i can see his point for killing Rikishi. it's allow for emotional build up and show more vulnerable side of Joe. Personally, i really love post Rikishi's dead... the emotional journey that Joe had been through it's felt so realistic, really well developed depressing tone.
7 years later so i doubt you'd reply but, i do have the same sentiment. the first half of the manga had joe fighting for rishiki, the one man to really truly stand against him , and the one man to take him seriously. Afterwards, you can very very well see joes , decline, in a way, from life itself. He had that menacing scream upon hearing the news. The continues and seamless character change throughout the rest of the manga is surreal to think about.
@@JOYBOY-1115 to be honest i knew he was going to die from spoilers but I didn't know when seeing it at the half way pointwas kinda shocking I didn't know joe 2 was the half after he died so I thought his death was more near the end of the 70+ episodes it really did give joe an air of humanity as his death fundamentally shock him to his core modern anime don't really do that anymore.
Ok man like i am on episode 44 i am still watching and i enjoy it a lot probably the best anime out there i saw that joe dies too but i am gonna watch the hole of it because its very inspiring
How did I miss this until now?! Chiba is really a beautiful artist. His drawings have SO much heart and grit and movement! Sometimes I'll still stop and look at a single panel of his and be completely blown away by it. There's more ink and shading used on ONE of his pages than in an entire fine-lined manga story of today! To underscore the importance of this manga; the very respected 1960's Avant Garde film and theater director, Nagisa Oshima, contributed to Rikiishi's staged funeral. And when, only a week after Rikiishi's print death, members of the Japanese Leftist terrorist group, The Red Army, hijacked a passenger jet to defect to North Korea, they issued a statement claiming, "We are Ashita no Joe"! The story of Joe and Rikiishi resonated so deeply within the culture of that time that it was being interpreted as a serious measure of class and politics!
was a VERY random thing to see in my youtube feed, i mean i was looking up some little clips of ashita no joe, but to see the author himself, the man behind it, talking about something like this so personally. Man that really means the world, thanks for posting this video.
Yeah he destroyed my childhood innocence but not with Rikishi's death, but with Joe death and Carlos horrible fate. Only second season was aired in Arabic which is kinda surprising because Arabs used to censore kids show which include violence, death and Romance. But till this day Ashita no Joe is my number 1 show even though it took me almost 20 years to understand Joe's choices.
Haven't read the manga, but watch the 70's anime version. The story, characters, drama and actions are really great and memorable. Even the animation is really smooth. Agree with Buck2... everything is amazing !
Wow! This is like the Japanese equivalent to War of The Worlds. Where the original broadcast in the USA terrified people (with Orson Welles behind the microphone-narrating the grim facade), Rikiishi's death actually made so much of an impact on Japan, there was even a real-life funeral dedicated to this character (Tetsuya's art and incredibly involved revisions with his editor to make the story impactful)! That is incredible!
Pencil Warrior Nope! Every real otaku knows that the first death in manga history is the death of Rikiishi Tooru! It was so amazing that 400 otaku in Japan attended and made a funeral for the character!
You want that information?! Alright then: mangabrog.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/ashita-no-joe-as-phenomenon-and-political-icon/ Although I said 400, I wasn't sure about the accuracy of the number, but here is the article! If you don't want to click the link however, here is the article: A funeral service was held for Tooru Rikiishi in an auditorium at Shonen Magazine publisher Kodansha’s Tokyo headquarters on March 24, 1970, roughly a month after the character passed away in the magazine. Some 700 fans managed to attend, somehow, though it was held on a Tuesday afternoon, when most of them presumably had school or work. Staged by avant-garde theater troupe Tenjo Sajiki (“Ceiling Gallery”), the service was complete with a picture of the deceased overlooking a boxing ring brought in from Korakuen Hall, and included the standard reading of sutras and lighting of incense, as well as a somewhat less conventional KO count to ten on a gong. The eulogy was read by troupe leader Shuji Terayama, who described Rikiishi as “an illusionary force of the Establishment dreamed up by slum guerilla Joe Yabuki”.
It is very hard for me, to kill my own charackter when i made a very deep bond, over the years. My main character i have since i was 9, now i am 27. To kill him in a young age, is just sad. Well, actually i have planned to kill him, cause he is one of those people who never grows up and die as a late teenager or in the beginning of the twentis. But still... it's sad. I am a very emotional person. Crying for everything, even Flying Lamb of One Piece °xD But the death of the main character i also find it good. Cause death is a part of the world.
It's weird, why does Chiba talk about the story as if he wrote it? Of course he would have had the largest input of anyone, but wasn't it Ikki who was the writer for Joe?
