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I actually grew up during that re-branding era of CN and watched both Unnatural History and TP and I was just waiting to see if you talked about either of them, so I'm deeply satisfied. I was apart of that female audience that loved Tower Prep and I even re-watched it earlier this year so it's really nice to see someone talk about it for a change, even just briefly. I was so upset when it got cancelled too cause it was on a cliffhanger and so we'll never find out how the series actually ended. Also, love the content, keep it up.
When you were a kid and watching this shit were sitting there thinking "I better archive this"? No! You were thinking "I want to be on Destroy Build Destroy!!!!" Just like the rest of us were.
@@gracekim1998 @Michael.: He's a rapper who made a successful career out of mainly just saying "YEAH!", "WHAT?!" and "OKAY!" thus he is cooler than all of us.
In a sentence: Child is son of pretty high-profile rapper man, and thus, genuinely, wins any middle-school coolness contest by default. Like, fuck, as Big Q said, even if the other kids win by a big margin and get the $1k, he gets to go home to his dad being a pretty sizeable name in the music industry. if Lil Jon gets revealed as an abusive fuck this comment will age like a corpse in standing water
For real! I was to young to realize at the time. The simple fact that this CARTOON network was leaning heavily into live action TV was enough to turn me away. Glad I gave adventure time a chance back then though.
Another thing that wasn't mentioned in the video was the Aqua Teen Hunger Force bomb scare in Boston back in 2007. The CEO had to step down, which was another catalyst for the CN Dark Ages.
That "girls don't buy toys" sentiment is even more audacious when you consider how this same network leaned on The Powerpuff Girls as their cash cow for a decade and then brought it back without its creator several times so they could sell even more toys to girls.
@@digimonlover1632 actually no lmao they completely reworked the show into something else and PowerPuff Girls for CW is in development hell until they figure out how they wanna go about it. This was months before my comment.
The idea of Andrew W.K.'s trademark all-white outfit around a bunch of debris, dirt, dust and explosions sounds like a nightmare that becomes a washing powder ad.
I now want to see that commercial that never Existed. Better yet get that advertising agency that did the old spice ads. Remember when there were advertisements that would run after an old spice ad and terry crews interrupted the ad because the old spice ad wasn’t over. Well imagine that but it’s an Andrew wk tide ad interrupted by terry crews. Oh and it would have to be tide because old spice and tide are both proctor and gamble
Adventure Time really saved CN when you think about it. As soon as it premiered in Spring of 2010, pretty much everything started to change for the better on the channel.
Yes i was surprised that he brought up steven universe because i see adventure time as the show that sort of started all those other cutesy cartoons with long term plot lines
@@beepboop756 Adventure time and Total drama island were carrying the network at the time, BUT niether ended the live action shows, because they were still making new live action shows and airing them when adventure time was airing. I dont think adventure time was in of itself enough to kill them off. I think, adventure time started a wave of serialized cartoons that were episodic with overarching plots; cartoons that gave you more as you kept watching. I think steven universe was the first notable example of the trend not including adventure time itself (and also it was absurdly popular when it aired and ground breaking in a lot of its own ways like adventure time). Almost immediately after steven universe most of the live action shows that hadnt already died were canceled. Adventure time deserves credit for keeping CN alive after the disaster that was 2008 CN, but Steven universe is the cartoon that killed off the live action shows.
Yeah, I was thinking the same! Almost every cartoon we can watch today at CN exist because of Adventure Time. Even the Steven universe creator started their career in AT.
The admissions board, upon reading that, at first said "WHAT?", but then they said "OKAY." and then they said "YEAH!". And that is the story of how that kid got into college.
“Dude what would happen” was ahead of its time. Three teenagers do that kind of stuff today, posting it on TH-cam, would become instant multimillion subscriber channels
I remember 11 year old me thinking "Ima start a youtube channel and do dumb stuff for views, but furst I need a flip cam corder." Could've been making bank bois
It sucks because Warner pushed out a lot of their home-grown talent and old showrunners. Maxwell Atoms, Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakovsky, C.H. Greenblatt, etc. all had projects cancelled and eventually left the network to make room for... a bunch of shows thst were canned within a year. We were literally cheated out of years of gold animated content.
"Girls don't buy toys" is the same reason Cartoon Network canceled Young Justice. They literally told Paul Dini that too many girls watched the show, and that was why they killed it.
@@Mike_Dubo I mean complaining about who you're audience is, is dumb. I mean cartoon network fucked up on that one. At the end of the day regardless of the gender of who watchers you're show you still benefit from it. So you are correct.
My little pony? Gone from existence. Littlest Pet Shop? Never heard of her. American Girl? Who is she??? I only know of Action figure and Nerf Gun, those are the only toys
That's pretty much the sole reason Black Widow didn't get a movie for the longest time. Thankfully, the old geezer in charge of those decisions have since left the Marvel/Disney corporation.
The irony I find in this argument is the "girly shows" attract male viewers too, I always love hearing the stories of other guys hiding their love for shows like Totally Spies and Teenage Robot like I did lol
I explicitly remember watching Brain Rush as a kid and thinking it was weird for a CN show, but still entertaining. I went back like a week later to show and was shocked to find it no longer existed. Super weird.
I hated it so much growing up. But it can be because here it was dubbed and the charm Quinton says the host had, well, there was none in the dubbed version.
TheYoungGeninSasuke no dude, gumball’s animation 4th wall break was the animation deteriorating as it goes on, with chowder when they ran out of money, it switch to live action footage of the actors
I instantly lost the little shred of believability I had towards ghost adventures when the piano started playing the ghostbusters theme by itself in one episode
Somebody has to get stuck in a loop of playing the ghostbusters theme on a piano with such a vast personal and emotional significance to them it keeps bleeding through after their death I don’t know who’s gonna take up that life mission but I feel like it’s not as impossible as it sounds. Somebody, somewhere... someday... 😂
I remember watching Destroy Build Destroy as a kid, and weirdly, the one thing I really hated about it, was nobody EVER picked the Destroyers to destroy. Every episode I wanted to see them be picked and destroy whatever with their own hands. But I only ever remember someone picking them...once...and it was great.
I remember the one episode when they did pick the destroyers, the argument that made them choose them was a girl saying “they’ll do more damage to the metal and the other team won’t be able to do anything”
@@julianpeterson4227 Still was a very fun option to watch though, just seeing them hammer away at a vehicle, tearing the doors off their hinges, just seeing pure human muscle do a takedown on something was very satisfying to see once in a while.
@@fngoodmusic78 Honestly though, thinking about it more, would you really want your parts more damaged or undamaged if your going to reuse them for something else? Weird that I’m only thinking about that now, but suddenly that show feels even more scripted than I already knew.
The saddest thing about this awful time in "animation" history is that it came at the heels of one of (imo) the best animation blocks ever. Har Har Tharsdays had a great mixture of Flapjack, Chowder, Total Drama, and either Stoked or 6teen, all shows I LOVED growing up. If Adventure Time hadn't been rejected by Nickelodeon, God only knows what would have happened to Cartoon Network going into the mid 2010's. Possibly no: Regular Show, Gumball, Steven Universe, We Bear Bears, and so many other shows that NEEDED A.T. to succeed when it did to prove that narrative-driven shows and animation itself could actually be profitable for A NETWORK THAT SHOWS CARTOONS.
I’m pretty sure those shows would exist if Nick didn’t reject since Regular Show’s creator actually worked on Flapjack. Gravity Falls’s creator and Adventure Time’s creator also worked on Flapjack.
Well I hate Adventure Time, Regular show is good At least season 1-4, Gumball is one of my favorites of all time, Steven Universe sucks, We Bare Bears is awesome.
I don’t even understand why there would be lack of merchandizing potential???? There’s literally giant robots, wouldn’t be that hard to make toys and shirts outta that.
If you meet people that are arrogant enough to ignore the flaws in their actions, you can indirectly mock them without a care, and they will still greenlit your show to air and make them tons of money.
Game shows are generally easier to fit alongside cartoons, since they have a goofier nature to them. It's like how there was a lot of game shows on Nickelodeon, like Guts, Legends of the Hidden Temple, or Double Dare 2000, but you can't really compare those to the live-action sitcoms around the same time. The closest would be Figure it Out, but that's more because it shared a lot of the same actors from All That.
@@munromister777 that's true, I just meant I was never compelled to watch any of the other live action ones like Destroy Build Destroy, I remember the ads for it but I don't really remember watching it
At this time in CN history I was poor and living in a crackhouse as a kid and they had just stopped FlapJack and Chowder to do this. Ruined my childhood more then the living standards did lol
In the depths of the Netflix office lies Him. He who guards the ancient relict of the company's past. He who has survived longer then any mortal that roams the halls of the upper floors, and will be there when you are but dust. He lurks, waiting... Waiting for the first order in 20 years.
"the lack of copies comes not from obscurity, but complete and total ambivalence" sums it up pretty well. I remember being so shocked when i found out that the majority of Out of Jimmy's Head is lost media, because there was definitely a considerable window of time that the show was an active part of CN's schedule that could have allowed for it to be recorded and archived by viewers. but practically no one in the world cared enough to do that. insane. (also super nice eric andre show nod at 25:06)
That's also true of many other general purpose shows, such as news segments, weather forecast, TV listings. The more ambivalent an audience is of some thing's existence, the less instances of archived material there is.
@@midnightsuspensetheater1356 what feels weird to me is how much of the internet content I watched is now impossible to find. (Channel awesome Stuff that wasn’t Doug Noel Lindsey or Lewis) that completely disappeared from the internet when blip died. I still wish I could find the still gaming side video about baseball card collecting because it’s still the best thing I ever saw that explains the speculator, collectors item bubble, market of the 90’s and how thinking you’re dumb 1in 100 third relaunch of punisher variant Cover 3 comic you cherish as going to be worth something someday is never going to be worth anything. Because unlike something relevant to collectors history like a Mickey mantle rookie card, action comics 1 or the boba fett toy with the rocket launcher backpack. And you were sold speculation of a future collectors market as a means to drive sales
@@brandonporter8509 There is so much lost media from Channel Awesome that it's really upsetting. Some of them may never be reuploaded because the producer long since lost or deleted the original copy to save room on their digital storage and no one has a copy of it. Heck, it could even happen to you. I have a video I made with an old camcorder as a teenager I was proud of that is forever lost to time because someone decided to record over it with footage of their dog running in a backyard and all of my early writing when I started to get into the hobby is lost because I used a program that was discontinued and was incompatible with Word and LibreOffice.
