@@eldijdjbruh214 20 percent free crit rate 89 cd 50 percent dmg bonus 55 with lc 40% er endless sp and 100 av dont even put them in the same sentence lol
@@rhooaias Sunday is just Bronya with better numbers and features. They have the exact same function 1 to 1 and even use the exact same speed stat of 135-134. Sunday is prolly going to be a tier 0 support but he's literally just Bronya.
@@HalalBread1427 Not at all. This would only be bit significant if you're not using a FUA team. I have tried a lot of hypercarry comps with Ratio and Aven, especially with Bronya, and I see no difference from the refreshing of shields because of how many times Ratio does his chalks.
i think this couldve been more optimized if you save jq's ult to proc ratios fua instead of using it everytime it's available. also it's okay if you use robins ult once you get it up instead of waiting the end of cycle before using it. the av is enough to push them 2 more actions anyways. nonetheless, thanks for the showcase!
According to actual data backup on Prydwen the fastest performing team for MoC for Ratio is with huohuo. In fact, she’s funneling energy + atk for Ratio, Jiaoqiu and Robin (all 3 scaling with both stats).
Now I can finally run double follow up with Ratio, Moze, Sunday and Aventurine on one side and Feixiao, March, Robin and Lingsha on the other. I don't have neither Topaz or Bronya/Sparkle so that's what I can do but maybe, in the really low chance of me getting both Sunday and Fugue, I could run her instead of Moze in the fisrt team
@katherinezhou I agree but I also don't have Jiaoqiu, in the perfect world where I get both Sunday and Fugue she goes to the first team with the same lc we use on Pela and use her skill on my Aventurine (E0S0), this way I can get more debuffs, but if I lost her them I'll go with Moze for the first team
It would be nice if they made it so that energy regen applies to all team members. It'd be a cool combo then with Huo Huo, where they help each other get their Ults back fast without using Ult on Huo Huo
Sundays ER is actually higher than E6 Tingyun already though. Since his ultimate gives 20% of max energy, but it will never give less than 40 (due to a trace). Then add the 30 energy you get with the dps skill after Sunday advances them and you have 70 energy. Especially if you have the -1 speed Sunday setup, you can skill/basic with the dps (30/20 energy), advance with Sunday, Sunday ult (40 energy) and skill (30 energy) which gets a total of 100 energy (90 if basic atk) Add the ER to Sundays other buffs such as crit rate, crit dmg, 100% action forward, dmg% and cleanse (all applying to summons too) while being SP positive. The reason the parts of his kit are smaller is because he does more overall. He’d simply be too powerful if his existing buffs were stronger, there’s already a video where he performs the same level (if not very slightly better) as an E6 Sparkle in a Dan Heng IL team…
imma use both + hyperspeed gallagher for debuff. i wish there was a sustain that debuff more than aven/gallagher/lingsha but maybe in the future. but gallagher actually works fine for me as the one debuffer/sustain for ratio
Can you try dps robin? With a team that consists of Robin, Sunday, Bronya and (Any sustain or another harmony) and this is my idea if sunday's skill last 2 turns of the targeted ally won't it stay at robin if you use it on her plus use bronya's skill and because of robin's ult won't sunday and bronya's skill buff stay on robin?
@@Reader_and_Tls123since he has 100% AA, him and bronya could effectively action advance each other and charge their ults to full while consuming no sp and even generating it to full (if you have Sunday s1 and e1s1 Bronya)
Yo bro possibly compare clear AcheronE2S1 and jiaoqiu E0S1and robinE0S1 and aventurine E0S1 vs AcheronE0S1 and jiaoqiuE0S1 and fugue E0S1 and Aventurine E0S0 please ?
I clear AS with Ratio, Huohuo, March and Robin f2p with 3k points.. Is Aventurine better than HuoHuo? I thought of pulling him, but I already have Huohuo.