+Maloolz Yes! Ikki wrote it, and Chiba drew it. I still feel bad for what happened to Ikki's daughter. She was kidnapped for ransom, tortured, and her body was mutilated in a sewage ditch held down by dumbbells. She was a little girl, too. I'm glad he wasn't alive to witness it. She was killed in 1997. Life is a very very cruel place. This is why I buy and support his work more than any Mangaka, except for, Osamu Tezuka. Hopefully, the money goes to support her Mother's foundation to help kids from being abducted.
parag3247 I'm glad that they did. I'm a psyche major and I still can't figure out what would possess someone to do that to an innocent person, let alone a little harmless kid. It's not even human, it's something else. I wish they would have caught them before she died though. They kidnapped her for ransom not because of Ikki, but because of his ex-wife who was a famous Taiwanese singer. Situations like this makes me think a lot about life. None of us are safe from someone who wants to commit violence against you. It's hard not to think negative but it's sadly our reality.
MickyMicky Mike as someone who has gone to many a mental hospitals and worked with mentally I'll people, it's essentially, a feeling that's been pent up and then pops in the form of harming others. It's awful, it's truly disgusting that any human has to have a mental illness, but even worse that some of the victims of their crimes never get release when their culprits aren't found. It's awful. It's disgusting. And that little girl, I'm happy they were caught, I wish they had the death sentence tbh
i can see his point for killing Rikishi. it's allow for emotional build up and show more vulnerable side of Joe. Personally, i really love post Rikishi's dead... the emotional journey that Joe had been through it's felt so realistic, really well developed depressing tone.
7 years later so i doubt you'd reply but, i do have the same sentiment. the first half of the manga had joe fighting for rishiki, the one man to really truly stand against him , and the one man to take him seriously. Afterwards, you can very very well see joes , decline, in a way, from life itself. He had that menacing scream upon hearing the news. The continues and seamless character change throughout the rest of the manga is surreal to think about.
@@JOYBOY-1115 to be honest i knew he was going to die from spoilers but I didn't know when seeing it at the half way pointwas kinda shocking I didn't know joe 2 was the half after he died so I thought his death was more near the end of the 70+ episodes it really did give joe an air of humanity as his death fundamentally shock him to his core modern anime don't really do that anymore.
when the manga and the anime adaptation were both masterpieces, you gotta miss those days
RIP Osamu Dezaki
I would have gone to his funeral too :(
Rikiishi havent you met in heaven already with joe?
Ok man like i am on episode 44 i am still watching and i enjoy it a lot probably the best anime out there i saw that joe dies too but i am gonna watch the hole of it because its very inspiring
@Rikiishi tnx and is better than hajime no ippo i like ippo but i find joe more inspiring
Same here 😢
Same
How did I miss this until now?! Chiba is really a beautiful artist. His drawings have SO much heart and grit and movement! Sometimes I'll still stop and look at a single panel of his and be completely blown away by it. There's more ink and shading used on ONE of his pages than in an entire fine-lined manga story of today!
To underscore the importance of this manga; the very respected 1960's Avant Garde film and theater director, Nagisa Oshima, contributed to Rikiishi's staged funeral. And when, only a week after Rikiishi's print death, members of the Japanese Leftist terrorist group, The Red Army, hijacked a passenger jet to defect to North Korea, they issued a statement claiming, "We are Ashita no Joe"!
The story of Joe and Rikiishi resonated so deeply within the culture of that time that it was being interpreted as a serious measure of class and politics!
was a VERY random thing to see in my youtube feed, i mean i was looking up some little clips of ashita no joe, but to see the author himself, the man behind it, talking about something like this so personally. Man that really means the world, thanks for posting this video.
Shayne Williams he is actually the artist not the writer
Yeah he destroyed my childhood innocence but not with Rikishi's death, but with Joe death and Carlos horrible fate. Only second season was aired in Arabic which is kinda surprising because Arabs used to censore kids show which include violence, death and Romance. But till this day Ashita no Joe is my number 1 show even though it took me almost 20 years to understand Joe's choices.
Just watched the corresponding anime episode in 2021 and I'm as much shocked and sad for Rikishi's death as these people were.
It was exceptionally well done
Haven't read the manga, but watch the 70's anime version. The story, characters, drama and actions are really great and memorable. Even the animation is really smooth. Agree with Buck2... everything is amazing !
Wow this video has been here since 2010 and I'm just seeing this now. Thanks for uploading this!
He didn't decide to kill Rikiishi, it was Kajiwara Ikki's decision. Chiba was against it.
