@@ComptechTypeS The one SG just reviewed I find of a beautiful restrained elegance. Mark called it boringly corporate, but maybe mainly the interior. It's not necessarily a bad thing, considering what weird design failure is being committed elsewhere.
Add videos shot in vertical format to the ban and I'll vote for you. What country are you planning to be President of, by the way? It might take me a day or two to get on the voters' list.
Love this market. Can't buy a normal-ass hybrid like a Maverick/RAV4/Sienna/whatever without a year-long waitlist and a big dealer markup, but damn do you have a lot of choices if what you want is a $100k luxury SUV.
Well no shit, its the free market. Cars are under-supplied right now so obviously the cars that the common man can afford have went up, since many people want them. Rich people can afford shit like this in general, therefore the price increase doesn't dissuade them from purchasing new cars, whether they're marked up or not.
The manufacturers are deliberately keeping inventory scarce. Getting ready for a direct to consumer model. Dem EPA regs are also destroying the industry simultaneously.
Im also pretty sure the "connection failed" chime is the mid 2000s BMW chime. Please correct me if im wrong. Im an e50 m5 owner and have heard that chime wayyyy to many times.
I like so much about this, the looks, the inline 6, the ZF trans, the interior. I could go on and on. BUUUTTTT we do long drives home on occasion, often at night through the desert, and this is when I want a vehicle that I pretty much know with not give me any issues. This is not that vehicle. I hope some day that reputation improves.
Yeah thats what I thought at first but realised they are still a subsidiary of Tata Motors which owns Jaguar-Land Rover. But damn the whole who owns who of British car companies as confusing as hell...
Ok my initial reaction is for $85k as a base that’s insane, but it seems that thing comes with a lot of standard equipment. This is unlike the Germans who nickel and dime you with $50k in available options. So maybe it isn’t that bad after all. But gosh the cost of cars is going crazy… maybe I’m just getting too old.
You're not too old. You are applying common sense based on years of experience and learning from your mistakes. 85K (probably more like 100) is a lot of money and Jack made a great philosophical point: build a mall crawler at a lower price point. Not everyone who buys (or leases) this thing needs to be able to climb a tree in everyday use. It would greatly expand JLR's potential customer base.
@@gadeane287 Then it wouldn't be a RR. The brand is "off roading across the Sahara"; EVERY RR has to be able to do that. What you are describing is a Jaguar F-Pace.
@@trevorsutherland5263 I respect them for keeping the off road heritage going. I did the Land Rover experience in Manchester VT and its incredible to see what they can do when pushed to the limit. That's why they cost more and people are clearly ok paying for that, even if they never use it!
It’s a shitbox. Drove a 2022 with 25k miles, and it rattled, struggled to get out of its own way, and the drive was no better than a 5 year old Tahoe. I don’t get it. I see why so many are being repossessed in my neighborhood. ;)
_Looking_ "boutique...expensive and special" is probably important for Land Rovers as their 31 out of 32 reliability doesn't allow for much time _on the road._
I've always felt the reviews of the low to mid spec versions of any vehicle are the best ones to watch. The inherent goodness (or lack thereof) is apparent when you have the base engine, the base seats, the base suspension, etc. If all of that is good and you come away feeling like "wow, awesome ride!" then that means a lot more to me. Porsche is like that---base Macan is a joy to drive. BMW, maybe Alfa....not Audi though; for Audi you CANNOT ever bother with the FWD stuff with the base 2.0 engine. If this RR Sport is this good at the base level, then JLR has hit one out of the park.
Mazda’s base-model Miata is the Sport, and nobody even knows it exists. That is just how the dealers want it, because they can then gouge their customers thousands extra for the Club, which comes with a few brand-name add-ons.
I’m enjoying the review of a base model without options. It’s much more representative of how fundamentally good the vehicle is, especially given that most dealer inventories contain only moderately equipped cars.
Aside from the fact that the Range Rover is in service instead of on the road, it's a great car to be seen in sitting in the service lounge waiting to get Range Rover back.
JLR is propped up by a great supplier base who charge them a premium for their small volume which translates into crazy prices.. as long as they can keep the image up, fair enough… maybe I’m just jealous.
Jack you two almost always talk about styling and you have very strong opinions on it. No need to act like you don't discuss you absolutely do at some point in your vids it comes out.
Unlike the typical fawning “automotive journalists” on YT, Jack and Mark actually have taste. This of course will earn them eternal banishment by the Zoomer generation, while Schmee and Supercar Blondie rake in the bucks.
I’m actually glad you got a chance to review the base trim. Get sofa king tired of seeing a vehicle start at $40k and then SG reviews the $65k TOTL variant. It’s like you tickle my balls and say here’s something you get only to slap my face and say Sike you can’t afford this.
