@@dl1st this rather looks like he left his mouse to scratch himself. Nothing unusual imo. Also the players on a heard the Ts running so I guess a rush was called in the comms
Something noteworthy is pro players who cheat and get away with it often aren't cheating for most of the time they play. It's generally going to be cheating for extra information on the slow parts of pivital rounds before engagement or at the end of rounds looking for exit kills. These players are incredibly good, even when they're not cheating; they cheat to gain information they're already aware is possible but not certain of. It's impossible to distinguish from good gamesense if done right since part of playing at their level is having information they're not supposed to from researching their opponents. These aren't MM scrubs, they don't toggle harder when they're losing, they don't toggle off when they're winning. The goal is to create a consistent view from the outside looking in where a shift in performance is a shift in performance, not a shift in software. 5:40 isn't suspect imo, it's a prefire onto players they know are pushing, lined up with the head-level of the back wall. Due to the proximity of the corner, it makes sense to aim for there since the enemy at the far wall sees you before you see them, and in this case, the difference in meeting time is long enough to justify prefiring because the enemy will nearly always win a fair engagement. 2:30 Is a great demonstration of something suspicious, given what we know now. Moments like these are common among legitimate players, but notice how Joel's crosshair seems to drift towards the players behind the smoke, and once they cross, he fixes his crosshair on the right wall rather than on the center of the smoke. It's a subtle shift in attitude that would imply Joel knew they crossed. As for the method of cheating, it looks like a form of sound ESP where some kind of noise plays with variable volume when an enemy player model is within a certain area of the field of view, likely centered around the crosshair. This is very troubling because it potentially implies his teammates were complicit with the cheating since this type of info gathering is most useful for the IGL. There's no way to prove that, so making the accusation is irresponsible. The purpose of mentioning it is because it paints a picture of why an organazation looking to cheat would pick up a player with poor reputation, and also why leagues need to have a unified ban list.
This comment needs to go to viral in the gaming community. I know it's all been said before, but for some reason it seems that a whole massive chunk of the cs2 playerbase in general have never heard of nor considered of any of these details. So many players are awful at detecting cheaters that they don't realise just how many cheaters play this game.
@@danjacksonguitar3701 Genuinely, thank you. I think about this often because of people like Barry Bonds. He was one of the best hitters in the history of baseball, and he ended up using steroids to gain an advantage. People assert that he was only good because of that, but they don't realize it was his swing discipline that made him so good. He was equally valuable when he was struck out because it generally meant the pitches risked grounding out into a double-play. He was so good not just for his slugging, but also because it was almost impossible to capitalize on him making a mistake, so he was intentionally walked constantly, even.with the bases loaded.
@@complic4ted361 it should be, but it isn't. You're expecting the counter strike community to use their brains, which is sadly too hopeful most of the time. There are so many people who still don't understand game sense is different when you can study your opponents beforehand. Perfectly normal plays are called for esp all the time because some people don't understand how professional players have information that wasn't given to them through the game.
5:34 - it's called "prefire"'. he simply expected them to come around the corner; bomb was there and only 34 seconds until the end of the round. It's just common sense and insane reactions from him.
Nothing. There isn't anything sus about it. You can hear 3 dudes coming, so you prefire. "Instant reactions" the type of person that accuses everyone of cheating.
The anticheat caught him, admins reviewed the detection and decided it was real. He got banned. We know he was cheating, the point is to try and figure out how, the idea is hes a pro if anybody can hide cheats its him especially since we always give them benefit of the doubt because they rlly do have godly gamesense and aim already. The idea is hes using some sort of sonar or esp that helps him know where people are, potential some very light aim assist, not the snappying and magic bullets youre used to seeing from kids blatant cheating. Its not saying X or Y play is suspect especially for someone like him, its just trying to spot what COULD be explained by cheats and see if there was anything that did make it obvious from gameplay.
@@User-kq3od I wasn't saying that he wasn't cheating, he was indeed, I mentioned that part specifically just because he said it was an obvious reaction of a cheater.
@@bgdrrs He smokes it because he knows from the shots they r on the far right side of the alley. Y would he smoke n then pre fire to the left side unless he knew they were pushing. But in general that map was just perfect shot setups the entire time.
Just wanna put out there that before Joel became a pro (He was already very good at a young age) he scammed some other swedish high level players out of at the very least $10k to fund his gambling addiction. He was 14/15 years old at the time. It probably is way more than $10k but I've only personally talked to a couple of the victims so I wouldn't know the extent of his scams. I wish I knew more honestly because I was very intrigued at the time but due to possible lawsuits etc I wasn't given much more than the rough estimate of the money scammed from the couple victims I talked to. He's been nothing but bad news since all of that happened.
