@@3f34f2f4 That is truly great! I keep asking myself if he managed to wrap it with a normal size wrapping paper or if one can buy oversized wrapping paper. Plus there are no wrinkles, cracks or spots in the paper - perfectly wrapped. Respect! 👍👍👍👍👍
I have been taking photographs for almost 50 years. I also have been watching TH-cam photography tutorials daily since I retired from my engineering job, 8 years ago. This video is the first one that explains why everyone needs to print their own images. I was taught that photography starts with planning to photograph a subject, then executing that plan to capture your planned image. Once that image has been captured, it must be processed to bring out the image you envisioned during your planning stage. Failing to print your image is leaving out an important part of being a photographer! The end result of being a photographer is the ability to hold a photograph in your hands or admire a photograph hanging on a wall. Once I started printing my own photographs at home on a Canon Pro 9000 Mark II printer my photography improved immensely. Tom, thank you for making such informative and inspiring videos, keep up the good work.
I normally don’t like technical videos. The way you delivered this video made it very interesting and also made me realize that someday I would really like to have a printer like that. I’d love to have that print. Let me know. Thanks.
I really enjoyed the video. Your explanation was so clear and helpful. Anybody would be lucky to be able to hang that print in their home. Thanks for the opportunity. Looking forward to your 2025 videos.
And there's not a trace of irony in here? Are you a real engineer? You needed to be taught this? And never trial-and-error or R&D-structured ( ;) ) figured it out? And yes, printing pigment ink on art paper has a prohibitive quality that prevents us from shooting snapshots. It's a great tool in teaching us what not to do.
No arguments from me here. I only use a Pro 100 & wish I could justify purchasing a larger printer. So I ask you, how often do you make large prints & what do you do with them? Sell, give some to friends & family, etc.?Also, how often does one have to print on a printer like this to keep it running (sort of a maintaining in working condition type question) ? Thank you for any replies!
Thomas said he was impressed by anyone who stayed well into the video. Honestly, if Thomas was buttering toast but talking photography, I'd still watch.
I've been following your channel for almost 8 years now, mostly for your van trips, but I still really enjoy your videos about gear and the more technical aspects of photography-it's a great mix. Your pace is relaxed, and it inspires me to take it slow when I’m out in the field. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
I really ought to have more prints made. Probably most hobby photographers ought to. Even if it isn’t a rig like this, as precise or as large, there’s something special about prints.
@@bdshort Well, even if your print head doesn't dry out - it might just stop working. I switched cartridges the other day and had to pause in-between because someone was at the door. When I came back to put in the rest, the printer threw me an error that basically just means "I'm broken, bring me to a repair shop". It doesn't specify anything at all and it's very common with Canon printers. Most of the time, the print head died. It just died. It didn't print, it didn't clean except for the usual cycle after you insert new cartridgs, those were original and slotted in correctly (of course), everything was perfectly fine. Nothing dried outk either. It just starts to throw an error code and since then refuses to work. A new original print head for the Pro-10S is about 230€. It's insane.
Thanks for this. The challenge is that the image on the monitor is backlighted and the print is lit from the front. Making a backlighted image match a printed image is a real challenge. That is why hard proofing is the only way to be sure to get what you want.
With all the photographers out there. Why hasn't e-ink delivered yet? The coloured e-ink is getting better, but for an amateur it sounds like a great e-ink display would be essential in printing. Maybe one day!
As an ameteur photographer and someone who has never printed out my photos, this gives me a whole new perspective on how much it takes to get the perfect print. Photography is such a fun art, but I think it's so difficult to display it properly. It is fun to watch someone else figure out the best way to do it though!
So much work goes into a photo print like this. People seem to forget in this Instagram world, since today you're done sharing a few seconds after taking the shot. Good work needs to be viewed on paper!
I felt that when you said "I hate this, I just want to click file print and get a print! Its all I want!". One of my least favorite things to do is set up new technology, but it is so worth it in the end. That print turned out beautiful and I think that printer was a good buy!
Thanks Tom for bringing this part of photography to light. For all the Millennial's and Gen-Z's that have never used a film camera and wish to have an analog experience, I encourage them to exploring printing first. For us that are older, the end result of using a film camera, was always a bunch of prints, unless you wanted slides, that you would hold in your hand. And then years later, open a box that you placed them in and lost and have this wonderful reminder of time passing. As a society, we have lost that analog physical experience with the vast majority of photographs that are taken now. And when you begin to print, it actually feeds back to compositions you will do in the future, because as Tom pointed out, papers work better with certain forms of compositions. Thanks again Tom and great job with your summary!
