Week 5: Plumbing, Overflows, and Return Pumps | 52 Weeks of Reefing
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- It's Week 5 of 52 Weeks of Reefing, and this week we are plumbing the #BRS160! This week we are going to talk about the four types of overflows, give you some tips on installing a custom overflow including drilling the glass, various plumbing pieces, return pumps and then plumb our Reef Savvy Ghost Overflow to the sump.
An overflow is used to get water from the aquarium safely down to the sump and they come in a few different types. Your typical reef ready tank comes with an overflow already installed, you can buy a hang on overflow or install a custom overflow for standard or non-reef ready tanks.
There are three main ways to plumb your overflow, all of which are designed to help make it silent, safe and prevent gurgling. All three are named after the reefer who made it popular with the Durso, Herbie and Bean Animal.
The Durso standpipe uses a single overflow standpipe with a vent hole and adjustable air valve in the top. This allows you to fine tune a small amount of air into the overflow. Without the air vent the pipe would pull a full siphon which will continually start and stop with a ton of really loud gurgling.
Hobbyists have worked to further improve on that to make it safer and even quieter with the Herbie overflow . The Herbie uses two overflows; a primary and an emergency. Rather than use air to control the water like the Durso does it uses a gate valve to fine tine the flow of water to a complete siphon with no air getting sucked in which basically makes it completely silent. The second emergency overflow is required just in case something like a fish, snail or chunk of algae gets sucked into the main overflow and reduces flow.
To step that up one more notch the bean animal combines both of these together to achieve something that is ultra silent , ultra safe and really easy to tune. The bean animal uses a gate valve on the primary overflow, a secondary stability overflow with a hole drilled in it which is capable of accounting for small fluctuations in water flow while never creating a full siphon, and an emergency overflow which will handle the water it something happens to the other two. The bean animal is really the gold standard these days and what most of us want to use if we can.
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Going back I would change out the rigid braided tubing for PVC. I think I was just very excited in the beginning and it seemed like the easiest option.
Using soft black tubing as a return hose was my saving grace. It's so soft, maliable and easy to work with.
PVC tubing is definately way more aesthetically pleasing.
Also making a note of the Bean Animal 4:50, I come back often and I have drilled my own tanks in the past a lot. I've always planned on drilling out something big, but this makes me feel like I could do it in the most ideal way.
Awesome, can't wait for the next episode! Great job...
The BRS updates are a highlight of my week. Great video and I'm looking forward to the next one!
Love Brstv. Hey Spears Manufacturing makes thousands of fittings no kidding. I work there and seriously they can make any fittings known to man and probably more than I know. Top notch fittings. 👌
Great tutorial, gives a lot of advice and choices. Thank you.
Thank you for producing this video, very well done!
I really like the look of the blue and gray plumbing. It looks really clean.
I am really enjoying these videos. Keep them coming.
Nice job explaining the different types of over flow methods and how they relate to one another; in addition to a concise overview of plumbing do's and don'ts. Great reference for the Ghost Overflow, just ordered one myself for my next build, can't wait to set it up!
Probably the cleanest plumbing job I've ever seen.. I've watched this video in particular 3 times for some reason
I hate to complain but one video a week is simply not enough. Step it up guys! :) Seriously, I love the series and look forward to my Friday wind down while watching the series.
Really liking this build so far..
Just plumed my first sump on my 60 gallon cube :) Scary!!
Good series guys!! Keep it up!
very informative ...I feel very comfortable about starting my reef tank I've been a fresh water (Cichlids) for 20 yrs.
Learned some new things about hard plumbing. The plumbing turned out great and looks very sleek.
Wicked series guys , I have a 180 gal tank sitting in my lounge room ,EMPTY, so I plan on following the build step by step so I reckon I will have one awesome tank when its done
thanks again for the vids , best reefing vids EVA !!
Thank for all the info! This video helped me a lot
Great info!
WELL DONE, VERY PROFESSIONAL.
You guys are so helpful, NZ
Awesome Video! Thank You!
Thanks for featuring my website in the video! Been a fan and customer of you guys for years. You made my day!
Great video. Very well explained. Thankyou, this helps me a bunch
Glad it was helpful!
Love this series so far, hope to see updates on life once this reef is made!
Did he do it?
just started watching him
also just started reefing
Just placed my order a few days ago and its about to arrive :)...i will be ordering again thank you guys. You all take care many blessings :)
Thanks for the support! Be sure to reach out to us if you need any assistance. (:
@@BRStv will do guys thank you :) Ill be buying the rest of my stuff hopefully this week :) And I must say you guys did just a awesome job packing my stuff everything was snug and secure :) ...many blessing everyone yall all take care :)
This is one of the best vids yet! I wish it was avail when I plumbed mine! I HIGHLY recommend!
