Exeptionalism indeed! Look at the table at 1.33, you will accept free movement for access to the single market but you won't accept the EU-rules or courts of that same market?? Grow up, you are a rather tiny country in decline not an empire!
Brexit sounds more and more like "Free beer tomorrow". We are still waiting for brexitiers to list the advantages we have seen since 2016 whereas the disadvantages are clear and obvious every day.
Brexit benefits have virtually become 'Surplus to Requirements'. I bet Farage can't believe his luck that his 20 years mission of failure, has been deliberately overlooked, or avoided, by the public.
hahahaha, closer to the Eu would jeopardise these wonderful trade deals the Uk has now because of leaving. You mean the ones with Australia and New Zealand that's screwing British farmers? That would indeed be such a shame. These people are mad.
@@camo68 The EU/Merconsur agreement will slash tariffs of between 10%-35% on EU cheese and other dairy products, wine, spirits and chocolate; Mercosur countries will also remove duties from more than 90% of EU imports, including the 35% duty on cars as well as tariffs on parts, machinery, chemicals and pharmaceuticals, A MARKET OF 700 MILLION. NOT JUST ABOUT FARMERS.
@@camo68 1)If the EU did what UK tories have done to UK farmers, there ould be even more protest from EU farmers. 2)it has been heard before (but not abaout tories) that governments do one thing right, and others less right. Uniting against Trump etc would be right.
Well MZ had been Shipping sheep meat to the UK since 1892. And in the last decade never got within 75% of their quota. That trade deal will make little difference to the UK farmers.
@@marinusvos Brexiteers would indeed see being treated just like the other guy as “a disgrace” (as Truss once put it). They except to be welcomed on red carpet, they still dream of the realm over which the sun doesn’t set… I’m afraid the CPTPP will be a bit of a disappointment in that, though. :-/
@@marinusvos No, it isn't. British people might think it is but they have already given up their privileges in exchange for "taking control back". Even if rejoin will happen, I'm quite sure that they must introduce EUR instead of GDP.
@@LaNfinity What @marinusvos is saying is that good old adage of "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" - Of course they're not being punished, they only see it that way because they're losing the privileges of the (EU) club members, and in their infinite privileged imperialistic cognitive dissonance they don't understand why...
Finally i get validation from what i said from the beginning and people were scolding je for it. The UK goes back to the very painful seventies. It is rather sad to see i was right from the beginning. When the UK became a member they got lifted out of poverty. Everyone forgets that.
Get your deal with Trump and leave EU in peace! You'll get additives from imported US-food you never heard of or ate before but you don't have to abide to EU-laws or regulations and that seems to be the bottom line (see table at 1.33, no pun intended!) Stupid is what stupid does.
and on top of that, this time, the other EU members will think it is a perfectly reasonable position to take, the UK was just there for the goodies and never truly cared not desired the european political project. Should the Uk decide to reapply to the EU, its going to be the copenhaguen criteria or nothing else, an ofc after that it will all depend on the vote of all members.
Unfortunately we are not the same age as in the 70's .... The US will show in 2025 in what direction the World is moving when they implement the Oligarchy System backed up by law similar in Russia. They will try to "buy" all countries in the same way China is doing it until at the end only 3 Economic Blocks will survive... 2025 will be the most important year after WWII....
Worse. You can add at least Germany to the view France had. Germany and France were very tired of the British policy. Playing France and Germany against each other, as the UK have done for several hundred years on the continent, very skilled I must say. But that is over. It is said that when the little crisis at the Channel Islands was at its highest, BoJo called Merkel. She had her secretary to say that she would call back, but she never did. She knew what BoJo wanted and, not calling back, did send a message to London. If the story is true or not, I don't know, but it illustrates the German and French position very well. The UK is tamed for now. If the UK is going into the EU again, France, Germany, and many others wants guaranties the UK will be a team player, not a divider.
Thanks for misrepresenting what is actually happening in Norway through your obvious total dependence on UK news media for your information, Liz (and not actual Norwegian news). But remember anyway, in Norway when there is talk about "joining the EU" it is in comparison to our existing EEA status that we enjoy as an EFTA member. In other words, even if we decide by referendum to take that action (and no initiative to that effect has yet been suggested by any government party) we know that we have already fulfilled the Copenhagen Criteria and have also already adopted 90% of the Acquis Communautaire into domestic law. Even when the UK was a member it had achieved neither of these targets, and since leaving you have diverged hugely from both. Let's have a race, shall we?
Early good morning, dear fellow EUropean, do I smell a faint whiff of ueber-acidic sarcasm, resulting from a slowly emerging, irrepressible exhaustion caused by ever so irritating 'alternative facts' continuously being spread on this channel, a smell that unfortunately blends with the smell of my freshly brewed cuppa and scrambled eggs and toast?! 😎 Hope you enjoyed great days with your loved ones, best greetings 'oop north' from Bavaria 🇪🇺 (no snow, no rain, sunny and dry but CHILLY! Brrrrrrh. I hate winter.)
@@EllieD.Violet what's it to live about winter? Having a Xmas lunch outside in 22gr, not a lot of tourists. I like winter 😊. Seasons greeting to Germany Ellie.
@ab-ym3bf Ha! There's nothing to love about winter, except for going skiing in high altitudes and then returning to moderate temperatures when finished. We had a spell of 'Foehn' last week, resulting in mid tens C°, quite nice. For the time being, it's chilly. Greetings back, with a wee bit of weather related envy 😉.
We really need to get the Norway and Iceland in to the EU 🇪🇺 It just makes sense. When the Finland and Sweden joined the NATO the cooperation between Norway, Nordics and Baltic Sea nations went through the roof. Just imagine what we can do when everyone is on the same table in the EU. Can’t wait 🎉 Greetings from Finland.
Indeed, before the actual vote he explained how and why leaving would be a very bad idea even in broad alignment with Patrick Minford Maggie Thatchers chief economist when he said that leaving the EU would destroy industry and have severe effects on other industries.
@@EllieD.Violet Hi EllieD., Nice to hear from you. I did indeed move & hardly anything has gone to plan! However, I needed to get out of my comfort zone & work on something practical. Computer projects are all very well but not the kind of challenge that I needed to distract me from the harsh realities of Brexit. After the house purchase was completed my savings stretched to work on the roof - just before the terrible rain started fortunately. A new front door has been installed, the old back door has been refitted, the internal doors have been rehung & the old windows have new handles. The drains have been repaired & damp proofing will commence in January. New floors, kitchen & bathroom will have to wait. Saving mode commences in February. Meanwhile I have stocked up on items to make small repairs & new light fittings are ready to be fitted. My new neighbours have been very helpful & informative & so far the area has been very quiet. On Christmas Eve I returned to my previous address to visit with old neighbours & noticed that my old flat had already been occupied. That felt good because accommodation in the UK is at a premium now. Enough about me & my latest project. How goes it with you & yours? I hope that your National Health Service is coping well with the new & old viruses that seem to be proliferating in the UK. How goes it in your part of Europe?
@@garyb455 No, its lose lose, as the Brexit 'deal' is an almost No Deal and the post Brexit 'global' trade deals are all almost worthless showing our lack of economic leverage! While the EU is set to grow with Iceland, Norway and Moldova potentially joining and a new trade deal with most of S.America!! We lost, and the EU moved on. Its a total failure!
And the rest of the world is creating their own economic groups! Look to BRICS. Expanding. We look like a lost country. Small and insignificant. Mother in law is Farage supporter. Brexit not happening is everyone else’s fault! Even Johnson’s wife, Carrie! Personally, I blame the unicorns. They didn’t arrive when we were told they would!😂😂😂
@@easyfencing COPY PASTE: In representative electoral systems, gerrymandering (/ˈdʒɛrimændərɪŋ/ JERR-ee-man-dər-ing, originally /ˈɡɛrimændərɪŋ/ GHERR-ee-man-dər-ing)[1][2] is the political manipulation of electoral district boundaries to advantage a party, group, or socioeconomic class within the constituency. The manipulation may involve "cracking" (diluting the voting power of the opposing party's supporters across many districts) or "packing" (concentrating the opposing party's voting power in one district to reduce their voting power in other districts).[3] Gerrymandering can also be used to protect incumbents. Wayne Dawkins, a professor at Morgan State University, describes it as politicians picking their voters instead of voters picking their politicians.[4] Cheers.
Definition of British arrogance: Let's have another referendum, on rejoining the EU. You ignore the obvious fact that you won't be admitted. When you'll have come off the high horse, in maybe 40 years, give it a try.
The _Sun_ - as always - getting it wrong. There is _not_ going to be a "re-negotiation" of the TCA in 2025, nor in 2026. There is a _review_ taking place in 2026 (not 2025) and this is technical and procedural: "Should we meet on Tuesday instead of Monday?", "We don't need Fred to turn up every month", "Lets use Zoom instead of Skype" etc.etc.
Because they are all tories (the true meaning) together, farmers, land owners, tax avoiders in fact all greedy types stick together like sh*t to a blanket. Let the ordinary working class people eat grass. That's the way they think
If labor visited the heritage foundation in the US than there is no left and right or liberal in the UK. Only conservative, ultra conservative and ultra right.
It is always possible that the EU is falling apart. But it only has, when it did. I am just wondering how long that „union“ of yours - that apparently non-UK - is going to last. All democracies of the west are under great pressure for many reasons and years, one of the reasons is fascist parties like your Tories. We‘ll see what’s going to happen.
