I purchased my Pro100S about 5 years ago when this model had already been available for several years prior. For sure it was obvious that a replacement model would eventually appear ( and indeed it did in the form of the Pro200 ) so do I have buyers remorse? Well, of course not, is the pro200 better, probably, but by what margin and would it have been worth not owning my Pro100 and instead waited the almost three years that passed just to get the lastest version on release? I doubt many could ever discern a difference in quality between my Pro100 and the newest Pro200. I suspect a future Pro200 mkII ( maybe Pro250 or Pro200S ) will not be light years ahead of the current Pro200 either. So really, why wait, unless an official announcement has been made of a replacement being imminent. Buy what your budget allows now and learn as much as possible. Knowledge is really the biggest defining difference between printer results in my opinion.
Excellent approach - the improvements for the 100>200 were mostly usability related, and a fixing of Canon's very conservative approach to 'safe margins' on better/art papers.
Your knowledge and experience are invaluable to fledglings looking to get into printing. Thank you for sharing with the world. I'm looking at getting my first real printer (not counting the 60$ standard HP printer in my closet). It will be an investment. I'll be using it for fine art printing, and am looking at the P300 as my likely choice. The P1000 is incredible, but I'm not sure the $400 difference is justifiable when I don't have an immediate need for 17x22 print size. I figured I would start with 13X19 and revisit a P1000 in the future.
I have a Pro-10 that I've used with great success for 5 years now. One thing I did do to lower my costs was to refill my carts with Precision Colors ink. I have 2 1/2 complete sets of Canon cartridges so I can have one set in the printer and another set ready to go. When one cartridge needs replacing I replace all 10 at the same time and reset and refill all of the cartridges I just removed. It did take a bit of work to dial in the colours properly, particularly with regard to the blacks, but I'm very pleased with the results. I print quite a bit and the price of Canon inks for the Pro-10 is just crazy. I'd love to move up to a printer that accepts roll paper and is at least 17" wide. But it would need large tanks to make printing more economical.
Did you make all new printer profiles? It's one of the big things which puts me off third party inks, since they are not the same as OEM, no matter what the sellers say ;-)
@@KeithCooper Yes, I do Keith. I use Lightroom. On Pro 10 properties under Quick Setup I select Color/intensity Manual Adjustment then go to the Main Tabe. I manually set up the colour intensity, different settings for colour and B&W Colour: Cyan: 19, Magenta: -14, Yellow: -3, Brightness: Normal, Intensity: -3 Contrast: 5, B&W: Tone x: 17, y: 36, Intensity: 0, Contrast: 8, I go back to Quick Setup, then select media type, print quality, paper size, then click save and give it a name, usually the paper and size I am using. Occasionally I need to tweak the intensity and contrast but that's about it. I just recieved 10 new inks from Precisions Colour so I will soon find out if the new inks match the old. (Incidentally, I use a BENQ SW2700PT with 2 custom setting: WP is D65, gamma is 2.2, and the luminance for one is 120 and the other 132.
Always interesting. The Canon 24" might be one I will look at for my personal mixed / photo hobby usage case. I have an HP MFP (bought for small office tasks mainly) that's very long in the tooth and so something newer is in the pipeline soon enough anyway.
What I would like to see is a bigger model of the ET-8550, i.e. a tank printer for A2 or even larger. But I'm fairly sure that none of the print vendors want to cut into their ink margin.