Thomas, I’ve been following your channel for the past few years, and I really admire how you blend landscape photography with compelling storytelling. Your videos consistently inspire me to see the world differently and improve my own photography. Winning one of your prints would be a great way to bring a piece of that inspiration into my home-thanks for the opportunity!
I hope Mrs Heaton also managed to choose herself a rather tasty Christmas present like you did. Keep up the good work Th( fixed due to the type of person that trolls Thomas’s replies) omas.
@@raybeer5213 Have you never made a typo? All hail the wordsmith extraordinaire. It’s now been fixed to satisfy your child like mind.
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For someone doing photography as a business I fully understand the need to have a good photo printer. Myself as a low output hobbyist photographer I've never found those printers to be anything than a black hole to sink money into! Just switching the printer on will "clean the head" by squirting ink out, every time. A full set of ink cartridges cost a small fortune, and last surprisingly short time. While I use it now and then to do some test prints, I now instead use the services of local print house that makes prints cheaper than I can do myself considering that I never get a print correct without at least a few proof copies. That said, the quality of a well done print even on my cheapo Canon Pixma printer is fantastic, I can only imagine the quality that beast of a printer can output!
While I agree with you to a point, keeping end to end control is what I prefer. BTW Have you seen the cost of 'enthusiast' printer inks (or toner). By comparison these seem good value.
Thanks Tom, you have produced the best explanation of colour printing and the workflow needed to produce great prints. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
That's very kind, thank you. I always had trouble 'getting it's, which means when I finally understand things, I can explain them in an easy to understand way. Hope that makes sense 😂
Terrific explanation of the color space and printing. Thank you. I used to print my own prints with a printer and the cost of consumables almost bankrupt me. Even at 2000 pounds the price of the printer is nothing compared to paper and especially ink cost. Sad, but true. However, holding a freshly printed image feels like a miracle even after all the hard work. Congratulations! Merry Christmas!
As a lifetime photographer as a side vocation, I was a fulltime manufacturing engineer for my 47+ year career. One of the products we manufactured was solid surface panels for countertops and other panel-based installations. Manufactured using components, ATH filler, catalyzer, resin and pigments, color control was of extreme importance. Explaining LAB color measurement and spherical QC tolerance ranges, sounds a lot like this TH-cam video. I have faced many of these topics in my photography printing, both large and small format prints and the printing of photo books, using various vendors. I have a beautiful photo wall in my home office, and would be proud to display your maiden voyage print in a prominent spot.
I wonder if your monitor is calibrated.........if not (or even is) you're not seeing the image as it really is!! TH-cam compress videos, which changes all sorts of things, including colour.
Thomas, this one is different from your usual videos. I watched the entire video and it was not boring at all. I learned a lot about what it takes to produce great prints in addition to photography and post processing. Thanks!
Years ago, I started with a 17” printer. Like you I wanted to do larger and or pano prints. I upgraded to an 24” roll printer. Loved it, but after a year, I decided it simply wasn’t large enough. I wanted to print really large canvas prints. I sold the 24” printer and purchased a Canon 44” printer with two roll capability. Never regretted the decision.
@ I unboxed it in the garage, it took two to carry it downstairs to my basement office, took 3 to get it on the stand. My 24” printer was an HP. I loved the fact that it had a built in photospectrometer and would create an ICC profile for any paper you wanted to print on. The downsides were numerous. The inks had a short expiration date, and the printer would recognize that the cartridge was expired and not print. It also wouldn’t cut canvas (you’d have to set it not to automatically cut). When I was ready to buy a wider printer, it seemed like HP was already moving away from wide format photo printers, so I looked at Canon.
@ the Z3200ps was indeed a fine art printer. I used an ink that had a color fastness tested to last for over 100 years with the right paper. It’s completely a different line of printers than the designjet series
Regarding colour science and matching etc. I’ve been printing since the very early days of Epson inkjets and the 1st Photoshop in the 90s. It’s easy - when we struggle - to miss how lucky we now are and how awful it used to be! Blues never came out as blue other than cobalt or, usually, magenta. Prints rarely looked like the screen - the 100s of hours and sheets of test paper I wasted was madness - and prints faded in days! But now with a colour matched monitor using a Spyder and home made or Fotospeed(!) custom ICCs I can genuinely say that what my Pro 10S puts out is EXACTLY like I see on screen and want it, except for a little lightening of the file to handle the difference between backlit electronic screen and paper. It’s reached a level I never imagined possible. We are so lucky, today.
Thought "man thats a big camera-even for Canon!" Edit: Do you always go print quality: Standard? I never tried sandard and always dip on the high quality instead.