Could you try doing a hypercarry team with Topaz? Like Sunday/robin/Numby/sustain 😂 ik its dumb but I havent seen any showcases with her(I dont even have her) 😭
@@larcade1329she's only better than jiaoqiu in a ratio team if she's at e1s1 if not than jiaoqiu over her cause he applies enough debuffs to guarantee ratio to FUA each turn
@@Saf_Png even then E1S1 Jiaoqiu>E1S1 Topaz. Topaz only team is Feixiao, she never was part of Ratio's team, Ratio is a Hyper Carry, not a duo dps chracter.
@@BailuGaming I know but I'm saying that the only time where she's better than jiaoqiu in a ratio team when she's at e1s1 cause how coincidentally she can gets the 3 debuffs but IT'S TOO expensive jiaoqiu can do that when he's at e0s0 unlike her
not really, Jiaoqiu is necessary for his debuffs. If you don’t have him on the team then you’ll also need to change huohuo too in exchange for gallagher or s1 aventurine. By then it’s not the same team anymore
i know they cleared same cycle but the fact that the aoe buffer made ratio do 220k fua and 180k ults, while sunday only let him do like 160k fua and 100k ults... even ignoring robin procs she still easily gaps in terms of raw damage buff. Robin was overtuned dude
*Clears in same cycles and Sunday giving Ratio more turns, actions, faster ult time because of ER and consistent 100%AA in trade of Robin screenshot numbers* Hsr player: waow Robin broken because bigger number she’s so overtuned 🤡🤡🤡
@sladeTek oh lets be real the robin showcase used her badly, you have huohuo to fix her energy issues and you have robin personal damage to account for as well.
ratio have plenty of supports and buffers, sunday is made for different category of characters, some says new meta is coming soon and he will be their main support, leave ratio to aventurine, pela robin, topaz moze jiao and etc
@giuseppe99gs for the Robin run specifically, you're not supposed to hold Ult until the end of the cycle. Instead you should have popped Ult immediately at 9:18. With how Action advance works, you would have gotten two team rotations under Concerto state in the first circle instead of just one rotation under Concerto state in the first cycle like you did in the showcase.
Ratio with Halo looks so divine
Divine Enlightenment. Divine Light Judgement.
blessed with knowledge
he’s so hot
yeaaa i wish you could see it in the ults too
sunday is actually so good already and his niche aint even fully out
Bronya sidegrade smh
@@eldijdjbruh214 20 percent free crit rate 89 cd 50 percent dmg bonus 55 with lc 40% er endless sp and 100 av dont even put them in the same sentence lol
@@rhooaias Sunday is just Bronya with better numbers and features. They have the exact same function 1 to 1 and even use the exact same speed stat of 135-134. Sunday is prolly going to be a tier 0 support but he's literally just Bronya.
@@komgoo4974 nah he is bronya + Tingyun at the same time which is insane
@@komgoo4974 but isn't that a good thing though? Like bronya is broken I am honestly glad to have a second bronya in my account
I love seeing Ratio hyper carry get more viable
I might end up running this, but with Aven instead of Huo Huo
Aven has major anti-synergy with Bronya/Sunday: the double turns causes his shield to expire before he can refresh it.
@@HalalBread1427nah it’s fine it’s not that much turn, ratio does fua he will definitely refresh his shield before it runs out
@@HalalBread1427no it works fine with bronya, as long as everyone is getting hit and ratio does fua it will work
@@HalalBread1427 My Aventurine is e1, it shouldn't be a problem.
@@HalalBread1427 Not at all. This would only be bit significant if you're not using a FUA team. I have tried a lot of hypercarry comps with Ratio and Aven, especially with Bronya, and I see no difference from the refreshing of shields because of how many times Ratio does his chalks.
i think this couldve been more optimized if you save jq's ult to proc ratios fua instead of using it everytime it's available. also it's okay if you use robins ult once you get it up instead of waiting the end of cycle before using it. the av is enough to push them 2 more actions anyways.
nonetheless, thanks for the showcase!
