It'd be so nice if you made a video telling us about player earnings. Like how long do you get you money after winning a tournament. And do you get bonuses
@@nilaytrivedi4239 sorry for the late reply! It was to do with 2009 changes to the tour (when the Master's 1000 series began). Both Hamburg & Monte Carlo were to be downgraded but both filed lawsuits. That's as much knowledge as we have. There is some more information on the Wikipedia page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Tennis_Professionals#2009_changes Hope that helps!
Due to Covid-19, the ATP changed the rankings system so not to penalise players who couldn't travel during the early stages of the pandemic. As a result, the best results from the 2019 or 2020 edition of certain events, were taken for their ranking. This however ended and are slowly transitioning back to the usual system. After Miami 2022, Federer's points from 2019 will drop off.
Can you please explain the distinction between year end no 1 and normal no 1? Or is that the same? I'm just confused cause year end no 1 is based on the yearly race ranking and not the normal ranking ....
Seems overly complicated. Do players monitor and check their own points? Do the organisers make arithmetical mistakes? How does the wildcard system work?
The ATP website has a good breakdown, players are likely to keep a track of points so they know when they have to play to "defend" any. With Wildcards, we are in the process of making a video about it, stay tuned....
It is like the GPA or CWA system in Schools or College.Somehow like some kind of SAT or LSAT System there. It requires men and women good at Stats to fill in the information unto the Computer for Ranking Points and situations.
Great video this but I’m yet to find out why Djokovic didn’t lose his 2000 points from not being in this Aussie open. It doesn’t make sense. Nor does it make sense why Medvedevs points went up since he got to the same stage of this grand slam! Anyone know the answer?
I believe that the 2021 Aus Open points will fall off on 21 Feb, as that’s when the 2021 tournament was played/ended. Points typically last for 12-months.
Yes world number 1 points ranking process is bullshit... WHO ELSE THINKS THAT? If you don't lemme explain.......... Even after winning indian wells, french open and Wimbledon.. Carlitos was only a few points away from zverev.. how's that? .. on the either hand ... the reason I think Rafael Nadal is only 209 weeks as number 1... cz he had to pull out of 19 grand slams in total in his career so far... as champion you have to defend your points ... but you lose 2500 points by default if you don't play.. and you don't get the chance to win them back post recovery... and that's why 4-5 yeats of points of Nadal gone without getting the chance to defend them... while even defending points has it's its inconsistencies.. SA seen by zverev and Carlos points this season... bcz a lot of top players don't even play 250 tournaments... plus points are only considered from your too 19 best results... the rest of the tournament does not count.. so what if a player plays 20 tournaments and a player plays 50.... in this case.. points can be monopolized in certain tournaments with which you can get ahead of the rankings.. something which Federer used to do winning Halle and queens after losing to Nadal on clay masters and Djokovic on had masters consistently ... so I just like prize money distribution... tennis has huugggeee inconsistency in how it counts ATp points . ATP points should be counted as fresh every year from zero.. depending of the amounts of title won and counting finals and semi finals only ...as ponts defeating top 10 players is a bullshit concept..bcz in many tournaments lower ranked players defeat top 10 players to advance forward m. Doe's mean the the tennis quality in the tournament has reduced in the finals ... it just means that specific top 10 players in that tournament wasn't good enough..and we should respect those victory of lower ranked players with true sporting spirit ..so points must be also be based on rounds and level of play...not not beating ranked players ....
How come ? I'm sceptical but not surprised. Women play less in GS events but are nevertheless paid the same as males, which means that by the hour they are paid more.
@@vhyles Only in Shenzhen WTA Finals they were paid so high. U r surprised. I was shocked when I heard this in 2019, and searched internet to confirm it's true. Exact figure I don't remember. But it is definitely more than $3.5mil :)
@@vhyles it’s a fixed fee so there is no hourly pay regardless of how long you pay so you can’t compare it to being paid by the hour. Women are paid equally because they bring in just as much ticket sales for event organisers as the men as seen by the full capacity crowds on days designated for women’s quarter finals, semi finals and finals
@@aaronusernamefiller9435 women play less in Grand Slams events. If Federer spent 30 hours on court, and Serena Williams 20 hours, but they get the same prize money at the end, if we divide the money with the hours spent on court you'll see that by the hour Williams won more money than Federer even though she worked less hours (spent less time on court due to males playing best of 5 sets and women playing best of 3 sets in GS events)
Love how the WTA randomize the awarded points just to be different lol
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Ikrrr he should have way less
It'd be so nice if you made a video telling us about player earnings. Like how long do you get you money after winning a tournament. And do you get bonuses
Dude... This video is awesome, thx
Nice and educational as always 👍
Cool video! Would've loved to see examples of how many points a famous player had in a given year to give some context to the points overall 🙃😅
Novak Djokovic breaks Federer record of most weeks at 1st position
Informative
Let no no one fool you the Ranking system is not perfect at all.
Why only 8 Atp1000 masters are mandatory when we have 9 of them?... Anyways good information.
Monte Carlo is NOT mandatory.
