Did Joel Really Cheat?

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  • @tregycs
    @tregycs หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    From a HLTV article:
    Contacted by HLTV, Akros said there's "zero chance" that Joel "⁠joel⁠" Holmlund's ban was a false positive.
    The company declined to provide more details about the case.
    I wish they provided more details though.

    • @hehexd1982
      @hehexd1982 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      The fact he got banned the day Akros updated their anticheat tells me he was 100% cheating.

    • @enco.
      @enco. หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      BC game said in a statement that he wasnt banned due to cheating itself or using cheats in previous games, but banned when he booted up his game before B8 game and akros detected cheats

    • @Kequinnn
      @Kequinnn หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes then all the pros can get away with cheating after they realise how to not get caught genius idea

    • @SurviveOnlyStrong
      @SurviveOnlyStrong หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They just did release more details

    • @marcusbergman6116
      @marcusbergman6116 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      They won't, because that would tip off cheat devs that a certain exploit or smth in the code is compromised.

  • @DerHomes1989
    @DerHomes1989 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    he got a default knife...of course he is cheating

  • @ITSFEDR
    @ITSFEDR หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    matchfixing? check
    scamming? check
    blatantly cheating? check
    bro literally completed the gaming sin speedrun

    • @Custom2udo
      @Custom2udo หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      not really blatant cheating, if he hadnt been banned already i dont think styko would have said he was cheating off this game

    • @mrotss
      @mrotss หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Custom2udohe was not blatant at all, he had very few moments that were even SUSPECT, imagine what a better programmed cheat with a better player could do

    • @sitaro1207
      @sitaro1207 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@mrotss the thing that gives him away is he clears all corners when site is empty but when there are players on site he skips clearing some corners and pre-fires

    • @mrotss
      @mrotss หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sitaro1207 just imagine if someone had more self control than this guy, to the untrained eye you cant tell a cheater apart from a legit pro. we simply dont know how many people are cheating with peripherals in t1 cs

    • @ILOVEATINGVAG
      @ILOVEATINGVAG หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrotss almost like its been talked about alot and i mean alot back in time when it was even easier then it is today but nobody gave a rats ass about it

  • @naebalvas
    @naebalvas หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    the moment in mid doors he for sure heard the awper jump down and run through the doors. not saying joel is clean but this isn't that crazy.

    • @coloassalchips
      @coloassalchips หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      it is crazy, because how many times have you seen a play like that? Nobody smooth aims and follows you through mid doors like that.

    • @mcskillet7106
      @mcskillet7106 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah i agree, didn’t look fishy at all. I mean i Would also expect an awper to hold the ct cross.

    • @empirewrld
      @empirewrld หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah he definitely is not clean

    • @danjacksonguitar3701
      @danjacksonguitar3701 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blatant cheater. Next.

    • @khalilkod3787
      @khalilkod3787 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sure you can be suspicious of the door and hold the angle but he held it at the perfect height.
      It's not normal to hold the perfect height for that long, you know he's behind the door but you don't know how far he is from and wether or not he's crouching.
      He could be at any point of the y axis behind that door you don't hold it the exact height of the player like that.

  • @wurmYT
    @wurmYT หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    At 9:00 he might not have heard scope, but I feel like he definitely heard him jump off cat and run through mid doors.

  • @jakeglocks8743
    @jakeglocks8743 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    last time i was this early Forest was still on NIP

    • @s0meRand0m129
      @s0meRand0m129 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same , the last time i was this early Ex6Tenz was still French best CS player

    • @go0s3cx20
      @go0s3cx20 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Forest Leaves

  • @CS2_44
    @CS2_44 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    *everyone is watching the demo and trying to find something that isn't there. he has no additional information about the enemies, and I was also shocked by the impudence, but he plays with a smartaim assist, which is configured differently in different matches*
    *just look at how different the settings are in the bc-arcred and bc-rushb matches, in one match he always gives with the first bullet, in the other he shoots 2 bullets himself, and the software controls the body. and look at the frags at 0.25 speed, I understood everything in 5 rounds*

    • @fakker8349
      @fakker8349 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Mate you are a genius well detected

    • @everyonesnightmare1583
      @everyonesnightmare1583 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      thats what I‘m saying… Pros play with humanized aim assistance. small tweaks to sharpen good gameplay into insane gameplay at times. Just so it looks human. Dude just got caught because he was using a public cheat which is embarrassing for the whole scene…

    • @davidedlund2141
      @davidedlund2141 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@everyonesnightmare1583 "Pros play with humanized aim assistance." Imagine believing this.

