If you are fighting against wind weak enemies (which is why you bring feixiao anyways) an E4 Bronya can perform great in place of Robin. This allows you to use Robin in the other team of either memory of chaos or apocalyptic shadow, or if you don’t own her and can’t afford to get her. Robin propaganda is real, top teammate for Feixiao in terms of strength (from strongest first) is her + e4+ bronya (if wind weak) -> e1s1 topaz -> e6 moze -> e6 march -> bronya. However, you are probably much better of getting robin’s e1 if you don’t own topaz and sticking with moze/march, or even an e0/1/2 bronya. Pulling priority is as follows (meta wise): E0 Robin -> E0 Feixiao -> S1 Feixiao -> E1 Robin -> S1 Robin -> E1+ Feixiao At the end of the day, this is just a video game, so pull for who you like the most.
@acow1348 of course, march 7th and topaz doesn't have that much of a difference, there is already the math out there. Whereas e2 feixiao literally increase her ultimate frequency by alot. And also having 1 strong character will have a higher chance for that character to stay in the meta rather than two mediocre character. Since new character are bound to be powercrept
I’m glad Bronya works alright with her even if it’s not 0 cycle, as long as I can 3 star clear idc, she deserves some love. I love the idea of those two being on the same team. They give similar vibes with gunblades and being like a position of authority and also being wind… I’m excited for Fei’s release 😁
Interesting that finally E4 Bronya has a new niche to play with that followup instead of just being a useless gimmick. I wanna see more of what other high eidolon base 5star is able to do
@@zbxbiiin- Lingsha may or might not be more SP hungry, but she would still have more FuA against less attacking enemies. You saying otherwise doesn't change their kit.
@@TheTenzen12 im not trying to change her kit im just saying a break effect healer doesn't do as much as aventurine does to feixiao she does not do more follow ups then Aventurine he is a mile better then lingsha, the amount of times feixiao and moze do follow ups for aventurine is crazy he'll do his follow in no time good shield and a increase crit dmg debuff. Even with less attacking enemies Aventurine is still better. Either you don't have Aventurine or idk
i was pretty excited when i got my e4 bronya. however i was dissapointed to realize that the follow up attack from bronya doesnt trigger the 30% action advance from her talent :(
Yeah bronya can't advance herself nor it triggers from her follow up. bronya is mentioned as a partner for robin bc of more passive procs robin can do from bronyas follow ups but thats it. idk if thats enough to make bronya more then a buffer. Id probably run yunli with fei instead. Maybe bronyas buff will outdo her but on paper it looks stronger to have her just counter instead
I honestly want to see someone tru to use Jade E1 as Feixiao Sub-DPS. Why? Because some enemy tend to have mobs spawning left right like the deer or phantylia.. Since every hit from Feixiao, including her fua, counts as 3 stacks each.. Jade could help clear the mobs and add extra stack to feixiao, while fei focus on the main boss.. Sure it will be awful compared to the likes of Moze, March, Topaz.. Tho i just want to see..
@@definiteIynotkenji feixiao isnt acheron. She's not restricted to having a specific path unit with her😂 March hunt, moze, and topaz are all used with her because they attack frequently with follow up to generate stacks, and they buff feixiao's damage (march hunt gives plenty of buffs, moze and topaz debuffs enemies). They all just happened to be hunt charas
I am more impressed with Hoolay than the new chars like wtf is that boss, he is so god damn tanky and hits a lot of times within a cycle. I don’t even have aventurine tp survive this shit on release
Have you or can you do a march vs moze comparison? I thought moze would be better but people told me apparently march is better? I dont have topaz and dont think i ever will pull for her
@@sector1minos1 it would but march preservation isnt preserving shit... while only giving 1/4th of aventurines output if you get lucky u are better off using gal [f2p] fu xuan [ 12% crit rate boost ] or hou hou
as a day 1 player who has e4s1 bronya and e0s0 aventurine/robin planning to pull e0s1 feixiao I am going to pretend I somehow caused this video to happen targeting the very specific set of circumstances I'm pulling from lmao.
i'm pretty sure yes you can definitely pull her, the alternatives are March 7th hunt, Moze and Gallagher if i'm not wrong, Lingsha is also pretty good with her as well if you want to pull her but she runs in second half of next patch (not sure of this but I can see it happening) Bronya is a pretty solid option too if you have her
@@andretanza6230 without enough fua she will stack her ult slow so I would just say pull if you really want her and don’t care about functionality. If you plan on getting more fua characters it’s fine to get her too .. if you aren’t into fua then she won’t perform at her highest potential
Hunt March, and/or Moze for Topaz replacements. Gallagher (if he isn’t on your other team) is a decent sustain for her and sp positive! So can fill Aventurines place if needed (otherwise any sustain works) So she can work without them. But if you’re looking to make some strong teams, I’d only recommend getting her if you’re planing to invest in fua. But hey she’s easy on the eyes maybe that’s enough for you!
