The Best OK Players Ever (with Foolish Baseball) | Wake n Jake | March 10
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When Bailey said I'm going to draft a catcher and did not immediately follow up with Jeff Mathis I was dissapointed.
Jose Molina is a slightly better hitter & equal to better defense than Mathis. I believe he is even mentioned in his Mathis video
@@catman-du8927Jose Molina is in my opinion not better than Mathis’ defense especially with the framing involved, yes to hitting, no to def
@@Hauntz_er Jose Molina was a much better framer than Jeff Mathis, at least according to Fangraphs. Jose Molina's 143.5 to 64.1 for Mathis. The framing numbers don't include the beginning of Jose Molina's career so it is possible that between 1999 & 2007 he was a horrible framer. It's also possible that Mathis was an amazing framer between 2005 & 2007 when there is no framing data. But the data Fangraphs has (2008 & onwards) says Jose Molina is a better framer & it isn't even close.
Im only 10 minutes in, but this is already the ultimate "remember some guys" Jason Kubel, Tony Womack, and Ty Wigginton in the first three picks? *Chef's kiss*
Bailey and Jake need to do a weekly show together
Even if its once every two weeks or even a monthhhhh! We neeeed ittt😭
^^^ this channel doesn’t get enough views
@@fratrickmachomes5263 I think a Jake and Bailey pod changes the baseball landscape
Let's go sparking one up now. Coffee poured let's get this colon rollin
Dickie Sams knows what's up!
I’m late but still with you on this
Coffee before baseball vids gang
Jorge Cantu was like Salvy Perez tier of not walking. He managed a .311 OPB in that 2005 season despite his .286 average. 19 walks in 631 PAs.
Finally, a baseball show in which my man Hee-Seop Choi can get some mother-flippin respect.
I've made a roster exclusively composed of players who were either born in Louisiana or played here in college or the minors.
I started with an honorable mention of Warren Morris, rWAR of 2.9, solely for the most iconic hit in college baseball history. He was third in Rookie of the Year voting in 1999, but injuries prevented him from progressing at all in the pros.
My lineup is:
Brad Hawpe at RF (rWAR of 4.5 and 1-time All Star, received MVP votes in two seasons);
Endy Chavez at CF (squeaking in with an rWAR of exactly 5.0 but with no individual accolades other than 2002 September NL Rookie of the Month and 5 double plays turned in 2004, the most of any outfielder that year);
Mike Morse at LF (rWAR of 4.0, 19th in MVP voting in 2011 and 2014 World Series winner);
Pat Listach at SS (rWAR of 4.4, 1992 ROY and 18th in MVP voting that year, was absolute hot garbage at the plate after that season);
Sean Berry at 3B (rWAR of 4.8, had 6.2 WAR spread across the 1995-1998 seasons but he immediately threw in a -2.1 WAR season in 1999 which got him back to the list of eligible players here);
Mike Fontenot at 2B (rWAR of 4.2, 2010 World Series winner despite not making a plate appearance in that series, solid player who most notably logged a .909 OPS despite only hitting 9 homers in 2008);
Logan Morrison at 1B (rWAR of 3.9, had OPS+ of 123 in his rookie season and 133 much later in his career, overall just a solid offensive player);
and finally Lenny Webster at C (rWAR of 3.3, his career really took a nosedive after 1995 offensively, but he hung around the bigs in a bit-part catching role for over a decade. Only logged 100 games or more once in his career).
Steve Balboni is an easy sleeper. Sexual presence is off the charts. 181 homers, 101 OPS+. 7 straight seasons of 17+ homers, 5 of 23+. 2 straight seasons with MVP votes. An impressive -7.6 dWAR at first base.
Another fun fact, he had a 3 hit game in his last career game and his nickname was Bye Bye.
Another another fun fact, the 2 guys he hit the most homers off of were Frank Tanana and Dave Stieb. Also his 3 career walk-off home runs came off of all-star closers including Rollie Fingers and Dennis Eckersley.
I think I love Steve Balboni
Tony Womack had a really good year for us in STL.
I take Craig Monroe. 3.6 WAR and he was very reliable on those Tigers teams.
I am so pumped that Willie got picked! My childhood was built on those disgustingly average Mariners teams
Jason Kubel is my favorite player of all time. Dude would have been extremely good if not for the knee injuries. His cycle game was beautiful to watch live
I'm gonna let you finish but Raul Ibanez had the best walkup music of all time ("Werewolves of London" because of that part where it sounds like they go "Rauuuuul").
