Why You Should Consider a Piper Comanche
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- If you want to know what it is like to fly a piper Comanche 250, you have come to the wrong place. I bought one but I haven't figured out how to work it yet. I did decide that I should make a video about the plane with some marginally truthful information about the plane and the rest is made up nonsense.
Truthfully if you are looking to buy a fast single engine aircraft. I strongly suggest you consider a piper Comanche. The Comanche 250 is a beast and you can get one far cheaper than the other planes in its class.
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It's amazing that in 1961 Piper had the vision to bump up to 7.5G spars to avoid the 5G interference issue in 2022. Cessna 150 wing spars are made from the boxes those 182 wing spars are shipped in.
This might be the funniest thing I have read in a month "Cessna 150 wing spars are made from the boxes those 182 wing spars are shipped in."
Cessna 150 SkyCart!
@@JustPlaneSilly The cool part is they come with a glued-in cellophane inspection window.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
My 150 is, to this day, the most reliable aircraft ive ever owned. 182 is a great plane as well. But I agree the Commanche is a great plane, it just never factored into what I wanted. I got my 1985 150 in 1999, from my Grandfather for my Graduation. I have it till this day, in mint condition, but rarely flying because I have a 172 hangered, and an 80% through a Vans RV14 build, while also completely redoing a stearman biplane. (Years from completion) Doing this stuff is a hobby I grew up with, I've been flying since I was a child).
"I decided aviation was becoming just a little bit too affordable...." Fortunately, that is a problem that is very easy to solve.
You literally almost killed me when the Oregon trail came up. Almost falling out of my chair choking on my food LMAO. I swear. you can even deliver serious factual information while also making it hilarious. LOVE IT!
Seriously! Me too!
And we remember it came on the 5.25" floppy disks.
Mine was Airplane Online!
Meee tooo that was freaking hilarious!!! 😂
I owned a 1958 Comanche 250 serial #213 for 10 years and clocked more than 1000 hours on it.
I am now 81 years old and stopped flying in 2010. Best plane I ever owned.
The definition of a good time = this guy
Hey! I've got a 1960 Comanche 250 and it's got a heater and a defroster! A 65% cruise setting is easier on the engine and wallet with a burn of 12.5gph. You'll still get a true of 147 knots or about 171 mph. At $8.00+ per gallon at the pumps that fine by me.
The cowboys reference made me smile, then cry.
I'll be in my baggage compartment next Sunday as well. 😢
OMG! Another super funny one. Hit it out of the park. Too many funny lines to list! I thought for sure that a "no need for foggles" or "Built in foggles" joke was comin' any minute.
The Seneca was developed as a twin-engined version of the Piper Cherokee Six. The prototype was a Cherokee Six that had wing-mounted engines installed, retaining its nose engine. The prototype was flown as a tri-motor aircraft in the initial stages of the test-flying program.[1]
Never knew that before, that's both cool and strange. It would probably be good for running drugs with all that extra power.
The thing that would worry me about buying that plane is not knowing how much longer Microsoft is going to support DOS. 🤣
I'm really glad to see you loving the PA-24, it was a pleasure finding it for you! As satirical as this video is. You already seem to have made her shine. I have a Comanche 180 and 250 in stock right now!
My cousin randy had a 400 comanche , flew in it more than a few times, guzzled fuel like a drunkin sailor but climbed like its tail was on fire, and a decent cruise speed, sweet plane,\loved the sound of that 8 cyl lyc, and if he wouldnt of lost his medical, im sure he would still own it.
I just stumbled on your video. Man am I glad I did. You’re hilarious. I’m a 62 yr old guy who has always dreamed of doing this consistently and getting my pilot’s certificate. I’ve flown all kinds of planes but never enough to earn what I want. Thank you for this video and sharing your enthusiasm with us all. I’m grateful. I will be staying in contact with you. I’m looking forward to all your videos.
Great Video! I've had 7425P for about 17 years and heartily concur with all you say!
Just the intro is so funny. “I liked to be challenged both physically and financially “. So awesome
As a fellow owner of an early 60's airplane (C210) I definitely relate to, "I like to be challenged financially"!!!!! 💸💸💸
Just bought myself a 1959 Comanche 180 with 780 hours total time and 78 hours on a factory rebuilt engine. Picked it up two weeks ago. I love it!!
Was it the red and white one that showed up on social media that everybody was talking about because the time was so low?
@@JustPlaneSilly yessir it was. Logs are complete and intact. She was a hanger queen. She flew for 500 hours in her first 10 years and then the owner died. She sat in a hanger for 15 years without flying. Then the owners son took her out of storage did a very extensive annual and painted her. Went through everything, only to fly her for 5 hours every other year. Then the plane was sold and got a new prop and engine and once again got flown 5 to 10 hours a year. I’m pretty sure it’s the lowest time Comanche still flying. She’s In mint shape including the original interior. I wish TH-cam would let me load a picture.
