It would make sense after all we know information is processed through the head of the next and then feed back into the nervous system of the pilot after some decoding and changing it.
Probably, this is how Lynx pilots could fry their brains with too much data feedback. Since we never see it, id assume it was like ghost in the shell or something. Some USB, HDMI and other cables jacked in to your neck.
That's accurate given the lore of armored core series. The best stuff is typically for elite corporate pilots or rich mercs, and mere luxury for grunt AC pilots and mercs.
About AC6. In game there are several times mentioned about "feeling an AC like your body" and stuff like that. Also look how 6 gen ACs moove, their movement is rather human-like. So I think those ACs are controled with some sort of nerve connection. Even non-augmented humans like Freud could do that I think.
In AC6, on quite a few cores, you can see a roughly sphere shaped module a little larger than a human under the gaps of armor plates. To name the sets that have these cockpits: Alba Melander Melander C3 Mind Alpha XC2000 CS5000 HAL 826 The rest are either too bulky to have an exposed cockpit module or too skinny and require special shapes for cockpits.
Ah yes, mechs piloted via keyboards. Nơ that I think about it, a control scheme utilizing a keyboard and a control stick doesn't sound too impractical, I like it.
@@NguyenHuuTrung_ ravens even back then knew the comfort and certainty of keyboard and mouse control. ...really though pretty sure it's just for sending commands to the onboard OS and not for controlling the craft directly. Possibly maintenance too, letting support staff run diagnostics through the onboard monitors without external equipment or the like.
After watching your Core Concept video, I really love how the Core is basically just a car built to be fitted with arms and legs instead of wheels. I think that's what really makes AC designs stand-out from other familiar mecha designs
@@armoredcorelore Machine translation always refers to mecha as aircraft. My phone has a good translation feature which I use to read blogs and posts from Japanese mecha fans, and no matter the franchise the translation software will refer to mechs as aircraft.
In AC2 during the intro cutscene and the beginning of the first mission, we get a glimpse inside the cockpit of an AC. More specifically the monitors and hud displays inside them.
I like to think that AC6 cockpits is the best for both worlds depending on how they value pilots, some are made expensive that are close to having a 360 panoramic cockpits, some are made with just Basic cockpit but get's the job done, while others like Handler Walter and the RRI uses a more taboo approached with coffin like cockpit with the bare minimum that link their mind to the machine to see and move. edit: in the end, it's always about the skills of the pilot to get the job done.
Excellent video! For the Armored Core 6 cockpit, I'd just like to add that if you do the math with the scale and size of the Lammergeier core. It's too small for a pilot to be sitting down. Which means very likely pilots in AC6 are lying down the same way we saw in the trailer directly plugged into the AC controlling it with their brain -
Or just an extremely reclined sitting position, similar to either an F1 car or, hilariously enough, a main battle tank. In both examples, your feet sit at roughly the same height as your rear. This would also help with vertical G forces somewhat, though in an AC that axis probably experiences the lowest forces compared to the others.
When they said the AC are armored coffins, it lives up to the reputation for those who are careless and those who falls within the heat of battle . For the NEXTS i can see they might use a neural interface, the AMS for them to fully utilize the full capability of their mechs. Within the battlefield, it's up to the RAVEN to survive the brutality of combat and live to fight another day.
@@Imagocorporation Given later generation ACs have technologies that render older cockpit designs obsolete, that's a given. Especially for pilots who utilize high speed mechs.
While we don’t know how AC6 cockpits are like, one thing is for certain is that there might be people who are surgically linked to the mech itself, like your character. Since Walter says that there is still time to undo the surgery
I always assume a NEXT cockpit is very similar to normal ac cock pits just your brain is plugged into the next with wires or tubes, but depending on your ams compatibility cockpits become emptier the higher your ams is. Lower lever ams pilots have more traditional cockpits to help ams connection/be a back up for parts of ams that don't work for them while higher ams pilots don't need things like screens or joysticks cuz they could be distracting to the lynx and worsen their connection (higher ams pilots need sensory deprivation) because how ams works i feel lynx dont need a vr style helmet, they can see what the nexts see through their own eyes cuz ams and how the neural connection would most likely be at the lower back of your head where all your visual stuff happens in your brain. Also if the connection is lower it could also connect to you spinal cord and cerebellum and interpret and physical movements you'd make and apply them to the next.
As for NEXT, could be possible that the cockpit is actually not directly connected to the core and connected through a very miniaturized seismic dampeners used for earthquakes, except these were more "reactionary" hence a more sudden and erratic shift on tempo of boosts, is not enough for the system to dampen the g-forces. Now this is where AMS or the direct nervous system connection comes into place, if the pilot has thoughts of about to use quickboosts, the system would read it and make appropriate motions and direction of the dampeners before the pilot could physical motions of pressing the button for quickboosts. It could also be possible that the dampeners aren't the real life modern ones, and are actually the very precise electromagnetic kind where the cockpit is technically levitating.
