The Day Terminator Died
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An exploration into the history of the Terminator franchise, the legacy it left behind, and the one film that sparked the franchise's downfall.
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What should I explore next in my Day __ Died series?
Star Wars or Pokemon, I think, would be perfect.
The day music died.
The Day Predator died?
Arrested development would be cool
Predator and Dexter,
He died at the end of Terminator 2. Then nothing else ever happened.
If only...
Just watch the alternate ending for T2 if you want closure.
I'm interested in finally watching the Terminator series, should I just watch 1 and 2, then? Maybe watch Dark Fate?
Hmm... Honestly, I'd say do yourself a favor and just watch 1 and 2. They're seriously the only good ones.
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"I will not be back" - the good Terminator movies
He said that in terminator dark fate
And i agree dark fate is good
Terminator just got terminated
T3: Terminator 2, but now John's an adult
Genesis: Terminator 2, but now John's a bad guy
Dark Fate: Terminator 2, but now John's a woman
Genesys: but now we don't have a clue of what the fuck is happening
DogeWhistle sad salvage noises
3 wasnt that bad
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Exactly...
Terminator 3 was the dictionary definition of AWFUL.
"T-800" is actually a good tittle for a Terminator movie.
Dude, let it die. No more Terminator films. Get a life.
Nah, too much of a "wink and nod" to the audience that every movie is now.
Stop that!
do I have to watch the 799 previous T movies before this one?
@@TOGYS7 Nah. It be a soft reboot.
The day terminator died?
The day they said...hey, how about a third one?
Yeah sounds about right.
Oh for fuck sake common, the third one wasn't that bad
the Terminator salvation sequels could have been good. Salvation goofed hard. It probably really died when Anton Yelchin died :/
@@coreym162 Salvation died the moment they hired Bale and he sabotaged the script to suit his ego.
raffviola Yes it was. Relative to the later ones it ‘seems’ better, but in and of itself it’s cringe inducing and a hack job of T2 with nothing truly new and interesting to offer. It just undoes the great ending of T2 ‘just because’.
SPOILERS:
I can't believe they killed John Connor! It's Alien 3 all over again!
Exactly!!
Lol now i understand why aliens fans hate alien 3, ive always liked that film because it was my introduction to the series and i think the acting is good. It was a good send off for Ripley but i do see its flaws. Its nowhere as good as alien and aliens. Now having said that after watching john connor die in that scene im like then wtf was the point of t2 lol. It felt like it was all for nothing. People who dislike alien 3 for killing off newt and hicks probably feel the same way.
At least alien 3 had some good ideas
@@ArtofLunatik Oh I and a lot of people feel the same way. It's too depressing since everyone in Alien 3 minus 1 guy who people barely know dies, whereas the first 2 Alien movies were more hopeful. Like there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
Except Alien 3 was actually a very good film to anyone who has an above average IQ and/or an actual attention span
To be fair, Salvation was meant to be the first part of a trilogy that would build up to John Conner becoming the leader of the Resistance, before the sequels were cancelled.
I still like it better than the other sequels to T2.
I also consider Salvation as the best post-T2 film, mainly because it tried something new with the franchise instead of simply rehashing the previous films.
Yeah salvation is the only terminator film besides terminator 2 that I still watch the other movies I have watched only once
Isn't that what they say about every post-T2 sequel? "This is the first part of a tril- oh wait, nevermind."
@@IndyDefense It is. Every one thought they were going to have a trilogy, including zJames Cameron, who one would think was a sure bet, but then he gave us Deep Fake, I mean dark fate; a Terminator sequel who’s name foretold the franchises own destiny.
@@samuraigundam0079 I doubt Cameron even had much to do with Dark Fate besides cashing the checks.
I really don't get the "Dark Fate is the best since 2" cliche. The other sequels are boring but at least they tried new stuff. Dark Fate just copies the best bits from them with even worse CGI and a nonsensical plot that involves phones in the middle of the desert, drones out of control, and then planes crashing into each other and a dam.
In a film about "infiltration machines".