Damn, I like RR for their ride quality and interior feel. For example, Velar is probably the only SUV that I can just WALK inside, without bending or stepping up. But when I imagine the horror of driving to dealer at least once a month, POS infotainment (in Velar at least) and HUGE price drop after 2 or 3 years of ownership - it's just not worth it, even leasing it is not worth the hassle.
The platform does look good in the shop segment, its nice to see all the little engineering and performance improvements they made there… too bad 99% of these wont see anything past a Whole Foods parking lot let alone any non paved surface
i believe, a great percentage of range rover loyal buyers are british rich farmers and land owners who may hunt occasionally. They wanna look cool but also need some offroad capability. so some of them are beign used properly.
@@obsoletecd-romgood thing president Biden passed the infrastructure bill, biggest investment since FDR, and everyone including Obama and Trump failed to do it until ol Joey did it
All the German high performance SUVs are going 20-30% more than these "boutique" brands, and they are producing the shit out of them. At this price point, who would want those generic looking boats that show up at every corner... At least the British and Italian counterparts have character, and not a total abomination in design. Really hope Mark and Jack can review the F-Pace SVR before the 5.0L v8 goes away.
Well said. I switched from 2021 X6 40i to 2023 F-Pace SVR (after getting a 2023 F-Type between the SUV). The F-Pace is awesome. Jags have soul and great lines, the Germans cant touch with a 10 ft pole. Also, the interior on the F-Pace SVR is every bit the equal of the RRS and Velar, for lower price
FC P0606 for the B58 failure had me lose it 😂. When you guys mentioned "irrational", I completely empathize with that. For a while now, something about the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport has hit the sweet spot of feeling good to drive, while also feeling premium and remaining completely capable. You know in the back of your head that something (usually the air suspension) will fail horribly, but they look and feel so good that you try to justify it anyway. Maybe that Volvo reference is more spot on than I realized at first....
"a lot of these cars would be better and cheaper if you stripped out all the offroad capability" Nope. Thats why land rovers are land rovers. Its why they stand out from the rest of the generic luxury suvs. Because they can do everything the luxury SUVs can do, PLUS offroading. Its a shame you guys didnt do any offroad testing in this video because its really where Land rover's shine the most. Sure, the Range Rover/sport is less of an offroader than its predecessors now that the defender was brought in, but Land Rover prides themselves on ensuring every one of their products will have excellent offroad capability compared to their competitors in that class.
This car is 💩. As someone who see’a these are on a daily basis, this is a terrible car, your better of spending this amount on something else. These are are all tech base and problems. A customer came in with on of these and with only 500 miles the doors wouldn’t open, the trunk doesn’t open. And many other things. Ladies and gentlemen don’t get this car.
The problem with many youtube car reviewers is that they don’t give a **** about reliability and they don’t even discuss that important issue with such huge investment in high priced cars.
I always liked Aston's car design. Still subjective tho rarely, if ever, are any hit or miss. McLarens not bad- neither Lotus, Bentley.. JLR isn't the best imo but I like some their models; the new LR range rover, Jaguars older cars the XJ, E-type
I own the P360 and have to disagree with the aspects related to it being "cheap" or the least desirable option. This one is easily the most bang for the buck AND give you EVERYTHING that's available in the next trim up at $7000 LESS ONLY ~40 horses and ~40lbft torque. If you think a 0.3 second reduction in time in an ultra smooth cruising SUV is worth it then hey, more power to you. Regarding the +30k engine option of the First Edition with the BMW engine, that's when you can about guarantee faults to come with that powertrain. Ultimately, I have a vehicle on the road that next to impossible to get as a result of the current market and it looks BEYOND amazing. The white interior as opposed to black seen here also adds to the opulence and esteem. The only other note I have as a point of correction is that the piano black is THE EXACT SAME through every trim of the vehicle.
Lifelong Land Rover fan here and I dunno, the latest generation of LR products leave me pretty cold across the board. I find the new Range Rover (proper one) to be downright ugly somehow - despite it being theoretically beautiful and pretty inoffensive, it just looks off. And the Sport has always felt like a skim-milk version of the real RR, and these things just are too darn expensive to have any whiff of "the cheap one" - and I'm not even talking about the spec of the test car in this video. Any Sport, regardless of spec, feel like they just aren't the real deal - except maybe the SVR since that one has its own unique reason for being (and the real RR doesn't have an equivalent).
I had a 2016 diesel sport, only issue was ac compressor went out under warranty. Just got this exact 2024 in this gorgeous color and have to say the interior and ride quality are miles above the 16 (which i thought was amazing at the time). Also I think they knocked it out of the park with the redesign. Gorgeous.