@@armoredcorelore Not really, well at least in AC6. In AC6, our pilot survives 2, or technically 3 cases of athmospheric heat entries. Our arrival at Rubicon, Fall of the Xylem in Liberation ending, and the Burning of Coral, in athmospheric entries. Our AC could probably survive the damage, but our pilot can easily be cooked. The only explanation I can think of is in Halo 3, where Mjolnir has a special gel as one of the failsafes that allows him to survive athmospheric entry, same thing could be applied here. In AC4, could be a combination of yours and mine, but that only ask the question that if the cockpit is completed sealed in order to properly contain the gel or leaking into the. cockpit. Why did Otsdarva says there was water leaking into his cockpit? Like sure, he was pretending to have died in that mission, but didn't we hear real waterleakage in the radio connection?
I really appreciate your consistent lore videos, you and the other creators that also relay AC storyline are an invaluable video for the English speaking fans. I always imagined the cockpits of AC4 NEXTs to be like those tubes from Evangelion as the AMS most likely have the pilot floating in some fluid. Thinking about how the body would have to endure quickboost G force, most likely the pilot is wearing some form of a protective suit as well.
Thank you for the kind praise and let me say thank you and all who watch my videos for giving me chance to talk about armored core. Its a pleasure to see others create videos on armored core and make the fan boy of me very happy. And i think your idea is better then my stick them in jelly.
@@armoredcorelore My idea is basically ripping off an anime so you're not far off with the jelly part. The LCL is literally the blood of Lilith which allows those teenaged pilots to interface with the giant EVA unit. It is later stated that the EVA units were mechanical biomechs that used the DNA of an angel, or Lilith to create them. The real scary part is the bio part of the mech is actually living and has a trapped soul inside, usually the parent's of the pilots.
i imagine the cockpits in AC6 could vary depending on the occupant, so for a half-corpse like 621, they probably get to be stuffed nicely inside the cockpit like canned meat, but for some rich Vesper who probably got to keep their human body, they couldnt make the squeeze into a cockpit like the EPHEMERA. just that
@@alessassela7691 yeah you can tell i didnt play through the entirity of AC6. Its just sitting there with a Coral weapon waiting to be murdered as i play Demon Souls and AC4 in a ps3 thats been more present in my life than a maternal figure
@@armoredcorelore Think of a Mecha the size of 4 meters and is mostly ground-locked and is powered by VERY flammable fuel with mecha designs from the guy who did Classic Gundam. Yeah.
A good video about the cockpits of armored core I alway try to imagine where the cockpit is in armored core 6 and try to image what kind of controls system is and the many components system in cockpit. so I always imagined a brain wave neural link interface system in the armored core 6 cockpit similar to a psycommu from UC gundam series but just a little creative thought of my so yeah good video explaining about the cockpit of armored core in detail of what information you gather so a very impressive work from you. 👍👌😁
Thank you and honestly being unable to tell you about the cockpits of 6 and next bothered me. But sadly there is little to next information out there that i have found. I hope that will change and one day all the cockpits of ac can been seen. And honestly your idea is far better then my it must be the same as the others.
Interesting how the cockpits really aren't standardized and are mouse traps worse than the cockpits found in other mecha properties: (gundam universes, votoms, etc). One good hull breach and it looks like you're locked in there.
@@armoredcoreloreClearly body retrieval is a thing, it has to be, think about how many Mecha are not completely destroyed, that would make some highly edgy and untouched taboo information, on body retrieval and death in armored core.
You can see that most 'mechas with such design aren't really feasible IRL since there's not enough space for the power plant (engine). For Battletech 'mechs at least, you can imagine that a micro fusion reactor can fit inside a Timberwolf's torso behind the cockpit.
Mechs would have to be stocky, and still roomy for a human occupant. Gundam technically if you think about it have way huger Mechs than Armored Core, think about Pacific rim and how much space is wasted with skinny ass people inside it. It's filler space, I think there's a lot of social idealism in designs rather than actual scientific mechanics, engineering and context. Why else are those damn exoskeletons taking so long? People are worried about looks.
@@Imagocorporation The only big humanoid "mecha" which makes sense design-wise is EVAs assuming that they function similar to real humans. Otherwise, take the Battletech 'mechs with their fat torso and spindly limbs, which are basically just walking weapon platforms.
cockpit of ACs from Vth Gen felt like the starting base point for the 3rd gen ones. It felt really rudimentary, like a tank commander compartment + fighter jet cockpit
Well we have to remember 5th gen acs are basically thrown together after the great destruction. Its why a lot of mercenaries would go for the cockpit and sell the acs left over for cash.
I mean, most armored vehicles don't have any. In aircraft it makes a lot of sense to have ejection, since an ejected pilot is relatively safe from being targeted by other aircraft, but in ground vehicles it checks out less. If an AC pilot ejects(or any mecha pilot for that matter) then the same threat that made them eject is still the same threat it was prior to ejection, just the pilot is sans their vehicle's protection.
@@bradl.602Ejection is kind of made obsolete it seems. Either that, or there is some form of emergency cockpit opening mid flight? I don't think any canon has mentioned it, and it's odd it's missing considering the ridiculous high flying fanservice the game offers rather than the realistic grounded quality of land based mechanics. It's realistic up to the point of flight, older titles had a weight drag system on flight, etc.