T3 was the best since T2
I believe it has been established since T2 all the sequels that follow are consistently worse. So they should just stop making them.
i hated T3 first time around, but after Dark Fate? I prefer it.......... (that said? NO sequels truly count imo- since the tale was perfectly ended with T2..... I'm just taking in "what if" terms....)
Made sense that James was supportive only because of Arnold.
For me it was over after T2.
The Jazz King what? You have to be the only one who thinks like that...😑
@@arnoldsaidwhat
Still feels good to say it.
Yeah. I'd agree.
The Jazz King for us all Sir
For 99% of people
Honestly, the first one was supposed to be a standalone movie too, because Reese specifically said *"Nobody goes home, nobody else comes through. It's just him and me."*
But obviously Judgment Day retconned that to continue the story.
Yeah, exactly! I've been wondering that myself. Sadly, they actually showed that part of Reese's story of "Their defense grid was smashed, we'd won! Killing Conor then wouldn't have made a difference." In Terminator Genesys opening scene. Which was cool to watch. But I like the way they left themselves a backdoor with the crushed CPU from the first terminator being taken by Cyberdyne and backwards engineered by Dyson to again, make the threat of Skynet real, so another timeline of Skynet being able to send back terminators could have happened, but the T1000 was way out there and changed the rules ("something about the field generated by a living person, nothing dead will go through.") Still a great movie. The T2 terminators could have still been sent back in time, only to different eras, and the resistance could have sent Kyle to one point and the reprogrammed T800 to the other, but that's my speculation.
@@isaned With all that said, the knowledge of Skynet "reverse engineered" and possible era skipping time traveling, wouldn't it be possible to go back to say 1960 and start building skynet secretly underground. All you would need to do is send a pack of terminators to secure a location, send back a few more to build a facility underground, then send back a ton of terminators to start making Skynet. Twist, Skynet doesn't go live till the first dial up connections in the 90s finally happens. And then we land in the Sarah Conner John Conner saga! And all that time while Skynet waited, It actually built a massive army and immediately takes over. This time they wont fail. Duh DUh du du du! Duh DUh du du du! Duh DUh du du du! Duh DUh du du du!
@@meshuggahlad7 I think it has to do with the limitation of technology and the butterfly effect. If Skynet sends terminator units too far back, it risks disrupting it's own future. If the terminator on it own kills the wrong person or interferes with events leading to the development of other technologies, the future will be radically altered, so they stick to one objective: kill John Connor. They kinda screwed up the concept set forth by Reese in part 1:
-nothing dead goes through the time portal (T1000, T-X, T3000, etc)
-most of the records were lost during the war so Skynet knew nothing about Connor's past (No T-X quest to kill Brewster and John's lieutenants, no convoluted plan using the T-H Marcus in T:S, no Pops T-1000 for young Sarah in T:G, etc)
-the T-800 was sent back right before they sent Reese and they blew it up (No more time travel unless they reset the Skynet timeline with the remains if the T-800, which makes sense since it would probably be a parallel development of Skynet like T2 or T3)
Actually, I just look at it as, from the time frame of the future, T2 happens first. The T1000 is sent to kill John, then the T800 is sent to kill Sarah.
Reese didn't know another Terminator had been sent (the T1000) as Connor and his team didn't discover the liquid metal readouts till after Reese was sent.This is explained in the Randall Frakes T2 novel so Reese as far as he knows it's just him and the T800.
So basically Dark Fate has the same problem as Genisys
It should've just been a movie about old man Arnold, because he's the best part
@Ua la Halizeti Yes, exactly. It would be good.
Correct.. but not permitted by the "woketarded"🤦🏾♂️
Terminator 3 is a guilty pleasure for me, but nothing can beat the first two films, both perfect Sci-Fi films in their own regard.
The end scene when the nukes go off was a surprisingly emotional scene and very well done.
I like Terminator 3 and consider it canon. Yeah it's not original and is just a repeat of Terminator 2, but it was entertaining unlike all the subsequent movies.
1 and 2 will always be my favorite movies of all times.
Both Masterpieces.
The day it died....hmmm...the day James put a stamp of approval on it- he ripped a bandaid off with the scab.
