Having driven all three of those Vans I feel that everything you mentioned is pretty accurate. I have a trafic and a transporter currently. Had the transit for a couple of weeks after somebody drove into the back of my trafic. The box under the rear seats in the trafic is removable and the tabs that are used to pull up the front passenger seat will eventually detach themselves.
Transporter for me every time. Great video and a great comparison. Haven’t seen anything like this on TH-cam before and it’s brilliant for anyone looking to buy a vehicle of this type.
The VW may have better residuals but the bills you will pay will be much higher. I have a Vivaro and that is slightly better than the Trafic. My 08 Vivaro is the best van I have ever driven, reliable and cheap to maintain., post 07s have a timing chain, which is a no brainer. Thanks for you honesty.
Just finished a 25000km journey around outback Australia in a 2017 VW transporter. Thousands of kms of very rough, corrugated sandy and often rocky roads. We were usually the only 2WD vehicle in many destinations. We had zero problems. Not one. Very happy with VW, and will buy another one when the time comes.
Had a T2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, the latter being 204BHP , 4 wheel drive DSG. Absolutely love them. Apart from the T2, which just didn’t like starting in the wet, had no reliability or quality problems worth mentioning. Yes they are expensive, and VW knows how to charge for extras, but they hold their price and that tells you something about the quality I think.
What mileage have you done on your T6 David? When my cambelt went at 70000 VW said this was rare which I hoped was true but 6 weeks later because there was 6 other T6s having there engines rebuilt because of the same problem I did start to wonder how rare the problem was. I have had a few vans from new and the T6 is the most comfortable to drive, the DSG does float my boat, how has it been
I run a small hire fleet, the Transit Custom has proven to be more reliable than our Transporters and miles better than our VW Crafters. As for the infamous wet belt, never had a problem apart from one that showed slight fraying on the belt, but it was getting changed anyway. According to the Ford dealership we deal with the vans that suffer wet belt problems tend to be builders vans that aren't serviced regularly.
fantastic review thanks, living in france coming from Lancashire great to hear a northern very honest voice. thanks for this review very informative very honest, good job
Great video. the VW is alot skinnier, I've seen camper converter companies choose the Trafic for that very reason, much wider. Thanks for the video, very useful. At the end it would be cool to see a final summary of why the Trafic is the winner. I don't get why the VW has such a following, it's nothing like the classic 60s model and half the van size the Trafic is for the price.
Recently bought the onyx edition fiat Talento 6 seater lwb in black, which is similar to the Traffic but has a 170 bhp engine, shiny chrome side bars and black alloy wheels, got it for £25k brand new including vat, very pleased with it, put a slightly shortened small double metal frame platform bed from wayfair in the back with the middle legs shortened, to fit over the wheel box and a swivel double passenger seat plate along with magnet attached led lights in the back as well as suction on window blinds and we now use it as a slightly modified van for camping and picnic day trips without losing it's functionality as a van for everything else without the need to remove the bulkhead but we did remove the bulkhead window and put a rubber seal around the opening to finish it off as well as a curtain.
I have used all three. In my opinion the transit custom is practically the best van, feels way better built than the other two in every department. But! I had trouble with the DPF in the ford, it had to be seen to by the main dealer which took around 3 months to get back. Also I hear they have trouble with the wet belt. It's a tough choice. VW priced far to high for what it is.
Excellent, I've had a T5 for several years and now looking forward to getting back in a van. Looking at the Renault in its 9 seat minibus form and really liked your comparison as it's the ages of vehicle I'm considering. I also liked you based it on price rather than choosing all them the same age. With van prices at the moment being crazy - sold my T5 7 years ago and couldn't buy the same van today for the same money!
I've had a number of vans over the years, including a Vito and a crew cab Transporter with captains chairs. The only one I would buy with my own money would be a decent spec Transit Custom, definitely want the extra dead locks though
Great review Well I own a 2009 T5 so I would naturally be bias to the VW ? I was given a new 67 plate T6 for my work van and in all honesty it was a huge disappointment, no mudguards, no steering wheel controls, no heated seats and extremely poor lighting from the headlights which is well documented on the forums. But after 4 months I developed a left knee issue because the bulkhead restricted the seat going back fully so I was put into a 66 plate transit custom and such a huge improvement in every way. But now I have the new 20 plate transit custom and what an amazing van in every aspect far superior to any commercial vehicle I have driven over the last 25yrs. BUT a transit still isn't a VW is it LOL
I have a brand new Transit custom limited. I test drove the T6.1 and it doesn't drive as nice and feels dated and poor quality in comparison to the new Transit.