The trailer for that Amazon show, “Secret Level”, we see a bit of the inside of an AC. That show doesn’t seem to follow any timeline in particular so it’s either its own thing or a sneak peek at 7th gen
Armored Core NEXTs must have some kind of G-Diffusion technology similar to the Arwings in Starfox. It could be argued that one reason we know next to nothing about it is because it was an extremely classified piece of technology in the construction of NEXTs.
You very well could be right and you know what it would not surprise me. But i like to think at least one lynx or depressed corporation worker would have spilled the beans. Dam you from, give me my lore ha ha.
@@armoredcorelore Gundams in 00 have a similar technology due to how the GN particles work, probably there's Kojima radiation shenanigans at play in here.
i always wonder how a human would fit into an Armored Core, it seems AC itself is quite big, and i think 5th Gen not dat small too. Also, does dat mean 5th Gen AC piloting with 3rd person view? dat actually quite dope
Ac sizes have always been up for debate and the only size i can be sure of it next which had thier onw size section in the armored core 4 art book or was a new order for nexts. Still as for the 5th gen ac, i believe so. Which would be very cool as basically seeing what the lone mercenary was.
To me, a lot of AC cores look like they couldn’t even comfortably fit a human, much less a cockpit and internal systems. But I understand using logic would limit the creativity of AC designs, so it’s mostly a personal nitpick.
Which is fair, i think as you say we have lean a bit into the game side of the series more then reality. But it was a fun time seeing what the cockpits looked like. I would have at least liked a drink holder in one ha ha.
Very interesting aspect of the series. In Armored Core 2 the pilot can be seen going through menus on a screen in the intro. In the earlier PlayStation 2 games the enemy MT units stands for muscle tracer, the pilots have suits that monitor the movement of the pilot. If I remember correctly I think this was in the Armored Core 2 game manual. Surprised that the Armored Cores have more conventional flight sticks, although maybe that's in addition to MT suits?
interesting how in the first cockpit mentioned the main camera recorded is coming from the back, sorta like the old armored core grip? there is a connection to be made between holding the controller backwards and the cockpit camera in an ac being backwards
I dislike what they did for AC6. If i killed Snail in 10 seconds, he shouldnt be able to escape and come back as that annoying arquebus balteus. Thats just ridiculous as a plot device to me.
If I’m understanding the description correctly, the cameras placed around the AC (in AC 5, at least) are able to recreate an image for the pilot that’s similar to what we as players see when we play the game?
I have a tiny headcanon that in AC6 the Ephemera's cockpit is just a metal chair with a laptop stuffed into the core somewhere between the electronics and pipes
I don't know why I have always imagine that tank tread ACs are operated with tiller controls like an IRL tank, I think it's funny to imagine some operating a futuristic mech with old mechanical controls. BTW Iron orphans what a title. Lastly when it comes to Gundam what series would you recommend to start with?
That would have made sense, but i guess maybe ac designers like the old tech. And oh tough one. I have only watched a few like the original gundam, the 08 team one, war in pocket and i have got 0083 in my backlog to watch. Saying this i think 08 is a good one, but the newer gundam series seems to be getting a lot of praise.
Awesome just wish they where a bit longer. Thank you for the artwork but quick question why not include the video of Last Raven where you see the pilot exiting the ac and also in game footage from Silent Line which gives us an actual in cockpit view.
Well to be honest I thought the LR video had no place in the video, after all the book does a good job of showing this in more detail but it would have been more visual I admit. And as for the silent line one, I forgot about it ha ha.
@@armoredcoreloreMaybespecial emblem and paint pattern packs that you get as a free update. But I prefer collab from adjacent mech franchises, like symphogear and nanoha, not from some global gacha trash.
"Its noted that since the seat of the cockpit itself does not have contact with the interior of the core except near the back. This means that impacts from other areas than the back are diffused by each part section." That's... not how physics works...
@@armoredcorelore I figured afterwards they may mean spaced armor so if the armor outside bends it doesnt impact into the cockpit. Just japanesy translation stuff.
Wow. I always thought the pilot is in AC's body. Having them be in a vulnerable appendix right above the center of mass is not very logical. Also did you slow your speech down? I upped the video speed to 1.25x and it started feeling natural. If no I apologize.
I don't think so. Maybe i did and no worries its important as maybe i changed the speed of my speech without noticing. Or the script was written in a way that made me speak slower. 'll have to look.
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Some fans have theory AC 4 cockpit don't have monitor, the LYNX visibility is like VR camera and their nervous system is connected on their neck pilot
It would make sense after all we know information is processed through the head of the next and then feed back into the nervous system of the pilot after some decoding and changing it.
Kinda like how the Alaya-Vijana system from G-Tekketsu had retinal projection.
I liked imagining a more compact version of the Entry Plug cockpits from Evangelion for NEXTs
They would also be quite abit larger then a typical A.C.
Probably, this is how Lynx pilots could fry their brains with too much data feedback. Since we never see it, id assume it was like ghost in the shell or something. Some USB, HDMI and other cables jacked in to your neck.