Nah, both the lack of merchandise sales and lack of people actually watching meant the end for Young Justice. Critically acclaimed, but not well-viewed
Same thing for symbionic titan and I’m sure as well as thundercats (2011). I just feel that if toy deals weren’t happening, they didn’t know what to do with some of their amazingly written action shows. 🙃
Greg Weidman has stated Young Justice was cancelled solely sue to low you sales. People misinterpreted Paul Dini's statement about Tower Prep's cancellation and applied it to Young Justice.
I remember thinking the premise of Out of Jimmy's Head was the dumbest thing ever ("brain transplant??? what???") and never managed to get into it because of that
I might be wrong, but I swear I remember there was an episode of Dude What Would Happen where they where like “What would happen if caveman could write?” And they just dressed a dude up in a caveman costume and told him to write, and lost their shit when he did.
Tower Prep was a legitimately good show, and the fact that it got cancelled after 1 season, leaving _all_ of its mysteries unanswered, simply because the CN executives somehow actually believed "girls don't buy toys" has been absolutely infuriating me for years.
From my memory, CN Real eventually wasn't just a block, but seemed to take over most of the day. This was a major disappointment to me as an animation fan, especially because Cartoon Network was my favorite station for my entire childhood. I abandoned Cartoon Network at that time cuz it seemed to only have the live-action stuff. Personally, I feel Adventure Time was what started the Cartoon Network Renaissance and started the process to get away from CN Real. I came back to Cartoon Network because of it and the shows that followed. I will say that the huge success of that and Steven Universe worked together, though, with their merch sales to convince the execs to go back to the network's roots.
I feel you for that. I literally remeber coming home at one point and incredible crew was on and multiple love action shows were on so long that it seemed like it really lasted the whole part of the day when i was home until maybe something in the middle or something that was animated would come on, then it'd go right back to live action. I went through phases with different channels, disney, nickelodeon, and cartoon network but i was trying to hold on to cn, but at some point i started watching Disney shows again during that time.
And you're so right about adventure time, im surprised he said Steven universe instead. I do remember being excited for Steven universe so much, but i think they already had some more animated shows before SU that weren't horrifically bad (ughhh besides things like mystery solverz *shudders*).
Yeah I remember I'd come home from school and I'd be able to watch like the last half of KND and then CNReal would start up and I'd just go watch real mythbusters instead. I did like out of jimmy's head but nobody seems to remember it
@@whatif3271 i was surprised too! adventure time came out a good three years prior to steven universe, and it was rebecca sugar really took off too. her episodes tended to always be fan favorites in early at.
I completely stopped watching TV around this time because up until then I was really only watching CN cartoons anymore and a lot of the shows I watched on Disney and Nickelodeon were ending/had already ended. I missed so many good cartoons because I'm just out of the habit of watching TV anymore, though I did catch some of them as reruns miles down the line.
I did merch for Andrew WK a few years back. Nice guy, pretty weird, clearly VERY burnt out by performing so much enthusiasm on his weird motivational speech tour. Still didn’t stop him from being a super super nice guy to everyone he came in contact with.
@@gortrobot578 I still think these shows were too much of ripoffs like he said, like I specifically remember watching DBD and going "Wait, isn't this just Junkyard Wars?"
In actuality the scripted shows were really good as well. The natural history one was a fun romp even if it was just a rebranded Warehouse 13. And Tower prep was seeping with mystery and just begging for a deep lore exploration.
I remembered "Dude, What Would Happen?" and "Destroy, Build, Destroy". But the moment you mentioned "Level Up", I had f*cking Vietnam War-esque flashback.
is it bad I liked quite a bit of the mediocre shows? xD I remember level up, dude what would happen, hole in the wall, and destroy build destroy very fondly. I think at the time I recognized that they were kinda bad but grew to love them anyway because I didn’t like much else what was on TV. I vividly remember one of the bumpers for the TV show Level Up and it had one of the main actors talking about one of their favorite bands, Artic Monkeys. I still flashback to that bumper every now and then when Artic Monkeys is mentioned.
Hey there! I worked at the studio from 2005-2010, so I can add in my a few extra opinions/bits of background. The rebranding: Yes, they were looking for pitches that still somehow involved animation. I pitched the idea of a show that followed different episodes being made from storyboard to final edit leading up to the presentation of the actual episode. Never got picked up. The writers strike did affect Jimmy's head. However, most of the writers /board artists were covered by local 839, not the WGA. The big turning point was the Boston / Aqua teen bomb scare. Jim Samples took the fall and the Stu Snyder/ Rob Sorcher duo took over. They wanted live action because yes it was cheaper (and faster) to make. Most shows don't work on the turn around time south park has. Sometimes it takes years to see a first episode. Live action was greenlit in droves and tons of people on the animation got laid off (myself included). It's sad how many people never went back to the field after the layoffs. I transitioned to making puppets, doctoring scripts and freelance (most recently I broke into video game writing) but other people who were incredibly talented had to turn to retail or government jobs, just to finally have job security. (Working in animation means always hustling for your next gig.) Some people were able to join Hasbro's studio back when it was up and running, but the glut of people looking for jobs was bad. With streaming platforms making originalcontentover the years has helped some peoplecome back, others are gone for good. It's a real shame, honestly.
Yeah ngl I was hoping Quinton would reference the ATHF bomb scare because it’s a highly contained incident from a hindsight perspective that shook up so so much within Cartoon Network. Thank you for reminding/informing people of that incident!
@@flyingbodysymphony I read below after posting. Someone else mentioned it, too. 👍 The timing was weird because we had all almost forgotten about it when we had everyone together for a meeting down the street at the AMC they rented out (no place in house could hold everyone.) They ran a clip of Snyder talking to the employees from corporate from Atlanta. He used so many sports analogies, most people were super lost. Then he talked about Sorcher coming over from Mad Men, and I think that's when everyone got a sense of "Oh, no. This doesn't bode well."
I remember when I was about 9 or 10 I was apart of some early test screening for the shows destroy build destroy, and dude what would happen. I sat in a small theatre-esque room with about 15-20 other kids, and watched the shows first episodes. we had a small dial on the arm chair of where we were sitting, and the number we gave was attached to our names so the people running the whole thing knew which kids didn’t like and did like this show. after the screening was over we were lead into offices where we sat and talked to people about our scores, and when I was asked why I gave it a zero, I said “It’s not a cartoon” (we all knew it was going on cartoon network)
Me at the beginning of the video: "Hey! I liked CN Real!" Me, minutes later: "Wait, there were more shows than just Dude, What Would Happen and Destroy Build Destroy? Since when?!"
I am from South America and I just knew about CN Real thanks to MAD parody of Destroy Build Destroy Then I discovered why It was mid morning programs here in South America, time which I was at school xD
I feel about the same. Dude What Would Happen was so chaotic and fun and I really wanted to be on Destroy Build Destroy as a kid. Fun stuff, especially when I was 10
Pretty sure CN Real would've died anyways. The shows had crappy ratings even before SU and AT were a thing. If not for those new cartoons, though, I imagine the network would've just died entirely.
Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gumball were the brave saviors that ended the Dark Age of CN. Unfortunately, we’ve come to a new age where CN only values shows that sell for cheap like TTG like Spongebob was for Nickelodeon. It’s a shame how the animators that actually try to put on a good show only get cut by the network because it doesn’t try to replicate the energy from their top show.
Honestly impressed that you managed to make the premise of Re-Animated sound coherent. That movie is batshit. It took me until like 20 minutes into the film to realize that I wasn't watching an extended opening dream sequence.
I remember catching an episode of "Dude, What Would Happen?" one day and going "Wait a minute.......this is just Mythbusters but if the hosts were what a bunch of corporate suits thought teenagers are like"
It's so weird for me seeing everyone compare this to Mythbusters, as I never thought to make that comparison. I always considered it a 2009 spiritual successor to Zoom.
It's weird. I remember another live action Cartoon Network show that wasn't mentioned here. A game show called Hole in the Wall, which I'm pretty sure was an adaptation of a Japanese game show.
Somehow I specifically remember being at someone else's house and specifically watching hole in the wall. Not as good as "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, I punch your face."
I laughed when Zoey 101 was included in the low-budget live action references just that was actually one of the most expensive live action shows Nickelodeon has ever made
The lack of cheap live-action shows was the reason I always loved Cartoon Network over Nick or Disney. CN Real was the worst thing to ever happen to CN.
True, Cartoon Network focus on the quality of their cartoons as well. Even in Cartoon Network’s dark age, there were at least shows on the network that were worth watching (Flapjack and Chowder are the shows I’m referencing to). The last good shows that I really liked on Nickelodeon were My Life as A Teenage Robot and Invader Zim (anything shows that came out after My Life as A Teenage Robot on Nickelodeon were shit). I never really watched Disney.
I still can't believe that ""READY TO DIE"", by Andrew WK was the main theme for CN at the time. Really shows how they wanted you to feel while watching their programs at the time.....
@@kobalt_ren01 I'm trying to remember though if they used that song at any point. Even if it was just for one ad to promote the block that night. I feel like they did, but probably am wrong.
I'll never forget the first time i came across DWWH completely by accident. The premise of the episode was "what would happen if we popped the world's biggest zit?" And ended with a Volkswagen Beetle full of ranch dressing being dropped from a crane. The 2010's were wild.
If you search "Human Tetris" you can find the Japanese show they were imitating. There were attempts to make versions of that all over the world, except I think the Japanese version was just a segment on a larger game show about absurd challenges. It makes no sense to try to turn it into a whole weekly half hour program. But they did!