Because they're totally in the same segment right? The fully loaded CX 5 will probably still be missing feature the base Range Rover would have standard.
@@homiefizzle5260 I agree that they are not in equivalent segments, and for some folk the minor advantages and prestige of the Rover Sport will be worth the extra 40+k. For me, I’d choose a pair of CX-5 Signatures in my garage vs one Rover Sport, but that’s just my preference.
the reason i like range rovers and landrovers,is the luxury combined with off road capability, when they work. If land rover was to ditch that, it would lose o alot of their character and clients i think.
Remove all the off-road capability? Blasphemer! Imagine a car with a Jeep badge that couldn't go off-road. Oh wait, the Jeep Compass. Anyway, BMW is playing it safe on design. Unlike their polarizing name automobile division, the styling here is a basic box with rounded edges. No much to look at, but not much to go wrong either. One thing's for sure, it won't be turning any heads with a wow factor. One more thing, why don't they use the whole screen for the camera view?
Ordered mine RR SE LWB 7 seater fully equipped (White Exterior, Black Shadow and fully black interior) and getting it delivered Dec 2023 or Jan 2024. Really excited to get it ASAP
90k base with the average american making 50k, the auto pricing is so disconnected from reality its so sad. 99% of cars on savagegeese these days will never be bought by the average person which is pretty sad imo
A buddy had a Sport about two years ago. It was gorgeous! They spent more time in a 😮dinky little loaner than the Sport b/c of electrical gremlins. Wound up suing LR and the company bought the thing back.
I still think it's crazy that this channel is sub 1mil subscribers. Doug Demuro used to be my favorite reviewer, that's changed. I love your videos and I look forward to each one you put out. Thanks guys!!!!! :)
cause that would utterly destroy the "SUVs give you lots of storage space for transporting stuff" argument. cause a VW passat station wagon has more storage space than this.
A friend bought a fully loaded Land Rover Discovery 3.0 V6 TurboDiesel 5 years ago. Not only it didn't it break down once, but it's been faultless since the begining. The only underside it's the often break jobs, being a very heavy vehicle, and of course the fuel consumption.⛽️
I haven't verified this but I have a feeling that the infotainment/tech improvement might have something to do with TATA's ownership of JLR. Tata consulting services might have partly or fully developed those systems.
I enjoyed how Jack “speaks” to mark by breaking the third wall in a way. Knowing that mark mark is doing the editing and Jack is doing the speaking ofc.
I simply call the Range Rover, "The Pimp Wagon". It is not an SUV. It's not even a 4WD. You can't even take this car off the road - EVER: you will wreck the wheels in less than 40 seconds. And do $10K worth of paint damage in 2 minutes. It's just a big, fat wagon where people with little imagination, and a bad case of Affluenza go to feel good about themselves. What is Affluenza? The uncontrollable desire to spend money you do not have, on things you do not need, in order to impress people you do not like.
I recently picked up a new Defender on air suspension. The adaptive shocks had an issue like they were stuck on full hard. The dealer wanted 6 weeks before they could look at it, a brand new car! No loan cars available. Basically they weren't helpful at all in trying to sort it out. I sold it after only a few weeks. I've heard parts are a VERY long wait and in some cases Land Rover are telling customers they have NO ETA on some parts. Have accident? You might be off the road for 6 months+. Lovely cars but I'd avoid them big time if you want to DRIVE a Land Rover as your daily.
I always Felt like Range Rover Engineering Is Trying To make the best Riding SUV , be it on road or off. I feel like they achieved that goal, and continue to do so, They have downsides like any brand, but I think their goal as a Brand is Right to where a Brand should aim to be. Too Expensive, But Every Vehicle is, so if that is put to the side, I think the Range Is the Best SUV unless your trying to track it for some reason, then you just go Porsche. I Think Range Rover as a brand would benefit alot from dropping the different 18 versions of each model, and Offering Just 1/2 Trims , No one wants piano black shit, save money , stop offering it.
generally, base model is lighter weight, and higher price options add weight but dont add structural strength to keep it just as safe as base model because its expensive and they can not be held accountable for that because the ihhs or ncap crash tests like that, only test one of the options, and as you can imagine, its probably the base model their testing. also, higher price options are geenrally useless stuff, and more you pay the exponentially less worthwhile things are
Abominations is the right word for some of the things out of Germany recently.
Especially the government politicians and their policies.
It's coming out of everywhere. Things you don't want to buy, but they're going to try and make you anyway.
@@MikeYurbasovich Like heat pumps.
I thought the same thing. But isn't it just BMW? Audi's SUVs aren't hideous.
