolls of stainless steel looking material ! I know from the car salvage industry that pre-cats are usually of little value when it comes to recycling the precious metals and the real value is in the main/secondary converter !

  • @TheMadTube
    @TheMadTube ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was a master automotive technician for 15 years. Whilst I absolutely lament the problems newer diesel vehicles have with their catalyst and emissions systems, I feel it is the greatest single thing that made vehicles better. Just the smell that accumulates on my clothing after working around non-catalyst vehicles can make me nauseous, so it has saved countless lives by reducing harmful pollutants.
    But we are still burning dead dinosaurs, so there’s that.

    • @TheMadTube
      @TheMadTube ปีที่แล้ว +3

      On average, engine oil is diluted with about 10-15% fuel and combustion material when you change it. That’s because no matter how good your piston rings are, some oil is lost in combustion. That works both ways, as fuel gets into the oil. For the most part, it balances out on good running engines where the fuel dilution is matched by amount of oil lost in combustion.
      As your oil gets more miles on it, it gets dirtier with wear and combustion products. That increased dirt is being cycled back into the combustion chamber to be burned, creating a small feedback loop. Fresh oil has less combustion products.

    • @andrewb8548
      @andrewb8548 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was talking to a guy who was the Northeast US sales manager for a major equipment manufacturer and asked him which model I should buy for non-commercial use. He looked both ways and whispered, used pre-epa 3 years at the time (off road diesel engine this was like 2010). He went on to explain that the best that they or anyone else could do was assume the warranty rate would approach 100%, so they added $7000 to the msrp to pay for it twice during the warranty period. As I wasn't going to run it daily the warranty would expire before I took advantage of the 2 extra catalytic converters I'd already paid for, and once it went I'd be stuck paying $3500 because the computer would shut it down once the check engine light was on for several hours.

  • @GalileoAV
    @GalileoAV ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I love it when safety technology is so ubiquitous that it can be almost forgotten about, blending into the background.

    • @mikemiller659
      @mikemiller659 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Until someone steals your cat converter

    • @dafalzonAUS
      @dafalzonAUS ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or if the engine check light comes on

    • @GodKing804
      @GodKing804 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or Mod your car

    • @michaelmccarthy4615
      @michaelmccarthy4615 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or costs so much money that it isn’t worth it…

    • @timault8209
      @timault8209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or the ECU gacks and the exhaust is carbon laden.

  • @video99couk
    @video99couk ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My 1994 Toyota Celica is still passing the stringent MOT tests in the UK, with its original catalytic converter installed.

    • @johnwalker194
      @johnwalker194 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A thousand cat converter thieves want to know your location now ! Big money in those "Japanese" cats of that era ! 😉

  • @rickintexas1584
    @rickintexas1584 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember the first time I went to Los Angeles in the late 80s. The air quality was horrible. Catalytic converters definitely played a part in making LA a little better.

  • @microdesigns2000
    @microdesigns2000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I was a child, cars were stinky and the exhaust made me choke all the time. I did not understand catalytic converters were the reason that problem went away. This is the best video I've seen on the subject.
    Over the years I realized I can tell brands of cars from each other by the smell from the exhaust. GM smells different than Toyota, than Chrysler than Ford. Probably this is variation on the catalyst used.

  • @mereal250
    @mereal250 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite fact from this video is that some diesel engines now run on Piss.

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They dont run on piss. Theyre mandated to periodically burn piss in the exhaust.

  • @ThatOneGuyWithTheEye
    @ThatOneGuyWithTheEye ปีที่แล้ว +30

    They are ridiculously expensive in CA taxed into oblivion I got the same cat replacement shipped to Arizona for like $150 for my silverado and it passed perfectly the same exact cat that was "CA compliant" and able to be shipped to California cost over 1k

    • @wolfmantroy6601
      @wolfmantroy6601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Move outa that shjt hole

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The cats are probably the same because people may take a carb car out of CA with OBD checks, and there are states that have similar requirements BUT the CARB kosher symbol cost a fortune.