Ohhh, Mr Sabey should know that there are NO RE-NEGOTIATIONS on the EU side ! Maybe he doesn't understand the term " assessment " ?? And maybe he doesn't know that the UK is in no danger of losing her precious Brexit as she doesn't fulfill the Copenhagen criteria and it is up to the EU if the UK can join ot not ??
9:31 'remainers like Adam Posen' 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Mr Posen is a citizen of the USA, was born in Massachusetts, lives and works in the USA and has nothing to do with Brexit/little brexitannia except for assessing the economic and political situation. That much for your labelling him a 'remainer'. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Well prior to the referendum Posen said as a 'consultant' that there is no upside with brexit so in that sense he is a remainer, that's what he advocated.
@@andersriksson100No. An economist who's capable of making a 100% spot on assessment doesn't magically turn into a 'remainer' - he's still an economist who's capable of nailing a forecast. A 'remainer' is a voter who voted 'remain' in the 2016 referendum on EU membership. Doesn't apply to Mr. Posen. End of. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@andersriksson100 He's an American with zero relation to the UK, he gives a toss about little brexitannia, as do we 448m 🇪🇺. 'Heart'??? 🤦♀️🤣 All he's interested in is his job (in which he's bloody good) and his professional reputation. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@andersriksson100 The job of a consultant doesn't switch his nationality from US American to British and it didn't result in him having the right to vote in the 2016 referendum. Basic logic has it that the latter would have been a conditio sine qua non for labeling him a 'remainer'. Basic logic is not exactly your forte 🤦♀️. How many more times do you need explaining? If I hire you as a consultant for redecorating our living room this does neither grant you the right to in the final end actually pick our new furniture, nor does it make you a member of our family / household - it only makes you a consultant with the right to suggest. Was this example simple enough for you? Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Liz, for feck sake you are long enough commenting on this subject to realise that there is no way into the SM except joining the EU and that's not going to happen
If the people don't talk about it it will never happen but when they continue talking and believing it can happen... Keep talking and believe in rejoining....
@@klausschumacher7126 She will have kicked it half a century before little brexitannia MIGHT even meet the CC. And then little brexitannia will be vetoed, as long as little england is part of the UK. One 🇪🇺 lives and learns. Or do you really believe she will be alive in 50 years from now? Hint: she's not exactly a spring chicken. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Liz still resides in the 18th century. She knows she’s doomed, but still doesn’t discuss adopting the Euro or how long ‘applying’ - not ‘rejoining’ - will take.
@JohnnyinMN The € cannot be 'adopted' or 'decided to join' by the applicant. 1) not even all present EU members are permitted to join the eurozone, since they don't meet the requirements. Some have opt-outs which are no longer available for present or future applicants. The present eurozone members decide, nobody else. 2) 'join the €' as an applicant: not a choice, the € is *mandatory* under the Copenhagen Criteria, once a member meets requirements. Les rosbifs can rest assured that we EU27🇪🇺 are VERY cognizant of the fact that they'd try to weasel their way out of this commitment once they'd be granted membership again, e.g. by cooking their books, which is why they won't be granted membership until they meet the €/eurozone requirements on the very first day of their second membership. Since this is probably never going to happen 🤣 .... waste of time discussing it. Requirement #1: for 5 consecutive years, a debt to GDP ratio of no more than 60%. The UK had a ratio of 100% for more than half a decade, resulting in trillions of debts. Alone to rid themselves of those denbts they'd need to find the 'magic money tree' Treeza May loved to waffle about. With their trillions of 'old debts' and new ones increasing this sum any given day ..... nobody here 🇪🇺 merely considers having the back, since we 🇪🇺 have zero appetite for paying off their debts. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@Paul-eb4jp The economy is still the only argument that mercantile Britons understand. For as long as they do not understand what makes the EU tick, the solidarity between countries, the friendship between people and closer cooperation aspect, Britain will not be welcomed back. Only wanting to be back because the bottom line outside isn't doing so well, is just the same old problem. Nothing has changed in British basic outlook.
It is true that the EU is much more than economics; however let's not forget that economics is the fundamental key incentive to bring the nations of Europe together to halt the historic cycle of nations warring aginst its neighbours in Europe.
@@lloydbelle3406 Don't see it like that. Ease of trading is a means of getting to the other aims of closer union, friendship and doing things together. Ease of trading is not the end goal in itself. In order to get the big friendship group going (which included the ultimate forgiveness for WWII between Germany and France, later Germany and Poland) easy trade rather than all too easy war, was a good idea. Ultimately Churchill's United States of Europe idea, expressed in his Zurich speech after the war, is the guiding star. The solely economic community has long been surpassed by becoming such an ever closer union and friendship group. Only Britain doesn't appreciate that aspect of the EU.
@@MrsGardiner I can't disagree with what you are saying because it's ALL TRUE, including your final sentence. Neverthelless we shouldn't lose focus that it is the financial incentive of a combined single market that is the KEY incentive that creates the initial incentive that brings all nations together. Do consider the reverse: Let's say the single market created a drop in GDP (Brexit is the proof of that), do you think Europe would be incentivised to create and join the EU?
The Brexit campaign must not like looking back, when will they admit they gambled they were played by players that did not have UKs best interest as a motive.
Love your campaign Liz and hope you win through, but what can be done to persuade the many farmers who still vehemently defend brexit? There were some fierce verbal attacks on pro EU demonstrators the other week by protesting farmers, if the Johnson betrayal of farmers hasn't changed their minds what will?
Brexit has done exactly what it was supposed to. Only it was not at all what it was _promised_ to have done. Somewhere, in a luxury estate, disaster capitalists propose another toast to the stupidity of the average voter.
Brexit has done exactly what it was supposed to do. Only it was never what it was _promised_ to do. Somewhere, in a luxury estate, obscenely wealthy disaster capitalists propose yet another toast.
Sigh. Liz stated at the beginning of the video, “Allowing freedom of movement would get us back in the single-market.” Oh, which English media market told you that? Please expand your knowledge by reviewing news resources outside of your tiny island. Your joining the single-market is a fantasy. Just because you keep on insisting it will happen - the ‘real world’ says something completely different. Would you like my 15-year-old, American daughter explain the FACTS to you? She did her final high school paper in economics class on Brexit. Why are the English oblivious to reality? The ‘U.K.’ you know now will no longer exist in 30 years. Swallow your hubris and exceptionalism and report back to us when you reach that mental state called ‘reality.’ Example? You have never even discussed a real, written constitution and accepting the Euro. Liz, Britain is doomed. You have to come to terms with what will be needed for Britain to complete before even APPLYING.
_Allowing freedom of movement would get us back in the single-market_ Silly, isn't it? When the 4 freedoms are connected and only available for EU and EFTA members.
Liz. That man speaks more bolloxollogy. There Will ot be any renegotiation of the withdrawl agreement. There wii be a review of the withdrawl treaty. Huge difference. The European Court of Human rights is NOT related to the European Union. It was in existence long before the European Union.
Thatcher? Alienated her other EU 'colleagues' with her demands. May? Did the same. Truss? Oh wait, she barely was noticed by us 🇪🇺. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@DoggleBird 'monolithic Mega-State' We own residences in France, Germany, Italy and little brexitannia (standing empty for the time being) - I can tell you from own experiences, that those 3 countries are VERY different and nothing like 'monolithic'. I suggest you purchase yourself residences in a couple of countries and live in each of those on rotation to experience their variety. Of course this would profoundly shatter your little angerlander country pumpkin view of the world, so maybe it's a blessing you can't afford it in the first place. Greetings from the privileged upper class in civilization 🇪🇺 Edit typo
@EllieD.Violet I have lived in Sweden for many years and have family there - and assets and two pensions from Sweden. I have taught at several European universities. I have a decent understanding of Europe thanks - I don't need to own any more real estate for that purpose. I know enough about European history and the creation of empires to recognise the underlying purpose of the EU. Why can't you have the decency to respect our democratic decision and leave us alone? Is it because you see your own empire slowly crumbling?
Iceland and Montenegro will probably join the EU during the second half of the 2020s. Maybe 2027 and 2028. In the first half of the 2030s probably Albania and North Macedonia will join. For the rest i don't know, but Ukraine and Moldova will also be very welcome to join the EU during the 2030s. Those are some things that are more certain, cause i really don't know about Serbia and Bosnia and Hercegovina, Turkey, etc. Those places ain't doing ANYTHING that's required to actually join the EU. Montenegro just closed 3 new chapters with the EU, so 6 out of some 30 chapters are completely finished. And Montenegro could close up to 10 chapters per year.
No negotiation, the EU are happy with it and it takes two to renegotiate. It is a technical review on the functioning of that which has been negotiated, no overturning of negotiating decisions, unless both parties see the need. Why does Britain think they can turn up and renegotiate? With themselves?
Several industries have been impacted by Brexit, including: Automotive: The automotive industry has faced challenges such as: Supply issues Higher costs New tariffs on parts that don't meet rules of origin requirements Customs delays Increased administrative costs Clothing, retail, and food: These industries have faced: Bigger expenses Red tape at borders Transport, hospitality, and retail: These sectors have been particularly hard hit by a lack of workers. Financial services: This sector may have lost 7,000 jobs, according to a House of Commons report. Small exporters: Many small exporters have stopped exporting to the EU. Other impacts of Brexit include: Wales and Northern Ireland were the regions most affected by Brexit. Accommodation, construction, and wholesale trade were particularly impacted in terms of earnings and employment levels. By the end of 2022, total British goods exports had fallen by 6.4% and imports by 3.1%.
when most of the politicians did not want it, what do you expect, do not vote against what the establishment want or you will be punished, well it has come back and bit them on the arse, it looks like all over europe the people are saying no to the establishment with the rise of reform type parties
Look at the joy of the people when BJ talked about the Independence Day...😂 The BBC should invite all of them again and show their "happiness" again.... The Bloomberg guy said the truth but many will not believe it until they feel it personally....