I think one point that was missed is that paper, unlike monitors, do not emit emit it's own light, meaning the print needs to be properly lit to match any profile. It also means that you might need to edit the image to match the final lighting of the print on the wall.
You're absolutely correct, which means "correct" colour is a misnomer. I commented earlier that even "daylight" varies in kelvin values, from dull overcast skies to bright sunlight, maybe 4000K to 7000K
Allow me to share my experience with a Canon Imageprograf LPF, I still have a 44-inch 12-color monster sitting in my room with me now and it hasn't been running for 4yr+ now. If anyone in Malaysia wants it, let me know and you can have it for free. Just bring your own lorry and at least 3 other ppl with to help you carry it up the lorry. My issue with the printer was that the running costs can be very high, the inks aren't cheap and you will NEED to make sure you run it constantly. Failing to run the printer constantly can result in the printer pouring ink down the maintenance tanks to make sure the print head is not clogged, not running it constantly also could make your print heads clog "prematurely" requiring early replacement. Most Canon LPFs have print heads that run ard USD250 or so each (AFAIK) and most of them have 2 heads. Of course, the maintenance tank / cartridge will need replacement and the less you print, the quicker it gets filled because of the action of trying to make sure the print heads aren't clogged. And p.s. the print-heads I had on my Canon LPF WILL require replacement every 1-2yrs regardless of what you do, obviously, if you print too much it will wear out quicker, if you print too little, it might clog sooner and still requirement earlier replacement. So... in order to keep such a monster running, your LPF needs to be running constantly / consistently, preferably everyday; even if you aren't printing daily, try to at least do a nozzle check daily to exercise the print heads. IF you do that, you might do ok for print heads / maintenance cartridges... but do bear in mind, you WILL need to buy ink and those inks are actually more expensive than gold per gram / milliliter. That said, it will make AMAZING prints, if you can afford to keep it in good working condition, the inks and to buy good paper for it. And also... for me, I am NEVER buying another LPF unless somehow I am sure I can keep the printer running daily (and of course, make money selling all those prints). Canon will never tell you this or how to maintain the print-heads by running them daily, because if they were to ever tell anyone about all these, you probably won't buy one and if your print-heads lasts longer or use less ink, they do make less money 😛
YES! My printer will only do super B but I have all the same issues when I don't use the printer for a couple of months. I'd love to have something bigger, but just can't justify the cost.
Thanks for this video, the information you share has explained the frequent disappointment felt when opening commercially made (un-proofed) prints. Your honesty throughout all your videos is always welcome and I suspect the buyer's remorse you mentioned won't be with you for long! All the best for 2025 and I look forward to forthcoming Wednesdays... 😊
About 20 years ago I went through this, bought a large format Epson printer, catriges and monitor calibrater and printed my large prints. Since then I had sold all and just depend on consure printers. But for you this is amazing, I learn a few things here too, eventhough I had so much experience. Cheers.
I have been a fan since 2015 when I first studied abroad. I have now gone back to China, but I still buy every calendar every year. After moving to my new home, I always wanted to have a signature print of yours on my wall, but your website stopped selling big prints years ago. I almost feel I will get this Free one and show all my friends this is from Thomas Heaton.
I love the fact that I found Thomas because I like his campervan but now i am into landscape photography and even thu that i am not photographing yet I still wotch a 25 min video on setting up a £2000 printer.
Printing is therapeutic. As an amateur I started printing some photos at home with a $200 printer. The big take away was calibration and several attempts at hard proofing but worth it at the end. Wonderful video!
As some one who has owned an Epson 9600 and a 9900 - I'll leave this little warning with you Use it or Lose it. Do not leave it turned off or even idle for weeks. Set up a scheduled print test (or print job) that exercises all the cartridges doesn't have to be large, just has to move some ink. If your printer has the ability to schedule head cleaning - use it. Run it at least twice a week unless you're printing every day. Once that head clogs - you have a big heavy paperweight.
Your explanation was right on! Matches my soft proofing procedures closely. You never returned to the "buyer's remorse" comment! While I love the videos while you are out shooting, having something like this in your studio now and then would be great!
Thanks for this video. I'm finally starting to understand something about color management and why my prints are always different from what's on my screen. The first step: calibrating my monitors. And then I'll watch your video again for the next step. Beautiful photo, I'd love to have that on my wall ;-)
I found great value in your video. In the past I always had issues with photo printing at home, but now with new knowledge I will restart my journey of photo printing at home
This was a really informative video for me. Thanks Thomas. Has shown me how much further I need to go to acquire all the necessary elements to make a good image worth hanging on a wall!
