We bought a 2023 Outlander phev in mid April. So far we have been receiving on battery alone between 75 and 98 km per charge and when the engine is running in hybrid mode we are getting 1.8 L to 100 km that is after the battery is completely discharged and the remaining 20% is left in the battery for hybrid use. On the highway driving in normal mode which is hybrid with one pedal driving we are averaging between 5.5 and 6.0 L to 100 km that is driving between 90 km an hour and 100 km an hour.
Definitely. I highly recommend getting the GT premium if you are in Canada or the top of the line if you're in the United States. Simply because of the leather interior and all the bells and whistles are included in the in the car.. the third row is for mostly children it is possible to have an adult same back there but I would recommend it only for children so it gives it does give you a true five passenger 5 adult and two children. My experience of the car is been ideal I'm getting exactly what I said before in both hybrid mode as well as in battery the battery level changes when you charge the car based upon the previous use so if you go easy on the accelerator then the battery charge shows more battery if you're harder on the accelerator the better it charged shows less battery after fully charging it's strange but that's the way it is. For the using the air conditioning heat pump you have noticed that when the battery is fully charged and you press either air conditioning or fan for heat the battery level of the car drops about 6 kilowatt hours it doesn't register on the gauge but it does register in the numbers on the dashboard. I found however that those numbers disappear and you regain them through regenerative braking over the time of the life of the battery charge so you really don't lose any kilowatt hours it just shows an initial drain and that drain is supposed to show over the entire range of the battery charge. The manual is like the Quran or a Bible it's very thick full of lots of information and I highly recommend you spend a whole evening or two or three reading every single page of the manual cover to cover before trying to figure out all of the different actions. On the steering wheel the right hand side has a little colored Circle device that's operates all of your cameras I use that all the time my procedure everyday and using the car is this our first of all started up and then I turned the dial on the console to eco then I press EV mode and then I press one pedal driving mode and then I press the colored circle on the right hand side of the steering wheel not activates everything in the car.. I use the cruise control in the city when I'm driving on a street that has traffic and I can follow at a distance the car keeps me at the distance it's a little slow on acceleration from stop but that's quite all right I can step on the accelerator to speed that up slightly but otherwise I'm very happy with it. The ride is rather firm because of the 20 inch wheels and the low aspect ratio but you get used to that over time and if you're driving on streets that are relatively smooth I don't even comes it won't even come into play. The lack of a spare tire is not really an issue they give you a tire sealant so if there is a flat tire and you call AAA or CAA in Canada they will try to find the place where the nail or the screw went in pull that out and then inflate the tire using the canister of sealant no real need for a spare tire. Be very careful with low aspect ratio tires do not hit a curb with them as they will cause internal damage to the tire and you will lose air pressure and they'll have to be replaced so I highly recommend being careful with hitting curves or coming I'm talking about hitting curves out of 90° angle or driving over driving over a curve at a very slow speed for parking and that kind of thing is not an issue but hitting a curb at at a speed of possibly can 15 km an hour or more is definitely going to damage hello aspect ratio Tire like the ones in the Outlander GT premium or high-end us vehicle. So long and short of it is I would definitely buy the vehicle again I love the car it's wonderful it's it's very fast and it's Graphics it gives you all the information that you need and want all the safety features are there for you. Cheers
As a footnote. I apologize for some of the errors I dictated this and I did not go back and read it prior to sending it as a reply my apologies but you can figure out the the information even through the few mistakes that I made again my apologies if you have any further questions just ask and I'll be glad to answer for you cuz I really like the car and I would buy it again thanks
Ok, my question is this: I drive about 30 to 40 kilometers everyday for work. Is it possible that I can be using the EV mode without buying gas for my daily driving needs which usually does not exceed 50 kilometers per day? Please let me know. If yes, then I'm going to get this car right away. Thanks a lot for the beautiful reviews. I don't know how to say thank you to you guys, but I make sure to watch all the advertising videos to support you guys. Please answer my question. Thank you.
Hello Mr Williams. You can definitely get in excessive 50 km on a charge with this car. I have never received less than 75 and as much as 104 putting 8000 km on the car since I purchased it. It's the best car I've ever owned. I use eco mode EV and one pedal driving mode as well as the advanced cruise control option almost all the time. This particular option does give you full stop and allows you to resume to your previously set cruise control setting following the car ahead of you from a stop. It's a little bit slower than normal acceleration using the advanced cruise control to resume but I find that it really helps save the battery because you're not putting a lot of Demand on moving this heavy car up to speed and taking another second or two to follow the car ahead of you. The car is quiet, smooth on the highway, has a firm ride has a fabulous stereo system and all the bells and whistles you can think of. Even when your battery is depleted which is down to about 20% which is hidden from your gauge the car will still operate on EV mode as you're driving but the engine will start up to give the electric power some assistance so that it never goes below the 20% Which is what can damage the battery by putting more demand stress on it at a lower charge. Even when running out of battery according to the gauge you have 20% of the battery left. You can even charge the battery at idle if you don't have your charging cable with you and it will take 90 minutes to charge up to 80%, and consume approximately 2 L of fuel to do so. Also, on the highway you can select charge and it will also charge the battery as you drive. I recommend not driving over 80 km an hour on electric motor has that does consume the battery a little faster at that point. what I do when I'm approaching 80 km an hour I switch it over to normal mode and leave it on EV and one pedal driving with Advanced cruise control with sabe option and the car will use the engine to assist in charging of the battery and giving you better range. So on highway speeds under a hundred kilometers an hour I would put it into normal mode and save mode as well as EV one pedal driving and that way with the advanced cruise control you get the best for the economy and Battery range out of your car. In 8,000 km of driving since I've owned the car I have used 19.5 KW per 100 km of electricity 1.1 l of fuel per 100 km and all the rest has been battery driving. The other big plus about this car is that it has a heat pump to provide Heating and Cooling which is very efficient as many of the other manufacturers still require the engine to run to provide Heating and Cooling to the passenger compartment . Not the Outlander phev. I highly recommend this car and you can always ask another question of me on this website and I'll answer it to my best of my ability. It costs me about $35 a month on electricity at 12 cents per kilowatt hour to charge the car on a daily basis. No it's costing me about $35 a month to drive when with my previous car it was costing me $400 a month on gasoline. Quite a savings. Mitsubishi says that the warranty for battery replacement would be if the battery degrades too 65%. Quite frankly if a person treats their battery properly and doesn't over stress it you should get well in excess of the battery warranty. With the gradation of no more than about 85%. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to contact me via this website for reply thanks cheers
I got my ES model last Monday and this Monday I did a round trip between Montreal and Quebec City (eco mode,640km, 0 degree, cruising at 105km/h). Ev range was about 66km, dc fast charged to 60% then drive in SAVE model. The fuel economy I got in save model was around 8L/100km.
Est ce que vous pouvez recharger la batterie sur le 110 volts et si oui ça prends combien de temps ? Aussi est ce que la suspension est molle pour avoir un roulement doux sur la route. Merci
@@pierremartineau2834 110v charging is very slow, which takes about 16 hrs from 0 to 100%. But it won't matter if you charge every night at home, an overnight charge will give you enough range for your next day. The suspension is okay, i wouldn't call it soft, but it is very comfortable on the road.
Man I've got questions for you, I put a deposit down a few weeks ago on an ES 😂😂With the temperature dropping recently did you have any issues keeping it in ev mode / range loss and can you preheat while charging so you dont need to turn on the ICE when you start your drive on the Es trim?
It took a little time for me to get used to it’s futuristic look. But I have come around. I finally think that this has become a great looking SUV. It is definitely has a unique look, especially when compared to the rest of the market. You’d be crazy not to check this new Mitsubishi out… if PHEV’s are your thing. Thanks for the video.
Hey guys, was originally dead set on the Sportage Plugin…saw this, went and test drove it. Long story short there’s a 40th Anniversary edition in my driveway. Fantastic reviews, never stop 🤙🏾
I love that the comparison comes up against the rav4 . A vehicle that has a 2-3 year wait, 5 passenger unit as opposed to a 3-12 month wait, 7 passenger and larger warranty ;)
You are going to sell many of the Andreas. Keep pumping out your videos! Nice work. Also, what is the origin of salesman with a sleeve? Thanks from Ontario
@@jamesbertrand8056 Haha Thank you! Its a fun car, so it's really easy to do content on. The origin for the tagline is that back in 2016 when I first started Selling for Mitsubishi Canada, I had to separate myself from the rest of the sales consultants so when I told a client to look for the "consultant with tattoo's" - it evolved to "The Salesman with a Sleeve .. In the summer I don't mind rocking golf shirts, but I really enjoy wearing suits, and the name "Salesman with a sleeve" just stuck.
