Since this video has picked up in viewership over the past weeks, I'll let new viewers know, TGX Game Reviews is long dead and I have a NEW channel. So if you wish to find me, you can find me here. youtube.com/@tbp?si=6tiRCQEyH8yvtHxH Otherwise, don't subscribe to TGX, you wont get anything out of it.
Im glad even you cam enjoy one of the best JRPGs ever made, but boy, listening to you saying: "i recently replayed final fantasy 9 and theres so much talk i was 4 hours in and only played for one hour" makes you Sound like a 5 year old with ADHD😂
1:59:05 Did you really just degrade an entire nation overseas by calling anime 'Trash?' Buddy, you've never even made anything CLOSE to as good as Anime, & All bets point that you and others like you NEVER being able to. Ha.. +
Yes, this is an extended edition to my 3 hour review from last year. This review contains several elements that were cut for time last time around, some more controversial elements that I'm sure I'll regret talking about, some things that have come up since last time, and some things that commenters had brought up that needed to be addressed. I also fixed some minor mistakes and cleaned up the voice over. Was the length necessary? Yes, because I'd rather make a 4 hour review for something I love rather than eleven 20 minute reviews for games I don't care about.
Your an inspiration to me when it comes to being a Critic ,TGX :) . I got agree with everything you say ,But that's healthy . I absolutely see you as one of the best TH-camrs on the Platform
You know what RPG you may like if you can get past the anime tropes and appreciate the story, Tales of Symphonia, or just the tales series in general. The gameplay is way more action heavy than traditional rpgs. You may also like indvisible as well.
I too have that same itch. This game was my introduction to video games (by my dad). We play it once a year together as a tradition. Started at age 4 and I'm turning 25 this May. Wow, how time flies.
My headcanon has always been that young Dart was found by Master Tasman who took him to Seles so the boy would be safe and to train him. This explains how his mentor knew Dart's mission to kill the Monster. If he knew it all along, he would have been able to prepare the boy for the dangerous mission.
I have always thought that dart somehow wandered to seles and met his master there. they grew closer and he opened up on why he wanted to learn how to fight.
I always liked that Albert is one of the few kings in RPGS, that puts himself directly on the front lines. Not much characterization, but that alone makes me really like him.
TGX awhile a go a saw on twitter you posted "what is your favorite TGX moment, I need to know i havent wasted 1,000s of hours doing this" My favorite moment is and will always be the next one. Because I can count on you. Youre a friend, and an inspiration Purely because your dedication to the things you love.
I love legend of dragoon, I loved the original 3 hour review and here I am back again for the 4 hour extended edition. This is truly the ultimate LoD review and everyone should watch this video.
You did a fantastic job making this incredibly comprehensive review of the greatest game of all time! Also - I like that sequel plot idea of Soa emerging. Once again, awesome job. Been playing this masterpiece since 2000.
I realy dont know if i should watch this. It 3 hours i already seen and 30 minutes of new content. Its the legend of dragoon so i am just going to watch it
@@MakaiKishiZero the extended version mostly goes over previous details in more depth and adds a few new topics to talk about, for example in the non extended video TGX entirely discredits the soul eater for dart because it drains his health, here in the extended version he states that the therapy ring helps counter the soul eaters health drain instead of leaving it being discredited
I wanna make note of something, Which has always made me wounder about the Moon Child, originally the intended soul of the Moon Child was not meant to be Melbu Frahma, but rather Shana. Who is probably the gentlest and mind kind soul in the game. Which makes me wounder if the Moon Child was not necessarily destruction. Our main source of information about the Moon Child is also Melbu Frahma... who is far from reliable. It's possible the Moon Child was meant to judge the world, which could mean destruction, or some kind of enlightenment. Thus the source of the two prophecies , with Melbu and the Winglies actions pretty much making their version of the prophecy a inevitable one. Though it has been a while sense I played the game, so I could be forgetting something. Regardless, it's just a thought that occurs to me based on Shana's personality, I doubt it was the interpretation of the writers. There is an idea of a "Gentle Destroyer" in a lot of Japanese media...
I've been playing this game on and off since its release. I remember the first exposure I had to this game was on a PSX demo disc and it left me completely hooked. I just stumbled across this review because I, too, just got that "itch randomly to play Legend of Dragoon again." Masterpiece, 100%.
About the housewife thing... Anyone who thinks being a housewife or being a "good housewife" is a bad thing, has obviously never been a housewife. Do you have any clue how hard that job is? It's not for the weak that's for sure. It's not for the dumb either. Here's a short list of just SOME of the things my wife does while I'm working 55-60 hours a week. Kids. All day. Hope I don't have to expand on that, it's self explanatory. Cleaning. Bills Shopping Organizing Budgeting Planning Cooking Meal plan Kids. I say it again cuz it's really an all day ordeal. Cleaning. I say it again because once again, with kids, it's an all day ordeal Snow removal Home repair. Sinks, water heater, stuff that can be done that are on the smaller side Appointments I know I'm forgetting at least a dozen more things. But this list doesn't even include her own basic needs. And before y'all get bent out of shape. Yes, of course I help her. If I'm not at work, I'm doing one or more of the things listed. My only point, is that housewife is not some pity job given to the weak or useless or something. It's seriously exhausting, and I could not do it. I could tryz and I have, but what my wife does is absolutely amazing and inspiring
This game holds up so well to this day. Even on PS1, even compressed. I really want the toyline. Also picked up the soundtrack after watching this video. This is literally the best comprehensive Legend of Dragoon video on TH-cam.