    • @dallynsr
      @dallynsr ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Easy solution is to stop voting Democrat,
      And of course then move out of California.
      And absolutely in that order.

    • @Look_What_I_Did
      @Look_What_I_Did ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dallynsr Every body move to where dick head Dave lives. Turn it blue.

  • @xeonthemechdragon
    @xeonthemechdragon ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Such a simple component that does so much for emissions

  • @timault8209
    @timault8209 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ALWAYS an excellent production from this guy. New Mind is a great product.

  • @alg003
    @alg003 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And yet enormous ships burn millions of barrels of crude oil, instead of using safe, proven nuclear power, there are no restrictions for the US military vehicles, and it's being blamed on the average consumer, and we're told to pay 6 figures for an electric car with horrid ranges, reliability, and repairablility.

    • @lorennicholls5901
      @lorennicholls5901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they spray pollutants in the air all the time

    • @homuraakemi9556
      @homuraakemi9556 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically they burn marine diesel fuel, but I'm with you

  • @nolanmitchell7319
    @nolanmitchell7319 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The egr and dpf systems are over in the corner like hold by beer, they literally caused an entirely new market for deleting diesel's cause they were so hated by consumers.

  • @alexrogers777
    @alexrogers777 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good video, wouldn't have minded a more in depth explaination of how the reduction and oxidation reactions work, like the chemistry of them

  • @paul_109
    @paul_109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most hated part is easily the EGR, not only does it nothing to improve the performance, it actually shortens your engine's lifespan and costs you a metric shitton of money

  • @extremerc76
    @extremerc76 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My cat got stolen, insurance wouldn’t cover it… $2k, to replace cats on a $3k truck, now I’m straight piped! Lol

    • @JohnS-il1dr
      @JohnS-il1dr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lucky you don't live in Cali. That's a huge fine if you get caught here.

  • @Likeomgitznich
    @Likeomgitznich ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not to be “that guy” but a catalytic converter doesn’t cause check engine lights, the emission sensors do.

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's right, the converter itself has no signal output of any kind that the ECU can detect and process. It's the O2 sensors themselves that detect the emissions fault condition and not the cat.

  • @DustyTheDog
    @DustyTheDog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got lucky and didn't have to pay to replace my CC. There was a federal recall on the CC in my vehicle. So, at around 130k miles I went and got a new one for free. It was nice 👍👍👍👍

  • @ryanle1293
    @ryanle1293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the one sparkplug that just had to be behind literally every other part that's been seized for god knows how long is my most hated car part

  • @ericjennings853
    @ericjennings853 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its amazing the difference in the air quality when i travel to a 3rd world country walking around on the street the emissions are really bad from passing buses and trucks, also their gas stations have no vapor recovery systems on the fuel pump nozzles. My lady friend in the philippines and her sisters seem to all have athsma.

    • @h.d.h
      @h.d.h ปีที่แล้ว

      I ride motorcycles. So many bikers take off the cat and I wonder if they've ever traveled to a country where they don't have cats. Foolish assholes.

  • @WarmWeatherGuy
    @WarmWeatherGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the frequency of the oscillation between lean and rich mixtures? Once per day? 100 times per second?

  • @HaloWolf102
    @HaloWolf102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the most comprehensive video I've seen on catalytic converters, and the exhaust system in general I've seen. Amazing work, and thanks for the free education.