@Andreas Loerchner where do you sell? GTA? If I book this in this month then how soon can I get the delivery? Any email or contact details will help to buy through you if you are in GTA
@@Salesmanwithasleeve @bibin1716 when you preheat or cool your cabinet before driving is the car using power from the charger to precondition the cabinet as per their claim or is it taking power from the battery? Please let me know
Hi. Can you tell me the experience in your car. What is the number of kms when in ECO EV mode until the car forces to hybrid due to low battery? And the kind of driving you were doing.Also, how many l/100kms when driving in SAVE hybrid mode on the highway? Thanks for your answers in advance.
Having owned a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for about eight years and having just had a third battery installed, I can tell you that in my experience the battery in these cars will drop below 80% capacity in about 3.6 years. If your get a replacement on waranty, well and good, but the replacement cost of my latest battery was, I informed, A$12,000. Although these SUVs are great cars in many ways, I wouldn't buy another until the battery technology has been improved to not drop below 80% within ten years. That will not happen with lithium ion technology.
I am just turning over 10000km on my non PHEV Outlander, and I love the thing! My RDX was stolen, but it had had so many return visits to the dealer in the first 6000km I was glad to see it gone. Everything you has said about the comfort, drive is true. I feel like I’m driving a premium German SUV. I’m sure the PHEV is even nicer with the added thrust. Also, my LE Premium trim has so many features it’s nuts. I drove ALL the competition, and there is no comparison. Great job Mitsubishi!
@@jsfbay1 Upon delivery the sunroof motor was making terrible noise, replaced. About 2 months later I noticed water coming through the overhead console. Seal replaced. The windshield cracked while I was in my driveway sitting in it with the windshield defroster on. Canada… the apple car play drove me nuts. Regularly would not connect, I was told this is normal.. the driver aids- would not work if there was the slightest amount of dirt on the sensor/eye beam. But most annoying was the fuel mileage, I was driving like a senior citizen to try to squeeze out decent range. I am getting better mileage driving my C8 corvette than the RDX. BTW the Mitsubishi is not fast, but great in every other way. Very different animal, but I love it.
Good follow up, I’m at 23000 Km now and absolutely no issues or hiccups. It has been perfect! I love this thing! ( I hated the RDX) BTW the warranty is very comprehensive and long, but so far I don’t expect to use it.@@Mark1Mach2
Thanks for your videos! They really helped me make a well-informed decision. I just took delivery of my 2023 Outlander PHEV GT-Premium in Titanium Grey! LOVE THE CAR SO MUCH!!
We have the 2019-20 model. Use it for school run and shopping to town and back. Approx 30kms. We refueled a month back and are up to 1,800km’s and not used half the tank.
Great review as always! As a fan of PHEV and currently driving a a Sorento PHEV here in the US, I am intrigued by this redesigned PHEV from Mitsubishi. The presence of heat pump, massage seats, rear wheel biased and the capacity to seat 7 people of this car could have prompted me to trade in my Sorento if the US federal tax credits still exist.
I’ve been waiting for this review for a year. Hahaha. Awesome, I agree Andrea, front vented seats would have been icing on the cake. But still a great vehicle.
I test drove one on Saturday and I fell in love. I could not believe how quiet it is and there are so many features to try and learn. It is really going to take some getting use to, but I LOVE it!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I test drove SEL trim and I must say it handles pretty good with very nice features. Few things I did not love is slow level 2 charger, depleted battery range and few other small things. Feature wise the top trim looks very close to my Lexus NX 450h. In fact if I did not have my NX, I would go for this Outlander. The only thing is not clear to me, you were saying HV mode gives around 6.5l/100km. At the same time official number with depleted battery is 9l/100km. Isn’t it the car is switching to HV mode after EV battery is depleted? In my NX once I run out of EV mode battery range the vehicle is switching to HV mode with about 30% battery charge remaining. The car does not let you use the bottom 30% battery for pure EV. PS. One pedal driving was also in Chevy Volt when shifted into L. I have used it in heavy traffic. Of course Chevy Volt is not produced anymore.
Excellent Review, as always!!! Thank you for explaining how preconditioning works while the vehicle is still plugged into the grid (Our local dealer sale guy didn't know that answer, not to mention the meaning of "preconditioning the cabin":)! The real-world hybrid mode consumption under official numbers makes more sense in a combined driving cycle.
I love everything about this car! Little story happened to me yesterday, my family went out to dinner with my brother family and my brother asked me if i can take one of his kid with me in my car, i have a 2018 rogue with 2 car seats and couldn't fit any of my brother kid. Even if the 3rd row in the Mitsu outlander is not for all ages, size, having the outlander and the 3rd row option i would have been able to help by taking 2 kids with me. I think a lot of people see black or white only and not all the possibilities. Well done Mitsubishi!
@@akhere07 yeah. $5000 from Canada and $5000 from Quebec. A full EV like a Leaf qualifies for an extra $2000 from Quebec for a total of $12000. An Escape PHEV only qualifies for a total of $7500 (probably because the battery is smaller)
Dealer in Edmonton had marked up the GT model by 20k, and was up by $15k after the fed gov rebate, a simple calculation of savings will be able to clarify that no one will ever be able to recover the premium paid. As usual people are being gouged to go green, not really a green solution.
This is made in Japan and uses a reliable, non-turbo 2.4L 4 cylinder instead of the Rogue's new, complicated, and untested 3 cylinder. This might be a good choice over a RAV4 or CRV.
The main reasons for people buying PHEV are to save gas cost and environment but these are far from the goals with the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV: 1. The basic trim PHEV MSRP costs C$14,000 more than the gasoline counterpart. 2. The combined fuel mileage is 9 for the PHEV and 8.9 L/100 km for the gasoline model if you deplete the battery. PHEV is much worse for highway driving at 8.7 vs. 7.9 L/100 km. 3. The battery driven efficiency is merely 2 mile/kWh or half of typical full electric SUVs like Tesla Y. 4. Using a typical electricity rate of 15c/kWh nowadays and a charge loss of 10%, each full charge of 20 kWh battery costs C$3.30 for about 38 mile or 60 km range. The equivalent cost for the gasoline model to drive the same distance at C$1.30/L of gas is C$6.94. Assuming a typical driving distance of 10,000 mi/yr and half of it is on pure EV mode, one would save only C$480/yr after deducting the slightly worse gas mileage for the PHEV. Assuming battery never needs replacement and no additional maintenance costs (one comment below showed his battery needs to be replaced 3 times in 10 years of ownership), it’ll take 29 yrs to pay out the additional $14,000 upfront investment not accounting for interest rate charge. Even if you factor in the silly Canadian government incentive of C$5,000, it’ll still take 18.75 yr to pay out. 5. Full cycle charging and discharging EV battery is detrimental to battery health. This is evident from many EV owners who only charge to 80% and discharging to 20% for battery longevity. For the owner wanting to drive the PHEV on a daily basis, one should expect battery life expectancy to decrease to about 15% of an equivalent full EV since you’ll be doing about 7 times more full cycle charging and discharging. I don’t know the exact cost of replacing the new Outlander’s 20 kWh battery but it should be easily north of C$5,000. 6. PHEV weighs 305 kg more than the gasoline model or like carrying 4 full size adults all the time. The additional weight must have adverse effect on the tire and suspension longevity. 7. It’s really irritating having to plug in and unplug the car every time you use the vehicle based on my 30 days rental experience of the vehicle assuming you have access to an electric outlet. 8. Comparing to full electric or ICE cars, PHEV with both components is likely doubling the cost of maintenance not to mention the impact of environment with EV batteries, etc.
Hi folks, I really enjoy your channel, but forgive me for pointing out 3 things re: the Mitsu PHEV that I recently learned, First, it has a 1 speed tranny, which compromises the hybrid only combined mpg (only 26, 10 less than the Rev Prime PHEV) Second, although fairly seamless, it constantly switches back and forth between electric only, ice to drivetrain, and ice as generator. and third, when using region braking, the brake pedal depresses on it own, which can be disconcerting.
Yes, I agree, Mitsubishi has done such a great job on this plug-in hybrid. We have definitely had more snow than expected this year but it sure is pretty and the Outlander is very capable in conditions like this.
My question is who leaves a huge pile of leaves on the street you had to drive around :) Also I like the styling and think the hybrid is the best option right now over pure EV.
In the Fall the city picks up leaves free of charge (3 times usually) from property owners. All owners need do is take the leaves of the property to the grass verge next to the curb or tightly against the curb for vacuum pick up. The video shot is a property owner being careless.
