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  • @ashy969
    @ashy969 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The General must be very important lore-wise throughout the game if they keep trying to boost him... that's the only reason I can think of why they keep buffing him....

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's General Jing "I am the Reinforcement" Yuan..!

  • @AevyCh
    @AevyCh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    We can finally have pseudo 400 SPD by combining *BOTH* -1 Sunday & Bronya!
    One more Bronya Pro Max & we'll have pseudo 500 SPD 🔥 (Hoolay more like wholay)

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That could honestly be Hoyo's plan for 4.X. Hyper carries strike back! With 3 Bronya like supports lol

  • @soaring__sky
    @soaring__sky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Hello it is I, the Critsha owner. I'm ABSOLUTELY pairing them together

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I thought Critsha was a myth this entire time lol

    • @darealbingoxz1142
      @darealbingoxz1142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      with robin, not really ig

    • @soaring__sky
      @soaring__sky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @GoodestDuck tbh she's high investment. I got mine to E2S1 (tho Luocha LC would be better for this than her Sig cause atk boost + the energy lets you replace ERR rope with Break rope). Banana planar the goat for this I'm at 1.8k ATK 70-136 crit 138 speed and 171% break effect. Using Robin+Sparkle+Yukong atm I've hit some enemies in moc12 for 50k-60k each no breaks (so like 250k on skills/fuas and 300k on ults). Cleared moc12 1st half in 5 cycles that way, an inch away from 4 I'm sure if I kept trying (and improved her relics no doubt) I'd get it

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's always fun to have these different ways to build characters instead of forcing us to play a character in a linear way. Love this.

    • @DmitryShuldeshov_SchemaTherapy
      @DmitryShuldeshov_SchemaTherapy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soaring__sky My Lingsha E1S1. And she does 300k - 600k. With E2S1 Ruan and E6S5 TB. But, yes, she doesn't do any damage while they are not broken. We need to compare their damage when your Lingsha will pair with Sunday and mine - with Fugue. XDDDD

  • @Elfcon
    @Elfcon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    0:36
    The answer is yes also I will use my E1S1 Sunday with My E2S1 Acheron

    • @TheGwilwileth
      @TheGwilwileth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too…😅

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I would also be using Sunday with my Acheron in the meantime. However there's a certain lightning general sitting on my bench asking "For me maybe 👉👈"

    • @adamcobb7892
      @adamcobb7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking the exact thing. My Acherons e2, s1 as of now. Grab that e2 in a couple weeks. Or a week? Super stoked bc my general will get a buff too.

    • @JohnSmith-ri2ed
      @JohnSmith-ri2ed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll do sparkle sunday pela for that 100% defense reduction 🤓

  • @RandomPerson-sh9tu
    @RandomPerson-sh9tu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Before watching the video, I will say that I've seen the reddit, and 99% of commenters fall under 1 of 2 categories, mostly caused by Jingyuan showcases, there is no middle ground, everyone is on either extreme.
    1) Sunday needs a nerf because the amount of damage and actions he gives Jingyuan in his best beta team compared to his best current team is so insane that it's powercreeping characters like Sparkle massively and is outdamaging many of the current best teams. Atm his best beta team uses Sunday + Robin.
    2) Sunday needs a buff because the difference in Jingyuan's damage with his best beta team, which is Sunday + Robin, and best beta team without Robin is so massive that he's only good with Robin and needs to be better without her.
    Both sides are incredibly biased in what they're comparing, when what they SHOULD be comparing in terms of Jingyuan is the damage comparison in Jingyuan's CURRENT best time and his BETA's best team that DOESN'T use Robin.
    My guess is that Sunday is gonna be a decent character for any Jingyuan teams, but becomes insanely good if you pair him with Robin, and that he won't need massive buffs or massive nerfs to be a good harmony like all the others, both for Jingyuan and anyone else.
    Maybe that'll end up being wrong, but it certainly doesn't change the fact that reddit is extremely biased. Group 2 is comparing just Robin + Sunday with Sunday + anyone else, and group 1 is comparing Robin + Sunday with his existing best comps. Once we get better comparisons hopefully they'll all stop.
    TLDR: Basically a war on reddit about whether he needs buffs or nerfs, but both sides are not making reasonable comparisons.

  • @esawaHSR
    @esawaHSR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sunday will be one of the top 3 best characters in the game, alongside Robin and Ruan Mei

  • @legallydeaf
    @legallydeaf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:41 "YOU'RE GONNA WHA-- oh"

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Relics won't be the only things coming off... her lc too!