    • @Sobieskicharge
      @Sobieskicharge หลายเดือนก่อน

      bruh. i need more takes from you

    • @nermin7624
      @nermin7624 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@davidedlund2141 Probablly bro is that bad that he can't believe someone can hit crazy shots. I know he is bad because if he was good, he would do those, and he would know you dont need cheat 😂

  • @Astrobay13
    @Astrobay13 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Akros provided more information on the cheat today and how it was detected. It even had aim assist built into it.

    • @STYKO
      @STYKO  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ESP (Wallhack), Aimbot and Triggerbot 😭

    • @rob41n
      @rob41n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@STYKO 30 minutes before playing their match, not saying hes not cheating but

  • @Rokiishi
    @Rokiishi หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Like at 8:50 ish he clearly hears the steps & not the scope, don't get me wrong not defending but it just feels a bit pointless to point it on the scoped instead of footsteps & they most likely know ct's have an awp considering they saved the round before. Like I get it he is cheating but it's still high tier cs it's not some random faceit pug, other than that great video!

    • @jantiallver4356
      @jantiallver4356 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro when he is in scope, he doesnt make any footsteps. He did before yeah and I think joel heard it, but even if he heard it, you cant really be sure where in mid he is. 2nd point of that mid peek is, that often one guy is mid left and this guy is just dry peeking mid being open for all mid without any flashes or smokes and has perfect crosshair placement. This peek was kinda weird, you would never see any kind of this peek from a legit pro player. That in dust2 players are holding mid is usual, so even when you hear footsteps you cant be sure where he is and you cant be sure if they are 2. Imagine one guy would hold from mid left with awp, this guy would be instantly dead, thats why no legit pro would dry peek mid like this.

    • @fnaq1
      @fnaq1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jantiallver4356 I dont know, thats the only angle that opens up the way he is moving so why would he look left when he already cleared that? The right angle there is the most dangerous. Not defending but these arent conclusive evidence at all.

    • @Rokiishi
      @Rokiishi หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jantiallver4356 Sure he doesn't know where the dude is after he heard him jump down & before he scoped in, but he has the general information & sure if he had enhanced audio / radar it does explain how he peeks the angle, but I don't find it that weird how he peeks it tbf, it's so common for CT's to look for exists what I'm more wondering is why CT's are so open for short tbf I feel like it's a miss play from their side. I'm not defending the dude I'm just saying it feels like some part of the video it's just not concrete enough. Like look how pros hit the nastiest shots / have insane timings / look people through walls just by coincidence & luck, I feel like this is a play like that but he could def just be using radar aswell on this play but I feel like a lot of the points being made were biased even though he said he was not going to be biased that was more the point overall. About the dry peeking I would've done the same if they made steps by jumping down and stepping through mid doors while I'm on short I'd just shift up myself to get a timing, what I would be a little bit more worried about is t spawn though cause a lot of people likes saving there which I found odd he doesn't really pay attention to which I found a bit odd but idk how he plays normally but going of few of those plays overall in that game I just feel like it wasn't really obvious he was cheating it felt more biased cause we know he got banned. I was 3k elo on CSGO (don't play cs2 & sure I didn't play at a high tier like this but I don't find it that obvious tbf but I'm 99% sure he was using radar cause some timings were definitely weird for sure.

  • @ZuriPOL
    @ZuriPOL หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think that mid doors moment was a coincidence, it looks like he's just keeping his crosshair next to the door as he peeks

  • @ward8559
    @ward8559 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ive been waiting on ur vid on this, what I dont understand is how there is no legal action against a player who has done match fixing and blatant cheating, if there is no jail time for these types of people then what is stopping others from doing it? his accounts need to be investigated for fraud

    • @Miwles
      @Miwles หลายเดือนก่อน

      No country is going to make cheating in video games a crime…

    • @GshockBeats
      @GshockBeats หลายเดือนก่อน

      if this happens in traditional sports he probably gets legal action

    • @GshockBeats
      @GshockBeats หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Miwles that’s not true, it’s already illegal in China I think Korea as well

    • @ward8559
      @ward8559 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Miwles what a silly reply, cheating in games is one thing but cheating in a professional environment where they are paid to play and can win money through tournaments it’s a different story, not to mention the match fixing he also did. Surely that comes under “fraud”

    • @ward8559
      @ward8559 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GshockBeats 100% but it doesn’t make it any better just because it’s “esports” they should make an example out of players who do this, not give them a slap on the wrist and allow them to play again a year or 2 later.