Probably buying an Epson ET-8550 for the Black Friday discount. I wish it came in black in the U.S. Seems to be the best ink tank printer I could get for photography unless there’s any other recommendations 🤔
For general purpose use it's hard to beat - If you've not seen the main [written] review, it has a lot more info about getting the best out of the printer www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
@@KeithCooper Thanks so much such a great resource. Your website and videos are going to be a big help! I am now trying to decide between the 8550 and 8500. You mentioned in an 8550 video that, that was the smallest size printer you'd get. Wondering why? 🤔 As a pro videographer, perhaps a pro photographer could help in my decision 💚 Currently in a tiny nyc apartment, but the idea of being able to print large photos in the future at will does seem nice
Purely about print size. If I've a picture I want to print, then rarely do I want it as small as A4 Go and look at an 8550, pick one up - it's pretty compact@@Mike0193Azul
Great discussion. I am doing a lot more photography now, so felt the next step was to get a more capable photo printer. The et8550 was probably my original choice until jagos art had issues with several papers. After seeing how many people this affected, i contacted marrutt who said 'a lot of epsom users were having issues with a wide range of papers'. I contacted epsom who simply said 'use rear tray' but that hasnt helped JagosArt. So i thought ^next rung up^ might be the answer. So pro200/300 or p700/900. I dont think that i have space for the p900 so hoping santa might bring a p700. The canons put me off with smaller carts and more frequent purging. (Fotospeed ink use test). Sorry, rambling.. my point is that when spending £600-£800 on a photo printer, surely decent paper handling should be a given. How can epsom be happy with a significant number of users being restricted on paper choice? The cost of ink cartridges is enough of a penalty, but buying a speciality photo printer that may or may not like your preferred paper is madness. Thanks boss
Thanks - there is an aspect of success of the 8550 which I think might have somewhat caught out Epson. I don't think it was planned [market wise] as a good quality photo/art printer, more as a 'home printer' where paper and quality expectations would be lower. The printers I've had here and tested have mostly been pretty good in paper handling, but I've had enough people ask about issues that I'm hoping that Epson puts a bit more effort into paper handling in new designs. That said you choose the paper after choosing the printer - not everything works, I simply don't expect ti. Printers are still getting better - but I still stand by saying if you can't get good prints out of a modern printer, it's almost certainly your own fault ;-)
That one on my desk is from the 1990's :-) Just a prop - referring to the new Epson 13000 which I'm hoping to look at next year. I do have some V850 reviews from when it came out and a video or two from more recently. I also have a print scanner to look at, at some point [depends on when I get all the prints to look at from my Father's house...]
I have an Epson P600 for DTF and feeding film sheets into it is a nightmare. Have to basically manually help it every time. Yes I know it's not meant for it. They use the 4900 for DTF too which prints nice but to me it looked like the internals of the DTG Epson F2000 (dry cap etc), they would clog up because of the white ink and heads were costly, so it's interesting you say the new 5300 will use P900 internals and I wonder if they'll make a DTG printer with the same setup based on that.
I am thinking btw canon pro300 and canon pro1000. But when thinking about ink replacement the pro1000 way expensive wondering if it worst to feed. Can you help recommend btw that two brand please🙏
Purely dependent on uses See www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-1000-printer-review/ And here www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
i have a question regarding inks. when i get an ICC profile i am ask is i am using the makers ink. my question is ...are the better inks to use other than the printer manufacturer? and is the a good reason to change?
For myself there is no good reason to use any other ink than the manufacturer's inks - they would indeed need all new profiles. The only exception for me would be a specialist ink set for B&W printing, but that's quite a specialised use.
We need dye ink printers larger than 13", since pigment ink prohibits luster and metallic papers from projecting the image into the room. Many aren't printing on paper anymore, because metal prints have taken over, since they reflect. Since the Canon Pro-200 has the best color gamut with their 8 inks, at the very least a 17" version would be appreciated, and also a 24".
PRO-2100 is very similar to the PRO-2000 I reviewed several years ago - no sign of a replacement as yet. The GP2000 is a graphics printer - that fluorescent pink is pretty much un-profileable in normal use ;-) I'm waiting for an update to to PRO 1000/2100/4100 which will show where they are taking the line.
I've been happy with my P900 so far, however I ran into the issue of the rollpaper unit not handling my heavy Canson roll. This is pretty annoying. So the P5300, once it turns up, will replace my P900 for sure.
