I know around 6 years ago when Sword of Azrael was not included in this omnibus, many people theorized that DC would release a Sword of Azrael OHC to accompany the Knightfall Omnis. Well, we are still waiting!
I had planned on picking this up for my birthday but just a few weeks ago I found a copy on eBay for $30! It wasn't in the best condition but it was fine for me! Plus it was sold by a guy who only lives like an hour and half from me so I got it the next day!
I'm definitely not. I've already bought this story twice and 150 is definitely steep for Knightfall part 1 with thinner pages. I mean, it's just Knightfall. Part 1! Damn, DC. Here's where I definitely slow down with jumping on new omnibus editions. This is just greedy.
They had a chance to get the spines to match the other two books. Nope. Come on, DC. Maybe if/when the next 2 volumes get reprints they'll match this one, but that seems unlikely.
Probably so people with the other volumes wouldn't just buy the new volume 1 so they'd match. I assume they'll reprint with this new spine in the hopes people will buy them all so they match
@@MatchesMalone98 nope, the old spines dont match too, they are part of the drawing on the cover so it will never be able to match with other spines. Looks horrible on the shelf. I had to print some custom dustjackets for my old prints of these omnibuses...
I hope DC plan on reprinting volumes 2 & 3 at some point. I would also love to see a deluxe edition HC that reprints Shaman, Venom and Sword of Azrael all in one volume. They are all important precursors to Knightfall.
I swear, Batman not calling Nightwing to defeat Bane was very, very dumb and it has no justification whatsoever. I mean, Jean Paul Valley is a guy he just met, and he knows Dick Grayson for ages!. And I always wonder, what if Batman wasn't tired and sick before fighting Bane ? Would he had beat him at that moment ?
I realized Santa Prisca is such a fascinating place. Bane was born here, and Question had his adventure here too. It has the potential to be DC's Madripool. Shame they never bother to explore the possibility.
Years back my sister had bought me the 3 thin trades which covered the run. Can't wait to read all the stories leading up to it. I'm most definitely getting this 👍 Thanks for the overview NMC
Reading those biographies on the inside flaps and realizing that half the creators have since passed away. 😐 Hopefully that Vol 3 reprint will return yet again a few years down the line.
Time for a re-read! I hope they collect the 90s Batman and Detective stories into compendium form. The early Caped Crusader and Dark Knight Detective trades seem to be out of print.
Here's my best attempt at giving you answers: 1.) They didn't include Sons of Azreal because this is a reprint. DC sends the same exact file to the printer. Easy-peesy. And... 2.) They cover art they already paid for. It isn't ugly. That's your opinion. Sorry you don't like it. DC would have to pay for new art, for this and two other volumes. They're not going to do that. Hope it helps.
@@thomasryan6240 I get both those things, but in all fairness those two things have been criticisms of these collections for a while now. And I'm not talking about the cover art in general, just the way the spines looked when lined up.
Asked twice during the recent lives stream if you knew whether these were getting a reprint (new collector and its one of the stories that have drawn my instant attention). Thankfully hopped on someone else's video and found Vol 1 was reprinted recently so managed to find a random site with two copies left to be able to order from 🤞 hopefully turns up in decent condition. Praying they reprint the second two volumes to accompany this, as I've heard how rare they can be to get hold of, especially the third
@@NearMintCondition Appreciated 🙂 I do recall seeing at least two of the trilogy in my local comic book store last year (Forbidden Planet in the UK) but no longer in stock since actually taking the plunge into collecting/reading 😞
@@renatoperocchio4508 yeah but a lot of their problems are of their making, Marvel and DC. And I think everyone is hurting and gouging their fans isn’t the way to go. I know I’ve cut back a lot and won’t by the books if they are going to increase prices by 1/3. This one was 100$ in 2017, so that’s a 50 increase in 6 years.
@@DrakonR yea I know about inflation, I’m not Tom Brady. Anyway, I think it’s also being used up gouge people, we just accept that it’s because of inflation not greedy companies wanting to make a bit more. And what you don’t trust the government… why not they never lie… 🙈🙉🙊
@@DrakonR true but comics have rapidly risen in price due to "variant cover" purchase requirements Shops can't make money and prices go up to reflect that. Inflation just made it worse
My first omnibus ordered from CGN. My friend at the time got me into Batman during this run. I'm more of a Marvel fan, but I read most of the this trilogy.
