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i am not an expert but i wonder why you drop one stage of flaps short before the threshold. i would do this way earlier and more flaps so i have a constant steady approach and not changing stuff before touchdown. felt a bit like a speedy landing and i wonder why since every knot too much at landing raises the risk of damage and crash. but a nice video and informative as i fly the 250s in flight simulation.
It's very typical in light planes to have 3 flap settings and add 1/3 at a time on downwind, base, and final. Perhaps counter-intuitively, this allows for a progressive decelleration at a fairly constant power setting and 3 degree glide slope. Comanche 1.3 VSO reference speed for full flap final is 83mph. It was a bit fast at 50' but touchdown was at 70mph. The main issue with this landing was the nose wheel touching first. Being slow in a landing is much more dangerous than being a bit fast - you can always bleed speed in the flair given sufficient runway available. Airspeed gives you margin against wind gusts and a loss of power - as does waiting to add full flaps (and drag) until the landing is fairly assured.
@@planeplaces totally agree with being to slow is way more dangerous. For myself I found it better to have everything setup before threshold and not change the flight behaviour (changing flaps) short before touchdown. But again I talk about flightsim and not real world :) thx for answering :)
I started using only 2 notches of flaps landing my Comanche. 85MPH over the fence and sets on the ground much better. With 3 notches I need to be much slower for it to flare properly to not risk the nosewheel touching first. Only 2 notches was a game changer for me! Love the Comanche and love your videos, thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Love the Comanche too! After making this video my father also suggested trying 2/3rds flaps for most landings and as you said a much easier to get a good flare and not a huge impact on roll out. Adjusting full flap speed based on landing weight has also helped a lot.
Love the video, nice when someone is willing to take the time and post. Comanche is nice plane, my favorite actually. I try and make every landing my best, No flap, some or all, it's the same, hold it off about 2 inches until it is stalling, yoke and trim full aft (about) and suddenly you are on the ground.
@@planeplaces I would think it's only due to camera effect, but the mains (especially the left on this one) translated inwards upon weight on wheels; in this case, so much so that the gear door moved inward as well. In all videos where your gear is visible, regardless of camera angle, I've noticed this. Comanche gear must splay slightly outward and have no inward translation upon bearing weight, as they have no downlock mechanism. Please have a Comanche specialist shop inspect your gear. The gear appearing inward is one thing (can blame camera), but Comanche gear should never TRANSLATE inward. This is only possible if they did not achieve an over-center configuration. They should hold position very rigidly, and translate outward if at all. Reference this Comanche's touchdown at 7:57, th-cam.com/video/V3ZiwwtpgyQ/w-d-xo.html
Looks like all of my landings in the Comanche.
They've been getting better! Most of the time ... Great airplane.
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i am not an expert but i wonder why you drop one stage of flaps short before the threshold. i would do this way earlier and more flaps so i have a constant steady approach and not changing stuff before touchdown. felt a bit like a speedy landing and i wonder why since every knot too much at landing raises the risk of damage and crash. but a nice video and informative as i fly the 250s in flight simulation.
It's very typical in light planes to have 3 flap settings and add 1/3 at a time on downwind, base, and final. Perhaps counter-intuitively, this allows for a progressive decelleration at a fairly constant power setting and 3 degree glide slope. Comanche 1.3 VSO reference speed for full flap final is 83mph. It was a bit fast at 50' but touchdown was at 70mph. The main issue with this landing was the nose wheel touching first. Being slow in a landing is much more dangerous than being a bit fast - you can always bleed speed in the flair given sufficient runway available. Airspeed gives you margin against wind gusts and a loss of power - as does waiting to add full flaps (and drag) until the landing is fairly assured.
Agreed. Didn't really give the plane any time to settle in the new config.
@@planeplaces totally agree with being to slow is way more dangerous. For myself I found it better to have everything setup before threshold and not change the flight behaviour (changing flaps) short before touchdown. But again I talk about flightsim and not real world :) thx for answering :)
I started using only 2 notches of flaps landing my Comanche. 85MPH over the fence and sets on the ground much better. With 3 notches I need to be much slower for it to flare properly to not risk the nosewheel touching first. Only 2 notches was a game changer for me! Love the Comanche and love your videos, thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Love the Comanche too! After making this video my father also suggested trying 2/3rds flaps for most landings and as you said a much easier to get a good flare and not a huge impact on roll out. Adjusting full flap speed based on landing weight has also helped a lot.
Love the video, nice when someone is willing to take the time and post. Comanche is nice plane, my favorite actually. I try and make every landing my best, No flap, some or all, it's the same, hold it off about 2 inches until it is stalling, yoke and trim full aft (about) and suddenly you are on the ground.
Thanks. The Comanche is a challenging one to land consistently
@@planeplaces I know, own a PA30, over 20 yrs, instruct in them
@@MrSmddmd would love to fly a pa30 some time
@@planeplaces VAY anytime
@@planeplaces www.youtube.com/@MrSmddmd
You touched high energy,low speed needed
Is the camera making mains look like they are cambered in ?
Yes, it's a bit of a camera effect
@@planeplaces I would think it's only due to camera effect, but the mains (especially the left on this one) translated inwards upon weight on wheels; in this case, so much so that the gear door moved inward as well. In all videos where your gear is visible, regardless of camera angle, I've noticed this. Comanche gear must splay slightly outward and have no inward translation upon bearing weight, as they have no downlock mechanism. Please have a Comanche specialist shop inspect your gear. The gear appearing inward is one thing (can blame camera), but Comanche gear should never TRANSLATE inward. This is only possible if they did not achieve an over-center configuration. They should hold position very rigidly, and translate outward if at all. Reference this Comanche's touchdown at 7:57, th-cam.com/video/V3ZiwwtpgyQ/w-d-xo.html
A littel bit bouncy landing
Yes, hence the title. The nose wheel touches down first which is the main cause and something you try to avoid
@@planeplaces maybe u could flare more before u land just a suggetsion
@@DragonTheGuy_official He's obviously a newbie.
To the Comanche yes