You should sort it by most sus moments instead of rounds, 9 minutes in and there is nothing really weird other than prefires and "lucky" kills through smokes and that makes me not want to watch it anymore.
fun fact: if you keep your eyes open you will see the same habits joel shows in this demo like „look how he lines up perfectly through the wall. coincidence? I think not“ ah moments when observing almost every other pro player. Conclusions are up to you. You can see it pretty good on joel because he is kind of bad with movement and angles in comparison to other pros…
His movement is good. And that’s not true at all. Go watch donk, Niko, monesy or any of them play. Prob around 60% of their shots are still reactionary even with shit tons of information. This guy literally had impeccable crosshair placement and impeccable timings every second of each round. Even off angles, double setups, or no information he wasn’t even scanning/reacting just blatantly lining people up. The clip at 13:01 has me dying too. Bro gets a perfect 3k with perfect crosshair placement. Meanwhile he’s been spam checking angles all game, then he’s like “oh shit that might’ve been sus” then just holds the worst possible angle for 10+ seconds. And doesn’t check temple once despite his teammate coming up donut…. I mean porn has better acting🤦🏽♂️
To the other team, playing against someone like this will be absolutely apparent. The cheater will shoot a millisecond ahead of seeing you turn the corner. So you’ll never get the first shot off. Any good player will know that it’s 50/50 depending on latency, reaction time, closeness to an angle, and speed of the peek versus the player holding. Even things like how far away to hold from a corner when centering your crosshair. Which in joel’s case he always holds as tight as possible. No room for error or overshoot. Nobody puts their crosshair right up against the wall. Unless they’re beginner. Or have inhuman reactions.
It's because of competitiveness. Wherever you have competition you will have cheating, especially if there's money involved. Some people are also so obsessed by being the best that they do whatever it takes, especially against pro players who are actually good at the game so they can make a name for themselves, it's really pathetic, but they don't seem to care.
He was not banned mid game but he was banned before the match started when he launched his game through akros. Also in what world is CCT a 4 million dollar tournament?
1:35 Right off the bat he keeps flicking his mouse to turn as he runs down middle and up to short. It looks like he’s checking elbow. But he’s not. He’s panning from B to A, seeing where the Ts are setting up to hit. And likely comming that to teammates. Why isn’t he supposed to check mid? Because he has a teammate sitting in cubby holding elbow. He has no reason to turn other than to confirm enemy positions through the wall. He repeats this behavior every single round. Random camera turns across the whole map. It looks smooth to the uninitiated. But watching it back, the unnatural movements make sense.
3:08 clearly looking at the guy through the wall. if u pause it directly on that time u can see the exact pixel of him looking at the player through the wall before even peaking
this is more sus than many of the other comments, like why would you aim in the middle of the box there, either you aim right or left, it doesn't make sense as you say.
I don't understand where the idea that he is using radar comes from. Judging from this and 2 other maps I've seen of him it's certainly some kind of wall hack, it fits his behavior much better. I think every time he walks in to a smoke is the only part of his game that is blatant, he just does not get disoriented but will constantly turn the camera to face positions or opponents it's almost impossible for a legit player to re-create.
if you have somewhat decent movement and look at your minimap while in a smoke you wont get disoriented ever but its obvious this dude got more than a minimap to help him in a smoke
Omg I haven't watched your channel in literally several years since even before covid I think. but I just outta the blue remembered it and so glad I found it again. I got alot to catch up on now.
@@some1csgo take those 110 people and go somewhere else we dont care about this we care that someone does videos about the cheating that is constantly in online gaming now if you dont like the quality leave
@@abcw-sm8tryou‘re gonna have a tough time in life kiddo. This is what ‚comments‘ are for. Feedback. His videos will improve on feedback and reach more people. Doing effectively more for the community. This is good.
He was accused by one of the literal worst AC programs ever, that has been historically so bad it needed to be disabled to continue play. While I'm not supporting or defending him, I'd like to get more confirmation than Akros.
While I’m not excusing it, I do understand people cheating for money. People do a little worse for it. What really gets me is just your random average gamer cheating just “for fun.” Both are wrong, but I really can’t understand the mindset when money isn’t on the line
You're telling me someone was cheating during a 4 million dollar tournament?! I could've never guessed someone would even attempt such a thing! Glad he got caught i suppose, really sucks for the rest of the competitors though.
Good, F em for doing this in a pro match. Cheating for prize money should result in prison time in all parts of the world. Its fraud at the least and breaching a secure PC at most. Valve should sue any pro caught using tools to cheat in games or making a profit by betting skins on there matches. Banning them isnt enough of a deterrent for these guys. They need real reasons to fear you. Not this sad excuse of an anti-cheat this game has to the point you need to PAY someone else to enjoy there game.
I say it again, every pro team cheats, literally everyone has a cheater. And the teams are ALL in on it together, they keep their mouths shut so they can make money together.