Typical Mobile Suit Cockpit:
Airbag pilot suit
Inertia dampeners
Design infrastructure based on momentum
360 degree display for optimal combat awareness
Visual comms display
Emergency eject mechanism
Typical Armored Core Cockpit:
Pilot - Alive (Optional)
LMAO
Reminded me of Dreadnought from Warhammer.
Real
That's accurate given the lore of armored core series. The best stuff is typically for elite corporate pilots or rich mercs, and mere luxury for grunt AC pilots and mercs.
Especially with the Sobrero and Lamm core
Those things leave you one graze away from being smeared 😭
It's criminal that my gaming chair isn't shaped like this
I think asus sell an immersive multi monitor battle station like that.
Hear that.
About AC6. In game there are several times mentioned about "feeling an AC like your body" and stuff like that. Also look how 6 gen ACs moove, their movement is rather human-like. So I think those ACs are controled with some sort of nerve connection. Even non-augmented humans like Freud could do that I think.
Its a fair take, nexts also had the same idea with them being an extension of a lynx body. So maybe ac6 is a little mixture of all cockpit ideas.
In AC6, on quite a few cores, you can see a roughly sphere shaped module a little larger than a human under the gaps of armor plates. To name the sets that have these cockpits:
Alba
Melander
Melander C3
Mind Alpha
XC2000
CS5000
HAL 826
The rest are either too bulky to have an exposed cockpit module or too skinny and require special shapes for cockpits.
Nice.
Then there's the most recent ac part who is stripped of most of its armor and you can see the oval shaped cockpit below the head.
Armored coffins
@@dvd1098 I think i mentioned that one didn't i?
Are we gonna talk about how in the ac3 intro video it shows a dude just typing on a keyboard? Lol thats cockpit cannon
Ah yes, mechs piloted via keyboards. Nơ that I think about it, a control scheme utilizing a keyboard and a control stick doesn't sound too impractical, I like it.
@@NguyenHuuTrung_ ravens even back then knew the comfort and certainty of keyboard and mouse control.
...really though pretty sure it's just for sending commands to the onboard OS and not for controlling the craft directly. Possibly maintenance too, letting support staff run diagnostics through the onboard monitors without external equipment or the like.
@@TustlePlays Ah, make sense, in a combat scenario you wouldn't be able to type correctly most of the time for various reasonS, very situational
Wasn't that AC2? In Last Raven, we can see Zinaida climbing out of her cockpit, it slides back, pretty much like in AC5.
@@OCTO358 yeah, come to think of it...AC2 Another Age had the scene of a Raven typing diagnostics prompts into his AC's cockpit.
Ever since getting introduced to the series, I've been wondering how the cockpit looked like. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for giving it a watch. I hope one day I'll be able to update it with ac6 and maybe next cockpits.
After watching your Core Concept video, I really love how the Core is basically just a car built to be fitted with arms and legs instead of wheels. I think that's what really makes AC designs stand-out from other familiar mecha designs
It certain does. Mind you armored cores are referred too as aircrafts too, so it kind of a mixture that works.
LMAOOOO, basically
@@armoredcorelore Machine translation always refers to mecha as aircraft. My phone has a good translation feature which I use to read blogs and posts from Japanese mecha fans, and no matter the franchise the translation software will refer to mechs as aircraft.
@@sadierobotics True, but seeing as most of these where paid translates i hope the translator was not not using machine translations.
In AC2 during the intro cutscene and the beginning of the first mission, we get a glimpse inside the cockpit of an AC. More specifically the monitors and hud displays inside them.
We do, and I was thinking about using that cutscene for the video. But then I saw the drawing in the guide book and thought this is better.
@@armoredcorelore isn't there also the Master of Arena opening cutscene?
@@yowai1604 There is, but its very short and really you can only see the monitors not the cockpit itself.
@@yowai1604 It's a very short clip of it like in AC2, but yes kinda.
Because of the keyboard in that cutacene I wondered if it was the operator rather than the pilot.
If you thing AC is too dangerous to pliot, wait until you see the Knightmare Frame in Code Geass.
@@chillzaa99 Britannia frames are wicked.
I like to think that AC6 cockpits is the best for both worlds depending on how they value pilots, some are made expensive that are close to having a 360 panoramic cockpits, some are made with just Basic cockpit but get's the job done, while others like Handler Walter and the RRI uses a more taboo approached with coffin like cockpit with the bare minimum that link their mind to the machine to see and move.
edit: in the end, it's always about the skills of the pilot to get the job done.
True and ac6 cockpit may end up like ac4 cockpits to us. A mystery until from lets us know.
finally, a telling of a lore accurate ac cockpit
Well i mean the ac wiki has had information on cockpits for quite a while now. But i am glad to see people are enjoying this i was worried ha ha.
Excellent video! For the Armored Core 6 cockpit, I'd just like to add that if you do the math with the scale and size of the Lammergeier core. It's too small for a pilot to be sitting down. Which means very likely pilots in AC6 are lying down the same way we saw in the trailer directly plugged into the AC controlling it with their brain -
Or just an extremely reclined sitting position, similar to either an F1 car or, hilariously enough, a main battle tank. In both examples, your feet sit at roughly the same height as your rear. This would also help with vertical G forces somewhat, though in an AC that axis probably experiences the lowest forces compared to the others.
