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00:00 - Intro
01:46 - Manual Installation of the Update
04:07 - Features Overview: Collections as Lists
04:50 - Features Overview: Notebook Multiselect
07:57 - Features Overview: Single Page Share
08:10 - Features Overview: Searchable Handwriting PDFs
13:38 - Conclusion
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Kindle Scribe has received a new update, and while the rest of the stuff is pretty mundane, one of the new features is pretty impressive and unique to the platform. Introducing the Searchable Handwriting PDFs on Kindle Scribe!
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Wow, timely updated review! This is probably the only e-ink channel with updated Scribe review. Really curious about how the PDF cropping feature has been improved.
My main issue with it is unless you send a searchable pdf to email, you can't search for specific words on your scribe.
I'm in the middle of a big project and I take lots of notes. I try to group them together in folders, but if I need to find something specific, I need to open each notebook to find what I need.
On the iPad you can search for a word and it'll find it in your handwritten notes. I hope they add this in a future update
Tantalizing. Searchable handwritten PDF’s finally give the Scribe a feature that makes it “more than” other devices! The team at reMarkable must be slapping themselves. Still, my overwhelming impression is a lack of vision. A touchscreen device that doesn’t let me use my finger to drag and drop pages within a notebook, or notebooks within a list? A note-taker with Bluetooth that can’t connect to a BT keyboard? Searchable PDF handwriting translation and export to email, but not to cloud storage or social media? SIXTEEN YEARS of development, and Kindle still lacks basic browser functions??? A fabric cover that starts fraying after a few days of light handling? I could go on, but this is why I returned mine after 3 weeks.
@@GaryLangEngr Incorrect. Three weeks was plenty long enough to confirm that I want to partly replace my iPad with a 10-11” e-ink tablet. Love the 300dpi Carta 1200 B&W display, but I need real Android app capability. The SongbookPro chart app is a must for me. Currently waiting for Supernote’s next release, reMarkable 3, Scribe v2, maybe Boox Note Air3 monochrome?
@@GaryLangEngr if I could have grabbed a leftover Note Air 2+ for $300-400 USD, I might have pulled the trigger, but I won’t pay $500+ shipped for Android 11. Amongst the current models, the Air3C is too battery-limited and too dark w/out the backlight, so I’m stuck waiting for new model releases.
@@GaryLangEngr also, I was referring to Scribe case wear, not rM2.
Thanks for reporting on this! Ive had a Kindle Scribe since early this year. and the main problem that precluded it from being included in my academic workflow was the way it handled transparency and gradients. Ive used the 5.16.3 version for the longest time, and text superimposed on transparent images and gradients would always be rendered as an opaque shape in the following the outline of the background graphic. Looks like they fixed this in 5.16.5. Happy reading!
Interesting that the feature they developed will also allow them to harvest our data more easily
Exactly my thoughts. It’s not even paranoia, just lack of naïveté. The fact that notes are automatically sent to amazon via whispersync, and also have to be sent to them for export is such a red flag for anyone who cares about data privacy or security. It’s one thing to have an optional cloud sync feature, it’s another to make it impossible to access your own data without using it.
Thanks, great video!
One of your best. Scribe is maturing.
thanks a lot for instructions. very useful indeed
I couldn't agree more!
I have a scribe 16 gig. I think the scribe itself is great. The big improvement needed is to increase functionality of the kindle app. It would be nice to add notes on my phone to my scribe notebooks. I can at least see my notebooks on my kindle app in view only which is nice if I have made notes when I go into a store or something.
That's interesting, a very handy feature, that I was not aware of.
very helpful. thank you very much
16:02 That cut. Just casually throwing the kindle away. :D
The copy from hand written note pdf to text copy is really good just what we needed in this update
I also want to compliment you on the great video.
"wow that sucks" HAHAH i love these reviews so much!
You are definitely right about what is the matter for e ink note users. the update that Kindle brought to users seems something that really matter. I hope remarkable implement something similar or better, so I can really harness my remarkable in digital format note taking device that can really support my work or organizing whatever it can make my life easier and convenient. I really need to consider to buy the scribe unless Remarkable bring something like this sooner..