Hi Keith the roll paper feed on the p5000 is so good never let me down on a side note and sorry for off topic but my p5000 checks the nozzles every time I fire her up is there anyway to stop this ? as I would like to decide for my self thanks Jamie. @@KeithCooper
I would like to know: Why do you expect the Epson 5300 to need less maintenance than previous models? Does the ink not dry up as easily? If so, how are they now achieving this for pigment ink printers? Thanks!
I'd expect the 5300 to behave as the P900/P700 in this respect - the print head [and associated systems] used for the 700/900 is designed more for consumer levels of use. The 700/900 is just better with respect to this than the P5000 - pigment has nothing to do with this.
No, that one just happens to be one from the 1970's I brought back from my Father's house as we've started to clear it. That's where all the slides [35mm] and prints will come from. It appears in the video as a prop and to remind me to talk about scanners/slides [my videos are never scripted]
Thanks - I'd suggest also checking my main [written] review - it has links to all my pro200 related videos and articles: www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/
I’m quite interested in new printing technology, but I still like to search for older printers. I enjoy upcycling for personal use and have successfully restored a few older printers to working condition. Currently, I’m using a 15-year-old EPSON printer and am quite satisfied with its performance. For commercial work, I would stick to newer printers, but I have also noticed that larger, more expensive ones tend to receive longer support so upgrading is rarely a concern.
As always informative, thanks Keith. One question, do you have any idea how much canon pro300 purges ink every time we change cartridge? To me seems really big deal, and only reason I am toward using 3rd party ink and swap the whole set instead of 9 times purges. Thanks
Yes, I noticed this again when firing up the PRO-300. One ink was out and three others, low or indicating low. I replaced the lot Perhaps a 10% loss in the ones not absolutely needing replacing - it's the printer's biggest failing
@@KeithCooper I weighed mine when it was showing empty and it was at 19.7 grams, a full one weights at 32 grams, the ones that were just showing they need replacement were at anything from 21 to 23 grams and I swapped them because if I didn’t they would have gone into empty after going through a purge period. I believe the downside of small cartridge and purge cycle is bigger that we see. I got almost 40 A4 from my cartridge set which is not that great! Cheers
Cannon should make A3 and A2 big tank printers for home/office use. It does not need more and more inks, the G640 for example is excellent for home printing. They would sell much more printers/inks and generate much more revenue if they offer cheaper options to soho user to print their photos on larger papers.
I'm sure they would be welcomed, as long as they keep working colour management. I would like to see a tank version of the PRO-300, but it would not be a cheap printer to buy
I’m agree on Canon Pro300. Cartridges are expensive but small. And I print only on A4 format and sometimes A3. So not big deal. But their system of cartridges are old concept. On a pro printer … 🤯
I'm also curious - HP got out of the 'better photo printer' market years ago, and seem to have no interest in promoting the Z9 et al. I've asked several time, but silence... Anyone from HP? Give me a call about lending me one? - I'd love to include more than Canon/Epson in my reviews, but I can't afford to buy printers! [nor would I be allowed to live in a printer warehouse]
I'm very happy with my Canon TC-20 with premium Epson paper. All Canon consumables are extremely overpriced, but printing is great. The only problem I have with it is with software. For some reason there's no Color matching tab in the printing settings on my laptop, but it does show up on my main PC. Go figure.