Great tips! And on the gamut shifting colors too! I did find that setting my monitor brightness low like 60 (cd/m2) helped a ton! I was getting a magenta cast until I reduced the brightness, even after resetting and calibrating!
I don’t typically comment, but I really appreciate the intro to color space, proofing, and printing in this video…and I’d love to throw my hat in the ring for the free print…beautiful. Thanks Tom.
Thanks for an impressive peek into a new level of printing. When in college, I worked at the marketing department of our school. Designers often pulled out press swatches to get codes to include with print orders. Your video reminded me of that process except it's between your monitor, editing software, and printer. Thanks for a great 2024, looking forward to 2025!
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Wwwoo! All the process explained in less than 25 minutes! Congratulations, it was cristal clear. Thanks.
One of the best explanations of gamut and profiles I have seen. I studied this at a photo school in Paris and that part of the course was probably the most complex so well done!
I started watching to have a chuckle at you struggling with a ma-hoosive printer - but I ended up learning an indecent amount about colour spaces, gamuts, profiles, calibration, proofing hard and soft, paper types and printing. All that and I still had a chuckle!
At least four lessons in one video….gamut, soft proofing, paper, printer - and probably one or two more - yes - calibration. Cheers and Happy New Year.
Great video. Great explanations and you reaffirmed my reason to go to a pro printer!!!! Good explanation of soft proofing too. Love the print. Great comp and great colours. The Orange in the leaves look really crisp. Great job. Hope you keep the love going.
Wowzer, that's mahoosive. Managed to watch all of the video, and now have a big understanding of why my photos always look dull compared to my monitor. Didn't know about soft proofing, and ICC ,so a lot learned from the video.
If only I had room for such a behemoth! Found the joys of printing photos a couple years ago but this has done so much to explain why some feel like misses!
I love how Tom wrapped the whole gift up for a 10 second opening. Attention to details.
Probably his wife did that.
True appreciate for the viewers is what that is!
@@3f34f2f4 That is truly great! I keep asking myself if he managed to wrap it with a normal size wrapping paper or if one can buy oversized wrapping paper.
Plus there are no wrinkles, cracks or spots in the paper - perfectly wrapped. Respect! 👍👍👍👍👍
Although personally, I found it little wasteful to tear that gift wrapping open since that paper could be reused for other gifts later.
Great information Thomas, this will be very useful as I venture down the printing road.
I have been taking photographs for almost 50 years. I also have been watching TH-cam photography tutorials daily since I retired from my engineering job, 8 years ago. This video is the first one that explains why everyone needs to print their own images. I was taught that photography starts with planning to photograph a subject, then executing that plan to capture your planned image. Once that image has been captured, it must be processed to bring out the image you envisioned during your planning stage. Failing to print your image is leaving out an important part of being a photographer! The end result of being a photographer is the ability to hold a photograph in your hands or admire a photograph hanging on a wall. Once I started printing my own photographs at home on a Canon Pro 9000 Mark II printer my photography improved immensely. Tom, thank you for making such informative and inspiring videos, keep up the good work.
I normally don’t like technical videos. The way you delivered this video made it very interesting and also made me realize that someday I would really like to have a printer like that. I’d love to have that print. Let me know. Thanks.
I agree but my wall is sure filling up.
I really enjoyed the video. Your explanation was so clear and helpful. Anybody would be lucky to be able to hang that print in their home. Thanks for the opportunity. Looking forward to your 2025 videos.
And there's not a trace of irony in here? Are you a real engineer? You needed to be taught this? And never trial-and-error or R&D-structured ( ;) ) figured it out?
And yes, printing pigment ink on art paper has a prohibitive quality that prevents us from shooting snapshots. It's a great tool in teaching us what not to do.
No arguments from me here. I only use a Pro 100 & wish I could justify purchasing a larger printer. So I ask you, how often do you make large prints & what do you do with them? Sell, give some to friends & family, etc.?Also, how often does one have to print on a printer like this to keep it running (sort of a maintaining in working condition type question) ? Thank you for any replies!
Thomas said he was impressed by anyone who stayed well into the video. Honestly, if Thomas was buttering toast but talking photography, I'd still watch.
This is honestly one of the most relatable/understandable lessons on printing I've ever seen. Thank You, Happy Holidays!
Glad it was helpful!
@@ThomasHeatonPhoto this was excellent. But how does B&W printing differ from color printing. I find B&W printing much more challenging.
This video needs to be widely shared. Printing is so rewarding.