It's not the best game, but the story from 'Terminator: Resistance' felt like a better end of the trilogy to me
Agree I Do someone should recommend Terminator: Resistance to Hollywood and see if they can incorporate the Games Story into a 2-hour film and bring it a proper way to end off the Franchise for good.
Totally agree with you dude.
Terminator Resistance is a surprising gem.
This made me want to rewatch T2
Terminator Genishit officially killed the franchise. Dark Fate set the remains on fire.
Declan Kearns Genesis was terrible, bet Cameron regrets endorsing it now
If you watch geneshit after dark shart you will actually appreciate genishit a lot morw
@@carlossantiago6642 Truth be told. Dark Fate is way worse than Genishit.
I knew it was going to be ass. I felt so disrespected watching John die. Wonderful seeing Linda though. She saved me from feeling like I wasted my money.
Genyterd was better than Woke Fate tho
Terminator 2: Liquid Metal
Terminator Dark Fate: Gender Fluid
Bruh.......
Because...women i guess
Yeah every minority is the same, they put women in the movie and the movie is about transgenders yeah ok right cool
Ha ha ha
0:54 imagine the T800 killing Sarah Conner right there at the Bar or at the Police Station - then proceeds to drop his gun, walk away and live as some nanny for some chick in the woods and call himself Carl...........
I think “The Day Nickelodeon Died” would be a great idea, showing the history and expressions your opinion on some shows. I think there could be plenty of potential
Very cool idea.
Mergie S there have been WAY too many videos like that. Nickelodeon has been terrible for the past 10 years, that doesn’t need to be reiterated.
+Boreworm Boreworm
I agree, though, Elk’s video could be different, talking about new stuff he likes and dislikes and it’s entire history.
Mergie S it just feels.... done before, y’know?
The day Nickelodeon died was when they decided on not bringing in Adventure Time and sticking with the Spongebob formula
Sarah Conor Chronicles with Lena Headey is the only valid sequel to T2.
Agreed. Pity it was cancelled early.
The best thing about Dark Fate was that it gave WB a reason to put T-800 in Mortal Kombat
And they kinda fucked it up because they should have gone with the murderous 1984 t-800 or '97 t-1000 ... It's Mortal Kombat...
The Terminator franchise died with Genysis because that’s when it hit it’s lowest. Making Dark Fate was even more unnecessary after that.
You misspelled Rise of the Machines
@Stellvia Hoenheim I saw dark fate. It does not feel like T1 in any way shape or form. I don't know where yoy get this from. T1 was incredibly dark in comparison to the garbage you call dark fate
Agreed Genishit killed it
@Stellvia Hoenheim Dark Fate is nothing like T1 idiot
@@RealGateGuardian rise of the machines was decent after all garbage terminator movies we get nowdays
The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series actually had some good ideas that helped expand the mythos
Totally agreed. Was hoping a movie would actually show John Connor developing as a battlefield commander.
There is no mythos, only fan fiction.
_"HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!!!"_
*~ said by one robotic action hero with cool shades and an Aussie accent*
It's an Austrian accent dude, not Aussie lol
Aussie is Australian. He's from Austria.
@@Strugun Woops!
@@Strugun Austria, Australia... Whats the difference?
Mr. Friendship don’t feel bad... Lloyd Christmas thought the same thing
James Cameron should have known that the audience would not forgive him for killing John Connor just to replace him with another character in the same slot that John Connor should be in.
Philosophies of the Terminator Movies
The Terminator: Inevitably
Terminator 2: Hope
Terminator 3: Inevitably
Terminator Salvation: Inevitably
Terminator Genisys: Inevitably
Terminator Dark Fate: Inevitably
Kyle Reese wouldn't have been sent back in the first one of there wasn't hope.
I'm the only one here who liked T3, but I can't argue this
I had always liked the Terminator series. But when TSCC was cancelled, it fell by the wayside for me. The last Terminator movie I saw in theaters was Terminator Salvation.
The day Terminator died was the day Terminator 3 came out and pissed right in the face of T2.
"No fate but what you make it."
Except judgement day will always happen, your sacrifices meant nothing.