Hi Andrea and Zack, following your review of the Outlander PHEV, i found it strange that when the battery is depleated you only get 9L/100km on hybrid mode. Did i miss something. Also what is the reliability of that vehicule on a 10 years basis. Thanks and keep the good work. Pierre
I also find it strange that the fuel consumption is 9L/100km on hybrid mode. I would think 9L/100km would be on the gas ONLY (with 0 battery or in SAVE/CHARGE mode). If it's really 9L/100km on hybrid mode, that mean the PHEV is has efficient has the gas model? We know that the PHEV is 405 kg heavier than the gas model. 🤔
One of the reasons Renault/Nissan alliance's purchase of Mitsubishi is because of their PHEV technology, the other is they are hugely successful in 3rd world market on affordable small cars.
Ok excellent! it’s not just me😂 It truly drives like an EV, so quiet, and smooth! I loved it, and was surprised by the handling, comfort and performance feel. It’s comforting to hear the “A Team’s” impressions supporting my own! Initially, I had to fight a few internal demons with the front end styling, but like Zach, it has grown on me to the point that I now really like overall design period! In the line up for a few months now for a GT or GT-P. Bring it on Mitsubishi Canada. 🇨🇦🇯🇵I’ll take a White Diamond with Light Grey please! Thank you for your efforts and best to you both and your family for the Holidays🎄
I regularly get 90 km from a charge driving 50/50 urban/highway, have used 25l of fuel after 2600 km ,I only use recharge when going up hill,get 10 km charge going down hill,I charge at home at around 3$ a charge, which won't be an issue, when I get solar battery back up.
Really at the 50:50 mark between the Outlander and the Sportage. Living in a cold climate I think I may sway to the Outlander after this video. We're ordering one or the other in a month... Decisions decisions!?!?!?!
It certainly helps to have a heat pump but after speaking to a few engineers, a heat pump can only do so much once it gets really cold, so it depends where you live. In Vancouver, a heat pump would be beneficial to us because we are not dealing with really cold conditions like -25. At that point, a heat pump isn't going to do much for you, it's too cold.
I drive a PHEV without a heat pump and though most people only think about pure heat but it's also useful to stop the engine running in cool rain or fog when the humidity would fog up your windows. That will make it very useful through spring and fall to use less gas overall. As far as I know even the Outlander heat pump doesn't work below freezing, but I haven't confirmed if they changed that for Canadian climates.
@@Snerdles I live where temps are -10 f (-23c) at the lowest and from about mid November to mid February are averaging around 15-35 f (-10 -to 2 c) The vehicle would also be stored inside at around 50 f (10c) On an opposite note what about A/C? I also live in a place (northern part of Utah (Perry)) that experiences significant heat. We had 37 days where the temps were above 100 (38c) f this year. These PHEV's would have to run the gas engine to produce air conditioning right? I know heat and cold are these Lithium batteries enemies which also makes me hesitant with these cars. But you see them in all climates so there must be some mitigations going on with the manufactures that aren't totally known by the public. Thanks to you and Andrea for the comments !!
@@TracySwenson No, whether a heat pump or regular AC system they will both run without the gas engine for cooling the cabin since the compressor runs on electricity. Also, in my vehicle even when you need heat the EV mode still drives the car but the engine just stays idling, even when accelerating. If the battery gets really cold in mine (like parked outside in -15C or colder) then it drives with the engine like a normal car until the battery warms up since using and charging batteries when they are that cold can damage them.
Love the review. this is a great SUV and my wife loves it. You said last night on the show you will be doing some travelling and please travel safe. Have a great family Christmas and relax eat and drink. Look forward to the Sunday night show in the new year. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Mitsubishi has done a great job on this vehicle. I would prefer a 2 row option as the 3rd row seems wasted space better utilized by cargo room. Still a lot of great features. I struggle with the economics of the PHEVs. Even with rebate they are still $6000 to $8000 more than an equivalently powered gas model. If the average person travels 20,000 km per year and we will be generous and say they will save 3 L/100 km or 600 L. Using $2/L then optimistically you save $1200 per year. It would take 5 to almost 7 years to break even. Fewer kilometres or smaller gas savings would extend the time. As technology improves I am sure the economics will improve, but for now it appears the economical choice is to stay with a gas only model
You could also save $3000 with 24000km a year if majority of your driving is under 80km at 10 cents KW/H. As people have safely demonstrated they were easily able to attain 80-100km with mainly home charging but that's if it was charged to 100%. Or we use Canada's (Americas figures just in metric) at 61km mark and you'd still save about $2800. In Ontario people would charge over night and that's about 7 cents a KW/H.
I agree that 3rd row option should be deletable by maker. Alex on Autos TH-cam reviewer suggests some owners may unbolt the third row (then stuck with storing it somewhere). He also says he wish Mitsu had designed release levers for easier 3rd row removal.
I have the '21, installed a high speed charger, I plug it in as soon as I'm parked at home, now that the temperatures are rising I drove 684 miles on 7.2 gals (91 mpg). Love the car, rides great.
Living in the deep south vented seats are a must. Don't see anywhere on Mitsubishi's website where you can add that feature. I'd give up the massage seats for venting.
3.3 kw charger is silly in 2022. Surprised it was not one of the items you guys didn't like. My 2018 volt was 7.7. Our bolt is 11.5. was excited for this model until I saw the charging speed. If they bumped it to 7 kw I'd consider it. Wanted a phev to supplement our Bolt for longer trips .
Will auto manufacturers continue supporting vehicles with this technology post 2035? Seem like hybrids and PHEVs are on borrowed time with the ban on gasoline and diesel powered cars not so far away. That said, this appears to be a good transition to electrification and Mitsubishi has a good product with this.
the model 2022 had the issue and the dealers now fix the hood for free. All new model so most of 2023, the flutter issue is fixed and the cars are delivered without any old known problem
*** DISCLAIMER NEEDED ***. Love all these ev and PHEV reviews however, it needs to be said in each video at the beginning EV AND PHEV are 2-5 years of wait lists and likely dealer markup of 5k! It’s impossible to obtain any of these ev or PHEV without a lot of work or knowing a dealership owner.
Mitsubishi has inventory, a viewer just bought one and he had a 4 week wait. From what I have heard the top GT model is the most popular so the wait time is longer for it but lower trim models are available sooner. Of course, it depends on the dealership and how much inventory it is getting in. Another viewer said, he ordered a GT model but an SEL came in so he took it, he waited only 2 weeks.
@@andreaspencer9813 Thanks Andrea! I think those are few and far between scenarios. Telsa is 8-12 months, GM is 8-24 months, Kia is 12-24+ months, Toyota is 6-12months, polstar is 6 months, genesis is 12 months etc etc. I called 3 Mitsubishi dealerships in Vancouver a month ago about this PHEV and all said wait list , $500 deposit and might see it 12 months from now. This same scenario is echoed with all major brands selling ev/phev. With global supply chain issues and ev battery constraints it would just be nice to have transparency when the reviews come out that you can’t just go down to the dealership and buy one in a reasonable amount of time. It’s MUCH easier to buy an ICE vehicle right now the wait times are 90 days in some cases.
@@westcoastY2K Yes, I agree the wait time for a hybrid or PHEV now is insane. The fact that Mitsubishi has some inventory is not the norm of course and it depends what dealership you are dealing with. Some get more inventory than others. I hear even gas models have a long wait time.
@@andreaspencer9813 I got fed up with the frustration of trying to move into a phev/hybrid/ev in recent months. I just put in an order for a 2023 Mazda cx-30 turbo. It should be here by march 2023 or sooner. I think that’s acceptable 😁. Also, thanks for the AMAZING review on the cx-30 Turbo definitely helped the decision making easier. Much appreciated- keep up the amazing dynamic you and Zack have…although he’s interrupting you more often lately 😅
BC purchaser here. Made a deposit on the Outlander PHEV GT trim in July. Was just notified I can have an SEL this month. If I want a GT it will be many more months. Price is MSRP plus paint option, freight and PDI, doc fee, tire levy etc., and taxes. In other words, normal price in a seller's market. A different dealer in Vancouver tried to charge me an additional $4k disguised in the usual smarmy but transparent fashion.
The Korean vehicles are also skimping on Engine size to reduce weight but charge the same or more. I looked at this vehicle when I recently switched my vehicle but couldn't digest the "futuristic" looks, but otherwise felt it's loaded with tons of features. LOL! I personally think Rav4 is the best of the bunch overall. Kia looks good for couple of days but feels boring really fast.
guys I'm ordering this car - interestingly while GAC China is stopping production, could manage to find one from China for a good price - but that has 48V Mild Hybrid.... thanks guys.
for those in much colder climates who usually need a block heater for their ICE engine - does plugging this in keep the ICE engine warm, or do you need an additional block heater for that? thanks!
I’ve got the top of the range petrol Outlander which I love. I love the idea of the PHEV but I average 7.2 km per 100 now. I don’t get how the electric version would average 6.2!? Especially if you plug it in overnight. Add in the price premium and eventual battery replacement at say 10 years, it doesn’t make financial sense to me.