I've been following your channel for almost 8 years now, mostly for your van trips, but I still really enjoy your videos about gear and the more technical aspects of photography-it's a great mix. Your pace is relaxed, and it inspires me to take it slow when I’m out in the field. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
I really ought to have more prints made. Probably most hobby photographers ought to. Even if it isn’t a rig like this, as precise or as large, there’s something special about prints.
I somewhat frequently have prints made, but through mpix, not at home. Worried I wouldn’t print enough to prevent print heads from drying out.
@@bdshortI kind of have the same concern. I guess this could be a plus as it will push us to print more to prevent that from happening 😊
@@bdshort Well, even if your print head doesn't dry out - it might just stop working. I switched cartridges the other day and had to pause in-between because someone was at the door. When I came back to put in the rest, the printer threw me an error that basically just means "I'm broken, bring me to a repair shop". It doesn't specify anything at all and it's very common with Canon printers. Most of the time, the print head died. It just died. It didn't print, it didn't clean except for the usual cycle after you insert new cartridgs, those were original and slotted in correctly (of course), everything was perfectly fine. Nothing dried outk either. It just starts to throw an error code and since then refuses to work. A new original print head for the Pro-10S is about 230€. It's insane.
Thanks for this. The challenge is that the image on the monitor is backlighted and the print is lit from the front. Making a backlighted image match a printed image is a real challenge. That is why hard proofing is the only way to be sure to get what you want.
I'm glad you mentioned this as it is an important factor to consider.
With all the photographers out there. Why hasn't e-ink delivered yet? The coloured e-ink is getting better, but for an amateur it sounds like a great e-ink display would be essential in printing. Maybe one day!
This is key…
As an ameteur photographer and someone who has never printed out my photos, this gives me a whole new perspective on how much it takes to get the perfect print. Photography is such a fun art, but I think it's so difficult to display it properly. It is fun to watch someone else figure out the best way to do it though!
This video is a wonderful Christmas gift for me and, I think, for all subscribers. The printer is great - Merry Christmas!
So much work goes into a photo print like this. People seem to forget in this Instagram world, since today you're done sharing a few seconds after taking the shot.
Good work needs to be viewed on paper!
Brilliant image! We're lucky that you share your craft with us. Thank you Thomas.
I felt that when you said "I hate this, I just want to click file print and get a print! Its all I want!". One of my least favorite things to do is set up new technology, but it is so worth it in the end. That print turned out beautiful and I think that printer was a good buy!
Thanks Tom for bringing this part of photography to light. For all the Millennial's and Gen-Z's that have never used a film camera and wish to have an analog experience, I encourage them to exploring printing first. For us that are older, the end result of using a film camera, was always a bunch of prints, unless you wanted slides, that you would hold in your hand. And then years later, open a box that you placed them in and lost and have this wonderful reminder of time passing. As a society, we have lost that analog physical experience with the vast majority of photographs that are taken now. And when you begin to print, it actually feeds back to compositions you will do in the future, because as Tom pointed out, papers work better with certain forms of compositions. Thanks again Tom and great job with your summary!
Thomas, I’ve been following your channel for the past few years, and I really admire how you blend landscape photography with compelling storytelling. Your videos consistently inspire me to see the world differently and improve my own photography. Winning one of your prints would be a great way to bring a piece of that inspiration into my home-thanks for the opportunity!
I hope Mrs Heaton also managed to choose herself a rather tasty Christmas present like you did. Keep up the good work Th( fixed due to the type of person that trolls Thomas’s replies) omas.
Mrs Heaton got a pair of big heavy dumbbells for Christmas.
The next printer will be heavier...
😁
*Thomas. There's a clue to the spelling at the start.
@@raybeer5213 Have you never made a typo? All hail the wordsmith extraordinaire. It’s now been fixed to satisfy your child like mind.
For someone doing photography as a business I fully understand the need to have a good photo printer. Myself as a low output hobbyist photographer I've never found those printers to be anything than a black hole to sink money into!
Just switching the printer on will "clean the head" by squirting ink out, every time. A full set of ink cartridges cost a small fortune, and last surprisingly short time.
While I use it now and then to do some test prints, I now instead use the services of local print house that makes prints cheaper than I can do myself considering that I never get a print correct without at least a few proof copies.
That said, the quality of a well done print even on my cheapo Canon Pixma printer is fantastic, I can only imagine the quality that beast of a printer can output!
Been there, done that, and agreed on all points!
While I agree with you to a point, keeping end to end control is what I prefer. BTW Have you seen the cost of 'enthusiast' printer inks (or toner). By comparison these seem good value.
Finally, someone (Thomas) took the time to actually teach the basics of setting up for printing. Thank you very much.