  • @lekaskinnys272
    @lekaskinnys272 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Styko I have some inside info since I did the production and the observing for that CCT game they played Vs b8 where akros anti cheat banned him before he could enter the server if you want information I will msg u on socials

  • @traze4413
    @traze4413 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you gotta say, they probably have coms so some of these "plays" that look weird, might be coms that help

  • @Somedrumsbeats
    @Somedrumsbeats หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this in-depth analysis. It's once again super exciting to see how a pro approaches such a demo. There are many things I wouldn't have considered, such as the sound of the scope, for example

  • @jovpal5685
    @jovpal5685 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:01 it's POSSIBLE that his team mates were calling 2 at short so that leaves the ANCHOR at b?

  • @thatgreencat7978
    @thatgreencat7978 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Short answer: yes
    Long answer: also yes

    • @STYKO
      @STYKO  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🫣

  • @KNDCHV
    @KNDCHV หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His angle clearing in the beginning in lower tunnels was kind of newbish. It was lazy as well.

  • @Foxoeu
    @Foxoeu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Styko,
    I'm studying at an esport college and I'm near the computer almost all the time, but how could I develop myself as a player when I don't have the opportunity to get on my computer for about three days? e.g. when I go home on weekends

  • @jerza7191
    @jerza7191 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    He is clown he matchfix scam kids and cheat should banned for life in cs2!

    • @JustAspect
      @JustAspect หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      english go speak good very yes?

    • @genichiroashina6372
      @genichiroashina6372 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spek engres, Hola amigo.
      Kapish, baka.
      You rack disiprine.

  • @MamekCS
    @MamekCS หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Stykooooooooo.What are components in coumputers at for example blast or iem cologne tournament? Thanks :>

  • @aynyxamer
    @aynyxamer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    inspecting default knife : gg

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fuck knife skins.

  • @SimpleJoy420
    @SimpleJoy420 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:55 lookhow when he entered smoke was looking almost directly at enemy and when enemy moved to a right for second he did move croshair same position but he is in smoke he cant see a guy

  • @JorgeMerinoG
    @JorgeMerinoG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly if you watch a Perfecto demo it's a lot more obvious than this, especially when under pressure.
    And if you see literally any Shroud's it is just hilarious.

    • @vls967
      @vls967 หลายเดือนก่อน

      implying?

    • @SUPERYOUTOBEMAN
      @SUPERYOUTOBEMAN หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@vls967 implying perfecto uses cheats. Shroud cheated in his pro cs career that like a fact... i still remember his clip on mirage where he clicks his aimbot button and the crosshair teleport to enemy(not like a fast flick like 0.01ms teleport) and after he deletes the stream vod and avoids questions lol. clip is still on youtube u can find it.

  • @brah007
    @brah007 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Joel, next valorant champion:
    -cheater
    -scammerr
    -matchfixer

    • @fruktigjuice
      @fruktigjuice หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many CS pros made it in valorant? Most of them achieved nothing

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fruktigjuicebelieve it or not, Joel was considered as a crack in csgo, he was grinding fpl and played many tournaments when he was just 15-16

    • @fruktigjuice
      @fruktigjuice หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliogaltoni ok, so? Does this mean his FPL grind was legitimate also? He will never ever be considered legit again

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fruktigjuice He never cheated on csgo so yeah he was legitimate

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fruktigjuice he also has a better rating in lan than online matches so explain me please how did he cheat on lan

  • @sysseri
    @sysseri หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The crosshair placement makes it obvious that he's cheating. He looks like a typical gold nova with too much of info.

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omg if being stupid was a person it would certainly be you.

  • @DerD1R3X
    @DerD1R3X หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hahaha this Joel tried to scam me with fake faceit link on discord call xD

  • @drixtc
    @drixtc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    is it not just that he is a very good player with a tiny bit of a aim assist just a small difference like that with a good player can make a huge difference

  • @sl4807
    @sl4807 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't understand how people aren't accusing this guy of cheating. he makes plays where he seems a bit too aware such as walking through smoke or lining up your crosshair at an arbitrary angle. it seems like it's only accusable when they start spinbotting

  • @Perplexer1
    @Perplexer1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    95% of players are noobs and 95% of noobs will always answer "yes" to a question "Is a player, who is better than you, cheating?".