  • @charleshines8523
    @charleshines8523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only hate catalytic converters because many people get them stolen from their vehicles. I live in the styx somewhere and thus it is extremely rare to have a thing like that happen out here, especially when you have the vehicle in a garage. Perhaps it is one of the reasons some insurance companies have discounts for keeping a vehicle in a garage. It would only make sense since a vehicle in a garage would be less likely to be damaged in bad weather, vandalized, stolen or broken into by thieves looking for cash and valuables. Also my garage doors have locks that can slide into the side rails and make it just about impossible to open them. These also take a fair bit of force to operate so I seriously doubt a coat hanger would easily move them. They are good to have if you had a power outage and had to leave the house. You would use the emergence red handle to unlock it from the opener and manually open it then manually close it once the vehicle is out. You would just have to use the locks mentioned earlier to keep the doors from being opened. I like to unplug the opener so I don't mistakenly try to open the door while the locks are in use because it will not damage the door but it can make it really hard to undo the locks. I just use the front door to get back in whenever such a rare occurrence of a power outage happens with me needing to go some place.

  • @crazypete3759
    @crazypete3759 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The problem is the EPA turns this into a compliance issue instead of a measure of pollutants. They make it a crime to modify any emissions components, regardless of the outcome. If someone installs a high performance catalytic converter, that improves performance and emissions reduction, the EPA still considers that illegal! Even if you take it to an emissions testing place and show that the new system functions better, the EPA still says that is illegal! They don't care about complying with emissions standards, they only care about complying with their definitions and requirements so they can keep all the emissions companies making billions and billions of dollars! In commiefornia a stolen catalytic converter from a Toyota Prius can cost over $3000 to replace since you are required to use OEM parts, in other, more normal places, it would only cost $300-$500 since you can use any generic catalytic converter, and it works just the same, emissions results are the same. They need to stop focusing on compliance and bring back real testing!

    • @PURENT
      @PURENT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "High performance" catalytic converters increase emissions in exchange for performance. There is no way you're getting a catalytic converter that gives you better flow AND less than or equal emissions as stock.
      Most aftermarket ones are inadequate because they do cost cutting, the price in these things is all rare metals and if you're getting them for cheap you're not getting nearly as much rare metals in them.

    • @PURENT
      @PURENT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Flux Yeah if everyone used those cheap cats. The smog would be less than the 70s but more than now.
      It would also be noticeably smellier.

    • @JohnS-il1dr
      @JohnS-il1dr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You pay a thousand bucks to have that CA Compliant emblem stamped on a generic CAT that goes for 200 dollars in the other 47 states.

    • @crazypete3759
      @crazypete3759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnS-il1dr it's all a big cash grab!

    • @smd-tech
      @smd-tech ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PURENTlarger surface area cat can give better flow while still retaining conversion efficiency, at the cost of being more expensive as there is more material in it and being harder to fit in the available space. But yes a lot of the cats marketed as performance cats are not as efficient.

  • @JUSTENization
    @JUSTENization ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, awesome illustrations and explanations. Thank you.

  • @fjshdf
    @fjshdf ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm told by my mother an asian marketplace near me was actually a front for a catalytic converter theft organization. Apparently the guy who ran one of the restaurants with really good rice got his house raided and they found like four pallets worth of stolen converters. Wild.
    I mean, they're not gonna lose my business, it's really good rice and I can't find those spicy shrimp chimps anywhere else in town, but still crazy.

  • @TBrady
    @TBrady ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This isn't the most hated part, EGR coolers are.

  • @dave8599
    @dave8599 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The problem is that at least in California it is illegal to retail sell a used catalyst, so people are stuck buying a new one, then the state mandates a very expensive catalytic converter to be sold, sometimes five times the cost of an older type. This means the poor, people with old cars not worth much are forced to either pay what they cant afford, or end up scrapping their cars. Add to that that the liberal judges and DA refuse to lock up catalytic convert thieves means that theft and the associated costs to car owners has skyrocketed.
    These laws or lack of law is designed to get you out of your car, and onto the bus.
    Politicians screw up everything.

    • @BeelzeJon
      @BeelzeJon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Top comment status ✓

  • @neddyladdy
    @neddyladdy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, I never knew there were surveys about car parts. and hate.