I am new to this, and I want to know what is the difference between this omnibus version 1 and the regular Knightfall vol. 1? Should I read the omnibus version rather than the regular version?
I read that nightfall wasnt great but i am really interested in these dystopian "lost/dead hero" stories Can someone give me an unbiased pro con list on this ans if its worth it for me to dive into (new to omnibus reading but am definitely not new to DC and batman)
I love Knightfall. It shows Batman as a man, who can be broken, and rise again. It shows that not just anyone can be Batman. If the wrong guy wears the cowl, he won't be able to handle it. The cons are that it is too long in the second act. Bruce's recovery may seem a little too comic booky. The choice of his successor is a little weird. I know the first printing had some binding issues. Even when I picked one of the original omnis up at an lcs, the binding seemed very unstable. I love this story. Hope this helps!
@@paulmcgrew2932 it really does, maybe I'll get it if it's available after my current Omni list, I'm reading Superior Spiderman, silver surfer by Slott and Allred and have mile Morales by Saladin Ahmed waiting (I'm a little over eager)
Besides them both missing Sword of Azrael, are the collected trade paperback series better than the omnis, when it comes to what’s collected and ordered by?
I always wondered if you do doble dipping or in this cases when the new printing it’s almost the same as the old one you just show us the new print for display purposes 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@NearMintCondition Not complaining just asking I’m all love here. You’re my favorite channel on TH-cam. I think you do a fantastic job. I figured/thought you had some kind of help, so that is surprising with all the reading and editing plus life with your family and all other aspects is crazy I salute you. Plus another commenter linked the time stamp and I am just blind it looks like. That early morning grog struggle before first cup of coffee as I streaming your fantastic overview is real lol.
@@NearMintCondition Thank you i missed it somehow. I kept skipping it back like i was crazy or something. But only saw the old printing. While I have you though do you think we will be seeing a “Blankets 20th anniversary” hardcover overview though?
I like you said “every man has a breaking point” immediately after giving out the $150 price. Yes, that tends to be mine.
in Australia we are being paying $200 to $250 . its getting ridiculous
@@ashleyn1979 I know. I lived in Melbourne for 2 years. Didn’t buy a single Omni in that time
@@garyfoster65 Im down to 1 omni a month if i can get a deal lol!
@ashleyn1979 literally, its absurd
This really should’ve included the Sword of Azreal miniseries!
It really makes no sense why it wasn’t included. When I read by copy of this omnibus a few years ago I read the Sword of Azreal trade first. 👍🏼
Unfortunately they never included everything
I know around 6 years ago when Sword of Azrael was not included in this omnibus, many people theorized that DC would release a Sword of Azrael OHC to accompany the Knightfall Omnis. Well, we are still waiting!
Because DC
Have faith Minties, Sword of Azrael Omni....or at least Deluxe
The price increase is unacceptable. As are recent omnibus prices in general. Time to read all the stuff collected during the last years I guess.
It`s great to see a classic 80/90´S Batman Omnibus! Hope for a Neil Adams omnibus reprint.
Yes, I can finally start collecting the best 90’s stories.
I had planned on picking this up for my birthday but just a few weeks ago I found a copy on eBay for $30! It wasn't in the best condition but it was fine for me! Plus it was sold by a guy who only lives like an hour and half from me so I got it the next day!
I'm definitely not. I've already bought this story twice and 150 is definitely steep for Knightfall part 1 with thinner pages. I mean, it's just Knightfall. Part 1! Damn, DC. Here's where I definitely slow down with jumping on new omnibus editions. This is just greedy.
They had a chance to get the spines to match the other two books. Nope. Come on, DC.
Maybe if/when the next 2 volumes get reprints they'll match this one, but that seems unlikely.
Probably so people with the other volumes wouldn't just buy the new volume 1 so they'd match. I assume they'll reprint with this new spine in the hopes people will buy them all so they match
@@MatchesMalone98 nope, the old spines dont match too, they are part of the drawing on the cover so it will never be able to match with other spines. Looks horrible on the shelf. I had to print some custom dustjackets for my old prints of these omnibuses...
Hope they reprint Vol 2 and 3
Absolutely.
Need that volume 3 reprint DC! been waiting on that for years now.
Same lol
I REALLY need to get the Knightfall Trilogy one day!
Graham Nolan definitely should have done the cover, Omar.😎
Thanks for the review today. Since I only have 1 more day to decide to buy this one. Before the sale ends.