2018-2020 models are so damn cheap even with low kms. I just found a 2019 with 60,000 kms for $34,000 Canadian. The cheapest I found was $25,000 Canadian. Save some money and buy one used. My father in law, when he retired in 2020 purchased a fully loaded 2018 outlander PHEV from his former boss had and it only had 25,000 kms when he sold it to my father in law for $30,000. My in laws love it for how much they run on electric power and how less gas they use. I told them yesterday I might consider getting a second generation outlander PHEV when my 2011 Mazda CX-7 dies in about five years or so. Of course the nearest mitsushitty dealership is an hour away from me, so I might go with a Toyota PHEV.
Won’t damage it but you’ll be paying a huge premium for it over the gas version for no reason. If you can’t plug it in you might as well get the gas-only.
Great review. You guys are the best . Unfortunately I am not a fan of this design especially the front. All the best to those who like this style of Suv.
Questions... This car has 20 KW battery and EPA number of 38 miles. And I understand the engine would come in anytime in both NORMAL mode and EV mode depending condition unlike other PHEV such as VOLT or RAV which stay in battery powered mode all the way until the total depletion of the battery. That means the total miles this car would yield at the end of depletion of 20 kw battery should be higher than the EPA's 38 number since engine would burn gas here and there to supplement the battery use... Have you figured out the typical actual miles one could expect at the end of day with the depletion fully charged battery in NORMAL or EV mode?
I think in ev mode the engine would only come on for heat 🤔, in my 2018 volt the engine also comes on to heat the car when cold enough which I set a delay to -10c factory settings it came on a 0c. The cars ev range does not drop when the engine is running for heat. So that does not change.
At the price point including the the provincial & federal GV rebates, this is a valid bargain. One little thing setting this apart are the peasant blockers in the top trim vehicle used in the review coupled with the quilted leatherette upholstery puts it right along premium brands, without the insurance of those premium brands. Another request, please include average yearly maintenance costs (atleast for consumables minus the labour) on this PHEV.
Wow! Great review! Love this vehicle other than the front end. I wish they could clean it up a bit but I guess it's a personal opinion. But my big question is - what's with the 8 ft pile of leaves on the road!!!! How does that happen!! Lol
@@andreaspencer9813 Thanks for the response. I assume Mitsubishi have a very small market share in North America. Do you ever see them taking the same route that Suzuki did in 2013? That is announcing out of the blue that they are pulling up stakes and abandoning the NA market. I hope it never happens but with small numbers, I guess it could happen. Look at Suzuki.
dc charging connector is outdated, specific to only nissan and mitsu cars. availability and access to the charges supporting this connection will become challenging in no time
I test drove a '23 Outlander PHEV GT today, and the engine never kicked on during my 15 minute in-town drive. It was 6 deg. C (42 F.) here today and the car provided almost instant cabin heat (the vehicle was cold/hadn't been driven today before I arrived at the dealership). I also had the seat heater and steering wheel heater on. The Outlander PHEV is extremely quiet in pure EV mode and overall the vehicle feels very up-level.
@@richardb9591 great info! I have a Santa Fe PHEV and the engine kicks in for heat. I love PHEVs but I would never buy/upgrade unless it has a heat pump.
Seems like a great option,I just wish info center wasn't so intrusive. I would of liked it to be more luxurious look to it like the Mercedes-Benz EV. But overall all nice option.
Does the SE phev outlander 2023 has level 3 dc fast charging? At what speed in mph before the ice engine kicks in? Pls answer as I’m about to buy this soon.
The feature when the gas engine cut in to generate and add more power to the the electric motor: Do you know at what speed the gas engine only take charge? Thanks
How cold will the heat pump work in Canada? Is it a cold climate heat pump that will work down to -15C or less or does it still rely on engine heat when it gets below freezing?
We go to so many different launches and have the opportunity to get in front of the manufacturers, so I always ask them about the heat pump and how efficient it is in colder temperatures. Some say the heat pump is only good to about -5C, once it gets colder than that they aren't very efficient. For us in Vancouver, a heat pump is beneficial but for other provinces where it gets down to -25C, not sure how great one would be.
Why only 1500lb of towing? All the other PHEV's I'm looking at can do 2000lb+. If I didn't want the option to do a little towing I'd happily just get an EV. Disappointing as I've been hanging on for the release of the Outlander PHEV. Back to looking at my other options for now.
6 to 8 liters but does it calculate from a full battery to drive hybrid? With my Clarity I get 5.5 liters on hybrid only but if I do a the average on battery and hybrid I am around 2.5l but I drain the battery often on long road trip
@@hoyhoy1605 is this an average tho? If you dive with an empty battery what is the average? I don’t think this SUV gets better mileage than my car which is a PHEV. Thank you
I own a Outlander phev for 8years, no battery replacement yet 💪.
Quality car. 👍
We bought a 2023 Outlander phev in mid April. So far we have been receiving on battery alone between 75 and 98 km per charge and when the engine is running in hybrid mode we are getting 1.8 L to 100 km that is after the battery is completely discharged and the remaining 20% is left in the battery for hybrid use. On the highway driving in normal mode which is hybrid with one pedal driving we are averaging between 5.5 and 6.0 L to 100 km that is driving between 90 km an hour and 100 km an hour.
Are you still happy with your PHEV after probably 2 months? I'm going to get mine soon.
Definitely. I highly recommend getting the GT premium if you are in Canada or the top of the line if you're in the United States. Simply because of the leather interior and all the bells and whistles are included in the in the car.. the third row is for mostly children it is possible to have an adult same back there but I would recommend it only for children so it gives it does give you a true five passenger 5 adult and two children. My experience of the car is been ideal I'm getting exactly what I said before in both hybrid mode as well as in battery the battery level changes when you charge the car based upon the previous use so if you go easy on the accelerator then the battery charge shows more battery if you're harder on the accelerator the better it charged shows less battery after fully charging it's strange but that's the way it is. For the using the air conditioning heat pump you have noticed that when the battery is fully charged and you press either air conditioning or fan for heat the battery level of the car drops about 6 kilowatt hours it doesn't register on the gauge but it does register in the numbers on the dashboard. I found however that those numbers disappear and you regain them through regenerative braking over the time of the life of the battery charge so you really don't lose any kilowatt hours it just shows an initial drain and that drain is supposed to show over the entire range of the battery charge. The manual is like the Quran or a Bible it's very thick full of lots of information and I highly recommend you spend a whole evening or two or three reading every single page of the manual cover to cover before trying to figure out all of the different actions. On the steering wheel the right hand side has a little colored Circle device that's operates all of your cameras I use that all the time my procedure everyday and using the car is this our first of all started up and then I turned the dial on the console to eco then I press EV mode and then I press one pedal driving mode and then I press the colored circle on the right hand side of the steering wheel not activates everything in the car.. I use the cruise control in the city when I'm driving on a street that has traffic and I can follow at a distance the car keeps me at the distance it's a little slow on acceleration from stop but that's quite all right I can step on the accelerator to speed that up slightly but otherwise I'm very happy with it. The ride is rather firm because of the 20 inch wheels and the low aspect ratio but you get used to that over time and if you're driving on streets that are relatively smooth I don't even comes it won't even come into play. The lack of a spare tire is not really an issue they give you a tire sealant so if there is a flat tire and you call AAA or CAA in Canada they will try to find the place where the nail or the screw went in pull that out and then inflate the tire using the canister of sealant no real need for a spare tire. Be very careful with low aspect ratio tires do not hit a curb with them as they will cause internal damage to the tire and you will lose air pressure and they'll have to be replaced so I highly recommend being careful with hitting curves or coming I'm talking about hitting curves out of 90° angle or driving over driving over a curve at a very slow speed for parking and that kind of thing is not an issue but hitting a curb at at a speed of possibly can 15 km an hour or more is definitely going to damage hello aspect ratio Tire like the ones in the Outlander GT premium or high-end us vehicle. So long and short of it is I would definitely buy the vehicle again I love the car it's wonderful it's it's very fast and it's Graphics it gives you all the information that you need and want all the safety features are there for you. Cheers
As a footnote. I apologize for some of the errors I dictated this and I did not go back and read it prior to sending it as a reply my apologies but you can figure out the the information even through the few mistakes that I made again my apologies if you have any further questions just ask and I'll be glad to answer for you cuz I really like the car and I would buy it again thanks
Ok, my question is this: I drive about 30 to 40 kilometers everyday for work. Is it possible that I can be using the EV mode without buying gas for my daily driving needs which usually does not exceed 50 kilometers per day? Please let me know. If yes, then I'm going to get this car right away. Thanks a lot for the beautiful reviews. I don't know how to say thank you to you guys, but I make sure to watch all the advertising videos to support you guys. Please answer my question. Thank you.