@@TheRoyalSkies when Index Dunham said you’re going home in armored coffins, he meant Lam core
Ah I knew maths would catch me out ha ha. I appreciate the information, I just wish we got to see in an ac6 cockpit that would have been ace.
Interesting. I have not experience with F1 cars or tanks, so I'm learning too.
Don't head cannon your way out of plot holes. Just accept them, critique the game/film/book and move on
I imagine the Armored Core pilot suits being in the same vein as Zone of the Enders and Gundam.
Funny enough there is a page on the suits ravens wore in the book.
When they said the AC are armored coffins, it lives up to the reputation for those who are careless and those who falls within the heat of battle . For the NEXTS i can see they might use a neural interface, the AMS for them to fully utilize the full capability of their mechs. Within the battlefield, it's up to the RAVEN to survive the brutality of combat and live to fight another day.
All very true and seeing all these cockpits. I dread to think what nexts would be like.
This basically confirms that the cockpits have no one canonical look.
@@Imagocorporation
Given later generation ACs have technologies that render older cockpit designs obsolete, that's a given. Especially for pilots who utilize high speed mechs.
Yes!!! This video puts the Core in Armored Core!!!
Ha ha well at least it did not armour your core. Is that the thing? Did i do it right?
@@armoredcorelore the cockpit is located in the core, which is armored. The whole concept is based on the cockpit, in my opinion.
@@georgemam4804 I have never said cockpit so much in my life. I wish to never do it again.
@@armoredcorelore I am an aeronautical engineer who builds a lot of aircraft models, so...
Cockpit.
While we don’t know how AC6 cockpits are like, one thing is for certain is that there might be people who are surgically linked to the mech itself, like your character. Since Walter says that there is still time to undo the surgery
Very true, we've had a lot of ideas what ac6 cockpits in the comments which makes me very happy.
I always assume a NEXT cockpit is very similar to normal ac cock pits just your brain is plugged into the next with wires or tubes, but depending on your ams compatibility cockpits become emptier the higher your ams is. Lower lever ams pilots have more traditional cockpits to help ams connection/be a back up for parts of ams that don't work for them while higher ams pilots don't need things like screens or joysticks cuz they could be distracting to the lynx and worsen their connection (higher ams pilots need sensory deprivation)
because how ams works i feel lynx dont need a vr style helmet, they can see what the nexts see through their own eyes cuz ams and how the neural connection would most likely be at the lower back of your head where all your visual stuff happens in your brain. Also if the connection is lower it could also connect to you spinal cord and cerebellum and interpret and physical movements you'd make and apply them to the next.
See you all come up with cool ideas. What do I come up with jelly ha ha.
As for NEXT, could be possible that the cockpit is actually not directly connected to the core and connected through a very miniaturized seismic dampeners used for earthquakes, except these were more "reactionary" hence a more sudden and erratic shift on tempo of boosts, is not enough for the system to dampen the g-forces.
Now this is where AMS or the direct nervous system connection comes into place, if the pilot has thoughts of about to use quickboosts, the system would read it and make appropriate motions and direction of the dampeners before the pilot could physical motions of pressing the button for quickboosts.
It could also be possible that the dampeners aren't the real life modern ones, and are actually the very precise electromagnetic kind where the cockpit is technically levitating.
I admit reading this, i feel my jelly idea is really stupid ha ha.
@@armoredcorelore Not really, well at least in AC6.
In AC6, our pilot survives 2, or technically 3 cases of athmospheric heat entries. Our arrival at Rubicon, Fall of the Xylem in Liberation ending, and the Burning of Coral, in athmospheric entries. Our AC could probably survive the damage, but our pilot can easily be cooked.
The only explanation I can think of is in Halo 3, where Mjolnir has a special gel as one of the failsafes that allows him to survive athmospheric entry, same thing could be applied here.
In AC4, could be a combination of yours and mine, but that only ask the question that if the cockpit is completed sealed in order to properly contain the gel or leaking into the. cockpit. Why did Otsdarva says there was water leaking into his cockpit? Like sure, he was pretending to have died in that mission, but didn't we hear real waterleakage in the radio connection?
You know saying that I am going to have to go back and get that audio now. I'll be back when I have.
I really appreciate your consistent lore videos, you and the other creators that also relay AC storyline are an invaluable video for the English speaking fans. I always imagined the cockpits of AC4 NEXTs to be like those tubes from Evangelion as the AMS most likely have the pilot floating in some fluid. Thinking about how the body would have to endure quickboost G force, most likely the pilot is wearing some form of a protective suit as well.
Thank you for the kind praise and let me say thank you and all who watch my videos for giving me chance to talk about armored core. Its a pleasure to see others create videos on armored core and make the fan boy of me very happy.
And i think your idea is better then my stick them in jelly.
@@armoredcorelore My idea is basically ripping off an anime so you're not far off with the jelly part. The LCL is literally the blood of Lilith which allows those teenaged pilots to interface with the giant EVA unit. It is later stated that the EVA units were mechanical biomechs that used the DNA of an angel, or Lilith to create them.