Also could I maybe see Argenti, Tingyun and Sunday together? Sunday definitely seems good for him
I saw some gameplay of them together they definitely work
include fugue for colourless breeak and thief on argenti
I am having a visceral reaction watching you play robin
Like bro 💀
Note: Aventurine gets buffed by debuffs and procs more fast Ratio's Follow-ups, so it was better than Huohuo.
Bruh. I love Ratio's gameplay with Nihility
According to actual data backup on Prydwen the fastest performing team for MoC for Ratio is with huohuo. In fact, she’s funneling energy + atk for Ratio, Jiaoqiu and Robin (all 3 scaling with both stats).
@@tieAcherry101 Yeah I sometimes ran into energy issue with Robin in Dr ratio team, so Huohuo is really good in that team
It's not tho , Aventurine does less for the team at e0 s0
yeah he is literaly his best buddie on screen and on the battelfeald
"how bad can you be at video games?"
giu: "hold my mouse"
i just realized jiaoqui and sunday is basically pela and tingyun but power creeped
Sunday is more Bronya power creep than anything. He does literally everything she does but better.
@@TerraTheWiseis Bronyas only advantage her party wide ultimate?
@@danny1393 and ATK% boost.
@danny1393 on non summon units her skill damage buff is stronger vs Sunday's skill damage buff. But it's also only one turn
@@GreenFire729sunday buffs more
The showcase becomes kind of pointless when you use Robin like Box2.
Hi Giu, u can test Ratio Jiaoqiu Aven Sunday all e0s1? please
Now I can finally run double follow up with Ratio, Moze, Sunday and Aventurine on one side and Feixiao, March, Robin and Lingsha on the other. I don't have neither Topaz or Bronya/Sparkle so that's what I can do but maybe, in the really low chance of me getting both Sunday and Fugue, I could run her instead of Moze in the fisrt team
I think JiaoQiu is better than Fugue in your first team.
@katherinezhou I agree but I also don't have Jiaoqiu, in the perfect world where I get both Sunday and Fugue she goes to the first team with the same lc we use on Pela and use her skill on my Aventurine (E0S0), this way I can get more debuffs, but if I lost her them I'll go with Moze for the first team
you could use pela or moze for the first team tbh
i mean instead of getting fugue
Good job, now you've put the artist link, thank you for that
Now I can make my dream imaginary bois team!
Something like ratio, sunday, Aventurine and welt on resolution?
@@greenvega my first team was Ratio were Jiao Ratio Moze Aven now instead of Moze will be Sunday, my poor moze😢
This is exactly the team i was planning on running with Ratio thank you 😭🙏
Can you test argenti + tingyun e6 + sunday e0 (w/ bronya lc) + huohuo e0s1? Im curious to see how often this team can keep argenti ult topped up.
I have a request : can you do yunli Sunday 4* tingyun and huohuo? And see if Sunday is better in that team instead of robin
would love to see Ratio, Robin, Sunday and gallagher
If you're reading comments, can I ask you for jingliu hypercarry team with sunday? 🙏
Now we need Topaz hypercarry w/Sunday/Robin
True she also has Numby which is a Summon
I want to see video about this.
Same I haven't seen a single showcase with a Topaz hypercarry + Sunday
can 0c Hoolay at the investment
E0S1 Topaz
E1S1 Robin
E0S1 Aven
E0S0 Sunday
@@BailuGaming u have any link?