Hello Mr Williams. You can definitely get in excessive 50 km on a charge with this car. I have never received less than 75 and as much as 104 putting 8000 km on the car since I purchased it. It's the best car I've ever owned. I use eco mode EV and one pedal driving mode as well as the advanced cruise control option almost all the time. This particular option does give you full stop and allows you to resume to your previously set cruise control setting following the car ahead of you from a stop. It's a little bit slower than normal acceleration using the advanced cruise control to resume but I find that it really helps save the battery because you're not putting a lot of Demand on moving this heavy car up to speed and taking another second or two to follow the car ahead of you. The car is quiet, smooth on the highway, has a firm ride has a fabulous stereo system and all the bells and whistles you can think of. Even when your battery is depleted which is down to about 20% which is hidden from your gauge the car will still operate on EV mode as you're driving but the engine will start up to give the electric power some assistance so that it never goes below the 20% Which is what can damage the battery by putting more demand stress on it at a lower charge. Even when running out of battery according to the gauge you have 20% of the battery left. You can even charge the battery at idle if you don't have your charging cable with you and it will take 90 minutes to charge up to 80%, and consume approximately 2 L of fuel to do so. Also, on the highway you can select charge and it will also charge the battery as you drive. I recommend not driving over 80 km an hour on electric motor has that does consume the battery a little faster at that point. what I do when I'm approaching 80 km an hour I switch it over to normal mode and leave it on EV and one pedal driving with Advanced cruise control with sabe option and the car will use the engine to assist in charging of the battery and giving you better range. So on highway speeds under a hundred kilometers an hour I would put it into normal mode and save mode as well as EV one pedal driving and that way with the advanced cruise control you get the best for the economy and Battery range out of your car. In 8,000 km of driving since I've owned the car I have used 19.5 KW per 100 km of electricity 1.1 l of fuel per 100 km and all the rest has been battery driving. The other big plus about this car is that it has a heat pump to provide Heating and Cooling which is very efficient as many of the other manufacturers still require the engine to run to provide Heating and Cooling to the passenger compartment . Not the Outlander phev. I highly recommend this car and you can always ask another question of me on this website and I'll answer it to my best of my ability. It costs me about $35 a month on electricity at 12 cents per kilowatt hour to charge the car on a daily basis. No it's costing me about $35 a month to drive when with my previous car it was costing me $400 a month on gasoline. Quite a savings. Mitsubishi says that the warranty for battery replacement would be if the battery degrades too 65%. Quite frankly if a person treats their battery properly and doesn't over stress it you should get well in excess of the battery warranty. With the gradation of no more than about 85%. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to contact me via this website for reply thanks cheers
nice job Mitsubishi!!!! we bought 2 of these and LOVE them!!! 20,000 miles and NO issues....bravo
I’m headed to the local Mitsubishi dealer as we speak. Such a beautiful vehicle, thanks Motormouth for another amazing review.
Really? 7am on a Monday?
@@clearcut6818 maybe it takes him two hours to get there lol
@@clearcut6818 no, not literally. just a saying - although I do have an appointment with my local dealer next week.
@First Last Outside of Alberta, the markups have been minimal, if any.
@First Last Where are you located?
I got my ES model last Monday and this Monday I did a round trip between Montreal and Quebec City (eco mode,640km, 0 degree, cruising at 105km/h). Ev range was about 66km, dc fast charged to 60% then drive in SAVE model. The fuel economy I got in save model was around 8L/100km.
Thanks for sharing this information!
Est ce que vous pouvez recharger la batterie sur le 110 volts et si oui ça prends combien de temps ? Aussi est ce que la suspension est molle pour avoir un roulement doux sur la route. Merci
@@pierremartineau2834 110v charging is very slow, which takes about 16 hrs from 0 to 100%. But it won't matter if you charge every night at home, an overnight charge will give you enough range for your next day. The suspension is okay, i wouldn't call it soft, but it is very comfortable on the road.
@@SG-ul3fw ok thanks
Man I've got questions for you, I put a deposit down a few weeks ago on an ES 😂😂With the temperature dropping recently did you have any issues keeping it in ev mode / range loss and can you preheat while charging so you dont need to turn on the ICE when you start your drive on the Es trim?
It took a little time for me to get used to it’s futuristic look. But I have come around. I finally think that this has become a great looking SUV. It is definitely has a unique look, especially when compared to the rest of the market. You’d be crazy not to check this new Mitsubishi out… if PHEV’s are your thing. Thanks for the video.
Couldn't agree more!
Hey guys, was originally dead set on the Sportage Plugin…saw this, went and test drove it. Long story short there’s a 40th Anniversary edition in my driveway.
Fantastic reviews, never stop 🤙🏾
Are you still happy with it?
Extremely
I love that the comparison comes up against the rav4 . A vehicle that has a 2-3 year wait, 5 passenger unit as opposed to a 3-12 month wait, 7 passenger and larger warranty ;)
You are going to sell many of the Andreas. Keep pumping out your videos! Nice work. Also, what is the origin of salesman with a sleeve? Thanks from Ontario
@@jamesbertrand8056 Haha Thank you! Its a fun car, so it's really easy to do content on. The origin for the tagline is that back in 2016 when I first started Selling for Mitsubishi Canada, I had to separate myself from the rest of the sales consultants so when I told a client to look for the "consultant with tattoo's" - it evolved to "The Salesman with a Sleeve .. In the summer I don't mind rocking golf shirts, but I really enjoy wearing suits, and the name "Salesman with a sleeve" just stuck.
@Andreas Loerchner where do you sell?
GTA?
If I book this in this month then how soon can I get the delivery?
Any email or contact details will help to buy through you if you are in GTA
@@akhere07 I'm in Beautiful Kelowna, BC - I don't know anyone in GTA that I could recommend though :( - Just head office ;)
@@Salesmanwithasleeve @bibin1716 when you preheat or cool your cabinet before driving is the car using power from the charger to precondition the cabinet as per their claim or is it taking power from the battery? Please let me know
Picked ours up yesterday. Lots of fun and lots to learn
Hi. Can you tell me the experience in your car. What is the number of kms when in ECO EV mode until the car forces to hybrid due to low battery? And the kind of driving you were doing.Also, how many l/100kms when driving in SAVE hybrid mode on the highway? Thanks for your answers in advance.
This the best car out there. I own the gasoline version and I love every bit of it
Having owned a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for about eight years and having just had a third battery installed, I can tell you that in my experience the battery in these cars will drop below 80% capacity in about 3.6 years. If your get a replacement on waranty, well and good, but the replacement cost of my latest battery was, I informed, A$12,000. Although these SUVs are great cars in many ways, I wouldn't buy another until the battery technology has been improved to not drop below 80% within ten years. That will not happen with lithium ion technology.
Wait I just assumed that these would use liFePo4 batteries that can be charged daily and not degrade for 10 years.
But by definition you were driving an older battery.
I own a Outlander phev for 8years, no battery replacement yet 💪.
Quality car. 👍
This isn’t the same battery in your 8yr old car. Lots of improvements and advances since then.
Lies
I am just turning over 10000km on my non PHEV Outlander, and I love the thing! My RDX was stolen, but it had had so many return visits to the dealer in the first 6000km I was glad to see it gone. Everything you has said about the comfort, drive is true. I feel like I’m driving a premium German SUV. I’m sure the PHEV is even nicer with the added thrust. Also, my LE Premium trim has so many features it’s nuts. I drove ALL the competition, and there is no comparison. Great job Mitsubishi!
What sort of issues were you seeing with the RDX? I'm interested because I'm considering it. Thanks.
@@jsfbay1 Upon delivery the sunroof motor was making terrible noise, replaced. About 2 months later I noticed water coming through the overhead console. Seal replaced. The windshield cracked while I was in my driveway sitting in it with the windshield defroster on. Canada… the apple car play drove me nuts. Regularly would not connect, I was told this is normal.. the driver aids- would not work if there was the slightest amount of dirt on the sensor/eye beam.
But most annoying was the fuel mileage, I was driving like a senior citizen to try to squeeze out decent range. I am getting better mileage driving my C8 corvette than the RDX. BTW the Mitsubishi is not fast, but great in every other way. Very different animal, but I love it.
The Mitsubishi was 10k less and has many, many more features. I have the LE Premium.
Thank you for sharing. What about the reliability of these cars, Mitsubishi doesn't have that good of a rep.
Good follow up, I’m at 23000 Km now and absolutely no issues or hiccups. It has been perfect! I love this thing! ( I hated the RDX) BTW the warranty is very comprehensive and long, but so far I don’t expect to use it.@@Mark1Mach2
Thanks for your videos! They really helped me make a well-informed decision. I just took delivery of my 2023 Outlander PHEV GT-Premium in Titanium Grey! LOVE THE CAR SO MUCH!!