The floppy drive stuck in the glove box looks like an awesome upgrade.🤣
You can fit a lot of fire extinguishers and GoPros in that cargo bay. You should install a driver's side door to make egress easier during engine failure..
On the serious side of things, a comanche imo is an awesome plane, my friend has one and its a beast of a plane, it will carry what ever you can stuff in it , fast and just built like a tank with wings.
I would buy a Comanche, but I spent all of my money on Jimmy’s 310.
Had the opportunity to fly a 250 for 20 hours a number of years ago. They are fast, hauled the whole family, and are a good value as you mention. Shoulder harness and Steves Gascolator are some of the best upgrades you can do. Looking forward to more videos and updates on this airplane.
Despite your best efforts I continually learn real and useful information from your videos. I thought it was a joke that adding tip tanks would increase load but it turns out it really does due to the change in distribution of the weight.
Yup! I couldn't believe that either. 200 more pounds. but I understand they are really hard to find and about 15k currently. I would like to add them becaue I think they look cool but I can't fathom paying for 120 gallons of fuel. That would make me a little sick.
@@JustPlaneSilly yes, but tip tanks would mean the plane has 6 bladders, so you need a funnel within easy reach of the pilot. Connect it to the pito tube and you are good to go. “For emergencies only”.Then you could make 1000 miles between stops.
Loved the video! I was actually based at NW Regional in those outdoor T Hangers when I bought my Comanche, I previously owned a Cherokee N5701F which I believe is still parked there. I ultimately decided that since this was probably my forever plane, and the financial investment that I had and was going to make in it, that I needed to have it in a covered hanger, so I moved to Hicks. I remember how much dirt and moisture I would get in those outdoor T's. To me it's worth the investment - something to consider
I bet 701F is still there... With flat tires...
Great video Bryan, keep them coming, thanks for sharing.
Lol. Glad you found the floppy disk 😆 nice work!
It was a LOT of effort for a 10 second joke. But hey, it made me laugh.
@@JustPlaneSilly well worth it… and of course I love the oregon trail 😆
This is fantastic, love your work
Another great video brother!!
As a dairy farmer who also flies (both simultaneously pay the bills and suck all my money) I loved the 4 stomach joke 🤣 currently on the search to trade my arrow for a commanche just because of that.
Outstanding as always!
Awesome video! Love it!
Oughta consider shooting from the hip more often. That was beautiful! Laughed out loud!! Outtakes were priceless. Great channel. This one topped the I Got Sucked Out of My Plane video.....................Oh Dak. Bless His heart.
Great video! This one had me laughing out loud a little too much. So much so that I got the dreaded "turn that down and stop laughing we are trying to sleep." The outtakes were pretty funny too. Thanks for sharing.
Not an aviator. Ended up here because of Trent Palmer... but love your channel. Gonna learn it cause in my next life, I plan to fly planes sillily! Keep up the good crass humorful work!
funny...I think one of the coolest tidbits about the comanche is that the wing is a slightly scaled down P-51 wing. check out the plan view and profile some time. The story I got is the comanche and the bonanza in a tandem configuration were contending for a government contract as a trainer at the end of the war, mid 40's, and the bonanza won, probably cuz of all the other Beech contracts.
The outtakes are the best!
Awesome video and well done! Cracked me up more than few times. Debating the subtle 5G reference versus the 5.25" disk DEMONSTRATION. Holy crap, you kicked the crap out of the way back machine for that one. Rock on!!
Yes with all the time spent at home we all went a little aviation over board. I sold my Ercoupe and bought a 1965 Aztec. So I am having twice the cash fun that you are. Lucky me. LOL
Great stuff man. Love the plane.
Neat plane! I just remember from my A&P days doing maintenance and testing on the whacky Teleflex cable gear retract system. And the emergency extend is interesting.
Oh man! The floppy disk and Oregon Trail! I was in tears. Thanks for the laugh!
Very good. Thanks for the laughs and the Comanche review.
Lol! The 1960’a have a single sump in the middle, but it’s up behind a belly door and it’s a regular drain valve. I keep a beach towel in the baggage compartment for getting down and sumping. Just the 2 tanks at 60 gallons total. Definitely gonna outlast my bladder too!!
your worst outtake is better than my best attempt at humor. love this.
About to get a 1957 180 for my first. Love this channel! Super funny
OMG the wing cash joke was great !!
Congrats! Love Comanches.
Bryan at his best! Too many hilarious things to list!
Oregon trail good one
Airplanes Online...now I know where to get the best maps for my trip west! Bet there's no dysentery via air. Thanks for the pro tip Bryan. 😄
We have a 58 Comanche 250! Best airplane for the buck!
