I know right!! I mean sometimes you just feel mad cos of the chemicals in your body and rather than wasting energy suppressing all the time just letting it flow seems a healthier option..
Well, actually, there is a metaphor to be found in being an account, exec, or director. The head might be strategic, but if the body can't do the actual action work, we're screwed. The mind can go on limitless, but the body has limits. If you don't push those boundaries, your mind has a very limited timeframe to work with. Second: we forget our nervous system. It's a complex system that turns tactile impulses into data that our mind then turns into a strategy to deal with that. Our mind feeds on that valuable data.
A couple quotes from Christopher Hitchens: "When asked if free will exists, I say, 'Of course, we have no choice.' But unlike the religious, at least I know I'm being ironic. The people who say 'Free will... it's a RULE you've got to have free will' don't even know they're being literal"
Ha reminds me of this one "what does wrestling with a pig in the shit and arguing with an engineer have in common?" After a while you realise that they enjoy it
When he said we're addicted to it he was righter than most people know. The more you meditate, the less hold your ego has over you, and you realize yes, absolutely, all the bullshit and bad decisions in your life come from being addicted to the darkness.
Like 3-4 years ago I was lost. These two I credit with accepting who I am and the adjusting the way I think. Still not sure it’s for the better, but I am infinitely more self aware. I miss being dumb and oblivious. So I think 5 stars?
1:36 Alan Watts said this to portray the prevailing perspective of modern man, not as its own piece of wisdom. If anything, he disagreed with this perspective and would probably say that the contrast between consciousness and body is as imaginary as the contrast between a book and the pages which make it up.
Well, user named "fuck you," add something to the discussion. Don't just negate what OP says and then fail to provide evidence for your argument, it's inane
@@ldskjfhslkjdhflkjdhf I agree that Watts isn't an "intellectual" in I suppose the... classical use of the term? He often called himself a "spiritual entertainer," so he himself would probably agree he shouldn't be taken all too seriously, but he provides some interesting 101 on eastern philosophy in a calm and charming way. It'd be one thing if what Watts was putting out there was seriously damaging to society but overall the dude seems to have just sorta vibed out with some hippies. I think there's a difference between something like this and something like Greenblatt's _Towards a Poetics of Culture_ or some such "serious" academic work, but both have value in engaging their respective audiences.
@@kgaumont yeah i think i just wanted to know if there was a full video version of the episode. i've since learned that their video episodes went on their patreon :)
@@kgaumont haha dont worry, actually your comment got me to watch this video again after almost a year. i've since become a big fan of both these guys so it was nice to reminded how it started
We probably fixate on the story because it was advantageous for our ancestors to figure out potential solutions to future problems which resemble the one they just experienced.
Interesting that Pete is a Hindu or at least follows a Swami/Guru like Ram Dass who is a Hindu and I believe is a Hanuman Devotee and learned under Swami/Guru named Neem Karoli Baba. I find that really interesting and just cool!
You made it weird with pete Holmes, dan had an episode a long time ago I remember liking. But yeah when folks are open and smart and can deal with pete going off, it pairs well with deep spiritual/philosophical stuff
In terms of podcasts? #1 recommendation for combining comedy, philosophy, and spirituality would be the Duncan Trussell Family Hour. So fun and trippy, can't recommend him enough. Other great ones: Ram Dass Here and Now (Pete Holmes & Duncan are both huge fans of his), Heart Wisdom w/ Jack Kornfield, Awakening Now w/ Lama Surya Das, Sufi Heart w/ Omid Safi, Revealing. Empowering. Inspiring., The RobCast, Peter Rollins - The Archive, The Symbolic World
I get road rage because the idiot in the other car almost caused a collision. I don't want to get hurt or them hurting other people because we could leave a quadriplegic. It's hard to stay calm when they're so flippant when a simple turn signal could avoid any discourse.
you are a soul, you have a body. And: DILLIGAF only works for so long. Caring makes all the difference. Zen's really great when you feel overwhelmed, but you can't build anything on it. It's far too solipsistic.