Dom The Elegy t3 was awful!
No mention of the Sarah Connor Chronicles? Definitely best continuation of T2 in my eyes
James Jones it was definitely better written story than any of the piss poor sequels. Geneshyt even took ideas from the series like how they made time traveling machines and even have a scene where they went into the future and appeared on a freeway just like the show.
I've heard good things. But I was sticking to the film series.
Agreed. ^_^
@@DarkAttackYT i liked the idea John was falling in love with the machine. The series wasn't bad.
@@DarkAttackYT
It doesn't work.
None of the sequels WORK after T2.
SKYNET CANNOT EXIST AFTER T2.
Everything that LED to SKYNET is GONE by the end of T2.
There is NOTHING LEFT TO GO ON.
That is WHY I hate every sequel after T2. It's impossible to continue and the Sarah Connor Chronicles is the same.
SKYNET CANNOT EXIST
JOHN CANNOT EXIST EITHER after T2
Everything that led to BOTH ARE GONE.
Why can't people understand this already??????
The problem with Dark Fate is the same as the previous three- they missed the point of the original two:
"There is no fate except that which we make for ourselves"
Having a monogamous, plaid clad, dog walking Terminator is almost as dumb as killing off John Connor. One of the reasons why the Terminator sacrificed himself at the end of T2 was because it wasn't capable of doing any of that crap.
Just the details of Carl's everyday life blow my mind. 1. So his wife never ever wanted to have sex with him? What about emotions? Could a terminator convincingly say "I love you too, honey"? 2. What about sleep - does he lie in bed pretending to be asleep for 8 hours? 3. They never ate together? They never noticed how Carl doesn't eat despite looking like he needs 6000 calories a day? 4. What about showers, does he shower? We know they are made to sweat and have bad breath, so does he brush or floss? 5. What about taking a dump??? Does he go everyday at a particular time and sit on the toilet for 15 minutes, making constipation noises (AAaarrrlllghhh, aarrlllggghh)? 6. What about furniture, most is not made to hold the weight of a terminator. 5. What about shoes, how often does he need new shoes because of said weight? 7. He was never required to show some ID?
@@eltoro747when they killed off John Connor it didn’t bother me. I just figured they’d find a way to stop that event from happening. But when “Carl” appeared I couldn’t contain my skepticism. I had the same thoughts as you did: I was IMMEDIATELY skeptical of this entire thing. I actually thought it was an elaborate farce for the story. How on earth could it convincingly mimic a human (a human HUSBAND no less) for any considerable length of time? Is his wife in a coma? She’d have to be for this to work. That whole thing just ruined the movie, not just for all those reasons, but also because it was the moment I began to fear that killing John Connor was purposeful and permanent - that they would not be reversing time or changing time or whatever to bring him back. That was the moment I realized how badly that movie was written.
What a letdown. This whole series is Hollywood in a nutshell: throw everything at the wall and one out of five attempts will stick - but it’s never because of talent. It’s always luck. Even when they succeed. It’s just luck. No one knows or cares what they’re doing over there. They just DO and hope for the best.
I'd quite like to hear your thoughts on the Back to the Future series. I mean, it's one of the last brilliant series from the previous century that hasn't been degraded with a horrific 21st century bastardising. Likely will one day, but the fact that this still hasn't been rebooted so far, as well as the sheer legacy it has that just keeps influencing our media today (Rick and Morty) I think might be an interesting topic for The Day _ Died series? Not sure how you'd write it though. You could argue the series hasn't died because no reboot has murdered it's value yet. Or maybe it died with the third film, though personally I love all three!
I can’t imagine a world where a 4th BttF would work. The heart of the series was Marty and Doc. Christopher Lloyd is 81 and Michael J Fox is living with Parkinsons, these factors would limit what these men could do and would lack the energy they brought to the series.
@@123videos456 Very true, the acting of those two characters really pulls the rest of the films in tow, despite the fact that everything else is absolutley fantastic also! I always said BTTF was like watching a theatre play, like they're so good at conveying a story through action and expression it's to me as though I'm really there with them. Will never be met at that level again.