  • @meliho27
    @meliho27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i think you made this video on his pre buff kit, after the buff his traces now instead of not using sp with 2 turn cooldown, just does not use any sp as long as its being used on the character that affected by his ultimate, also now he recharges a minimum of 40 energy

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't think V3 had a single nerf, so Sunday is only better than advertised in this video.

  • @alnonegiz-j3j
    @alnonegiz-j3j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The great yapper but it has a point since all about philosophy.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He kind of had a good point. Too bad he'll never beat the Main Characters! 😆

  • @usmansubhani7482
    @usmansubhani7482 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ruan Mei = Best Break support 10/10
    Robin = Best follow-up support 10/10
    …I’m seeing a pattern here. I guess I’ll have to pull both Sunday and Fugue after skipping so many banners recently with Feixiao/Lingsha/etc.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If recent leaks on Robin are true, then she somehow became even more valuable once Remembrance/Summon characters start to appear in 3.x. It really is just Robin's world 😆

  • @sekirothegreatshinobi2332
    @sekirothegreatshinobi2332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well, personally I do like Jing Yuan. But, his Lightning Lord has this Problem for being way to slow, despite all the other Buffs he got. So, if Sunday is really that good, I might consider going for them both at some Point. Besides, Sunday seems also insanely good for Hypercarries, which is another fair Reason to go for him. But, gonna focus on getting Acheron and her Lightcone first.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sunday is like a modern version of Bronya, so he should not have issues with hyper carries for the most part. His true value will shine when more summon characters start coming out. Hopefully, the Fate collab characters are summon-based 🙏

    • @sekirothegreatshinobi2332
      @sekirothegreatshinobi2332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GoodestDuck Yeah, and since I don't have Bronya yet, going for Sunday will be great. But, for now I have other Characters/Teams I want to pull for. Like, Acheron for my second Endgame Team. Plus, other Units.

  • @raiveresterok
    @raiveresterok 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video explanation!
    You earn new subscriber.
    I basically knew you from Honkai Story recap videos back then but I didn't subscribe because of Stelle statement.
    I picked Caelus (HSR) and Lumine (GI).
    Stelle and Aether didn't click for me.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and welcome 😄
      It's been so long since I've done a recap video, but I think you're referring to the first one, most likely.

  • @Sundayc4
    @Sundayc4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guide looks really clean. I like itttt HAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. I'm glad to hear that!

  • @GoodestDuck
    @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hello~ This video was made during V2 of Beta so some numbers have changed in V3. Nothing in V3 that screams OMG but it's always good to keep in mind that beta versions can somewhat change a character so the Sunday in this video may not reflect the Sunday on release.

    • @TaviiCatniss
      @TaviiCatniss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Traces had a big change, he's sp neutral now

  • @claudiowiseman8488
    @claudiowiseman8488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm going to pull and i'm the start of the line for Hanabi/sparkle refunds

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm surprised they didn't give us a Sparkle rerun while she's off doing her own thing in a honkai 3rd crossover

  • @Luke27WT
    @Luke27WT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    there is one problem for me: his 20% CR would make me rebuild my already built characters i spent a lot of energy on to get good builds with 90+ CR. also they mostly use relics from caverns that are ineffective to farm for me now, like ice set, physical set, quantum set etc.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I've been too lazy to farm for good relics, so most of my characters aren't even at 90% crit rate. 😆
      But think of it this way: we can now just stop at 80% crit rate for our future crit rate/damage characters, thanks to Sunday!

    • @Luke27WT
      @Luke27WT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck well we can, but still... it would mean that i won't be able to use him with my older ones)
      nevertheless, i already pulled rappa instead)

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Playing the new story mission made me want to pull for Rappa. Had to stop myself >.

    • @Luke27WT
      @Luke27WT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GoodestDuck "temptating whisper"
      you can still get luuucky... if you think about do you need her or not, you waaant her...

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm cooked if I start thinking "what if I get lucky" and before I know, it I'm 70 pulls in about to hit hard pity 😭

  • @muhdazhad04
    @muhdazhad04 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What would be his BIS Relics to farm now in advance?

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's no new relics coming in 2.7 so it should be Sacerdos. If you have Bronya then you could just use her relics temporary.
      4 Piece Effect: When using Skill or Ultimate on one ally target, increases the ability target's CRIT DMG by 18%, lasting for 2 turn(s). This effect can stack up to 2 time(s).

  • @yahoo7777777
    @yahoo7777777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lingsha, fugue, Sunday, Ruan mei will be a really fun breaking team

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's the first thing I'm doing IF I pull both of them 2.7 characters. But one unlucky day and I could be wiping my tears with a yanqing 😅

    • @Alex143e
      @Alex143e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got my 300 BE lingsha 😂, only Fugue and Sunday

  • @HandOn-c40009
    @HandOn-c40009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fate Collab preview character basically, I hate how they give us one patch break and then put us on non stop train ahhhh

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fate Collab for that easy "Servant" mechanic. It's so peak!