  • @jaredkennedy6576
    @jaredkennedy6576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think I've ever seen an OBD 1 system that had catalyst monitoring. This was mandated with OBDII, and car manufacturers are loathe to do anything without being required to. The monitoring is pretty basic, too, usually it's just the computer watching for the rich-lean swing of both upstream and downstream sensors, and if the downstream one moves too much it'll set a P0420/P0430 code.

    • @SGTECH-di9df
      @SGTECH-di9df ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The CAT monitoring system is simple in concept but does a great job. The O2 sensors are actually one of the main systems used to monitor how the engine is operating in general and gives a lot of information when trying to find what is causing the sensors to read out of spec measurements for normal operation. The CAT monitoring system is not just monitoring rich to lean movements though, its making a calculation of how much of the pollutants are being converted and comparing those reading against all the other sensors on the car and the PCM crunches the numbers and if they dance than the CAT monitor on your car passes another day.

  • @josron6088
    @josron6088 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been working on my own car since I was 16 im 52. The problem some catalytic converters (if bad) there hard to get to, difficult to take off. Bolts and nuts fuse into place and break off. Expensive to pay a shop to do the work for you.

  • @ricepony33
    @ricepony33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pre heating cats with a simple fuel/spark combo similar to a garage rocket heater would work extremely well.
    It would also save engines wear and tear from cold start high rpm running.

    • @stevey500
      @stevey500 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe diesel emissions control systems do something similar to this. Some of them have a fuel injector in the exhaust system.

    • @SGTECH-di9df
      @SGTECH-di9df ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Toyota has a strange system on their vehicle that routes coolant lines around the outlet of the CAT that helps warm the engine faster so the engine can warm the CAT up in this way instead. It also had a switch that was physically moved by the temperature change to turn on/off the system automatically, really different thinking on that one. As an added benefit the engine now operates more often in it's normal operating temperature and has less internal "wear and tear"!

    • @stevey500
      @stevey500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SGTECH-di9df that’s quite wild. Cool to know! Thanks!

  • @keitha.9788
    @keitha.9788 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in southern California during the 1950's, 1960's, and early 1970's.. In the 1950's the smog seemed to burn my eyes and throat. By the end of the 60's, smog had changed. Although still quite visible, it didn't seem to burn my eyes and throat nearly as badly as years earlier in the 1950's.....

  • @sunnohh
    @sunnohh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cats are cool, plus they don’t really hurt performance anymore

  • @lr937
    @lr937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only one benefiting from it is the thieves going around stealing them

  • @user-zx8de8op9l
    @user-zx8de8op9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well done, your video should be used in auto shop class.

  • @mcspikesky
    @mcspikesky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PPF and DPF seems like a good topic but you're surely on it!

  • @CrazyBear65
    @CrazyBear65 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 78 Nova with one of those restrictive pellet-type cats on it. I took it off, emptied all the little bbs out of it so that it was just an empty can, and then put it back on the exhaust. Any restriction Big Brother can think up to oppress the people with can be defeated by a smart individual. Long live classic American musclecars!

  • @eds6889
    @eds6889 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation and video. Thanks for your hard work. You have me as a new subscriber.

  • @merevial
    @merevial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed this today.

  • @jonathankidwell6889
    @jonathankidwell6889 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting. Definitely expanded my knowledge on the subject. I've heard that the the net manufacturing foot print of catalytic converters approaches canceling out the benefit. But it's something I take with a grain of salt, although I'm sure the footprint of mining the precious metals and manufacturing the converters must be substantial. It would have been interesting to hear something about their footprint as well.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right but its nothing compared to BEV's. of course the real polluter isnt emissions. it hasnt been for over a decade as gasoline cars are so clean, its a non-issue. the big polluter is actually the toxic rubber in tires. EV's are much heavier, thus requiring replacement tires much more frequently, and wearing out roads much faster.