So, I watched your original about a year ago. And then I saw this one pop up on the field because I haven’t watched one of your videos in a while. And I listen to the entire thing again, it was just as awesome as I remember. It took me a day or so as I listen to it in between drives. But it was really really amazing to have a unseen and on physical connection with someone who care just as deeply about a game that I care about. Honestly this game created not only my childhood bye my expectations for a future games with stories. And weird way this game kind of jaded me. I was so damn good, only Skyrim has even come remotely close to living up to how much fun iVe had. And I think my favorite part, is when you touched on the end, where the glass was on the desk next to Lavitz Portrait. I actually didn’t know that. It did not click in my brain. I have been in this game at least 20 times in my life, maybe more and I’ve been playing literally since it’s launch week. And I never do that, as soon as I heard you say that to be honest I cried a little bit and I had to pull over. Just so damn sweet, and spent so long not knowing such an amazing fact about my favorite game. So not only am I acting like a fruitcake about some bond with another human being I’ve never met, I just overly admired the amount of time you put into this, how it was very tasteful and the right amount of comedy with used. Sometimes it can be over done, that’s why I hate Marvel movies. So I want to say thank you, for making this, as it almost feels like he made it for me. I also want to congratulate you on how good and touching it was, and how hard you work. And I also want to say, please make more. Eh what the hell, we should totally hang. JK? We can listen to metal(I think blind guardian /boltthrower/ Sonata Arctica go well with this game) all day and play
This game holds a special place for me as well. I always say this game turned from a casual young gamer into a hardcore gamer-for-life. I still go back every other year or so and play it again (probably at about 8-10 playthroughs at this point including earlier this year). I love almost everything about it and was my all time favorite game for a long time (only got passed up in the last couple years by Witcher 3). I live in a smallish town in a rural county. My younger brother and I discovered this game as a demo at Walmart in 2000 and I instantly fell in love with it. Got it that Christmas and became a life-long fan. The only downside was my brother and I were essentially the only ones in town who knew of the game. And for the longest time, I knew practically no other fans of the game. It's been nice to find other die-hard fans through videos like this, talking about their love for this game, warts and all. (Seriously though, I find it's quirky dialogue endearing but that 32 item limit can go straight to hell. That's my #1 fix for a remake.) This video perfectly encapsulated why I love this game. Thanks for making. I enjoyed it.
The item limit is meant for not rendering the defense/healing mechanic useless. It was a very purposeful choice. 32 is more than enough, I never have problems, but I sell items constantly too.
my favorite game of all time! you definitely did it justice. never in a million years would i sit through a three hour youtube vid but today thats changed, you did amazing TGX!!
Favorite game ever. Only issues I had with it: 1. Loading time! 2. The power balance is poorly done for human vs dragoon form. As you state, late in the game it’s often much worse to be a dragoon, either an item use option or change back to human would really help, but they should be dealing way more damage in dragoon form. 3. Shanas lack of additions
Remake would be better graphics, same combat system, updated dialog, change of weapons, actual sidequests, 4 or 5 extra villages that may help the optional characters background, 50 item slots
So to start, very good video! Well worth the watch! There are a couple items I want to address. You're not the first to not know how to pronounce Mille Seseau. While "seseau" is not a real French word, it follows French spelling rules and "mille" means "1000," so chances are it's "Meal Sess-oh." "Eau" means water, but it's probably coincidental since unless their intent was to call it "Thousand Their Water" and pronounce it "Meal Say-zoh." It would be a slop translation at best. Rose's Additions and weaponry are a little less innuendo-driven than her animations. People generally accept that she uses "fencing swords," but this isn't strictly true. Her weaponry, including the Demon Stiletto, are best recognized as mostly daggers and shortswords, except the Flamberge, which is a 2-handed sword, but far from the only "flame blade" or wavy blade in general worldwide, with others including a perhaps more appropriate kris. A stiletto is a hard, short blade that's neither a dagger nor knife, more like a nail with a handle, that was used for a coup de grace, or basically a mercy killing of a fallen knight by stabbing him in the eye through his helmet visor. Whip Smack, in keeping with her actual weapon model, and Hard Blade after, is most likely in reference to Chinese hard whips, which are more or less batons that use ridges or spheres for additional striking and blocking power. They're a totally awesome weapon that are criminally underrepresented in media, often adorned with dragon heads where the handle connects to the business end, which is totally appropriate for the game as well. While some of this may fall to translation for what her weapon qualifies as, the intent is to convey that she's using her weaponry as a striking weapon for that hit, even though her technique otherwise does focus heavily on piercing. That's all I've got, really. I never thought I'd sit through a darn near 4-hour video, but this was totally worth it!
@@valor1omega I’m playing on ps4 now and the “rewind” feature really helps with learning additions, it’s also great for doing the pirate ship chest puzzle (just rewind if you input the wrong number and try again, free of punishment). I’ve never done that chest before and the reward sells for a sweet 5k (I’m Japanese so I play the Japanese version) Cheers bud
The legend of dragoon has a very special place in my heart, no matter how many games I play with stories and characters I fall in love with this one never gets knocked out of my top 5. it has its flaws, but this story and these characters are timeless to me.
I will always cherish this game as it was the first game I really fell in love with when I was in Jr high early 2000s. As I've grown older, I have only continued to appreciate the story of this game more and more. I love this story, as it flows from simply rescuing your close friend, to fighting in a war, and escalates all the way to stopping the end of the world. And while end of the world scenarios have been done a hundred times over, this games story has a uniqueness to it in its art style and world building that really make it stand out to me.
Thank you for making this. It's a beautiful love letter to a beautiful game. The effort and sheer amount of content you put into this is stunning. I'm not sure why I hadn't come across your channel until now and while I can't imagine you put anything close to this amount of effort into all your reviews, it'd be criminal not to subscribe to something this good. Thank you.
3:13:15 I believe that the seventh seal could be interpreted as Moot, which was created by Savan to seal the God of Destruction's body, like the Signet Spheres. Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed it and love seeing someone still playing this game today.
Fun fact about Shana and her Dragoon Armor. Her armor is very different from Shirley and Miranda's who have similar armors and the same color scheme....but there is a story reason for that. Shana is cheating with her status as the Moon Child to wield the White-Silver Dragoon spirit, which is why her armor is so different and has aqua blue accents for the armor and her wings are aqua blue and sea green. It is also the reason why the White-Silver Dragoon Spirit jumps ship to Miranda so fast, because it never chose Shana, she unconsciously made the spirit work for her with her latent powers
Once again absolutely fantastic. I'm going to retread a bit on my comment from your previous version of the review and talk about how you and I have virtually the same passion for our respective games. For me, I feel almost exactly as you do with Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. The story, characters, graphics, music, gameplay, all the fidelity and finesse is there for me to enjoy. It's a game I love playing to 100% completion, going throughout every nook and cranny in Dracula's Castle and getting all the items and leveling up Alucard. The level of detail in the story, animations, graphics, etc always never cease to amaze me, and the intro even engages me every single time. Now compared to The Legend of Dragoon, Symphony I don't believe has nearly anywhere near as much depth as it obviously, BUT I still have the same love and passion for that game as you do with this. Every now and again I have an itch to play it from start to finish and still love it no matter how many times I play it. It's something I NEVER get tired of. And just like you, every time I read up on the game or play it once more, I'm always discovering new things whether it be items, details in the environment, and so on. The song that you had playing during your epilogue of the review even reminded me of "I Am the Wind" a little bit. Both games definitely have biblical themes tied to them, I mean Castlevania is all about demons and good versus evil so that's more of a no brainer. Bottom line, both have a strong passionate fanbase behind them and both were clearly made with care and love from their respective developers. Throughout watching this review, I started to feel an itch to finally try out The Legend of Dragoon. I am not a fan of RPG, especially JRPGs whatsoever, unless you count Pokemon, but I am intrigued enough to play this once and for all. Plus owning a four disc game would go great with my PS1 collection. You've outdone yourself again, keep up the good content, you are one of the only good youtubers left that seems to give a shit about what they provide and not consumed by the drama around them. God bless you, and your channel!