Hi Keith! The Canons TC-20/30 - TM200/300 are now being announced to be replaced by the brand new TM-250/350s. Aside from having a larger and easier to use touchscreen, using a different magenta ink and being somewhat faster, I am yet to get any further information on them or being able to find any written or video reviews yet. Do you have any extra information on these new printers and are they a justifiable upgrade over the current models (that are now being already offered at lower prices)? I am personally on the market for a TM-350 that I will be using on a fairly low volume monthly printing environment and I was wondering if its worth the purchase, or instead if I should save-up on a few hundred pounds and just buy the (now) older model? Thanks for all your always amazing informative videos, Michael :)
Thanks very much for making these videos, they're always excellent. This one's no exception, but it has left me with a question. I'm currently using a 14-year-old Epson Photo R1900 and whilst I'm happy with its performance (my only issue being that it won't handle some thicker papers) I have nothing to compare it with, so, before watching your video, I'd assumed that technology would have moved on to the point that it might be worth considering replacing it. I realise that there might not be a straightforward answer to this, but does your comment about not replacing a working printer apply to machines of this vintage, or is there a "cut-off point" where a user would notice obvious improvements?
I´m interested in a better printer than Epson P900 for BW intermittent use as 1-2 times per month as an amateur A2 and A3. I need to get a 27" monitor before a printer. I will get a printer in 3 year
@@KeithCooper I like to be updated. I never know if I get a good price on a monitor/printer and got some extra money left over. Just got one lens left to update and then I have to decide if my old monitor is good enouth. I like to start printing as soon as possible.
I'm planning to get the Pro-200 this week, you have any idea how many A3+ prints it can do before the carts run out? I know it varies but a range would be helpful coz I live in a place where carts are twice the price and it's availability is very intermitent. I really like your channel as there're only a few people reviewing photo printers. happy holidays to you sir! 🎉
I don't have that data I'm afraid - my testing was very varied. You can reverse engineer an idea about this by looking at the data here [and how it was derived] www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
I have a Epsom R2880 never had any trouble with it but need to replace it unfortunately, due to new Mac Studio, what would be a good replacement, Thank you,
I generally disagree - there are many good printers out there and I'd not choose to try 3rd party inks in them anyway. But requirements vary so obviously YMMV
@@KeithCooper sorry Keith, but I fully disagree. Consumers should have the right of choice. End of story. It's about time governments started to actually enforce existing anti-competitive legislation instead of sitting on their lazy pro corporation asses and screwing consumers.
Sure, but I'm just testing the results I get from the printers as printers. I'll leave concerns on other matters for people to decide if they want to buy one...
@@KeithCooperMy Only exposure to third party inks was with my first printer the ubiquitous Pro 100. The prints were okay, but not as good as OEM inks.
If a printer manufacturer brings out an eco tank proper photo printer with 8 ink sets or ten, it would be a huge success. But they're not going to kill the golden goose
Great news.
I have loads of old negative to scan into my computer. look forward to your videos!
Just check the price of the 13000 before you get too carried away ;-)
Good video and information Keith.
Thanks
0:52 on repeat over and over ❤
Thanks ;-) :-)
I purchased my Pro100S about 5 years ago when this model had already been available for several years prior. For sure it was obvious that a replacement model would eventually appear ( and indeed it did in the form of the Pro200 ) so do I have buyers remorse? Well, of course not, is the pro200 better, probably, but by what margin and would it have been worth not owning my Pro100 and instead waited the almost three years that passed just to get the lastest version on release? I doubt many could ever discern a difference in quality between my Pro100 and the newest Pro200. I suspect a future Pro200 mkII ( maybe Pro250 or Pro200S ) will not be light years ahead of the current Pro200 either. So really, why wait, unless an official announcement has been made of a replacement being imminent. Buy what your budget allows now and learn as much as possible. Knowledge is really the biggest defining difference between printer results in my opinion.
Excellent approach - the improvements for the 100>200 were mostly usability related, and a fixing of Canon's very conservative approach to 'safe margins' on better/art papers.
Your knowledge and experience are invaluable to fledglings looking to get into printing. Thank you for sharing with the world. I'm looking at getting my first real printer (not counting the 60$ standard HP printer in my closet). It will be an investment. I'll be using it for fine art printing, and am looking at the P300 as my likely choice. The P1000 is incredible, but I'm not sure the $400 difference is justifiable when I don't have an immediate need for 17x22 print size. I figured I would start with 13X19 and revisit a P1000 in the future.