Wow, congratulations, enjoy it, you have a great vehicle.
Congrats Chris! What dealer?
@@teddybear894 Oakville Mitsubishi!
@@teddybear894 and thank you!!
What do you think of the massaging seats? Worth the extra money over the GT?
We have the 2019-20 model. Use it for school run and shopping to town and back. Approx 30kms. We refueled a month back and are up to 1,800km’s and not used half the tank.
Great review as always! As a fan of PHEV and currently driving a a Sorento PHEV here in the US, I am intrigued by this redesigned PHEV from Mitsubishi. The presence of heat pump, massage seats, rear wheel biased and the capacity to seat 7 people of this car could have prompted me to trade in my Sorento if the US federal tax credits still exist.
I'm so in love with this thing, as always great review Motormouth.
Thank you, really glad you enjoyed the review, we are really impressed with it.
I’ve been waiting for this review for a year. Hahaha. Awesome, I agree Andrea, front vented seats would have been icing on the cake. But still a great vehicle.
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!
I test drove one on Saturday and I fell in love. I could not believe how quiet it is and there are so many features to try and learn. It is really going to take some getting use to, but I LOVE it!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I test drove SEL trim and I must say it handles pretty good with very nice features. Few things I did not love is slow level 2 charger, depleted battery range and few other small things. Feature wise the top trim looks very close to my Lexus NX 450h.
In fact if I did not have my NX, I would go for this Outlander.
The only thing is not clear to me, you were saying HV mode gives around 6.5l/100km. At the same time official number with depleted battery is 9l/100km. Isn’t it the car is switching to HV mode after EV battery is depleted? In my NX once I run out of EV mode battery range the vehicle is switching to HV mode with about 30% battery charge remaining. The car does not let you use the bottom 30% battery for pure EV.
PS. One pedal driving was also in Chevy Volt when shifted into L. I have used it in heavy traffic. Of course Chevy Volt is not produced anymore.
Lack of V6 version is a deal breaker for me.
It's my favorite PHEV as well! This beats the RAV4 PRIME and the Kia Sorento PHEV, as well as the Hyundai Santa FE PHEV for me.
Mitsubishi has done such a great job with this.
Same here. I got rid of the faulty Santa Fe PHEV and switched to this. Can't wait to try it out when my ordered one arrives in late January.
@@dklyt2358 What sort of issues were you having with the Santa Fe PHEV? That *was* on my list, but maybe not!
Excellent Review, as always!!! Thank you for explaining how preconditioning works while the vehicle is still plugged into the grid (Our local dealer sale guy didn't know that answer, not to mention the meaning of "preconditioning the cabin":)! The real-world hybrid mode consumption under official numbers makes more sense in a combined driving cycle.
Thank you very much, really glad you enjoyed it!
Best review of this phev I’ve seen. Thanks.
I own the 2018 first gen and I am in love with it, best vehicle I've ever owned, I think my only upgrade would be to this model
First time I've watched your video.
Very detailed.
I ordered toyota sieanna in January 2022. But no updates yet.
I would have outlander phev now
Good job Mits! good Job. Glad to see they got a good product that truly competes.
They certainly did, it's such a great PHEV option.
Too soon say for me, but I just leased one. Thus far, very pleased and impressed.
I love everything about this car! Little story happened to me yesterday, my family went out to dinner with my brother family and my brother asked me if i can take one of his kid with me in my car, i have a 2018 rogue with 2 car seats and couldn't fit any of my brother kid. Even if the 3rd row in the Mitsu outlander is not for all ages, size, having the outlander and the 3rd row option i would have been able to help by taking 2 kids with me. I think a lot of people see black or white only and not all the possibilities. Well done Mitsubishi!
So you will but a car for to take a couple extra kids every year or 2?
@@travis8665 i would not buy a car for that, but in comparison to my rogue for the same price range, its just a handy bonus.
@@saiya25 But remember, at the cost of 3rd row seating, we are losing the spare wheel. Which means lot of trouble when tire goes flat...
Two most on point reviewers
Thank you very much!
Getting mine delivered this week or next. Quebec so about $10000 in rebates. This video helped really make the choice.
Rebate for PHEV? Really?
@@akhere07 yeah. $5000 from Canada and $5000 from Quebec. A full EV like a Leaf qualifies for an extra $2000 from Quebec for a total of $12000. An Escape PHEV only qualifies for a total of $7500 (probably because the battery is smaller)
How's your PHEV? Are you happy with it?
Outlander was a serious family contender for us. We ended up taking cx50 just because of the front look on the outlander.
Dealer in Edmonton had marked up the GT model by 20k, and was up by $15k after the fed gov rebate, a simple calculation of savings will be able to clarify that no one will ever be able to recover the premium paid. As usual people are being gouged to go green, not really a green solution.
This is made in Japan and uses a reliable, non-turbo 2.4L 4 cylinder instead of the Rogue's new, complicated, and untested 3 cylinder. This might be a good choice over a RAV4 or CRV.
This looks a hefty yet ultra cool looking electrified car Andrea. Comes packed with extras and super exteria and interia styling!
We are really impressed with this one!
'I really love you guysEvery time you make car review it's perfect and encouraging.
Great review. I got mine today and already love it! Still getting used to all the features😂 there are alot of them😅
Wow, one of the best vehicle review ever. Great details and very clear information. great work.
Much appreciated!
I like the look! Has hints of Range Rover in the exterior design. Excellent review!
Wow. I’m sold.
It is such a great plug-in hybrid!
Great review. Always follow your reviews. I ended up buying the SEL model in Red. Love it.
The main reasons for people buying PHEV are to save gas cost and environment but these are far from the goals with the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV:
1. The basic trim PHEV MSRP costs C$14,000 more than the gasoline counterpart.
2. The combined fuel mileage is 9 for the PHEV and 8.9 L/100 km for the gasoline model if you deplete the battery. PHEV is much worse for highway driving at 8.7 vs. 7.9 L/100 km.
3. The battery driven efficiency is merely 2 mile/kWh or half of typical full electric SUVs like Tesla Y.
4. Using a typical electricity rate of 15c/kWh nowadays and a charge loss of 10%, each full charge of 20 kWh battery costs C$3.30 for about 38 mile or 60 km range. The equivalent cost for the gasoline model to drive the same distance at C$1.30/L of gas is C$6.94. Assuming a typical driving distance of 10,000 mi/yr and half of it is on pure EV mode, one would save only C$480/yr after deducting the slightly worse gas mileage for the PHEV. Assuming battery never needs replacement and no additional maintenance costs (one comment below showed his battery needs to be replaced 3 times in 10 years of ownership), it’ll take 29 yrs to pay out the additional $14,000 upfront investment not accounting for interest rate charge. Even if you factor in the silly Canadian government incentive of C$5,000, it’ll still take 18.75 yr to pay out.
5. Full cycle charging and discharging EV battery is detrimental to battery health. This is evident from many EV owners who only charge to 80% and discharging to 20% for battery longevity. For the owner wanting to drive the PHEV on a daily basis, one should expect battery life expectancy to decrease to about 15% of an equivalent full EV since you’ll be doing about 7 times more full cycle charging and discharging. I don’t know the exact cost of replacing the new Outlander’s 20 kWh battery but it should be easily north of C$5,000.
6. PHEV weighs 305 kg more than the gasoline model or like carrying 4 full size adults all the time. The additional weight must have adverse effect on the tire and suspension longevity.
7. It’s really irritating having to plug in and unplug the car every time you use the vehicle based on my 30 days rental experience of the vehicle assuming you have access to an electric outlet.
8. Comparing to full electric or ICE cars, PHEV with both components is likely doubling the cost of maintenance not to mention the impact of environment with EV batteries, etc.
Hi folks, I really enjoy your channel, but forgive me for pointing out 3 things re: the Mitsu PHEV that I recently learned,
First, it has a 1 speed tranny, which compromises the hybrid only combined mpg (only 26, 10 less than the Rev Prime PHEV)
Second, although fairly seamless, it constantly switches back and forth between electric only, ice to drivetrain, and ice as
generator. and third, when using region braking, the brake pedal depresses on it own, which can be disconcerting.
I give Mitsubishi a 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻! That’s awesome motoring system. Great video Andrea! Love seeing the trees cover with snow. It’s gorgeous! 👍🏻👍🏻
Yes, I agree, Mitsubishi has done such a great job on this plug-in hybrid. We have definitely had more snow than expected this year but it sure is pretty and the Outlander is very capable in conditions like this.
@@andreaspencer9813 That’s good!
My question is who leaves a huge pile of leaves on the street you had to drive around :) Also I like the styling and think the hybrid is the best option right now over pure EV.
We couldn't believe it when we saw it. I guess the city cleaned them up but didn't pick them up.
That stood out to me too. Big road hazard.