It would be nice if they made it so that energy regen applies to all team members. It'd be a cool combo then with Huo Huo, where they help each other get their Ults back fast without using Ult on Huo Huo
Yeah but Sunday is meant to be single target so I doubt they’d change that
They should até least make him tive more energy Sunday and huohuo tive the Same energy but huohuo do for ALL the team
They should buff Sunday er ult tbh and also change that trace 1 cleanse and just put it on the skill
Sundays ER is actually higher than E6 Tingyun already though. Since his ultimate gives 20% of max energy, but it will never give less than 40 (due to a trace). Then add the 30 energy you get with the dps skill after Sunday advances them and you have 70 energy. Especially if you have the -1 speed Sunday setup, you can skill/basic with the dps (30/20 energy), advance with Sunday, Sunday ult (40 energy) and skill (30 energy) which gets a total of 100 energy (90 if basic atk)
Add the ER to Sundays other buffs such as crit rate, crit dmg, 100% action forward, dmg% and cleanse (all applying to summons too) while being SP positive. The reason the parts of his kit are smaller is because he does more overall. He’d simply be too powerful if his existing buffs were stronger, there’s already a video where he performs the same level (if not very slightly better) as an E6 Sparkle in a Dan Heng IL team…
@@imylq"Sunday's actually give higher er than E6 Tingyun" ~🤓☝️
Process shows the gameplay not burst kit
Sunday smaller dmg but more turn for ratio.
imma use both + hyperspeed gallagher for debuff. i wish there was a sustain that debuff more than aven/gallagher/lingsha but maybe in the future. but gallagher actually works fine for me as the one debuffer/sustain for ratio
Holding them Robin ults for Honkshoo Starbucks 2
i just realised i have never seen his ba yet lol
Can you try dps robin? With a team that consists of Robin, Sunday, Bronya and (Any sustain or another harmony) and this is my idea if sunday's skill last 2 turns of the targeted ally won't it stay at robin if you use it on her plus use bronya's skill and because of robin's ult won't sunday and bronya's skill buff stay on robin?
It won’t action advance her though. His skill does not action advance Harmony units.
@@cielsteam wait really? I didn't know that? May I know why?
@@Reader_and_Tls123since he has 100% AA, him and bronya could effectively action advance each other and charge their ults to full while consuming no sp and even generating it to full (if you have Sunday s1 and e1s1 Bronya)
Why not aventurine?
Sunday will burn Avens shield in -1 spd setup
@@airishu1which means Robin is better cuz she allows Aven
@@discreaminant huohuo is a powerful abundance too, just because you can't use aventurine doesn't make robin better
Action advance n shield not really good pair😅
@ameerr0812 makes sense
Howdy, where'd you get the 2.6.53 version? Are you using old RobinSR?
Can u try Boothill e0s0, Fugue e1, Sunday e0 or Bronya e2 and Lingsha or Gallagher pls 🙏🙏?? (Without Ruan Mei)
Yo bro possibly compare clear AcheronE2S1 and jiaoqiu E0S1and robinE0S1 and aventurine E0S1 vs AcheronE0S1 and jiaoqiuE0S1 and fugue E0S1 and Aventurine E0S0 please ?
Can you try Sunday Jingyuan Hanya and Fu Xuan?
Hi can u do Ratio E0S0 - Robin E0S0 - Sunday E0S1 - Aven E1S1?
I clear AS with Ratio, Huohuo, March and Robin f2p with 3k points.. Is Aventurine better than HuoHuo? I thought of pulling him, but I already have Huohuo.
they do completely different things and handle different niches
Can you test sunday vs robin in feixiao team?
Can you do the same but w Acheron?
Could you try doing a hypercarry team with Topaz? Like Sunday/robin/Numby/sustain 😂 ik its dumb but I havent seen any showcases with her(I dont even have her) 😭
I’m also wondering why Jiaqiu was used instead of topaz. Surely he’s not better right?
@@larcade1329she's only better than jiaoqiu in a ratio team if she's at e1s1 if not than jiaoqiu over her cause he applies enough debuffs to guarantee ratio to FUA each turn
@@Saf_Pngthis is also a hypercarry team.... Basically only Ratio is being buffed that significantly so at that point just go Jiaoqiu
@@Saf_Png even then E1S1 Jiaoqiu>E1S1 Topaz. Topaz only team is Feixiao, she never was part of Ratio's team, Ratio is a Hyper Carry, not a duo dps chracter.