@@helloofthebeach It goes further. The American version hole in the wall originally aired on Fox and was meant for an adult audience having adults on the show and more mature humor. The show flopped on fox so it only lasted like literally a few episodes until it was picked up by cartoon network and marketed to kids.
I find it hilarious that OK K.O. ran a crossover episode with Sonic the Hedgehog and Tails... And then it’s cancellation was announced like a week later
@@soullessprincess6473 the sad part about that is the crossover episode gave CN the highest TV viewing they'd had in years and they STILL canceled OKKO. They were gonna do Sailor Moon, Mega Man, and Sabrina the Teenaged Witch crossovers too.
I vividly remember that in the Reanimated movie, Jimmy’s love interest was Asian, but in the show she was black, and I’m pretty sure they were suppose to be the same character
the earliest memory i have of live action content being hosted on cartoon network was their friday block that started in 2003 that was hosted by tommy and nzinga (who was later replaced by tara). i seem to remember them doing skits and stuff (theres one that sticks out in my head of either nzinga or tara running after a car and seeing her in a side view mirror and the mirror saying "nzinga/tara in the mirror is closer than they appear). i know that technically it wasn't full shows with dedicated blocks in the programming, and it was more filler and transitional material between shows, but it was still a weekly "event" hosted by real people on cartoon network, and i remember it really blew my mind at the time that there were real people being shown on cartoon network (and also i could stay up late watching shows before adult swim came on)
However, the difference is that at least they were done as wraparounds, and some puppetry was used. Not to mention that Carton Cartoon Fridays, the previous block was just recycling it's segments over and over. With Fridays, there was always something new every week.
I remember they had human hosts and had the animated characters host, but I don't remember the order they happened. In hindsight though I feel like it was cartoons first, people second. But I definitely enjoyed that!
One sentence: _"Party, Party, Party, I wanna have a party, I need to have a party, you better have a party, party party party, you gotta party hardy, you better have a party, or else you will be sorry!"_
4:48 can we just appreciate how hilariously bad this clip from the Re-Animated movie is? Kid runs up to a train going 0.5 MPH, gets launched 30 feet in the air, and you can tell how horribly green-screened it was done
I do want to say it was more Adventure Time than Steven Universe that kicked off CN’s new golden era. AT was MASSIVELY popular from 2010-2015. It was everywhere, it was cn’s baby for a good while until teen titans go came out. Just always irks me a bit that because adventure time died down in popularity in its later years (though it was still VERY good), that people seem to have forgotten its impact. It kicked the era of “slice of life that becomes more mature and darker as it goes on” that steven universe and star vs thrived in. Seems just a little unfair to AT to give the credit to SU when steven universe likely wouldn’t have existed without it. It’s where Rebeca Sugar started becoming popular as storyboard artist in the first place.
Ya know, you’re right and I’m sick of people over glorifying Stevens Universe, when that show would more than likely have never been a thing if Adventure Time and Regular Show didn’t fix CN
Without Flapjack, Adventure Time, Regular Show and Steven Universe wouldn’t exist since Flapjack is where Adventure Time’s creator and Regular Show’s creator got there start.
That combo of Adventure Time and Regular Show around the same time, COMPLETELY revived CN, and I say that as someone who was in their core demographic back then, lol
I feel like it would have been less harmful to society in general if, in response to the writer's strike, the networks just filled the shows with nothing but the actors screaming, hooting, moaning, and making other assorted mouth noises. Or, you know, actually paying their writers what their labor was worth.
i really thought Quinton would say something about how questionable that comment was. lmao. tbh i had to constantly remind my nephews that people die and kill in wars because they only think about what toy companies sell them , aka cool outfits, vehicles and guns.
There's two live action things I'd be okay with seeing on CN; Shows going backstage documenting how cartoons are made, and a Mythbusters-esc show where they try stuff cartoons do in real life to see if, for example, you can really slip on banana peels etc. ...the idea being that both would tie into cartoons in the end.
@@wolfbones666 Not really. Documentary content doesn't require actual TV writers, just producers and editors- just like realty TV. But that's too high brow.
The CN's _girls don't buy toys_ approach cancelled Green Lantern The Animated Series and it was phenomenal! It sadly was not liked by preteen boys but had a lot of female fans that were teenagers or in their early twenties, _and the toys sucked so no one was buying_ . The series was really really good, it's one of my absolute favorites, but sadly - there's only one season... AND DUDE NINJAGO IS ALSO PRETTY GOOD how dare you insult it like that Quinton... my emotional support show, how dare you. Despite everything, It's actually pretty good xD
Same thing happened to Young Justice! A huge portion of its fanbase was teenage/20 year oldish girls, which apparently isn’t as a worthwhile audience as the most beloved target audience 7-11 year old boys.
@@finnsword8286 when I was 8 year old and that show was airing I thought it was coolest shit ever, I also now realize that Kid Flash and Zatanna on that show is what made me realize I was bisexual, which is cool.
The whole “girls don’t buy toys” thing isn’t the real why those shows were canceled. What really happened to Green Lantern the animated series was that the show was meant to market the 2011 Green Lantern starring Ryan Reynolds. And bc the movie was a critical and financial failure, it caused the animated series to be canceled. For Young Justice, it was bc of toys but it was just girls who didn’t buy them it was boys as well as the company Mattel who makes the toys and publish them did not promote the toys nor the network itself. In other words, people had no idea that the toys exist bc they were barely promoted.
@@ahmadalaqib8148 indeed, I feel like the second season where they finally defeated Lord Gurmendon, which then cured Lloyd’s dad should have been the final chapter. Everything after that felt like they were just dragging the series
Dini's rant was a lie, Tower Prep was doing terrible overall, barely averaging a million viewers when the network's most popular shows were doing double that.
It's such a dumb thing to believe in. Pokemon, Barbie, and Hello Kitty make so much money because of their female buying power that they're so ingrained with the culture of so many countries.
@Dont Matter "Pokemon is not for girls" I'm not sure you wanna go saying that ... there are plenty of female Pokemon fans that love the franchise and have grown up with it.
Nothing was a bigger slap in the face then watching the "Final Five Foster's episodes" marathon with ads for CN Real being played over and over during every break.
Yeah, Cartoon Network was never really good at handling finales to their shows. Still pissed off about how they handled Samurai Jack series finale at the time in the early 2000s, how they handled Toonami's cancellation and Foster's series finale. They handled Ed, Edd and Eddy series finale well tho. 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
Y’know if Out Of Jimmy’s Head was JUST a kid who could see cartoons in real life, it might’ve been okay. But then the had the *brilliant* idea to have an alien sister... And that just pushed it too far.
The biggest take away I have from this era was tower prep had a bit where they used "you're gonna go far kid" as scoring music and I was like "this says fuck in it what the hell"
"Hey guys! You know that art form that our network is built entirely around and is what our audience comes to us for and expects? Let's do the opposite of that! We'll make millions!"
@@PersephoneDarling28 Yes but their brands weren't tied to 1 type of media. Disney had live action movies for decades and Nick always had live action shows prior to it's 80s renaming. It'd be like if Food Network started a sports block, sure there's a huge market for sportsball but not on that network. Stay in your lane Cartoon Network....unless it's Space Ghost Coast to Coast and Adult Swim then no rules apply.
I hate to say it, but same. Destroying vehicles and materials, building a vehicle out of those materials, then destroying the loser's vehicle was cool.
It's so weird to see them be like, "We're popular with the wrong audience." Like, you can't find SOMETHING to market to people other than stereotypical toys for boys? Like, teens can irresponsibly spend THEIR OWN money, they don't have to rely on begging parents for it.
Ah man, Tower Prep was fucking awesome. I am still heartbroken it was canceled. Really great example of a fantastic show being aired on the wrong station. It could have easily been at home on CW (I think it was still WB at that time) or ABC Family.
@@Nitrodino7875 Its basically about a secret school that abducts kids with powers. For what purpose we never found out. And the powers aren't like large scale comic hero powers, but smaller stuff, like one guy has the ability to react to things to split second ahead of time, one girl has empathic abilities. It focuses on the four main characters trying to figure out why they are at the school and escape it. It was surprisingly good, just aired on the wrong network. Would have been right at home on like CW or ABC Family/Freeform.
no fucking way, i totally forgot that Bobb'e kid went to my middle school when that show was airing. He was constantly ditching class and doing wild shit. He did could do backflips and would do it often, and also got in at least one fight. He was there for less than a month i believe, good times.
I honestly get the feeling that most kids nowadays are gonna remember Andrew Wk for stuff like Destroy build destroy and the ready to die song found in the cupcakes video , whether that's a good thing or not is up for you to decide.
That's exactly where I first found the song years ago when I was like...11. Nowadays I actually like the song and I don't even think about Cupcakes HD anymore.
Somewhere in the world, some guy who watched Destroy Build Destroy as a kid is discovering Andrew W.K's party music for the first time, and that's a beautiful thing.
Cartoon Network's idea that "girls don't buy toys" has gotten other shows canceled too. The most infamous example of this is when Cartoon Network cancelled "Young Justice."
Weirdly enough, the block never aired in Latin America but I remember how Destroy Build Destroy (and maybe Dude what would happen) was shown during the weekend early in the morning probably as filler
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17:37 Man, your analysis on Ghost Adventures is absolutely spot on. My brother and I were glued to it, watching every episode in the darkness. I remember my Dad kind of teased us that it was fake while walking by, and I got so mad like "Dad, this is real! This is important!" Now I watch it and cringe. Also we filmed are own versions of Ghost Adventures where my brother would film me talking to Ghost using a tape-recorder. Unrelated side note: We'd call the main guy Zak Douche-Bagans.
I used to turn on CN exclusively for CN Real and then turn it off when the cartoons came on as a kid because I didn't connect with cartoons at all. this is strange because now I have trouble focusing on any media that isn't animated
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you forgot hole in the wall
@@noahbancroft1935 that's a FOX show.