I only have e2 bronya so maybe ill just get feixiao on her rerun. Isn't if you run penacony ornament set feixiao kinda benefits on it's 10 dmg up cause her and bronya were same wind type?
Actually nope the most important thing for Feixiao is a good FUA teammate they are even more important then Supports hence why low cost runs use only Robin and 2 sub DPS to 0 cycle him.
Topaz 50% fua vulnerability is much stronger than pela with s5 luka lc or 60%crit dmg buff from march hunt(aslong your feixiao have more than 150%cdm) even more stronger than bronya dmg buff, cuz feixiao have self dmg boost. What better from bronya is she can advance foward feixiao, but still i prefer robin than bronya. Further information that vulnerability are multiply the final dmg taken by enemy, so in result topaz will always win specialy if you paired her with robin , numby will abuse robin concerto buff & numby Will have more action with other fua teammate like aventurine. (Meaning more stack & more dmg for feixiao)
@@doom7607 if you need a Sustain or don’t care about Cost then he’s amazing in this fight because Hoolay has like 500 SPD so he attacks like 10 times a cycle with most of them AoE so he gets off a ton of FUAs. So unless you got the E4+ Broyna and are trying a low cost run then yes then he is definitely better then her, the top 5 character of this fight Besides Feixiao are Robin, March, Moze, Aven and Broyna.
Thanks for the guide. I don't have many spins and I don't know who is better to spin😢. I have a full break pack with Firefly, but no wind dd. Should I spin faceiao e0s1 maybe s1 or is it better to spin lingshu e1s0?
So likely 100k from Harmony buff ( Robin/Bronya ) and clearly her og dmg is around 200k without buff ( with wind weakness ) with her LC ( might be lower than this without it ) .That OK dmg for a hunt with full set
You should *ALWAYS* let Feixiao proc her FUA first before you Ult, to make sure her two dmg buff passive proc, that’s how you maximize her damage potential when compared to her V2 self which requires no timing at all since the damage scaling used to be straight forward in the Ult damage % alone. The usage of FUA before her Ult is especially important if you wear the new Relic set (4pc) that is basically cater made for her. So, even if you have 12 stacks, you would go: Skill > FUA > Ultimate _Wait for another turn so FUA can reproc_ FUA > Ultimate
Could I achieve the same without Adventurine im still hoping they have a rerun soon also i noticed you didn't put bronya signature on is the 4 star lc better for her?
I have to skip feixiao because I need robin for ratio and Clara + I’d also possibly like to pull for either Kafka or dr ratio light cone. Plus I feel like feixiao’s optimal team will be lingsha, hunt march/topaz/moze and bronya/robin which as someone who doesn’t have robin will be way too expensive for me rn + lingsha is in the 2nd phase
I'd have to disagree with lingsha. Imo aventurine is a much better support being more sp positive with more synergies to fua. Lingsha isnt as sp positive, and is more synergistic with superbreak
@@flaria185 that’s true but I believe she will help generate more ult stacks than adventurine especially since the amount of times adventurine attacks is partially affected by how aggressive the enemies are where as lingsha is more consistent in that department. I think it will ultimately depend on the teammates. Hunt march literally uses her skill once (unless you’re doing an insane tech) so she’s super sp positive. Topaz can basic from time to time, so can robin if needed.
@@Joey-nc5cf my problem with lingsha is fuyuan dont exists unless she uses her skill. They are only 90 speed so very slow unless you use skill to advance forward. And they disappear after attacking so you need to use skill. Having 1 sp generator for 2 characters that want to skill almost/every turn doesnt seem viable to me. And if your 4th is robin/bronya who either doesnt generate sp or uses more then its just worse. With aventurine's fua keep in mind that it stacks from ally fua which feixiao, march, topaz, moze will do a lot of. It might end up pretty equal, use aven for aggressive fights like hoolay, and lingsha for debuff heavy fights. But ngl fast gallagher with qpq might just work as well if you run the bronya robin galla core
@@flaria185 I mean yeah because of Gallagher existing and the Gallagher robin bronya core I can’t see lingsha being high value pull anyway as of right now. But yeah I’m sure adventurine and lingsha will become situationally better than each other.