I'ma few minutes in and considering you're not a big jrpg fan and you made a 3 hr 44 min video on my favorite jrpg I can tell you love it I'm gonna sit here and watch this and just know I'm super excited to see your take cause I truly love this game
I 100 percent agree that a good way to remake LOD would be to do a combo game where you play as BOTH the current dragoons and the Dragon campaign dragoons. Being a HUGE fan of Legacy of Kain soul reaver, I would love for the quest lines to start very disconnected and for you to not even understand that you are playing in two different timelines. I always believed with a talented and creative writing staff you could make a double timeline game out of LOD be just as satisfying, if not more satisfying than the double timeline story telling of LoK SR
Hey @TGX Game Reviews, just wanted to give you a tid bit of info that might be interest!! In Donau there is a bar, and in it a Minintos ACTUALLY hints at the Golden Dragoon spirit in Lohan. He asks if you bought your “shiny stones” in Lohan. Talk a second time and he downright says he saw one at a stand in Lohan. Just figured you’d like to know! Great video, great game.
Y'know I kind of find this funny and Ironic , because alot of Japanese E.g Atlus when they port a game , they tend to enhance it with new Mechanics and Story arcs while fixing flaws of the Original game and it seems you've done that right here with your Magnum-Opus Video !
I'm afraid I have to call you out on the Shana pronunciation; to pronounce it like you do, there would need to be a 'u' or 'w' after the first 'a.' The correct way to say Shana for this game is similar to how you pronounce chandelier; I've met people with this way of saying it so I know it's possible. And I know you showed the cutscene where Dart says it your way, but that is exclusive to the English dub; the Japanese version of Dart's line uses my version... sorta. The ENG translation for this game can be a bit scuffed at times, so I think it was just a misinterpretation by the VA. And that doesn't even take her Japanese name into consideration; when written out, her name is シェーナ, which sounds like Shayna. It's also pronounced this way by Zieg in that final scene and I can sometimes hear it in Dart's pronunciation too. EDIT: A detail about Shana's stats; her high Magic Attack is not just useful in her Dragoon form. The damage of magic items is partly based on the Magic Attack stat of the character that used it. With hers being so high, it's smart to have her be the only person that uses those items.
Shana/Miranda give her therapy ring and she heals herself. I built my team around Dart, Rose, and Shana where additions are still the main part of my game play. I think it's because I like having a pure healer on my team. I really don't see how Shana/Miranda dies for you so quickly when for me AL and the old man always die while Shana/Miranda rarely dies.
I just wanna hear Albert talking to Lloyd in the throne room about plans for the civil war and Lloyd's just spouting off some stuff about how Doel has a power that has the ability to sway the tides of war and change the course of history (talking about his Dragoon spirit) and Albert just kinda goes "I like your funny words, magic man"
You say that by not using magic you’ll have more fun as of that’s a fact that everyone enjoys this game the same. I personally love stomping enemies into nothing with overpowered magic while seeing insane damage numbers pop up while still having tons of time to perfect and use additions so that may be rather presumptuous of you.
I wasn't sure if I agreed with you on the phrasing you brought up around 2:56:10, but then I read "I'm glad to receive your fist, Master," and had to do a double-take.
Can you make another 3hr review of this game? This is the 3rd time I've watched this video and like, it's like listening to an interesting podcast that I could listen to forever. I loved this game even though I never got past the ghost ship as a kid, and when I fully beaten it when I was 18, I was in love with it.
This was a wonderful video Legend of Dragoon is one of my favorite games of all time. I beat Legend of Dragoon twice now my favorite Team to use is Kongol and Albert. It will probably be my yearly replay game
Came here looking to find real opinions on my favorite game of all time. And I gotta say, you definitely earned a like man. Really helped me through my shift, and brought a few watery eye moments with the nostalgia. Legend of Dragoon is truly a special game to me, and every time I play it my love grows. I don’t want much, just something in the land of Endiness. And GOD do I miss that website 🤣🤣 So many middle school hours lost on that site. Rewatching FMVs, watching addition and Dragoon videos. Good times
To your point about losing addition timing at 24:00 I SWEAR the same thing happened to me as well, it’s as if the addition window gets shifted ever so slightly away from the feedback you’re getting on the squares on screen. It’s very difficult to explain without playing but I know exactly what you mean
It would have been amazing if you had an addition menu in combat so you could select the one you want and that each addition had a type of advantage to use, for example element type, recharges mp etc. Btw Shana/Miranda’s dragoon was OP with ring that restored MP
3 years later on this video, I always feel that urge to play. It's a game I can ALWAYS pick up and play. I've always ran through, never seen how beautiful it is.