Calm down girls, if he gets banned because of that tournament it's for a reason, it's not like this guy is judging for free, you understand? There's evidence that you won't see here.
Most of it looks fine tbh. Common spots, common angles, common pre-fires and some team play where the forward player clears right while Joel holds left and it just happens the enemy is left. 16:10 this whole play is fine the nades are fine, he hears a step as he leaves van, his teammate is tagged by him at default and he hard clears it. 17:50 there's so many angles he ignores but they might have heard the CT guy earlier and made a play where they assumed he'd be running to CT and tried to get a timing. the pre-aim is fine if he wasn't there he would have either held that exact angle or just peeked a bit wider. These games just feel pretty legit. But I suppose that's the point right... Also the audio balancing sucks if I have it loud enough to hear you talk I get my ear drums blown out when they shoot or nade. Even closed captions just goes blank because it has NFI
@@Kevin-us7jcyes I did a lot of pre fire back in the day on 1.5. You know how high to aim and when you hear ppl walk you can time it just right. I’m not saying he didn’t cheat but at such high levels it’s hard to sometimes really know.
there is probably some in the highest level, thing is you need expensive private cheats thats hard to come by, so your average lvl 3-9 dude will most likely not have a private cheat unless they are filthy rich or knows how to code the cheat themself, i have 2300 faceit macthes in lvl 6-10 and ive come across 5 hackers where it was obivous, and a handful sus people that might used radar or very soft aim assist
@@mikeholm4455 I mean with dma cheating becoming more accessible it really isn't too expensive to get a UD cheat for faceit. Free dma cheat and a private custom firmware would go undetected on faceit
constructive criticism the game audio is at 100 needs to be at 10 maybe 25 max. If we cant hear you there is no reason for you to be commentating. I actually muted this video at around the 8-9 min mark and still got just as much information as i would have if i had kept the sound on and tried to hear you. End of story the audio needs to be adjusted because we cant hear you over the constant explosions and gunfire.
in 18:34 you can see on detail (0.25x) how he starts swinging right very smoothly exactly before the guy's leg is out the wall (maybe at the time)... those reflexes are impossible. Also he preaims the enemy though the wall before repicking, what has no sense as the enemy could be on the right or have a teammate with him. He was definentelly walling in some rounds. Also the last bullet when the enemy jumps on the left and he stops shoting, goes weirdly following the enemy but the crosshair did not change position...
5:40 that's completely normal though, because the bomb is down, it's very likely people would swing him when he throws a smoke to try and catch him before the smoke blooms. He's just prefiring under the assumption that they will swing.
Some questionable choices, some questionable moments. I dont think those demos themself would be enough. There was one moment at the first map that was red flag for me, but most of other moments could be given to doubts.
Not really, he's just positioning the crosshair at logical spots, enemy just happens to be behind that walls. I thought it would be obvious cheating video, but I sincerely watched half of the video and didn't see obvious cheat yet, also he looks pretty mid compared to other pros. PS: Are there really 4 million $$$ prize matches played on uncontrolled environments?
16:29 when he molly the enemy he jumped off balcony car, at same time his team is pushing short and giving info he is car. Of course they know where he is. When they killed bench guy they knew he had to be site or rockets. Invisible showed he is default he pushed and got trade. CS 101
Pre-shooting is an old time old school technique against pro-players. I did this a lot in my hay days when I when a pro clan challenged us, and my clan wasn't really in it to become professionals, but were just having fun. Footsteps were always a dead give away especially if you have a gaming headset with virtual surround. Before I even pop on a corner I'm already shooting. And when you've been playing long enough you also develop a third sense where all people are either hiding or will come from and your timing becomes second nature. A lot of what is being shown here are not even definitive proof of cheating.
5:29 Heard a footstep. I might have sprayed the box too knowing they might swing. 5:03 What interests me is when he goes into that corner and aims at the wall and not the opening when the enemy was across from him behind the wall. What was he focusing on? The map or a cheat?
That's because he's a pro player. Pro players who get caught cheating, are still at the pro level and at the top 1% of players. Their just scum who try to get an easy win especially happens when a lot of money is on the line.
it seems like you have some audio setting activated, that lowers the volume of your microphone recording, because the video takes precedence. It should be setup in the opposite way if anything.
5:40 you can see that the T picked up the bomb after it was dropped, and you should know that you can see the dropped bomb stops pinging in the minimap once its picked up, so this prefire wasn't sus at all imo
just the way he pushes B in different situations considered enemie positions, makes you think the guy is cheating: - Pushes running when there is no one close - Stops and shots through smoke when enemie is exactly there. - Changes the angle to the right of the door when the enemy is camping left... For me, and being unders suspect, this would be 99% cheater behaviour (sometimes could be just coincidence or luck, but it does not seem to..)
he plays exactly like my friend whos been cheating on cs2 & csgo for the last 6 years. My friend also is not banned. I told him when he gets banned i'll play CS again.