The real scary part is the bio part of the mech is actually living and has a trapped soul inside, usually the parent's of the pilots.
@@azurespectrum1985 Ah well that took a dark turn ha ha.
This was something I’ve been wondering about for a long time, and I’m glad you made a video to show different versions of AC cockpits.
Ah i do wish i could have shown the ac4 and 6 cockpits. But glad i was able to do this video.
@@armoredcorelore I imagine the cockpits in AC6 as a sort of hybrid of the Gundam IBO cockpit design and the designs from other AC universes.
@@hunterjones8434 Which is fair, as ac6 did not want to show its cockpits.
I always wondered what the cockpit of an armored core was like and how it looks
Boy have I got a video to show you
Me too ha ha. Honestly i should have made this video ages ago.
=)
@@cinema_roll6296ok and the video?
This video was a treasure trove of vital details for lore hounds like us.
Glad to hear this. I admit there is little to go off but hopefully this will do for a start.
that moment when you realize there wont be another armored core for 10 years ;'[
I might be able to catch up with lore. No i think from is already cooking maybe a souls game to bring in some cash and then a ac game.
The armored core 3 intro shows what might be a cockpit of someone typing on a keyboard frantically xD. Of course it could be an operator.
Thought the same when I saw it. Which is why I went with the last raven cockpit as it had more detail.
As every good mercenary knows, you've got to work to get a head.
Or rip one off another ac. Oh what that's ac5 logic there.
i imagine the cockpits in AC6 could vary depending on the occupant, so for a half-corpse like 621, they probably get to be stuffed nicely inside the cockpit like canned meat, but for some rich Vesper who probably got to keep their human body, they couldnt make the squeeze into a cockpit like the EPHEMERA. just that
Armored coffin indeed.
621 isn't a half corpse, he can move freely and talk like everyone, otherwise he couldn't be able to escape the rieducation facility
@@alessassela7691 yeah you can tell i didnt play through the entirity of AC6. Its just sitting there with a Coral weapon waiting to be murdered as i play Demon Souls and AC4 in a ps3 thats been more present in my life than a maternal figure
Man. These AC cockpit are very cramped and the ACs themselves are short even compared to latter UC Gundams.
Armored coffins to the end.
@@armoredcorelore Could be worse. You could be piloting an Armored Trooper from VOTOMS.
I dread to look it up.
@@armoredcorelore Think of a Mecha the size of 4 meters and is mostly ground-locked and is powered by VERY flammable fuel with mecha designs from the guy who did Classic Gundam. Yeah.
A good video about the cockpits of armored core I alway try to imagine where the cockpit is in armored core 6 and try to image what kind of controls system is and the many components system in cockpit.
so I always imagined a brain wave neural link interface system in the armored core 6 cockpit similar to a psycommu from UC gundam series but just a little creative thought of my so yeah good video explaining about the cockpit of armored core in detail of what information you gather so a very impressive work from you. 👍👌😁
Thank you and honestly being unable to tell you about the cockpits of 6 and next bothered me. But sadly there is little to next information out there that i have found. I hope that will change and one day all the cockpits of ac can been seen. And honestly your idea is far better then my it must be the same as the others.
Interesting how the cockpits really aren't standardized and are mouse traps worse than the cockpits found in other mecha properties: (gundam universes, votoms, etc). One good hull breach and it looks like you're locked in there.
Now we know why so many ravens kicked the bucket. Its kind of scary to think about.
@@armoredcorelore yeah, totally!
@@armoredcoreloreClearly body retrieval is a thing, it has to be, think about how many Mecha are not completely destroyed, that would make some highly edgy and untouched taboo information, on body retrieval and death in armored core.
@@Imagocorporation sadly all this makes me think of is corporation hit squads who go out and make sure if a raven fails them, they never speak again.
You can see that most 'mechas with such design aren't really feasible IRL since there's not enough space for the power plant (engine). For Battletech 'mechs at least, you can imagine that a micro fusion reactor can fit inside a Timberwolf's torso behind the cockpit.
Mechs would have to be stocky, and still roomy for a human occupant. Gundam technically if you think about it have way huger Mechs than Armored Core, think about Pacific rim and how much space is wasted with skinny ass people inside it. It's filler space, I think there's a lot of social idealism in designs rather than actual scientific mechanics, engineering and context. Why else are those damn exoskeletons taking so long? People are worried about looks.
@@Imagocorporation The only big humanoid "mecha" which makes sense design-wise is EVAs assuming that they function similar to real humans. Otherwise, take the Battletech 'mechs with their fat torso and spindly limbs, which are basically just walking weapon platforms.
True and we are going to run into this with ac, a lot of things lean heavily into the game side of things.
cockpit of ACs from Vth Gen felt like the starting base point for the 3rd gen ones. It felt really rudimentary, like a tank commander compartment + fighter jet cockpit
Well we have to remember 5th gen acs are basically thrown together after the great destruction. Its why a lot of mercenaries would go for the cockpit and sell the acs left over for cash.
