The Gentleman's Guide to Vampires: Followers of Set / Clan Setite
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- In which the Gentleman Gamer provides you with the dark on that most insipid of clans; the Followers of Set.
Maybe upon watching this video, the gentleman in question will have made you rethink all that you thought of the Setites, their motivations, their stereotypes and their clan structure..
As the original designer of the Followers of Set, I tell you sir that you nailed it in perfectly! Very good video!
Very kind of you to say so! Thank you!
@@TheGentlemanGamer I would like to see a video on the relationship between clans and the opinions of one another. Fantastic video!!
Personally I think the followers of set work better as a smaller sect independent of the cam or sabbat then a clan. However this was a fun video and a neat way to see it from their point of view.
@87Julius Not at all. The clans all embrace a different aspect of the vampire mythos. The Tzimisce are the hoary old Eastern Europe castle-bound lords. The Setites are the tempters and corrupters. The Toreador are lusty and seductive. The Gangrel are bestial and ferocious etc. I seem to manage the setting pretty well, but I wouldn't recommend throwing in all the other settings if you're running Vampire. Concentrate on the one thing irst.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful!
Ha, nice one as always. It's great to hear of this clan sinse it's used heavily in the dark ages game I'm playing at the moment. At one point I tought you were talking about the jehova's withnesses two blocks away from my house.
The Setites are one of the very few independent clans I really like. Them and Giovanni, that's about it.
Going to rewatch your nosferatu clan video now :)
But if Set was ruler of the Upper Kingom that demanded that the rules of Osiris be kept out of his section of Egypt, why are the Setites so structured, with a purpose, with rules? If we are all divine sparks, who rule ourselves unrestrained by the judgement of others or the ethics pre-programmed into us, how can any Setite tell another Setite what to do? Ich bin wie Set, und Set wie Ich.
@RogAlb1 Hurrah for the Setites!
I've never played it, alas!
The primogen of the followers of set would like me to remind you that their is no such thing as the serpents of light.
Exactly. . .smiles
@Onionkid99 I love the idea of Malkav, Set and Saulot all being actual brothers. It certainly shows three sides of an odd coin.
@woodwwad I can't think who.. Another universe, another deity.. Although 2nd ed Sutekh was a lot more like WoD Sutekh than the Chaotic Evil deity he became in 3rd ed for no reason.
Thanks for the compliment as always, big guy!
I've never played one but I always liked the Setites. A Malkavian character of mine had a Setite coterie-mate. I like how these two clans are so "generous". The Malkavians wanting to share madness, the Setites wanting to corrupt and test others.
Was Set the literal brother of Malkav or was it just through Caine's Embrace? The Malkavian clanbook is unsurprisingly ambiguous. Either way, our characters kept up the sibling rivalry dating back to Biblical times.
Sutekh himself is fairly nebulous.
@mollytherealdeal They do it to either get vampires to owe them something or merely to show how much more in control of their faculties they are than the average vampire.
The Followers of Set are one of my favourite clans. Brilliant video!
10:19 Best gesture :D So vampiric.
My favorite clans lorewise: 1. Followers of Set, 2. Tremere, 3. Salubri, 4. Cappadocian/Harbingers, 5. True Brujah (I know they're a myth)
When I first heard of the name Followers of Set I thought it was about Seth, Cain's brother, because of the whole abrahamic cosmology thing.
***** I didn't even notice that :) makes sense, because I always prefer the magical classes in RPGs
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elmetgwennhudkoad. I know its an old message but I personally like clans like Brujah and Lasombra clans that have physical strengh.
@tetsubo57 They're useful for when I play the piano.
Sometimes one undead monstrosity has access to something you want or need. A deal with the devil etc.
Just listening to your voice on this video in particular I was wondering, did you ever consider doing some stage or voice acting? That is to say I really think you could...
Warrior Setites are pure cultists and exist to follow orders. My bloodline thinks of them as Gargoyles in human form.
Hmm, seems I know someone who follows Sutek, hmm, who is that?
I like what you are saying about them being a cult. The fall from grace is so wonderful, it is really what makes the clan so wonderful. I really like the way they are shown to be almost another kind of creature in the WOD, it does make a bit of a problem when you try portray that while still being in the Generation rankings. Excellent job here.
@Chiived Caitiff? Yes, certainly. Serpentis would be an expensive discipline to buy for said Caitiff, but it could happen if a Setite embraced and regretted it or met final death soon afterwards.
I'm going to be storytelling for the first time with the setting taking place in New Orleans. Reading New Orleans Nights, I saw that Setites dwell around the warehouses in the docks. Along with reading their clan description in my handy V20 book, watching this video is a lot of help!
Tonight the first game will take place and my Follwor of Seth is ready to go. May the corruption light you path :-D
"I tell you that Set is my father; do I not do my Father's work? If set were your father, you would love me, but your father is Osiris."
From where?
@@NightshadeTS Lol I was paraphrasing the Bible, I was previously playing a Church of the Black Magdalene Setite.
@@NightshadeTS whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Church_of_the_Black_Magdalene
Unless you ara Kemintiri... then you can not give a flying serpent about clan/cult.
The west land was not reached by going across the atlantic
good, i really enjoy these, being a vamp noob. =)
Ah. I do like how the Path of the Serpent was in the Old Ages. It was less clearly one-sided on the moral spectrum and more open to interpretation.
Really love the Setites. Seems U don't like the clan. Insipids are the Tremere.
Great
A Guide to clans should be impartial
@decnet100 A surprising number of people have now suggested it, so I should really look into it.
@87Julius I will indeed be doing so, and I do like the Tremere. Not sure where you got that idea!
@falloutmnky Me too! I like the range of sects, clans, bloodlines, paths, roads, disciplines and so on.