He literally plays like such a noob. That rushed rotate back through cave to B to A was clownlike, you would NEVER do this in his situation given the info he had. Just shows that any noob could be a pro with cheats.
You sound like a reporter that's reporting from the battlefield
xD made ma day
the best comment
😂😂😂😂
he is repeating the word cheating over and over xD
this guy is talking and commenting the games like normal things are
happening, it sounds pathetic most of the times.
The in-game audio es too loud!
Agreed
yea i can't hear him talking
No its perfect
I can’t hear anything he is saying
Yeah can't watch it like this sadge
Bro is a dedicated journalist reporting straight from battlefield
I'm convinced that journalists turned liberals to talk about social conflicts instead of actively going into wars to report what happens there.
@@Ssek16it's called a joke bud
@@jeesusapotol9715 I wasn't responding directly to his comment, I was solely giving my own opinion about journalism.
What a way to flame yourself 😆
@@Ssek16why tf are you giving your opinion on journalism in a cs2 comment section?
@@Ssek16 sir this is mcdonalds
My main concern is how he is able to kill someone who is invisible.
🤣😂🤣, it's bad enough invisible walked into the bullet spray but to also duck and ensure it's a head shot is crazy
heat vision hax 😂
even low levels do this, u just assume that someone is in the smoke and u just spray... it works sometimes
@@wee8149 my guy hes making a joke about the guys name 😭
@@t3h51d3w1nd3r Some of them, I feel bad for Invisiblee, but if we're thinking of the same, I gotta say, Joel earned that one.
I get that he is cheating but at 5:35 there was literally NOTHING suspicious
Agreed, he heard one running and started pre-firing, which is smart but also basic
Be quiet noob
i agreed one hearing footsteps then pre-firing. plus c4 was there more reason to just prefire into it.
Looks like a wallhack, look at 2:03, he can see the other players. The movement makes no sense otherwise.
@@dl1st this rather looks like he left his mouse to scratch himself. Nothing unusual imo.
Also the players on a heard the Ts running so I guess a rush was called in the comms
Something noteworthy is pro players who cheat and get away with it often aren't cheating for most of the time they play. It's generally going to be cheating for extra information on the slow parts of pivital rounds before engagement or at the end of rounds looking for exit kills. These players are incredibly good, even when they're not cheating; they cheat to gain information they're already aware is possible but not certain of. It's impossible to distinguish from good gamesense if done right since part of playing at their level is having information they're not supposed to from researching their opponents.
These aren't MM scrubs, they don't toggle harder when they're losing, they don't toggle off when they're winning. The goal is to create a consistent view from the outside looking in where a shift in performance is a shift in performance, not a shift in software.
5:40 isn't suspect imo, it's a prefire onto players they know are pushing, lined up with the head-level of the back wall. Due to the proximity of the corner, it makes sense to aim for there since the enemy at the far wall sees you before you see them, and in this case, the difference in meeting time is long enough to justify prefiring because the enemy will nearly always win a fair engagement.
2:30 Is a great demonstration of something suspicious, given what we know now. Moments like these are common among legitimate players, but notice how Joel's crosshair seems to drift towards the players behind the smoke, and once they cross, he fixes his crosshair on the right wall rather than on the center of the smoke. It's a subtle shift in attitude that would imply Joel knew they crossed. As for the method of cheating, it looks like a form of sound ESP where some kind of noise plays with variable volume when an enemy player model is within a certain area of the field of view, likely centered around the crosshair. This is very troubling because it potentially implies his teammates were complicit with the cheating since this type of info gathering is most useful for the IGL. There's no way to prove that, so making the accusation is irresponsible. The purpose of mentioning it is because it paints a picture of why an organazation looking to cheat would pick up a player with poor reputation, and also why leagues need to have a unified ban list.
This comment needs to go to viral in the gaming community. I know it's all been said before, but for some reason it seems that a whole massive chunk of the cs2 playerbase in general have never heard of nor considered of any of these details. So many players are awful at detecting cheaters that they don't realise just how many cheaters play this game.
@@danjacksonguitar3701 Genuinely, thank you. I think about this often because of people like Barry Bonds. He was one of the best hitters in the history of baseball, and he ended up using steroids to gain an advantage. People assert that he was only good because of that, but they don't realize it was his swing discipline that made him so good. He was equally valuable when he was struck out because it generally meant the pitches risked grounding out into a double-play. He was so good not just for his slugging, but also because it was almost impossible to capitalize on him making a mistake, so he was intentionally walked constantly, even.with the bases loaded.
Sorry to say it boys, this has been commen knowledges since 1.6. The OGs just accepting that the anti cheats sucks and allways will.