The AC2 intro has lots of cool shots from within the cockpit.
It does, but I looked at it and then at the book and thought the book did a better job of showing the cockpit.
This better explain why ACs don't have an ejection system
Funny enough not a mention of an ejection system in any of the texts.
I mean, most armored vehicles don't have any. In aircraft it makes a lot of sense to have ejection, since an ejected pilot is relatively safe from being targeted by other aircraft, but in ground vehicles it checks out less. If an AC pilot ejects(or any mecha pilot for that matter) then the same threat that made them eject is still the same threat it was prior to ejection, just the pilot is sans their vehicle's protection.
@@bradl.602Ejection is kind of made obsolete it seems. Either that, or there is some form of emergency cockpit opening mid flight? I don't think any canon has mentioned it, and it's odd it's missing considering the ridiculous high flying fanservice the game offers rather than the realistic grounded quality of land based mechanics. It's realistic up to the point of flight, older titles had a weight drag system on flight, etc.
would love to have an Armored Core game with a cockpit view instead of 3rd person
It be a change to experiment with. But i think people would like a 3rd and cockpit view to be fair to all.
@@armoredcorelore having both would better but if i had to pick only 1, i'd pick cockpit view.
@@f.b.l.9813 Fair plus it be a sorta new thing for an ac game.
The trailer for that Amazon show, “Secret Level”, we see a bit of the inside of an AC. That show doesn’t seem to follow any timeline in particular so it’s either its own thing or a sneak peek at 7th gen
True, i just don't know where it being put lore wise. As a lot of people think the ac we see is a next.
Thank you as always for making this lore videos
And thank you for watching. I hope you enjoyed.
Armored Core NEXTs must have some kind of G-Diffusion technology similar to the Arwings in Starfox. It could be argued that one reason we know next to nothing about it is because it was an extremely classified piece of technology in the construction of NEXTs.
You very well could be right and you know what it would not surprise me. But i like to think at least one lynx or depressed corporation worker would have spilled the beans. Dam you from, give me my lore ha ha.
@@armoredcorelore Gundams in 00 have a similar technology due to how the GN particles work, probably there's Kojima radiation shenanigans at play in here.
I will have take your word as I have never seen 00. Only played the sd games with them in.
I recommend reading Another Stories 1 and 3, as both talk about AMS and tech relating to it.
Thank you Anatolia i will.
@@armoredcorelore Sent you two links in your server.
@@AnatoliasAce3341 Thank you. I will check them out.
i always wonder how a human would fit into an Armored Core, it seems AC itself is quite big, and i think 5th Gen not dat small too. Also, does dat mean 5th Gen AC piloting with 3rd person view? dat actually quite dope
If the math people start pulling up scales, and doing comparisons and lists of other mecha, Japan is gonna start screaming
Japan exaggerates alot.
Ac sizes have always been up for debate and the only size i can be sure of it next which had thier onw size section in the armored core 4 art book or was a new order for nexts. Still as for the 5th gen ac, i believe so. Which would be very cool as basically seeing what the lone mercenary was.
We know someone will do it. in fact i feel a certain purple wizard already did.
To me, a lot of AC cores look like they couldn’t even comfortably fit a human, much less a cockpit and internal systems.
But I understand using logic would limit the creativity of AC designs, so it’s mostly a personal nitpick.
Which is fair, i think as you say we have lean a bit into the game side of the series more then reality. But it was a fun time seeing what the cockpits looked like. I would have at least liked a drink holder in one ha ha.
@@armoredcoreloreJapan and it's modern culture, all that has to be said. 💀
Very interesting aspect of the series. In Armored Core 2 the pilot can be seen going through menus on a screen in the intro. In the earlier PlayStation 2 games the enemy MT units stands for muscle tracer, the pilots have suits that monitor the movement of the pilot. If I remember correctly I think this was in the Armored Core 2 game manual. Surprised that the Armored Cores have more conventional flight sticks, although maybe that's in addition to MT suits?
There is a little section on pilot suits for last raven. I'll have to get it translated and see what it brings up.
Gen 5 is Armored Coffin lol
It is really scary. Like yeah its a little safer as long as you don't get stabbed or shot in the back then your really dead.
I always found this technical aspect of mecha fascinating! Glad you made this video! More like this please!
Happy to hear that as I'll keep digging to see if I can get more out of the books.
@@armoredcorelore I can hardly wait.😎👍🏽
interesting how in the first cockpit mentioned the main camera recorded is coming from the back, sorta like the old armored core grip? there is a connection to be made between holding the controller backwards and the cockpit camera in an ac being backwards
The secret is out.
@@armoredcorelorePlayer is the camera LMAO
@@armoredcoreloreThe player is the AI.
I dislike what they did for AC6. If i killed Snail in 10 seconds, he shouldnt be able to escape and come back as that annoying arquebus balteus. Thats just ridiculous as a plot device to me.
We do dislike plot armor here. No I do agree with you here, i like snail as that really evil person. But he came back too many times.
Wait the cockpits arnt just a bunch of CRTs with a PS2 controller in armored core grip
mode?