I hope DC plan on reprinting volumes 2 & 3 at some point. I would also love to see a deluxe edition HC that reprints Shaman, Venom and Sword of Azrael all in one volume. They are all important precursors to Knightfall.
I should have purchased this one when the first printing was released. Thanks for the overview, Omar!
Great stuff! Love the hardcover. Have only seen the paperback. Glad I have a chance at getting it
I swear, Batman not calling Nightwing to defeat Bane was very, very dumb and it has no justification whatsoever. I mean, Jean Paul Valley is a guy he just met, and he knows Dick Grayson for ages!. And I always wonder, what if Batman wasn't tired and sick before fighting Bane ? Would he had beat him at that moment ?
Maybe that's why. He knew dick couldn't beat him and didn't want to put him in danger. Batmans overprotective is one of the reasons dick left
Thats what the story implies. That Bane needed to weaken Batman significantly to beat him.
I realized Santa Prisca is such a fascinating place. Bane was born here, and Question had his adventure here too. It has the potential to be DC's Madripool. Shame they never bother to explore the possibility.
I really need that Vol 3. C'mon DC need you to at least have it in the catalog.
Years back my sister had bought me the 3 thin trades which covered the run. Can't wait to read all the stories leading up to it. I'm most definitely getting this 👍
Thanks for the overview NMC
Hopefully we'll get a Sword of Azrael deluxe edition someday, especially since Joe Quesada is available now to do a new cover.
Jim Aparo Batman art means i have to buy it. 😂
I got sick of waiting for these reprints and got the compendiums. I’m happy with it
The big thick trades? I used to have those. Loved them.
@@NearMintCondition yup! It helped me being economical and with my impatience
Reading those biographies on the inside flaps and realizing that half the creators have since passed away. 😐
Hopefully that Vol 3 reprint will return yet again a few years down the line.
what do you guys think of the story? It wasn't on a top list of batman books I saw recently
Time for a re-read! I hope they collect the 90s Batman and Detective stories into compendium form. The early Caped Crusader and Dark Knight Detective trades seem to be out of print.
I hope the spurs reprints of Vols. 2 and 3.
Get back to me when they decide to reprint the 3rd volume. Doubt they ever will though.
I already have volumes 1 & 2. I need volume 3. It's been unavailable for years now.
Cool! I already started collecting this story but vol 2 was/is oop. Hopefully they reprint vol2 and vol3
Extra 50 USD for a reprint w/ thinner pages? Tough sell lol. No thanks
Will vols 2 and 3 also be reprinted?
Why?!?!? We need Volume 3 right now! I can still get volumes 1-2 for below cover. But 3 is not available anywhere
Wow, I canr wait for volume 2, this looks incredible
Now we need to know when volume 2 and 3 are getting reprinted
I have to wonder why they didn’t add Sword of Azrael or change those ugly spines
Here's my best attempt at giving you answers:
1.) They didn't include Sons of Azreal because this is a reprint. DC sends the same exact file to the printer. Easy-peesy. And...
2.) They cover art they already paid for. It isn't ugly. That's your opinion. Sorry you don't like it. DC would have to pay for new art, for this and two other volumes. They're not going to do that.
Hope it helps.
@@thomasryan6240 I get both those things, but in all fairness those two things have been criticisms of these collections for a while now. And I'm not talking about the cover art in general, just the way the spines looked when lined up.
I hope if they re release vol 2 they fix the glaring printing error that has tainted that volume.
What page? What was the error?
Thanks
@@forsakenV12 legends of the dark knight issue 61. Pages 3 and 4 are out of order.
Hey, Omar. Thanks, question... Would you do a comparison between this omni and the tpb of 640 pages? Are those 300 pages somehow important?
There are more issues collected in this omnibus than the trades.
They are the set up to Knightfall. Where Bane his squad are scheming and interacting with Riddler and Killer Croc.
Now just give me Volume 3 reprinted!
Asked twice during the recent lives stream if you knew whether these were getting a reprint (new collector and its one of the stories that have drawn my instant attention).
Thankfully hopped on someone else's video and found Vol 1 was reprinted recently so managed to find a random site with two copies left to be able to order from 🤞 hopefully turns up in decent condition.
Praying they reprint the second two volumes to accompany this, as I've heard how rare they can be to get hold of, especially the third
No word yet about volume 2 and 3. But I’m sure those will come.