There's certain cheats you can use to remove party members btw. I did a play through of level 1 dragoon and level 5 additions with just Dart and Lavitz in the party
Thank you so much for this review, I really enjoyed it :) At 1:39:26 you talk about random encounters and how they change from place to place. I think the only place that comes to my mind where it is significantly lower is in Zenebatos. But are there other places confirmed lower encounter? I saw somewhere that you get 4x encounter rate when running downwards or left than when running forward or to the right. I tried it on my last playthrough, it seems accurate. I also think the music soundtrack is something else entirely, it is extremely good and there is not a single track I dislike. But I will have to be honest when I say that your favourite is my least favourite from the game haha. I think the boss themes are amazing, I think it is great that they have 3 battle themes instead of just 1 like certain ff games (hint hint). One thing though about the boss themes is that the bosses don't always match the boss themes. That's no fault of the soundtrack, but the gameplay itself. For example, boss theme is obviously suppposed to be the easier bosses and for the most part it is true. Second boss theme sounds more serious, and should be predisposed to tougher fights, particulary boss fights that are impactful on the story. For the most part it does. The third boss fight sounds very serious and should only be used on the toughest bosses like the Faust. I think they use it too much in the game, and several of those bosses it is used on do not match the super epic theme it presents. I think each overworld map theme is exellently composed, and when entering the world map in disc 2 you really feel like you have entered an entirely different zone. Same with disc 3 world map and disc 4 world map music. My 3 favourite tracks from the game has to be: 1. Boss theme 3 (Especially when the boss matches the theme for example when fighting Emperor Doel, The magician Faust and the Virages "if the Virages were more difficult that is") 2. Ending theme 3. Darts theme There's so many honourable mentions in the soundtrack that nearly the entire soundtrack is an honourable mention :)
I love how you came to your "optimal" team and it's Albert, Dart and Haschel. This is the team composition I have ALWAYS used. But I also grind out max lvl and max dragoon lvl. Small tip on the final boss, if you use your Special Dragoon transformation right off the bat, you usually get most of your turns before he nerfs dragons. Maybe have one turn left on all characters. I can usually get through P1 and P2 pretty easily and then smash additions after that. Easy peasy.
50:48 small unsolicited correction. The city of Troy definitely existed. It WAS lost to time and considered to be completely legendary, but it was actually found and excavated starting in the 1870s
I remember the first time I played this game, I was stuck at Indels Castle in Bale for like 2 weeks. I mean, I was 7. Just cuz I couldn't see there was more stairs(on top of stairs you just came through) that you had to take to get to the throne room. There was a few more things like that, but that's the one that stuck with me the most.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this video. It, too has made me want to boot up LOD again on my PS5. I still remember how hype I was when we defeated Lloyd for good for the first time. I was so excited thinking not only would we get to then use the Divine Dragon Spirit, but also be able to experience Lloyd as a playable character in the party. 😩 It was still cool to see Dart use it though after the Fire Spirit returned to his father towards the end of the game. Also couldn’t agree more with how well this soundtrack was composed. The forbidden battle theme, #2 boss theme, and the major boss theme were hands down my favorite of all though. And Lloyd’s theme.
This is also my favorite game. I hope we get a remaster soon. I still have my ps1 discs, but it would be nice to play it without getting out my ps2. Such a perfect game.
I need to scramble for my ps2 controller+adapter so I can fetch an emulator online and replay this game only to revisit the Praire shack! I loved this video
This game had no business having a soundtrack as good as it was but none of us fans are complaining. Battle soundtrack #2, Boss theme #2, “Reminiscence,” Forbidden Land Battle theme and the Major boss theme are my favorites 🙏🏾
i played the games through 3 times in a row just to test it with every charakter back in 2001 an to this day is my most favorite psx titel of all time thanks for the video realy brings me back
Hey, for your next play through try out the Hell mode mod. Zychronix has a bit of a showcase on his channel. Apparently the community has been getting active attempting to mod the game after they data mined everything out of it. Like the epic bucket icon. It is what I plan to do for my next playthrough.
Since this video has picked up in viewership over the past weeks, I'll let new viewers know, TGX Game Reviews is long dead and I have a NEW channel. So if you wish to find me, you can find me here.
youtube.com/@tbp?si=6tiRCQEyH8yvtHxH
Otherwise, don't subscribe to TGX, you wont get anything out of it.
Im glad even you cam enjoy one of the best JRPGs ever made, but boy, listening to you saying: "i recently replayed final fantasy 9 and theres so much talk i was 4 hours in and only played for one hour" makes you Sound like a 5 year old with ADHD😂
1:59:05 Did you really just degrade an entire nation overseas by calling anime 'Trash?' Buddy, you've never even made anything CLOSE to as good as Anime, & All bets point that you and others like you NEVER being able to. Ha.. +
@onojioboardwalk9748 he says with tears in his eyes, clutching his crusty body pillow.
Yes, this is an extended edition to my 3 hour review from last year. This review contains several elements that were cut for time last time around, some more controversial elements that I'm sure I'll regret talking about, some things that have come up since last time, and some things that commenters had brought up that needed to be addressed. I also fixed some minor mistakes and cleaned up the voice over. Was the length necessary? Yes, because I'd rather make a 4 hour review for something I love rather than eleven 20 minute reviews for games I don't care about.
Your an inspiration to me when it comes to being a Critic ,TGX :) . I got agree with everything you say ,But that's healthy . I absolutely see you as one of the best TH-camrs on the Platform
"You tell me we can start the rain!"
I loved the first review and I'm sure I'll love this one even more. We appreciate the content man
You know what RPG you may like if you can get past the anime tropes and appreciate the story, Tales of Symphonia, or just the tales series in general. The gameplay is way more action heavy than traditional rpgs. You may also like indvisible as well.
I'm sure this will be some of best 3 and a half hours I can possibly spend. You aren't alone in your passion for this wonderful game!
I hate when content creators pad out their videos just to hit that 10 minute mark.
Best joke here 😂
Yeah that whole 3 and a half hours of padding to hit that 10 minutes 😂😂😂
He speaks so slowly too, smh.. why does he make it so obvious that he’s trying to stretch the video to 10 minutes
@@SLEEPY_AL yes the last ten minutes of the video duh :p
This is so unoriginal
"Can we take a moment to appreciate how beautiful these landscapes are?"
*Cuts to Dart jumping across a fucking volcano as jovial music plays.*
I too have that same itch. This game was my introduction to video games (by my dad). We play it once a year together as a tradition. Started at age 4 and I'm turning 25 this May. Wow, how time flies.
I remember playing this back in grade 8 2003 & was the best experience of my life. Legend of Dragoon is a wild ride & helliva adventure.
My headcanon has always been that young Dart was found by Master Tasman who took him to Seles so the boy would be safe and to train him. This explains how his mentor knew Dart's mission to kill the Monster. If he knew it all along, he would have been able to prepare the boy for the dangerous mission.