    • @epixtille7069
      @epixtille7069 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ct1762 that's the dumbest take I've ever heard

  • @gradypicinich2404
    @gradypicinich2404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh don't even get me started on blinker fluid

  • @hankkingsley9300
    @hankkingsley9300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank God I live where there are no inspections whatsoever

  • @HiatusMobs
    @HiatusMobs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EGR’s for sure the most hated.

  • @totallyrandomuser5760
    @totallyrandomuser5760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cats would be the only exhaust part I'd keep from original if I were to straight pipe

  • @snookysnax
    @snookysnax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    electric powered vehicles don't have this expensive crap to deal with.

  • @wannabeetiger
    @wannabeetiger ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually the Catalytic converter is definitely not the most hated part , cuz when I'm ready to scrap my car that's the first thing I'm going to cash in on. Besides, most people aren't trying to go race their car and have all the power they need, so they do not care if it's on there anyway. This is where government care and control with the EPA takes over.

  • @rock-uu7qr
    @rock-uu7qr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Egr dpf and def are the much more hated components

  • @5688gamble
    @5688gamble ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But if we just stopped uilding car-dependant sprawl we wouldn't need to make the pollution less offensive, if you got people onto trains, trams, buses and bikes instead of cars the benefits would be greater. Perhaps without catalytic convertors we wouldn't have allowed the real disease to have progressed so far and would have stopped demolishing our cities to put up wide roads and ugly parking lots with bland strip malls, drive-thrus and supermarkets miles away from suburban wastelands with no amenities.

    • @JohnS-il1dr
      @JohnS-il1dr ปีที่แล้ว

      Fk that. I need my car. I'm not going sit next to a smelly bum in the bus. Plus how will I bring a week's worth of groceries for a family of 4 on my eBike? Or Bus? Let people have a choice. You ride a bus fine. I'll drive my car and get to work on time instead of taking 4 transfers on the bus lines in California

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @chevyboyforlife4234
    @chevyboyforlife4234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It robs power ...Im glad I live in Florida you don't have to have them on you car

  • @that_hoser_143
    @that_hoser_143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how you release this video the day that I broke my sensor

  • @zacharytuttle5618
    @zacharytuttle5618 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My cat went bad in my lexus gs350 and that error code causes the traction control to turn off until its resolved. That's ridiculous.

    • @MaakaSakuranbo
      @MaakaSakuranbo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, if it doesn't, people will just going to ignore it. "eh, it works!"

    • @marvintpandroid2213
      @marvintpandroid2213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your whole car should shut off.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The interconnectivity of the systems in modern cars is crazy. One engine "related" fault and all interconnected systems are disabled. Traction control, stability control, cruise, remote start, it all depends on the brand, and how new the car is. The newer the vehicle, the worse it is.
      On some GM vehicles the AC is disabled.

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 ปีที่แล้ว

      O2 sensor faults cause my VSC and traction to turn off too. Any engine code does for some reason

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaakaSakuranbo that's up to the states to enforce. That's why you have annual inspections. Can't pass with a bad cat.

  • @shmookins
    @shmookins ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it hated? I never think about it and it isn't one of those parts that fail and need replacements enough times for most people to even know what it is.

    • @fartpluswetone8077
      @fartpluswetone8077 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only problem is, when they do fail, they render the car effectively inoperable (because it won't pass inspection in pretty much all states and thus can't be registered) and are very expensive to replace all for one part.

  • @arpankoley5245
    @arpankoley5245 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why are you not in Nebula, my friend?
    You have been making extremely informative videos.
    I genuinely suggest you to have a look on curiosity stream+ nebula package.

  • @Xibyth
    @Xibyth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats funny is we traded smog for cancer.

  • @shangri-la-la-la
    @shangri-la-la-la ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spark plug defowlers are not just for spark plugs. Try them the next time you have a 420 code.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Just one downstream...

  • @ThatOneCatNyx
    @ThatOneCatNyx ปีที่แล้ว

    Step 1: Buy BMW E46.
    Step 2: Get GarageFlasher and Protune
    Step 3: Tune out emissions readiness checks.
    Step 4: Profit??!

