New Recommendations on "POINT-TESTED System" by Gratton Institute

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ความคิดเห็น • 142

  • @centycents
    @centycents 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    skilled worker experience doesn't do tenured skilled workers justice. You can be a very skilled individual with decent tenure like more than 5 yrs, for example a trauma nurse, IT Security analyst, Doctor, Veterinarian or an Engineer but you'll get lesser points than a "Manager" that has a bare minimum experience of 2 yrs that gets 50 pts.
    It's damn easy to be a "Manager" overseas, this doesn't equate more to a specialist role with a tons of experience under their belt.
    Summary: "Manager" with 2 yrs exp. > Engineer with 12 yrs exp. This is dumb.

    • @sarah9029
      @sarah9029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t ever see a manager with 2 years experience unless it’s fake

    • @centycents
      @centycents 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sarah9029 you'd be surprised.

  • @Jay78899
    @Jay78899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Australia needs skilled trade workers, but the system favors high paying jobs

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who knows what the govt is doing

    • @jaykongsawat5435
      @jaykongsawat5435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChannelAMEC😂. No one knows how devastating they are doing to their country.

    • @emillunasco787
      @emillunasco787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The guys from Grattan Institute recommend those shortages to be filled with temporary migrants who will be sponsored by employers. So the migrants come here, build the houses, and then they leave. They don't want to use permanent visas to address a short-term problem.
      But for that to happen, the government has to fix the temporary program first. Employers are reluctant to sponsor workers because it is expensive and comes with so many obligations. If the government is not going to give PR to tradies, then they should at least make it easier to sponsor tradies. Otherwise, houses won't get built.

  • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
    @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looking at the way regional areas consider nomination for example 190 and 491 Visas it is clear that the different areas have differing requirements based upon individual needs.This is understandable in terms of the wide separation and differing geography.However what is common to them is that they seem to concentrate primarily on need and suitability with the points score playing a far less important role.This is more in keeping with the logic of the Jobs and Skills Australia approach which seems to concentrate on the skills in need in differing areas in the short and medium term.Perhaps similar to the proposed Skills in Demand Visa.Both would seem more relevant in addressing the future needs of Australia than a points mean prizes open to the rest of the world.

  • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
    @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The proposed points system concentrates on achieving a very high income and early academic progression.This may be considered unfair and discriminatory against young women who wish to start a family in there twenties when more fertile and healthy only to return to education later.Not to mention the fact that they typically have lower salaries.

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      immigration system is not about fairness, it is about selection criteria

  • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
    @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The proposed points mean prizes system seems to concentrate on theoretical earning potential .However as we know from investment previous performance in not always a good indicator of future performance.In the medium term many people working in certain areas considered highly skilled will be replaced by AI only to find themselves unemployed .Perhaps there should be consideration on the skills in demand as indicated by Jobs and Skills Australia rather than simply counting points.At least the more practical occupations including construction(in view of the reported housing crisis)and age care nursing amongst others should be given more credit.At least we know they are of use and wont be replaced by AI.

  • @sarah9029
    @sarah9029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great system. I hope they apply it soon.

  • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
    @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Many will feel that they have been tricked into studying in Australia and especially in regional areas with the expectation of associated points.Do you feel this will be introduced in retrospect to in effect penalise them or will it be prospective.

  • @Kasun-vr9sh
    @Kasun-vr9sh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Karl Young, Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see the next video. Any idea when this system going to implement ? Before July 1st ?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maybe soon

  • @kumaradasan7474
    @kumaradasan7474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They don't want experienced workers. They just want young and freshers.

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      talented workers

  • @centycents
    @centycents 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Its funny they want "Managers" more than real skilled workers that do skilled manual labor that has more contributions to growth.
    Okay get those managers build houses, bridges and infrastructure. lol

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah

    • @user-ji2yn7lj3o
      @user-ji2yn7lj3o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Japan imported nearly 2 millions immigrants for unskilled jobs such as construction workers and food processing workers.
      South korea construct artificial islands and imported more than 1.48 millions immigrants.
      Australians education mafias do not want immigrants easily work to australia, because they want you to pay 5 times tuition fees for certificates of blablabla and credentials of blablabla.

  • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
    @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ask most Australians if they would prefer an immigrant to have useful skills including doctors nurses or those involved in construction or those with a PHD earning 120000 AUD I think we all know the answer!

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's fine... let australia gets into recession... there is a generation of aussie, never experienced down turn and recession, it's about time

    • @MichaelSmith-pm1tg
      @MichaelSmith-pm1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChannelAMEC They did however experience significant difficulties during Covid when vast numbers of students returned home.Lets hope they don't alienate international students past present and future or this could occur again.Not to mention of course the fact that international education ranks fourth in terms of Australian revenue.Recession coming?