I know. Not even a cup holder either.
5th gen had too many books imo, but I think that's to make up for the cut content. Interesting stuff! Really good vid.
It does, but there is so much in them which is as you say is really cool. And thank you.
Oh hell yeah! We eating good today!
Hell yes!
Got two vids today looks like ACL is spoiling us ❤
Ah well i did promise these after i missed last week. So i am glad i was able to keep that promise.
If I’m understanding the description correctly, the cameras placed around the AC (in AC 5, at least) are able to recreate an image for the pilot that’s similar to what we as players see when we play the game?
That is what i got from it.
@armoredcorelore That’s frickin’ awesome. Really helps sell the idea that we’re actually piloting the thing.
@@drjcup3228 It does, from did well here.
x-Sobrero brings up the most questions
Also Shoji kawamori is known for designs off center cockpits
Fragile and his next are just a series of question i swear ha ha. And neat did not know that.
I have a tiny headcanon that in AC6 the Ephemera's cockpit is just a metal chair with a laptop stuffed into the core somewhere between the electronics and pipes
Nice, like it.
always been interested in this!
Nice! I admit a cockpit video is something i should have done a long time ago.
I don't know why I have always imagine that tank tread ACs are operated with tiller controls like an IRL tank, I think it's funny to imagine some operating a futuristic mech with old mechanical controls.
BTW Iron orphans what a title. Lastly when it comes to Gundam what series would you recommend to start with?
That would have made sense, but i guess maybe ac designers like the old tech. And oh tough one. I have only watched a few like the original gundam, the 08 team one, war in pocket and i have got 0083 in my backlog to watch.
Saying this i think 08 is a good one, but the newer gundam series seems to be getting a lot of praise.
Awesome just wish they where a bit longer. Thank you for the artwork but quick question why not include the video of Last Raven where you see the pilot exiting the ac and also in game footage from Silent Line which gives us an actual in cockpit view.
Well to be honest I thought the LR video had no place in the video, after all the book does a good job of showing this in more detail but it would have been more visual I admit. And as for the silent line one, I forgot about it ha ha.
I wish could make armored core collabs like ashe from league of legends eula, raiden ei, dehya and xianyun from genshin and what not
It be interesting to see what they do with it. After all ac does lack human characters, so maybe power up items or costumes?
@@armoredcoreloreMaybespecial emblem and paint pattern packs that you get as a free update.
But I prefer collab from adjacent mech franchises, like symphogear and nanoha, not from some global gacha trash.
AC6ではACの全高が約10mで、コアにパイロットの他にジェネレータとラジエータが収まっているので、コックピットは想像を絶するほど狭い
I see. Could you perhaps tell me where you got this from? なるほど。これはどこから手に入れたのか教えていただけますか?
Nice info on the Ac Cockpit
Thank you.
The nitty-gritty of AC lore.
Oh it is.
If I could request anything.
Would love a video breaking down drone/orbit weapons. Good stuff as usual man. 👌
Thank you for the kind praise and you know i think i already have that subject on my list to do. So you might be in luck. I just need time ha ha.
"Its noted that since the seat of the cockpit itself does not have
contact with the interior of the core except near the back.
This means that impacts from other areas than the back are diffused by each part section."
That's... not how physics works...
Ha ha well we better take it up with from then, as that is what is written in thier book.
@@armoredcorelore I figured afterwards they may mean spaced armor so if the armor outside bends it doesnt impact into the cockpit.
Just japanesy translation stuff.
Honestly you could be right. Translations are always a little tricky.
I wonder if Secret Level will give more details during the AC6 segment?
Who knows? A lot of people feel the show is more focused on nexts rather then armored cores. But its a waiting game.
Thank you for this information
No problem.
Weren’t there depictions of the cockpit in the Tower City Blade manga?
We did but they where a lot of people leaning over keyboards and one guys ac core blown wide open so not much left to look over.
Meanwhile inside "Human PLUS" cockpits
**insert Ein Dalton's cockpit** (Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans)
Madness.
2 videos in 1 day?
Made a promise i would after missing last weeks.
Wow. I always thought the pilot is in AC's body.
Having them be in a vulnerable appendix right above the center of mass is not very logical.
Also did you slow your speech down? I upped the video speed to 1.25x and it started feeling natural.
If no I apologize.
I don't think so. Maybe i did and no worries its important as maybe i changed the speed of my speech without noticing. Or the script was written in a way that made me speak slower. 'll have to look.
GUNDAM MOBILE SUIT IRON BLOODED ORPHANS? I LOVE GUNDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!
Love for all the mecha anime and games here.
Ayre is my Waifu. UwU
Ha ha well everyone got to have one.
She is voiced by Power in Japan.
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@armoredcorelore I Just wanted to pot in a comment even if It's nothing because I don't think i'm interesting enough to think of anything interesting to say,But I hope Commenting something help your channel in some way.Which was the original goal
Don't give up👍👍
@@axelmartinez2413 and I appericate that so thank you. Honestly I am the same with comments on videos I watch, so no worries.
Um I guess am first?
According to my TH-cam data.....Yes you are. Here have a lore cookie ha ha.