@@ComptechTypeS The one SG just reviewed I find of a beautiful restrained elegance. Mark called it boringly corporate, but maybe mainly the interior. It's not necessarily a bad thing, considering what weird design failure is being committed elsewhere.
I’m a big fan of the interior and exterior design.
However if I became President my first order of business would be to ban piano black plastic.
I'd vote for that
and touchscreen HVAC controls.
Add videos shot in vertical format to the ban and I'll vote for you. What country are you planning to be President of, by the way? It might take me a day or two to get on the voters' list.
Don’t forget to include flushing doorhandles, individually wrapped candy and dönner kebap
If I was President I would ban all NFL teams except for the Chiefs
Love this market. Can't buy a normal-ass hybrid like a Maverick/RAV4/Sienna/whatever without a year-long waitlist and a big dealer markup, but damn do you have a lot of choices if what you want is a $100k luxury SUV.
Wait for what you actually want. It sucks... i waited a year and 2 months for a bronco. But its worth it.
Well no shit, its the free market. Cars are under-supplied right now so obviously the cars that the common man can afford have went up, since many people want them. Rich people can afford shit like this in general, therefore the price increase doesn't dissuade them from purchasing new cars, whether they're marked up or not.
@@Redrash12Car industry is about the farthest thing from a free market thanks to government regulations
Dunno if it’s true, but another comment says this has a two year waiting list
The manufacturers are deliberately keeping inventory scarce. Getting ready for a direct to consumer model. Dem EPA regs are also destroying the industry simultaneously.
Do you realize that ordering these things new is at least 2 YEARS out? That's a loyal customer base for you.
And if you need to repair something, parts are another 2 years out. Ask me how I know.
@@duckylucky6505 do they at-least give you a loaner for two years lol?
@@bobby4716 I think Mark and Jack are driving it.
Wow. Imagine ordering a new vehicle and when you get it, the generation is basically ready for a mid-cycle refresh
...and/or _REALLY SLOW_ production capability
Got me thirsting for Jack's B58 interrupt request. Well played Mark, took it away as quickly as you teased AI Jack
Ahahahahaaha 🎉 awesome and hilarious
The BMW chime was a nice touch tho
That was the best part of this video. I thought we were going to a Jack AI b58 rant but Mark pulled the plug.
Im also pretty sure the "connection failed" chime is the mid 2000s BMW chime. Please correct me if im wrong. Im an e50 m5 owner and have heard that chime wayyyy to many times.
The most off-roading these things will do is when the Barrington Mom curbs it while texting in line at Starbucks. 😂
…I have been touring across island with mine… 🤷🏻♂️. Do you know Island?😂
This is the one car channel I watch even when I'm not at all interested in buying the model they're reviewing.
By the same token, it’s got the only comments section worth reading in the automotive category.
Me too lol! This and Throttle House.
After finish warranty you will cry for it to repair this car 😂
I thought we all did
I got $78k "poverty spec" trim I guess that makes me poor. Thanks, Mark
Pleb
Glad you guys are finally reviewing something that isn’t the maxed out trim level.
I like so much about this, the looks, the inline 6, the ZF trans, the interior. I could go on and on. BUUUTTTT we do long drives home on occasion, often at night through the desert, and this is when I want a vehicle that I pretty much know with not give me any issues. This is not that vehicle. I hope some day that reputation improves.
It's gonna break in 5 years? Seems like 3 years worth of optimism to me.
3 years of warranty and after that you turn into Stockton Rush who pretended to have an engineering degree.
@@lukewalker1051 Stockton Crush
@@WKaliberr☠️
For those who didn't quite catch what he meant by 'GLR', he said 'JLR' and its a acronym for Jaguar-Land Rover.
Maybe he meant Geely-Land Rover?
Yeah thats what I thought at first but realised they are still a subsidiary of Tata Motors which owns Jaguar-Land Rover. But damn the whole who owns who of British car companies as confusing as hell...
@@dltmdwo_91 You are right, I just watched a Lotus SUV review... they are the ones owned by Geely
So sad to find out the Jaguar brand will be no more.
By admiring the LR’s styling and commenting about German (read, BMW) excesses, Jack and Mark will probably be branded by the Zoomers as “OK Boomers.”
Ok my initial reaction is for $85k as a base that’s insane, but it seems that thing comes with a lot of standard equipment. This is unlike the Germans who nickel and dime you with $50k in available options. So maybe it isn’t that bad after all. But gosh the cost of cars is going crazy… maybe I’m just getting too old.
Range Rover was expensive before it started to be accepted as ok. 😂
Cars are becoming more expensive and it's crazy!
You're not too old. You are applying common sense based on years of experience and learning from your mistakes.