Just got mine tonight - Black Friday purchase
vojo,care! upravo sam kupio 64gb scribe i bas da vidim reviews,i na zemljaka naletim pozdrav i subscribe
Bought one. Black Friday sale. Going from Supernote to this. Love my super note but too small and I would like to read more and I have some books on kindle
Personally I think the searchable pdf is fine but there needs to be functionality to search keywords on the device and bring up notes or pages with that keyword. That’s why I decided to go with supernote
I really think this is a fantastic addition and I agree with you Voya. What continues to baffle me is the scribed development team only implementing the ability to attach the PDF. If you select convert to text and email not convert to text and send to my email it’s a little nuances that are inconsistent and confusing and frankly frustrating. Because when I convert something, I typically want to send it to my personal email, but this will not work in attaching a searchable PDF.
Hi, Voja
Nice work in reviewing the Kindle Scribe update. But sad to see that lot of people seen your video and only few have "Liked" 👍
With the effort it takes to make this type of video. Thanks for your updates ❤
I own a kindle and wonder even if I should get a Remarkable 2 and this video helps me sort that out. I still find this technology so far behind the capabilities I would really want so I don’t use it as much as I would like and end up using my I pad with some of my favorite pencil apps. Thanks for all of your reviews.
This is my situation, too. Need more capability than Scribe or rM2, but still want to get away from eye strain and distractions w/my 11” M1 iPad Pro.
I hope Boox is paying attention. The word-by-word handwriting recognition coupled with on-page location (and "as character text" selection/copy/paste) is something I had hoped Boox had when bought my original NA, but even with the recent updates for my NA3C, the "text" search of handwritten notes is a bit sketchy and slow. And I have "Automatically recognize handwriting in background" enabled. IMO eNotebooks need this feature, but in a pseudo-realtime-ish as you write (or after short delay), not only as an export option. I do not like Amazon, but it is good to see progress on this category of core "pad-of-paper replacement/enhancement" features.
I think I will wait for something more versatile. Boox comes to mind, but can I take with me outdoors?
I'm trying to decide on a e-ink device for note taking, I've been very indecisive with the many choices around, and this video really helped me a lot. Thanks for that! I'm just curious about one comment, if you could clarify - what options other than email the notes would you consider better, that are available in other devices? Perhaps bluethooth? NFC? Are these available elsewhere? Thanks!
Is there a kindle scibe tutorial? I am getting mine tomorrow after Black Friday buy.
7:30 I laughed so hard at your reaction, and I totally agree with you - that are the moments, why your reviews are so entertaining and honest. 😊
Even though I'm a bit worried that Amazon might lose interest in further development, I like the Scribe more and more, it might be a good middle way between Supernote and Boox Note Air 3 (C). In my opinion, Supernote is (unfortunately) too expensive and Boox Note Air 3 (C) without a clear focus of use, too many options can also be a disadvantage, especially if they are not implemented perfectly.
16:10 Improving and optimizing firmware is cheaper than developing a new device or design. Furthermore, perfect firmware increases the sales of devices that are already on the market. manufacturers just need to do more usability testing and listen to users and reviewers. It's so simple, but for some reason, most manufacturers don't get it right.
Hi, I love your videos. With kindle scribe is it possible to write both vertically and horizontally (rotating 90 degrees) and then convert the text to digital with OCR?
Gotta say I have both RM2 and scribe and its becoming my master rather than a helpful device, I spend way too much time tinkering both devices, neither one of them is perfect and I cannot decide which one to return. Its rather stressful. 😂
Turns out Moleskine and Leuchturm1917 was enough. I miss them sometimes though.
😂😂😂 I have been going through the same thing … trying these eink devices and determine which one to return
Hi, i updated my Scribe from .4 to .5 after I watched your video. I think they changed also the jpg rendering. I have lot of comics and some of them are very dark. With .4 reading was almost impossible. Also, a new page displays faster and the page grid view is now working again. It wasn't possible with .4 (The comics have 50+ full size JPGs ).
sure you can
The functionality of searchable handwritten notes definitely improves how appealing their device looks to me, but until they actually natively support PDF, I won't ever consider buying one.
Agreed.
What do you mean "natively support"? They read PDF just fine. Do you mean markup on PDF natively?
@jdpruente as it's meant to be a note-taking device, and it was advertised as having fully support for PDF, yes that is exactly what I mean. You can't load a pdf on it and write like you can with literally every other note-taking device. Others manage to implement this even if it's poor, but on the scribe, not only must you convert it to their own format to do so, you have to upload it to their servers for the conversion.