I actually grew up during that re-branding era of CN and watched both Unnatural History and TP and I was just waiting to see if you talked about either of them, so I'm deeply satisfied. I was apart of that female audience that loved Tower Prep and I even re-watched it earlier this year so it's really nice to see someone talk about it for a change, even just briefly. I was so upset when it got cancelled too cause it was on a cliffhanger and so we'll never find out how the series actually ended. Also, love the content, keep it up.
fine I'll sub on my other accounts..
Imagine making media so bad and forgettable that it becomes lost media in an era where everyone has recording devices
Yeah. I'd feel so bad if that happened to a piece of media I made
that last part made me think of that one black mirror episode
I never knew this even existed.
When you were a kid and watching this shit were sitting there thinking "I better archive this"? No! You were thinking "I want to be on Destroy Build Destroy!!!!" Just like the rest of us were.
@@muhklungky6855 No excuses when there's hours of nickelodeon commercials archived on TH-cam
*White kid’s team on their way home*
Kid’s father: Son, what’s up? You won.
Kid: It’s just... You’re not Lil John.
Who’s Lil John?😅
@@gracekim1998 I have no idea but it sounds like one hell of a flex
@@gracekim1998 I think the most straightforward way I can describe him is by saying he is the vocalist on turn down for what
@@gracekim1998 @Michael.: He's a rapper who made a successful career out of mainly just saying "YEAH!", "WHAT?!" and "OKAY!" thus he is cooler than all of us.
In a sentence: Child is son of pretty high-profile rapper man, and thus, genuinely, wins any middle-school coolness contest by default. Like, fuck, as Big Q said, even if the other kids win by a big margin and get the $1k, he gets to go home to his dad being a pretty sizeable name in the music industry.
if Lil Jon gets revealed as an abusive fuck this comment will age like a corpse in standing water
It never clicked in my head that the writers strike lined up with the rise of reality TV.... makes so much sense now
For real! I was to young to realize at the time. The simple fact that this CARTOON network was leaning heavily into live action TV was enough to turn me away. Glad I gave adventure time a chance back then though.
Another thing that wasn't mentioned in the video was the Aqua Teen Hunger Force bomb scare in Boston back in 2007. The CEO had to step down, which was another catalyst for the CN Dark Ages.
Ya I nva thought of it either I feel kinda dumb for nva connecting the dots
I think it might've been a combo of the strike and the 2008 recession
@@weirdotzero7065 no
The low-energy "What's up. It's ya boy Bobbe J. Now check this out." followed by a kid smashing through a pool table actually made me laugh
I know this is a year old, but me too
Zoomer humor like a decade early
in the first episode the guy is already on "ya boy" terms
That "girls don't buy toys" sentiment is even more audacious when you consider how this same network leaned on The Powerpuff Girls as their cash cow for a decade and then brought it back without its creator several times so they could sell even more toys to girls.
They are making a live action Powerpuff Girls show on The CW.
@@michaelbolcato192 not anymore
And then his wife and collaborator went on to reboot a little show you may have heard of called MY LITTLE PONY.
@@that_deadeyegamer7920 Actually yea
@@digimonlover1632 actually no lmao they completely reworked the show into something else and PowerPuff Girls for CW is in development hell until they figure out how they wanna go about it. This was months before my comment.
“Who name’s their kid Slade-”
“My dad is Lil Jon!”
*”OKAY!”*
Whaaat!?
YEAAAAAAH!!
Lil john a teen titans fan confirmed
Such a cool ass name.
Apparently his real name is Nathan.
The idea of Andrew W.K.'s trademark all-white outfit around a bunch of debris, dirt, dust and explosions sounds like a nightmare that becomes a washing powder ad.
Why Tide never picked him up was beyond me.
I now want to see that commercial that never Existed. Better yet get that advertising agency that did the old spice ads. Remember when there were advertisements that would run after an old spice ad and terry crews interrupted the ad because the old spice ad wasn’t over. Well imagine that but it’s an Andrew wk tide ad interrupted by terry crews. Oh and it would have to be tide because old spice and tide are both proctor and gamble
the idea of someone saying "did you know the host of destroy build destroy is also a musician" is absolutely blowing my mind
Bold of you to assume the man showers or does laundry (he's talked about how he doesn't in interviews)
Adventure Time really saved CN when you think about it. As soon as it premiered in Spring of 2010, pretty much everything started to change for the better on the channel.
Yes i was surprised that he brought up steven universe because i see adventure time as the show that sort of started all those other cutesy cartoons with long term plot lines
yup. i started watching CN again because of adventure time.
@@beepboop756 Adventure time and Total drama island were carrying the network at the time, BUT niether ended the live action shows, because they were still making new live action shows and airing them when adventure time was airing. I dont think adventure time was in of itself enough to kill them off. I think, adventure time started a wave of serialized cartoons that were episodic with overarching plots; cartoons that gave you more as you kept watching. I think steven universe was the first notable example of the trend not including adventure time itself (and also it was absurdly popular when it aired and ground breaking in a lot of its own ways like adventure time). Almost immediately after steven universe most of the live action shows that hadnt already died were canceled.
Adventure time deserves credit for keeping CN alive after the disaster that was 2008 CN, but Steven universe is the cartoon that killed off the live action shows.
Yeah, I was thinking the same! Almost every cartoon we can watch today at CN exist because of Adventure Time. Even the Steven universe creator started their career in AT.
Omg and also, can we talk about Ben 10? ¡It was a headache here in Latin America!
that kid probably put "My dads Lil Jon" in his college resume.
and the admissions board said *OKAY*
The admissions board, upon reading that, at first said "WHAT?", but then they said "OKAY." and then they said "YEAH!". And that is the story of how that kid got into college.
@@billyweed835 what? hell yeah! what?
A D M I T T E D
“Dude what would happen” was ahead of its time. Three teenagers do that kind of stuff today, posting it on TH-cam, would become instant multimillion subscriber channels
Yeah, like Dude Perfect
I’m gonna go punch some ham!!
Hell even if they just put it on TH-cam at that time, they would have been among the first "TH-cam celebrities"
I remember 11 year old me thinking "Ima start a youtube channel and do dumb stuff for views, but furst I need a flip cam corder."
Could've been making bank bois
And somehow, they were less obnoxious than the guys who do it today.
It sucks because Warner pushed out a lot of their home-grown talent and old showrunners. Maxwell Atoms, Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakovsky, C.H. Greenblatt, etc. all had projects cancelled and eventually left the network to make room for... a bunch of shows thst were canned within a year.
We were literally cheated out of years of gold animated content.
C.H. Greenbalt is working on a new Hanna-Barbera cartoon show for HBO Max and Genndy is working on a new show for Cartoon Network and HBO Max.
@@michaelbolcato192 Well yeah they eventually came back when management stopped being assholes to them
I completely agree
i remember being a pissed off 10/11 year old when this came out, I wanted to see Underfist the tv show 😭
Meanwhile Maxwell wasn’t able to create Underfist
"Girls don't buy toys" is the same reason Cartoon Network canceled Young Justice. They literally told Paul Dini that too many girls watched the show, and that was why they killed it.
But why... how... that doesn't....
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
THEY ARE STILL AN AUDIENCE THATS WATCHING THE SHOW!!! ISN'T THAT THE IMPORTANT PART?!!!
@@Mike_Dubo
I mean complaining about who you're audience is, is dumb.
I mean cartoon network fucked up on that one.
At the end of the day regardless of the gender of who watchers you're show you still benefit from it.
So you are correct.
If I recall correctly, Thundercats 2011 and GLTAS were canceled because of poor (or in Green Lantern’s case, Non-Existent) toy sales
@@Mike_Dubo the important part is toy sales unfortunately
Wasn't it Symbiotic-Titan that was cancelled because of the toy deal rumor? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
"Girl's don't buy toys" Ah yes. Dolls do not exist. Have these people never heard of Barbie?
"Sanrio wants to know your location"
It gets stupider when you realise that they said that the same year MLP Gen4 came out.
My little pony? Gone from existence. Littlest Pet Shop? Never heard of her. American Girl? Who is she??? I only know of Action figure and Nerf Gun, those are the only toys
“Girls don’t buy toys. Clearly, it’s the shows’ fault.”
- Rich CN executive, one year into the worst economic disaster in recent memory
what kinda toys?~
"girls don't buy toys" has led to the cancellation of so many shows 😩
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That's pretty much the sole reason Black Widow didn't get a movie for the longest time. Thankfully, the old geezer in charge of those decisions have since left the Marvel/Disney corporation.
It's just such a stupid mentality. There are literal franchises that have been built on the fact that girls very much do like toys
@Jåsh I like your pic
The irony I find in this argument is the "girly shows" attract male viewers too, I always love hearing the stories of other guys hiding their love for shows like Totally Spies and Teenage Robot like I did lol
I explicitly remember watching Brain Rush as a kid and thinking it was weird for a CN show, but still entertaining. I went back like a week later to show and was shocked to find it no longer existed. Super weird.
It would’ve worked better on Nickelodeon.
@@ezefinkielman4672 it was on Nickelodeon
Oof *nickleodeon you mean? Maybe that’s why it didn’t exist for you lol
@EpicPiesMan I remember seeing it in a top 10 nickelodeon game shows
@EpicPiesMan wait no I remember they put brainsurge not brain rush
This shit was terrible. I just wanted to watch some god damn Ben 10 and Andrew WK held my TV hostage
I wanted to watch Foster's Home.
@@eatatjoes6751 samee and chowder
Me too man I feel u on that i was so annoyed 😠
Looney Tunes Tom and Jerry Ben 10 Chowder 6Teen Total Drama Flapjack Ed Edd and Eddy Foster's were the 2008 lineup
I say just skip over CN and go watch Nickelodeon or Disney channel. (That's where the good sh*t is)😏
I bet I’ve probably consumed every single second of Destroy Build Destroy entirely though watching the ads over the years
I remembered an episode of Mad (the animated series of the Mad Magazine) where they made fun of DBD.
It's actually a pretty cool concept for a show, but it doesn't belong on *CARTOON* Network.
@@elebrony well and if you watch one, you've seen them all.
I liked the concept as an engineer (albeit a computer engineer), but I don't think it fits on this channel.