But that’s exactly the problem, and it’s lingering. There might not be such an enthusiastic feeling of great things coming, but it would only be replaced with a sort of dejected acceptance, something like “OK, turns out that being in the damn EU is not so _bad_ after all”. But that’s a lousy reason to be in the EU-the idea is that you should *want* to belong somewhere like it, not just concede that not being there is “even worse”. How can the project succeed if the members consider it to be just the least bad of bad options?
It is not as if British voters wouldn't have a choice at general elections : (rightfully) disappointed Labour voters could vote at the next general election for Green Party candidates, moderate common sense Conservative voters could vote for the Liberal Democrats, teaching their respective traditional choices, Tories and Labour, a lesson.
10,133 students in higher education in the UK participated in the 2018 'call' (application period) for study placements abroad through the EU Erasmus+ scheme. A further 8,172 students participated through traineeships (work placements). data from 2018. So just a few strudents he says???????
The silence that arrives at 17:20 and ends 17:30 mins into the video, along with the accompanying image of a leading Brexit Shyster, says it all: You can almost hear the rustling of economic tumbleweed in the background. Expect decades of economic failure before any substantial move back to the EU will be considered, all attempts being stymied by "corporate" political parties and a right-wing media. If you're over 60 years of age forget the EU completely; progression back to the EU will be highly unlikely to occur in your lifetime.
Moist of the working class families are lucky if they can save all year round and they can go somewhere cheaper like Portugal, with the inflation cost of living going up they may need to put it on a credit card. The middle families go outside of Europe.
Marks and Spencer have 16 outlets in the Republic of Ireland several of these share the forecourt of petrol stations with other retailers . Why is that ???
I used to follow you on you twitter before I left Liz but so glad I don’t now. Not after I heard that ridiculous diatribe I heard you rant about Labour and Farmers. They should have been arrested for distrusting traffic in London. Along side the kids tractors at £200 a pop.
You had avreferendum to be part of Europe too, then you had reversed it with another referendum in 2016. So I cannot see why you call democracy not to reverse a referendum , but the other was ok to be reversed
Why is Amazon UK saying they cannot ship to my EU location? We may not be able to ship certain items to your location due to various restrictions. These can include size limits, hazardous materials, local laws, or seller policies..... BREXIT GREAT FOR SMALL BUSINESS
I'm sick of hearing from the British media about Brexit betrayal, BS I'm sick of being poor again, I'm fed up with restricted travel, to hell with Brexit it was and will always be a disaster. As for currency I haven't used it in years, I use cards or digital cash so get over it.
Correct, seeing her in parliament would be a hoot and a half. Knowing that as a rosbif she will never make it into the EP 😎. Thanks, dear EU forefathers, for our veto rights. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@punditgi 'trolling' as in telling you facts, then. Fact #1 is that little brexitannia as of date fails to meet 50% of our 🇪🇺 accession criteria. Fact #2 is that *we* decide, not some random applicant. And appetite for having les rosbifs back is zero, even if they met the CC. Fact #3: those of us that profit from Brexit will veto them anyway, because they have nothing left of any interest for us 🇪🇺. Hence our gains are our main interest. Fact #4: explained to you some weeks ago, little brexitannia having blackmailed the other members about vetoing reunited Germany's re-admission unless the eastern expansion was done as they wanted. I suggest you re-read my explanation, I certainly won't retype it just because of your poor memory or lack of brains in the first place. But I strongly suspect you'll come up with your standard rubbish again - you're just not bright enough for facts and basic logic. No surprise the 🍊 abomination was re-elected, given the sub-standard 'Murrican education system as displayed by the likes of you any given day, in any given comment. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺 Edit typo
The British Leave faction : 2004. The EU will fall apart next year. 2005. The EU will fall apart next year. 2006. The EU will definitely fall apart next year. 2007. The EU will DEFINITELY fall apart next year. 2008. Etc etc etc...... until Brexit proper and its consequences. Still, the main thing for HMG is to keep appeasing the proprietors of the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph etc
Isn’t it time Starmer tried to appeal to Labour voters? How about respecting everyone who wants EU, at least as much as those Brexiters who trusted in lies so they could be anti immigration?
Money that the UK does not have, youth that are no use to anybody, industry that cannot compete with other countries. People should have used their heads and realized that they were selling their future down line. They still listen to the con men, Farage and Johnson.
Yes, you've recognized that. What you didn't realize is what it costs and the UK has saved in the last 20 years thanks to their governments especially Tory, 900 billion!!!! To get to an extremely high education level of BRD, Sweden and Co with 3.5% of GDP, GB is with 1.7% on EU far last place by far! Germany has spent 1100 billion more in the same period than the UK in 20 years on its education system! So the UK must easily invest an additional 150 billion over 6 years and specialists must be available to set up the training systems! The interesting thing about the UK is that they don't have either! The EU has been complaining about this since the 90s without success. You get what you choose, in this case the worst education system of all EU countries!
@@w47w this is the problem with a lot of people in the UK, they want everything one way, or they will beat down ideas and pull out excuses. What we need to realise is yes we are in a binde but we need to buckle down and get on with it. I don't mind paying higher taxes just as long as everyone else pays in as well. We need radical changes, some vision and a bit hard work or the rest of the world are going to leave us behind.
I hope Starmer has the willpower and stamina to overcome the rage in the right. We need to be much, much closer to Europe or we will have years of stagflation.
the Brexitdream may be over, the Brexitnightmare just begun. I think you are facing the dilemma of an "eternal" Brexit with all the consequences and the Rejoin-shock. With no more privileges, like other memberstates. Being a normal member will surely hurt the selfesteem of many people.
There is no 'rejoin shock' - because at barely meeting 50% of our 🇪🇺 accession criteria, we 🇪🇺 don't even waste a single thought on their application. We 🇪🇺 have a waste paper basket. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@prohtmeyhet5600 Yes, the moment when they 🇬🇧 realize it's for at least half a century, if not longer at least for England. Actions have consequences. Grin.
Yeah, I’m afraid Trump has shown us times enough that any accord or treaty the US sign is just very temporary. You might almost say not worth the trouble-the negotiations take longer than the treaty might be in effect.
The random applicant little brexitannia doesn't decide - we EU27 🇪🇺 do. Our response: try nicely again from 2070 onwards. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
i think britain leaving the eu, changed the eu, cameron tried ti close the borders but the eu said no , since btrtain left we have had countries now closing their borders, l think the eu realised they screwed up by not allowing britain to control its borders. but it also shows if britain had the balls it could have stayed in the eu and closed its borders. even out of the eu it has not got the balls to close its borders and send back to europe those who cross illegally
What are you even talking about! Nobody in EU closed their borders, there are more checks if necessary, this was always possible if the need arises and a case is made for it. What you seem to assert is that the EU is doing away with freedom of movement and they are definitively n o t doing anything like that. You got yourself royally confused here.
In 2015, polling showed that the people would vote to remain in the EU. When we had a referendum in 2016, the majority voted to leave. Those same polls predicted Hillary Clinton would be the president that same year. The reality is polls can not be trusted for several reasons including that they take no account of the effect of campaigns which precede referendums. Starmer talks about a "reset", but he will be treated with the same disdain and abuse that Cameron experienced when he tried to get concessions and that May experienced in 2017 when she was frozen out. The Eurocrats will see Starmer as weak and desperate and willing to concede whatever is demanded while gaining precious little in return. Fortunately, Starmer can't rejoin the EU and he knows it, and whatever concessions he does make can be overturned when the next government comes to power, but he could do even more damage to the economy, and relations with potential trading partners, until he is finally removed. You picking a Bloomberg stooge to back up your anti-Brexit diatribe proves nothing. Bloomberg is corporatist and globalist and WEF to its very core.
@DoggleBird Clinton won the popular vote by over 1 millon votes I believe so; the opinion polls were correct as executed. There's always the complication of extrapolating the electoral college tally from the popular vote. Pundits, rather than statisticians I suspect, just jump to conclusions rather than spending the money to achieve a more precise result. The referendum result in 2016 was within the margin of error (52/48). Cameron, far from being treated with 'disdain' and 'abuse' did come away with important concessions, I remember Juncker announcing that the UK need take no further part in 'ever closer union'. Since this was a principle mentioned even in the original treaty on the functioning of the EEC, the Treaty of Rome 1958; such was a very important concession. The media and the Leave campaign of course, rubbished his efforts and blinded people with propaganda. The concessionary agreement was important enough that Jean-Claude Juncker declared it null and void the first time that he responded publicly to the referendum result.
@@desmondroberts6034 The prediction by the polls was that Clinton would win the presidency. They were wrong. She didn't. Polls are often wrong. Many of the polls in 2015 were outside the margin of error - and polls can change rapidly. They are of little use. Cameron didn't come away with anything much - he just needed to pretend that he had. The "ever closer union" thing was in relation to what was said in 1957, namely: "...to lay the foundations of an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe". That was always vague nonsense and they weren't conceding anything important.
You are perfectly right ! Brexit was a brilliant decision.....for the European Union ! It got rid of a parasite that reserved itself unfair privileges by the way of blackmail (remember Margaret Thatcher: "I want my money back"), and of a saboteur of all efforts to develop the EU towards a (con)federal Europe. Thanks to Brexit, the EU is now united like it wasn't for a long time.