In the Fall the city picks up leaves free of charge (3 times usually) from property owners. All owners need do is take the leaves of the property to the grass verge next to the curb or tightly against the curb for vacuum pick up. The video shot is a property owner being careless.
Hi Andrea and Zack, following your review of the Outlander PHEV, i found it strange that when the battery is depleated you only get 9L/100km on hybrid mode. Did i miss something. Also what is the reliability of that vehicule on a 10 years basis. Thanks and keep the good work.
Pierre
I also find it strange that the fuel consumption is 9L/100km on hybrid mode. I would think 9L/100km would be on the gas ONLY (with 0 battery or in SAVE/CHARGE mode). If it's really 9L/100km on hybrid mode, that mean the PHEV is has efficient has the gas model? We know that the PHEV is 405 kg heavier than the gas model. 🤔
That figure is for charge mode
@@skylerfrankum7717and for charge mode in highway. City charge is 8l/100km(of course nobody should charge in city)
Great review! Thanks guys
Thanks for watching!
One of the reasons Renault/Nissan alliance's purchase of Mitsubishi is because of their PHEV technology, the other is they are hugely successful in 3rd world market on affordable small cars.
Your 100% right!
Ok excellent! it’s not just me😂 It truly drives like an EV, so quiet, and smooth! I loved it, and was surprised by the handling, comfort and performance feel. It’s comforting to hear the “A Team’s” impressions supporting my own!
Initially, I had to fight a few internal demons with the front end styling, but like Zach, it has grown on me to the point that I now really like overall design period! In the line up for a few months now for a GT or GT-P. Bring it on Mitsubishi Canada. 🇨🇦🇯🇵I’ll take a White Diamond with Light Grey please!
Thank you for your efforts and best to you both and your family for the Holidays🎄
Happy holidays to you as well, all the best!
That’s the perfect spot. You get the power and smoothness of EVs with the convenience of using gas stations. Definitely is in my radar.
I regularly get 90 km from a charge driving 50/50 urban/highway, have used 25l of fuel after 2600 km ,I only use recharge when going up hill,get 10 km charge going down hill,I charge at home at around 3$ a charge, which won't be an issue, when I get solar battery back up.
Really at the 50:50 mark between the Outlander and the Sportage. Living in a cold climate I think I may sway to the Outlander after this video. We're ordering one or the other in a month... Decisions decisions!?!?!?!
It certainly helps to have a heat pump but after speaking to a few engineers, a heat pump can only do so much once it gets really cold, so it depends where you live. In Vancouver, a heat pump would be beneficial to us because we are not dealing with really cold conditions like -25. At that point, a heat pump isn't going to do much for you, it's too cold.
I drive a PHEV without a heat pump and though most people only think about pure heat but it's also useful to stop the engine running in cool rain or fog when the humidity would fog up your windows. That will make it very useful through spring and fall to use less gas overall. As far as I know even the Outlander heat pump doesn't work below freezing, but I haven't confirmed if they changed that for Canadian climates.
@@Snerdles I live where temps are -10 f (-23c) at the lowest and from about mid November to mid February are averaging around 15-35 f (-10 -to 2 c) The vehicle would also be stored inside at around 50 f (10c) On an opposite note what about A/C? I also live in a place (northern part of Utah (Perry)) that experiences significant heat. We had 37 days where the temps were above 100 (38c) f this year. These PHEV's would have to run the gas engine to produce air conditioning right? I know heat and cold are these Lithium batteries enemies which also makes me hesitant with these cars. But you see them in all climates so there must be some mitigations going on with the manufactures that aren't totally known by the public. Thanks to you and Andrea for the comments !!
@@TracySwenson No, whether a heat pump or regular AC system they will both run without the gas engine for cooling the cabin since the compressor runs on electricity.
Also, in my vehicle even when you need heat the EV mode still drives the car but the engine just stays idling, even when accelerating. If the battery gets really cold in mine (like parked outside in -15C or colder) then it drives with the engine like a normal car until the battery warms up since using and charging batteries when they are that cold can damage them.
Love the review. this is a great SUV and my wife loves it. You said last night on the show you will be doing some travelling and please travel safe. Have a great family Christmas and relax eat and drink. Look forward to the Sunday night show in the new year. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Thank you so much, all the best to you and your family this holiday season. We are traveling over the next few weeks to San Diego and Las Vegas.
Mitsubishi has done a great job on this vehicle. I would prefer a 2 row option as the 3rd row seems wasted space better utilized by cargo room. Still a lot of great features. I struggle with the economics of the PHEVs. Even with rebate they are still $6000 to $8000 more than an equivalently powered gas model. If the average person travels 20,000 km per year and we will be generous and say they will save 3 L/100 km or 600 L. Using $2/L then optimistically you save $1200 per year. It would take 5 to almost 7 years to break even. Fewer kilometres or smaller gas savings would extend the time. As technology improves I am sure the economics will improve, but for now it appears the economical choice is to stay with a gas only model
You could also save $3000 with 24000km a year if majority of your driving is under 80km at 10 cents KW/H. As people have safely demonstrated they were easily able to attain 80-100km with mainly home charging but that's if it was charged to 100%. Or we use Canada's (Americas figures just in metric) at 61km mark and you'd still save about $2800. In Ontario people would charge over night and that's about 7 cents a KW/H.
I agree that 3rd row option should be deletable by maker. Alex on Autos TH-cam reviewer suggests some owners may unbolt the third row (then stuck with storing it somewhere). He also says he wish Mitsu had designed release levers for easier 3rd row removal.
Wow this MITSU looks more luxurious than any Infinity especially has better interior than the QX50/QX55 combined
I have the '21, installed a high speed charger, I plug it in as soon as I'm parked at home, now that the temperatures are rising I drove 684 miles on 7.2 gals (91 mpg). Love the car, rides great.
Living in the deep south vented seats are a must. Don't see anywhere on Mitsubishi's website where you can add that feature. I'd give up the massage seats for venting.
Great team, great work, I do enjoy your reviews.
Thank you very much!
awesome review...MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS AND HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEARS.....CHEERS from Alberta
Thank you very much, really glad you enjoyed the review. Merry Christmas to you as well, all the best over the holiday season. Thanks for the support!
3.3 kw charger is silly in 2022. Surprised it was not one of the items you guys didn't like. My 2018 volt was 7.7. Our bolt is 11.5. was excited for this model until I saw the charging speed. If they bumped it to 7 kw I'd consider it. Wanted a phev to supplement our Bolt for longer trips .
Will auto manufacturers continue supporting vehicles with this technology post 2035? Seem like hybrids and PHEVs are on borrowed time with the ban on gasoline and diesel powered cars not so far away.
That said, this appears to be a good transition to electrification and Mitsubishi has a good product with this.
Is the hood flutter problem resolved in 2023 model of Mitsubishi Outlander? It will make or break the deal for me.
the model 2022 had the issue and the dealers now fix the hood for free. All new model so most of 2023, the flutter issue is fixed and the cars are delivered without any old known
problem
*** DISCLAIMER NEEDED ***. Love all these ev and PHEV reviews however, it needs to be said in each video at the beginning EV AND PHEV are 2-5 years of wait lists and likely dealer markup of 5k! It’s impossible to obtain any of these ev or PHEV without a lot of work or knowing a dealership owner.
Mitsubishi has inventory, a viewer just bought one and he had a 4 week wait. From what I have heard the top GT model is the most popular so the wait time is longer for it but lower trim models are available sooner. Of course, it depends on the dealership and how much inventory it is getting in. Another viewer said, he ordered a GT model but an SEL came in so he took it, he waited only 2 weeks.
@@andreaspencer9813 Thanks Andrea! I think those are few and far between scenarios. Telsa is 8-12 months, GM is 8-24 months, Kia is 12-24+ months, Toyota is 6-12months, polstar is 6 months, genesis is 12 months etc etc. I called 3 Mitsubishi dealerships in Vancouver a month ago about this PHEV and all said wait list , $500 deposit and might see it 12 months from now. This same scenario is echoed with all major brands selling ev/phev. With global supply chain issues and ev battery constraints it would just be nice to have transparency when the reviews come out that you can’t just go down to the dealership and buy one in a reasonable amount of time. It’s MUCH easier to buy an ICE vehicle right now the wait times are 90 days in some cases.
@@westcoastY2K Yes, I agree the wait time for a hybrid or PHEV now is insane. The fact that Mitsubishi has some inventory is not the norm of course and it depends what dealership you are dealing with. Some get more inventory than others. I hear even gas models have a long wait time.