Now I want to draw it! New headcanon for me =3
I have always thought that dart somehow wandered to seles and met his master there. they grew closer and he opened up on why he wanted to learn how to fight.
I always liked that Albert is one of the few kings in RPGS, that puts himself directly on the front lines. Not much characterization, but that alone makes me really like him.
Yeah and the way he doesn’t get on his knees when on low health
Lavitz dying sucked but Albert acknowledge it and joined the team in his place....and the combos changed. I really liked that touch
@@jaliscoyguerrero wow if that's true then excellent observation. I've played this game several times.
When Lavitiz died it hit me far harder than when Aerth died.
I've been playing this game for nearly 20 years and I STILL learned a lot of things from this video. Take my thumbs up, sir. Edit: also nice shirt
I lost my copy when my dad gave it to my cousins kids back in high school. How was the total gameplay?
@@harrisn3693 dude I'll help you play it emulated just lmk and I can help
XENOGEARS and Legend of Dragoon needs a remaster
TGX awhile a go a saw on twitter you posted "what is your favorite TGX moment, I need to know i havent wasted 1,000s of hours doing this"
My favorite moment is and will always be the next one.
Because I can count on you.
Youre a friend, and an inspiration
Purely because your dedication to the things you love.
I love legend of dragoon, I loved the original 3 hour review and here I am back again for the 4 hour extended edition. This is truly the ultimate LoD review and everyone should watch this video.
You did a fantastic job making this incredibly comprehensive review of the greatest game of all time! Also - I like that sequel plot idea of Soa emerging. Once again, awesome job. Been playing this masterpiece since 2000.
Right as I start my second playthrough on my copy that just came in the mail.
This time I'm doing everything
I realy dont know if i should watch this. It 3 hours i already seen and 30 minutes of new content. Its the legend of dragoon so i am just going to watch it
An extended edition? Don't mind if I do!
Gimmie the Bat, Marge!
Can you tell me the differences between the 2 versions? Cause I'm watching the original now and I'm not sure i want to sit through both versions
@@MakaiKishiZero the extended version mostly goes over previous details in more depth and adds a few new topics to talk about, for example in the non extended video TGX entirely discredits the soul eater for dart because it drains his health, here in the extended version he states that the therapy ring helps counter the soul eaters health drain instead of leaving it being discredited
I wanna make note of something, Which has always made me wounder about the Moon Child, originally the intended soul of the Moon Child was not meant to be Melbu Frahma, but rather Shana. Who is probably the gentlest and mind kind soul in the game. Which makes me wounder if the Moon Child was not necessarily destruction. Our main source of information about the Moon Child is also Melbu Frahma... who is far from reliable. It's possible the Moon Child was meant to judge the world, which could mean destruction, or some kind of enlightenment. Thus the source of the two prophecies , with Melbu and the Winglies actions pretty much making their version of the prophecy a inevitable one.
Though it has been a while sense I played the game, so I could be forgetting something. Regardless, it's just a thought that occurs to me based on Shana's personality, I doubt it was the interpretation of the writers. There is an idea of a "Gentle Destroyer" in a lot of Japanese media...
I appreciate you time stamping it so I can watch it episodically. More long form vids should do that. 😁
I've been playing this game on and off since its release. I remember the first exposure I had to this game was on a PSX demo disc and it left me completely hooked.
I just stumbled across this review because I, too, just got that "itch randomly to play Legend of Dragoon again." Masterpiece, 100%.
About the housewife thing...
Anyone who thinks being a housewife or being a "good housewife" is a bad thing, has obviously never been a housewife.
Do you have any clue how hard that job is? It's not for the weak that's for sure. It's not for the dumb either. Here's a short list of just SOME of the things my wife does while I'm working 55-60 hours a week.
Kids. All day. Hope I don't have to expand on that, it's self explanatory.
Cleaning.
Bills
Shopping
Organizing
Budgeting
Planning
Cooking
Meal plan
Kids. I say it again cuz it's really an all day ordeal.
Cleaning. I say it again because once again, with kids, it's an all day ordeal
Snow removal
Home repair. Sinks, water heater, stuff that can be done that are on the smaller side
Appointments
I know I'm forgetting at least a dozen more things. But this list doesn't even include her own basic needs.
And before y'all get bent out of shape. Yes, of course I help her. If I'm not at work, I'm doing one or more of the things listed.
My only point, is that housewife is not some pity job given to the weak or useless or something. It's seriously exhausting, and I could not do it. I could tryz and I have, but what my wife does is absolutely amazing and inspiring
i hope she sees this bro
This game holds up so well to this day. Even on PS1, even compressed. I really want the toyline. Also picked up the soundtrack after watching this video. This is literally the best comprehensive Legend of Dragoon video on TH-cam.
So, I watched your original about a year ago. And then I saw this one pop up on the field because I haven’t watched one of your videos in a while. And I listen to the entire thing again, it was just as awesome as I remember. It took me a day or so as I listen to it in between drives. But it was really really amazing to have a unseen and on physical connection with someone who care just as deeply about a game that I care about. Honestly this game created not only my childhood bye my expectations for a future games with stories. And weird way this game kind of jaded me. I was so damn good, only Skyrim has even come remotely close to living up to how much fun iVe had. And I think my favorite part, is when you touched on the end, where the glass was on the desk next to Lavitz Portrait. I actually didn’t know that. It did not click in my brain. I have been in this game at least 20 times in my life, maybe more and I’ve been playing literally since it’s launch week. And I never do that, as soon as I heard you say that to be honest I cried a little bit and I had to pull over. Just so damn sweet, and spent so long not knowing such an amazing fact about my favorite game.
So not only am I acting like a fruitcake about some bond with another human being I’ve never met, I just overly admired the amount of time you put into this, how it was very tasteful and the right amount of comedy with used. Sometimes it can be over done, that’s why I hate Marvel movies. So I want to say thank you, for making this, as it almost feels like he made it for me. I also want to congratulate you on how good and touching it was, and how hard you work. And I also want to say, please make more.
Eh what the hell, we should totally hang. JK? We can listen to metal(I think blind guardian /boltthrower/ Sonata Arctica go well with this game) all day and play
This game holds a special place for me as well. I always say this game turned from a casual young gamer into a hardcore gamer-for-life. I still go back every other year or so and play it again (probably at about 8-10 playthroughs at this point including earlier this year). I love almost everything about it and was my all time favorite game for a long time (only got passed up in the last couple years by Witcher 3).