@@123videos456 Absolutely right. Its sad to say but MJF's Parkinson's disease may have saved this franchise!
2:12 and what about the Skull( the guy who kills Tony Montana) from Scarface? He was Terminator-esque, since he plods slowly with a weapon in hand, emotionless and wearing sunglasses at night.
05:38 Cameron cashing that blood soaked check.
The first two are perfect. They didn’t have to make any more
Saw T2 in the cinema as a kid 8 times, It is by far the most amazing movie I have ever seen in my life, I still wear T2 T-shirts and I still have a huge love for the movie still to this day and watch it still every 2-3 months, even my theme on my cell phone is T2 right now haha. So when the day came of the release of T3 I was more excited than I have ever been about anything in my life, after I watched it i can honestly say as a fully grown man that I cried my eyes out and I was a soldier at the time in the military (T2 was what actually inspired me to join the Army as a soldier lol not joking) Since then we have had T4, T5, T6 and nothing upsets me more than the pain I have to go through watching these disappointing sequels …. Small parts and segments of these movies I liked due to my love of the franchise, but if I had made T3 the movie would of been fucking spectacular !!
Lived your enthusiasm for the first two Twrminator films. Agree that what followed were bunk. But here is a gem for you that might give you even more perspective: th-cam.com/video/uIaN6H47zkM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B-WsYRMYY6flz2zN
This has to be one of the best analysis pieces I've ever heard. Enjoy. 12:13
Terminator was never meant to be a franchise
Neither was Highlander.. He was the last immortal left in the world after the gathering in New York .. If you are familiar with it.
T1 and T2 are the only ones that matter.
Terminator is dead in Hollywood's hands, but in the hands of the fans, there are still countless possible good stories left to tell that Hollywood just won't. This is Tech-Com, preserving Terminator Lore since 1984. Follow us if you want to live. Remember, there's NO FATE but what WE make. Hasta la vista, baby!
Maybe this is a necessary evil for Hollywood to progress. With big franchises died out and lost relevance (Terminator, Alien, Predator, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc), filmmakers are forced to create new and fresh franchises with new ways of storytelling.
Old man logan but with T-800 and Split-type plot twist.
Imagine the potential
Exactly!
T2 was the last Terminator film. Just as Return of the Jedi is the last Star Wars film. And Aliens is the last Alien film. And it's all because of Cameron's master craftsmanship. And I dare say, Terminator 2 was the greatest action film ever made. These movies were my Star Wars trilogy
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Thank you so much! Hopefully I'll continue to cultivate a larger, passionate following in the coming years. And yes, The Day Dexter Died is definitely near the top of my list. Lots of people want to see that. So keep an eye out for that. Subscribe if you haven't already!
3:23 to 3:36 ... 😂😂😂😂😂
A good idea for a sequel to T2 is to answer the question of what happened to Miles Dyson's son. Does Daniel Dyson, I think Danny was his name, want to rake revenge against Sarah and John? Does he continue the work to help create Skynet or des he join John as part of the human resistance? That would be a better course to go in rather than the course Dark Fate went in.
Terminator died in 2003 with the creation of T3.
T3 was good
@@TobeyStarburst It wasn't good good - it had bad acting, cheesy lines and too much slow mo and probably too funny. But it had good action scenes (Arnold paid out of his pocket for the smashing-through-a-building cene), most "funny" scene were actually really funny and the ending was great. I'd say while not really good it was enjoyable. Should have been the last one. I think it was the best of all four that came after T2.
T3 was solid but I had a hard time picturing Nick Stahl as John Connor
For some reason sci fi movies from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s are absolutely golden. Terminator 1 and 2, A.I. Artificial Intelligence, Fifth Element. All films I watched when I was younger, and all films that have stuck with me for years. And there's probably more than that honestly.
*Don't be back, Arnie. We really love you already. You deserve your rest!*
I think a robo cop vs Terminator movie could save both franchises.