@@andreaspencer9813 I got fed up with the frustration of trying to move into a phev/hybrid/ev in recent months. I just put in an order for a 2023 Mazda cx-30 turbo. It should be here by march 2023 or sooner. I think that’s acceptable 😁. Also, thanks for the AMAZING review on the cx-30 Turbo definitely helped the decision making easier. Much appreciated- keep up the amazing dynamic you and Zack have…although he’s interrupting you more often lately 😅
BC purchaser here. Made a deposit on the Outlander PHEV GT trim in July. Was just notified I can have an SEL this month. If I want a GT it will be many more months. Price is MSRP plus paint option, freight and PDI, doc fee, tire levy etc., and taxes. In other words, normal price in a seller's market. A different dealer in Vancouver tried to charge me an additional $4k disguised in the usual smarmy but transparent fashion.
Great job 👏
Thank you!
I’m not liking this trend of odd looking massive lights in front that other brands are doing too. I just like trends that evolve yet stay iconic.
Nice review. I'm heading to the dealer for hopefully a test drive if available.
The Korean vehicles are also skimping on Engine size to reduce weight but charge the same or more. I looked at this vehicle when I recently switched my vehicle but couldn't digest the "futuristic" looks, but otherwise felt it's loaded with tons of features. LOL! I personally think Rav4 is the best of the bunch overall. Kia looks good for couple of days but feels boring really fast.
guys I'm ordering this car - interestingly while GAC China is stopping production, could manage to find one from China for a good price - but that has 48V Mild Hybrid.... thanks guys.
E-power with plug in 👏🏻
for those in much colder climates who usually need a block heater for their ICE engine - does plugging this in keep the ICE engine warm, or do you need an additional block heater for that? thanks!
Looks fantastic! it`s a pity Mitsubishi have pulled out of the UK! I would have definitely have ordered one 😥😥😥
I’ve got the top of the range petrol Outlander which I love. I love the idea of the PHEV but I average 7.2 km per 100 now. I don’t get how the electric version would average 6.2!? Especially if you plug it in overnight.
Add in the price premium and eventual battery replacement at say 10 years, it doesn’t make financial sense to me.
2018-2020 models are so damn cheap even with low kms. I just found a 2019 with 60,000 kms for $34,000 Canadian. The cheapest I found was $25,000 Canadian. Save some money and buy one used. My father in law, when he retired in 2020 purchased a fully loaded 2018 outlander PHEV from his former boss had and it only had 25,000 kms when he sold it to my father in law for $30,000.
My in laws love it for how much they run on electric power and how less gas they use. I told them yesterday I might consider getting a second generation outlander PHEV when my 2011 Mazda CX-7 dies in about five years or so. Of course the nearest mitsushitty dealership is an hour away from me, so I might go with a Toyota PHEV.
If I don't charge this much for pure E.V., does it damage the the drivetrain over time? My dealer has a fully loaded one at a good price.
Won’t damage it but you’ll be paying a huge premium for it over the gas version for no reason. If you can’t plug it in you might as well get the gas-only.
Some of your info is out of date. The diagram showed the old motor powers. The clearance is now 8.3"
Great review. You guys are the best . Unfortunately I am not a fan of this design especially the front. All the best to those who like this style of Suv.
Thank you, really glad you enjoyed the review. You are right, the styling isn't going to be for everyone, but it sure handles well.
Questions...
This car has 20 KW battery and EPA number of 38 miles.
And I understand the engine would come in anytime in both NORMAL mode and EV mode depending condition unlike other PHEV such as VOLT or RAV which stay in battery powered mode all the way until the total depletion of the battery.
That means the total miles this car would yield at the end of depletion of 20 kw battery should be higher than the EPA's 38 number since engine would burn gas here and there to supplement the battery use...
Have you figured out the typical actual miles one could expect at the end of day with the depletion fully charged battery in NORMAL or EV mode?
Same question I been asking myself!
I think in ev mode the engine would only come on for heat 🤔, in my 2018 volt the engine also comes on to heat the car when cold enough which I set a delay to -10c factory settings it came on a 0c. The cars ev range does not drop when the engine is running for heat. So that does not change.
I am curious as to why Mitsubishi decided to NOT go with wireless Android and full-stop 1-pedal driving. Seems very odd to me.
With so many levels of regen on the paddles, you'd think that full-stop regen on the highest level would be a no-brainer! Dumb.
I truly don't understand the appeal of larger rims. Just makes things more expensive while increasing the chance of damaging a rim on a curb.
Hello, I own 2022 gas model and want to switch on the phev 2023. Is it worth it? I am really looking forward to your answers. What do you recommend?
Tire Repair Kit - Does it have an extra tyre or we have to fix the tyre with a repair kit?
If you are going to choose which vehicle will you choose. Tuson,sorento or outlander?
If you're looking for a five passenger SUV, the Mazda is a good choice. CX-5 no CVT, no turbo Plus 60 months interest free.
What is going on with the giant leaf pile in the middle of the lane at 13:59?
Good question, they raked them up but never moved them.
Wanna buy for ubber taxi use. What is your suggestion if i use this suv for taxi purpose.
9:50 how much did the bee upgrade cost?
Serious question, need answer: how many children carseats can fit? How many of the seat have anchors for carseats?
At the price point including the the provincial & federal GV rebates, this is a valid bargain. One little thing setting this apart are the peasant blockers in the top trim vehicle used in the review coupled with the quilted leatherette upholstery puts it right along premium brands, without the insurance of those premium brands.
Another request, please include average yearly maintenance costs (atleast for consumables minus the labour) on this PHEV.
Wow! Great review! Love this vehicle other than the front end. I wish they could clean it up a bit but I guess it's a personal opinion. But my big question is - what's with the 8 ft pile of leaves on the road!!!! How does that happen!! Lol
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the review, thanks for watching. I know, who rakes and just leaves them on the road???
@@andreaspencer9813 Thanks for the response. I assume Mitsubishi have a very small market share in North America. Do you ever see them taking the same route that Suzuki did in 2013? That is announcing out of the blue that they are pulling up stakes and abandoning the NA market. I hope it never happens but with small numbers, I guess it could happen. Look at Suzuki.
@@ronripley9197 Mitsubishi does really well in Canada, not as well in the US.
You guys have swayed me.
dc charging connector is outdated, specific to only nissan and mitsu cars. availability and access to the charges supporting this connection will become challenging in no time
Does the engine kick on for heat and defroster during the winter?
I test drove a '23 Outlander PHEV GT today, and the engine never kicked on during my 15 minute in-town drive. It was 6 deg. C (42 F.) here today and the car provided almost instant cabin heat (the vehicle was cold/hadn't been driven today before I arrived at the dealership). I also had the seat heater and steering wheel heater on. The Outlander PHEV is extremely quiet in pure EV mode and overall the vehicle feels very up-level.
@@richardb9591 great info! I have a Santa Fe PHEV and the engine kicks in for heat. I love PHEVs but I would never buy/upgrade unless it has a heat pump.
Do you guys in Canada always pile your leaves in the road?
Seems like a great option,I just wish info center wasn't so intrusive. I would of liked it to be more luxurious look to it like the Mercedes-Benz EV. But overall all nice option.
How are the maintenance costs / parts availability of Mitsubishi in Canada?
What's reliability on Mitsubishi cars and howz customer service? Is there captain seat option for 2nd row?
Does the SE phev outlander 2023 has level 3 dc fast charging? At what speed in mph before the ice engine kicks in? Pls answer as I’m about to buy this soon.
Yes to level 3
@@Motormouth... lastly, if I easy on the gas pedal, until what speed before the ice engine will kick in?
Do you know if homelink is available?
The feature when the gas engine cut in to generate and add more power to the the electric motor: Do you know at what speed the gas engine only take charge? Thanks
130 km/h
This is on my list to purchase, but not with the current interest rates.
How cold will the heat pump work in Canada? Is it a cold climate heat pump that will work down to -15C or less or does it still rely on engine heat when it gets below freezing?
We go to so many different launches and have the opportunity to get in front of the manufacturers, so I always ask them about the heat pump and how efficient it is in colder temperatures. Some say the heat pump is only good to about -5C, once it gets colder than that they aren't very efficient. For us in Vancouver, a heat pump is beneficial but for other provinces where it gets down to -25C, not sure how great one would be.
Why only 1500lb of towing? All the other PHEV's I'm looking at can do 2000lb+. If I didn't want the option to do a little towing I'd happily just get an EV. Disappointing as I've been hanging on for the release of the Outlander PHEV. Back to looking at my other options for now.
6 to 8 liters but does it calculate from a full battery to drive hybrid?
With my Clarity I get 5.5 liters on hybrid only but if I do a the average on battery and hybrid I am around 2.5l but I drain the battery often on long road trip
6.3l/100km with empty battery in hybrid mode.8 to 9l if in charge mode charging battery while driving.
I get 3.8L/100km
@@hoyhoy1605 is this an average tho? If you dive with an empty battery what is the average? I don’t think this SUV gets better mileage than my car which is a PHEV.
Thank you