  • @nguyenucanh3067
    @nguyenucanh3067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi. I am just about to sign up and pay for the professional year (PY) course. How likely do you think PY will NOT contribute to the new point tested system? This is very urgent for me, please response ASAP. Thanks in advanced!!

    • @qpeueudjdh
      @qpeueudjdh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, many chinese indian community looks py point will be removed.

  • @user-ji2yn7lj3o
    @user-ji2yn7lj3o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you can come to work easily to australia, you will not pay 5 times tuition fees to education mafias.
    Why they must make it easy, if they get your money by making it difficult ??

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true...

  • @engineertalks0
    @engineertalks0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Doha will accept that. What about 491 subclass points and 190 points?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Probably stop all 190

    • @lakpoam4816
      @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChannelAMECwhat do you mean? So they stop the route of visa 190?

    • @StudyAusRadio
      @StudyAusRadio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lakpoam4816 This is what this policy recommendation suggest

  • @lindakhosho-pz5gt
    @lindakhosho-pz5gt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How are they going to count the points test what do u mean 300 points. If I have 75 points how is going to get to 300

    • @Mustang85635
      @Mustang85635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You sir are not a skilled migrant if you didn’t understand this

  • @thavamanicharles
    @thavamanicharles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Karl which means the new point system there is no much value of Higher experiences ? and 2) What about Salaries outside Australia?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      not exactly

  • @joshuajamessagritalo5906
    @joshuajamessagritalo5906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    With the new points system I can't even get 300 points.. wtf

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel sorry for you

    • @siva2k23
      @siva2k23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is just the recommendation why do you feel sorry for this?

  • @jeelpatel9818
    @jeelpatel9818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is such a great news. I love this points test. Not to deny that this system favours me a lot, I would have total 470 points in this new system.

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow!

    • @siva2k23
      @siva2k23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is another 30 points gone?

    • @jashanpreet8636
      @jashanpreet8636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What did u smoke

    • @jashanpreet8636
      @jashanpreet8636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would never ever will stay in fuckin regional areas yes i will move to Sydney Melbourne atleast there are more opportunities

    • @jeelpatel9818
      @jeelpatel9818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@siva2k23 I don’t have PhD, I only have Australian bachelor. So 30 points gone there

  • @Jay78899
    @Jay78899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This one is not fair. skilled trade workers

    • @lakpoam4816
      @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes veryyyyy extremely unfair

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really bad for tradies

  • @theSatellite93
    @theSatellite93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait so i didn't get the occupation level part. Are they abolishing the occupation list for something new? For example, electrical engineer is on Skill Level 1 and he is doing a job as a support engineer for the past two years. How does this system work for him?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don;y know, let see when the policy is out

  • @calvinnwoohoo
    @calvinnwoohoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I've been promoted from a skill lvl 2 occupation (with 2 years experience) to a skill lvl 1 job (3months exp), do I would I apply under lvl 1 or 2..? (non IT Project manager)

  • @ayyytac
    @ayyytac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is just for 189 visa ??

  • @mariecan8349
    @mariecan8349 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If govt accept this one, then When would it be implemented?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maybe very soon

  • @RamenWarrior
    @RamenWarrior 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope the government won't take this point tested system. This system is in favour of managerial jobs and not tradies, not even some points given for high experience tradies 😮

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so as what they are trying to kill VET sector too

  • @lakpoam4816
    @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think this will make it much more difficult for tradies to gain PR?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      of course

  • @rajneelkaran8849
    @rajneelkaran8849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The government never asks the people who actually know what their talking about like yourself sir, but they seek opinions from self-appointed specialists like Gratton Institute who think that our points system exceeds 150 points. If we read the media coverage, you'll notice the reporters go for whatever gives a buzz to the viewer not facts not common sense but people who make their content more readable. This is todays Australia where the misinformed provides guidance to the more misinformed and we grow blinder.
    The reason for the housing Crisis is because the Australian public thought by voting labor they'll get a government who cares about their interest, instead they got a government who has no experience.
    Immigrants are being blamed when the people who should be accountable are turning a blind eye.
    I wonder how many wrongs it takes to make a right because with this bunch of people providing guidance and advise and the rest of us, looking in disbelief at how much mess up the government can make before things start improving.

  • @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal
    @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is good news.

    • @siva2k23
      @siva2k23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know what good news in this!

    • @Mustang85635
      @Mustang85635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@siva2k23because you are driving Uber buddy

  • @zackg2673
    @zackg2673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why are they only talking about IELTS. Isnt PTE considered anymore?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Equivalent PTE is fine

    • @Mustang85635
      @Mustang85635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pte is a scam test. Grattan institute knows it.