@@complic4ted361 the OGs have been jaded from day one then, no?
@@complic4ted361 it should be, but it isn't. You're expecting the counter strike community to use their brains, which is sadly too hopeful most of the time. There are so many people who still don't understand game sense is different when you can study your opponents beforehand. Perfectly normal plays are called for esp all the time because some people don't understand how professional players have information that wasn't given to them through the game.
5:34 - it's called "prefire"'. he simply expected them to come around the corner; bomb was there and only 34 seconds until the end of the round. It's just common sense and insane reactions from him.
You can also see his gun too
not to mention the T player is running so he can clearly hear the audio.
what about 9:07?
Cool story broski, one misplaced clip in 25 minutes of hacking, innocent!
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5:40 its called a prefire, he knew at least 1 guy there, so what's sus about this one in particular?
Nothing. There isn't anything sus about it. You can hear 3 dudes coming, so you prefire. "Instant reactions" the type of person that accuses everyone of cheating.
The anticheat caught him, admins reviewed the detection and decided it was real. He got banned.
We know he was cheating, the point is to try and figure out how, the idea is hes a pro if anybody can hide cheats its him especially since we always give them benefit of the doubt because they rlly do have godly gamesense and aim already.
The idea is hes using some sort of sonar or esp that helps him know where people are, potential some very light aim assist, not the snappying and magic bullets youre used to seeing from kids blatant cheating.
Its not saying X or Y play is suspect especially for someone like him, its just trying to spot what COULD be explained by cheats and see if there was anything that did make it obvious from gameplay.
@@User-kq3od I wasn't saying that he wasn't cheating, he was indeed, I mentioned that part specifically just because he said it was an obvious reaction of a cheater.
@@bgdrrs He smokes it because he knows from the shots they r on the far right side of the alley. Y would he smoke n then pre fire to the left side unless he knew they were pushing. But in general that map was just perfect shot setups the entire time.
@@youtubenightcrawler9571 its a no brainer that if you hear 3 guys, running right when you smoke, they will peek.
Fix the audio, cant hear you speaking
You don't want to he keeps repeating the same thing haha
@@wafflecart Crisp clean lock bois!
Whaaaattt????😂😂😂
that gives bad reputation for all players named "joel". Once you see a fella with that name, you know he's cracked out of his mind
so being cracked out of your mind is a bad thing?
@@sssamjamyes pretty much
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Just wanna put out there that before Joel became a pro (He was already very good at a young age) he scammed some other swedish high level players out of at the very least $10k to fund his gambling addiction. He was 14/15 years old at the time. It probably is way more than $10k but I've only personally talked to a couple of the victims so I wouldn't know the extent of his scams. I wish I knew more honestly because I was very intrigued at the time but due to possible lawsuits etc I wasn't given much more than the rough estimate of the money scammed from the couple victims I talked to. He's been nothing but bad news since all of that happened.
What a Chad.
This guy was not cheating. Sometimes your opponent is just having a good day...
My guy he has BEEN BANNED what do you mean????
@@DerglesnafVROOOOooom (the sound of the joke going over your head)
Bro why this 0iq? @@Derglesnaf
nahh this guy acting😂
You should sort it by most sus moments instead of rounds, 9 minutes in and there is nothing really weird other than prefires and "lucky" kills through smokes and that makes me not want to watch it anymore.
hahahah i stoped at 8 min 21 sec and i was thinking the same
lol same I just checked my timeline its 8 minutes and I went into comments to look for a conclusion
view time brother thats how they get paid. Lucky hes monitzied so he gets some good moneyz
fun fact: if you keep your eyes open you will see the same habits joel shows in this demo like „look how he lines up perfectly through the wall. coincidence? I think not“ ah moments when observing almost every other pro player. Conclusions are up to you. You can see it pretty good on joel because he is kind of bad with movement and angles in comparison to other pros…
Yup, plus lots of clips look "sus" when you put it in slow-mo
His movement is good. And that’s not true at all. Go watch donk, Niko, monesy or any of them play. Prob around 60% of their shots are still reactionary even with shit tons of information. This guy literally had impeccable crosshair placement and impeccable timings every second of each round. Even off angles, double setups, or no information he wasn’t even scanning/reacting just blatantly lining people up. The clip at 13:01 has me dying too. Bro gets a perfect 3k with perfect crosshair placement. Meanwhile he’s been spam checking angles all game, then he’s like “oh shit that might’ve been sus” then just holds the worst possible angle for 10+ seconds. And doesn’t check temple once despite his teammate coming up donut…. I mean porn has better acting🤦🏽♂️
To the other team, playing against someone like this will be absolutely apparent. The cheater will shoot a millisecond ahead of seeing you turn the corner. So you’ll never get the first shot off. Any good player will know that it’s 50/50 depending on latency, reaction time, closeness to an angle, and speed of the peek versus the player holding. Even things like how far away to hold from a corner when centering your crosshair. Which in joel’s case he always holds as tight as possible. No room for error or overshoot. Nobody puts their crosshair right up against the wall. Unless they’re beginner. Or have inhuman reactions.