85K (probably more like 100) is a lot of money and Jack made a great philosophical point: build a mall crawler at a lower price point. Not everyone who buys (or leases) this thing needs to be able to climb a tree in everyday use. It would greatly expand JLR's potential customer base.
@@gadeane287 Then it wouldn't be a RR. The brand is "off roading across the Sahara"; EVERY RR has to be able to do that. What you are describing is a Jaguar F-Pace.
@@trevorsutherland5263 I respect them for keeping the off road heritage going. I did the Land Rover experience in Manchester VT and its incredible to see what they can do when pushed to the limit. That's why they cost more and people are clearly ok paying for that, even if they never use it!
The BMW chime at 12:52 For Jack B58 was priceless 😅
It’s a shitbox. Drove a 2022 with 25k miles, and it rattled, struggled to get out of its own way, and the drive was no better than a 5 year old Tahoe. I don’t get it. I see why so many are being repossessed in my neighborhood. ;)
_Looking_ "boutique...expensive and special" is probably important for Land Rovers as their 31 out of 32 reliability doesn't allow for much time _on the road._
I've always felt the reviews of the low to mid spec versions of any vehicle are the best ones to watch. The inherent goodness (or lack thereof) is apparent when you have the base engine, the base seats, the base suspension, etc. If all of that is good and you come away feeling like "wow, awesome ride!" then that means a lot more to me. Porsche is like that---base Macan is a joy to drive. BMW, maybe Alfa....not Audi though; for Audi you CANNOT ever bother with the FWD stuff with the base 2.0 engine. If this RR Sport is this good at the base level, then JLR has hit one out of the park.
Mazda’s base-model Miata is the Sport, and nobody even knows it exists. That is just how the dealers want it, because they can then gouge their customers thousands extra for the Club, which comes with a few brand-name add-ons.
I’m enjoying the review of a base model without options. It’s much more representative of how fundamentally good the vehicle is, especially given that most dealer inventories contain only moderately equipped cars.
Aside from the fact that the Range Rover is in service instead of on the road, it's a great car to be seen in sitting in the service lounge waiting to get Range Rover back.
I think the air suspension is used by most drivers to avoid spilling their bubble tea when they hit a curb, again.
JLR is propped up by a great supplier base who charge them a premium for their small volume which translates into crazy prices.. as long as they can keep the image up, fair enough… maybe I’m just jealous.
They are in the process of bankrupting Tata, something previously thought impossible. Say farewell to the Jaguar brand.
@@johntechwriteryou are completely wrong bro, JLR just hit record sales 30% increase in sales…
Jack you two almost always talk about styling and you have very strong opinions on it. No need to act like you don't discuss you absolutely do at some point in your vids it comes out.
Unlike the typical fawning “automotive journalists” on YT, Jack and Mark actually have taste. This of course will earn them eternal banishment by the Zoomer generation, while Schmee and Supercar Blondie rake in the bucks.
@@johntechwritertruth be told supercar blondie would be raking in the big bucks no matter what she says about the vehicle lol.
No they only discuss Benz and BMW recent disgusting design trends.
I’m actually glad you got a chance to review the base trim. Get sofa king tired of seeing a vehicle start at $40k and then SG reviews the $65k TOTL variant. It’s like you tickle my balls and say here’s something you get only to slap my face and say Sike you can’t afford this.
Damn, I like RR for their ride quality and interior feel. For example, Velar is probably the only SUV that I can just WALK inside, without bending or stepping up. But when I imagine the horror of driving to dealer at least once a month, POS infotainment (in Velar at least) and HUGE price drop after 2 or 3 years of ownership - it's just not worth it, even leasing it is not worth the hassle.
The platform does look good in the shop segment, its nice to see all the little engineering and performance improvements they made there… too bad 99% of these wont see anything past a Whole Foods parking lot let alone any non paved surface
Who needs off-roading when our dilapidated road systems provide all the challenges you need?
@@obsoletecd-romunironically because in a lot of cases my dad's taco drives better than my Jetta on many roads
i believe, a great percentage of range rover loyal buyers are british rich farmers and land owners who may hunt occasionally. They wanna look cool but also need some offroad capability. so some of them are beign used properly.
@@obsoletecd-romgood thing president Biden passed the infrastructure bill, biggest investment since FDR, and everyone including Obama and Trump failed to do it until ol Joey did it
Apparently JLR executives celebrate when they’re not last last place in the JD power reliability rankings.
All the German high performance SUVs are going 20-30% more than these "boutique" brands, and they are producing the shit out of them. At this price point, who would want those generic looking boats that show up at every corner...
At least the British and Italian counterparts have character, and not a total abomination in design.