Yes, the 300 is pretty good - see my main [written] review for a lot more info
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/
I have a Pro-10 that I've used with great success for 5 years now. One thing I did do to lower my costs was to refill my carts with Precision Colors ink. I have 2 1/2 complete sets of Canon cartridges so I can have one set in the printer and another set ready to go. When one cartridge needs replacing I replace all 10 at the same time and reset and refill all of the cartridges I just removed. It did take a bit of work to dial in the colours properly, particularly with regard to the blacks, but I'm very pleased with the results. I print quite a bit and the price of Canon inks for the Pro-10 is just crazy. I'd love to move up to a printer that accepts roll paper and is at least 17" wide. But it would need large tanks to make printing more economical.
Did you make all new printer profiles? It's one of the big things which puts me off third party inks, since they are not the same as OEM, no matter what the sellers say ;-)
@@KeithCooper Yes, I do Keith.
I use Lightroom. On Pro 10 properties under Quick Setup I select Color/intensity Manual Adjustment then go to the Main Tabe. I manually set up the colour intensity, different settings for colour and B&W
Colour:
Cyan: 19,
Magenta: -14,
Yellow: -3,
Brightness: Normal,
Intensity: -3
Contrast: 5,
B&W:
Tone
x: 17,
y: 36,
Intensity: 0,
Contrast: 8,
I go back to Quick Setup, then select media type, print quality, paper size, then click save and give it a name, usually the paper and size I am using. Occasionally I need to tweak the intensity and contrast but that's about it. I just recieved 10 new inks from Precisions Colour so I will soon find out if the new inks match the old.
(Incidentally, I use a BENQ SW2700PT with 2 custom setting: WP is D65, gamma is 2.2, and the luminance for one is 120 and the other 132.
Always interesting. The Canon 24" might be one I will look at for my personal mixed / photo hobby usage case. I have an HP MFP (bought for small office tasks mainly) that's very long in the tooth and so something newer is in the pipeline soon enough anyway.
I've a few videos looking at the TC-20M if you're curious. I'll have a proper review in due course
What I would like to see is a bigger model of the ET-8550, i.e. a tank printer for A2 or even larger. But I'm fairly sure that none of the print vendors want to cut into their ink margin.
Yes, the 24" TC-20m I'm currently testing is only four ink, but is tank based - we are moving there slowly...
Probably buying an Epson ET-8550 for the Black Friday discount. I wish it came in black in the U.S. Seems to be the best ink tank printer I could get for photography unless there’s any other recommendations 🤔
For general purpose use it's hard to beat - If you've not seen the main [written] review, it has a lot more info about getting the best out of the printer
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
@@KeithCooper Thanks so much such a great resource. Your website and videos are going to be a big help! I am now trying to decide between the 8550 and 8500. You mentioned in an 8550 video that, that was the smallest size printer you'd get. Wondering why? 🤔 As a pro videographer, perhaps a pro photographer could help in my decision 💚 Currently in a tiny nyc apartment, but the idea of being able to print large photos in the future at will does seem nice
Purely about print size. If I've a picture I want to print, then rarely do I want it as small as A4
Go and look at an 8550, pick one up - it's pretty compact@@Mike0193Azul
Great discussion. I am doing a lot more photography now, so felt the next step was to get a more capable photo printer. The et8550 was probably my original choice until jagos art had issues with several papers. After seeing how many people this affected, i contacted marrutt who said 'a lot of epsom users were having issues with a wide range of papers'. I contacted epsom who simply said 'use rear tray' but that hasnt helped JagosArt.
So i thought ^next rung up^ might be the answer. So pro200/300 or p700/900. I dont think that i have space for the p900 so hoping santa might bring a p700. The canons put me off with smaller carts and more frequent purging. (Fotospeed ink use test).