I want to see Gavin's reaction to this printer 😂😂
I actually expected him jumping out of the box
😂😅😂
But Gavin had it first 😂😂😂 for a few years now actually
@@daveabernathey Yeah, and his has his initials in the serial number too! 🤣
😂😂😂
Thanks Tom, you have produced the best explanation of colour printing and the workflow needed to produce great prints. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
That's very kind, thank you. I always had trouble 'getting it's, which means when I finally understand things, I can explain them in an easy to understand way. Hope that makes sense 😂
Never did I think I'd find printing so fascinating, but Thomas just has a way with explaining things that gets you hooked.
Calibrate, gamuts, soft proofing, hard proofing… “don’t go down the rabbit hole”… in the end, engaging artist’s subjectivity is required!
Terrific explanation of the color space and printing. Thank you. I used to print my own prints with a printer and the cost of consumables almost bankrupt me. Even at 2000 pounds the price of the printer is nothing compared to paper and especially ink cost. Sad, but true. However, holding a freshly printed image feels like a miracle even after all the hard work. Congratulations! Merry Christmas!
As a lifetime photographer as a side vocation, I was a fulltime manufacturing engineer for my 47+ year career. One of the products we manufactured was solid surface panels for countertops and other panel-based installations. Manufactured using components, ATH filler, catalyzer, resin and pigments, color control was of extreme importance. Explaining LAB color measurement and spherical QC tolerance ranges, sounds a lot like this TH-cam video. I have faced many of these topics in my photography printing, both large and small format prints and the printing of photo books, using various vendors. I have a beautiful photo wall in my home office, and would be proud to display your maiden voyage print in a prominent spot.
I never comments. But man ….. that print is beautiful ❤
I wonder if your monitor is calibrated.........if not (or even is) you're not seeing the image as it really is!! TH-cam compress videos, which changes all sorts of things, including colour.
Merry Christmas everyone. All the best wishes for 2025!
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Thomas, this one is different from your usual videos. I watched the entire video and it was not boring at all. I learned a lot about what it takes to produce great prints in addition to photography and post processing. Thanks!
That was a fantastic explanation! I had no idea what all went into making a print from computer to printer.
Years ago, I started with a 17” printer. Like you I wanted to do larger and or pano prints. I upgraded to an 24” roll printer. Loved it, but after a year, I decided it simply wasn’t large enough. I wanted to print really large canvas prints. I sold the 24” printer and purchased a Canon 44” printer with two roll capability. Never regretted the decision.
Wow, that must be a beast!
@ I unboxed it in the garage, it took two to carry it downstairs to my basement office, took 3 to get it on the stand. My 24” printer was an HP. I loved the fact that it had a built in photospectrometer and would create an ICC profile for any paper you wanted to print on. The downsides were numerous. The inks had a short expiration date, and the printer would recognize that the cartridge was expired and not print. It also wouldn’t cut canvas (you’d have to set it not to automatically cut). When I was ready to buy a wider printer, it seemed like HP was already moving away from wide format photo printers, so I looked at Canon.
@@apmadoc - HP is not known to be a fine art printer.
@ the Z3200ps was indeed a fine art printer. I used an ink that had a color fastness tested to last for over 100 years with the right paper. It’s completely a different line of printers than the designjet series
My favorite Minimaliist Landscape photographer.
Regarding colour science and matching etc. I’ve been printing since the very early days of Epson inkjets and the 1st Photoshop in the 90s. It’s easy - when we struggle - to miss how lucky we now are and how awful it used to be!
Blues never came out as blue other than cobalt or, usually, magenta. Prints rarely looked like the screen - the 100s of hours and sheets of test paper I wasted was madness - and prints faded in days!
But now with a colour matched monitor using a Spyder and home made or Fotospeed(!) custom ICCs I can genuinely say that what my Pro 10S puts out is EXACTLY like I see on screen and want it, except for a little lightening of the file to handle the difference between backlit electronic screen and paper. It’s reached a level I never imagined possible. We are so lucky, today.
Thought "man thats a big camera-even for Canon!"
Edit: Do you always go print quality: Standard? I never tried sandard and always dip on the high quality instead.
That was just for the contact sheets, although I am still experimenting with various settings including quality 👍
I think one point that was missed is that paper, unlike monitors, do not emit emit it's own light, meaning the print needs to be properly lit to match any profile. It also means that you might need to edit the image to match the final lighting of the print on the wall.
You're absolutely correct, which means "correct" colour is a misnomer. I commented earlier that even "daylight" varies in kelvin values, from dull overcast skies to bright sunlight, maybe 4000K to 7000K
good luck paying for the inks! 🥴😱😱😱
Spoiler dude :/
Respect that you can handle printers. Feels like the manufacturers design those things so that you have as little fun with them as possible. 😅
Totally!