No. Because by then little brexitannia even will less meet the Copenhagen Criteria than it does as of date (December 2024, 50%). Ever tried to read those accession criteria? Might spare you displaying your embarrassing ignorance. And, NO, because we 🇪🇺 are not willing to bail out and pay for the self-inflicted stupidity of 65m eejits and their delusions of grandeur for a *second* time, 65m desperate for membership just to recover their ruined economy and then buggering off once they are rolling in the dough again. Brexit 2.0 = rinse and repeat. The EU is a political and economic union, not some charity for a bunch of yesteryearish gullible, inept supremacists. Vetoes will be issued by the dozen. But if you personally feel that generous and sympathetic, just donate all of your belongings to some struggling rosbif: your money, your real estate, your savings, your inherited assets, your monthly salary, your pension. Whatever. Nobody stops you doing so. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺 PS Starmer can make efforts all he likes - won't change the facts listed above.
Have you ever considered reading the acquis communautaire and other EU rulebooks? Non? Try it - saves you the embarrassment of looking like an utter fool. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
We are going back to the 70's because of the current labour government.Listening to this deranged gaslighting rejoiner is like listening to a stuck record
I don't think the UK is trying to get a trade deal with the USA. Obviously there will be discussion, but already 22% of the UK's exports go to the USA, and there is plenty of potential to increase that without a trade deal, which is why the UK has already signed 8 trade collaboration agreements with various USA states, i.e. Business development arrangements usung existing trade rules, which are based on WTO rules. Trade deals can take up to 20 years to negotiate, e.g. EU/Mercosur or even 10+ years. But Trump is only there for 4 years.
ONLY the USA ways and means committee can sign off on trade deals. MOU’s between a US state and a foreign country carry zero weight. You can sign a MOU with your building janitor
@dantownsend4246 I guess you have never been in the position of exporting goods or services to another country, because you certainly don't seem to understand trade. For a start the USA is the UK's largest export target country. The UK already exports 22% of it's total exports to the USA. That one country takes half the Exports that the whole of the EU, 27 countries takes at the moment. (41%) And guess what the Ways and Means Committee hasn't signed any of that off. You see what typically happens is a business in one country sells to a business in another country. I managed a branch of a USA software sales company covering the Middle East and therefore my branch marketed and sold software to companies in various Middle East countries. Part of that process amongst other things was attending trade fairs which were put on by government bodies and these provided an opportunity for businesses to propose opportunities to other businesses in other countries to trade. It's loosely called business development. My eldest daughter was the NZ female lead of a delegation arranged between the New Zealand trade competency and the Australian trade competency where they created a forum for businesses from both countries to meet and discuss trade opportunities. The PMs and several ministers of both countries attended. She secured two contracts from that trip which were exports of a service from NZ to Aus. The Governor of New Jersey came to London recently with a team of his trade people to discuss trade opportunities with equivalents in the UK. Unfortunately that coincided with the Presidential election results and so the meetings were persponed. So these MOUs are business development arrangements, they allow the USA state trade competencies, and USA state businesses to work with the UK trade competency and UK businesses to discover trade opportunities, and then help those trade opportunities move forward into exports/imports. In this way that 22% of UK exports to the USA can grow without any Ways and Means Committee approval. That would be another level of trade development, but there is potential to work within the existing agreement. Which is of course under standard WTO rules. Now this is an important brexit benefit as the UK didn't have a fully staffed trade competency until after the transition, just 4 years ago. They used to send Prince Andrew as a trade Envoy! Now they have a department of some 6,000 staff, more or less. So now the UK government can move forward business development programmes across all its target trade countries including those in the EU. The UK has historically, (over the last 40 years) been bad at this. Time to do better and after brexit there is an increased urgency to do better.
@@peterclareburt4594 Wishful thinking is not going to get anything done. The US is not interested in helping the UK, they have only their own interests in mind. When will the brexiters realize that they have destroyed the UK economy and are making it into a 3rd world country.
We have taken back control of our laws, our borders and our country! It has been expensive, and we have lost certain rights, such as to live and work in Europe, but no one promised it would be easy. So far I think we can say it has been a qualified success, and Starmer can built on this. We can now trade all around the world without worrying about the EU!
@@michaelmayo3127 Democracy, which you should try if you want to overturn the historic referendum of 2016! It was just one more step, like the Reformation and the Industrial Revolution leading to England's greatness!
The UK as a nation could be the poster-boy for the expression: "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
Exeptionalism indeed! Look at the table at 1.33, you will accept free movement for access to the single market but you won't accept the EU-rules or courts of that same market?? Grow up, you are a rather tiny country in decline not an empire!
Brexit sounds more and more like "Free beer tomorrow". We are still waiting for brexitiers to list the advantages we have seen since 2016 whereas the disadvantages are clear and obvious every day.
Brexit benefits have virtually become 'Surplus to Requirements'. I bet Farage can't believe his luck that his 20 years mission of failure, has been deliberately overlooked, or avoided, by the public.
Totally agree, you can't leave the largest single market in the world without consequences.
hahahaha, closer to the Eu would jeopardise these wonderful trade deals the Uk has now because of leaving. You mean the ones with Australia and New Zealand that's screwing British farmers? That would indeed be such a shame. These people are mad.
The same Europe that deals with Argentina ect that European farmers are up in arms about 😂😂😂😂
Melon
@@camo68 The EU/Merconsur agreement will slash tariffs of between 10%-35% on EU cheese and other dairy products, wine, spirits and chocolate; Mercosur countries will also remove duties from more than 90% of EU imports, including the 35% duty on cars as well as tariffs on parts, machinery, chemicals and pharmaceuticals, A MARKET OF 700 MILLION. NOT JUST ABOUT FARMERS.
@@camo68 1)If the EU did what UK tories have done to UK farmers, there ould be even more protest from EU farmers. 2)it has been heard before (but not abaout tories) that governments do one thing right, and others less right. Uniting against Trump etc would be right.
This labour government are screwing our farmers all on their own
Well MZ had been Shipping sheep meat to the UK since 1892. And in the last decade never got within 75% of their quota. That trade deal will make little difference to the UK farmers.
Britain: the new backwater of Europe.
Britain isn't in Europe
@@camo68 Oh, no... has it floated off down to Africa... AGAIN?!
They must really buy a new anchor. Perhaps it's on their New Year 'To Do' list?
@@camo68 Check a map you appear lost
Truly world beating educational system you’ve got.
@@Kurwajegomac The odd one or two slip through the net.
And no, the EU does not want to punish the UK for leaving but forget about special privileges ( no having cake and eat it).
For the UK not having privileges is punishment.
@@marinusvos Brexiteers would indeed see being treated just like the other guy as “a disgrace” (as Truss once put it). They except to be welcomed on red carpet, they still dream of the realm over which the sun doesn’t set… I’m afraid the CPTPP will be a bit of a disappointment in that, though. :-/
@@marinusvos No, it isn't. British people might think it is but they have already given up their privileges in exchange for "taking control back". Even if rejoin will happen, I'm quite sure that they must introduce EUR instead of GDP.
@@LaNfinity Read what I said. I'm NOT saying the UK is being punished.
@@LaNfinity What @marinusvos is saying is that good old adage of "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" - Of course they're not being punished, they only see it that way because they're losing the privileges of the (EU) club members, and in their infinite privileged imperialistic cognitive dissonance they don't understand why...
Posen is a class commentator and always very prescient on economic matters
Finally i get validation from what i said from the beginning and people were scolding je for it.
The UK goes back to the very painful seventies. It is rather sad to see i was right from the beginning.
When the UK became a member they got lifted out of poverty. Everyone forgets that.
What do people not get about "America First" ?
America First...the rest out?
Brexit or no brexit. It would be nice to have a government that is sensible and truthful. Instead of puppets run by oligarchs.
I do agree with you there . There is so much that could be done to make it better.
Only one fix needed. Copy the voting system from Finland. 👍
@Ian-be2nw Brexit was a scam more or less but who are the puppets in this government? And the oligarchs?
If we had a government that was sensible and truthful, Brexit couldn't happen...
Get your deal with Trump and leave EU in peace! You'll get additives from imported US-food you never heard of or ate before but you don't have to abide to EU-laws or regulations and that seems to be the bottom line (see table at 1.33, no pun intended!) Stupid is what stupid does.
Trump is certainly helping to foster a sense of unity in the EU but not as much as your brexit has, quite frankly.
Trump and Johnson, two crooks.
It has taken us back to the 60’s , with no chance of France saying yes by the end of the decade, as they did in 1970..
and on top of that, this time, the other EU members will think it is a perfectly reasonable position to take, the UK was just there for the goodies and never truly cared not desired the european political project.
Should the Uk decide to reapply to the EU, its going to be the copenhaguen criteria or nothing else, an ofc after that it will all depend on the vote of all members.
Unfortunately we are not the same age as in the 70's .... The US will show in 2025 in what direction the World is moving when they implement the Oligarchy System backed up by law similar in Russia. They will try to "buy" all countries in the same way China is doing it until at the end only 3 Economic Blocks will survive... 2025 will be the most important year after WWII....
Decade? Not even by the end of this century. 😋
Greetings from civilization 🇨🇵🇪🇺
@@SeArCh4DrEaMz.... and all those of us 27 that profit from Brexit will veto.
Guess the key term 😊.
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Worse.
You can add at least Germany to the view France had. Germany and France were very tired of the British policy. Playing France and Germany against each other, as the UK have done for several hundred years on the continent, very skilled I must say. But that is over.