Josh… big Josh. Just watched stumbled across your video as I was looking at reviews for the Traffic. Very helpful and detailed as always. Cheers buddy.
Thank you for this review and comparison, I really found it informative and it has opened my (VW shaded) eyes to the alternatives out there. I might just be a convert to the Renault...
I would love to, but unfortunately I'm not big enough in the TH-cam worlf to be able to get the vehicles. If the opportunity arrises I shall do it though 💪
I have had a few Trafic's 2.0TD Sport 115 2008 and 2012 models no problems with 2008 but 2012 had clutch cylinder fail halfway through deliveries, AA recovered repaired under warranty then windscreen wipers wouldn't turn off , 3 day repair for ECU that controls them , all within 12 months or 12,000 miles, did about 40mpg each then ran faultlessly, I had a new Transit Custom Limited 2020 with new 2.0td engine 185 auto DCIV 40mpg , loved it overall but niggles were radio was rubbish sound for music, very good connectivity and linguatronic phone was great and clear, gearbox was awful for auto as cannot accelerate gently without it kicking down and wanting to race along unless you activated eco button then was nice changes but no torque from engine, I sold it before the engine went as this engine is very unreliable in that the wet timing belt fails clogging oil ways and destroying full engine , waiting time for repairs 2 to 3 months , there are recalls before this happens and don't know current waiting time for modified timing belts, older 2.2 engine much better reliability. just bought another Trafic 1.6 twin turbo 145 crew, reports of 47 to 50 mpg, we shall see! , PS great review thanks.
The ford transit, theres more space in front seat. Pull the seat forward and pull the back section of front seat up and theres more space. And there's a opinion to have rearview camera on rearview mirror. I drove all 3 I prefer Transit due torque and car feel like driving and loads of storage. Yes it's frikken wide and bit difficult to park but i love my work van, 2022 Ford Transit Custom Base 2.2 6 speed. The options on it is, rubber flooring in the back, heated windscreen, rearview camera, air conditioning. Lovely van, i would to own one.
I would get the Transit Custom. They depriciate more than a Transporter but they don't depreciate that bad and they are cheaper than the VW in the first place. I would do a camper covert with the Transit Custom. That would definately bump up the value
The more I look the more I realise it’s only the looks I want in the transporter. Trying to get one with what iv come to see as standard comforts is pretty much impossible. Still it’s the one I want even though I know it’s probably one of the worst overall packages on the market
The transit in this video isn’t a factory DCiV...they come with proper window trim on the back doors with factory fitted windows and dual sliding rear doors, with a door bin each side and a cup holder on the door each side too. The one in the video is obviously an after market conversion so not really an accurate example for comparison sake.
Give the transit a wide berth unless you like down time and visiting repair centres WHEN IF you can get a slot Utter junk and the warranty is not worth the paper it’s written on
Great comparison video. Torn between the transit and transporter. Not sure the extra price is justified in the VW, given the extra spec you get with the transit 👍🏻
Currently looking my self and my headeak is, the vw rust bad but hold there money, the renualt will probably have issues and the ford look smart in the msport model ????
If you want a people carrier that can be used for those occasional DIY materials runs to B&Q for a sheet of plasterboard or MDF, the fixed bulkhead and fixed seat Kombi is useless. The ability to remove the rear seats and get sheets of 8x4 flat in the back makes the VW the winner every time. Want to use it for a weekend away with a bed in the back? VW wins again. It's all about multi-functionality with a vehicle that has to be able to do everything and is often the only vehicle the family has access to. Fixed bulkheads and rear seats take so much usefulness away.
The Transit Custom is the nicest overall package however the newer 2.0 EcoBlue engines are total rubbish! A rubber belt running in oil was never going to work, Ford have proven it. I know a few guys with high mileage Trafic’s/ Vivaro’s 1.6 dCi who all seem happy and would buy another one. The older versions with the 1.9 and 2.0 dCi weren’t bad vans at all. And to be fair, they’re every bit as good to drive as a Custom. Transporter is very much about the image, hence why it retains its value so well. The reliability of them isn’t great though, again from speaking to people I know who own/ have owned one, they seem to swear at them instead of by them. Trafic for me 🇫🇷
Had X1 Vivaro, 2x Trafics and now got a VW Transporter Highline. My VW is an absolute money pit, constant faults and niggles. Parts are extortionate compared to Trafics or Vivaros.