Allow me to share my experience with a Canon Imageprograf LPF, I still have a 44-inch 12-color monster sitting in my room with me now and it hasn't been running for 4yr+ now. If anyone in Malaysia wants it, let me know and you can have it for free. Just bring your own lorry and at least 3 other ppl with to help you carry it up the lorry.
My issue with the printer was that the running costs can be very high, the inks aren't cheap and you will NEED to make sure you run it constantly. Failing to run the printer constantly can result in the printer pouring ink down the maintenance tanks to make sure the print head is not clogged, not running it constantly also could make your print heads clog "prematurely" requiring early replacement. Most Canon LPFs have print heads that run ard USD250 or so each (AFAIK) and most of them have 2 heads.
Of course, the maintenance tank / cartridge will need replacement and the less you print, the quicker it gets filled because of the action of trying to make sure the print heads aren't clogged. And p.s. the print-heads I had on my Canon LPF WILL require replacement every 1-2yrs regardless of what you do, obviously, if you print too much it will wear out quicker, if you print too little, it might clog sooner and still requirement earlier replacement.
So... in order to keep such a monster running, your LPF needs to be running constantly / consistently, preferably everyday; even if you aren't printing daily, try to at least do a nozzle check daily to exercise the print heads.
IF you do that, you might do ok for print heads / maintenance cartridges... but do bear in mind, you WILL need to buy ink and those inks are actually more expensive than gold per gram / milliliter.
That said, it will make AMAZING prints, if you can afford to keep it in good working condition, the inks and to buy good paper for it.
And also... for me, I am NEVER buying another LPF unless somehow I am sure I can keep the printer running daily (and of course, make money selling all those prints).
Canon will never tell you this or how to maintain the print-heads by running them daily, because if they were to ever tell anyone about all these, you probably won't buy one and if your print-heads lasts longer or use less ink, they do make less money 😛
YES! My printer will only do super B but I have all the same issues when I don't use the printer for a couple of months. I'd love to have something bigger, but just can't justify the cost.
You’re gonna love…….. Buying ink for that thing. 😂
I've prepared myself 😒
Thanks for this video, the information you share has explained the frequent disappointment felt when opening commercially made (un-proofed) prints. Your honesty throughout all your videos is always welcome and I suspect the buyer's remorse you mentioned won't be with you for long! All the best for 2025 and I look forward to forthcoming Wednesdays... 😊
About 20 years ago I went through this, bought a large format Epson printer, catriges and monitor calibrater and printed my large prints. Since then I had sold all and just depend on consure printers. But for you this is amazing, I learn a few things here too, eventhough I had so much experience. Cheers.
Beautiful photo. I wouldn’t expect anything less.
I have been a fan since 2015 when I first studied abroad. I have now gone back to China, but I still buy every calendar every year. After moving to my new home, I always wanted to have a signature print of yours on my wall, but your website stopped selling big prints years ago. I almost feel I will get this Free one and show all my friends this is from Thomas Heaton.
I love the fact that I found Thomas because I like his campervan but now i am into landscape photography and even thu that i am not photographing yet I still wotch a 25 min video on setting up a £2000 printer.
Printing is therapeutic. As an amateur I started printing some photos at home with a $200 printer. The big take away was calibration and several attempts at hard proofing but worth it at the end. Wonderful video!
As some one who has owned an Epson 9600 and a 9900 - I'll leave this little warning with you Use it or Lose it. Do not leave it turned off or even idle for weeks. Set up a scheduled print test (or print job) that exercises all the cartridges doesn't have to be large, just has to move some ink. If your printer has the ability to schedule head cleaning - use it.
Run it at least twice a week unless you're printing every day. Once that head clogs - you have a big heavy paperweight.
I have been printing for years, years, years, your explanation was what I needed. (Paper profile)
I'm with you Tom...."File - Print" ....and out it comes!
Your explanation was right on! Matches my soft proofing procedures closely. You never returned to the "buyer's remorse" comment! While I love the videos while you are out shooting, having something like this in your studio now and then would be great!
Beautiful work. Welcome back to Svalbard.
Glad to hear you're looking to sell more prints in 2025. I'll almost certainly be buying one!
Your description of color matching and gamuts was one of the best out there. Good luck with Big Mama.
Thanks for this video. I'm finally starting to understand something about color management and why my prints are always different from what's on my screen. The first step: calibrating my monitors. And then I'll watch your video again for the next step. Beautiful photo, I'd love to have that on my wall ;-)
Entertaining and yet so clear why everyone who does ohotography (does not matter the genre) should print it! Great job, Thomas!