Great video. I love these videos keep it up
Great video - thank you
Gracias, excelente video, saludos desde Puerto Morelos Q. Roo, México.
You’re so legit man.
Wow so neat and professional
thanks a lot for this video - seriously.
My sicce has been running non stop for 4 years awesome little work horse pump
Love The Info
Going for it! Just put in an order for a blue/grey scheme. Sorry to bite your style, Ryan! jk thanks man! Much much better than getting lost in multiple plumbing stores. Should be fun, I'll put on Lego Masters on in the background whist I assemble.
Great work guys. I laugh every time I watch some of your older videos, needless to say they've come along way :) information has always been great though. Just drilled my 75-P ADA tank with your hole saws and drill guide.
The guide def has some wobble in it but helps out tremendously. It took forever!! Ridiculously long. Others mentioned 20-30mins per hole, try over an hour on each. That's a long time to be stressing. Luckily Had plenty lot of vodka on hand. In the end clean perfect holes. Used a 60mm and 30mm. Keep up the good videos.
I worked in the feature film industry for a long time and BRS could totally make a nice short film about the love of reefing. Similar to Kessil's latest. Holla if you'd like to ever entertain the idea.
@15:18 the quiet one is a good choice and they are affordable enough to buy a backup pump as everybody should...
Love it.
great video
First of all...awesome videos, its great what you guys are doing. I was waiting to hear an internal vs. external return pump comparison though. Any info on the pros/cons of both types would be amazing. Also an internal vs. external skimmer comparison in the upcoming weeks would be greatly appreciated.
Guys! Have you ever considered an in site training / show ? I bet that you can get a lot people traveling interesting in attending!I'll be traveling from NC if you ever consider one. you are simply the best retailer around. !! Thanks !!
So good....
Man I envy you guys, but it is good envy ha ha ha...I will save all this info for my next build-up. Thanks for sharing.
You guys should really look into picking up a deburring and reaming tool to clean up the ends of your PVC. They're quick and you don't have to keep buying them like sand paper. At least I find one useful. Great series, I know I'm a little late to the party, but loving it.
Thank you guys! Keep 'em coming! :D
I'd love to see some "Ballin on a Budget" type videos. I love these though. I'm just getting into this aspect of the hobby, so these are very helpful in learning the basics.
What would have been nice is if you could list the flow rates of pipe size, what flow you should have for certain size tanks, and how elbows slow the flow rate. But other than that, it was great!
Going all out on this one, don't skimp out, throw a KZ 2.0 L zeo reactor on there with one of your vertex alpha skimmers. I got a 4.0 L kz reactor from you guys this summer and I have to say its very nice. Its interesting you happen to be doing a build the same time as I am. We are about at the same stage, im still waiting for my 72x20x16 smoke synergy sump to come in. I just finished cleaning out the pukani you guys sent me, I gave it a good bleach soak. I went with pac sun diuna 10x80w t5 lamp with 3 radions in the rear over a 6'x3'x27" 300g tank. I might have to pick up one of those ecotech returns as well. The market is really lacking in nice DC pumps I just hope the price tag is fair. I live up in Duluth, Minnesota pride!
I get my aquarium tank supplier to cut a hole in the bottom of the tank, you can then use a single pvc pipe set to your water height as an over flow to drop directly into your sump.
How this video was ever approved as a beginner video, I’ll never know
what do you mean? Actually curious is this too much for beginners?
Love the plumbing set-up and will be using a similar set-up for a future reef aquarium I'm planning. I'm a bit confused though with the three valve manifold in the return lines. Are those for inputs from something like a media reactor? And if that's the case, won't the higher pressure from the larger return pump force the return flow out those valves and into the media reactor in the reverse direction. Maybe I just need to keep watching and see what you do with those inputs...
nice pump. ;)
Exelente 👍
you wrapped the teflon onto the threaded fitting the wrong way at 9:15, hold the fitting in the left hand, and go clockwise, love your video's!
Saw it to bud. Almost threw up!!
So many places for me to make a mistake! I think I'll go all-in-one for my first reef tank..
Tip when drilling a glass tank not mentioned in the video.
If at all possible, drill from the inside -> out. The side you start drilling from will have the smoothest possible surface to seal against. The side you are drilling towards can sometime break off when there is only a 1/8th or 1/16th of an inch left to drill through. If this happens it can leave a cupped out chip right at the edge of the hole that will never seal properly against a bulk head fitting gasket. Been there done that.