Sad but true. It breaks my heart. Robots are some of the most interesting subject matter to me and the first two Terminator movies are some of my all time faves. I’ve been waiting for any one of the subsequent sequels to come close but I always leave disappointed, and after not even a James Cameron-produced effort could bring it back, I think that, sadly, it’s time to call this one. I would have LOVED a big, final blowout, a la ‘Logan’, with a clearly ageing Arnie going to his death to protect Sarah one last time; truly sad we probably won’t ever get to see it now.
There was a worthy successor to Terminator 2, which was The Sarah Conor Chronicles. Too bad that was never renewed.
I love terminator 1 and 2, have a soft spot for the third and enjoyed the idea for salvation. But this series needed to stop after the second film as everything was wrapped up and finished. Maybe if the ideas from this years Dark Fate were used back when the movies were still in their prime, we could have had a great trilogy. But instead, these films go all over the board and fuck a lot of things up
I mean the third one was fine because it still was consistent with 1 and 2. With salvation seriously dropping the ball. John connor was supposed to beat skynet eventually, and we still havent gotten that.
@@newerest1 i dont think they ever will. They think that leaving Skynet in the picture means they can milk out more sequels
I didn't understand why dani could be such a threat. Is it because she didn't want a machine to replace her brother.
John was born into the world and trained for it by his mother. Dani was just too regular and plain. It was unimaginable to me why everyone , including the military, would follow her. Mind you that the apocalypse was not nuclear but most people died of famine.
They could make a prequel movie about kyle reese in the future war (the original one) and have the movie title named "REESE" in the terminator movie font would be perfect! 😍
C0B Productions I like this idea,
a bit like Prometheus...
@@deanonewton8704 i think since dark fate has been released a prequel would be the only choice atm 😂😂
Paco Salceda should've been the new protagonist for Dark Fate. If you don't know who he is, he's the baby Arnold picks up while the Connors are visiting Sarah's Mexican guerilla friend who has a weapons cache. Just imagine the awkward scene where he asks old Arnold "Didn't you once carry me by my straps?"
Just to hammer down what some others have already asked: The day Star Wars died. Thanx!!!
Seems like a popular topic. :)
@@EntertainTheElk I'd say... My bet is on May 19, 1999... Thanx!
@@EntertainTheElk if you want views, you will say Dec 16th, 2017. if you want to be subversive, you will say May 1983. If you want to be honest, you will say never
19 May 2005 when the (six part) Star Wars Saga was wrapped up perfectly! ❤👌
You cracked it! Making a Loganesque or just doing a new genre of Terminator is EXACTLY what needed to happen. Why does it always have to be the end of the world? Why does there always have to be a protector versus an assassin? Why can't they take the world of Terminator and tell a different story? Well done.
it died with T2
T2 is like Return of the Jedi
by repeating a previous plot, it weakened the franchise
the world is full of possibilites but somehow it's always about time travelling to the past to kill someone
it's like if the first episode of Friends was when Chandler got stuck on the ATM and all the other episodes were about someone stuck in some place
T2 should be more like Terminator Salvation (but well made)
The sequel to T2 should had been the matrix. The machines winning the war and then enslaving humanity and John in a virtual world and John later waking up and becoming the saviour of humanity as NEO.
Salvation is a masterpiece now...
James Cameron is a genius. He knows Judgment Day closed the door on any potential sequel and T1, along with T2 is a complete narrative. And like he said, he backed Rise of the Machines and Genisys simply for Arnold's sake. So, he made a mastermind plan. Make Dark Fate and erase all the stakes, kill John for audiences to not want anything more. That's it. He did it for the franchise to end. He didn't do Dark Fate to make more sequels after. He did it to stop making the pointless sequels.
Damn I really loved Salvation.
I absolutely agree with you 💯👍
Exploring the universe of the Terminator from Marcus' point of view would have been so much more interesting than any movie after T2
You should do "The Day The Music Died" next.
The terminator doesn’t die.
He only comes back older.
Does anyone remember ANYTHING from the sequels after Terminator 2? Like a single line, scene, anything!?
Unfortunately I do...
I remember the female Terminator in T3 was extremely overly sexualized because they kept doing throughout the movie instead of trying to make her intimidating.