Surely he actually realised the transporter was a previous generation face lift '10 on T5.1 based on the T5 which came out in '03. He should have compared it with the T6 which came out in 2016
Yes of course but we are talking used vehicles, I was comparing them on price, a t6 is barely affordable as a kombi, and there is barley any difference anyway
Nice and very detailed explanation of each van mate !!! Well done But what about reliability??? I think this is most important question for everyone who wants to get one of these vans in the future. In my opinion in the very first place best van is a most reliable van. And of course to answer this question you need to own each of them for years to give most accurate reliability opinion 👍
I’ve never had a reliable French van! Put hundreds of thousands of miles on transits without complaint. VW just an overpriced badge!! Plus transits just nicer to actually drive.
It would be the transit for me all day long, I'm one for value for money and the VW brings none of that for me other than being a VW fanboys dream vehicle... And those Trafics and Vivaros leave me wondering how long til that little (heavily turbocharged) 1.6 engine goes pop? 🤔 Ye fine the VW won't depreciate as fast because of the cult following, but wow they're way more expensive up front so where's the gain in that???
The capacity of an engine means nothing, they have 125hp on the 18 plate 1.6 vivaro...that's not alot with quite a bit of tourqe, most 1.0 cars now have 130hp lol
@@cupra2Jock. You missed my point. A 2.0 litre engine producing 130hp will have a much easier time delivering that performance than a heavily turbo charged 1.6 litre engine producing 130hp. So my point is, these little engines are being worked harder to keep up with the big boys... Now I know technology moves along somewhat too in the sense that a 2.0 engine from today is likely more reliable and efficient than a 3.0 from the 70s but just look at the Vauxhall Vivaro for example of today's specification and you'll note that Vauxhall went back to offering a 2.0 with their current model, why is that I wonder..?
The transporter is a hideous monstrosity due to the german lack of imagination. The square shape pattern is all over it, which is boring. If that thing breaks down it will cost you an arm and two legs.
Own a vauxhall vivaro 6 seater crew cab 2016, horrible van had nothing but trouble with it from new, 3 gear box repairs, 2 turbo replacements lots and lots of other problems side doors creek like they loose, seats are uncomfortable to drive long distance, front space is cramped with 3 people just a terrible faulty van, most garages refuse to work on them, i would never own vauxhall again their customer service is vile under warranty avoid at all costs
And one more thing. This is NOT a family vehicle. What kids with iPads??? This is workers vehicle. Go buy a Multivan if you need it for transporting family.
@@comfortablynumb8832 had a brand new 2018 2.2 when it came out nothing but problems now have a 2020 2.0 and same nothing but problems and so heavy on diesel less than 30mpg I might aswell be driving a v8
Hate driving french vans, the renaults are the least worst but still no scratch to a transit, not driven a nazi van but heard they are better than the fords
Futuristic interior? No, thanks. The problem is, that all futuristic interiors gets out of date too quickly. And the they are more boring that those first ones. And comparing 2014 model of transporter with 2017 model of traffic is idiotic. Compare same year make.
The year is irrelevant, it's the generation that holds. These are both the same generation. Would it help next time if I removed the registration plates? Aside from all of this, these all fall into a similar budget.
Going by what I see on the road, its the Transit. Not a fan of the Transporter, overpriced by a lot. My brother owns a top of range long wheelbase Transporter, he runs around in a Toyota hi-lux, says a lot that.
I did!!! We've (they!) outgrown our 7 seat car which is why were in the market for a 6 seat kombi van and this video has been great help but fml what a minefield the SH kombi van market is... If i had any hair left from having triplets id be pulling it out!
Money no object, id be taking the vw... the renault a mate has went like stink and handled like a mother fecker, but the interior was a55... my uncle has an 07 transit and the rust and rot is shocking, not a good panel that isnt rusting out, failed its mot, completely worthless.. ford metal it purposely awful..
The ford is just soooo shit inside! The dash looks like a waste of space. Remember the radios we used to have. The radio in this takes up the entire dash. That could have been a few cubby holes. Ohh and .... Wet belt. Yeah, they'll get sued for that one day.