  • @graffex5887
    @graffex5887 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its not fair to comment someone after u know he got banned . Now when you know that he is banned for “cheating” and you ppl watching demos with x ray , not fair .
    But if he is not banned , all ppl would say HE IS PRO .

  • @roelflotriet4331
    @roelflotriet4331 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:00 clearly shows signs of tracking through smoke.

  • @CelahiR88
    @CelahiR88 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should campare some maps where he has crazy rating vs n00b rating. Campare how he plays and makes calls. It is very interesting he has no midground ratings. Its either way high or stupid low.

  • @user-im2wg6pt2h
    @user-im2wg6pt2h หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I understand your conclusion, but as you said in the start of your video you are very biased. I believe that if you watched the demo without x-ray you would say that there is nothing suspicious about what he is doing. I am not trying to defend joel, but there is no reason to add to the fire if he didn’t cheat, and I believe that it is unfair towards him if he didn’t cheat and you are drawing conclusions that are very biased. I would say that all of the things that you called out in this video are all explainable, wether it being antistrat or him having a risky play style or something else

    • @hehexd1982
      @hehexd1982 หลายเดือนก่อน

      stop dickriding him. he was cheating before 100%, he just didnt know Akros updated their anti cheat so he got immediately detected.

    • @tylerfedeli2004
      @tylerfedeli2004 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yawn

    • @seren3797
      @seren3797 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They confirmed he was cheating. Get over it

    • @user-im2wg6pt2h
      @user-im2wg6pt2h หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@seren3797 They confirmed that there was something on his pc that interrupted with the anticheat, they also confirmed that he did not use it during any games

  • @Chillypuwn
    @Chillypuwn หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:58 - The scope distance is like half of this distance. Quite sus here.

  • @danjacksonguitar3701
    @danjacksonguitar3701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    01:56 joel also puzzlingly glances through the wall at a player going mid doors when he nears nothing and while going up short to a, before he jumps down to ct and then onto box. Blatant cheater.

  • @joaquinarditti163
    @joaquinarditti163 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you analise 9z vs Ast in IEM cologne?

  • @DoxCia
    @DoxCia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this guy playing like FACEIT game run and shoot but with cheats

  • @fireb612
    @fireb612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 9k hours and I'm lvl10 on faceit. I've probably would do the same things as joel. He walks trough smokes when he has timing. I think the plays he make are huge risk huge reward. It might win the round or lose it. Opponents might be behind the smoke with knife out or they wont be there and then he would have free info. I mean who would expect this in pro match. I dont think he cheated I think he was gonna be the next big thing. Might not get it anymore though...

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s a crack, just look at what he achieved in csgo when he was still underaged, he also got a better kd on lan than online matches, which is surprising since pro players tend to have better stats online and worst on LAN

    • @bezdopici
      @bezdopici 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think that having 9 thousand hours in one game is strong autism and you should find a friend outside and especially a female one so that you can fuck at least 10 times in your life and not be your only inspiration how to buy a new skin XD how to save money for a new skin through your parents XD 9k hours my god

  • @tlrulebender2003
    @tlrulebender2003 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should do maaryy first, brother kinda sus especially the B8 game on Ancient
    EDIT : And SpavaQ apparently is also cheating in Permitta

  • @eugenegallizzi4278
    @eugenegallizzi4278 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel had moments where he is talented as a player. But he used cheats to mess with timings for match fixing purposes. They correlate together. This is what 500 does and all those scammers

  • @chanhwikim9044
    @chanhwikim9044 หลายเดือนก่อน

    04:23 Crosshair going up I feel a slight shaking or demo lag xd
    Professionals always take risks, but joel show the world very bold plays.

    • @juliogaltoni
      @juliogaltoni หลายเดือนก่อน

      What you call shakes are micro adjustement, s1mple does it as well and many other pros who have quite a high sens

    • @chanhwikim9044
      @chanhwikim9044 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliogaltoni I watched 3 of his matches.
      Looks like trigger aim assist
      It's just a suspicion. I've been playing this game for a long time as well. High-sensitivity users have a unique aim shake, but Joel's aim shake is like the shake that occurs when the lock is released after using the aim lock.