  • @nacereddinechallal4405
    @nacereddinechallal4405 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I m sure Sunday will get a rerun soon after more summon dps release (inhaling copium cuz i m summoning for Aventurine)

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe around the time when we get those Fate collab characters 🤔

  • @niko4570
    @niko4570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im pulling sunday for my critsha&Jade Team

  • @adamcobb7892
    @adamcobb7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get to put that crit dmg body on Acheron, grab her e2 in a week (at e1, s1 now) Acherons crit rate will need to be like 35? Sunday plus her e1.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      35 is really all she needs? Damn, who says Acheron is getting powercrept. I need names lol

  • @Redishrat_Ch
    @Redishrat_Ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jing Yuan main... Will he truely make me able to use my favourite character again?

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's now or never. All in!

  • @Vastfill
    @Vastfill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only pulling for Sunday because of fate

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of those Fate collab characters should be Summon-based. It's the easiest slam dunk for Hoyoverse. Like, we're not going to just have Rin as a character but no Archer. At least I hope not.

    • @Vastfill
      @Vastfill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck I'm 100% certain the collab characters will be servant based, there's no way they release a servant based mechanic and not have the fate characters not be servant based. In fact I'm willing to bet they introduced the servant mechanics because of the fate collab. So I think Rin will def be with Archer.

  • @Lybrel
    @Lybrel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    oof, skipped all 3 of the summon characters (correctly 😊) and going to assume MidYuan is still worse than 0-nihility Acheron. also, Hoyo should make Yanqing summon swords

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Grown up Yanqing would be cool. They could even rip off some of their Honkai Impact 3rd assets for Adult Yanqing 😅

    • @HandOn-c40009
      @HandOn-c40009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Topaz is fun though
      speaking of NoDamageYuan I heard rumor that the new summon character is going to be lightning type so yeah...

    • @kurobot100
      @kurobot100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You'll be surprised Jing Yuan might be better than Acheron specially with beta tests 😂

    • @noerufrost643
      @noerufrost643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Its okay, us KingYuan mains dont need Acheron stans 😂

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      2.7 Shall be rename to "Jing Yuan Strikes Back" 😄

  • @dragonkyuu
    @dragonkyuu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is sunday going to be worth it if I dont have robin or jiaqiu? I already have sparkle and bronya so I really dont feel the need even if he makes my jing yuan stronger but I really suffered with not getting robin so im unsure… I need fugue/ herta so Im becoming very lost on the priorities

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry for late response, for some reason I didn't get a notification from TH-cam. Anyways,
      Sunday is going to be at his best when paired with the upcoming "Summon" characters(aglaea, remembrance trailblazer, and future 3.x characters)
      With that said, here are a few points to consider.
      1) Do you plan on going for Summon characters in the future?
      Since you have Bronya and Sparkle, getting Sunday to only use him as a Bronya Version 2 is a bit wasteful in my opinion. It's like getting a wireless headphone and then never using it's wireless feature.
      2)Fugue and Herta are not contending for the same role on a team. Fugue is a good starting point if you want to start investing in the Break playstyle which means you should consider Fugue if Break Playstyle is your cup of tea. She will need you to invest in other Break Characters to fully use her.
      The Herta is different as she is the core of her own team. You can always play Break teams without Fugue but you CAN'T play Herta teams without The Herta if that makes sense.
      Regardless, you should always pull on characters that you vibe with. Pulling for "meta" while not liking a character will usually result in disappointment once the character starts falling off.
      Feel free to reply to this comment if anything I said wasn't clear. Sorry if there are any grammar/clarity issues.

    • @dragonkyuu
      @dragonkyuu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ tysm for replying!! I didnt get topaz or any of the fua characters aside from yunli and I main break teams as my only competitive group (e1 ff ftp) so I do very well whenever I can use break but I often struggle in second half for anything now that things like pf is bigger on boss killing rather than mobs clears. I have quite a few eruditions that I want to pair with herta so that isnt an issue but I struggle a lot with dps outside of break so im trying to pick my next few a bit more carefully… i do have a well built acheron but no jiaoqui so she is struggling a ton recently.
      didnt get boothill or rappa or feixiao
      I am interested in summon as well as I hate dot but is sunday going to just be good with summon or is summon only going to be good with him…? is what im a bit confused on. I am interested in aglaea so if hes needed then ill go for him maybe but I dont know if it would be more valuable to rather try for robin again… since she can buff others outside the summons… I am also just way more stressed about it because im on guarantee and I would’ve preferred to get fugue first half so I could leave sunday up to fate