Ok guys, serious question : Speaking of Feixiao, Robin and Aventurine, who is the best for them : Moze, Topaz or March? It seems like i missed the answer to this question if there is one
@@smartfox3836half true, topaz is her best driver due to high proc per turn, tbf you can run hyperspeed topaz with minimum crit investment and its already good to go + sp bonus issue 😈😈
Topaz by a huge mile of course. Like the other guy above me said, her attacks aren’t as fast but she can give free FuA dmg and cdmg. Just slap on speed boost on her, aim for like 134 speed (which should be easy since topaz has 110 base speed)
the wind weak only applies for bronya's E4 ability to trigger: After any other allied character uses Basic ATK on an enemy target that has Wind Weakness, Bronya immediately launches 1 instance of follow-up attack, dealing Wind DMG to this target by an amount equal to 80% of Basic ATK DMG. This effect can only trigger once per turn. the ally doesnt have to be wind type or do toughness damage to activate this, as you can see many times in the video aventurine triggers bronya's e4 multiple times
I still think it's crazy people pulled 5 copies of a non-rate up standard character already. There's really only two types of people who would have an E4 Bronya: 1. Someone with incredible early pull luck but always lose the 50 50 on them 2. A whale/spender fishing for E2 or E6 on every limited I recognize the value of this comparison, but feel like this is going to just age better in a few years than have actual impact to most people now or in the short-term. Cost to benefit wise...E0S1 Robin is typically more realistic and manageable to get than an E4 Bronya. The only balance to this is that Battle Is Not Over is a purchasable LC, but you're still way over costed on trying to pull the same needle from a haystack 5 times. Good stuff though all around.
I mean... I have E4 Himeko and E3 clara, didn't choose either of them, have Bronya E2 even though I chose her from selector. Might sound weird but I still want more himekos to have E6 Himeko lol
Or you know, they're like me with e3s1 bronya, e2s1 clara, e2 himeko but still no gepard or welt. My 50/50 win rate is 66.66% (5 loss out of 19 5 star on rate up, and 5 out of 7 5 stars on standard is chara), when I lose they just end up as those three lmao
I dont understand why we need this comparisons Having e4s1 bronya while being f2p or only monthly card & battle pass is crazy rare Vice versa, whales always have more than e0s0 robin It looks like a sale promotion for robin rather than a comparison lol
short answer: gallagher with s5 quid pro quo is the best for you long answer: i lowkey think that the robin + bronya + quidproquo gallagher is the strongest team core in the game; bronya allows robin to enter ult immediately and gallagher funnelling energy into robin is basically 100% ult uptime. basic->ult->basic with a high speed gallagher is also a lot of actions for robin's damage, so yes gallgher is the best substitute for aventurine. aventurine only does slightly better if the boss attacks a lot of times, triggering his fua more than a standard gallagher combo (e.g., hoolay has a base spd of 264, reaching up to 540 with max moonrage, even without counting attacks from his summoned wolftroopers is a lot of hits per cycle. but if your units are fast enough, which they should be, gallagher performs amazing.
I got Robin and March Hunt, if I were to get Feixiao, who should be the sustainer? The only ones I got are Huohuo, Fu Xuan and Gallagher. But Gallagher is in my firefly team right now
@@ihate.promax1140 i cant really say much since I don't know what else you have on your account, or your level of investment on characters rn but fu xuan is still a great choice. the feixiao + robin combo is already super strong by itself
Is Bronya's E4 follow up not also considered a basic attack? You'd think it would be considered a basic attack so it would benefit from her 100% crit chance with her trace. Otherwise the E4 is a completely useless Eidolon in 99.9% of cases except for gaining a couple more aurelius stacks.
I noticed that too. I just checked and it doesn't exactly say if it's counted as a basic or not. It says, "Bronya immediately launches a follow-up attack on the target, dealing Wind DMG equal to 80% of Bronya's Basic ATK DMG." so with the way it's worded I guess not, which is dumb cause its either useless like you said or your left putting CR on a Bronya which is unnecessary for the rest of her kit, and I doubt they would change that cause they never buff the standard banner characters.
I was legit just asking some homies about this exact thing yesterday. In getting my fei i won my 50/50 to my last eidolon for Bronya. So my bronya is now e6s2. My robin is e0s1. Kindaaaaaa feeling bronya more ngl Only issue is i dont have Aventurine :( Oh. And you didnt show you Marchs stats. Care to share them please?