I think the worse cheaters are the ones that are already good at the game.
It's because of competitiveness. Wherever you have competition you will have cheating, especially if there's money involved. Some people are also so obsessed by being the best that they do whatever it takes, especially against pro players who are actually good at the game so they can make a name for themselves, it's really pathetic, but they don't seem to care.
Valve allows cheaters to roam freely in the game, causing grudge and hatred among people.
He was not banned mid game but he was banned before the match started when he launched his game through akros. Also in what world is CCT a 4 million dollar tournament?
lol yeah, this guys is comletely curios, he probably wrote the scrips himself with the 4m prize pool, for the title.
clueless*
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Yeah, when did CS host a tournament with 4m prizepool 😂 this guy js clueless af
Ngl most of his comments show he isn’t that good at the game
1:35 Right off the bat he keeps flicking his mouse to turn as he runs down middle and up to short. It looks like he’s checking elbow. But he’s not. He’s panning from B to A, seeing where the Ts are setting up to hit. And likely comming that to teammates. Why isn’t he supposed to check mid? Because he has a teammate sitting in cubby holding elbow. He has no reason to turn other than to confirm enemy positions through the wall. He repeats this behavior every single round. Random camera turns across the whole map. It looks smooth to the uninitiated. But watching it back, the unnatural movements make sense.
Would be sad to let such a good catch go unacknowledged. Nice spot, dude. We need more people like you in gaming. :)
3:08 clearly looking at the guy through the wall. if u pause it directly on that time u can see the exact pixel of him looking at the player through the wall before even peaking
this is more sus than many of the other comments, like why would you aim in the middle of the box there, either you aim right or left, it doesn't make sense as you say.
First round looked like he was a faceit level 3....
imagine CS pushing anti-cheat silently just before tournament to expose a lot of cheaters in the tournament.
all CS players should form a class action lawsuit against valve
to accomplish what exactly?
The in-game sounds are sooo loud
it would have been great enjoying your comments while the game sounds are lower and bit
Keep it up bro 🥰
I don't understand where the idea that he is using radar comes from. Judging from this and 2 other maps I've seen of him it's certainly some kind of wall hack, it fits his behavior much better.
I think every time he walks in to a smoke is the only part of his game that is blatant, he just does not get disoriented but will constantly turn the camera to face positions or opponents it's almost impossible for a legit player to re-create.
if you have somewhat decent movement and look at your minimap while in a smoke you wont get disoriented ever
but its obvious this dude got more than a minimap to help him in a smoke
Omg I haven't watched your channel in literally several years since even before covid I think. but I just outta the blue remembered it and so glad I found it again. I got alot to catch up on now.
I think you reversed the audio balancing on your channels by mistake.
nice audio mixing hahaha I can barely hear you
I can hear him just fine.. skill issue
@@PapaGrim01yeah when there‘s no game sound. 110 people seem to disagree with you. (Top comment and my comment)
@@PapaGrim01nah the audio mixing is awful
@@some1csgo take those 110 people and go somewhere else we dont care about this we care that someone does videos about the cheating that is constantly in online gaming now if you dont like the quality leave
@@abcw-sm8tryou‘re gonna have a tough time in life kiddo. This is what ‚comments‘ are for. Feedback. His videos will improve on feedback and reach more people. Doing effectively more for the community. This is good.
joel the clara trifecta
Damn it, Clara strikes again...
He was accused by one of the literal worst AC programs ever, that has been historically so bad it needed to be disabled to continue play.
While I'm not supporting or defending him, I'd like to get more confirmation than Akros.
Prize pools like this calls for cheating. I bet he was not the only one.
3:25 the mercy kill here is hilarious. “Oh the guy is 1hp, lets put him out if his misery.”
This game has so many hackers on ranked even there youtube commercials show the players having wall hacks lmao
Its like playing a game of csgo with your headset on and someone is speaking to you irl. 😂💀
you are my favorite reporter on this matter :>
5:35 can’t he hear the footsteps?
While I’m not excusing it, I do understand people cheating for money. People do a little worse for it. What really gets me is just your random average gamer cheating just “for fun.” Both are wrong, but I really can’t understand the mindset when money isn’t on the line
It ain't about the anticheat anymore, its about mentality..
You're telling me someone was cheating during a 4 million dollar tournament?! I could've never guessed someone would even attempt such a thing! Glad he got caught i suppose, really sucks for the rest of the competitors though.