@@raigne86 I would have expected Amazon to implement note taking before making the notes searchable.
I want the Scribe to be jailbroken so bad.
Can you search the hand written notes on the device?
After that, I think I'll send my reMarkable back ! :)
Well, don't do that yet, in case you need annotation if PDF files, as Scribe cheats in that regard.
I guess I'll wait to Scribe 2
I want to move a page from one folder to another folder. When I try to use the "move" feature it only allows me to move the page within the same folder or to email it. All the time I have spent trying to figure this out, I could have copied the notes over to the other folder by hand, but I am stubborn and can't believe there isn't a "move option" or a "cut and paste" option?
Another update has just been released (5.16.6) with another incremental feature (lasso delete function) - have Amazon ever discussed their plans for fuctionality? Feels like very slow development, I wonder how long before really good cloud integration etc? I love using it as my notepad but would love to be easily able to see all my notepads on my desktop when required!
Do you have data on how much memory 1 handwritten page takes up? In average. Thanks in advance.
Would be awesome if they had support for dropbox, s3, webapp, etc to access on other devices essily
Keep in mind, that is only useful with formats, which you can edit or at least read on other devices - that's an issue you easily overlook. If you use Dropbox, S3 etc. you are lock in another (big company) bubble. It is very important to have open interfaces to the outside world e.g. Nextcloud - independence is key for the future.
android e-inks
Hi, I'm from India and I've a Kindle Scribe USA version. I want to know, does it support (110-250V) and what watt charger can i use it to charge?
The ads on the Home Screen 1:48 are an eye sore. Not a professional look.
is the feature of attaching a searchable PDF removed?
Do anyone know if it is possible to turn the brightness off completely, so there is no light coming from the kindle? I ask Kindle support and they said it was not possible?
How about some more handwriting tools like shapes. My Tab Ultra has the ability to make your own templates/form pdf’s and then add them into a notebook. I do have to say the scribe’s Fountain pen is the best in the business.
fr the list mode in collection. no problem with that in the old oasis then came the big update and it was no longer an option for some reason?! it's stupid af
I wish pen doesn’t have to change nip everytime. Any solution for that
Cool features. In your conclusion you said you can only share the text conversion through email. Can you connect the scribe to a PC and transfer the files similar to a USB?
Unfortunately no, the only way of getting your files off from the Scribe is via the email.
simple write on pdf works ?
Is the text recognition done on Amazon's servers, or is it done locally on the Scribe? To what extent can the Scribe notes be used without sharing your data with Amazon?
I don’t think it can be local. Not enough CPU cores or RAM. And data mining is very much an Amazon specialty. Can you say Alexa?
@@steverolfeca I think it could be done just fine locally, we're not talking about big data. But I suspect you're right.
in your opinion, do you think they'll be able to eventually work with a bluetooth keyboard? that's the only thing holding me back from purchasing
Surely they will...next year.😐
My biggest concern with the Kindle Scribe is you cannot transfer files easily between devices other than emailing them first Do you think this will change?
I honestly don't know, but I agree that this is probably the biggest problem with the platform.
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Another very helpful video. I very nearly hit the button on buying a scribe, but after taking in many reviews I realised as a writer researcher it really was not going to help me with my workflow.
After multiple in depth reviews - and agonising over the price point (Australian $) - I decided I needed the capacities of the Boox Note Air 2 plus. I have ordered one, and I am wondering will it need a screensaver and what would you recommend? (I know it has a different screen to the note air 2).
I assume you mean screen protector, and if that is the case, then no, you don't need it, as NA2+ has a paper like film that also serves as a screen protector as a part of the screen, so it's built-in.
Did you try the improved web browser?
Improved? From previously unusable state, yes. Usable? Only if you absolutely have no other alternatives.
Thanks!@@MyDeepGuide
Can the MDO be used on the Scribe?
Yes :)
I got rid of my Remarkable. The tips only lasted 5 days. I would have to spend close to $100 per year on tips alone. Not worth it.
After transferring the MDO to Kindle Scribe via the website Send to Kindle, I can use the MDO links and annotate it, but should I be able to access my written notes on the Kindle app on iphone or ipad or not please? I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Thanks
Hello,
I'm not sure what your question is? If MDO is transferred to your device and you are able to use it normally, that is an indication that it's all working as it should. MDO is a document that you are writing on, not a Notebook, so as such it cannot be used as a Notebook.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks for responding. My question is, would you expect my writing on the document to show up in the IOS Kindle app when I open the MDO document on the IOS Kindle app (having synced my scribe). I suspect it's not possible and it's a limitation on the IOS Kindle app that you can't see annotations on PDFs on the app, but if there is a way to do it, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it. Hope that makes sense.