All the crap you talked about is not what people wanted to know it's about quality sturdy Ness flimsy bits differences seat quality what will wear and tear like a van with a 1.6 being suprised by the torque could be thinner steel and plastics See a well looked after 300.000 miler vw in a simular well looked after 300.000 Renault would be like driving a 1960s spring pram as to being in a go cart
How do you know what people want to know? In fact in the 1000s of people that have viewed this video you are the only one that has given this feedback, I can't please everyone but in this case I disagree with you and think I have pleased the majority of people that searched for this video. None the less, thanks for the feed back, I'll look into it for future videos.
not watched the video yet and probably dont need to. ive driven vans for 30 years on and off, for various reasons and ive driven pretty much every (mainstream) van there is going. and i will say that when its my own money, its a Transit every time for me. the Renault/Vauxhall can be reasonable, as long as the electrics work fine. and thats as likely as an 80s Alfa Romeo electrics working or a 70s Fiat not rusting!, the VW, ive just never been able to get comfortably seated in, and it is, in my opinion, overrated (or overpriced, depending on which way you look at it) and the last transporter i drove was noisy (engine noise) as hell (and theyre all the same, from the outside). Even though the Custom is the 'ugly duckling' of the Transit family, its still better looking than most other vans on offer, drives better, and, in my opinion, is a better all round package. theres a reason the Transit outsells the next best selling van by 3 units to 1! you dont sell that many if theyre cr@p, consistently for 50 years (or so). a friend who owns a fleet of Merc vans (he is a bg fan of the Sprinters) even has a Transit on his fleet, which is the van he uses himself!
@@CorpsMedia poor old Pete probably never been in a van if he thinks the Transit is more comfortable than the Transporter. Nice try Pete but you fell at the first 😂😂
The T5 will be worth more, but you paid more, so why is this an argument? Also, it will only be worth more, if it lives long enough. These VW engines are known to be hugely unreliable, the more horsepower, the worse it gets. Head gaskets, turbos, whole blocks being warped. And that are issues based in the very construction of the engines, so there simply is no fixing this, only managing. It's a nightmare really. There are whole companies who are specialized in fixing VW Bus engines. They really know their sh*te and even they say, that VW regularly drops the ball by simply making the engines not thermally stable, hence getting too hot and dying from as early as 60000km on. Plus they are terrible to work on and VW keeps the licences for spare parts and documentation for as long as possible, making it even more expensive to repair those transporters. Add to that the countless other quality issues, the high price and VWs terrible warranty and customer service and you really have to ask yourself: Why bother?
That’s how you make a comparison video- brilliant
Thanks man ❤️
Having driven all three of those Vans I feel that everything you mentioned is pretty accurate. I have a trafic and a transporter currently. Had the transit for a couple of weeks after somebody drove into the back of my trafic.
The box under the rear seats in the trafic is removable and the tabs that are used to pull up the front passenger seat will eventually detach themselves.
Transporter for me every time. Great video and a great comparison. Haven’t seen anything like this on TH-cam before and it’s brilliant for anyone looking to buy a vehicle of this type.
helped me choose
At work we never get transporters in for repair but loads of traffic/vivaro and shed loads of transits, Transporters for the win 100% 🇬🇧👍
The VW may have better residuals but the bills you will pay will be much higher. I have a Vivaro and that is slightly better than the Trafic. My 08 Vivaro is the best van I have ever driven, reliable and cheap to maintain., post 07s have a timing chain, which is a no brainer. Thanks for you honesty.
Just finished a 25000km journey around outback Australia in a 2017 VW transporter. Thousands of kms of very rough, corrugated sandy and often rocky roads. We were usually the only 2WD vehicle in many destinations. We had zero problems. Not one. Very happy with VW, and will buy another one when the time comes.
If you look away, you would think that Carl Froch was giving this review! 😂👍🏼
Had a T2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, the latter being 204BHP , 4 wheel drive DSG. Absolutely love them. Apart from the T2, which just didn’t like starting in the wet, had no reliability or quality problems worth mentioning. Yes they are expensive, and VW knows how to charge for extras, but they hold their price and that tells you something about the quality I think.
What mileage have you done on your T6 David? When my cambelt went at 70000 VW said this was rare which I hoped was true but 6 weeks later because there was 6 other T6s having there engines rebuilt because of the same problem I did start to wonder how rare the problem was.
I have had a few vans from new and the T6 is the most comfortable to drive, the DSG does float my boat, how has it been
I run a small hire fleet, the Transit Custom has proven to be more reliable than our Transporters and miles better than our VW Crafters. As for the infamous wet belt, never had a problem apart from one that showed slight fraying on the belt, but it was getting changed anyway. According to the Ford dealership we deal with the vans that suffer wet belt problems tend to be builders vans that aren't serviced regularly.
fantastic review thanks, living in france coming from Lancashire great to hear a northern very honest voice. thanks for this review very informative very honest, good job
Great video. the VW is alot skinnier, I've seen camper converter companies choose the Trafic for that very reason, much wider. Thanks for the video, very useful. At the end it would be cool to see a final summary of why the Trafic is the winner. I don't get why the VW has such a following, it's nothing like the classic 60s model and half the van size the Trafic is for the price.