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since you're familiar with using Break teams then the best comparison of Sunday+Summon relationship is that of Ruan Mei/Harmony MC+Break DPS. We don't need Sunday to run current and future Summon characters but having Sunday with make them that much better.
      However since you said you struggle with the 2nd half at times, you should consider improving your second team instead. Are you able to completely clear the end games?(Moc, Pure Fiction, and Apo Shadow)

    • @dragonkyuu
      @dragonkyuu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck I consider the break team quite complete already though I do want fugue (kinda want to run her with acheron as the only nihility I have are pela and welt) so I was more thinking of sunday/robin to buff the second team. I can full clear moc while struggling a ton (died constantly as I didn’t manage to get a single limited sustain until lingsha but had to skip jiaoqiu and robin to guarantee her) but now I struggle with the dps requirements. pf I clear with one star left + apocalyptic shadow I also clear with one star left as my break team is the only one that can keep up.
      still hanging on with moc but I can feel it getting harder and harder and I probably wouldn’t be able to get all the way if ff didnt clear it so fast with the recent break buffs which I assume will end soonish. I have most erudition and most destruction (only missing jingliu)
      was thinking of making a summon team for the second one since I have lingsha (critsha attempted) and jing yuan already and im not too interested in fua as I dislike both topaz and dr ratio

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It seems like you'rel doing well for the most part with a bit of struggle at the final phases. Here's what you could do
      - Run Acheron with a preservation having the Universal Trend LC
      - Consider vertical investment instead. This means going for Eidolon copies on strong universal characters like Acheron instead of pulling for new characters.
      - If you have Rappa/Boothill then getting Fugue will allow you to run a break team on both sides.
      - Since you lack Nihilty characters, Fugue does provide an upgrade over Welt/Pela.
      At the end of the day, both Sunday and Fugue are amazing support characters. There will be pros and cons with getting either. I honestly think you should be greedy and go for both. Split your stellar jade funds in half and let the Honkai gods decide.

  • @pianopaeonia
    @pianopaeonia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How long did you spend on this vid? You REMADE the action order graphic in this vid

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This one took me about a week, but I'm notoriously slow when it comes to editing lol

  • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
    @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BLADE RERUN 2.7 IM BEGGING

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blade was last seen in December of 2023.. he has to rerun before 2024 ends right? 😬

    • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
      @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck I love u :D

    • @white_tulip2189
      @white_tulip2189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can have mine I never use him:(

    • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
      @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ thank u

  • @jakkees
    @jakkees 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One-

  • @RayearthXGaming
    @RayearthXGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i don't have jing yuan so easy skip for me

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      May I interest you with a certain 🦊ian

    • @bluwucat9762
      @bluwucat9762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He is still viable in non-summon teams. This video was made during V2, but his overall kit was buffed on V3. So most DPS can have some use for him now especially with DHIL and Jingliu.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep, Sunday right now can easily slot into a Bronya role on any of her teams, and he will truly shine once more summon characters come out in the future. Overall, he is good now and has a bright future ahead of him.

    • @RayearthXGaming
      @RayearthXGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoodestDuck i like the hot smokey foxian lady

    • @RayearthXGaming
      @RayearthXGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck the other reason why sunday is a skip for me.

  • @candyy12345
    @candyy12345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    hey there. best thing about charmony dove man is his sister :)

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sunday's JP VA is Aqua from Oshi no ko : )

  • @Onii-Chan-UwU
    @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me he is BIG NO... just a few days later FUGUE is staring at me ..and I only have LINGsha who doesn't need Sunday....
    So now he won't be missed atall.. and I will be skipping aglea I presume she is the first electric destruction unit with summon and I already have Kafka and acheron ,...another electro is not necessary I feel....
    Unless I chose her or some other unit with summons I can fully say Sunday aint selling to me....😅😅😅

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is speculation on my part, but there might be a chance that the Fate Collab characters will be summon-based. Hopefully, if they are, Sunday will have his rerun before or during the collaboration characters.

    • @kurobot100
      @kurobot100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Onii-Chan-UwU power creep is enough to make a character useless

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodestDuck true ...but herta aeon is something I'm fixated at after fugue...🧐

  • @janestarkage1
    @janestarkage1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The moment Sunday drops, Im robbing Bronya and Sparkle of all their pieces. So they better pray I get lucky in the relic mines.

    • @GoodestDuck
      @GoodestDuck  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, even her lightcone is gone lol