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@@BaselineTennis is there a reason why its not mandatory? loved ur vid
@@nilaytrivedi4239 sorry for the late reply! It was to do with 2009 changes to the tour (when the Master's 1000 series began). Both Hamburg & Monte Carlo were to be downgraded but both filed lawsuits. That's as much knowledge as we have.
There is some more information on the Wikipedia page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Tennis_Professionals#2009_changes
Hope that helps!
And what are the prize money comparisons between WTA and ATP?
Can someone explain to me how Federer still has points for the Miami open even though he hasn't played there since 2019
Due to Covid-19, the ATP changed the rankings system so not to penalise players who couldn't travel during the early stages of the pandemic.
As a result, the best results from the 2019 or 2020 edition of certain events, were taken for their ranking. This however ended and are slowly transitioning back to the usual system.
After Miami 2022, Federer's points from 2019 will drop off.
Can you please explain the distinction between year end no 1 and normal no 1? Or is that the same? I'm just confused cause year end no 1 is based on the yearly race ranking and not the normal ranking ....
Sure - this should explain it: th-cam.com/video/QZS9mhAZ-Js/w-d-xo.html
Shout if you have any further questions.
Seems overly complicated. Do players monitor and check their own points? Do the organisers make arithmetical mistakes?
How does the wildcard system work?
The ATP website has a good breakdown, players are likely to keep a track of points so they know when they have to play to "defend" any. With Wildcards, we are in the process of making a video about it, stay tuned....
It is like the GPA or CWA system in Schools or College.Somehow like some kind of SAT or LSAT System there.
It requires men and women good at Stats to fill in the information unto the Computer for Ranking Points and situations.
And Novak has most year end n1 amazing man. GOAT!
What are wta finals quarter finals??
WTA Finals is a tournament played for women at the end of the year. Whoever wins the Final of WTA finals will be the champion of the year
Great video this but I’m yet to find out why Djokovic didn’t lose his 2000 points from not being in this Aussie open. It doesn’t make sense. Nor does it make sense why Medvedevs points went up since he got to the same stage of this grand slam! Anyone know the answer?
I believe that the 2021 Aus Open points will fall off on 21 Feb, as that’s when the 2021 tournament was played/ended. Points typically last for 12-months.
@@BaselineTennis thank you! This makes perfect sense!
They should just realign the WTA completely and then combine the two 😑
Explain now wtf is going on how alcaraz who won just 1 gs is no.1 and how Djokovic was granted no points after winning a gs
Yes world number 1 points ranking process is bullshit...
WHO ELSE THINKS THAT? If you don't lemme explain..........
Even after winning indian wells, french open and Wimbledon.. Carlitos was only a few points away from zverev.. how's that? .. on the either hand ... the reason I think Rafael Nadal is only 209 weeks as number 1... cz he had to pull out of 19 grand slams in total in his career so far... as champion you have to defend your points ... but you lose 2500 points by default if you don't play.. and you don't get the chance to win them back post recovery... and that's why 4-5 yeats of points of Nadal gone without getting the chance to defend them... while even defending points has it's its inconsistencies.. SA seen by zverev and Carlos points this season... bcz a lot of top players don't even play 250 tournaments... plus points are only considered from your too 19 best results... the rest of the tournament does not count.. so what if a player plays 20 tournaments and a player plays 50.... in this case.. points can be monopolized in certain tournaments with which you can get ahead of the rankings.. something which Federer used to do winning Halle and queens after losing to Nadal on clay masters and Djokovic on had masters consistently ... so I just like prize money distribution... tennis has huugggeee inconsistency in how it counts ATp points . ATP points should be counted as fresh every year from zero.. depending of the amounts of title won and counting finals and semi finals only ...as ponts defeating top 10 players is a bullshit concept..bcz in many tournaments lower ranked players defeat top 10 players to advance forward m. Doe's mean the the tennis quality in the tournament has reduced in the finals ... it just means that specific top 10 players in that tournament wasn't good enough..and we should respect those victory of lower ranked players with true sporting spirit ..so points must be also be based on rounds and level of play...not not beating ranked players ....
U say $2.5mil for atp finals champ. 2019 wta finals champ won $4+mil. It's huuuuuge
How come ? I'm sceptical but not surprised. Women play less in GS events but are nevertheless paid the same as males, which means that by the hour they are paid more.
@@vhyles Only in Shenzhen WTA Finals they were paid so high. U r surprised. I was shocked when I heard this in 2019, and searched internet to confirm it's true. Exact figure I don't remember. But it is definitely more than $3.5mil :)
Because China has more money to pay I think...🙄
@@vhyles it’s a fixed fee so there is no hourly pay regardless of how long you pay so you can’t compare it to being paid by the hour. Women are paid equally because they bring in just as much ticket sales for event organisers as the men as seen by the full capacity crowds on days designated for women’s quarter finals, semi finals and finals
@@aaronusernamefiller9435 women play less in Grand Slams events. If Federer spent 30 hours on court, and Serena Williams 20 hours, but they get the same prize money at the end, if we divide the money with the hours spent on court you'll see that by the hour Williams won more money than Federer even though she worked less hours (spent less time on court due to males playing best of 5 sets and women playing best of 3 sets in GS events)