Really hope Mark and Jack can review the F-Pace SVR before the 5.0L v8 goes away.
Well said. I switched from 2021 X6 40i to 2023 F-Pace SVR (after getting a 2023 F-Type between the SUV). The F-Pace is awesome. Jags have soul and great lines, the Germans cant touch with a 10 ft pole. Also, the interior on the F-Pace SVR is every bit the equal of the RRS and Velar, for lower price
Surprised they are running BMW's V8, they might as well run the B58 for the base engine. B58s for all!!!
I don’t give a rat’s ass about Range Rovers and I still watched this whole thing, that’s how good this channel is.
The new Sport is incredible. The ride quality is truly amazing.
FC P0606 for the B58 failure had me lose it 😂.
When you guys mentioned "irrational", I completely empathize with that. For a while now, something about the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport has hit the sweet spot of feeling good to drive, while also feeling premium and remaining completely capable. You know in the back of your head that something (usually the air suspension) will fail horribly, but they look and feel so good that you try to justify it anyway. Maybe that Volvo reference is more spot on than I realized at first....
Great vehicle to lease. Keep it under warranty 24/7/365
That is NOT how a bottle is supposed to “fit” in the door card… 🥴🤦🏻♂️
Jack hopes to see us soon; "no you won't". Now I am frightened for his safety. 15:37
Like the ingenious name more then a alphanumeric gibberish likely to soon be forgotten
"this is the Barrington mom car"
That is extremely fitting, I would say Schaumburg mom as well but that's just me
They’re going to have to refresh and get wild because the bar has been pushed towards extremely ugly across the industry
True, but since they own the Boomer market, why compete with cheaper brands?
@@johntechwriter I’m talking about competing with Mercedes and BMW
Loving the 2018 Dodge Challenger R/T wheels
Nice review but this is not a 2024 model, this is the 2023. They made major interior changes for 2024 and you're going to confuse people searching.
Somewhere in Korea a Genesis designer is reverse engineering this thing to rebadge it as their 2026 model.
"a lot of these cars would be better and cheaper if you stripped out all the offroad capability"
Nope. Thats why land rovers are land rovers. Its why they stand out from the rest of the generic luxury suvs. Because they can do everything the luxury SUVs can do, PLUS offroading. Its a shame you guys didnt do any offroad testing in this video because its really where Land rover's shine the most. Sure, the Range Rover/sport is less of an offroader than its predecessors now that the defender was brought in, but Land Rover prides themselves on ensuring every one of their products will have excellent offroad capability compared to their competitors in that class.
Probably a nightmare for maintainance... Those Range Rovers are visiting the shoppe on a monthly basis when they get older. Correct me if I'm wrong!
Yes you are wrong
Shocking that the infotainment is so much improved. I'm impressed.
This car is 💩. As someone who see’a these are on a daily basis, this is a terrible car, your better of spending this amount on something else. These are are all tech base and problems. A customer came in with on of these and with only 500 miles the doors wouldn’t open, the trunk doesn’t open. And many other things.
Ladies and gentlemen don’t get this car.
Yes! They dropped the AI skit. The fake out was actually really funny.
Hope y'all get that CX-90 with the inline 6 for review, I really hope that engine makes it way to smaller models.
It isn't though. The inline 6 is only going to be in the cx90. Cx70 will get the phev 4cyl from reports.
@@barbecuetechtips6024 With the way things are going I'll end up with an inline-two; my two legs fred flintstoneing my ass to work in this economy.
I feel like they aren't doing the CX-90 on purpose.
@@josif-noahnagy-schuld7897yeah but we don't like diesels in North America unless they're in big trucks.
@@barbecuetechtips6024they aren’t gonna spend all that money developing a new power train and then only put it in 1 car.
83k day one
8.3k day after warranty expires
That piano black is a deal breaker. What an awful choice of material for any car, let alone a luxury brand.
The problem with many youtube car reviewers is that they don’t give a **** about reliability and they don’t even discuss that important issue with such huge investment in high priced cars.
You wonder who buys all the lease returns. I’d need an 11-foot pole before going near one of those.
On the contrary, there are plenty of youtube video that do long-term reviews.
The exterior and interior designs are soooo good now. The exterior looks like its been shaped out of a piece of billet steel.
I’ve long held that the Brits were, are, and always will be the best at styling cars. Better than Italy even.
I always liked Aston's car design. Still subjective tho rarely, if ever, are any hit or miss. McLarens not bad- neither Lotus, Bentley..
JLR isn't the best imo but I like some their models; the new LR range rover, Jaguars older cars the XJ, E-type
Cybertruck light. (Safer for kids.)
This looks like a bar of used soap, what styling?