Would the Scribe be a good option for viewing sheet music?
No, for several reasons:
1. To my knowledge, there's no way to pair Bluetooth devices, like a wireless page turner to it.
2. It doesn't allow writing on PDF files directly, only of their KTX converted files, and those can be quite unreliable, as it was seen in the past.
Do you use personally use an e-reader for sheet music? I’ve tried using my remarkable 2, but the page turning is too clunky.
Yes I do, but I don't play from sheets. I use them only while learning the songs. Once I do, I learn them and play them by heart. But yes, if you were to use a device so that you can play directly from the sheets, I would advise faster devices such as Boox devices. NeoReader in Speed refresh mode flips pages almost instantaneously, and it supports bluetooth devices for flipping pages, and has a front light, should you need it.
(07:00) I don't think there is anything wrong with the multi page Add functionality. It works the way I would expect it to. If you want to add only one page, then select only one page and click Add. If you want to add a page after a number of other pages, how else would you do it than to select all the pages after each of which you wanted to insert a new page?
Offer a selection for the user to choose from, add new page after each selected page, or add new pages after the last page of the selection.
Please name me one practical example, so that I can understand better, when you would want to use that feature the way it works now, that you insert an empty pages, effectively between a sequence of existing pages? The only example I can see are, for example, if you are preparing a really large notebook, and you first write chapters you wish to have in the notebook, and then you wish to add an empty page after each chapter. But other than such, very specific situations, when would you actually want it to do that?
It is a mandatory feature for anything that you might end up printing double-sided, for instance.@@MyDeepGuide
Hmmm, I'm not sure I follow? What does printing have anything to do with how you can insert new pages while it's still on the device?
I don't want to hijack the comments, so I'll try to make this succinct. My initial comment was about the way the command works. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the way it works because it works like similar commands on computers. If you select two or more files in the Mac and select Duplicate, it will duplicate each file, i.e. it will recursively copy and paste each file selected. In Windows, it is literally a copy and paste operation (it takes two steps). In Windows you can select two or more files and choose Copy as Path and then when you do a paste operation, you will get a path from the root drive to each file on separate lines, i.e. it recursively reads the paths, copies them, and pasts them.
On the Kindle, if you want to just insert one page after the last of a group of selected files, why would you select more than the one file you want to insert after? In my opinion, that is user error, not programming error.
Now, why one would want to do this is a different question. I suggested you would want this functionality if you are printing double sided, because one generally wants major sections (like chapters) to begin on odd numbered pages. I can think of another use I would personally put it to: I would write a list of questions that might take several pages in the notebook, then after each logical section, I would want to insert pages to record the responses to the questions. Inserting the blank pages for responses is easier after you have written the questions.
But, like any tool, whether it is useful or not depends on your own workflow and is subjective to the user. Whether something is programmed to operate inconsistently to other similar programs is more of an objective question.@@MyDeepGuide
@@MyDeepGuideI think it's working as it should, too. Example:
1. I need to add a page after a block of selected pages, i. e. one page of notes: I just click on the last one of the block then add the page, I don't need to select all the block.
2. I need to insert a page after each one of selected pages, i. e. a notes page after any monthly view calendar page: I select all the pages and add the new one after each of them with one only operation.
About the select all pages, I also think that you just move the entire notebook, you don't have to select the pages
Can you backup notebooks locally (i.e. external drive) without exposing them to Amazon servers?
No, you can't actually do anything to the notes, other then export as a PDF and even that can only be done via email. Absurd system-wide limitations.
Thanks. I suspected so. Another reason I love my Supernote.
Heheh, no comparison in that regard :)
Can someone please help me with a query? I'm considering a kindle and have a question that I can't find answered in online reviews: I need to fill in forms "on the go" while outside so first I need to create the forms in Word doc on my macbook and send to the kindle either as Word or save it as a PDF from Word on my mac and then send to kindle. Then I need to use the kindle to fill in the form while on the road. Finally, I'd like to email it back to my Mac as a completed form Is that possible? Is that possible and if so, what format will the final version be in that I send back to my Mac? Thanks in advance
That seems possible as you can annotate a PDF and I’m guessing you would create a PDF for the kindle and then also have a PDF as the end result. I will have to test this as I just got my scribe.
thanks, please let me know the outcome of your test@@gutenbird
@@captmac5627 if you send me some kind of form in pdf I’ll try to fill it out and how it works.