***** I drill outside in but put painters tape inside and if you go slow enough, virtually no chipout remains inside
***** Agreed guys, slow and steady. I will still stand by my recommendation. If space allows try and drill from inside to outside. Not always possible, especially on smaller "40 breeder" tanks, but worth the effort. I've drilled probably a dozen different tanks in my time and it is beyond frustrating to drill a perfectly good hole only to have it chip out on the last millimeter. I now clamp a small piece of wood on the back side of the glass when drilling to support it when punching through.
Remember everyone ..... you're not "cutting" or "drilling" through the glass. You're "grinding" through the glass. Give the bit time to grind through 100% of the glass and don't get impatient at the end.
Great information as usual. Any chance there is assembly footage that might make it to a time lapse video of this build eventually?
I've been working on redesigning my plumbing for the last couple weeks. This video answered a couple of the questions I had, but raised one more... When is that EcoTech pump coming out lol? The driver will look real nice next to my MP40 Quietdrive Drivers and Apex panel!
Come on brs....you should know you put that tape on backwards 😂, other than that most knowledgeable video out there as always
that's an impressive plumbing job :)
what sort of equipment would you envision adding in the future to those spare manifolds?
Are you guys going to cover wave makers at one point?
If you have a spare tank and some extra drill bits do some test runs! Drilling a tank is very easy but for sure use a template
Good one it's a important topic #marinelifewithshiv
Do you have a detailed list of what pipes and pieces you used to plumb it this way? Really like the layout and want to mimic if I can!
Perfect presentation. Great. Only when I spoted speakers left and right of aquarium this is totaly dummy as fish feel even small vibration and not listening sub bass frequency near. Bad very bad.
It's very complicated and for highend tanks. Can you please give some suggestions/budget ways for smaller tanks as well?
I drilled my aquarium by hand with water in. 😎
Mantaapp,,!!
Saya memimpikannya & saya akan merealisasikannya
God I wish you guys would ship to the Uk
Please do a vid on making a reef tank for a square nano tank! Thanks! 😆😆
is it possible to do a bean style with the 3 holes coming from bottom instead of back? Thanks in advance Ryan
If I could get an answer on this it would be great!! What size pipe did you use for return and drain? Looks like 3/4 and 1 1/2 but not sure. I'm plumbing mine into a trigger 34 sapphire that I just purchased
Great video! Do you have a schematic with the plans for this setup? Also, do you have a parts list with the parts needed and the cost if you sell them.
missed spring valves. there by far the cheapest but they really kill pump pressure. usually under 3 bucks at big box stores for the stainless ones. the flappers are great!
do the y style kill pump pressure? they seem like a better option
Thanx for the info!! I have a durso, it is intermittently loud tho would an air control valve fix this with proper adjustments? And where could I find one like u showed in the video? I couldn't find it on the brs website.
watching every week here from the UK!
Ryan - can we have one video a week on the tank build and 1 video a week on something like tank care or product reviews. I noticed your calcium reactor videos are old now......
Brian can you guys please do a review of the fluval sp6? I haven't seen many videos on TH-cam about the sp line frolm fluval
I toss my tubing in the dryer for a bit then hang it over a door while it cools.
Not sure if you guys answer questions here but it looks like your 160 gallon manifold is 1 inch hard plumbing, but you reduce it to 3/4" hard plumbing for the return ends why? Also the silicon soft tubing for vibration reduction at the start of the pump is a great idea. Just curious there as well why it isn't 1 inch? Just trying to learn why people do what they do. I figured reducing the tubing and return piping would cause more pipe resistance lowering water flow?
WOW! I have a simple 10 gallon HOB tank in my kitchen and we purchased a 36 gallon bowfront black friday for 107.00 I had seen a used on on FB and it looked as if one pipe led to sump and other came up and I though, my hubby can do that! haha. I didnt realize until a few days ago that something needed to be inside the tank! It sucks I only have a 36 space in my family room and walking by I could see the plumbing if we did a ghost overflow. No to mention not much space inside to put a regular type of overflow and certainly dont want to see a HOB in my family room. Not very aesthetic . Its disguised or hard to see under kitchen cabinets and in a cut out corner! Sill What is bets solution for my dilemma. I have considered an AIO but they are pretty small like biocube are very cheap used but biggest is 32 gallons and alot of space is taken by sump ext in back.. There is someone selling a custom 38 gallon plumbed for 200.00 so even if we plumb the 36 for 107.00 the stuff I need to buy is probably costly so this seems a much better deal after watching this. Tank is custom as well and it is made wider at the top then bottom, so more room uptop for an overflow box so probably take mine back. Hopefully whoever custom made it took all the precautions as hate to lose my wood floors from a flood!