I think hate more commonly correlates with a surplus of immigration. What you want is a slow, steady drip of demographics into a region with lots of empty space.
Humans have invented notions of pluralism thus we are culpable to the irreducible human trait of recalcitrance in the id. Tarkovsky ascribes the human condition, that is to receive, as in atrophy. *Tarkovsky despite being bogged down by the consensus oriented compound polity ruining his livelihood. I think Tarkovsky was in the right about the fact that all autochthones are capable of autocephaly or at least that expression. That autocephaly does not have to subscribe to the tenets of moral rearmament. It can be be a burden as it was with Rainer Fassbinder a long suffering artist or it could be on the nature of being alive like Andre Gregory. To paraphrase Todd,... 'Any of these people could be God."
"I'm being angry for fun" is the perfect clarification of all i have felt but couldn't express to people
Are you Bill Burr?
I know right!! I mean sometimes you just feel mad cos of the chemicals in your body and rather than wasting energy suppressing all the time just letting it flow seems a healthier option..
Some of my favourite comedies involve screaming and rage, like always sunny
I have contained my rage for a long as I am
Philosophical Dan Harmon pairs absolutely perfectly with Pete Holmes
nartrokobs 2 Dan has great appearance on on Pete’s podcast where they discuss philosophy and simulation theory
Dan Harmon is the Plato to Pete Holmes Aristotle.
Dan harmon morphing into slavoj zizek
1:35
Reminds me of the John Mulaney line "I don't know what my body is for, other than taking my head from room to room."
Well, actually, there is a metaphor to be found in being an account, exec, or director. The head might be strategic, but if the body can't do the actual action work, we're screwed. The mind can go on limitless, but the body has limits. If you don't push those boundaries, your mind has a very limited timeframe to work with.
Second: we forget our nervous system. It's a complex system that turns tactile impulses into data that our mind then turns into a strategy to deal with that. Our mind feeds on that valuable data.
There is something pleasantly ironic about the line "It's my choice, or the illusion of my choice...It's up to you"
A couple quotes from Christopher Hitchens:
"When asked if free will exists, I say, 'Of course, we have no choice.' But unlike the religious, at least I know I'm being ironic. The people who say 'Free will... it's a RULE you've got to have free will' don't even know they're being literal"
never did I ever think these guys would hang out. I didn't know how much I needed this shit 😭😭😭
Pete is absolutely right. It is pleasent to be angry. In German they say a choleric person is "streitsüchtig" which means addicted to arguments.
Ha reminds me of this one "what does wrestling with a pig in the shit and arguing with an engineer have in common?" After a while you realise that they enjoy it
Better to cause potential irritability while positive rather then persist as irritable which only creates a constant negative stream
When he said we're addicted to it he was righter than most people know. The more you meditate, the less hold your ego has over you, and you realize yes, absolutely, all the bullshit and bad decisions in your life come from being addicted to the darkness.
How do you pronounce that? Can I get a phonetic spelling?
between that and schadenfreude, one has to wonder why the Germans have so many words for deriving pleasure from negative experiences...
These two men’s therapists are having conversations through these two.
The every professor that taught these therapists are having a proxy battle
Now that htown is over we need these clips to survive! Thank you!
Dan is visibly so drunk right now which is the absolute best time to have a philosophical conversation.
its interesting how the most silly ppl are actually very smart and wise
There's method in comedy
I really appreciate this, thks
Beautiful conversation! In this moment everything is okay. Thats my mantra for the day. (:
:] !
One of my favorite kinds of youtube videos are two people just having a conversation trying to figure things out.
This is a smorgasbord of like watts mckenna and david foster wallace god damn there be big thinks in here
YodaXIII so THATS how you spell smorgasbord
Like 3-4 years ago I was lost. These two I credit with accepting who I am and the adjusting the way I think. Still not sure it’s for the better, but I am infinitely more self aware. I miss being dumb and oblivious. So I think 5 stars?