TimeIsButaWindow, awesome video keep up the great content
Good, F em for doing this in a pro match. Cheating for prize money should result in prison time in all parts of the world. Its fraud at the least and breaching a secure PC at most. Valve should sue any pro caught using tools to cheat in games or making a profit by betting skins on there matches. Banning them isnt enough of a deterrent for these guys. They need real reasons to fear you. Not this sad excuse of an anti-cheat this game has to the point you need to PAY someone else to enjoy there game.
I say it again, every pro team cheats, literally everyone has a cheater. And the teams are ALL in on it together, they keep their mouths shut so they can make money together.
are u retarded?
3:30 crosshair placement on point😂
At this point I'm just watching the match without the narrator
Cheating or bet scam = lifetime ban.
How hard is it?
Calm down girls, if he gets banned because of that tournament it's for a reason, it's not like this guy is judging for free, you understand? There's evidence that you won't see here.
Team shouldn't be allowed to sub a cheater. Whole team should pay the price, then maybe they'd keep their players in check
Most of it looks fine tbh. Common spots, common angles, common pre-fires and some team play where the forward player clears right while Joel holds left and it just happens the enemy is left. 16:10 this whole play is fine the nades are fine, he hears a step as he leaves van, his teammate is tagged by him at default and he hard clears it. 17:50 there's so many angles he ignores but they might have heard the CT guy earlier and made a play where they assumed he'd be running to CT and tried to get a timing. the pre-aim is fine if he wasn't there he would have either held that exact angle or just peeked a bit wider. These games just feel pretty legit. But I suppose that's the point right...
Also the audio balancing sucks if I have it loud enough to hear you talk I get my ear drums blown out when they shoot or nade. Even closed captions just goes blank because it has NFI
I think he toggled off the last couple CT rounds on ancient, the way he plays/peeks is quite normal and different from all the other rounds
Possibly, because they're way ahead on scoreboard.
did you watch this video back bro?
@7:07 that was text book wall hacking. nothing to see in the smoke but snapped to the guys head and followed him with his crosshairs
I guess he played so good that people thinks it's hack.
lol. You fucking delusionnal. If you think he does good plays you crazy, and probably an old gold nova.
he got detected by the anti cheat. It's not just speculation lol
Nah bro just look at 9:07 , he does have wallhack :)
@@bbi2005 im not defending him in any way , but in that particular case its a very common pre aim/fire spot
@@Kevin-us7jcyes I did a lot of pre fire back in the day on 1.5. You know how high to aim and when you hear ppl walk you can time it just right. I’m not saying he didn’t cheat but at such high levels it’s hard to sometimes really know.
Im starting to think valve is letting them and just worried about map updates
The fact he constantly kills a player or two and turns his back and never checks for any more players is a big red flag
Not really
man i've missed you. feels like its been ages since i saw your videos. hope you're doing well man! hope your heart is doing a lot better too
Looks like a demo of a lvl10 smurfing in a silver lobby... Except that those are all pro players.
Did you say something during the match?
After all of this things... what do you thinks about flusha?
Well iykyk 🤫
@@Cornstarch999 and i know that he was chesting
With pros getting caught recently it makes me wonder how bad cheaters are on faceit
there is probably some in the highest level, thing is you need expensive private cheats thats hard to come by, so your average lvl 3-9 dude will most likely not have a private cheat unless they are filthy rich or knows how to code the cheat themself, i have 2300 faceit macthes in lvl 6-10 and ive come across 5 hackers where it was obivous, and a handful sus people that might used radar or very soft aim assist
@@mikeholm4455 I mean with dma cheating becoming more accessible it really isn't too expensive to get a UD cheat for faceit. Free dma cheat and a private custom firmware would go undetected on faceit
i have a private dma cheat on faceit ive been using for 4 years no ban😂
I mean yh if u have 3 braincells yk how to not grt caught with dma @@ceses6526
@@ceses6526is it some spray / aim assist? Or a wallhack? Just curious.
IN GAME AUDIO TOO LOUD!!!
constructive criticism the game audio is at 100 needs to be at 10 maybe 25 max. If we cant hear you there is no reason for you to be commentating. I actually muted this video at around the 8-9 min mark and still got just as much information as i would have if i had kept the sound on and tried to hear you. End of story the audio needs to be adjusted because we cant hear you over the constant explosions and gunfire.
the clara meme is still massive
If someone like guardian doesn't realize one of his guys is cheating i question his own credibility.
Had Joel under 36 kills one day this man had like 60 with no overtimes it’s crazy
What resolution do you play at?
no one would cheat when there's money on the line... no one. Not even professional athletes, thats just crazy!
in 18:34 you can see on detail (0.25x) how he starts swinging right very smoothly exactly before the guy's leg is out the wall (maybe at the time)... those reflexes are impossible. Also he preaims the enemy though the wall before repicking, what has no sense as the enemy could be on the right or have a teammate with him. He was definentelly walling in some rounds.