  • @brewsive
    @brewsive หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    there's really no way to provide an objective commentary after a ban, the seed of doubt has been planted so decision the player makes "ohh what he do that for that's suspicious", so it's useless

    • @STYKO
      @STYKO  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, it is true, but we have still come to the conclusion that watching 4 demos on stream was “inconclusive”. If he cheated in any of these games, it was almost invisible to the human eye.

  • @ronix4153
    @ronix4153 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me, the most suspicious thing joel has done in that game was 7:33 play in smoke. I mean the exact mouse move he does at 7:37, I don't think I have ever seen somebody doing this kind of move (like he was checking an angle, a look around) inside of the smoke. There was no sound cue to hear, no fight has happend with ZDEKO included, tho joel seemed concered about him.

  • @GshockBeats
    @GshockBeats หลายเดือนก่อน

    was this an online game or a LAN event he got caugfht

  • @goofy9125
    @goofy9125 หลายเดือนก่อน

    isnt Joel the spinning fish

  • @tappajaav
    @tappajaav หลายเดือนก่อน

    jOELZ on cheat? i arent think that

  • @jankoluch8137
    @jankoluch8137 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    xd and then we wonder if it is possible to cheat on faceit :D There are so many undetected cheaters its insane

    • @sitaro1207
      @sitaro1207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well you must be new because lots of players get caught cheating on FACEIT. The no. 1 NA player on faceit was cheating and was banned

    • @jankoluch8137
      @jankoluch8137 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sitaro1207 yea im new. 2.6k elo.

    • @sitaro1207
      @sitaro1207 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jankoluch8137 then how are you wondering about this lol.

    • @thib2582
      @thib2582 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@sitaro1207 and eu as well

    • @ILOVEATINGVAG
      @ILOVEATINGVAG หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sitaro1207 yes alot get banned but a shit ton dont get banned some have been doing it for years

  • @staylifted180
    @staylifted180 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play cs since 2009, i was an amateur pro in source (since then just4fun) and i think he is not cheating. Just time luck and good game :-)

    • @dereknichols4376
      @dereknichols4376 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are u that stupid?the anti cheat system detected some suspicious activity from his computer
      System wont care about 'luck' just statistic

  • @Bozopack
    @Bozopack หลายเดือนก่อน

    No skins is all u need to see

  • @hahahaha-zd8lc
    @hahahaha-zd8lc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when to ban donk?

  • @Binzob
    @Binzob หลายเดือนก่อน

    A known pos cheating is not surprising. Kinda makes sense in a way, cause if he was truly that skilled why would he constantly throw it all away. Good riddance

  • @Kivistreet
    @Kivistreet หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    95% faceit plyers have 110% correct timing , as soon as u turn they come behind the corner or trought the smoke… i think faceit anticheat have many flaws rightnow… alot of ”good players” are cheating …

    • @fakker8349
      @fakker8349 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah faceit ac has some problems to many players are playing god like for some reason always good timings and peeking like t1 pros

    • @fakker8349
      @fakker8349 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I noticed this a while ago

  • @Benkku88
    @Benkku88 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joel

  • @fuuks8
    @fuuks8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    its not cheating its game sense, kappa ahahaha

  • @provolutionCS
    @provolutionCS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    100% legit

  • @MatthewLewis-b7k
    @MatthewLewis-b7k 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Young Matthew Allen Mary Thompson Richard

  • @anomalyvideosnotscripted3036
    @anomalyvideosnotscripted3036 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The mid kill is not sus at all, you hug the wall with the crosshair to keep searching? Don’t know what you’re in about

  • @bllopawah
    @bllopawah 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yole

  • @goofy9125
    @goofy9125 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its just himothy behaviour. calm. the. frick. down.

  • @goofy9125
    @goofy9125 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel here, yeah i did cheat. SO WHAT. one night gaben goes a little crazier than usual he didnt like that not. one. bit. hahahhaah and puts a smile to my face and says "Why so serrriousss!?!!" HUAHAHAHHHAAHAHA

  • @dovaboy94
    @dovaboy94 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately this is been going on for 25 years, most you kids and 20 something year olds were born into this and have no idea this is what your gaming's been, your favorite player have been cheating since day 1 that's a fact

  • @iamrightyouarewrong6730
    @iamrightyouarewrong6730 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    just because YOU dont have the aim and gamesense for these plays doesnt mean he is cheating😂😂😂😂😂😂 stybot always 0.9 rating in tier 4 teams as a sUpPOrt PlAYeR