It is said that when the little crisis at the Channel Islands was at its highest, BoJo called Merkel. She had her secretary to say that she would call back, but she never did. She knew what BoJo wanted and, not calling back, did send a message to London.
If the story is true or not, I don't know, but it illustrates the German and French position very well.
The UK is tamed for now. If the UK is going into the EU again, France, Germany, and many others wants guaranties the UK will be a team player, not a divider.
Thanks for misrepresenting what is actually happening in Norway through your obvious total dependence on UK news media for your information, Liz (and not actual Norwegian news).
But remember anyway, in Norway when there is talk about "joining the EU" it is in comparison to our existing EEA status that we enjoy as an EFTA member. In other words, even if we decide by referendum to take that action (and no initiative to that effect has yet been suggested by any government party) we know that we have already fulfilled the Copenhagen Criteria and have also already adopted 90% of the Acquis Communautaire into domestic law.
Even when the UK was a member it had achieved neither of these targets, and since leaving you have diverged hugely from both.
Let's have a race, shall we?
Early good morning, dear fellow EUropean,
do I smell a faint whiff of ueber-acidic sarcasm, resulting from a slowly emerging, irrepressible exhaustion caused by ever so irritating 'alternative facts' continuously being spread on this channel, a smell that unfortunately blends with the smell of my freshly brewed cuppa and scrambled eggs and toast?! 😎
Hope you enjoyed great days with your loved ones, best greetings 'oop north' from Bavaria 🇪🇺 (no snow, no rain, sunny and dry but CHILLY! Brrrrrrh. I hate winter.)
@@EllieD.Violet what's it to live about winter? Having a Xmas lunch outside in 22gr, not a lot of tourists.
I like winter 😊. Seasons greeting to Germany Ellie.
@ab-ym3bf Ha! There's nothing to love about winter, except for going skiing in high altitudes and then returning to moderate temperatures when finished.
We had a spell of 'Foehn' last week, resulting in mid tens C°, quite nice. For the time being, it's chilly.
Greetings back, with a wee bit of weather related envy 😉.
@@EllieD.Violet I cannot report on the temperature here in Norway yet - I'm waiting for Liz Webster's report on what the UK newspapers tell us it is.
We really need to get the Norway and Iceland in to the EU 🇪🇺 It just makes sense. When the Finland and Sweden joined the NATO the cooperation between Norway, Nordics and Baltic Sea nations went through the roof. Just imagine what we can do when everyone is on the same table in the EU. Can’t wait 🎉 Greetings from Finland.
Posen has been right before, during & since the advisory referendum for Brexit. Seasons greetings to all.
Indeed, before the actual vote he explained how and why leaving would be a very bad idea even in broad alignment with Patrick Minford Maggie Thatchers chief economist when he said that leaving the EU would destroy industry and have severe effects on other industries.
Back to you - did you move already and did everything go to plan? Yiu mentioned some time ago a move was scheduled.
Best greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺
@@EllieD.Violet Hi EllieD., Nice to hear from you. I did indeed move & hardly anything has gone to plan! However, I needed to get out of my comfort zone & work on something practical. Computer projects are all very well but not the kind of challenge that I needed to distract me from the harsh realities of Brexit.
After the house purchase was completed my savings stretched to work on the roof - just before the terrible rain started fortunately. A new front door has been installed, the old back door has been refitted, the internal doors have been rehung & the old windows have new handles. The drains have been repaired & damp proofing will commence in January. New floors, kitchen & bathroom will have to wait. Saving mode commences in February. Meanwhile I have stocked up on items to make small repairs & new light fittings are ready to be fitted.
My new neighbours have been very helpful & informative & so far the area has been very quiet. On Christmas Eve I returned to my previous address to visit with old neighbours & noticed that my old flat had already been occupied. That felt good because accommodation in the UK is at a premium now.
Enough about me & my latest project. How goes it with you & yours? I hope that your National Health Service is coping well with the new & old viruses that seem to be proliferating in the UK. How goes it in your part of Europe?
The British people are sick of hearing from Brexit clowns about their joke “trade deals”!
No, they are not. They are hooked on it.
But we have a trade deal with the EU and now with many others, thats a win win win
@@garyb455 Many others? Do you mean the cut and paste deals we had when in the EU? The Australian deal which is of no use whatsoever?
@@garyb455 No, its lose lose, as the Brexit 'deal' is an almost No Deal and the post Brexit 'global' trade deals are all almost worthless showing our lack of economic leverage! While the EU is set to grow with Iceland, Norway and Moldova potentially joining and a new trade deal with most of S.America!! We lost, and the EU moved on. Its a total failure!
And the rest of the world is creating their own economic groups! Look to BRICS. Expanding. We look like a lost country. Small and insignificant.
Mother in law is Farage supporter. Brexit not happening is everyone else’s fault! Even Johnson’s wife, Carrie! Personally, I blame the unicorns. They didn’t arrive when we were told they would!😂😂😂
The Referendum was the least democratic event in UK voting history: lies, gerrymandering, and Putin interference.
& only advisory.
gerrymandering????
@@easyfencing COPY PASTE: In representative electoral systems, gerrymandering (/ˈdʒɛrimændərɪŋ/ JERR-ee-man-dər-ing, originally /ˈɡɛrimændərɪŋ/ GHERR-ee-man-dər-ing)[1][2] is the political manipulation of electoral district boundaries to advantage a party, group, or socioeconomic class within the constituency. The manipulation may involve "cracking" (diluting the voting power of the opposing party's supporters across many districts) or "packing" (concentrating the opposing party's voting power in one district to reduce their voting power in other districts).[3] Gerrymandering can also be used to protect incumbents. Wayne Dawkins, a professor at Morgan State University, describes it as politicians picking their voters instead of voters picking their politicians.[4]
Cheers.
@@easyfencing
Cipolla is right.
😂😂😂😂😂you fraggle
Definition of British arrogance: Let's have another referendum, on rejoining the EU.
You ignore the obvious fact that you won't be admitted.
When you'll have come off the high horse, in maybe 40 years, give it a try.
Not straight away for sure. Britain would have to go trough the same admission procedure as Bulgaria or Romania - for the very same reasons...
The _Sun_ - as always - getting it wrong. There is _not_ going to be a "re-negotiation" of the TCA in 2025, nor in 2026. There is a _review_ taking place in 2026 (not 2025) and this is technical and procedural: "Should we meet on Tuesday instead of Monday?", "We don't need Fred to turn up every month", "Lets use Zoom instead of Skype" etc.etc.
Why was farage welcomed at the tax avoidance parade by farmers.
Because they are all tories (the true meaning) together, farmers, land owners, tax avoiders in fact all greedy types stick together like sh*t to a blanket. Let the ordinary working class people eat grass. That's the way they think
This topic has quietly been forgotten...
@@flickthenick oh hasn't it just?
The architect of their downfall,welcomed like a returning champion.
Wonder why?
@Captain-l-12p maybe down to the 1% who like the fact that the other 99% pay all the taxes?
@@flickthenick yep.the people on PAYE have been covering them for years.
If labor visited the heritage foundation in the US than there is no left and right or liberal in the UK. Only conservative, ultra conservative and ultra right.
Let's make Brexit work for us in the EU, and keep the UK out of OUR Union (EU) permanently, a.k.a. until the end of time.
This Sun editor is a pratt
Arthritis?
Alzheimer's, more like.
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Nailed it
It is always possible that the EU is falling apart. But it only has, when it did.
I am just wondering how long that „union“ of yours - that apparently non-UK - is going to last.
All democracies of the west are under great pressure for many reasons and years, one of the reasons is fascist parties like your Tories.
We‘ll see what’s going to happen.
Ohhh, Mr Sabey should know that there are NO RE-NEGOTIATIONS on the EU side !
Maybe he doesn't understand the term " assessment " ??
And maybe he doesn't know that the UK is in no danger of losing her precious Brexit as she doesn't fulfill the Copenhagen criteria and it is up to the EU if the UK can join ot not ??
He's a rosbif - they all lack even a quarter brain.😊
Hoffe Du hattest schoene Feiertage, liebe Irmin!
UK can’t join the Single Market because it is being kicked out from the Single Market. 1.7.2025 UK is fully out.
9:31 'remainers like Adam Posen'
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Mr Posen is a citizen of the USA, was born in Massachusetts, lives and works in the USA and has nothing to do with Brexit/little brexitannia except for assessing the economic and political situation.
That much for your labelling him a 'remainer'.
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Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Well prior to the referendum Posen said as a 'consultant' that there is no upside with brexit so in that sense he is a remainer, that's what he advocated.
@@andersriksson100No.
An economist who's capable of making a 100% spot on assessment doesn't magically turn into a 'remainer' - he's still an economist who's capable of nailing a forecast.
A 'remainer' is a voter who voted 'remain' in the 2016 referendum on EU membership. Doesn't apply to Mr. Posen.
End of.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@EllieD.Violet Nitpickicking. He is both at heart as far as I'm concerned.
@andersriksson100 He's an American with zero relation to the UK, he gives a toss about little brexitannia, as do we 448m 🇪🇺.
'Heart'??? 🤦♀️🤣
All he's interested in is his job (in which he's bloody good) and his professional reputation.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@andersriksson100 The job of a consultant doesn't switch his nationality from US American to British and it didn't result in him having the right to vote in the 2016 referendum.
Basic logic has it that the latter would have been a conditio sine qua non for labeling him a 'remainer'. Basic logic is not exactly your forte 🤦♀️. How many more times do you need explaining?
If I hire you as a consultant for redecorating our living room this does neither grant you the right to in the final end actually pick our new furniture, nor does it make you a member of our family / household - it only makes you a consultant with the right to suggest.