Sorry, rambling.. my point is that when spending £600-£800 on a photo printer, surely decent paper handling should be a given. How can epsom be happy with a significant number of users being restricted on paper choice? The cost of ink cartridges is enough of a penalty, but buying a speciality photo printer that may or may not like your preferred paper is madness.
Thanks boss
Thanks - there is an aspect of success of the 8550 which I think might have somewhat caught out Epson. I don't think it was planned [market wise] as a good quality photo/art printer, more as a 'home printer' where paper and quality expectations would be lower.
The printers I've had here and tested have mostly been pretty good in paper handling, but I've had enough people ask about issues that I'm hoping that Epson puts a bit more effort into paper handling in new designs. That said you choose the paper after choosing the printer - not everything works, I simply don't expect ti.
Printers are still getting better - but I still stand by saying if you can't get good prints out of a modern printer, it's almost certainly your own fault ;-)
So what's up with the scanner on your desk and the one on the monitor? Is there a review in the works for tabloid sized flatbeds?
That one on my desk is from the 1990's :-) Just a prop - referring to the new Epson 13000 which I'm hoping to look at next year. I do have some V850 reviews from when it came out and a video or two from more recently.
I also have a print scanner to look at, at some point [depends on when I get all the prints to look at from my Father's house...]
Keith, it's been 8 months now. When does the replacement for the Canon Pro-1000 coming out? Wait or buy the 1000????
Not one I can answer I'm afraid
I have an Epson P600 for DTF and feeding film sheets into it is a nightmare. Have to basically manually help it every time. Yes I know it's not meant for it.
They use the 4900 for DTF too which prints nice but to me it looked like the internals of the DTG Epson F2000 (dry cap etc), they would clog up because of the white ink and heads were costly, so it's interesting you say the new 5300 will use P900 internals and I wonder if they'll make a DTG printer with the same setup based on that.
That's not a market sector I know well, but they are definitely putting more effort into it
I am thinking btw canon pro300 and canon pro1000. But when thinking about ink replacement the pro1000 way expensive wondering if it worst to feed. Can you help recommend btw that two brand please🙏
Purely dependent on uses
See
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-1000-printer-review/
And here
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
i have a question regarding inks. when i get an ICC profile i am ask is i am using the makers ink. my question is ...are the better inks to use other than the printer manufacturer? and is the a good reason to change?
For myself there is no good reason to use any other ink than the manufacturer's inks - they would indeed need all new profiles.
The only exception for me would be a specialist ink set for B&W printing, but that's quite a specialised use.
question answered. i was just confused as to why anyone would do it
Usually to save some money where final image quality is not the key driver ;-)
im good with canon inks was just unsure if there was better inks is all
@@KeithCooper
We need dye ink printers larger than 13", since pigment ink prohibits luster and metallic papers from projecting the image into the room. Many aren't printing on paper anymore, because metal prints have taken over, since they reflect.
Since the Canon Pro-200 has the best color gamut with their 8 inks, at the very least a 17" version would be appreciated, and also a 24".
Yes - this is something I regularly ask about. I can't say the reception mat is rolled out for me on this one... :-(
Have you heard anything about the new large format fine art printers from Canon. The Pro-2100 or the GP-2000?
PRO-2100 is very similar to the PRO-2000 I reviewed several years ago - no sign of a replacement as yet.
The GP2000 is a graphics printer - that fluorescent pink is pretty much un-profileable in normal use ;-)
I'm waiting for an update to to PRO 1000/2100/4100 which will show where they are taking the line.
I've been happy with my P900 so far, however I ran into the issue of the rollpaper unit not handling my heavy Canson roll. This is pretty annoying. So the P5300, once it turns up, will replace my P900 for sure.
The roll paper handling of the P5000 is very good, so I'm hoping the 5300 will be the same
Hi Keith the roll paper feed on the p5000 is so good never let me down on a side note and sorry for off topic but my p5000 checks the nozzles every time I fire her up is there anyway to stop this ? as I would like to decide for my self thanks Jamie. @@KeithCooper
The Epson 8550 is $200 off on Amazon. Mine will be here tomorrow .