Gotta find that sweet-spot between lost and found.
they perfectly balance eachother out. two crazed existential seekers
Clicked on the video and then put my phone down and then got super excited when i heard Pete’s voice
"Some gods are assholes."
Oh Pete, I love you almost as much as Dan.
"And if you can convince someone there was a leapord you'll still get laid"
For the true Bros that cut me off,
Good job you passed one car and now we're both looking like jackasses at the stoplight.
The drive of a thousand miles begins with cutting off a single slow asshole.
Our space and time together is only temporary
Pete Holmes needs to have a TalkShow again. asap.
Graham Greene said that
"Your brain is telling you stories that create your suffering." -whistles-
Pete basically found his way around the fundamental attribution error.
I've been trans-rational basically my whole life and this guy has just put it into perfect words
1:36 Alan Watts said this to portray the prevailing perspective of modern man, not as its own piece of wisdom. If anything, he disagreed with this perspective and would probably say that the contrast between consciousness and body is as imaginary as the contrast between a book and the pages which make it up.
That is not true at all but okay
Well, user named "fuck you," add something to the discussion. Don't just negate what OP says and then fail to provide evidence for your argument, it's inane
Christopher Simons exactly, just saying things has no meaning
Alan Watts is a pseud tho, so who cares? The real miracle is that anyone was able to derive anything of value by consuming his work.
@@ldskjfhslkjdhflkjdhf I agree that Watts isn't an "intellectual" in I suppose the... classical use of the term? He often called himself a "spiritual entertainer," so he himself would probably agree he shouldn't be taken all too seriously, but he provides some interesting 101 on eastern philosophy in a calm and charming way. It'd be one thing if what Watts was putting out there was seriously damaging to society but overall the dude seems to have just sorta vibed out with some hippies. I think there's a difference between something like this and something like Greenblatt's _Towards a Poetics of Culture_ or some such "serious" academic work, but both have value in engaging their respective audiences.
is there a full video interview somewhere? this is a beautiful conversation
It's right there in the description. Harmontown episode 314: "You're The Good Kind Of Fat"
@@kgaumont yeah i think i just wanted to know if there was a full video version of the episode. i've since learned that their video episodes went on their patreon :)
@@EpicBlooFox I didn't even properly read what you wrote. It was right there in your comment 🤦♀️
@@kgaumont haha dont worry, actually your comment got me to watch this video again after almost a year. i've since become a big fan of both these guys so it was nice to reminded how it started
The quote is attributed to Graham Greene, the guy who wrote The Power and the Glory.
We probably fixate on the story because it was advantageous for our ancestors to figure out potential solutions to future problems which resemble the one they just experienced.
Wow Pete has some good philosophy
I fucking love drunk philosophy
At 2:10: Who else was reminded of Todd from the wedding scene of Community Sn6 Ep12 ? 😅
Interesting that Pete is a Hindu or at least follows a Swami/Guru like Ram Dass who is a Hindu and I believe is a Hanuman Devotee and learned under Swami/Guru named Neem Karoli Baba. I find that really interesting and just cool!
I want Pete Holmes as a best friend!
This was fucking great? Anyone have any recommendations for these kinds of convos?
You made it weird with pete Holmes, dan had an episode a long time ago I remember liking. But yeah when folks are open and smart and can deal with pete going off, it pairs well with deep spiritual/philosophical stuff
In terms of podcasts? #1 recommendation for combining comedy, philosophy, and spirituality would be the Duncan Trussell Family Hour. So fun and trippy, can't recommend him enough. Other great ones: Ram Dass Here and Now (Pete Holmes & Duncan are both huge fans of his), Heart Wisdom w/ Jack Kornfield, Awakening Now w/ Lama Surya Das, Sufi Heart w/ Omid Safi, Revealing. Empowering. Inspiring., The RobCast, Peter Rollins - The Archive, The Symbolic World
This was enjoyably deep
'Don't be paranoia's bitch'....I like it.