  • @billrowan1957
    @billrowan1957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think registration and mandatory insurance is the most hated auto part...

  • @who2u333
    @who2u333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you want to experience pre-catalytic converter air quality, spend a few days in Havana. It's an interesting experience.

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hallucinations from inhaling the air are interesting? ;)

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently the original American gasoline engines on those old cars have long since worn out and have been replaced by Soviet diesel engines.

  • @Akac3sh
    @Akac3sh ปีที่แล้ว

    I just hate how expensive they are. Especially primary cats. Had to pay 3000 to get them repaired

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many people are doing cat deletes…unfortunately not of their own choice.

  • @MrMaelstrom07
    @MrMaelstrom07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Answers with Joe on leaded fuel was fascinating. I don't remember what it was called, something like the man who killed millions.

  • @ThunderSims
    @ThunderSims ปีที่แล้ว

    The thumbnail for this video made me want maraschino cherries

  • @marklockwood8410
    @marklockwood8410 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting fact: Oxygen sensors don't actually sense Oxygen, but exhaust gas temperature. Exhaust gas temperature is influenced by the the evaporative cooling of fuel in the fuel injection system. This gives you a relative oxygen remaining level. I do not hate catalytic converters, but since my state does not do emissions tests, if I ever have one stolen it will be replaced by a pipe.

    • @JGnLAU8OAWF6
      @JGnLAU8OAWF6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are wrong, lambda sensors do measure oxygen concentration.

  • @khysor1832
    @khysor1832 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always remove them. Better to have them safe in my house rather than being stolen 😂

    • @volodumurkalunyak4651
      @volodumurkalunyak4651 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Insane decision. Catalytic converter inside your house is as userfull as stolen one. Furthermore you have to spend money upfront (NOT later or NEVER) removing one and making cars computer accepting that.

    • @khysor1832
      @khysor1832 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@volodumurkalunyak4651 been running solid for a catless downpipe for $200.

    • @volodumurkalunyak4651
      @volodumurkalunyak4651 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khysor1832 $200 down the drain. Even more if you value you'r lungs.

    • @khysor1832
      @khysor1832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@volodumurkalunyak4651 car goes vroom 🏎️

    • @volodumurkalunyak4651
      @volodumurkalunyak4651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khysor1832 no, it doesn't. It isnt a F1 car therefore it doesn't do wroom.
      Only Formula1 can go vroom.😎😁😁

  • @leevahal900
    @leevahal900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think i hate in tank electric fuel pumps even more.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Note. 5 years and 75% reduction was based on established science and was conservative.

  • @HelloKittyFanMan.
    @HelloKittyFanMan. ปีที่แล้ว

    "Myriad" isn't correctly used in "A myriad of of trace compounds are also present."
    FFR, it would be "Myriad trace compounds are also present."

  • @tjones261
    @tjones261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People only hate the catalytic converter because as the narrator said, it doesn't improve the cars performance for the car owner. What it DOES do is COST a lots of money as mechanics shoot expensive replacement parts at the car while trying to get the "engine light" to go out so the car can finally pass inspection.

  • @ailtonjose3079
    @ailtonjose3079 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    A piece that saved hundreds of thousands of people from suffering from respiratory illnesses.

    • @bleuebloom
      @bleuebloom ปีที่แล้ว +21

      npc comment

    • @__prometheus__
      @__prometheus__ ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@bleuebloom ironic

    • @MayankPrasad111
      @MayankPrasad111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stunning and brave.

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You forget the Ukrainian flag

    • @v3n0x
      @v3n0x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And counting

  • @marvintpandroid2213
    @marvintpandroid2213 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    How quickly we forget what big city air was like in the 1970s

    • @downstream0114
      @downstream0114 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Look at China before bitching about catalytic converters.