Also the last bullet when the enemy jumps on the left and he stops shoting, goes weirdly following the enemy but the crosshair did not change position...
that smoke for the ninja defuse look so weird when he throws it,
i rly tried focusing on the video, but your loud mic always distracted me.
Few of them are actually questionable, it shall be all clear if we could hear their call-outs in those matches
so Cs2 anticheat only works in tournament? Prime server flooded with chinese spinbot
5:40 that's completely normal though, because the bomb is down, it's very likely people would swing him when he throws a smoke to try and catch him before the smoke blooms. He's just prefiring under the assumption that they will swing.
Some questionable choices, some questionable moments. I dont think those demos themself would be enough. There was one moment at the first map that was red flag for me, but most of other moments could be given to doubts.
Lol that second death in the warm up was everything you needed to know.
1:15 hes already looking through the walls
Not really, he's just positioning the crosshair at logical spots, enemy just happens to be behind that walls. I thought it would be obvious cheating video, but I sincerely watched half of the video and didn't see obvious cheat yet, also he looks pretty mid compared to other pros.
PS: Are there really 4 million $$$ prize matches played on uncontrolled environments?
Where can I hear your full commentary without cuts
@5:17. What is that. He turns automatically when the awp fires
This event had a $50,000 prize pool. Not 4 million. Not even a major has a $4 million prize pool
he was still caught cheating on the pro scene by akros anti cheat, using aimbot and wallhack !
He is just never unlucky and always seems to pick a free route to his objective. He is 100% cheating.
Volume of the game too loud. Can't hear your voice at times.
16:29 when he molly the enemy he jumped off balcony car, at same time his team is pushing short and giving info he is car. Of course they know where he is. When they killed bench guy they knew he had to be site or rockets. Invisible showed he is default he pushed and got trade. CS 101
wasn't this guy also accused of match fixing but there wasn't enough evidence found?
13:05 imagine not checking ct when ur teammate is already holding the same angle. bro trying too hard to go unnoticed lmao
Exactly my thoughts.
Do you mean not checking temple?
Pre-shooting is an old time old school technique against pro-players. I did this a lot in my hay days when I when a pro clan challenged us, and my clan wasn't really in it to become professionals, but were just having fun. Footsteps were always a dead give away especially if you have a gaming headset with virtual surround. Before I even pop on a corner I'm already shooting. And when you've been playing long enough you also develop a third sense where all people are either hiding or will come from and your timing becomes second nature. A lot of what is being shown here are not even definitive proof of cheating.
At 1.55 why does he check his back?
game audio is so quiet can u lift up the volume of the game audio
5:29 Heard a footstep. I might have sprayed the box too knowing they might swing.
5:03 What interests me is when he goes into that corner and aims at the wall and not the opening when the enemy was across from him behind the wall. What was he focusing on? The map or a cheat?
Dude look @ 3:50 when he checked enemies behind him. Watch where his crosshair was pointing. 😂 Pretty easy to spot a cheater.
Tbh his pre aim is not sus at all .
That's because he's a pro player. Pro players who get caught cheating, are still at the pro level and at the top 1% of players. Their just scum who try to get an easy win especially happens when a lot of money is on the line.
it seems like you have some audio setting activated, that lowers the volume of your microphone recording, because the video takes precedence. It should be setup in the opposite way if anything.
extreme garbage video. no one can hear you and no one can understand what is happening and where exactly is he cheating
How can he use wallhack when the coach is standing right behind him?
5:40 you can see that the T picked up the bomb after it was dropped, and you should know that you can see the dropped bomb stops pinging in the minimap once its picked up, so this prefire wasn't sus at all imo
just the way he pushes B in different situations considered enemie positions, makes you think the guy is cheating:
- Pushes running when there is no one close
- Stops and shots through smoke when enemie is exactly there.
- Changes the angle to the right of the door when the enemy is camping left...
For me, and being unders suspect, this would be 99% cheater behaviour (sometimes could be just coincidence or luck, but it does not seem to..)
Can't watch this. The game audio is overriding your explanation. I have no idea what's going on.
The moment they added glove skins and changed the models the game went downhill…
he plays exactly like my friend whos been cheating on cs2 & csgo for the last 6 years.
My friend also is not banned.
I told him when he gets banned i'll play CS again.
Where is in game footage of him using cheat?
He literally plays like such a noob. That rushed rotate back through cave to B to A was clownlike, you would NEVER do this in his situation given the info he had. Just shows that any noob could be a pro with cheats.
Can barely hear you over the game audio. Need to lower it or fix in editing.
Who tf edited this video and said it was good for release lol? Can’t hear anything being said at all. The silent m4 is louder than the guy talking.