Recently bought the onyx edition fiat Talento 6 seater lwb in black, which is similar to the Traffic but has a 170 bhp engine, shiny chrome side bars and black alloy wheels, got it for £25k brand new including vat, very pleased with it, put a slightly shortened small double metal frame platform bed from wayfair in the back with the middle legs shortened, to fit over the wheel box and a swivel double passenger seat plate along with magnet attached led lights in the back as well as suction on window blinds and we now use it as a slightly modified van for camping and picnic day trips without losing it's functionality as a van for everything else without the need to remove the bulkhead but we did remove the bulkhead window and put a rubber seal around the opening to finish it off as well as a curtain.
I get mine in July. Do you like yours. Any issues. I bought the auto . Not mechanical minded. Thanks
I want one of these in the U.S., we are missing on some good versatile vans.
Excellent. Very professional and informative.
I have used all three.
In my opinion the transit custom is practically the best van, feels way better built than the other two in every department. But! I had trouble with the DPF in the ford, it had to be seen to by the main dealer which took around 3 months to get back. Also I hear they have trouble with the wet belt. It's a tough choice.
VW priced far to high for what it is.
Excellent, I've had a T5 for several years and now looking forward to getting back in a van. Looking at the Renault in its 9 seat minibus form and really liked your comparison as it's the ages of vehicle I'm considering. I also liked you based it on price rather than choosing all them the same age. With van prices at the moment being crazy - sold my T5 7 years ago and couldn't buy the same van today for the same money!
I've had a number of vans over the years, including a Vito and a crew cab Transporter with captains chairs. The only one I would buy with my own money would be a decent spec Transit Custom, definitely want the extra dead locks though
Great review
Well I own a 2009 T5 so I would naturally be bias to the VW ?
I was given a new 67 plate T6 for my work van and in all honesty it was a huge disappointment, no mudguards, no steering wheel controls, no heated seats and extremely poor lighting from the headlights which is well documented on the forums. But after 4 months I developed a left knee issue because the bulkhead restricted the seat going back fully so I was put into a 66 plate transit custom and such a huge improvement in every way.
But now I have the new 20 plate transit custom and what an amazing van in every aspect far superior to any commercial vehicle I have driven over the last 25yrs.
BUT a transit still isn't a VW is it LOL
I have a brand new Transit custom limited. I test drove the T6.1 and it doesn't drive as nice and feels dated and poor quality in comparison to the new Transit.
Totally the correct answer
Josh… big Josh. Just watched stumbled across your video as I was looking at reviews for the Traffic.
Very helpful and detailed as always. Cheers buddy.
Ive a 5 yr old trafic 120
Its a great vehicle
Loads of room biggest volume
Quiet
Economical 50 mpg +
Thank you for this review and comparison, I really found it informative and it has opened my (VW shaded) eyes to the alternatives out there. I might just be a convert to the Renault...
I’ve got a Transit Custom L2H2 and its handles like a car! It’s a really enjoyable drive.
Can you do comparison of latest versions, I sat in transporter Highline just before Christmas and loved it
I would love to, but unfortunately I'm not big enough in the TH-cam worlf to be able to get the vehicles. If the opportunity arrises I shall do it though 💪
I have had a few Trafic's 2.0TD Sport 115 2008 and 2012 models no problems with 2008 but 2012 had clutch cylinder fail halfway through deliveries, AA recovered repaired under warranty then windscreen wipers wouldn't turn off , 3 day repair for ECU that controls them , all within 12 months or 12,000 miles, did about 40mpg each then ran faultlessly, I had a new Transit Custom Limited 2020 with new 2.0td engine 185 auto DCIV 40mpg , loved it overall but niggles were radio was rubbish sound for music, very good connectivity and linguatronic phone was great and clear, gearbox was awful for auto as cannot accelerate gently without it kicking down and wanting to race along unless you activated eco button then was nice changes but no torque from engine, I sold it before the engine went as this engine is very unreliable in that the wet timing belt fails clogging oil ways and destroying full engine , waiting time for repairs 2 to 3 months , there are recalls before this happens and don't know current waiting time for modified timing belts, older 2.2 engine much better reliability. just bought another Trafic 1.6 twin turbo 145 crew, reports of 47 to 50 mpg, we shall see! , PS great review thanks.