    • @zackg2673
      @zackg2673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mustang85635 i think you've got the 2 mixed up. We all know what the real scam test is.

  • @seungminlee4730
    @seungminlee4730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is super good news

    • @lakpoam4816
      @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How so? When they expect the points incredibly high like really WTF……..

    • @seungminlee4730
      @seungminlee4730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lakpoam4816 New point test is very favorable to my salary and age.

  • @hotsauce7232
    @hotsauce7232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if I can't prove my 2 year experience in engineering but still can make the skill assessment, will I be also eligible for the 50 points?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      no proof then nothing

  • @muhammadkamran3876
    @muhammadkamran3876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How many points 491 will contribute in this point system?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't know about the new system yet

  • @Smart_Tamaha
    @Smart_Tamaha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Sir,
    I am a Canadian Citizen. How much money I should invest in Australia in order to stay in Australia for a long time, perhaps permanently?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      there is no such scheme yet

    • @Smart_Tamaha
      @Smart_Tamaha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChannelAMEC No, I think there is a subclass 165.

  • @wilson9255
    @wilson9255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Karl, love your content. Just one question, is the salary requirement for obtaining points including or excluding super?

    • @felixoppong5750
      @felixoppong5750 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi mate, it includes superannuation

    • @wilson9255
      @wilson9255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@felixoppong5750 super, thanks mate

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exclude

  • @DaviD..2015
    @DaviD..2015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi. No more difference between 189 and 190?

  • @lakpoam4816
    @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I apply if I have 1 year of work experience with high pay?

  • @lakpoam4816
    @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this salary range count before or after tax?

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gross

    • @siva2k23
      @siva2k23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But what about the overseas applicant? They are not earning in Australian money!

    • @jeelpatel9818
      @jeelpatel9818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@siva2k23 The plan is pretty simple, first preference is given to someone already working in Australia, secondly there is still chance for overseas workers if you can manage to get a job offer from an Australian employer or get a employer sponsored visa

  • @mdfirosjohnny6235
    @mdfirosjohnny6235 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Goodbye tradies, it looks like this is the end of the road.

  • @namalherath9904
    @namalherath9904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This doesn’t favors offshore applicants

    • @jaykongsawat5435
      @jaykongsawat5435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not favor at all. you need to graduate from top 20 universities of the world. You will be favored for them.

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Favors tech sector

  • @ansarilathif1773
    @ansarilathif1773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing to worry now this is only implementing from July 2026

  • @kingstn16
    @kingstn16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PTE doesn’t seem to be mentioned there. So does it mean that only IELTS is recognised?

    • @himanshuNSW
      @himanshuNSW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes only IELTS would be accepted as it's sound very professional as PTE HAS NO STANDARD

    • @AmritGrewal31
      @AmritGrewal31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@himanshuNSW judging from your English in your comment, I'd bet my kidneys that you won't be favoured by the "standards" you just mentioned.

    • @kingstn16
      @kingstn16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AmritGrewal31 😂

    • @MB-ym5wl
      @MB-ym5wl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@himanshuNSW Probably Idp and Cambridge founded this government coincidences 🙂🙃

    • @MB-ym5wl
      @MB-ym5wl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@himanshuNSW are you a teacher to affirm ,that do you know PTE or only IELTS ?

  • @BeatlesSIx
    @BeatlesSIx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two typos in one video... Grattan Institute 😅

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thx for correction

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  • @siva2k23
    @siva2k23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Crazy Idea! hope the government will not follow this.

    • @jaykongsawat5435
      @jaykongsawat5435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They will definitely, since Gratton is the main body who do policy analysis on the labor reform for this gov. They already did change in 485 visa age limit on this 1 July 2024. This devastated International students at the moment.

    • @ChannelAMEC
      @ChannelAMEC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they highly likely will

  • @lakpoam4816
    @lakpoam4816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really WTF……they like watching us immigrants chase for that PR.

  • @saadhassan7431
    @saadhassan7431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pathetic...

    • @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal
      @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? This is so good.

    • @tazoman26
      @tazoman26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GurfatehSinghDhaliwalwhy is this good?

    • @jeelpatel9818
      @jeelpatel9818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pathetic for people who don't have IELTS 8+ and a high paying job

    • @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal
      @GurfatehSinghDhaliwal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tazoman26 This is only bad for Uber Drivers. If you came to Australia to study, then they should be working in their field. 3 years of professional work easily grants 100k plus wages. PTE is damn easy to get 8 Each too.

    • @saadhassan7431
      @saadhassan7431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have 90 each in pte.... yes job is a problem