This has to be the clearest video I have seen on printing. Thanks for taking the time to produce it. My wife, however, doesn't thank you...
Nice job. I have been with you for over 400k new subscribers in last 7 years and still enjoying every one of your videos. Thank you for that.
The best explanation of colour space and soft-proofing I’ve seen. Really helpful ..thank you!
I found great value in your video. In the past I always had issues with photo printing at home, but now with new knowledge I will restart my journey of photo printing at home
Great Photo! look forward to seeing other prints utilised on that beast!
Best explanation of how to get a good print - will now look back on previous videos!
It's on print your photos first come alive. Great info!
Oh yea, I already spotted a place on my wall for that beautiful print! Can't wait!
Several of my questions have been answered in this video. Soft proofing was a penny drop moment for me. Thanks Thomas...
Glad I watched this before upgrading my printer. Great run-through...
Lovely print. Season’s greetings to all.
This was a really informative video for me. Thanks Thomas. Has shown me how much further I need to go to acquire all the necessary elements to make a good image worth hanging on a wall!
Looking forward to seeing some prints available on the shop!
Thanks for sharing the process, great video to remind that printing is an essential part of photography
Great tips! And on the gamut shifting colors too! I did find that setting my monitor brightness low like 60 (cd/m2) helped a ton! I was getting a magenta cast until I reduced the brightness, even after resetting and calibrating!
The video started with buyer's remorse and ended with buyer's pride, I love this.
A little clarity to a mind blowing topic!
I don’t typically comment, but I really appreciate the intro to color space, proofing, and printing in this video…and I’d love to throw my hat in the ring for the free print…beautiful. Thanks Tom.
Thanks for an impressive peek into a new level of printing. When in college, I worked at the marketing department of our school. Designers often pulled out press swatches to get codes to include with print orders. Your video reminded me of that process except it's between your monitor, editing software, and printer. Thanks for a great 2024, looking forward to 2025!
Wwwoo! All the process explained in less than 25 minutes! Congratulations, it was cristal clear.
Thanks.
One of the best explanations of gamut and profiles I have seen. I studied this at a photo school in Paris and that part of the course was probably the most complex so well done!
Great video addressing a majorly frustrating topic when you're struggling away yourself!
Lovely video, brilliant print. Thank you
Cracking printer and nice studio set up. Enjoyable informative video. Thank you
I love it when you described the print as “three-dimensional”. When you have a high quality print, the scene can truly come out!
I love how dedicated you are.
Wonderful explantation of a complex topic. Thanks for all you've done for photographers so far, I look forward to your future videos.
Turned out great. I learned more about photo printing from this video than I’ve ever learned before.
That was fun AND very helpful, thanks Tom!
great image great printer. i now know so much more about the trials and tribulations of quality printing. Great job thank you
Beautiful and helpful video as always! Thanks, Thomas. :) See you in the 617.
Hope you will a wonderful time with your new printer.
Keep us updated :)
I started watching to have a chuckle at you struggling with a ma-hoosive printer - but I ended up learning an indecent amount about colour spaces, gamuts, profiles, calibration, proofing hard and soft, paper types and printing. All that and I still had a chuckle!
I just love the way that picture comes out!
This is quite the process. I enjoyed watching the machinations of large format printing.
At least four lessons in one video….gamut, soft proofing, paper, printer - and probably one or two more - yes - calibration. Cheers and Happy New Year.
I have space on my wall for this piece of art. Thank you Thomas!
Thank you for sharing. I shall keep this in mind!
Thanx for a great introduction to colour space.
An excellent overview of colour space. Great video. Thank you Thomas
Great video. Great explanations and you reaffirmed my reason to go to a pro printer!!!! Good explanation of soft proofing too. Love the print. Great comp and great colours. The Orange in the leaves look really crisp. Great job. Hope you keep the love going.
Wow that was the best Tutorial I have seen on Printing and Calibration. Thanks heaps. I even shared it to our Camera Club
Wowzer, that's mahoosive. Managed to watch all of the video, and now have a big understanding of why my photos always look dull compared to my monitor. Didn't know about soft proofing, and ICC ,so a lot learned from the video.
Thank you for the journey
If only I had room for such a behemoth! Found the joys of printing photos a couple years ago but this has done so much to explain why some feel like misses!
Great synthesis of a not simple matter! Hard proofing is the way to go! Thanks Tom!
hey thomas! this is marshal from san diego! happy to take that print off your hands, and thank you :)
It’s not really a photograph until it’s printed !
Thank you for explaining colour space so well !
Lots of love from India !🤙🏻