I live in a smallish town in a rural county. My younger brother and I discovered this game as a demo at Walmart in 2000 and I instantly fell in love with it. Got it that Christmas and became a life-long fan. The only downside was my brother and I were essentially the only ones in town who knew of the game. And for the longest time, I knew practically no other fans of the game.
It's been nice to find other die-hard fans through videos like this, talking about their love for this game, warts and all. (Seriously though, I find it's quirky dialogue endearing but that 32 item limit can go straight to hell. That's my #1 fix for a remake.) This video perfectly encapsulated why I love this game. Thanks for making. I enjoyed it.
I looked earlier mmfans have a mod for to use with emulator that increased the limit
The item limit is meant for not rendering the defense/healing mechanic useless. It was a very purposeful choice. 32 is more than enough, I never have problems, but I sell items constantly too.
I love legend of dragoon, xenogears, suikoden 1&2 and chrono cross. Ps1 was amazing.
my favorite game of all time! you definitely did it justice. never in a million years would i sit through a three hour youtube vid but today thats changed, you did amazing TGX!!
Favorite game ever. Only issues I had with it:
1. Loading time!
2. The power balance is poorly done for human vs dragoon form. As you state, late in the game it’s often much worse to be a dragoon, either an item use option or change back to human would really help, but they should be dealing way more damage in dragoon form.
3. Shanas lack of additions
Remake would be better graphics, same combat system, updated dialog, change of weapons, actual sidequests, 4 or 5 extra villages that may help the optional characters background, 50 item slots
So to start, very good video! Well worth the watch! There are a couple items I want to address.
You're not the first to not know how to pronounce Mille Seseau. While "seseau" is not a real French word, it follows French spelling rules and "mille" means "1000," so chances are it's "Meal Sess-oh." "Eau" means water, but it's probably coincidental since unless their intent was to call it "Thousand Their Water" and pronounce it "Meal Say-zoh." It would be a slop translation at best.
Rose's Additions and weaponry are a little less innuendo-driven than her animations. People generally accept that she uses "fencing swords," but this isn't strictly true. Her weaponry, including the Demon Stiletto, are best recognized as mostly daggers and shortswords, except the Flamberge, which is a 2-handed sword, but far from the only "flame blade" or wavy blade in general worldwide, with others including a perhaps more appropriate kris. A stiletto is a hard, short blade that's neither a dagger nor knife, more like a nail with a handle, that was used for a coup de grace, or basically a mercy killing of a fallen knight by stabbing him in the eye through his helmet visor. Whip Smack, in keeping with her actual weapon model, and Hard Blade after, is most likely in reference to Chinese hard whips, which are more or less batons that use ridges or spheres for additional striking and blocking power. They're a totally awesome weapon that are criminally underrepresented in media, often adorned with dragon heads where the handle connects to the business end, which is totally appropriate for the game as well. While some of this may fall to translation for what her weapon qualifies as, the intent is to convey that she's using her weaponry as a striking weapon for that hit, even though her technique otherwise does focus heavily on piercing.
That's all I've got, really. I never thought I'd sit through a darn near 4-hour video, but this was totally worth it!
I hope they do a remaster that would be amazing that way everyone can fall in love with this game and it can finally get the love it deserves
No remaster yet but they are on PS4/PS5 now.
@@valor1omega I’m playing on ps4 now and the “rewind” feature really helps with learning additions, it’s also great for doing the pirate ship chest puzzle (just rewind if you input the wrong number and try again, free of punishment). I’ve never done that chest before and the reward sells for a sweet 5k (I’m Japanese so I play the Japanese version)
Cheers bud
The legend of dragoon has a very special place in my heart, no matter how many games I play with stories and characters I fall in love with this one never gets knocked out of my top 5. it has its flaws, but this story and these characters are timeless to me.
I will always cherish this game as it was the first game I really fell in love with when I was in Jr high early 2000s. As I've grown older, I have only continued to appreciate the story of this game more and more. I love this story, as it flows from simply rescuing your close friend, to fighting in a war, and escalates all the way to stopping the end of the world. And while end of the world scenarios have been done a hundred times over, this games story has a uniqueness to it in its art style and world building that really make it stand out to me.
Good job! Appreciate the time stamps as well, 11/10, have watched both of these!
Damn, that's commitment. Probably won't have the time to watch this one any time soon, but I'll definitely get around to it.
Thank you for making this. It's a beautiful love letter to a beautiful game. The effort and sheer amount of content you put into this is stunning. I'm not sure why I hadn't come across your channel until now and while I can't imagine you put anything close to this amount of effort into all your reviews, it'd be criminal not to subscribe to something this good. Thank you.
Doesn't matter how tropey it is if it's the first adventure story you ever experienced.
3:13:15 I believe that the seventh seal could be interpreted as Moot, which was created by Savan to seal the God of Destruction's body, like the Signet Spheres.
Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed it and love seeing someone still playing this game today.
Fun fact about Shana and her Dragoon Armor. Her armor is very different from Shirley and Miranda's who have similar armors and the same color scheme....but there is a story reason for that.
Shana is cheating with her status as the Moon Child to wield the White-Silver Dragoon spirit, which is why her armor is so different and has aqua blue accents for the armor and her wings are aqua blue and sea green.
It is also the reason why the White-Silver Dragoon Spirit jumps ship to Miranda so fast, because it never chose Shana, she unconsciously made the spirit work for her with her latent powers
Loved the video, you earned yourself a subscriber man. I can feel the heart in this.
This is the game that make more impact in me, my favourite ever, i have pass it 8 times, and i want to play it again.
Once again absolutely fantastic. I'm going to retread a bit on my comment from your previous version of the review and talk about how you and I have virtually the same passion for our respective games.
For me, I feel almost exactly as you do with Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. The story, characters, graphics, music, gameplay, all the fidelity and finesse is there for me to enjoy. It's a game I love playing to 100% completion, going throughout every nook and cranny in Dracula's Castle and getting all the items and leveling up Alucard. The level of detail in the story, animations, graphics, etc always never cease to amaze me, and the intro even engages me every single time. Now compared to The Legend of Dragoon, Symphony I don't believe has nearly anywhere near as much depth as it obviously, BUT I still have the same love and passion for that game as you do with this. Every now and again I have an itch to play it from start to finish and still love it no matter how many times I play it. It's something I NEVER get tired of. And just like you, every time I read up on the game or play it once more, I'm always discovering new things whether it be items, details in the environment, and so on. The song that you had playing during your epilogue of the review even reminded me of "I Am the Wind" a little bit. Both games definitely have biblical themes tied to them, I mean Castlevania is all about demons and good versus evil so that's more of a no brainer.