Helpful video, thanks!
The new Traffics have a two liter engine.
RIGHT CHOICE ---- i have had 6 transits one transporter and one traffic and the traffic was by far the best untill i ignored the timing belts lol
I remember driving a rental Renault Traffic, it was horrendous in comparison to the Transporter and the Transit. Will never go near that van again!
Trafic is best package overall, price is unbeatable !!!
until the electrics fail (and they will)
@@petelattimer6808 hmn... never heared of this. You mean bc ? Or battery?
And the engine problems in the vw will also start very soon. It's a shame.
How long til that little (heavily turbocharged) 1.6 engine goes pop though? 🤔
@@Tomatoe182 my turbo went at 50k 1litre of oil every 1k miles. Now near 80k doing same again.
As far as I know the only van with a walk-thru and a tailgate is a transporter, both of those things are super handy for camping/living in one.
I have a tail gate vivaro
You can can specify the Trafic with a single passenger seat and a tailgate, I think the Ford too.
What a mine of useful information !
I don't like the transit back space compared to it's prev models, but much better looking and that inverter makes all the difference.
The ford transit, theres more space in front seat. Pull the seat forward and pull the back section of front seat up and theres more space. And there's a opinion to have rearview camera on rearview mirror. I drove all 3 I prefer Transit due torque and car feel like driving and loads of storage. Yes it's frikken wide and bit difficult to park but i love my work van, 2022 Ford Transit Custom Base 2.2 6 speed. The options on it is, rubber flooring in the back, heated windscreen, rearview camera, air conditioning. Lovely van, i would to own one.
I would get the Transit Custom. They depriciate more than a Transporter but they don't depreciate that bad and they are cheaper than the VW in the first place. I would do a camper covert with the Transit Custom. That would definately bump up the value
The more I look the more I realise it’s only the looks I want in the transporter. Trying to get one with what iv come to see as standard comforts is pretty much impossible. Still it’s the one I want even though I know it’s probably one of the worst overall packages on the market
The Ford Custom Tourneo is the passenger variant, as opposed to crew cab
Excellent review Thanks
The transit in this video isn’t a factory DCiV...they come with proper window trim on the back doors with factory fitted windows and dual sliding rear doors, with a door bin each side and a cup holder on the door each side too. The one in the video is obviously an after market conversion so not really an accurate example for comparison sake.
Give the transit a wide berth unless you like down time and visiting repair centres WHEN IF you can get a slot
Utter junk and the warranty is not worth the paper it’s written on
Now that the Chrysler Town & Country mini van is no longer being made, the next best replacement is actually
the 2023 Hyundai Staria Premium.
thank you for your video it helped me a lot 😎🤔
Nice video just wish you had the vito in it. Cheers 🍻
Great comparison video.
Torn between the transit and transporter.
Not sure the extra price is justified in the VW, given the extra spec you get with the transit 👍🏻
I know I will always be loyal to transporters. But the facts are you get more per £ in the transit. But! The depreciation will be much more
I’ve got the transit, a high mileage bargain and it’s great to drive. Worth joining the Facebook owners groups to see what people are saying.
And the wydder one in market ?
Currently looking my self and my headeak is, the vw rust bad but hold there money, the renualt will probably have issues and the ford look smart in the msport model ????
If you want a people carrier that can be used for those occasional DIY materials runs to B&Q for a sheet of plasterboard or MDF, the fixed bulkhead and fixed seat Kombi is useless. The ability to remove the rear seats and get sheets of 8x4 flat in the back makes the VW the winner every time. Want to use it for a weekend away with a bed in the back? VW wins again. It's all about multi-functionality with a vehicle that has to be able to do everything and is often the only vehicle the family has access to. Fixed bulkheads and rear seats take so much usefulness away.
Transporter is the only winner, however if you get a lemon then you are at the mercy of their incredibly poor dealership network.
Форд костюм самый самый ! Супер !
The Transit Custom is the nicest overall package however the newer 2.0 EcoBlue engines are total rubbish! A rubber belt running in oil was never going to work, Ford have proven it.
I know a few guys with high mileage Trafic’s/ Vivaro’s 1.6 dCi who all seem happy and would buy another one. The older versions with the 1.9 and 2.0 dCi weren’t bad vans at all. And to be fair, they’re every bit as good to drive as a Custom.
Transporter is very much about the image, hence why it retains its value so well. The reliability of them isn’t great though, again from speaking to people I know who own/ have owned one, they seem to swear at them instead of by them.