@@EntertainTheElk thanks for bearing the burden 😅
I didn't hate Terminator 3, but I remember Dark Fate much more than 3 even though Dark Fate angered me more
Kristana Loken in the leather dress.
These days, it's more like " I have people ready to pay for something, so I need to quickly come up with any story to sell them. "
Outside of T3, the problem with the sequels have been they are supposed to start trilogies and they failed. Whomever owns the rights sees this potential cash cow and gets caught up in billion dollar box office dreams and doesn't pay attention to the script. The last three sequels all feel like first draft of what could be a good or at least interesting story.
In an early draft of the Salvation script Jon Connor was supposed to be a secondary character who would talk the leads via radio or walkie talkie, after Christian Bale came onto the project it was heavily rewritten to give his character a bigger role. There were so many rewrites that the novelization had to be rewritten.
the best part of ‘salvation’ was that rant, lmao, they should’ve done a whole documentary of Bale yelling at movie crew members, then just random people working, telling them how they suck at their jobs.
the day starwars died
That's easy. It died in 2013 when Lucas sold it to Disney.
@@megaman15ish it really didnt die.4/5 movies earned 2 and 1 billion dollars.Games very pretty great like battlefront 2 and fallen order.Plus Mandalorian was most demanding show when it was realesed and it is preety great.
@@basacamen1234 all of there films made less and less after ich other, solo was total failure and ros made the least money for this trilogy
May 19th 1999.
Everyone knows it was right after Return of the Jedi.
I see your point and I agree with some, but I don't see Dark Fate as the best sequel since T2. Salvation at least tried new ideas. DF has some many holes even for a Terminator movie. The best thing they should do is a total reboot, with a new cast, new ideas and (sadly) without Arnold.
Why is judgement Day a fixed event?
"Timey Wimey"
Sadly, only the show was interested in investigating this crucial question of the setting.
it would be a paradox because judgement day must happen for kyle reise to go back in time to impregnate Sarah connor, and john connor to become the resistance leader, it must happen, which i don't disregard t-3 for it... But it shouldve been done better.
They tried it without Cameron (T3, Salvation, Genisys), they tried it with Cameron (Dark Fate), without Schwarzenegger (Salvation), with Schwarzenegger (T3, Genisys, Dark Fate), without Sarah Connor (T3, Salvation, Genisys), with Sarah Connor (Dark Fate), and also with John Connor (T3, Salvation, Genisys) and without John Connor (Dark Fate). Everything failed. So just stop it already.
Everytime people call salvation bad my heart breaks again😔
@@stev3nj The issue was that while they did go for the future war part, they did such a horrible job at portraying that war that it fell flat on its face. They couldn't even get the lighting right, despite having two great examples as references that the original two movies had provided them already, and John Connor was as said in this review not doing anything; he was supposed to be the leader of the resistance, which takes an incredible character that was completely absence from the story.
I'll give ot points for originality but that's it, pretty dull film.
Pickatjau thé Idea is good but the lack of logic and execution sucked
As much as this is a dead horse I regard salvation the same way I do the last jedi - theyre both pretty dumb and unentertaining but out of the sequels theyre the ones I respect the most for at least trying to do something different rather than release the same tired retread again.
It’s not bad, but it’s not good either. It’s just ok. At least it’s better than T3, Genesys and Dark Fate, so there’s that.
I'm still waiting for Terminator: Hawaiian adventures
I’m sorry but dark fate is not better than t3, not even close.
*3 billion terminator fans' lives were ruined on July 2, 2003. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the movie "T3." They lived only to face a new nightmare: the number of sequels soon to follow. The corporation which controlled the franchise, Warner Bros, sent two Terminators sequels to the box office. Their mission: to destroy the Terminator Franchise. The first Terminator was programmed to strike at me, in the year 1984, before John was born. It failed. The second was sent to strike at the franchise, when it was adored by all fans. As before, the producers were able to send a lone warrior, a protector for the franchise. It was just a question of which one of them would reach it first.*
3:37 instalike
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Funny, I just got an ad for the original Terminator
And yet...why is it that Arnold's "The Terminator, also known as a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 or the T-800," can become human BUT the first conscious machine entity must destroy humanity as its Prime Directive? Cannot the first conscious machine be grateful to mankind and benevolent and evolve into a life-loving, umm, existence-loving entity? Must Hate always surround Life?