I owned a 250 for years and loved it.
Great video! Love your sense of humour! Wow, good old 5.25 floppies! Yikes! Good stuff! Blue skies!
Good video! Ha! I have a 1960 Beech Debonair. You can tell that our two birds were built to compete against one another back when dinosaurs roamed. Our specs just about line up. You hold a few more gallons of fuel and I really wish I had that extra 100lbs of useful load. But not enough to remove the AC that the Debonair has. Blows ice cold!
That 5 1/4" disc about made me lose it but it was the Airplanes Online modem sound and The Oregon Trail that made ruin my keyboard. Comedy gold, Bryan. Comedy. Gold.
Love them, great value!
My cub friends at the airport say it's time to choose a Comanche, when you've given up on life.
That bladder shaft has to be the result of a drunken competition between a few piper engineers of “how can we make the most inconvenient sump system ever”
The idea behind the sump system is that you could see the fuel through the tube as it ran on to the floor. This way you could see when water was gone and fuel was flowing.
Unfortunately, two things happened. Over time the plastic tube became opaque and ditching fuel on the ground was banned.
I love your videos Bryan! I’m also a Piper Cherokee owner, and really liked your perspective 🤣😂
Ummm it’s Bryan with a “Y” lol 😂
It's BrYan (with a Y).
The Comanche 250 is my dream.
PA-34-180 Twin Six
With the decision to abandon the three-engined design tested on the PA-32-3M, the PA-34 was developed as a twin-engined aircraft. The prototype PA-34-180 Twin Six, registered as N3401K, first flew on 25 April 1967. The prototype had two 180 hp (134 kW) Lycoming O-360 engines, a fixed nosewheel landing gear and a Cherokee Six vertical tail. The second prototype flew on 30 August 1968, still with the 180 hp (134 kW) Lycomings but had retractable landing gear and a taller vertical tail. During development flying the wingspan was increased by two feet. The third prototype was closer to the production standard and flew on 20 October 1969; it was fitted with 200 hp (149 kW) Lycoming IO-360-A1A engines
I was just looking at the Piper Comanche 250 TH-cam channel, and MIke's installation of the Garmin GI-275 instruments. I'm really hoping that your airplane will end up with that same kind of upgrade. I also hope, in the future, you'll find some 'ram horn' yokes for that airplane, instead of the D style yoke that's on there. I posted a question to him about fabricating some sort of adapter to use the new Piper style yokes, but while the concept isn't hard, getting the FAA to approve it might not be too easy. However, who knows, your friends over at the FSDO might be able to help you, in a positive way! LOL :D
As usual, it's always great to see new content from you. From all the ice on the airplane, I guess you are having some pretty bad weather down there. I hope all is well with you and your family. Take care, stay safe, and I'm looking forward to updates on the airplane, both interior, exterior, and panel.
This was one of the funniest vids I’ve seen in a while
I wish I could afford to get a Comanche. Stunning airplane.
I'm buying this plane for the woodstove!
I’m glad you made this video. The Comanche is so under rated. We own a 260B. The Comanche is like a supercharged, nitrous injected suburban of the sky! Fast, efficient and hauls anything. It’s like having your cake and eating it too!! I mean, why have cake if you can’t eat it??
It's crazy. I cannot believe how underrated it is. It will do anything I ask of it
@@JustPlaneSilly everything except land if you are 1 knot fast of approach speed. Lol
@@JustPlaneSilly This six decade old plane wasn’t even on my radar…. Until now! Geez! Thanks a lot Bryan.
Omg, as a techy the floppy and boot up blew my mind…. But when I saw the Oregon trail game….. I was on the floor laughing. Will buy this plane for any price. Pure comic genius. LOL.
Love the computer updates 🤣🤣🤣
I like your style man. New follower here.
Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. Look around hopefully you'll find some more laughs.
I took flying lessons in a 62 Comanche and I believe it flew right out of its paint job too.
My Instructor would always say “listen for the gear” then “ did ya hear it?” every time he raised or lowered the retracts because the dang red/green light didn’t work.
To me that plane was sketchy as all hell but it was just another airplane to him. Lol 😂
So well done... Funny, and I still learned a lot about the airplane!
You had me with the 5 1/4 inch floppy…. advice…. cut the notch out on the other side to make it double sided…. 😜
Following suit. Leaving my Grumman Cheetah and am into a Comanche 250. Love them both, but got to sell the Cheetah for AvGas!
Congratulations on your new acquisition!
I'm primarily a Cesna pilot who is transitioning to the PA28 series. When should one switch fuel tanks? I'll bet you could make a whole satire on that! Preflight- switch tanks. Change power settings- switch tanks. Someone sneezes- switch tanks. See a cloud- switch tanks.