What kind of water storage tanks are those in the back of the video? I see them at 4:41. Trying to find some I like and these are the only ones I've found so far.
What fittings did you use to go from the pvc to push connectors on the manifold? Thanks!
Looks like the drain lines coming from the bulkheads are smaller than the horizontal pipe runs going to the sump. Is this so? I have a tank drilled for one inch abs bulkheads but my sump has 11/2 bulkheads for the drain lines. Is there anything wrong with using the 1 1/2 bulkheads or should I use reducers on the bulkheads to keep all my drain pipes the same size. Going with the Bean Animal overflow system. Thanks
do you guys have a herbie overflow tutorial? i bought a rimless tank and he had set up with the herbie overflow method and i dont know how to connect everything back together
Overall great information - though I wish we had seen the details of your plumbing a bit more - as in, close ups of the plumbing as it enters the sump where the valves are and such.
I definitely agree I have never had a sump before and I’m a little familiar with plumbing but there’s a lot going on down there and I don’t want to ruin my floor with a flood
on a single line return should the manifolds extend off the return line or should the entire water flow go through the manifolds and onto the display tank.
1. If you don't mind me asking, because I am buying that same vectra return pump soon from you. At 17:51 into the video, is that a 3⁄4" Pipe Adapter Spigot x Barb coming out of the Vectra return pump or a 1"? I know the output of the vectra is 1" but just wondering if I am going to to need a 3/4" or 1" pipe adapter? Because I am hoping to run 1" piping throughout the rest of the return.
2. Is it ok to use this same type of weld-on glue you used @ 13:30, connecting a schedule 40 pvc to bond to a schedule 80 valve?
3. Where can I find those valves you used on the air line tubing @ 4:00 into video, that comes out of the top of the overflow tubing? If you sale them, do you have a part number? Thank you!
Thankyou :) You guys do know you are the best!
At around 17:45 how did you attach the grey barb fitting to M1? Is it glued on or push fit? I hear they are not compatible to be glued as they are made of different material.
When adding a cpr overflowbox how would you plumb the inside of the box? It only has one bulk head. Would you let it just drain through the bulk head or do you need to add a pvc elbow?
Does drilling a hole in the open channel intake elbow work just as effectively as running an airline tubing when using an internal overflow box?
I would like to use a vectra pump and the manifold design you have here. I currently have a 60 gallon tank with a 40 gallon sump but I eventually want to upgrade to a 150+ gallon tank and still be able to use this pump. I also have a BRS deluxe carbon reactor, a bio pellet reactor and a RX-C 6D Vertex Calcium Reactor. I was thinking of getting the L1. Will I be able to dial it back enough for my current 60 until I get the 150 gallon tank?
One more question for you guys.. I've watched a bunch of videos regarding an over flow but, before I drill my tank, I can't seem to find any videos showing the measurements or how high or low to drill and plum. I want to do the method of two outgoing pipes in the over flow, one being he emergency. How would I find the right measurements? Thanks guys!
I was planning on creating my own over flow with either PVC or acrylic.. I guess with a DIY, i can make it how I want right?
Also instead of using the gate valve for your drain would it be ok to use the Cepex Ball Valve to adjust the flow to the sump instead?
I wish I had the thousands to spend on just a sump and overflow.
I'll have to check around for affordable options.
What PVC cement did you guys used here? I think you showed Weldon 711 but in minte 16:10 I think Ryan has a different kind.
Did you guys plumb the Reef Savvy ghost overflow with the bulkheads facing the “wrong” way?
I have a new Reef Savvy overflow which came assembled with the bulkhead head inside the internal overflow box.
One concern I have with sumps is the fact that intake and outlet are both at the top. What is the best way to insure that water does not stagnate at the bottom?
Question about your plumbing. What is the point of the gate valve in you return? Shouldn't the return be free flow at what ever rate the pump is pushing the water into the tank?
What size pipe is running between the overflow and the sump? Do you have any concern if it can handle the output of the Vectra pump? The smallest one has max flow of 2100GPH.
Question, are you saying I don't need to glue the street or spigot fittings?
I have a quick question. What kind of recommended return pump would be good for a 29 gallon biocube. Still a novice at what i need to learn. Thanx in advance
Are there any disadvantages to using threaded fittings? Did you just go with slip and unions for everything?
Thanks!