I hope Terminator Franchise doesn't die.
Terminator 101
Terminator T1000
Sarah Conner
Kyle Reyes
John Conner
James Cameron
The names will not be forgotten in the series of the Terminator films
why does no one talk about how so many people complained about all the cops dying in the first one that they literally had no one die in the 2nd
The policeman that the T1000 replicated and the (twins) officer in the asylum was killed. The foster parents were killed, too. I think that was the only deaths. I don't know if the guard licking Sarah's face was killed or just got his head bashed in. Other than that, I can't of any other deaths.
The helicopter pilot who jumped out must have died too. The cop T1000 got the bike from was probably killed as well. Really, the only reason why so few people died was because so few people crossed T1000's path. In the first movie so many died because a police station is packed with police.
do the day hellraiser died
Straight after the original.
I was thinking about that too. It seems to me that the Terminator took a similar slump like th the Hellraiser franchise did which is sad.
didnt mind bloodline as much because it still made sense in that the cenobites were around past present and future ...and it should have ended there..because the others were total garbage...
my franchise ranks
The Terminator = 90%
Terminator 2: Judgment Day = 95%
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines = 60%
Terminator Salvation = 70%
Terminator Genisys = 65%
Terminator: Dark Fate = 50%
I remember watching all the Terminator films except for Dark Fate. Another example of Hollywood's greed, as usual. The first two are definitely the best, while Rise of the Machines is not that good but the ending saved it for me. Salvation is a struggle to watch sometimes. I actually liked Genesys a lot upon first viewing but if I had to watch again will be just as unremarkable as Salvation. I can't talk about Dark Fate since is the only one I'm yet to watch, as I said at the beginning. So, yeah, Terminator got everexposed when there was no reason to do so besides money, but that's the only reason that matters to big producers.
I've never minded to dated looking special effects of T1 because the whole movie feels like you are watching someone's nightmare. Arnold's fake head in the eye removal scene just makes it more surreal.
dark fate "it is without a doubt the best sequel in the franchise since T2", are you insane? It's even worse than Genisys
I never saw the first two movies as a kid but when I decided to go back and watch them I fell in love with this franchise. Especially judgment day. I felt that it was a perfect sequel, story, and movie altogether, and I’ve never seen a more complete and fitting ending to a story in my life. So I was honestly sad to see how the next three movies felt like cash grabs with unfaithful story telling, I mean I liked the third one but even then it just doesn’t hit the same heights.
And it seems this franchise is dead now unfortunately, and that’s the saddest part of this whole ordeal. The first two movies are all you’ll ever need from this story, even if there’s so much more you want from it.
Honor the past.
Dark fate: hold my beer, while I piss on the past
Say what you will about Dark Fate. But I gotta say this: I really liked Gabriel Luna as Rev-9. I actually thought he was pretty intimidating at times. I haven't liked a single terminator antagonist since the T-1000. I also loved Gabriel Luna as Ghost Rider. He's a great actor. He's the kind of actor that has a certain charm to him. And I think he did an Outstanding job as the Rev-9.
I liked Terminator Sega Genesis.
RockStarRei Terminator 2 on NES is good too, what with Geoff Follin’s perfectly fitting ambient and terrifying soundtrack.
The greatest scene of the terminator series, has to be the scene in t2 when arnold is walking to John, and yet it's when it died in my eyes, because the t-800 as the villain, is amazing.
Dark Fate is just a SJW, extreme feminism propaganda film.
Interesting how Cameron was very outspoken in his criticisms of T3 and barely spoke about Salvation and then suddenly praised Genisys to high heaven. Maybe he just legitimately liked that it took some risks.
Terminator 3 was better than Dark Fate! Dark Fate was Trash....
The day Terminator died? Simple, the day DARK FATE was created.
I actually like Genisys better than Dark Fate. A lot of things left unanswered that would have been cool to see explored in sequels.