I love it when Dan references Campbell
Imagine a conversation between Dan Harmon and Neil Tyson
OMG HARMONTOWN AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ZEN!!! *explodes in samsara*
“The first step to enlightenment” oh thanks
Virtual riot told me to watch this
Same
All I see is Bruce Wayne! I've been fighting crime-no. I'm not that batman!
I get road rage because the idiot in the other car almost caused a collision. I don't want to get hurt or them hurting other people because we could leave a quadriplegic. It's hard to stay calm when they're so flippant when a simple turn signal could avoid any discourse.
you are a soul, you have a body.
And: DILLIGAF only works for so long. Caring makes all the difference. Zen's really great when you feel overwhelmed, but you can't build anything on it. It's far too solipsistic.
Damn, this was literally GOOD for me...
Holy shit, I didn’t expect this level of deep-ness
Thinging should have been the word of the Year.
And here you stumble upon the fundamental human problem: a real lack of imagination.
Thats not the fundamental human problem. Cowardliness is! imangination is importnat tho.
Pete Holmes gets rattled.... he isn't Ron Funches for crying out loud, I don't think anything could make that man get rattled.
Graham Green
I know a little bit about dan harmon, and watched a couple of these,
but I genuinly CAN'T tell what tell what they're talking about
I think hell is what happens when monks take remedies like Datura and think about death too much
Pete Holmes is like your enlightened cousin. His words hit all the right chords but he still annoys you.
This is a good comment, thanks
You’re turning red from your back
Yeah I just got bored so I made all these bodies for me to live inside of so I could have someone to argue with.
I didn't even finish the video yet but I sure the title of the video should have been "some gods are assholes"
Evolutionary biology in theraphy
They're approaching the Jim Carrey tier of ego
IT'S PETE!! 😃
Pete Holmes is a determinist? Cool.
A certain Christian Valentin Brunn has brought me here.
Literally the concept of Gnostic Christianity.
there’s some interesting stuff in that belief system
naw man, talk to a hateful person, you'll find they are full of imaginations of why their hate it justified.
I know a few people like blue-car god
hell is a lack of imagination?
...
sorry dante 🥺
That's a beautiful idea! What if more than one person is god?
❤
More this. How can I have more this? Who are these men?
Dan Harmon and Pete Holmes. Both have years' worth of podcasts that you can pick through
Wtf did I just become a better person.... nope just gas.
i hate spiders
this is what a fool sounds like
Read it as "hate is a lack of immigration" which is also true.
I think hate more commonly correlates with a surplus of immigration. What you want is a slow, steady drip of demographics into a region with lots of empty space.
Eckhart Tolle
This guy does too many shrooms
Imagination is lack of attention and missing serious time contemplating goals
passive aggressive ??
On ayahuasca..
I thought we are all God and we should be ...explain...I meant to say ashamed but ...
Can yu here the listener
Humans have invented notions of pluralism thus we are culpable to the irreducible human trait of recalcitrance in the id. Tarkovsky ascribes the human condition, that is to receive, as in atrophy. *Tarkovsky despite being bogged down by the consensus oriented compound polity ruining his livelihood. I think Tarkovsky was in the right about the fact that all autochthones are capable of autocephaly or at least that expression. That autocephaly does not have to subscribe to the tenets of moral rearmament. It can be be a burden as it was with Rainer Fassbinder a long suffering artist or it could be on the nature of being alive like Andre Gregory. To paraphrase Todd,... 'Any of these people could be God."
Nah, I disagree. I can imagine Nazis and Nazism and my hatred increases.
I find Pete Holmes willingness to champion the "fuck it, I don't give a shit about reality" stance dishonest af.
ugh
I think it's funny we call smart devices a "phone" considering how much more shit they do than make voice calls.