Trafic for me 🇫🇷
That’s a big owl
You driving around Poole? 🤣
@@jimmer1976 sure am
why you didn't include Expert/Jumpy ?
They are smaller.
@@Wastelander13 Boxer is bigger
Selling my fords the wet belt problems are a joke
great video, would be interesting to see what you think of the newer 2 litre transit engine rather than the 2.2
Yes I would, it's sometimes getting the vehicles that is the hard bit
VW all day long. Transporter or caddy . I couldn’t cope with all the rattles in the trafic & transit after 6 months.
I'm in a 73 plate caddy and it has rattles. My old 08 plate connect was far comfier drive. Says somet doesn't it😂
Had X1 Vivaro, 2x Trafics and now got a VW Transporter Highline.
My VW is an absolute money pit, constant faults and niggles. Parts are extortionate compared to Trafics or Vivaros.
Surely he actually realised the transporter was a previous generation face lift '10 on T5.1 based on the T5 which came out in '03. He should have compared it with the T6 which came out in 2016
Yes of course but we are talking used vehicles, I was comparing them on price, a t6 is barely affordable as a kombi, and there is barley any difference anyway
VW💪❤️
Nice and very detailed explanation of each van mate !!! Well done
But what about reliability???
I think this is most important question for everyone who wants to get one of these vans in the future.
In my opinion in the very first place best van is a most reliable van.
And of course to answer this question you need to own each of them for years to give most accurate reliability opinion 👍
Ford designed to rust and components fail after 7 years of avarage use.
I’ve never had a reliable French van! Put hundreds of thousands of miles on transits without complaint. VW just an overpriced badge!! Plus transits just nicer to actually drive.
You’re bloody well right
Funny that, me old boss has a trafic on near 300,000 miles with a fucked gearbox still going strong😂 drives like new...ish.
Put a load in each van and see which is best
What about a Citroen relay?
The mirror will be useful for checking on the children
It would be the transit for me all day long, I'm one for value for money and the VW brings none of that for me other than being a VW fanboys dream vehicle...
And those Trafics and Vivaros leave me wondering how long til that little (heavily turbocharged) 1.6 engine goes pop? 🤔
Ye fine the VW won't depreciate as fast because of the cult following, but wow they're way more expensive up front so where's the gain in that???
What about residual value, does that count for anything? You definitely sound like an expert in the field.
The capacity of an engine means nothing, they have 125hp on the 18 plate 1.6 vivaro...that's not alot with quite a bit of tourqe, most 1.0 cars now have 130hp lol
@@cupra2Jock. You missed my point. A 2.0 litre engine producing 130hp will have a much easier time delivering that performance than a heavily turbo charged 1.6 litre engine producing 130hp. So my point is, these little engines are being worked harder to keep up with the big boys...
Now I know technology moves along somewhat too in the sense that a 2.0 engine from today is likely more reliable and efficient than a 3.0 from the 70s but just look at the Vauxhall Vivaro for example of today's specification and you'll note that Vauxhall went back to offering a 2.0 with their current model, why is that I wonder..?
woa boa holder :D
The Abbreviation for FORD IS . For Ordering Rushing Driver nothing can beat a Transit van
REALLY??? Thats strange, I always thought it was First On Rust and Deterioration
So it's not Fix On Rainy Days then
The transporter is a hideous monstrosity due to the german lack of imagination. The square shape pattern is all over it, which is boring. If that thing breaks down it will cost you an arm and two legs.
Own a vauxhall vivaro 6 seater crew cab 2016, horrible van had nothing but trouble with it from new, 3 gear box repairs, 2 turbo replacements lots and lots of other problems side doors creek like they loose, seats are uncomfortable to drive long distance, front space is cramped with 3 people just a terrible faulty van, most garages refuse to work on them, i would never own vauxhall again their customer service is vile under warranty avoid at all costs
And one more thing. This is NOT a family vehicle. What kids with iPads??? This is workers vehicle. Go buy a Multivan if you need it for transporting family.
If you buy it and use it as a family vehicle then it's a family vehicle.
На сегодня новый трафик рулит, транспортера уже нету
You spelled it wrong its renualt trafic and not named traffic
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T6 heavy steering , heavy suspension, rough dsg....Transit drives like a car
Fords diesel engines known for poor quality and high fuel consumption. No thanks.
