I'll try to give as much information as I can on the matter, as someone who practiced a lot with swords (especially curved ones) and has taken interest in shastarvidiya and gatka, martial arts that actually use tulwars, dhals and other equipement. Protruding of the tang that you call spike, even when it is not that long, is used to deliver strikes to the head or the arm holding a blade. Very long ones can be, and are used for additional grip and hooking rims of shields and arms out of the way, but usually are found on khanda swords and other, heavier and exotically shaped blades. Tulwar is almost exclusively one handed sword and the only way to practicaly use two hands on it is to put hand holding the blade in other hand (if your tulwar has no D guard that will be in the way). On dhal usage. Yes, that type of handle is used to allow other things to be held in an off hand as well, but not the scabbard. Pesh kabz (dagger) or katar (punch dagger) or even all three simultaneously. In difference to European style sword and buckler, dhal and tulwar are not held in unison, as it would severely reduce the effectiveness of such a curved blade. European style uses push cuts and thrusts a lot, utilising a straight bladed sword (usually). Tulwar is essentially a sabre, and as such, cuts better with draw cuts and circular strikes. Indian style of combat also avoids any blade on blade contact, so neither dhal nor tulwar are put away from the body, instead avoiding incoming strikes with movement or intercepting with a dhal and dagger when avoiding is impossible. Last thing, Indian sword usually feature very tight handles that emphasise draw cuts, making other types of strikes much harder, if not entirely impossible to perform, depending on the construction of the handle. Thumb is held up, parallel to the blade, helping with overall control of the blade. Hope this will answer a few questions.
Great information. Thanks for the comment. Yeah this was more of a theory craft thing. I hope it didn't come off as me saying this is how it should be used. My intention is just to put some ideas out there about things that might work (whether or not they were done historically or are done modernly). Kind of just... observations about what might be possible. Also definitely get what you mean about the tight handle necessitating draw cuts. That disc and tight grip even goes as far as to punish the user a little for not doing it. It's one of the more interesting elements of design I've seen with swords. Because it's so constrained that it sort of trains the user to swing it in a particular manner in order to avoid pain and discomfort. It's a blade that almost teaches you how to use it to some degree (or at least learns you what you definitely shouldn't do) by virtue of it's design.
I am an Indian swordsman.... i have some things to add: 2:31 If you do that to an Indian swords man you will loose the hand along with your shield. Indians are known best for their pivots before they attack. The spike surprisingly was originally meant as a pommel. you people, Matt included have no idea as to how a real fight takes place in the real world. That spike was made to strike unarmed opponents when they held your hand by your elbow or lower preventing you from striking down with your blade. the studs on the dhal r given not for the purpose of hitting your opponents with it. its given so that your opponent"s sword doesnt slip off the dhal and hit you anywhere in the body. there are my 3 cents...
There are so many things I want to say... but I won't Save to compliment you on having the gumption to put out your video. Who would I be to talk, after all? I've never made a video in my life.
+loyalsausages A mature stance to take. But if you have what you feel are valuable critiques or contentions with something I have put forward. By all means voice them. Most of my videos thus far are just tossing ideas out there and seeing if they hold up (And I've been lucky enough to have one or two of them tested by people with better means). Nothing wrong with a healthy debate. And if the more of what you have to say are compliments or questions. I encourage those as well :p
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I'll try to give as much information as I can on the matter, as someone who practiced a lot with swords (especially curved ones) and has taken interest in shastarvidiya and gatka, martial arts that actually use tulwars, dhals and other equipement. Protruding of the tang that you call spike, even when it is not that long, is used to deliver strikes to the head or the arm holding a blade. Very long ones can be, and are used for additional grip and hooking rims of shields and arms out of the way, but usually are found on khanda swords and other, heavier and exotically shaped blades. Tulwar is almost exclusively one handed sword and the only way to practicaly use two hands on it is to put hand holding the blade in other hand (if your tulwar has no D guard that will be in the way). On dhal usage. Yes, that type of handle is used to allow other things to be held in an off hand as well, but not the scabbard. Pesh kabz (dagger) or katar (punch dagger) or even all three simultaneously. In difference to European style sword and buckler, dhal and tulwar are not held in unison, as it would severely reduce the effectiveness of such a curved blade. European style uses push cuts and thrusts a lot, utilising a straight bladed sword (usually). Tulwar is essentially a sabre, and as such, cuts better with draw cuts and circular strikes. Indian style of combat also avoids any blade on blade contact, so neither dhal nor tulwar are put away from the body, instead avoiding incoming strikes with movement or intercepting with a dhal and dagger when avoiding is impossible.
Last thing, Indian sword usually feature very tight handles that emphasise draw cuts, making other types of strikes much harder, if not entirely impossible to perform, depending on the construction of the handle. Thumb is held up, parallel to the blade, helping with overall control of the blade. Hope this will answer a few questions.
Great information. Thanks for the comment. Yeah this was more of a theory craft thing. I hope it didn't come off as me saying this is how it should be used. My intention is just to put some ideas out there about things that might work (whether or not they were done historically or are done modernly). Kind of just... observations about what might be possible.
Also definitely get what you mean about the tight handle necessitating draw cuts. That disc and tight grip even goes as far as to punish the user a little for not doing it. It's one of the more interesting elements of design I've seen with swords. Because it's so constrained that it sort of trains the user to swing it in a particular manner in order to avoid pain and discomfort. It's a blade that almost teaches you how to use it to some degree (or at least learns you what you definitely shouldn't do) by virtue of it's design.
I am an Indian swordsman.... i have some things to add:
2:31 If you do that to an Indian swords man you will loose the hand along with your shield. Indians are known best for their pivots before they attack.
The spike surprisingly was originally meant as a pommel. you people, Matt included have no idea as to how a real fight takes place in the real world. That spike was made to strike unarmed opponents when they held your hand by your elbow or lower preventing you from striking down with your blade.
the studs on the dhal r given not for the purpose of hitting your opponents with it. its given so that your opponent"s sword doesnt slip off the dhal and hit you anywhere in the body.
there are my 3 cents...
Dear sir please share the anatomy details if Indian swords like a curved one , a tega and a khanda
There are so many things I want to say... but I won't
Save to compliment you on having the gumption to put out your video. Who would I be to talk, after all? I've never made a video in my life.
+loyalsausages
A mature stance to take. But if you have what you feel are valuable critiques or contentions with something I have put forward. By all means voice them. Most of my videos thus far are just tossing ideas out there and seeing if they hold up (And I've been lucky enough to have one or two of them tested by people with better means). Nothing wrong with a healthy debate. And if the more of what you have to say are compliments or questions. I encourage those as well :p
This is odd
Odd in a bad way or odd in a good way?
+TheHelleri Different thats all