I hated it so much growing up. But it can be because here it was dubbed and the charm Quinton says the host had, well, there was none in the dubbed version.
The only good live action thing CN has made was that funny chowder fourth wall break where they run out of money to do the animation
Gumball did that.
TheYoungGeninSasuke no dude, gumball’s animation 4th wall break was the animation deteriorating as it goes on, with chowder when they ran out of money, it switch to live action footage of the actors
@prickly pear I wasn't really the same, and if it was, I'd say they did it equally as well.
Destroy build destroy was great too. I don’t remember much outside of that, but I don’t remember being particularly captivated by anything else.
man Chowder was the best. I wish there was more of it.
I died when the kid just causally slips in “my dad’s Lil Jon”
It's the way that Quinton screams "*WWWWHAT?!*" that really gets me there.
yeaAAHHHHHH
I instantly lost the little shred of believability I had towards ghost adventures when the piano started playing the ghostbusters theme by itself in one episode
You don't believe ghosts can have a sense of humour?
It would be funny if a ghost actually played the Ghostbusters theme on piano but that's fake.
Somebody has to get stuck in a loop of playing the ghostbusters theme on a piano with such a vast personal and emotional significance to them it keeps bleeding through after their death
I don’t know who’s gonna take up that life mission but I feel like it’s not as impossible as it sounds. Somebody, somewhere... someday... 😂
If I ever become a ghost, I'm definitely gonna play music from Beetlejuice lol
I remember watching Destroy Build Destroy as a kid, and weirdly, the one thing I really hated about it, was nobody EVER picked the Destroyers to destroy. Every episode I wanted to see them be picked and destroy whatever with their own hands. But I only ever remember someone picking them...once...and it was great.
they were always one of the weaker options
I remember the one episode when they did pick the destroyers, the argument that made them choose them was a girl saying “they’ll do more damage to the metal and the other team won’t be able to do anything”
@@julianpeterson4227 Still was a very fun option to watch though, just seeing them hammer away at a vehicle, tearing the doors off their hinges, just seeing pure human muscle do a takedown on something was very satisfying to see once in a while.
@@fngoodmusic78 Honestly though, thinking about it more, would you really want your parts more damaged or undamaged if your going to reuse them for something else? Weird that I’m only thinking about that now, but suddenly that show feels even more scripted than I already knew.
The saddest thing about this awful time in "animation" history is that it came at the heels of one of (imo) the best animation blocks ever.
Har Har Tharsdays had a great mixture of Flapjack, Chowder, Total Drama, and either Stoked or 6teen, all shows I LOVED growing up.
If Adventure Time hadn't been rejected by Nickelodeon, God only knows what would have happened to Cartoon Network going into the mid 2010's. Possibly no: Regular Show, Gumball, Steven Universe, We Bear Bears, and so many other shows that NEEDED A.T. to succeed when it did to prove that narrative-driven shows and animation itself could actually be profitable for A NETWORK THAT SHOWS CARTOONS.
I’m pretty sure those shows would exist if Nick didn’t reject since Regular Show’s creator actually worked on Flapjack. Gravity Falls’s creator and Adventure Time’s creator also worked on Flapjack.
I genuinely forgot 6Teen existed, holy crap. I should totally go rewatch that
@@amberhernandez pretty sure all episodes are here on TH-cam.
Well I hate Adventure Time, Regular show is good At least season 1-4, Gumball is one of my favorites of all time, Steven Universe sucks, We Bare Bears is awesome.
@@icecreamhero2375 ok??
As the mother of a toddler-aged girl, I lowkey wish the sentiment of “girls don’t buy toys” was actually true. I want my livingroom back 😂
My best friend is still pissed that they canceled Sym-Bionic Titan because of the lack of merchandizing potential
I’m still salty that Green Lantern The Animated Series was cancelled for similar reasons
God I loved sym-bionic titan
I'm also still salty over that. It's been so many years and my heart still aches to know where that show would have gone.
I don’t even understand why there would be lack of merchandizing potential???? There’s literally giant robots, wouldn’t be that hard to make toys and shirts outta that.
Don't tell him about SWAT Cats
The only reality show that has any business being on Cartoon Network is Total Drama.
I agree 100%.
That being said, Total Dramarama is shit.
Ironic how Total Drama came out as a parody of reality tv at the same time the network it aired on experimented with reality tv
If you meet people that are arrogant enough to ignore the flaws in their actions, you can indirectly mock them without a care, and they will still greenlit your show to air and make them tons of money.
@@MaximizedAnimation That's not ironic. That's kinda the opposite of irony.
They should’ve made more like that.
I'm so sad that you didn't talk about hole in the wall, that was like the only live action Cartoon Network show I kind of enjoyed
I just remembered that omg! I remember it was a game show in Japan that they adopted for CN
Omg what a classic
Game shows are generally easier to fit alongside cartoons, since they have a goofier nature to them. It's like how there was a lot of game shows on Nickelodeon, like Guts, Legends of the Hidden Temple, or Double Dare 2000, but you can't really compare those to the live-action sitcoms around the same time. The closest would be Figure it Out, but that's more because it shared a lot of the same actors from All That.
@@munromister777 that's true, I just meant I was never compelled to watch any of the other live action ones like Destroy Build Destroy, I remember the ads for it but I don't really remember watching it
Was that specific to CN though? I remember it airing on like Fox or something
At this time in CN history I was poor and living in a crackhouse as a kid and they had just stopped FlapJack and Chowder to do this. Ruined my childhood more then the living standards did lol
I’m very sorry to hear about that I hope you have better living standards now
Bro, isn’t that a tad dramatic?
holy fuck
@@onlyone23kmbro he literally only had cartoons to keep him company and they ganked them
@@colethewolfboy I’m beginning to think this guy isn’t even telling the truth about it all.
* Someone at the Netflix DVD warehouse * "Who is this guy that keep ordering stuff, I'm trying to nap here!"
In the depths of the Netflix office lies Him. He who guards the ancient relict of the company's past. He who has survived longer then any mortal that roams the halls of the upper floors, and will be there when you are but dust. He lurks, waiting... Waiting for the first order in 20 years.
@@plantain.1739 I’m liking this lore.
@@plantain.1739 They have top men working on it right now.
Pumpactionmusket but who?
@@jac_238 TOP.
MEN.
"the lack of copies comes not from obscurity, but complete and total ambivalence" sums it up pretty well. I remember being so shocked when i found out that the majority of Out of Jimmy's Head is lost media, because there was definitely a considerable window of time that the show was an active part of CN's schedule that could have allowed for it to be recorded and archived by viewers. but practically no one in the world cared enough to do that. insane.
(also super nice eric andre show nod at 25:06)
It feels SUPER weird for shows I watched on TV every week to now be lost media.
That's also true of many other general purpose shows, such as news segments, weather forecast, TV listings. The more ambivalent an audience is of some thing's existence, the less instances of archived material there is.
@@midnightsuspensetheater1356 what feels weird to me is how much of the internet content I watched is now impossible to find. (Channel awesome Stuff that wasn’t Doug Noel Lindsey or Lewis) that completely disappeared from the internet when blip died. I still wish I could find the still gaming side video about baseball card collecting because it’s still the best thing I ever saw that explains the speculator, collectors item bubble, market of the 90’s and how thinking you’re dumb 1in 100 third relaunch of punisher variant Cover 3 comic you cherish as going to be worth something someday is never going to be worth anything. Because unlike something relevant to collectors history like a Mickey mantle rookie card, action comics 1 or the boba fett toy with the rocket launcher backpack. And you were sold speculation of a future collectors market as a means to drive sales
@@brandonporter8509 There is so much lost media from Channel Awesome that it's really upsetting. Some of them may never be reuploaded because the producer long since lost or deleted the original copy to save room on their digital storage and no one has a copy of it.
Heck, it could even happen to you. I have a video I made with an old camcorder as a teenager I was proud of that is forever lost to time because someone decided to record over it with footage of their dog running in a backyard and all of my early writing when I started to get into the hobby is lost because I used a program that was discontinued and was incompatible with Word and LibreOffice.
Ah the "point the camera at the TV" card. This whole thing is just a nostalgic trip back to 09'
The kid going “HYEEAAAHHH” after saying his dad is Lil Jon had me crying he didnt have to do all that XD
That “hit by a train” sequence in Re-Animated is just *chef’s kiss*.
Sonic hitting a bumper in the Genesis games had less bounce/recoil than that. It's so WEIRD yo...
“Girls don’t buy toys”
Apparently that was also the reason they cancelled Young Justice, since it attracted female viewers.
Nah, both the lack of merchandise sales and lack of people actually watching meant the end for Young Justice. Critically acclaimed, but not well-viewed
because FUCK viewership!
@@ooonyxxx Low viewing figures is what tends to happen when the network decides to dick around with the schedule like CN did.
Same thing for symbionic titan and I’m sure as well as thundercats (2011).
I just feel that if toy deals weren’t happening, they didn’t know what to do with some of their amazingly written action shows. 🙃
Greg Weidman has stated Young Justice was cancelled solely sue to low you sales. People misinterpreted Paul Dini's statement about Tower Prep's cancellation and applied it to Young Justice.
Who else here remembers seeing both Reanimated and Out of Jimmy's head when they first premiered , cause I sure do .
They made a huge deal about both! I watched the first episode and no others
I wasn’t allowed to watch it because it was real life ( i was 6 or 7 LOL) but I remember the ads
I remember watching the movie live while they were doing a cash giveaway.
I remember thinking the premise of Out of Jimmy's Head was the dumbest thing ever ("brain transplant??? what???") and never managed to get into it because of that
I do and I also remember that by 2007 standards, it was bad.
I might be wrong, but I swear I remember there was an episode of Dude What Would Happen where they where like “What would happen if caveman could write?” And they just dressed a dude up in a caveman costume and told him to write, and lost their shit when he did.
Tower Prep was a legitimately good show, and the fact that it got cancelled after 1 season, leaving _all_ of its mysteries unanswered, simply because the CN executives somehow actually believed "girls don't buy toys" has been absolutely infuriating me for years.