Bottom line, both have a strong passionate fanbase behind them and both were clearly made with care and love from their respective developers. Throughout watching this review, I started to feel an itch to finally try out The Legend of Dragoon. I am not a fan of RPG, especially JRPGs whatsoever, unless you count Pokemon, but I am intrigued enough to play this once and for all. Plus owning a four disc game would go great with my PS1 collection. You've outdone yourself again, keep up the good content, you are one of the only good youtubers left that seems to give a shit about what they provide and not consumed by the drama around them. God bless you, and your channel!
You did an excellent job! I enjoyed all of the details and I laughed at your humor throughout! Thank you
I'ma few minutes in and considering you're not a big jrpg fan and you made a 3 hr 44 min video on my favorite jrpg I can tell you love it I'm gonna sit here and watch this and just know I'm super excited to see your take cause I truly love this game
Great video man ! The 2:33:09 Popo think killed me ! :D
I 100 percent agree that a good way to remake LOD would be to do a combo game where you play as BOTH the current dragoons and the Dragon campaign dragoons. Being a HUGE fan of Legacy of Kain soul reaver, I would love for the quest lines to start very disconnected and for you to not even understand that you are playing in two different timelines. I always believed with a talented and creative writing staff you could make a double timeline game out of LOD be just as satisfying, if not more satisfying than the double timeline story telling of LoK SR
Didn't you once use Shana screaming from being electrocuted as a ringtone or is my memory wrong?
Hey @TGX Game Reviews, just wanted to give you a tid bit of info that might be interest!! In Donau there is a bar, and in it a Minintos ACTUALLY hints at the Golden Dragoon spirit in Lohan. He asks if you bought your “shiny stones” in Lohan. Talk a second time and he downright says he saw one at a stand in Lohan. Just figured you’d like to know! Great video, great game.
i just finished the 3 hour review that was posted last year then saw this just now lol this is the longest and most satisfying review so far
LoD was a masterpiece, and you good sir have made an equally masterful retrospective. Bravo 👏 👏
Honestly this is such a comprehensive look at every aspect that made LoD amazing and the things that held it back. This was a great insight.
Y'know I kind of find this funny and Ironic , because alot of Japanese E.g Atlus when they port a game , they tend to enhance it with new Mechanics and Story arcs while fixing flaws of the Original game and it seems you've done that right here with your Magnum-Opus Video !
I'm afraid I have to call you out on the Shana pronunciation; to pronounce it like you do, there would need to be a 'u' or 'w' after the first 'a.' The correct way to say Shana for this game is similar to how you pronounce chandelier; I've met people with this way of saying it so I know it's possible. And I know you showed the cutscene where Dart says it your way, but that is exclusive to the English dub; the Japanese version of Dart's line uses my version... sorta. The ENG translation for this game can be a bit scuffed at times, so I think it was just a misinterpretation by the VA.
And that doesn't even take her Japanese name into consideration; when written out, her name is シェーナ, which sounds like Shayna. It's also pronounced this way by Zieg in that final scene and I can sometimes hear it in Dart's pronunciation too.
EDIT: A detail about Shana's stats; her high Magic Attack is not just useful in her Dragoon form. The damage of magic items is partly based on the Magic Attack stat of the character that used it. With hers being so high, it's smart to have her be the only person that uses those items.
You did this game justice in this review. Best LoD video on TH-cam
Shana/Miranda give her therapy ring and she heals herself.
I built my team around Dart, Rose, and Shana where additions are still the main part of my game play.
I think it's because I like having a pure healer on my team.
I really don't see how Shana/Miranda dies for you so quickly when for me AL and the old man always die while Shana/Miranda rarely dies.
I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE OF THIS! I WILL PLAY AGAIN!
I just wanna hear Albert talking to Lloyd in the throne room about plans for the civil war and Lloyd's just spouting off some stuff about how Doel has a power that has the ability to sway the tides of war and change the course of history (talking about his Dragoon spirit) and Albert just kinda goes "I like your funny words, magic man"
Love might not be some all powerful thing that you can see in this universe and dimension. When we die we will see what love truly is.
You say that by not using magic you’ll have more fun as of that’s a fact that everyone enjoys this game the same. I personally love stomping enemies into nothing with overpowered magic while seeing insane damage numbers pop up while still having tons of time to perfect and use additions so that may be rather presumptuous of you.
I wasn't sure if I agreed with you on the phrasing you brought up around 2:56:10, but then I read "I'm glad to receive your fist, Master," and had to do a double-take.
Can you make another 3hr review of this game? This is the 3rd time I've watched this video and like, it's like listening to an interesting podcast that I could listen to forever. I loved this game even though I never got past the ghost ship as a kid, and when I fully beaten it when I was 18, I was in love with it.
This was a wonderful video Legend of Dragoon is one of my favorite games of all time. I beat Legend of Dragoon twice now my favorite Team to use is Kongol and Albert. It will probably be my yearly replay game
Came here looking to find real opinions on my favorite game of all time. And I gotta say, you definitely earned a like man. Really helped me through my shift, and brought a few watery eye moments with the nostalgia. Legend of Dragoon is truly a special game to me, and every time I play it my love grows. I don’t want much, just something in the land of Endiness. And GOD do I miss that website 🤣🤣 So many middle school hours lost on that site. Rewatching FMVs, watching addition and Dragoon videos. Good times
The ending always makes me tear up even just hearing the song
To your point about losing addition timing at 24:00 I SWEAR the same thing happened to me as well, it’s as if the addition window gets shifted ever so slightly away from the feedback you’re getting on the squares on screen. It’s very difficult to explain without playing but I know exactly what you mean
It would have been amazing if you had an addition menu in combat so you could select the one you want and that each addition had a type of advantage to use, for example element type, recharges mp etc.
Btw Shana/Miranda’s dragoon was OP with ring that restored MP
Well you should watch my wishlist video because I mention exactly that.