@@BailuGaming I know but I'm saying that the only time where she's better than jiaoqiu in a ratio team when she's at e1s1 cause how coincidentally she can gets the 3 debuffs but IT'S TOO expensive jiaoqiu can do that when he's at e0s0 unlike her
Can u try Sunday with Seele?
No same waiting for someone to do it .. sparkle ain't doing much anymore
Would a team consisting of ratio/ topaz work with Sunday?
If ur topaz e1s1 it could work otherwise she is mid
Can i put robin and sunday together on this team with ratio?
not really, Jiaoqiu is necessary for his debuffs. If you don’t have him on the team then you’ll also need to change huohuo too in exchange for gallagher or s1 aventurine. By then it’s not the same team anymore
Damn the 2.7 MoC looks really bad for Hunt characters
Can you do this team next please?
Aventurine (E0S0) Sunday (E0S1) Feixiao (E0 with S5 herta lc) and March hunt (E6 with any S5 4* lc)
Feixiao zzzzzzz
@@Zereyxdd ?
@@Arc1515 🥵
@@Zereyxdd what?
Silverwolf in JQ place will make the team worse or nah?
Worse because enemies already have img weakness; there is no point of bring sw there.
this is so painful to watch... 😢
you’ll be fine
Is there a reason e0s1 jiaqiu replaced e0s1 topaz? And shouldn’t the robin team have Aventurine too? Or is this a solo ratio dps team?
Jiaoqiu provides constant debuffs for Ratio, you need E1S1 Topaz to match him
@@BananaCake26 okay, I have e1s1 topaz. I assume that’s better damage too?
@@larcade1329Yes
Ah sunday so flexible and WHERE IS DR.RATIO RERUN hoyo reruning midpaz 2 times already
i know they cleared same cycle but the fact that the aoe buffer made ratio do 220k fua and 180k ults, while sunday only let him do like 160k fua and 100k ults... even ignoring robin procs she still easily gaps in terms of raw damage buff. Robin was overtuned dude
*Clears in same cycles and Sunday giving Ratio more turns, actions, faster ult time because of ER and consistent 100%AA in trade of Robin screenshot numbers*
Hsr player: waow Robin broken because bigger number she’s so overtuned 🤡🤡🤡
@sladeTek oh lets be real the robin showcase used her badly, you have huohuo to fix her energy issues and you have robin personal damage to account for as well.
@@Wawawawawa750 this entire showcase was bad…
@@sladeTekWell.... Robin is overtuned so
@@sladeTekI do agree with you but she still is an overtuned unit
hi
ratio have plenty of supports and buffers, sunday is made for different category of characters, some says new meta is coming soon and he will be their main support, leave ratio to aventurine, pela robin, topaz moze jiao and etc
Can you test 134 speed E2 Acheron with e0s1 sunday 161 speed and e2 bronya 160 speed + jiao
Why 134 speed on Acheron if she's gonna get pull up by hyperspeed Sunday and bronya anyway?
At this point just slap there robin, make sunday -1 spd and jiaoqiu, and everything dead from 1 ult
Why not Aven? Ratio-aven get more fua and debuff than huohuo. I dont complain jiao bcs he indeed give debuff
teamwide energy and 40% atk buff is better
Eu diria a robin e melhor pro ratio
Why not both, slap there sw/jiaoqiu and 0 cycle it
The worst game play I've ever seen 🤡
If you can tell me why
@giuseppe99gs for the Robin run specifically, you're not supposed to hold Ult until the end of the cycle. Instead you should have popped Ult immediately at 9:18. With how Action advance works, you would have gotten two team rotations under Concerto state in the first circle instead of just one rotation under Concerto state in the first cycle like you did in the showcase.
그래도 추공은 로빈이지 않을까..요...?
if you dont mind please make a showcase with argenti x sunday next time cus i really like your vids :3