How the hell does that even make sense? A lot of the most popular toy brands are targeted at girls
they must have known it was a good show too. it's sad that a show has to go just cause it can't sell toys
I feel like if it was say on MTV or the CW another channel more suited for teen dramas like that, the show would’ve been more successful
Fuck I thought I imagined that show. It was one of the few shows I tuned into every week. Damn shame, I was invested
I don't think any Tower Prep toys were made anyway.
“Sorry dude it’s Wednesday night I can’t hangout, I think there’s a new Destroy Build Destroy tonight” - I said this at some point in my life.
It's ok if they didn't understand, they didn't deserve your friendship.
From my memory, CN Real eventually wasn't just a block, but seemed to take over most of the day. This was a major disappointment to me as an animation fan, especially because Cartoon Network was my favorite station for my entire childhood. I abandoned Cartoon Network at that time cuz it seemed to only have the live-action stuff.
Personally, I feel Adventure Time was what started the Cartoon Network Renaissance and started the process to get away from CN Real. I came back to Cartoon Network because of it and the shows that followed. I will say that the huge success of that and Steven Universe worked together, though, with their merch sales to convince the execs to go back to the network's roots.
I feel you for that. I literally remeber coming home at one point and incredible crew was on and multiple love action shows were on so long that it seemed like it really lasted the whole part of the day when i was home until maybe something in the middle or something that was animated would come on, then it'd go right back to live action. I went through phases with different channels, disney, nickelodeon, and cartoon network but i was trying to hold on to cn, but at some point i started watching Disney shows again during that time.
And you're so right about adventure time, im surprised he said Steven universe instead. I do remember being excited for Steven universe so much, but i think they already had some more animated shows before SU that weren't horrifically bad (ughhh besides things like mystery solverz *shudders*).
Yeah I remember I'd come home from school and I'd be able to watch like the last half of KND and then CNReal would start up and I'd just go watch real mythbusters instead. I did like out of jimmy's head but nobody seems to remember it
@@whatif3271 i was surprised too! adventure time came out a good three years prior to steven universe, and it was rebecca sugar really took off too. her episodes tended to always be fan favorites in early at.
I completely stopped watching TV around this time because up until then I was really only watching CN cartoons anymore and a lot of the shows I watched on Disney and Nickelodeon were ending/had already ended. I missed so many good cartoons because I'm just out of the habit of watching TV anymore, though I did catch some of them as reruns miles down the line.
I did merch for Andrew WK a few years back. Nice guy, pretty weird, clearly VERY burnt out by performing so much enthusiasm on his weird motivational speech tour. Still didn’t stop him from being a super super nice guy to everyone he came in contact with.
Destroy Build Destroy was actually ok. It just didn’t belong on Cartoon Network.
I think that is the problem with alot of these shows, they were genuinely good, they just didn't belong on cartoon network.
@@gortrobot578 I still think these shows were too much of ripoffs like he said, like I specifically remember watching DBD and going "Wait, isn't this just Junkyard Wars?"
When I watched that show as a kid, I had no idea Andrew WK was an actual musician.
In actuality the scripted shows were really good as well. The natural history one was a fun romp even if it was just a rebranded Warehouse 13. And Tower prep was seeping with mystery and just begging for a deep lore exploration.
@@ryanmassey1441 I actually liked Tower Prep. Such a shame it was canceled.
I remembered "Dude, What Would Happen?" and "Destroy, Build, Destroy". But the moment you mentioned "Level Up", I had f*cking Vietnam War-esque flashback.
I don´t remember how old I was when Level Up aired but I remember loving that show.
I don't remember watching that show but i do remember the promos, and that i avoided it. I probably watched one episode and never watched it again
dude i read a creepypasta of level up LMAO
for me it was Incredible Crew.
is it bad I liked quite a bit of the mediocre shows? xD I remember level up, dude what would happen, hole in the wall, and destroy build destroy very fondly. I think at the time I recognized that they were kinda bad but grew to love them anyway because I didn’t like much else what was on TV. I vividly remember one of the bumpers for the TV show Level Up and it had one of the main actors talking about one of their favorite bands, Artic Monkeys. I still flashback to that bumper every now and then when Artic Monkeys is mentioned.
Hey there! I worked at the studio from 2005-2010, so I can add in my a few extra opinions/bits of background.
The rebranding: Yes, they were looking for pitches that still somehow involved animation. I pitched the idea of a show that followed different episodes being made from storyboard to final edit leading up to the presentation of the actual episode. Never got picked up.
The writers strike did affect Jimmy's head. However, most of the writers /board artists were covered by local 839, not the WGA. The big turning point was the Boston / Aqua teen bomb scare. Jim Samples took the fall and the Stu Snyder/ Rob Sorcher duo took over. They wanted live action because yes it was cheaper (and faster) to make. Most shows don't work on the turn around time south park has. Sometimes it takes years to see a first episode. Live action was greenlit in droves and tons of people on the animation got laid off (myself included).
It's sad how many people never went back to the field after the layoffs. I transitioned to making puppets, doctoring scripts and freelance (most recently I broke into video game writing) but other people who were incredibly talented had to turn to retail or government jobs, just to finally have job security. (Working in animation means always hustling for your next gig.) Some people were able to join Hasbro's studio back when it was up and running, but the glut of people looking for jobs was bad. With streaming platforms making originalcontentover the years has helped some peoplecome back, others are gone for good. It's a real shame, honestly.
Yeah ngl I was hoping Quinton would reference the ATHF bomb scare because it’s a highly contained incident from a hindsight perspective that shook up so so much within Cartoon Network.
Thank you for reminding/informing people of that incident!
I didn't think about the ATHF bomb scare affecting it, but that makes a lot of sense actually.
@@flyingbodysymphony I read below after posting. Someone else mentioned it, too. 👍 The timing was weird because we had all almost forgotten about it when we had everyone together for a meeting down the street at the AMC they rented out (no place in house could hold everyone.)
They ran a clip of Snyder talking to the employees from corporate from Atlanta. He used so many sports analogies, most people were super lost. Then he talked about Sorcher coming over from Mad Men, and I think that's when everyone got a sense of "Oh, no. This doesn't bode well."
@@finnsullivan Some people called them "The light brites that killed careers."
@@MakerHighSchool hahaha
I remember when I was about 9 or 10 I was apart of some early test screening for the shows destroy build destroy, and dude what would happen. I sat in a small theatre-esque room with about 15-20 other kids, and watched the shows first episodes. we had a small dial on the arm chair of where we were sitting, and the number we gave was attached to our names so the people running the whole thing knew which kids didn’t like and did like this show. after the screening was over we were lead into offices where we sat and talked to people about our scores, and when I was asked why I gave it a zero, I said “It’s not a cartoon” (we all knew it was going on cartoon network)
that’s such a cool experience and also, your response was hilarious lol
I was there too and I said the same thing
You are a hero and a mega GigaChad. The savior of Cartoon Network
Based kid
People don’t always go to Burger King for burgers. Does Cartoon Network always have to have cartoons and nothing but?
Me at the beginning of the video: "Hey! I liked CN Real!"
Me, minutes later: "Wait, there were more shows than just Dude, What Would Happen and Destroy Build Destroy? Since when?!"
I am from South America and I just knew about CN Real thanks to MAD parody of Destroy Build Destroy
Then I discovered why
It was mid morning programs here in South America, time which I was at school xD
I feel about the same. Dude What Would Happen was so chaotic and fun and I really wanted to be on Destroy Build Destroy as a kid. Fun stuff, especially when I was 10
Oh, you don't remember the weird ghost hunting show?
@@azathoththe3rd Not really. I only vaguely remembered it while watching this video.
@@TheMovieBuff96 looking back it was horrifically faked. I always wonder where CN even find these kids to do these shows
The “Dude What Would Happen?” Haiti PSA was on TV for longer than the show
I saw that poster ad in my local mall years after the show tanked.
@@Thobeian A historic monument
I remember the bullying one too! I think that one also lasted longer than the show!
@@mangopotato1803 Same
I think just as much Steven Universe, Adventure Time's runaway success also killed CN Real
Pretty sure CN Real would've died anyways. The shows had crappy ratings even before SU and AT were a thing. If not for those new cartoons, though, I imagine the network would've just died entirely.
Teen titans go premiered after that? Because we know that is CN's golden egg's chicken
Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gumball were the brave saviors that ended the Dark Age of CN. Unfortunately, we’ve come to a new age where CN only values shows that sell for cheap like TTG like Spongebob was for Nickelodeon. It’s a shame how the animators that actually try to put on a good show only get cut by the network because it doesn’t try to replicate the energy from their top show.
@@Puerco-Potter Which one? The good one started in 2003.
I think even moreso, because Adventure Time not only predates Steven Universe but it gave Rebecca Sugar the notoriety she needed to pitch the show.
Honestly impressed that you managed to make the premise of Re-Animated sound coherent. That movie is batshit. It took me until like 20 minutes into the film to realize that I wasn't watching an extended opening dream sequence.
Yeah, when I was a teen I just stared at my TV wondering what the hell I was looking at.
"Dude what would happen if we explored our sexuality and became a wholesome gay couple."
@brmbly hahah whip it out bro
Haha you are epic.
Haha dude what if...unless 👀
@brmbly l e t
h i m
j o i n
@brmbly "dude just say 'no homo', automatically not gay"
quuuuiiiiitttonnnn you didn't talk about "hole in the wall" quinton, now you must make an entire video about it
YES, HE MUST
I was wondering when Hole in the Wall was gonna come up!!
hole in the wall died too soon
I actually completely forgot about Hole in The Wall...
to be fair, was it a CN produced show?
Oh who am I kidding, it's imported. Nobody cares about imported shows.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone use the word “recent” to describe Chowder.
he's not a animation guy like pan pizza or saberspark, chowder is technically recent to him because he doesnt watch whats on the network now
Haha same.
@@zumby101
Ok, and?
Doesn't make it a recent success or anything like that still.