@@NearMintCondition Appreciated 🙂
I do recall seeing at least two of the trilogy in my local comic book store last year (Forbidden Planet in the UK) but no longer in stock since actually taking the plunge into collecting/reading 😞
Another book with the "Batman Tax" .has batman will charge more
Bring on Knightfall Vol 3, as that the one im missing
Expensive, but that art might make it worth it.
I would be interested, but 150$ for a 800ish page omnibus is kind of ridiculous.
I think this is the new wave for Omnis, the comic world is hurting and the prices reflect it (that's my opinion)
@@renatoperocchio4508 yeah but a lot of their problems are of their making, Marvel and DC. And I think everyone is hurting and gouging their fans isn’t the way to go. I know I’ve cut back a lot and won’t by the books if they are going to increase prices by 1/3. This one was 100$ in 2017, so that’s a 50 increase in 6 years.
It's called inflation, and everyone is paying the price for thinking the government had people's interest at heart during a recent global event.
@@DrakonR yea I know about inflation, I’m not Tom Brady. Anyway, I think it’s also being used up gouge people, we just accept that it’s because of inflation not greedy companies wanting to make a bit more. And what you don’t trust the government… why not they never lie… 🙈🙉🙊
@@DrakonR true but comics have rapidly risen in price due to "variant cover" purchase requirements
Shops can't make money and prices go up to reflect that. Inflation just made it worse
so i always wondered where that part was where bane enters the house and is confronted by alfred.
My first omnibus ordered from CGN. My friend at the time got me into Batman during this run. I'm more of a Marvel fan, but I read most of the this trilogy.
I love this story! Truly great stuff!
I want get this but as I still have all the floppies there are more on my omnibus Wishlist before this.
So, no extras in the new printing that were not in the original printing?
When are we getting a Reprint For vol 3 it's Impossible to find
I am new to this, and I want to know what is the difference between this omnibus version 1 and the regular Knightfall vol. 1? Should I read the omnibus version rather than the regular version?
I read that nightfall wasnt great but i am really interested in these dystopian "lost/dead hero" stories
Can someone give me an unbiased pro con list on this ans if its worth it for me to dive into (new to omnibus reading but am definitely not new to DC and batman)
I love Knightfall. It shows Batman as a man, who can be broken, and rise again. It shows that not just anyone can be Batman. If the wrong guy wears the cowl, he won't be able to handle it. The cons are that it is too long in the second act. Bruce's recovery may seem a little too comic booky. The choice of his successor is a little weird. I know the first printing had some binding issues. Even when I picked one of the original omnis up at an lcs, the binding seemed very unstable. I love this story. Hope this helps!
@@paulmcgrew2932 it really does, maybe I'll get it if it's available after my current Omni list, I'm reading Superior Spiderman, silver surfer by Slott and Allred and have mile Morales by Saladin Ahmed waiting
(I'm a little over eager)
Besides them both missing Sword of Azrael, are the collected trade paperback series better than the omnis, when it comes to what’s collected and ordered by?
I always wondered if you do doble dipping or in this cases when the new printing it’s almost the same as the old one you just show us the new print for display purposes 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I hope they reprint Volumes 2 & 3
Recently bought this with the absolute Batman Court Of Owls. Cannot wait to see the beautys🙏🙏🙏
Nice 😀
Are thay reprinting volume 2and 3 to
I hope so. Just got this one for the first time. Be a shame not to get the whole saga.
Nothing yet. But I’m sure they will come.
You didn’t even show the eye of the new printing though? Just the old printing, why?
@MotaboT has you.
He did show it, though. 20:35
@@NearMintCondition Not complaining just asking I’m all love here. You’re my favorite channel on TH-cam. I think you do a fantastic job. I figured/thought you had some kind of help, so that is surprising with all the reading and editing plus life with your family and all other aspects is crazy I salute you. Plus another commenter linked the time stamp and I am just blind it looks like. That early morning grog struggle before first cup of coffee as I streaming your fantastic overview is real lol.
@@MotaboT thank you! The early morning grog as I was watching this is real lol. Great review still and Omar sold me on it!
@@NearMintCondition Thank you i missed it somehow. I kept skipping it back like i was crazy or something. But only saw the old printing. While I have you though do you think we will be seeing a “Blankets 20th anniversary” hardcover overview though?
This I had to get a nice big fat omnibus book of epic Batman story event with beautiful art works.
Great video podcast Omar 🦹♂️🦇📚👍👍
Nice film
You're so Bane, you probably think this book is about you
😂😂😂😂😂