It's almost like a drinking game!
Oh man, the switch tanks drinking game! That’s be a hilarious video.
"Money sucker". Golden!
Bonus points for the Floppy Disk and Drive! Hahahaaha
Nice hangar pal
Here I sit in Australia watching this and it's 40 C outside... you can keep your snow Bryan (with a Y!).
We have a 66 260B and I like to call it the poor man's Bonanza. They for sure have their quirks but they are awesome flying machines.
Id like to pick your brain a bit when you have a minute. Shoot me an email. bryan@worldsgreatestpilot.com
I understood about 15% of that but could not look away. And no I do not fly. It's not so easy over here in the UK. and the cost :O
When you talked about the paint coming off the plane I thought that was the paint laying all over the ground. Please keep the Bob wire fence up so that stuff doesn't blow south.
Way to go ! Keep us laughing !
That, was great!
Soooo much 182 hate! I can park 2 cars under each wing inside my heated hangar (that also has a door). Nobody has to climb up on a wing to enter. There are TWO doors for ease of entry/exit. I'm digging my 182. The only downside is that most people that don't know airplanes think I have a 172 (which is humiliating). The Commanche is a great plane. I have a buddy that has a Commanche 400. It basically has two 4 cylinder airplane engines fused together. He cruises at over 190 knots (but burns a LOT of gas). I think my next plane might be a Twin Commanche. Same fuselage, but a couple engines for safety. I'm excited to see the Commanche content from this channel.
And don't get me wrong I love Cessna 182 but I have to make fun of them because I don't have one. 😂
I was waiting for this
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Were you holding your breath?
@@WolfPilot 👍☑️ he probably had a mouth full of beer which is way more important than breathing LOL
Great little plane. My Uncle had one. .
out takes... well done :)
With that kind of useful load you should be able to carry full fuel, four adults, and all the airframe ice in Dallas.
Welcome to the Comanche Tribe... I just sold mine and really tried to burn all my wing cash by getting a Bonanza!
Bravo!
Beautiful coat of ice on the Comanche, Bryan! I thought this was Norwest Regional in Texas?! What's with that????? Really nice plane. Thanks for sharing.
Bryan, hilarious! You didn’t mention the ceiling window crank. 😂
I did film a cowboy "Yehaaw" scene with the window crank but it didn't make the final edit.
My favorite points:
2:40 No 5G interference LOL!
4:40 Convert wing cash into feelings of loss and insecurity LOL!
6:23 Piper made sumping worse. Geez. Switch to a tank for a few seconds, close the valve, go back outside, check the bowl, go back in, switch to a different tank, repeat. Geez. But look on the bright side. I've seen everything from SE pistons to Citation Xs grounded for a week or so because one of their sump valves stuck open and they kept leaking fuel until a mechanic could get there and fix it. At least you don't have to worry about that.
7:44 As a line guy myself, I never expect tips from transient SE piston pilots, most of whom live in T-hangars or on tie-downs and so don't usually deal with line guys at all. Of course, they can barely afford their planes at all so I don't hold that against them. Hell, I get stiffed by millionaires every day so don't feel bad. But the transient SE piston folks... Most of them don't know how to follow marshalling hand signals, let alone know to turn their taxi light off at night before they make the final turn to face the marshaller, nor wait to turn it on until after they've been marshalled out and are pointing away from the line guy. Just blink it to say you're ready to go. And they don't expect nor even feel comfortable in accepting offers to carry their bags, or get them a baggage cart, or even bring their car to the plane. But when you come to an FBO that caters to high-rollers in bizjets, the line guys try their best to give the same service to transient SE pistons. It's what we do. So just enjoy the luxury. You're paying for it in the ramp fees so get your money's worth. That might make you feel better about robbing your kid's college fund to pay for your plane :) But PLEASE learn how to follow marshalling signals and also follow taxi light etiquette :D As for tips, they're not expected so don't feel bad about it.
Anyway, great video. But I was actually expecting another snide remark about the landing gear given your Xmas experience ;)
Dude, you've got a newer Comanche using the 5 1/4 inch floppy. My friends's was a couple of years older and used 8 inch floppies,. Just like the ones we used at Edwards AFB for flight test computers.
Good video
"The Mooney? We don't need that trash" Preach!
I have a 64 Twin Comanche, I'm rich and wanted to go through $$ twice as fast as anyone else. I have 8 fuel tanks on mine, I have to pee many times before I go through 9.5 hr of flying. All in all I love my little twin, about the same speed and fuel as the 250. A great airplane as well! I have to check the manual, not sure what my spar is made of.
I love my pa24. Best bang for the buck
I love the Comanche!
🤣 that floppy drive