Was this example simple enough for you?
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Liz, for feck sake you are long enough commenting on this subject to realise that there is no way into the SM except joining the EU and that's not going to happen
If the people don't talk about it it will never happen but when they continue talking and believing it can happen... Keep talking and believe in rejoining....
@@klausschumacher7126
She will have kicked it half a century before little brexitannia MIGHT even meet the CC. And then little brexitannia will be vetoed, as long as little england is part of the UK. One 🇪🇺 lives and learns.
Or do you really believe she will be alive in 50 years from now?
Hint: she's not exactly a spring chicken.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Liz still resides in the 18th century. She knows she’s doomed, but still doesn’t discuss adopting the Euro or how long ‘applying’ - not ‘rejoining’ - will take.
@JohnnyinMN The € cannot be 'adopted' or 'decided to join' by the applicant.
1) not even all present EU members are permitted to join the eurozone, since they don't meet the requirements. Some have opt-outs which are no longer available for present or future applicants.
The present eurozone members decide, nobody else.
2) 'join the €' as an applicant: not a choice, the € is *mandatory* under the Copenhagen Criteria, once a member meets requirements.
Les rosbifs can rest assured that we EU27🇪🇺 are VERY cognizant of the fact that they'd try to weasel their way out of this commitment once they'd be granted membership again, e.g. by cooking their books, which is why they won't be granted membership until they meet the €/eurozone requirements on the very first day of their second membership.
Since this is probably never going to happen 🤣 .... waste of time discussing it. Requirement #1: for 5 consecutive years, a debt to GDP ratio of no more than 60%. The UK had a ratio of 100% for more than half a decade, resulting in trillions of debts. Alone to rid themselves of those denbts they'd need to find the 'magic money tree' Treeza May loved to waffle about. With their trillions of 'old debts' and new ones increasing this sum any given day ..... nobody here 🇪🇺 merely considers having the back, since we 🇪🇺 have zero appetite for paying off their debts.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
That Brexiter from the Sun's office looks like a 70s news room drama set.
Only talk about economics. UK still don’t understand the importance of the EU.
Of course we do but she's discussing the economic aspect here.
@@Paul-eb4jp The economy is still the only argument that mercantile Britons understand. For as long as they do not understand what makes the EU tick, the solidarity between countries, the friendship between people and closer cooperation aspect, Britain will not be welcomed back. Only wanting to be back because the bottom line outside isn't doing so well, is just the same old problem. Nothing has changed in British basic outlook.
It is true that the EU is much more than economics; however let's not forget that economics is the fundamental key incentive to bring the nations of Europe together to halt the historic cycle of nations warring aginst its neighbours in Europe.
@@lloydbelle3406 Don't see it like that. Ease of trading is a means of getting to the other aims of closer union, friendship and doing things together. Ease of trading is not the end goal in itself. In order to get the big friendship group going (which included the ultimate forgiveness for WWII between Germany and France, later Germany and Poland) easy trade rather than all too easy war, was a good idea. Ultimately Churchill's United States of Europe idea, expressed in his Zurich speech after the war, is the guiding star. The solely economic community has long been surpassed by becoming such an ever closer union and friendship group. Only Britain doesn't appreciate that aspect of the EU.
@@MrsGardiner I can't disagree with what you are saying because it's ALL TRUE, including your final sentence. Neverthelless we shouldn't lose focus that it is the financial incentive of a combined single market that is the KEY incentive that creates the initial incentive that brings all nations together.
Do consider the reverse: Let's say the single market created a drop in GDP (Brexit is the proof of that), do you think Europe would be incentivised to create and join the EU?
The Brexit campaign must not like looking back, when will they admit they gambled they were played by players that did not have UKs best interest as a motive.
08:05
What "freedoms and opportunities" of leaving are there?
One will do.
I'll wait.
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The freedom to deliver by far the best show abroad after Monty Python! Rock Horror BREXIT DESASTER Show it is already called!
@@w47w
LOL! The Rocky Horror Brexit Disaster?
Oh, I do hope that's true!
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Love your campaign Liz and hope you win through, but what can be done to persuade the many farmers who still vehemently defend brexit? There were some fierce verbal attacks on pro EU demonstrators the other week by protesting farmers, if the Johnson betrayal of farmers hasn't changed their minds what will?
brexit has failed
It was always the direction of travel.
Brexit has done exactly what it was supposed to. Only it was not at all what it was _promised_ to have done. Somewhere, in a luxury estate, disaster capitalists propose another toast to the stupidity of the average voter.
Brexit has done exactly what it was supposed to do. Only it was never what it was _promised_ to do. Somewhere, in a luxury estate, obscenely wealthy disaster capitalists propose yet another toast.
It was not designed to succeed, only to con the gullible fools in the UK into letting
corrupt politicians have complete control over them.
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Sigh. Liz stated at the beginning of the video, “Allowing freedom of movement would get us back in the single-market.” Oh, which English media market told you that? Please expand your knowledge by reviewing news resources outside of your tiny island.
Your joining the single-market is a fantasy. Just because you keep on insisting it will happen - the ‘real world’ says something completely different. Would you like my 15-year-old, American daughter explain the FACTS to you? She did her final high school paper in economics class on Brexit.
Why are the English oblivious to reality? The ‘U.K.’ you know now will no longer exist in 30 years. Swallow your hubris and exceptionalism and report back to us when you reach that mental state called ‘reality.’ Example? You have never even discussed a real, written constitution and accepting the Euro. Liz, Britain is doomed. You have to come to terms with what will be needed for Britain to complete before even APPLYING.
_Allowing freedom of movement would get us back in the single-market_ Silly, isn't it? When the 4 freedoms are connected and only available for EU and EFTA members.
Liz. That man speaks more bolloxollogy.
There Will ot be any renegotiation of the withdrawl agreement.
There wii be a review of the withdrawl treaty.
Huge difference.
The European Court of Human rights is NOT related to the European Union. It was in existence long before the European Union.
Keep groundhogging, as annoying as it is!
Wishing you a great last 2024 weekend, dear fellow EUropean.
Greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺
Being part of the EU I don't feel any pain ,nor do i expect 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I hope no one is an employee of the lady who speaks at 17 mins 45 seconds. Imagine knowing your boss is that clueless?
Imagine being an employee of the lady who speaks as 17m 45s. Knowing your boss was that uninformed.
Merry Christmas Liz.
Iceland is governed by women😊
@michaelmayo3127
Iceland has become a nasty, Orwellian state with zero respect for free speech. They have gone the way of New Zealand under Jacinda.
Thatcher? Alienated her other EU 'colleagues' with her demands.
May? Did the same.
Truss? Oh wait, she barely was noticed by us 🇪🇺.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@EllieD.Violet You clearly like your monolithic European mega-state. I like living in a sovereign United Kingdom. So we're both happy, right?
@DoggleBird 'monolithic Mega-State'
We own residences in France, Germany, Italy and little brexitannia (standing empty for the time being) - I can tell you from own experiences, that those 3 countries are VERY different and nothing like 'monolithic'.
I suggest you purchase yourself residences in a couple of countries and live in each of those on rotation to experience their variety. Of course this would profoundly shatter your little angerlander country pumpkin view of the world, so maybe it's a blessing you can't afford it in the first place.
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@EllieD.Violet I have lived in Sweden for many years and have family there - and assets and two pensions from Sweden. I have taught at several European universities. I have a decent understanding of Europe thanks - I don't need to own any more real estate for that purpose. I know enough about European history and the creation of empires to recognise the underlying purpose of the EU. Why can't you have the decency to respect our democratic decision and leave us alone? Is it because you see your own empire slowly crumbling?
Out means out
The UK is in another tradeblock.
Goodluck.
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a piece of plywood.
Iceland and Montenegro will probably join the EU during the second half of the 2020s. Maybe 2027 and 2028. In the first half of the 2030s probably Albania and North Macedonia will join. For the rest i don't know, but Ukraine and Moldova will also be very welcome to join the EU during the 2030s. Those are some things that are more certain, cause i really don't know about Serbia and Bosnia and Hercegovina, Turkey, etc. Those places ain't doing ANYTHING that's required to actually join the EU. Montenegro just closed 3 new chapters with the EU, so 6 out of some 30 chapters are completely finished. And Montenegro could close up to 10 chapters per year.
We ♥ you Daisy!
There is no negotiation 😂 is a review of wht can be improved . Lstupid jornalists
Improved? Is a review of the implementation.
No negotiation, the EU are happy with it and it takes two to renegotiate. It is a technical review on the functioning of that which has been negotiated, no overturning of negotiating decisions, unless both parties see the need. Why does Britain think they can turn up and renegotiate? With themselves?
I like Ruth Davidson. She's properly honest and honourable. Even if she is a Tory. But she's the last of a dead breed of Tory.
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Several industries have been impacted by Brexit, including:
Automotive: The automotive industry has faced challenges such as:
Supply issues
Higher costs
New tariffs on parts that don't meet rules of origin requirements
Customs delays
Increased administrative costs
Clothing, retail, and food: These industries have faced:
Bigger expenses
Red tape at borders
Transport, hospitality, and retail: These sectors have been particularly hard hit by a lack of workers.
Financial services: This sector may have lost 7,000 jobs, according to a House of Commons report.
Small exporters: Many small exporters have stopped exporting to the EU.
Other impacts of Brexit include:
Wales and Northern Ireland were the regions most affected by Brexit.
Accommodation, construction, and wholesale trade were particularly impacted in terms of earnings and employment levels.