I own the P360 and have to disagree with the aspects related to it being "cheap" or the least desirable option. This one is easily the most bang for the buck AND give you EVERYTHING that's available in the next trim up at $7000 LESS ONLY ~40 horses and ~40lbft torque. If you think a 0.3 second reduction in time in an ultra smooth cruising SUV is worth it then hey, more power to you. Regarding the +30k engine option of the First Edition with the BMW engine, that's when you can about guarantee faults to come with that powertrain. Ultimately, I have a vehicle on the road that next to impossible to get as a result of the current market and it looks BEYOND amazing. The white interior as opposed to black seen here also adds to the opulence and esteem. The only other note I have as a point of correction is that the piano black is THE EXACT SAME through every trim of the vehicle.
@@Catuyn17 Cute.
that's right - point on. not sure how these "reviewers" missed all that.
Lifelong Land Rover fan here and I dunno, the latest generation of LR products leave me pretty cold across the board. I find the new Range Rover (proper one) to be downright ugly somehow - despite it being theoretically beautiful and pretty inoffensive, it just looks off. And the Sport has always felt like a skim-milk version of the real RR, and these things just are too darn expensive to have any whiff of "the cheap one" - and I'm not even talking about the spec of the test car in this video. Any Sport, regardless of spec, feel like they just aren't the real deal - except maybe the SVR since that one has its own unique reason for being (and the real RR doesn't have an equivalent).
I can't wait to pick one of these up in 5 years with a broken air suspension and 15 fault codes.
Are you using crystal ball or tea leaves?
I already see the older ones in the junk yard 😂
Piano black in a rugged vehicle🤔
This is the SUV to buy when you want to show the neighbors that you literally have money to burn. And burn, and burn, and burn, and burn…
This is the SUV to buy when you want people to laugh at you for being such a dumb*** with your money.
I had a 2016 diesel sport, only issue was ac compressor went out under warranty. Just got this exact 2024 in this gorgeous color and have to say the interior and ride quality are miles above the 16 (which i thought was amazing at the time). Also I think they knocked it out of the park with the redesign. Gorgeous.
Hmm… should I spend 85k for a base LR Sport, or 42k for a fully loaded Mazda CX-5 Signature, for mall crawling?
Because they're totally in the same segment right? The fully loaded CX 5 will probably still be missing feature the base Range Rover would have standard.
@@homiefizzle5260 I agree that they are not in equivalent segments, and for some folk the minor advantages and prestige of the Rover Sport will be worth the extra 40+k. For me, I’d choose a pair of CX-5 Signatures in my garage vs one Rover Sport, but that’s just my preference.
JLR is the only manufacturer that employs a "Check Engine Light Not Functioning" light in their IP's.
Hope that reliability is improved. The sole reason I wouldn't buy one.
the reason i like range rovers and landrovers,is the luxury combined with off road capability, when they work. If land rover was to ditch that, it would lose o alot of their character and clients i think.
Why does Jack always sound annoyed?
Remove all the off-road capability? Blasphemer! Imagine a car with a Jeep badge that couldn't go off-road. Oh wait, the Jeep Compass.
Anyway, BMW is playing it safe on design. Unlike their polarizing name automobile division, the styling here is a basic box with rounded edges. No much to look at, but not much to go wrong either. One thing's for sure, it won't be turning any heads with a wow factor.
One more thing, why don't they use the whole screen for the camera view?
"Volvo feel" - come on, i own both (XC90 Inscription + 2023 RRS SE), they are not even in the same league.
Ordered mine RR SE LWB 7 seater fully equipped (White Exterior, Black Shadow and fully black interior) and getting it delivered Dec 2023 or Jan 2024. Really excited to get it ASAP
90k base with the average american making 50k, the auto pricing is so disconnected from reality its so sad. 99% of cars on savagegeese these days will never be bought by the average person which is pretty sad imo
A buddy had a Sport about two years ago. It was gorgeous! They spent more time in a 😮dinky little loaner than the Sport b/c of electrical gremlins. Wound up suing LR and the company bought the thing back.
Hi Mark and Jack, can you also review the RR Velar please.. want to know your thoughts of that car
82k for this unreliable pos lol
You Got the Uber Black Spec... all you need is it to be black....LOL
Me watching this video from Barrington 👁️👄👁️
LOL break in 5 years? you're giving JLR too much credit there.
Please review the new GLC, my wife’s boyfriend is looking into leasing one
I still think it's crazy that this channel is sub 1mil subscribers. Doug Demuro used to be my favorite reviewer, that's changed. I love your videos and I look forward to each one you put out. Thanks guys!!!!! :)
Still priced with 20% market adjustments in Boston area. Very low inventory available.