Ed, Edd, and Eddy still feels relatively recent to me, but I'm a 30-year-old boomer. I can see where he's coming from.
Much like Sonic fans saying Sonic Boom was "recent". Like, yes, but actually no.
"Girls don't buy toys"
Barbie and My Little Pony: Are we a joke to you
not to mention, pokémon (aka the HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD) has a very, very large female fanbase. lol.
I REMEMBER THIS HAPPENING AS A KID.
I legit remember being a kid and just not caring about cartoon network for the longest time after that.
Me too lol, I didn't come back to the channel until Adventure Time and Regular Show were already going
I remember catching an episode of "Dude, What Would Happen?" one day and going "Wait a minute.......this is just Mythbusters but if the hosts were what a bunch of corporate suits thought teenagers are like"
It was still epic regardless imo
Pretty much. But I ate it up when I was 8 or 10 anyways
mythbusters if the hosts were friends
It's so weird for me seeing everyone compare this to Mythbusters, as I never thought to make that comparison. I always considered it a 2009 spiritual successor to Zoom.
Nickelodeon y Disney chanel: hagamos otra copia de Zoey 101 y Drake y Josh
Cartoon network:copiemonos de cazadores de mitos
It's weird. I remember another live action Cartoon Network show that wasn't mentioned here. A game show called Hole in the Wall, which I'm pretty sure was an adaptation of a Japanese game show.
Yep
It was even paroddied in MAD
@@jesusramirezromo2037 Also Reference in American Dad.
I remember dat. It was a gud sho
Somehow I specifically remember being at someone else's house and specifically watching hole in the wall. Not as good as "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, I punch your face."
He said it's rare to find the shows so he didn't see
I laughed when Zoey 101 was included in the low-budget live action references just that was actually one of the most expensive live action shows Nickelodeon has ever made
Quinton should do a 10 hour series on Zoey 101
oof it didn't seem expensive lol
Probably only because it wasn’t filmed on a soundstage lmao
@@ya9ya10Exactly that
The lack of cheap live-action shows was the reason I always loved Cartoon Network over Nick or Disney. CN Real was the worst thing to ever happen to CN.
True, Cartoon Network focus on the quality of their cartoons as well. Even in Cartoon Network’s dark age, there were at least shows on the network that were worth watching (Flapjack and Chowder are the shows I’m referencing to). The last good shows that I really liked on Nickelodeon were My Life as A Teenage Robot and Invader Zim (anything shows that came out after My Life as A Teenage Robot on Nickelodeon were shit). I never really watched Disney.
I miss the era of Disney Channel having cartoons
I still can't believe that ""READY TO DIE"", by Andrew WK was the main theme for CN at the time. Really shows how they wanted you to feel while watching their programs at the time.....
Surprised they didn't go with Party Hard, tbh.
@@kobalt_ren01 I'm trying to remember though if they used that song at any point. Even if it was just for one ad to promote the block that night. I feel like they did, but probably am wrong.
I'll never forget the first time i came across DWWH completely by accident. The premise of the episode was "what would happen if we popped the world's biggest zit?" And ended with a Volkswagen Beetle full of ranch dressing being dropped from a crane.
The 2010's were wild.
Wait, wasn't their another CN real show where people try to fit in a hole in a slow moving wall?
Hole in the wall
DRRR DRRR
If you search "Human Tetris" you can find the Japanese show they were imitating. There were attempts to make versions of that all over the world, except I think the Japanese version was just a segment on a larger game show about absurd challenges.
It makes no sense to try to turn it into a whole weekly half hour program. But they did!
@@helloofthebeach It goes further. The American version hole in the wall originally aired on Fox and was meant for an adult audience having adults on the show and more mature humor. The show flopped on fox so it only lasted like literally a few episodes until it was picked up by cartoon network and marketed to kids.
@@kkamau5479 BRUH I REMEMBER HOLE IN THE WALL!
I find it hilarious that OK K.O. ran a crossover episode with Sonic the Hedgehog and Tails...
And then it’s cancellation was announced like a week later
💀
Cancelation? I thought it just naturally ended its run?
@@HamazuraGOD Well, let say that OK K.O was ended early/rushed by CN
It's all that damn hedgehogs fault
@@soullessprincess6473 the sad part about that is the crossover episode gave CN the highest TV viewing they'd had in years and they STILL canceled OKKO. They were gonna do Sailor Moon, Mega Man, and Sabrina the Teenaged Witch crossovers too.
Shouts out to Andrew WK, he made my summer rad that year when nothing was going on.
I heard he's a really cool guy in real life.
Hell yeah! Destroy, Build, Destroy
Before he shot himself in the foot.
@@saininj Narrator: he mugged a 60-year-old man in 2012
@@saininj Narrator: he mugged a 60-year-old man in 2012
I vividly remember that in the Reanimated movie, Jimmy’s love interest was Asian, but in the show she was black, and I’m pretty sure they were suppose to be the same character
Youre right and they were. For some reason.
the earliest memory i have of live action content being hosted on cartoon network was their friday block that started in 2003 that was hosted by tommy and nzinga (who was later replaced by tara). i seem to remember them doing skits and stuff (theres one that sticks out in my head of either nzinga or tara running after a car and seeing her in a side view mirror and the mirror saying "nzinga/tara in the mirror is closer than they appear). i know that technically it wasn't full shows with dedicated blocks in the programming, and it was more filler and transitional material between shows, but it was still a weekly "event" hosted by real people on cartoon network, and i remember it really blew my mind at the time that there were real people being shown on cartoon network (and also i could stay up late watching shows before adult swim came on)
However, the difference is that at least they were done as wraparounds, and some puppetry was used. Not to mention that Carton Cartoon Fridays, the previous block was just recycling it's segments over and over. With Fridays, there was always something new every week.
hi mr. anus i'm a big fan
Holy shit
I remember that
I remember they had human hosts and had the animated characters host, but I don't remember the order they happened. In hindsight though I feel like it was cartoons first, people second. But I definitely enjoyed that!
Oh shit! I remember that. I always looked forward to that event on Fridays and then the stuff that came after it.
Why is no one talking about the fact that Winston from New Girl hosted Brain Rush
I knew he looked familiar!
Me and mom loved that show. 🤯
Because it sucked and I didn't watch it or care to find out about it's cast.
Probably because not many people talk about New Girl.
Cause all of us want to repress the memories of CN real
CN Real's run can be summed up in three words:
Destroy, build, destroy.
nah you can do two:
andrew w.k.
@@spicygoddess2374 that's also three words
@@TackyRackyComixNEO .....damn u right 😂😂
@@spicygoddess2374 One word,
Why?
One sentence:
_"Party, Party, Party, I wanna have a party, I need to have a party, you better have a party, party party party, you gotta party hardy, you better have a party, or else you will be sorry!"_
4:48 can we just appreciate how hilariously bad this clip from the Re-Animated movie is? Kid runs up to a train going 0.5 MPH, gets launched 30 feet in the air, and you can tell how horribly green-screened it was done
I do want to say it was more Adventure Time than Steven Universe that kicked off CN’s new golden era. AT was MASSIVELY popular from 2010-2015. It was everywhere, it was cn’s baby for a good while until teen titans go came out.
Just always irks me a bit that because adventure time died down in popularity in its later years (though it was still VERY good), that people seem to have forgotten its impact. It kicked the era of “slice of life that becomes more mature and darker as it goes on” that steven universe and star vs thrived in. Seems just a little unfair to AT to give the credit to SU when steven universe likely wouldn’t have existed without it. It’s where Rebeca Sugar started becoming popular as storyboard artist in the first place.
Ya know, you’re right and I’m sick of people over glorifying Stevens Universe, when that show would more than likely have never been a thing if Adventure Time and Regular Show didn’t fix CN
Without Flapjack, Adventure Time, Regular Show and Steven Universe wouldn’t exist since Flapjack is where Adventure Time’s creator and Regular Show’s creator got there start.
That combo of Adventure Time and Regular Show around the same time, COMPLETELY revived CN, and I say that as someone who was in their core demographic back then, lol
@@michaelbolcato192 Fuck man you’re right bro
@@michaelbolcato192 Also Alex Hirsch (the creator of Gravity Falls) also got his start on flapjack
"Dude what would happen if we committed mass arson"
"OH MY GOD THE COPS CAME"
"Sick"
Dont worry, were professionals.
ACAB
lol I almost pissed my pants when I read that comment
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Dude what would happen was rude loud and obnoxiously annoying
I always wondered what happened to these shows, almost seemed like a fever dream. Tbh I miss those two guys in the C and N box costumes
Corey Kennada BRUH SAMEEEE
I feel like it would have been less harmful to society in general if, in response to the writer's strike, the networks just filled the shows with nothing but the actors screaming, hooting, moaning, and making other assorted mouth noises. Or, you know, actually paying their writers what their labor was worth.
“I like to walkie talkies because it makes me feel like I’m in a war.”
*seven nation army slowly fades in*
i really thought Quinton would say something about how questionable that comment was. lmao. tbh i had to constantly remind my nephews that people die and kill in wars because they only think about what toy companies sell them , aka cool outfits, vehicles and guns.
There's two live action things I'd be okay with seeing on CN; Shows going backstage documenting how cartoons are made, and a Mythbusters-esc show where they try stuff cartoons do in real life to see if, for example, you can really slip on banana peels etc.
...the idea being that both would tie into cartoons in the end.
That requires writing. ☺️
*and who wants good writing?*
That’s how to do it The Burkiss Way!
@@wolfbones666 Not really. Documentary content doesn't require actual TV writers, just producers and editors- just like realty TV. But that's too high brow.
His dad is actually Lil' Jon, that's insane.
crazy to me that destroy build destroy is just as hard to find than the rest. it was always the one i remembered as actually enjoyable
Oh boy, Destroy Build Destroy
Don’t give me flashbacks
Hey, I actually liked that one!
[flashbacks to the cuban government]
The CN's _girls don't buy toys_ approach cancelled Green Lantern The Animated Series and it was phenomenal! It sadly was not liked by preteen boys but had a lot of female fans that were teenagers or in their early twenties, _and the toys sucked so no one was buying_ . The series was really really good, it's one of my absolute favorites, but sadly - there's only one season...