    • @marvintpandroid2213
      @marvintpandroid2213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@downstream0114 Any point you want to make rather than just shout CYNA ?

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      any time I went to the country from st Louis, I was all "Man U digging this air?" the difference is amazing.

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marvintpandroid2213 U wanna actually look at the places he is talking about? China has basically zero environmental protections.

    • @berrigo2
      @berrigo2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marvintpandroid2213 China currently has rampant air pollution due to lack of environmental regulation. It's literally the point. Look at Chinese cities they are buried in a cloud of smog

  • @LectronCircuits
    @LectronCircuits ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, it's better to have gas than to have a gas problem. Audience is completely exhausted. Cheers!

  • @workinprogress3942
    @workinprogress3942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trick question. Could be the converter or def or ecm or paint or tires. Seems like the most hated part would be the one your fighting against.

  • @Columbus1492
    @Columbus1492 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol it's cheaper to pay the fine for not having an emissions inspection than fixing the cat

    • @illbeyourmonster3591
      @illbeyourmonster3591 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given how so few states are now enforcing the laws anymore. It's sort of a moot point.

  • @markst.germain9286
    @markst.germain9286 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Smell of a car without one.

  • @jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069
    @jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I was a kid, I told everybody when I grew up, I was going to be a scientist-chemist. I never made it, mostly because my dad Herb demanded I work for a living in factories, the way he had to do. He was jealous of college people because they had an easier life and more money than her did. Yeah, but I've still always been interested in the kinds of things like this video, science 'n applied chemistry

    • @kevinwalsh2922
      @kevinwalsh2922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never too late. Good luck buddy!

  • @blackpantherjon9709
    @blackpantherjon9709 ปีที่แล้ว

    my 1997 jeep had one cat, pushed it to 92mph and the cat blew up 😂. took it off and straight piped it to the muffler, since vehicles older than 25 years old don’t need a cat in VA. doesn’t smell great but somehow better than it did before it blew.

  • @regularpit1508
    @regularpit1508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where we live there's no emissions tests and I can assure you my car and many of our others do not pass. So that statistics is probably right on what they surveyed but I would say it's much higher. Also vehicle 25 and older I think it is can get away without a catalytic converter.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No inspections in SC and probably never will be. We lose some Fed hwy funding because of that. Far nicer to not have the Governmnet's nose in our business and well worth the small cost 😁

  • @foracal5608
    @foracal5608 ปีที่แล้ว

    100,000 live? I think it's more than that. But huh I knew it was on the fly chemically changing the bad stuff but now I know more about it.

  • @xy_iron
    @xy_iron ปีที่แล้ว

    Who hates katalysators? Modern katalysators dont reduce power and they make your exhaust less harmfull, only benefits
    DPF on the other hand has many downsides like regeneration wich rises fuel consuption and causes oil to get contaminated with fuel.
    Also dpf often get damaged requiring you to buy new one for a lot of money. Katalysators dont really fail unless your engine runs very rich or uses a lot of oil

  • @ZentaBon
    @ZentaBon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    bruh have you smelled a cat less car, it's disgusting.

    • @Pippy1
      @Pippy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U zoomers havent experienced the colt start of a straight piped carbed vehicle. Its the best

  • @BigBoss1292
    @BigBoss1292 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they were hated in 1975 because they were the cherry on top to the disappointment cake of stricter emission standards and detuned engines that plagued the early 70s

    • @kenmohler4081
      @kenmohler4081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I made the mistake of buying a new car in 1974, the height of detaining to meet emission standards. A 350 cubic inch (5.7l) engine producing around 140 horsepower and getting 8 to 10 miles per gallon. Today my car has a 3.6l engine producing 310 horsepower and delivering over 30 miles per gallon on the highway. You won’t convince me that catalytic converters weren’t the way to go.

  • @circusmaximus72060
    @circusmaximus72060 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pffft the most hated emission equipment is the SCR systems on diesel trucks.