By the end of 2022, total British goods exports had fallen by 6.4% and imports by 3.1%.
Brexit tsunami is coming ✌🏼❤️
brexit mess
Brexiters backed a horse with 3 legs.
brexit =farmers collapse
And it is brilliant
when most of the politicians did not want it, what do you expect, do not vote against what the establishment want or you will be punished, well it has come back and bit them on the arse, it looks like all over europe the people are saying no to the establishment with the rise of reform type parties
They voted for it. 😊
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I came across Adam several years ago on a Forbes post. He nailed everythng perfectly.
Thank you.
You are NEVER getting back in so make the most of it, will of the people etc. You are not needed.
Look at the joy of the people when BJ talked about the Independence Day...😂
The BBC should invite all of them again and show their "happiness" again....
The Bloomberg guy said the truth but many will not believe it until they feel it personally....
That was Farage, not BJ.
@@kurtgodel5236 21:00
But that’s exactly the problem, and it’s lingering. There might not be such an enthusiastic feeling of great things coming, but it would only be replaced with a sort of dejected acceptance, something like “OK, turns out that being in the damn EU is not so _bad_ after all”. But that’s a lousy reason to be in the EU-the idea is that you should *want* to belong somewhere like it, not just concede that not being there is “even worse”. How can the project succeed if the members consider it to be just the least bad of bad options?
@@kurtgodel5236 Look at the video at 21st minute.
@@kurtgodel5236 21st minute.
Buckle up people. It will be torrid and bumpy.
Brexit, bankrupts the English economy, and changes the English color 😂😂Nothing else
It is not as if British voters wouldn't have a choice at general elections : (rightfully) disappointed Labour voters could vote at the next general election for Green Party candidates, moderate common sense Conservative voters could vote for the Liberal Democrats, teaching their respective traditional choices, Tories and Labour, a lesson.
10,133 students in higher education in the UK participated in the 2018 'call' (application period) for study placements abroad through the EU Erasmus+ scheme. A further 8,172 students participated through traineeships (work placements). data from 2018. So just a few strudents he says???????
Lord Frosties, I wouldn’t trust him with anything, all those deals we were going to do, pure gobspeak!
The silence that arrives at 17:20 and ends 17:30 mins into the video, along with the accompanying image of a leading Brexit Shyster, says it all: You can almost hear the rustling of economic tumbleweed in the background. Expect decades of economic failure before any substantial move back to the EU will be considered, all attempts being stymied by "corporate" political parties and a right-wing media. If you're over 60 years of age forget the EU completely; progression back to the EU will be highly unlikely to occur in your lifetime.
Won't happen in the upcoming 50+ years, so anyone above 35 can forget about it.
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@@EllieD.Violet Harsh but probably fair.
Hi Andrea, love to see all those free trade deals that took 2 years.
Didn't Bernard Mathews vote for Brexit? Or was that Christmas?
Moist of the working class families are lucky if they can save all year round and they can go somewhere cheaper like Portugal, with the inflation cost of living going up they may need to put it on a credit card. The middle families go outside of Europe.
Too late. Hard Brexit is destiny!
Yeh, we need a foreign power to tell us how to run every inch of our lives...🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Freedom of movement is an absolute positive thing... without freedom of movement you are living in a prison.
Boris and talent in the same sentence!
Marks and Spencer have 16 outlets in the Republic of Ireland several of these share the forecourt of petrol stations with other retailers . Why is that ???
I used to follow you on you twitter before I left Liz but so glad I don’t now. Not after I heard that ridiculous diatribe I heard you rant about Labour and Farmers. They should have been arrested for distrusting traffic in London. Along side the kids tractors at £200 a pop.
What trade deals? These deals are at least the same or considerably worse.
The uk/ NZ deal is much worse than the EU / NZ deal.
You had avreferendum to be part of Europe too, then you had reversed it with another referendum in 2016. So I cannot see why you call democracy not to reverse a referendum , but the other was ok to be reversed
Take us back now. The country has become poorer. Our young people are scrambling for EU passports
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Why is Amazon UK saying they cannot ship to my EU location?
We may not be able to ship certain items to your location due to various restrictions. These can include size limits, hazardous materials, local laws, or seller policies..... BREXIT GREAT FOR SMALL BUSINESS
They say that as a general term ,because it is too much hustle for them to do it since Brexit.
I'm sick of hearing from the British media about Brexit betrayal, BS I'm sick of being poor again, I'm fed up with restricted travel, to hell with Brexit it was and will always be a disaster. As for currency I haven't used it in years, I use cards or digital cash so get over it.
No amount of denials, conspiracy theories and excuses can cover up the fact that
the UK committed economic suicide by voting for Brexit.
Hearing 2 old gits talking about freedom of movement for the young makes my blood boil
So glad to see you again. Hope you had a good Christmas. Can't wait to see you in Parliament someday. ❤🎉😊
Correct, seeing her in parliament would be a hoot and a half.
Knowing that as a rosbif she will never make it into the EP 😎.
Thanks, dear EU forefathers, for our veto rights.
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@@EllieD.VioletI'm always amazed at how much time some people have to troll. 😢
@@punditgi 'trolling' as in telling you facts, then.
Fact #1 is that little brexitannia as of date fails to meet 50% of our 🇪🇺 accession criteria.
Fact #2 is that *we* decide, not some random applicant. And appetite for having les rosbifs back is zero, even if they met the CC.
Fact #3: those of us that profit from Brexit will veto them anyway, because they have nothing left of any interest for us 🇪🇺. Hence our gains are our main interest.
Fact #4: explained to you some weeks ago, little brexitannia having blackmailed the other members about vetoing reunited Germany's re-admission unless the eastern expansion was done as they wanted.
I suggest you re-read my explanation, I certainly won't retype it just because of your poor memory or lack of brains in the first place.
But I strongly suspect you'll come up with your standard rubbish again - you're just not bright enough for facts and basic logic.
No surprise the 🍊 abomination was re-elected, given the sub-standard 'Murrican education system as displayed by the likes of you any given day, in any given comment.
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Yes the broken country of Europe again . Why not.
The British Leave faction :
2004. The EU will fall apart next year.
2005. The EU will fall apart next year.
2006. The EU will definitely fall apart next year.
2007. The EU will DEFINITELY fall apart next year.
2008. Etc etc etc...... until Brexit proper and its consequences.
Still, the main thing for HMG is to keep appeasing the proprietors of the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph etc
It is interesting that the UK did not become the sick country in Europe until after it joined the EEC. I.e the end of the 1970s.
@peterclareburt4594 Grow up . Do your math and take a bath of reality.
It is not "of Europe" , in no way.
When is someone going to explain. When you voted to leave , you are no longer part of us as a group or as human beings.
Is the interview new?
Johnson lying
Isn’t it time Starmer tried to appeal to Labour voters? How about respecting everyone who wants EU, at least as much as those Brexiters who trusted in lies so they could be anti immigration?
Joining again is going to take the UK at least 2-3 decades, if her application doesn't get vetoed. The latter is highly likely.
Its time to start looking inward, spend money on infrastructure, training our youth and better education, build up our services and industry.
And for _that_ you needed to leave the EU? It wasn’t possible to do while you were in? Which “EU law” prevented that, I wonder?
Money that the UK does not have, youth that are no use to anybody, industry that cannot
compete with other countries. People should have used their heads and realized that
they were selling their future down line. They still listen to the con men, Farage and
Johnson.
@vencik_krpo you are barking up the wrong tree, but please don't let me stop you from spreading hate over the festive period.
Yes, you've recognized that. What you didn't realize is what it costs and the UK has saved in the last 20 years thanks to their governments especially Tory, 900 billion!!!!
To get to an extremely high education level of BRD, Sweden and Co with 3.5% of GDP, GB is with 1.7% on EU far last place by far! Germany has spent 1100 billion more in the same period than the UK in 20 years on its education system!
So the UK must easily invest an additional 150 billion over 6 years and specialists must be available to set up the training systems! The interesting thing about the UK is that they don't have either! The EU has been complaining about this since the 90s without success. You get what you choose, in this case the worst education system of all EU countries!
@@w47w this is the problem with a lot of people in the UK, they want everything one way, or they will beat down ideas and pull out excuses.
What we need to realise is yes we are in a binde but we need to buckle down and get on with it. I don't mind paying higher taxes just as long as everyone else pays in as well.
We need radical changes, some vision and a bit hard work or the rest of the world are going to leave us behind.
I hope Starmer has the willpower and stamina to overcome the rage in the right. We need to be much, much closer to Europe or we will have years of stagflation.
British dont seem to want to vote for a rejoin party so, may be they should try Lib Dem :)
the Brexitdream may be over, the Brexitnightmare just begun. I think you are facing the dilemma of an "eternal" Brexit with all the consequences and the Rejoin-shock. With no more privileges, like other memberstates. Being a normal member will surely hurt the selfesteem of many people.
There is no 'rejoin shock' - because at barely meeting 50% of our 🇪🇺 accession criteria, we 🇪🇺 don't even waste a single thought on their application. We 🇪🇺 have a waste paper basket.
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@@EllieD.Violet 1. shock ☺
@@prohtmeyhet5600 Yes, the moment when they 🇬🇧 realize it's for at least half a century, if not longer at least for England.
Actions have consequences. Grin.
Just admit that we want back in now
Political events in the USA have shown that anything can happen every 4 years, not what you need with any agreement.
Yeah, I’m afraid Trump has shown us times enough that any accord or treaty the US sign is just very temporary. You might almost say not worth the trouble-the negotiations take longer than the treaty might be in effect.