AND DUDE NINJAGO IS ALSO PRETTY GOOD how dare you insult it like that Quinton... my emotional support show, how dare you. Despite everything, It's actually pretty good xD
Same thing happened to Young Justice! A huge portion of its fanbase was teenage/20 year oldish girls, which apparently isn’t as a worthwhile audience as the most beloved target audience 7-11 year old boys.
@@finnsword8286 when I was 8 year old and that show was airing I thought it was coolest shit ever, I also now realize that Kid Flash and Zatanna on that show is what made me realize I was bisexual, which is cool.
The whole “girls don’t buy toys” thing isn’t the real why those shows were canceled.
What really happened to Green Lantern the animated series was that the show was meant to market the 2011 Green Lantern starring Ryan Reynolds. And bc the movie was a critical and financial failure, it caused the animated series to be canceled.
For Young Justice, it was bc of toys but it was just girls who didn’t buy them it was boys as well as the company Mattel who makes the toys and publish them did not promote the toys nor the network itself. In other words, people had no idea that the toys exist bc they were barely promoted.
But bro they milked the hell of ninjago it ended to me at the character design change i watched 8 seasons and they were good but after that nah
@@ahmadalaqib8148 indeed, I feel like the second season where they finally defeated Lord Gurmendon, which then cured Lloyd’s dad should have been the final chapter. Everything after that felt like they were just dragging the series
“Girls don’t buy toys.”
Barbie: Am I a joke to you?!
Dini's rant was a lie, Tower Prep was doing terrible overall, barely averaging a million viewers when the network's most popular shows were doing double that.
It's such a dumb thing to believe in. Pokemon, Barbie, and Hello Kitty make so much money because of their female buying power that they're so ingrained with the culture of so many countries.
@Dont Matter "Pokemon is not for girls" I'm not sure you wanna go saying that ... there are plenty of female Pokemon fans that love the franchise and have grown up with it.
What’re you getting so defensive for? Take a chill pill dude
I remember that exact same excuse being used to explain why Young Justice was originally canceled. It baffled me even then.
Nothing was a bigger slap in the face then watching the "Final Five Foster's episodes" marathon with ads for CN Real being played over and over during every break.
Yeah, Cartoon Network was never really good at handling finales to their shows. Still pissed off about how they handled Samurai Jack series finale at the time in the early 2000s, how they handled Toonami's cancellation and Foster's series finale. They handled Ed, Edd and Eddy series finale well tho. 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
@@angrybeaver4995 This was also the case with Regular Show but this time due to the addiction that was Teen Titans Go.
I won't tolerate Quinton slandering Ninjago like this
Me either!
@@jackiegonzalez6814 zane didn't die for this!!!
@@bardolphers3003 I know! 🥺🥺🥺💔✨🤍
Same, I loved that show as a kid. (Also apparently it's still airing.)
@@bardolphers3003 *dramatic sad orchestra*
ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
Y’know if Out Of Jimmy’s Head was JUST a kid who could see cartoons in real life, it might’ve been okay. But then the had the *brilliant* idea to have an alien sister... And that just pushed it too far.
& I remember the mom was an astronaut (hence the sister) & ALWAYS wore the space suit around the house
So that brings up the question... Was she adopted, or did mom have her before meeting Jimmy's dad or what?
@@jtm-inc2912 she was adopted, not only cause shes refered to as older sister, they openly mention that in the movie or one of the episodes
Okay then. Thanks for the info.
The biggest take away I have from this era was tower prep had a bit where they used "you're gonna go far kid" as scoring music and I was like "this says fuck in it what the hell"
That was such a dark age for CN. I remember thinking it may never go back to what it once was.
"Hey guys! You know that art form that our network is built entirely around and is what our audience comes to us for and expects? Let's do the opposite of that! We'll make millions!"
I mean both Disney and Nick were and Disney at least still is raking In cash with live action
@@PersephoneDarling28 Very true but neither of them have "cartoon" in their names.
@@PersephoneDarling28 And Disney have made movies for a while, so it's not really a surprise.
@@PersephoneDarling28 Yes but their brands weren't tied to 1 type of media. Disney had live action movies for decades and Nick always had live action shows prior to it's 80s renaming. It'd be like if Food Network started a sports block, sure there's a huge market for sportsball but not on that network.
Stay in your lane Cartoon Network....unless it's Space Ghost Coast to Coast and Adult Swim then no rules apply.
Destroy Build Destroy was honestly the only show I cared about.
I hate to say it, but same. Destroying vehicles and materials, building a vehicle out of those materials, then destroying the loser's vehicle was cool.
Same here. Just mindlessly demolishing and blowing shit up is just so satisfying to watch. Better than all of Michael Bay's explosions for sure.
I liked hole in the wall, and I did watch incredible crew sometimes.
DUDE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
@@whatif3271 I remember only laughing at the pilot for incredible crew lol
It's so weird to see them be like, "We're popular with the wrong audience."
Like, you can't find SOMETHING to market to people other than stereotypical toys for boys?
Like, teens can irresponsibly spend THEIR OWN money, they don't have to rely on begging parents for it.
Ah man, Tower Prep was fucking awesome. I am still heartbroken it was canceled. Really great example of a fantastic show being aired on the wrong station. It could have easily been at home on CW (I think it was still WB at that time) or ABC Family.
honestly, i wouldn’t be mad if it came back as like a book series or something. there was so much potential there
What was it about? That looked like a show to me as a kid that would be shit imo.
@@Nitrodino7875 Its basically about a secret school that abducts kids with powers. For what purpose we never found out. And the powers aren't like large scale comic hero powers, but smaller stuff, like one guy has the ability to react to things to split second ahead of time, one girl has empathic abilities. It focuses on the four main characters trying to figure out why they are at the school and escape it. It was surprisingly good, just aired on the wrong network. Would have been right at home on like CW or ABC Family/Freeform.
Level Up and Unnatural History was nice, too.
no fucking way, i totally forgot that Bobb'e kid went to my middle school when that show was airing. He was constantly ditching class and doing wild shit. He did could do backflips and would do it often, and also got in at least one fight. He was there for less than a month i believe, good times.
There were only 2 cartoons on at the time: the marvelous misadventures of flapjack, and chowder.
I honestly get the feeling that most kids nowadays are gonna remember Andrew Wk for stuff like Destroy build destroy and the ready to die song found in the cupcakes video , whether that's a good thing or not is up for you to decide.
That's exactly where I first found the song years ago when I was like...11. Nowadays I actually like the song and I don't even think about Cupcakes HD anymore.
Somewhere in the world, some guy who watched Destroy Build Destroy as a kid is discovering Andrew W.K's party music for the first time, and that's a beautiful thing.
get out of my head, that's exactly what I remember him for.
I’m 19 and have no idea who Andrew WK is outside of being the dude from destroy build destroy.
I only know him from the party party party song from that one episode of aqua teen hunger force.
Cartoon Network's idea that "girls don't buy toys" has gotten other shows canceled too. The most infamous example of this is when Cartoon Network cancelled "Young Justice."
I think you mean Symbiotic Titan. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@@angrybeaver4995 No, Symbiotic Titan's problem was that they just COULDN'T get a toy line started due to the recession at the time.
@@averagejoe5145 Well, technically Young Justice isn't cancelled when they still have new seasons coming out on HBO Max, I don't know🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@angrybeaver4995 That's just an example of the parent company yanking their IP away from one subsidiary & giving it to another.
Weirdly enough, the block never aired in Latin America but I remember how Destroy Build Destroy (and maybe Dude what would happen) was shown during the weekend early in the morning probably as filler
yeah man, I saw them in Mexico, I remember watching Destroy Build Destroy, Dude What Would Happen, and Level Up.
Okay, did my Brian just collapsed or wasn't "la CQ" In cartoon network
@@ramirosilvaalmeida6768 yeah I´m almost sure it did, I remember watching an episode of it, then an episode of Teen Titans Go aired.
The only live action show I remember watching in my country's CN was Mr. Young, had no idea there were others
@@ramirosilvaalmeida6768 yeah idk why but I watched it and it was weirdly fun but that must be the nostalgia talking
I can't believe you went through the list of Disney Channel sitcoms and didn't mention Phil of the Future.
That show is so underrated #justiceforPhiloftheFuture
What is that
@@irisaferg2524 One of the cooler sitcoms. At least to me.
Quinton: "in 2020. All i can think is.."
Ad: *Someone plucking their violin for a sauce commercial*
I'd love to see your style of analysis taken to literally any media surrounding sonic the hedgehog
That Andrew WK advert didn’t say “party” once.
I know right? Like, why even get him in the first place if they're not going to let him head bang and go completely insane?
At least the opening to Ready to Die was playing in the background for all of one second
Party tip
in the entire show's run andrew WK doesn't profusely bleed from his face once.
@@sparkpenguin again, why even get Andrew WK if they're not gonna use him?
CN Real, also knows as "The time as a kid I realized that I hate cable TV and no longer want it"
I arrived from the iCarly stuff. I’ve seen your stuff floating around but never caught my eye. After finishing The End of Victorious I fell in love with your content. You literally may be my favorite.
17:37 Man, your analysis on Ghost Adventures is absolutely spot on. My brother and I were glued to it, watching every episode in the darkness. I remember my Dad kind of teased us that it was fake while walking by, and I got so mad like "Dad, this is real! This is important!" Now I watch it and cringe. Also we filmed are own versions of Ghost Adventures where my brother would film me talking to Ghost using a tape-recorder.
Unrelated side note: We'd call the main guy Zak Douche-Bagans.
I used to love Ghost Adventures until I found TH-cam, the horror itch was consistently scratched by quality content
I used to turn on CN exclusively for CN Real and then turn it off when the cartoons came on as a kid because I didn't connect with cartoons at all. this is strange because now I have trouble focusing on any media that isn't animated
same but the opposite
I hope you watched the old CN cartoons now
@@navarroguard7911 oh definitely