When is it launching in India ?
I don't know, you should ask Amazon support.
We could assimilate them all into one company to create the perfect e-ink device by implementing the best features, but then that would annul the very competition that innovates!
It could be so easy, they just have to listen to user feedback and then tweak the firmware. Each of these companies could quickly be way ahead of all their competitors if they listened and responded quickly.
Will we ever be able to rename pdfs? It's ridiculous.
I guess Amazon feels that such functionality is beyond the capacity of an average Kindle user, so they don't want to burden the users with such complexities and distractions. (This is sarcasm, in case someone is confused).
Judging by the quality of the exported PDF, some form of antialiasing is still missing!
Is the Remarkable still the better device just for note taking? I have heard as it’s older it can be a lot slower the Scribe if you have multiple layers in use? I already have a Kindle Paperwhite so really don’t need another e reader. Can either the Scribe or Remarkable make lists that upload to Todoist app or Apple Notes?
My remarkable is pretty good for notetaking, but I have ddvk installed. The navigation and UI isn't the greatest without ddvk. I have since switched to an iPad Pro with Apple Pencil just because of the versatility. I already needed to carry an iPad for work apps and lugging around 2 devices just wasn't great, but I do miss the feel of writing on the reMarkable. I'll pick it up every once in a while and consider adding it back to my workflow, but in the end, the superior versatility (but worse writing feel) wins out on the iPad.
Also, one limitation that I totally forgot about that is sort of a dealbreaker for using my rM2 in 2024....the search does not search through your handwriting at all. For some reason, I thought it did, just not in a pdf like the Scribe does in this video. But no, you cannot search handwritten notes at all in rM2. You really have to have a tight organization method of notetaking to go back and find anything.
I just got mine. Very excited but pen is not working on arrival, as it draws while hovering in the air. Literally unusable. That said the hardware is very good. But features are shockingly few. Would be nice to be able to use emails, check news paper and have a split screen mode to read book and take notes separately.
You simply need to reseat the pen Nib. Take it out of the pen, and then place it back in, so that it goes all the way in. Whenever you have the "ghost writing" symptom, this is the very first thing to check, as it is the case in 99.9% of cases.
Here is what I did and it worked. 1) Take out the nib (you may need tweezers for this); 2) In a small arc, hit the tip of the pencil into your other palm several times. I think this jars loose whatever is causing the problem; 3) re-insert the nib, and try again. I search for 20 minutes on Google and was just about to return it when I found this solution: worked for me the first time. Good luck !!
Same thing happened to me. Replacing the nib didn't fix it. They're sending me another pen. The pen from my note air 2 plus works on the scribe so it's not the screen.
@@losang974 I find by knocking the broken pen a few times on the table actually fixed it.
Man, I’m already getting tired of Scribe’s wallpaper. Sorry to see remarkable getting lost, the original philosophy is truly genuine and unique.
The problem is, that you still can't write directly on pdfs.
Totally.
I do not know what is happening with your Scribe, but I can write on PDF with no issues on my Scribe.
@@Serg20110That's what you believe...
Well, you can, in essence, do the same thing. Take the PDF and send to Kindle. Let it become part of your digital library. Once it’s on your device, you can write on it.
Yes, it’s not really just your pdf at that point, but you can write on it then send it out of the kindle to your email as a pdf. I don’t see the finished product as anything other than a written on PDF.
You can absolutely write on PDFs, but you have to transfer them properly. While it technically converts to a proprietary format, a user does not feel any adverse effects from that. Key is understanding the right way to transfer
I don't find the way its working bizarre at all
Why can’t we just simply convert the handwritten notes to text? Period.
your boring 😒
It's "you're" or "you are". If you're (see how I used it correctly here?) going to throw shade at ppl, at least do it correctly.
I am using your wonderful MDO with my Kindle Scribe. The problem I am facing is that the MDO is not showing up under notebooks, it is showing up as PDF in the book library. Any solution for that? Thanks
Well no, as it is not a notebook, it is a PDF file.