Your reviews are good, but when it comes to SUVs, why don't you ever tell us how many Velveeta boxes we can fit in the back with the seats folded?
cause that would utterly destroy the "SUVs give you lots of storage space for transporting stuff" argument.
cause a VW passat station wagon has more storage space than this.
@@anonym3017Well yeah cause the Passat wagon is a hell of a lot longer. You're comparing a full size platform to a mid size one.
@@GuyGamer1 we can also look at a skoda octavia. still has more luggage space.
"This is a base model".
Range Rover: That will be $85,000
A friend bought a fully loaded Land Rover Discovery 3.0 V6 TurboDiesel 5 years ago. Not only it didn't it break down once, but it's been faultless since the begining. The only underside it's the often break jobs, being a very heavy vehicle, and of course the fuel consumption.⛽️
Still ranked 31 out of 32 which is pretty much worst of the worst. I wouldn’t trust one of these overlanding.
Its all about maintenance. But as in all things, the more complicated, the greater the likelihood of a fault.
I have seen three of these in chain rear-end collisions in vegas. If you are the type of douche that loves to tailgate at 80MPH-this car is for you!
11:11 Paging Derek Tam HYPEHN Scott ISSIMI
I haven't verified this but I have a feeling that the infotainment/tech improvement might have something to do with TATA's ownership of JLR. Tata consulting services might have partly or fully developed those systems.
Tata has allowed the Brits to pretty much have it their way when it comes to configuration. But indeed, tech has always been a weak element at JLR.
Lease do not own and do not buy used unless you have deep pockets.
Man this new Kia looks like a Kia.
I enjoyed how Jack “speaks” to mark by breaking the third wall in a way. Knowing that mark mark is doing the editing and Jack is doing the speaking ofc.
I simply call the Range Rover, "The Pimp Wagon".
It is not an SUV. It's not even a 4WD. You can't even take this car off the road - EVER: you will wreck the wheels in less than 40 seconds. And do $10K worth of paint damage in 2 minutes. It's just a big, fat wagon where people with little imagination, and a bad case of Affluenza go to feel good about themselves.
What is Affluenza? The uncontrollable desire to spend money you do not have, on things you do not need, in order to impress people you do not like.
It's comforting to know that my half-cocked gangster lean will be well-accommodated in the 2nd row!
14:18 shoutout to my two bros!!
I recently picked up a new Defender on air suspension. The adaptive shocks had an issue like they were stuck on full hard. The dealer wanted 6 weeks before they could look at it, a brand new car! No loan cars available. Basically they weren't helpful at all in trying to sort it out. I sold it after only a few weeks. I've heard parts are a VERY long wait and in some cases Land Rover are telling customers they have NO ETA on some parts. Have accident? You might be off the road for 6 months+. Lovely cars but I'd avoid them big time if you want to DRIVE a Land Rover as your daily.
Why did they spec the press car with a piano black interior? Also, why offer it at all?
Saw one of these being loaded up on a tow truck on the side of the road today lol
great vehicle to own for up to 14 months
If JLR could source the S63 why couldn’t they get the …
I just bought one for my step sister
I always Felt like Range Rover Engineering Is Trying To make the best Riding SUV , be it on road or off. I feel like they achieved that goal, and continue to do so, They have downsides like any brand, but I think their goal as a Brand is Right to where a Brand should aim to be. Too Expensive, But Every Vehicle is, so if that is put to the side, I think the Range Is the Best SUV unless your trying to track it for some reason, then you just go Porsche. I Think Range Rover as a brand would benefit alot from dropping the different 18 versions of each model, and Offering Just 1/2 Trims , No one wants piano black shit, save money , stop offering it.
1:35 definitely not 118cuft storage capacity behind the front seats. From the website. Volume behind first row (cu. ft.) 53.00
_"Exterior styling is not something we normally talk about her."_ - Maybe you don't lambast every aspect, but Sg videos *almost ALWAYS talk about it.*
LOL! Base model...
😂😂🤣🤣 I'm poor.
generally, base model is lighter weight, and higher price options add weight but dont add structural strength to keep it just as safe as base model because its expensive and they can not be held accountable for that because the ihhs or ncap crash tests like that, only test one of the options, and as you can imagine, its probably the base model their testing. also, higher price options are geenrally useless stuff, and more you pay the exponentially less worthwhile things are
Had to rewind to make sure the tape measure part actually happened
I would lease one for 3 years and put the payments on my credit card .... if I had cancer and 6 months to live ...
@@proudam3969 Nah - I'd lease about 6 and default on them all.....lol
4:00 that's not what I call "a bottle fitting".
Sending base spec shows confidence 👍
No reliability