Have fun!
I would like to know: Why do you expect the Epson 5300 to need less maintenance than previous models? Does the ink not dry up as easily? If so, how are they now achieving this for pigment ink printers? Thanks!
I'd expect the 5300 to behave as the P900/P700 in this respect - the print head [and associated systems] used for the 700/900 is designed more for consumer levels of use.
The 700/900 is just better with respect to this than the P5000 - pigment has nothing to do with this.
Keith, can your slide viewer accommodate medium format slides? Does it use batteries?
No, that one just happens to be one from the 1970's I brought back from my Father's house as we've started to clear it. That's where all the slides [35mm] and prints will come from.
It appears in the video as a prop and to remind me to talk about scanners/slides [my videos are never scripted]
Hi im just getting the Canon PIXMA PRO-200 A3 Plus Colour Photo Wireless Printer any advice many thanks
great channel
Thanks - I'd suggest also checking my main [written] review - it has links to all my pro200 related videos and articles:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/
I’m quite interested in new printing technology, but I still like to search for older printers. I enjoy upcycling for personal use and have successfully restored a few older printers to working condition. Currently, I’m using a 15-year-old EPSON printer and am quite satisfied with its performance.
For commercial work, I would stick to newer printers, but I have also noticed that larger, more expensive ones tend to receive longer support so upgrading is rarely a concern.
Yes, some old printers just keep on going...
As always informative, thanks Keith. One question, do you have any idea how much canon pro300 purges ink every time we change cartridge? To me seems really big deal, and only reason I am toward using 3rd party ink and swap the whole set instead of 9 times purges.
Thanks
Yes, I noticed this again when firing up the PRO-300. One ink was out and three others, low or indicating low. I replaced the lot
Perhaps a 10% loss in the ones not absolutely needing replacing - it's the printer's biggest failing
@@KeithCooper I weighed mine when it was showing empty and it was at 19.7 grams, a full one weights at 32 grams, the ones that were just showing they need replacement were at anything from 21 to 23 grams and I swapped them because if I didn’t they would have gone into empty after going through a purge period. I believe the downside of small cartridge and purge cycle is bigger that we see. I got almost 40 A4 from my cartridge set which is not that great! Cheers
Cannon should make A3 and A2 big tank printers for home/office use. It does not need more and more inks, the G640 for example is excellent for home printing. They would sell much more printers/inks and generate much more revenue if they offer cheaper options to soho user to print their photos on larger papers.
I'm sure they would be welcomed, as long as they keep working colour management.
I would like to see a tank version of the PRO-300, but it would not be a cheap printer to buy
I’m agree on Canon Pro300. Cartridges are expensive but small. And I print only on A4 format and sometimes A3. So not big deal. But their system of cartridges are old concept. On a pro printer … 🤯
Yes - introduce a PRO300 with an ink system and it would be excellent, BUT I suspect a lot more expensive for the actual printer.
I have a Epson p600 . Is there going to be an issue with getting ink cartridges? Printer works great.
No time soon I'd say. So potential difficulties are years away, I'd hope
don't worry. I am still able to buy cartridges for my old Epson R3000 - one generation before your P600; I purchased it in 2012
What about HP professional printers? I don’t ever see anything about them. Just curious.
I'm also curious - HP got out of the 'better photo printer' market years ago, and seem to have no interest in promoting the Z9 et al.
I've asked several time, but silence...
Anyone from HP?
Give me a call about lending me one? - I'd love to include more than Canon/Epson in my reviews, but I can't afford to buy printers! [nor would I be allowed to live in a printer warehouse]
@@KeithCooper too bad. I’ll keep looking..