I had a transit mk5 for 6 years all it asked for is a battery and tyres
@@comfortablynumb8832 had a brand new 2018 2.2 when it came out nothing but problems now have a 2020 2.0 and same nothing but problems and so heavy on diesel less than 30mpg I might aswell be driving a v8
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Hate driving french vans, the renaults are the least worst but still no scratch to a transit, not driven a nazi van but heard they are better than the fords
Futuristic interior? No, thanks. The problem is, that all futuristic interiors gets out of date too quickly. And the they are more boring that those first ones. And comparing 2014 model of transporter with 2017 model of traffic is idiotic. Compare same year make.
The year is irrelevant, it's the generation that holds. These are both the same generation. Would it help next time if I removed the registration plates?
Aside from all of this, these all fall into a similar budget.
It's called Trafic, not Traffic
Going by what I see on the road, its the Transit. Not a fan of the Transporter, overpriced by a lot. My brother owns a top of range long wheelbase Transporter, he runs around in a Toyota hi-lux, says a lot that.
You should of bought a transit !! 😉
*Trafic* not Traffic
God help you if you have three that need isofix 😂😂😂
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I did!!! We've (they!) outgrown our 7 seat car which is why were in the market for a 6 seat kombi van and this video has been great help but fml what a minefield the SH kombi van market is... If i had any hair left from having triplets id be pulling it out!
Money no object, id be taking the vw... the renault a mate has went like stink and handled like a mother fecker, but the interior was a55... my uncle has an 07 transit and the rust and rot is shocking, not a good panel that isnt rusting out, failed its mot, completely worthless.. ford metal it purposely awful..
The ford is just soooo shit inside! The dash looks like a waste of space. Remember the radios we used to have. The radio in this takes up the entire dash. That could have been a few cubby holes. Ohh and .... Wet belt. Yeah, they'll get sued for that one day.
All the crap you talked about is not what people wanted to know it's about quality sturdy Ness flimsy bits differences seat quality what will wear and tear like a van with a 1.6 being suprised by the torque could be thinner steel and plastics
See a well looked after 300.000 miler vw in a simular well looked after 300.000 Renault would be like driving a 1960s spring pram as to being in a go cart
How do you know what people want to know? In fact in the 1000s of people that have viewed this video you are the only one that has given this feedback, I can't please everyone but in this case I disagree with you and think I have pleased the majority of people that searched for this video. None the less, thanks for the feed back, I'll look into it for future videos.
Not sure what video you watched? Great video which has helped me out with what to consider when I buy my van.
not watched the video yet and probably dont need to. ive driven vans for 30 years on and off, for various reasons and ive driven pretty much every (mainstream) van there is going. and i will say that when its my own money, its a Transit every time for me. the Renault/Vauxhall can be reasonable, as long as the electrics work fine. and thats as likely as an 80s Alfa Romeo electrics working or a 70s Fiat not rusting!, the VW, ive just never been able to get comfortably seated in, and it is, in my opinion, overrated (or overpriced, depending on which way you look at it) and the last transporter i drove was noisy (engine noise) as hell (and theyre all the same, from the outside). Even though the Custom is the 'ugly duckling' of the Transit family, its still better looking than most other vans on offer, drives better, and, in my opinion, is a better all round package. theres a reason the Transit outsells the next best selling van by 3 units to 1! you dont sell that many if theyre cr@p, consistently for 50 years (or so). a friend who owns a fleet of Merc vans (he is a bg fan of the Sprinters) even has a Transit on his fleet, which is the van he uses himself!
I didn't read that comment and I probably don't need to.
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@@CorpsMedia poor old Pete probably never been in a van if he thinks the Transit is more comfortable than the Transporter. Nice try Pete but you fell at the first 😂😂
@@denty32 he said transit was more comfortable. thats how it read to me
@@louismac1 I didn’t have to read all of he’s comment to know he’s never driven a transporter
All are junk. Nothing compares to toyota.
The T5 will be worth more, but you paid more, so why is this an argument? Also, it will only be worth more, if it lives long enough. These VW engines are known to be hugely unreliable, the more horsepower, the worse it gets. Head gaskets, turbos, whole blocks being warped. And that are issues based in the very construction of the engines, so there simply is no fixing this, only managing. It's a nightmare really. There are whole companies who are specialized in fixing VW Bus engines. They really know their sh*te and even they say, that VW regularly drops the ball by simply making the engines not thermally stable, hence getting too hot and dying from as early as 60000km on. Plus they are terrible to work on and VW keeps the licences for spare parts and documentation for as long as possible, making it even more expensive to repair those transporters. Add to that the countless other quality issues, the high price and VWs terrible warranty and customer service and you really have to ask yourself: Why bother?