These guys together is something special
This was fun. Thanks for these and for the crossovers.
Alright, my Brewers only "Best OK Players" (in batting order)
2B - Joe Inglett
RF - Domingo Santana
LF - Eric Thames
1B - Chris Carter
3B - Casey McGehee
SS - Hernan Perez
CF - Keon Broxton
C - Erik Kratz
P - Manny Parra
Santana, Thames, Perez, Carter, Broxton, and Parra could all (in theory) come back though, they all played games last year
Eric Thames, nice!
mindblown by that Homestar Runner fact! my mom actually designed a homestar runner pen for the brothers chaps merch store, when I was a kid and they were her customers I got to talk to them on the phone in character, it was an awesome treat. got to ask strong bad an strong bad email question over the phone.
Love both of your guys' content!
Bailey deserves all the best. A great dude & a true fan.
No Skip Schumaker!? Center field/OF and 2B flex.
You guys should post the links to the bref/fangraphs pages you are looking at in the show notes so the viewers can follow along and learn how to use the tools
Not that deep
Ryan Ludwick is the first name that came to my head. Had one stellar year but outside of that was the definition of "ok".
As a Royals fan, this is the closest thing I'll get to love for my team.
me and my brother used to do something like this where we would just try to dig up as many obscure athletes as we could off the top of our heads. he surrendered for good when i conjured up from the deepest reserves of my recall, Robert Fick.
I was told Bailey is a Braves fan so of course I love him and will sacrifice my life before his self.
dante bichette is a great pick if you allow guys on the 5.x range, rey ordonez, ike davis are some other picks i like
in the same vein, fernando tatis was a very solid does-it-all util guy in his later years
oh they brought him up at 39:00 and determined he was too good lol
Thanks for the middle names tip Bailey. I just found out Carter Kieboom’s middle name is Alswinn, I’m definitely gonna have to start up a chant next time he’s in Queens (especially if he makes the Nats opening day roster). That’s just too good an opportunity to pass up
Bailey Freeman and Arn Anderson, Rome Georgia's favorite sons.
Doug Mirabelli is a no brainer behind the dish
Most memorable thing about Mirabelli was the borderline cartoon mitt he used to catch Wakefield.
I would take Mike Matheny
He may have been considered better than ok but Placido Polanco was one of the most underrated players of my childhood!
Dude has 42 WAR. He's hall of very good.
How about Carlos Guillen?
bailey and jake is a lethal duo
John Jaha would have been amazing had he stayed healthy, but injuries put him in the "OK" range with a couple of 30+ HR seasons.
No way on that homestar runner fact that’s amazing
I have to mention I was looking up Kubel and Wiggington before you guys even said them on this video lol.
I feel like the clear next step with stats and numbers is get the OPS+ average at every Position and that way u can better judge a certain guy at a certain position. Like a catcher with a long career with an OPS+ of like 95, you take that from a catcher. So adjust for position
Watching this video a few days after Miles Straw climbed the Yankee Stadium fence and hearing Jake say "Miles Straw, more like Mild Flaw"
This is a great draft idea I’d have Wigginton or Chavez myself. Cantu having negative war is crazy didn’t expect that
Thames mashed in Japan last year in 10 games... he could still come back!
He is 😎
This is awesome
I was hoping for Kevin Kouzmanoff to get a mention. First pitch to ever see in the MLB was a grand slam 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
He had almost an 8 war
Maybe the most sauceless theme song in podcasting.
Bailey and BBD:
Jake: "Damn imma spicy meatball"
Bailey is awesome
xavier nady's early career path was wild. still never played a single game at AA ball lol
Oh man, I talked to Xavier Nady during a AAA game when he had just gotten assigned to the Colorado Sky Sox, really nice guy. He was still trying to figure out what a Sky Sock was at the time, I definitely sympathized with that.
David Delucci was the first name I thought of, glad to see he got picked.
BBD with the mid-2000s Royals love.
Pokey Reese and Doug Mirabelli. No bias of course
My best friend’s cousin is Aaron Rowand. Has a nice house. Pretty good player at the time.
"Know how some baseball players, just cause of the helmet and the hat and the jersey, sometimes more neck stands out? Luis Matos had that, and that's why I'm taking him" -Jake Storiale.