I'm very happy with my Canon TC-20 with premium Epson paper. All Canon consumables are extremely overpriced, but printing is great. The only problem I have with it is with software. For some reason there's no Color matching tab in the printing settings on my laptop, but it does show up on my main PC. Go figure.
Ah 'colour matching tab' ...is this a windows thing?
Colour management seems to work fine on the Macs I've tested the TC-20M with.
Hi Keith! The Canons TC-20/30 - TM200/300 are now being announced to be replaced by the brand new TM-250/350s. Aside from having a larger and easier to use touchscreen, using a different magenta ink and being somewhat faster, I am yet to get any further information on them or being able to find any written or video reviews yet. Do you have any extra information on these new printers and are they a justifiable upgrade over the current models (that are now being already offered at lower prices)? I am personally on the market for a TM-350 that I will be using on a fairly low volume monthly printing environment and I was wondering if its worth the purchase, or instead if I should save-up on a few hundred pounds and just buy the (now) older model? Thanks for all your always amazing informative videos, Michael :)
The TC-20M is the only printer of this sort I've looked at to date.
Most I see are out and out photo printers, so I've no info I'm afraid
Thanks very much for making these videos, they're always excellent. This one's no exception, but it has left me with a question. I'm currently using a 14-year-old Epson Photo R1900 and whilst I'm happy with its performance (my only issue being that it won't handle some thicker papers) I have nothing to compare it with, so, before watching your video, I'd assumed that technology would have moved on to the point that it might be worth considering replacing it. I realise that there might not be a straightforward answer to this, but does your comment about not replacing a working printer apply to machines of this vintage, or is there a "cut-off point" where a user would notice obvious improvements?
If it works and you're not running into problems - stick with it.
The 1900 has some good features - you'd likely not notice significant differences
Thanks Keith, much appreciated.@@KeithCooper
I´m interested in a better printer than Epson P900 for BW intermittent use as 1-2 times per month as an amateur A2 and A3. I need to get a 27" monitor before a printer. I will get a printer in 3 year
In three years? - then what's current is likely completely irrelevant...
@@KeithCooper I like to be updated. I never know if I get a good price on a monitor/printer and got some extra money left over. Just got one lens left to update and then I have to decide if my old monitor is good enouth. I like to start printing as soon as possible.
I'm planning to get the Pro-200 this week, you have any idea how many A3+ prints it can do before the carts run out?
I know it varies but a range would be helpful coz I live in a place where carts are twice the price and it's availability is very intermitent.
I really like your channel as there're only a few people reviewing photo printers. happy holidays to you sir! 🎉
I don't have that data I'm afraid - my testing was very varied.
You can reverse engineer an idea about this by looking at the data here [and how it was derived]
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
I just bought the ET-8550. Please don't make me buy another printer.
OK. What do you have?
I've had several - not as small as the 8550 though.
There's a P5000 not far from where I'm sitting...
I have a Epsom R2880 never had any trouble with it but need to replace it unfortunately, due to new Mac Studio, what would be a good replacement, Thank you,
any printer that uses anti competitive actions such as locking you into ONLY using their printer inks is NOT a good printer.
End of story.
I generally disagree - there are many good printers out there and I'd not choose to try 3rd party inks in them anyway.
But requirements vary so obviously YMMV
@@KeithCooper sorry Keith, but I fully disagree. Consumers should have the right of choice. End of story. It's about time governments started to actually enforce existing anti-competitive legislation instead of sitting on their lazy pro corporation asses and screwing consumers.
Sure, but I'm just testing the results I get from the printers as printers.
I'll leave concerns on other matters for people to decide if they want to buy one...
@@KeithCooper I guess.
@@KeithCooperMy Only exposure to third party inks was with my first printer the ubiquitous Pro 100. The prints were okay, but not as good as OEM inks.
If a printer manufacturer brings out an eco tank proper photo printer with 8 ink sets or ten, it would be a huge success. But they're not going to kill the golden goose
Yes - they are edging towards it, but no time soon I'm suspecting