The EU won't change her constitution or accession criteria just because of an orange hiccup in history.
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Britian will do like Swiss did, signing agreements paying for it and finally signing one total aggrement and pay for it :)
She won't do what the Swiss did. Why? We (EU) won't allow it!
Rejoin EU and restore our faith in democracy.
Can’t rejoin unfortunately. The 27 members of the EU won’t have Britain back in. Out means out, for good.
The random applicant little brexitannia doesn't decide - we EU27 🇪🇺 do.
Our response: try nicely again from 2070 onwards.
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Stay out forever. We don't need/want you back in.
Kier has to stop being scared and initiate joining. If he will not do it the tories will.
So what? Are we 🇪🇺 supposed to care?
Spoiler: we 🇪🇺 won't.
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i think britain leaving the eu, changed the eu, cameron tried ti close the borders but the eu said no , since btrtain left we have had countries now closing their borders, l think the eu realised they screwed up by not allowing britain to control its borders. but it also shows if britain had the balls it could have stayed in the eu and closed its borders. even out of the eu it has not got the balls to close its borders and send back to europe those who cross illegally
What are you even talking about! Nobody in EU closed their borders, there are more checks if necessary, this was always possible if the need arises and a case is made for it. What you seem to assert is that the EU is doing away with freedom of movement and they are definitively n o t doing anything like that. You got yourself royally confused here.
@@MrsGardiner some closed their borders due to covid others to immigrants
Why, after Brexit, english citizens can spend only 90 days every six months in EU???
3rd country rules?!
In 2015, polling showed that the people would vote to remain in the EU. When we had a referendum in 2016, the majority voted to leave. Those same polls predicted Hillary Clinton would be the president that same year. The reality is polls can not be trusted for several reasons including that they take no account of the effect of campaigns which precede referendums. Starmer talks about a "reset", but he will be treated with the same disdain and abuse that Cameron experienced when he tried to get concessions and that May experienced in 2017 when she was frozen out. The Eurocrats will see Starmer as weak and desperate and willing to concede whatever is demanded while gaining precious little in return. Fortunately, Starmer can't rejoin the EU and he knows it, and whatever concessions he does make can be overturned when the next government comes to power, but he could do even more damage to the economy, and relations with potential trading partners, until he is finally removed. You picking a Bloomberg stooge to back up your anti-Brexit diatribe proves nothing. Bloomberg is corporatist and globalist and WEF to its very core.
@DoggleBird Clinton won the popular vote by over 1 millon votes I believe so; the opinion polls were correct as executed. There's always the complication of extrapolating the electoral college tally from the popular vote. Pundits, rather than statisticians I suspect, just jump to conclusions rather than spending the money to achieve a more precise result. The referendum result in 2016 was within the margin of error (52/48).
Cameron, far from being treated with 'disdain' and 'abuse' did come away with important concessions, I remember Juncker announcing that the UK need take no further part in 'ever closer union'. Since this was a principle mentioned even in the original treaty on the functioning of the EEC, the Treaty of Rome 1958; such was a very important concession. The media and the Leave campaign of course, rubbished his efforts and blinded people with propaganda. The concessionary agreement was important enough that Jean-Claude Juncker declared it null and void the first time that he responded publicly to the referendum result.
@@desmondroberts6034 The prediction by the polls was that Clinton would win the presidency. They were wrong. She didn't. Polls are often wrong. Many of the polls in 2015 were outside the margin of error - and polls can change rapidly. They are of little use.
Cameron didn't come away with anything much - he just needed to pretend that he had. The "ever closer union" thing was in relation to what was said in 1957, namely: "...to lay the foundations of an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe". That was always vague nonsense and they weren't conceding anything important.
You STILL working for Putin?
@danganbeg7225 Grow up mate.
You are perfectly right ! Brexit was a brilliant decision.....for the European Union ! It got rid of a parasite that reserved itself unfair privileges by the way of blackmail (remember Margaret Thatcher: "I want my money back"), and of a saboteur of all efforts to develop the EU towards a (con)federal Europe. Thanks to Brexit, the EU is now united like it wasn't for a long time.
When the UK has become the poorest country in Europe the UK will join. Unless Starmer is a bit more clever and will make efforts now to join.
No.
Because by then little brexitannia even will less meet the Copenhagen Criteria than it does as of date (December 2024, 50%). Ever tried to read those accession criteria? Might spare you displaying your embarrassing ignorance.
And, NO, because we 🇪🇺 are not willing to bail out and pay for the self-inflicted stupidity of 65m eejits and their delusions of grandeur for a *second* time, 65m desperate for membership just to recover their ruined economy and then buggering off once they are rolling in the dough again. Brexit 2.0 = rinse and repeat.
The EU is a political and economic union, not some charity for a bunch of yesteryearish gullible, inept supremacists. Vetoes will be issued by the dozen.
But if you personally feel that generous and sympathetic, just donate all of your belongings to some struggling rosbif: your money, your real estate, your savings, your inherited assets, your monthly salary, your pension. Whatever.
Nobody stops you doing so.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
PS Starmer can make efforts all he likes - won't change the facts listed above.
Liz ,you look tired and despondent. WE LOVE YOU AND YOUR CHANNEL. please look after yourself. The cattle are off chipping Sodbury common now.BTW.
The only way is to rejoin the €urozone :)
Are you trolling? The UK was never in the eurozone. What's the UK's currency again?
Have you ever considered reading the acquis communautaire and other EU rulebooks?
Non?
Try it - saves you the embarrassment of looking like an utter fool.
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We are going back to the 70's because of the current labour government.Listening to this deranged gaslighting rejoiner is like listening to a stuck record
_deranged gaslighting rejoiner_ The usual name-calling when devoid of arguments; classic Brexiter hollow rhetoric.
@maartenaalsmeer Hey, but she is a 'deranged remainer'! Still waffles on about little brexitannia's SM membership and some such delusions.
It goes back to the average English person refusing to believe or listen to experts 🙄
I don't think the UK is trying to get a trade deal with the USA. Obviously there will be discussion, but already 22% of the UK's exports go to the USA, and there is plenty of potential to increase that without a trade deal, which is why the UK has already signed 8 trade collaboration agreements with various USA states, i.e. Business development arrangements usung existing trade rules, which are based on WTO rules.
Trade deals can take up to 20 years to negotiate, e.g. EU/Mercosur or even 10+ years. But Trump is only there for 4 years.
ONLY the USA ways and means committee can sign off on trade deals. MOU’s between a US state and a foreign country carry zero weight. You can sign a MOU with your building janitor
@dantownsend4246 I guess you have never been in the position of exporting goods or services to another country, because you certainly don't seem to understand trade.
For a start the USA is the UK's largest export target country. The UK already exports 22% of it's total exports to the USA. That one country takes half the Exports that the whole of the EU, 27 countries takes at the moment. (41%)
And guess what the Ways and Means Committee hasn't signed any of that off.
You see what typically happens is a business in one country sells to a business in another country.
I managed a branch of a USA software sales company covering the Middle East and therefore my branch marketed and sold software to companies in various Middle East countries. Part of that process amongst other things was attending trade fairs which were put on by government bodies and these provided an opportunity for businesses to propose opportunities to other businesses in other countries to trade. It's loosely called business development.
My eldest daughter was the NZ female lead of a delegation arranged between the New Zealand trade competency and the Australian trade competency where they created a forum for businesses from both countries to meet and discuss trade opportunities. The PMs and several ministers of both countries attended. She secured two contracts from that trip which were exports of a service from NZ to Aus.
The Governor of New Jersey came to London recently with a team of his trade people to discuss trade opportunities with equivalents in the UK. Unfortunately that coincided with the Presidential election results and so the meetings were persponed.
So these MOUs are business development arrangements, they allow the USA state trade competencies, and USA state businesses to work with the UK trade competency and UK businesses to discover trade opportunities, and then help those trade opportunities move forward into exports/imports.
In this way that 22% of UK exports to the USA can grow without any Ways and Means Committee approval. That would be another level of trade development, but there is potential to work within the existing agreement. Which is of course under standard WTO rules.
Now this is an important brexit benefit as the UK didn't have a fully staffed trade competency until after the transition, just 4 years ago. They used to send Prince Andrew as a trade Envoy! Now they have a department of some 6,000 staff, more or less.
So now the UK government can move forward business development programmes across all its target trade countries including those in the EU.
The UK has historically, (over the last 40 years) been bad at this. Time to do better and after brexit there is an increased urgency to do better.
@@peterclareburt4594 Wishful thinking is not going to get anything done. The US
is not interested in helping the UK, they have only their own interests in mind.
When will the brexiters realize that they have destroyed the UK economy and
are making it into a 3rd world country.
We have taken back control of our laws, our borders and our country! It has been expensive, and we have lost certain rights, such as to live and work in Europe, but no one promised it would be easy. So far I think we can say it has been a qualified success, and Starmer can built on this. We can now trade all around the world without worrying about the EU!
What are you smoking?
@Holliethedog
There's that fantastic CPTPP trade deal which will increase UK GDP by 0.08 per cent over 20 years !! Way to go, Brexiteers !
We could trade around the world in the EU.
Trading with the EU part of the world and the part of the world with existing agreement with the EU on the other hand.
@@michaelmayo3127 Democracy, which you should try if you want to overturn the historic referendum of 2016! It was just one more step, like the Reformation and the Industrial Revolution leading to England's greatness!
Imagine if the farmers finally got a backbone and called the Brexchimps out for lying????????????????
Tory drivel.
Did you support Brexit?