@herkles1 Thank you! I agree; it's difficult to see how a cult can be a clan as such, but it seems to work.
Awesome Guide Mate!!!! Briliant job!
@hammeredshitsteak Poor Witnesses. "Buy our newsletter! Don't give blood!"
You have unusually long fingers.
Who would ever cut a deal with a vampire? Why would a vampire even cut a deal with another vampire? The only way to win the game is not to play.
Please, stop tracking me Google. Please, Discord, don’t sell my private conversations.
I've yet to read or hear much of it. I'm cautiously optimistic.
The Aeons are a Spook
So here's a question: How does the Philosophies of the "Setite Sorcerer" (Serpentis, Presence, Obfuscate) differ from the Warrior Setites (Presence, Potence, Serpentis)?
It's a matter of training apparently.
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This is fantastic!
@vivaladanisawsomes Thank you! Very kind.
JW much?
@CoolGuyInTheHat Their video will come!
Hail the Lord of Northern Skies! Great video wish the clan was a bigger part of the game.
Setites have always been one of my favorite clans. Never had an opportunity to play one though. :(
@clackclickbang Three-sided coins are the oddest of all! Sounds like some Sigilian currency.
Childer is the pronunciation in Vampire.
@odin422 I'm glad they're of assistance!
Tremendous presentation and very helpful for my Character development.
I don't suppose you're going to make a Tremere video any time soon? I know you said you don't like them so much because how they're overpowered. Which is true, in game terms the Tremere should already have killed off every other vampire clans by raining lightning on their heads. I think with a good GM their flaw can be pretty restricting, but yeah.
1you could play vtm bloodlines its a computer game its quite fun
2Or you could round up some buddies or find a group of people get go all table top old school with dice and character sheets etc etc
Excuse my ramble, but I find it to be quite a jest of a sort, for while you were speaking of the "maggot infested meat" as a comparison the Setite expansion throughout the world, I had this commercial for "the best quality sirloin steak 60% discount" hammering my eyes on the right from the video I so wished to concentrate on. I'm going to have to replay this breakdown yet again.
But how to get into it...
The Setites feel especially blessed.
That is their weakness in the video game Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines. The true clan Tremere has no real weakness but have developed an approximation of one over the centuries. These nights, members of clan tremere are very susceptible to Blood bonds and any Blood bond. that a Tremere is subject to is automatically a second level one.
Hehehehe.
Thank you for this guide. A friend of mine is just setting up a vampire group and i am really intrerested in the followers of set. This was... enlightening ;-)
Cheers from Germany!
That's how the Assamites see them.
Thank you, Germany!
I don't have much access to any information on the 2nd ed Sutekh. Was he really that much different than the third edition one?
That was another great Vampire Clan video. Never played with them, but their corrupting strategy makes them sound interesting.
All hail!
You should do a Gangrel video! They one of the most interesting clans in my opinion, and I enjoy these videos.
The setites just don't get it....the Serpents of the light sort of do....hence why they are in the Sabbat....poor Setites lol
Thank you!
Thanks!
@alokov Next to the Tremere.
I know this is a old video but why set and not Apophis or wadjet both would seem to fit way better for settiets powers and lore then set. Since set was a enemy of serpents and protected ra when he was on the throne. Is there wod lore that explains this, I know there is a rare cult of sobek in setiets lore but it seems set doesnt match the path of serpentis at all. If anyone knows please explain running a game with a setites that worships sobek and trying to wrap my head around all this and set just seems a odd choice to worship for a bunch of snake like vampires.
Hi. I know your comment is from years ago, but as a lover of VtM and Egyptian Mythology, I wanted to offer potential reasons. The most obvious would be that the writers really didn't delve that deep into Egyptian mythology. They wanted to create a "non-European" clan, and at the time Egyptian themes were mysterious and "romantic." Most people at least know the names Isis, Osiris, and Set. And Set's story could be molded into the WoD easily.
So, going back to your question, why not Apophis or Wadjet? Wadjet is a lesser goddess of protection. She simply is without enough story to justify making a clan after her. As he says in the video, worshiping Apep (Apophis) would be demon worship and fall under the realm of the Baali clan/bloodline. Apep is a being of Chaos and Destruction, and wants to destroy the world/order and return everything to nothingness/chaos. Set simply wants to rule over it all. It's easy to see why Set would be the preferred choice for a clan founder. If you read the Setite clanbook you'll see that they took some elements of Apophis and gave them to Set. In Egyptian Mythology Set does not truly fight against Ma'at (Order), which is why he protects Ra. Set's powers of destruction fall more so under necessary evils in the same why that hurricanes, tornadoes, etc are. Apep (Apopthis) on the other hand, is determined to destroy order and the world. He wants to return everything to the primordial waters. In that respect you could consider him (Apep) as true evil. In the clanbook it talks about Set fighting against the beings of order, called Aeons, who want to subjugate everyone and take away free will, etc. Once again, this is an obvious blending of Set and Apep. I recommend reading the clanbook, if you have not already done so.
Anybody else hate the new clan name like me
I like the ministry, is less in your face while making it clear that they provide a service and they are closely related to faith.
The Setites are supreme.
Thank you!
i have just now heard of this game how do you play it?
My favorite independent Clan.
awesome video!
You are most welcome :D
love the clan videos
We wuz kangz?
I'm not a VTM veteran, but I always felt these clans were kind of bizarre and hard to grasp. I don't feel like your exposé brought out anything that unique to work with, either. Do you think the setting becomes a chaotic patched work at some point? There can be only so many options before it starts becoming nonsense. Especially with all the other extensions - Werewolf, Mage, etc. Or maybe it just makes for a richer experience?
Question, why does he pronounce kinder, child-er, its a German word and should be pronounced as one.