Here is my draft team:
LF: Ryan Raburn
RF: Ryan Spillborghs
CF: Skip Shumaker
3B: Garrett Atkins
SS: Cesar Izturis (exception needed)
2B: Akinori Iwamura
1B: Brandon Moss
C: Jarrod Saltalamacchia (exception also needed as he just barely crosses over the 5 war mark)
I think the other brad hawpe you guys are thinking about was seth smith.
I tried thinking of guys off the dome that I thought had mediocre careers and all of them except Eddie Perez had a WAR over 5 lol. Granted, most of my baseball knowledge for full rosters is limited from like 1995 -2001
I think Morse is the guy who had to do a fake redo hr swing cuz the ball went out but nobody was sure, the call is legendary
This is easy for me, the GOAT Chad Tracy is easily the best pick for 3rd base!
BAILEY NEEDS A PERMAMENT SPOT. MAKE IT HAPPEN
Bake that algo!!!
Based Wigginton pick. Remember him as part of the Rockies
I'm trying to imagine Mike Morse playing short stop.... That would have been a sight
He had an over 5 war but man John McDonald would be my guy for short
Craig Monroe fell through the cracks here
Brandon Moss and Chris Carter would be the middle of my lineup
37:25 the quote came from Mauer
Bake it baby
Wait foolish Bailey has another channel?
Holy s**t what is it
@@igbsmf Foolish Baseball and Foolish Bailey
@@drewm5898 whhhhhhhaaaaaatttt noooooooooooooooooooooo wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy
I'm a big So Taguchi guy myself
this Bailey guy is as likeable as Jake is unlikeable
is this like a primus thing where everyone says they suck as part of a bit or is this for real
@@ARMTOAST ooh that's a tough one who sucks more Jake or Primus legit the world may never know
The jose vidro memorial draft
PEDRO ALVAREZ!! Only guy you guys are missing. Was the best slugger in the national league for a year
Cantú had over 3,000 ABs and a career -0.1 bWAR. The definition of a replacement level career.
2.7 career fWAR though, almost entirely carried by his 2008 season where he had 29 homers and an OPS of .808
I'm just here as the spokesman for the Eli Marrero fan club
It goes like this:
Starting 9
C Charles Johnson
1B Joe Pepitone
2B Ray Durham
SS Rey Sanchez
3B Rance Mulliniks
LF Jeff Conine
CF Claudell Washington
RF Bobby Higginson
DH B.J. Surhoff
Bench
C Eddie Perez
UT Joel Youngblood
IF David Eckstein
OF Joe Orsulak
Rotation
SP Dave Burba
SP Don Larsen
SP Steve Avery
SP Shane Rawley
SP Jeff Samardzija
Bullpen
LR Bob Shirley
LR Ramiro Mendoza
MR Brian Boheringer
MR Donne Wall
MR Luis DeLeon
SU Esteban Yan
CP Todd Jones
Literally none of these guys have < 5 WAR
@@markglover6156 I didn't catch that was one of the requirements.
JM Media should drop jolly for foolish tbh
This always reminds me that I need to get high and take a morning bike ride
jake looking extra handsome this episode not sure what it is in particular but hes glowing
ok im glad this was addressed in the episode i wrote this at minute 1
Jason Werth Baby
More Bailey plz
Cruz signed with the Nats
JEFF WEAVER
Does Jack Cust qualify?
Anyone else search the players through baseball reference as they drafted or is that just me? 😅
I remember some guys
Love the David DeJesus love. Best player on some bad teams for a long time
Jack Wilson came to mind but fuck who knew he has a 23.5 bWAR. Also I could make one of these teams for every other year of my pirates fandom
Which makes me shocked Jason Bay only had 24.8 lol
feels like 2 current guys who’d be great on that list in 10 years are david fletcher and miguel sano
Jose Tabata
Omg you said his last name?!??!!?!!
Michael Barrett.
I played for the twins my wife’s so hot 😂😂😂
NOBODY TOOK WILY MO PENA?
commented this before u guys mentioned him at the very end haha damn
Bake!
I will be upset if Akinori Iwamura is not mentioned
Benny Agbayani
Chiba Lotte Marines legend
angel pagan
WAR of 18
Someone has a Royals fetish 👀 😳
Please can we get more Foolish Bailey
Does Trevor Plouffe sing the intro
Im the 666th like...... time to listen to Iron Maiden Number of the Beast
No Fred Lewis Disgraceful
Nice Zit mr freeman