(I hope that came across as less snarky than it looks)
the mp Ring is good but I also use the physical ring or therapy ring and stock up on sun rhasopady potions instead of healing potions.
Thank you for this! I remember playing this game from ages 10 to 15.
This is your best video to date. Hope you come back someday over the rainbow. Take care amigo.
3 years later on this video, I always feel that urge to play. It's a game I can ALWAYS pick up and play. I've always ran through, never seen how beautiful it is.
Thanks for the pronunciation portion. My friends and I used to debate before voice acting happened all names in games
There's certain cheats you can use to remove party members btw. I did a play through of level 1 dragoon and level 5 additions with just Dart and Lavitz in the party
I don't know if anyone has told you, but about the dragoon attack wheel, you got to tap x right before it hits the line to get the perfect bro.
Thank you so much for this review, I really enjoyed it :)
At 1:39:26 you talk about random encounters and how they change from place to place. I think the only place that comes to my mind where it is significantly lower is in Zenebatos. But are there other places confirmed lower encounter? I saw somewhere that you get 4x encounter rate when running downwards or left than when running forward or to the right. I tried it on my last playthrough, it seems accurate.
I also think the music soundtrack is something else entirely, it is extremely good and there is not a single track I dislike. But I will have to be honest when I say that your favourite is my least favourite from the game haha.
I think the boss themes are amazing, I think it is great that they have 3 battle themes instead of just 1 like certain ff games (hint hint). One thing though about the boss themes is that the bosses don't always match the boss themes. That's no fault of the soundtrack, but the gameplay itself. For example, boss theme is obviously suppposed to be the easier bosses and for the most part it is true. Second boss theme sounds more serious, and should be predisposed to tougher fights, particulary boss fights that are impactful on the story. For the most part it does.
The third boss fight sounds very serious and should only be used on the toughest bosses like the Faust. I think they use it too much in the game, and several of those bosses it is used on do not match the super epic theme it presents.
I think each overworld map theme is exellently composed, and when entering the world map in disc 2 you really feel like you have entered an entirely different zone. Same with disc 3 world map and disc 4 world map music.
My 3 favourite tracks from the game has to be:
1. Boss theme 3 (Especially when the boss matches the theme for example when fighting Emperor Doel, The magician Faust and the Virages "if the Virages were more difficult that is")
2. Ending theme
3. Darts theme
There's so many honourable mentions in the soundtrack that nearly the entire soundtrack is an honourable mention :)
Just settling in for my annual replay of the game myself. The part about the itch needing scratched part really hit home. Gotta get my fix.
I love how you came to your "optimal" team and it's Albert, Dart and Haschel. This is the team composition I have ALWAYS used. But I also grind out max lvl and max dragoon lvl.
Small tip on the final boss, if you use your Special Dragoon transformation right off the bat, you usually get most of your turns before he nerfs dragons. Maybe have one turn left on all characters. I can usually get through P1 and P2 pretty easily and then smash additions after that. Easy peasy.
Talented over 3 hours content enough said don’t know any other video over 3 hours that’s fantastic
Theres a guy who hated on persona 5 for about 5 hours.
Who is he
50:48 small unsolicited correction. The city of Troy definitely existed. It WAS lost to time and considered to be completely legendary, but it was actually found and excavated starting in the 1870s
Thank you for this ❤. This game forever has a place with me.
Thank you for such an incredible review that does true justice to the greatness of this game.
I remember the first time I played this game, I was stuck at Indels Castle in Bale for like 2 weeks.
I mean, I was 7.
Just cuz I couldn't see there was more stairs(on top of stairs you just came through) that you had to take to get to the throne room.
There was a few more things like that, but that's the one that stuck with me the most.
I always wondered what it would be like to ride the canoe in Bale, or even better, Shirley's Shrine
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this video. It, too has made me want to boot up LOD again on my PS5.
I still remember how hype I was when we defeated Lloyd for good for the first time. I was so excited thinking not only would we get to then use the Divine Dragon Spirit, but also be able to experience Lloyd as a playable character in the party. 😩
It was still cool to see Dart use it though after the Fire Spirit returned to his father towards the end of the game.
Also couldn’t agree more with how well this soundtrack was composed. The forbidden battle theme, #2 boss theme, and the major boss theme were hands down my favorite of all though. And Lloyd’s theme.
0:00 Preview
0:40 Intro
5:44 Pre-Release
10:30 Intro
12:53 Graphics
28:15 Music
41:36 Atmosphere
44:00 Interlude
52:23 Gameplay
1:48:49 Interlude
1:49:05 Story
2:59:54 Ending
3:19:55 Conclusion
Damn glad you made this, it was a joy to listen! Thank you
PS. Yep, on PS4 and PS5 you can now get the Legend of Dragoon, added trophies too
‘You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you… ‘
Made that my senior quote Back in the day.
This is also my favorite game. I hope we get a remaster soon. I still have my ps1 discs, but it would be nice to play it without getting out my ps2. Such a perfect game.
Deserves a remake
I need to scramble for my ps2 controller+adapter so I can fetch an emulator online and replay this game only to revisit the Praire shack! I loved this video
This game had no business having a soundtrack as good as it was but none of us fans are complaining. Battle soundtrack #2, Boss theme #2, “Reminiscence,” Forbidden Land Battle theme and the Major boss theme are my favorites 🙏🏾
To this day and possibly forever this will be my favorite game of all time
2022 let's GO
This was an awesome review vid
This video is a masterpiece as much as the game. You have my like and subscribed. Double Slash!
thank you for this amazing video loved this game!
Amazing review to an amazing game.
i played the games through 3 times in a row just to test it with every charakter back in 2001 an to this day is my most favorite psx titel of all time thanks for the video realy brings me back
my first finish jrpg, collecting all the stardust and max out all additions, open every treasure boxes lul, what a journey loved it!
On the subject of additions, there is an option to turn off the button press requirement in exchange for half SP gain.
Never mind, it was an item. My bad…
Hey, for your next play through try out the Hell mode mod. Zychronix has a bit of a showcase on his channel. Apparently the community has been getting active attempting to mod the game after they data mined everything out of it. Like the epic bucket icon. It is what I plan to do for my next playthrough.
I am finished dozens of jrpg but this one is ONLY ONE that I finished TWICE. I have a friend who finished it... 5 or 7(?) times.
Why use Shana when you can use Meru?