One of the most emotionally powerful deaths in all of fiction. Absolutely beautiful story
this is drawer no writer,RIGHT????????
@@kamalali2413 yeah he drew it some other guy wrote the story
Wow! This is like the Japanese equivalent to War of The Worlds. Where the original broadcast in the USA terrified people (with Orson Welles behind the microphone-narrating the grim facade), Rikiishi's death actually made so much of an impact on Japan, there was even a real-life funeral dedicated to this character (Tetsuya's art and incredibly involved revisions with his editor to make the story impactful)! That is incredible!
I won't be satisfied with my manga career until I can have my readers have even half that connection to one of my characters.
Keep going then
Ore wa Teppei n Ashita no Joe is my childhood's golden age. Thank u very much, Chiba Sensei
Amazing
why would they call him he was not the author ... he was the illustrator ... they one who killed both was Kajiwara
Hey, are you still around here? I would like to add spanish subs if possible
The first death in Manga history!
I'm pretty sure there were other deaths
Pencil Warrior Nope! Every real otaku knows that the first death in manga history is the death of Rikiishi Tooru! It was so amazing that 400 otaku in Japan attended and made a funeral for the character!
+MALEMization oh damn
where did you get the information?
You want that information?! Alright then:
mangabrog.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/ashita-no-joe-as-phenomenon-and-political-icon/
Although I said 400, I wasn't sure about the accuracy of the number, but here is the article! If you don't want to click the link however, here is the article:
A funeral service was held for Tooru Rikiishi in an auditorium at Shonen Magazine
publisher Kodansha’s Tokyo headquarters on March 24, 1970, roughly a
month after the character passed away in the magazine. Some 700 fans
managed to attend, somehow, though it was held on a Tuesday afternoon,
when most of them presumably had school or work. Staged by avant-garde
theater troupe Tenjo Sajiki (“Ceiling Gallery”), the service was
complete with a picture of the deceased overlooking a boxing ring
brought in from Korakuen Hall, and included the standard reading of
sutras and lighting of incense, as well as a somewhat less conventional
KO count to ten on a gong. The eulogy was read by troupe leader Shuji
Terayama, who described Rikiishi as “an illusionary force of the
Establishment dreamed up by slum guerilla Joe Yabuki”.
I was wondering if that event would happened to Yuri(Rikiishi's counterpart) if he dies and it's the same event.
It is very hard for me, to kill my own charackter when i made a very deep bond, over the years. My main character i have since i was 9, now i am 27. To kill him in a young age, is just sad. Well, actually i have planned to kill him, cause he is one of those people who never grows up and die as a late teenager or in the beginning of the twentis. But still... it's sad. I am a very emotional person. Crying for everything, even Flying Lamb of One Piece °xD
But the death of the main character i also find it good. Cause death is a part of the world.
Ha fondato un impero su un pugile
A fucking legend
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It's weird, why does Chiba talk about the story as if he wrote it? Of course he would have had the largest input of anyone, but wasn't it Ikki who was the writer for Joe?
+Maloolz Yes! Ikki wrote it, and Chiba drew it. I still feel bad for what happened to Ikki's daughter. She was kidnapped for ransom, tortured, and her body was mutilated in a sewage ditch held down by dumbbells. She was a little girl, too. I'm glad he wasn't alive to witness it. She was killed in 1997. Life is a very very cruel place. This is why I buy and support his work more than any Mangaka, except for, Osamu Tezuka. Hopefully, the money goes to support her Mother's foundation to help kids from being abducted.
+MickyMicky Mike Well at least they got the bastards who did it
parag3247 I'm glad that they did. I'm a psyche major and I still can't figure out what would possess someone to do that to an innocent person, let alone a little harmless kid. It's not even human, it's something else. I wish they would have caught them before she died though. They kidnapped her for ransom not because of Ikki, but because of his ex-wife who was a famous Taiwanese singer. Situations like this makes me think a lot about life. None of us are safe from someone who wants to commit violence against you. It's hard not to think negative but it's sadly our reality.
MickyMicky Mike If i were around back then, i would have volunteered to join the manhunt. Everything you say is say but very true.
MickyMicky Mike as someone who has gone to many a mental hospitals and worked with mentally I'll people, it's essentially, a feeling that's been pent up and then pops in the form of harming others. It's awful, it's truly disgusting that any human has to have a mental illness, but even worse that some of the victims of their crimes never get release when their culprits aren't found. It's awful. It's disgusting. And that little girl, I'm happy they were caught, I wish they had the death sentence tbh
ım sorry for rikişi