@@Keifer-- bronya at e6 becomes a powerhouse for fei, as her skill buffs now extend to the next turn and can affect fei’s fua and ults outside her turn if you don’t have aventurine your next best options are lingsha/gallagher oh and march had a 96/144 crit ratio running 4p pioneer + 2p rutilant using cruising in the stellar sea
@@f1shssss oooo true. yeah i realized having that extra turn on bronya skill allows for better Skill point management and length of damage increases. I moved around alot of sets on my account after coming back and i have her at 140 spd on break set with ruan mei arti lol. gives longer dmg boost, gives more break to the team, and is a 100% chance every ult to give a skill point back. scuffed currently as i would like more crit dmg but hey. im making do with what i got lol. best speed set is on gallagher and my sparkle. gallagher it is. ran him with them and got my moc 12 cleared this week :,) mmmmm okieeee. once i finally unlock march hunt (recently came back aafter a long break) ill have to farm up for her and hopefully can get similiar stat lines. ill pray to the crit gods though lolol thanks for the reply and insight! !
@@sryprm the next best thing would be fu xuan for the 12% crit rate and her good sustain. If no fuxuan then it’s just whoever will keep the team alive. They won’t be adding any synergy to feixiao anyways. Adventurine is the only fua sustain so anyone else won’t add to her fua. Fuxuan will give 12 crit rate so it’s better then plane abundance
• Passive: Every ally's attack gives 0.5 Flying Aureus. E2 increases this to 1 for follow-up attacks. if allies performed 2 follow up attacks, then E2 Feixiao gets 2 Flying Aureus not 3 (which would be the case if Passive and E2 can stack)
@@itsukiii3903 Then who can i use to beat hoolay? I hate when hsr does this to f2p players being lucky isn't an excuse for hoyoverse to just let us get the characters we need for fei xiao
I don't have Robin but got a E0 Bronya, is she a good substitute at E0 ? I will not have primo for both FeiXiao and Robin, and asking myself if that would be enough support for her...
He is a beta player, hoyoverse always releases a beta of the next version in all their games, but getting into the beta is quite random and you have to sign a contract with the company
@@TrapConnoisseur. 1st. I didn't mention anything about the damage. 2nd. Since you brought up the topic anyway, lemme see your Huohuo, Fu Xuan or Luocha do 35k
@@Theunluckiest5437 I mean my aventurine deals 45k a pop. And you said fraudlee? Which I think Is referring to seele. Where she deals much more than 35k
Prioritize getting robin first cause Robin boost her dmg so much even she can 0cycle hoolay with 2 cost because of robin, she is amazing but robin is more amazing
that's what I'm thinking. Is there some hidden tech I don't know or is it the worse speedtuned Bornya or all time. You can see from the Action value that Bronya had +1 speed on Feixiao, one substat will make the worlds difference.
So, a small 1 cycle with Robin, could be a 0 cycle with better RNG/stats and tuning. And 2 cycles with E4 Bronya that could in the same way, become a 1 cycle. I'm not Robinless thankfully, but if I had E4 Bronya, I'd definitely try this out because her FUA feels so random, it gets me every time.
5:21 to account for march 7th's shifu speed buff, and bronya's e4 speed boost to maintain feixiao->bronya-> feixiao after 1st bronya skill. 3 feixiao actions still managed to 0 cycle the 1st wave. Feixiao is using atk boots on the bronya march team
yeah I don't see bronya doing so well with feixiao feixiao skill advancing fucks up -1 spd bronya cycles which gives you no reason to use bronya over any buffers (if feixiao doesn't have the advancement then she would prob go really well with bronya with double action strat, fei gimmicks is wanting to attack alot yeah if using a unit that just wastes your sp and doesn't do anything other than advancing the dps a lil bit faster and some crit buffs) she's a singular buffer overalls shouldn't expect her to be good in a non hc teams
If you are fighting against wind weak enemies (which is why you bring feixiao anyways) an E4 Bronya can perform great in place of Robin. This allows you to use Robin in the other team of either memory of chaos or apocalyptic shadow, or if you don’t own her and can’t afford to get her.
Robin propaganda is real, top teammate for Feixiao in terms of strength (from strongest first) is her + e4+ bronya (if wind weak) -> e1s1 topaz -> e6 moze -> e6 march -> bronya. However, you are probably much better of getting robin’s e1 if you don’t own topaz and sticking with moze/march, or even an e0/1/2 bronya.
Pulling priority is as follows (meta wise):
E0 Robin -> E0 Feixiao -> S1 Feixiao -> E1 Robin -> S1 Robin -> E1+ Feixiao
At the end of the day, this is just a video game, so pull for who you like the most.
Is pulling for feixiao’s e1 + e2 and sticking with march better than pulling for e0s1 topaz with e0s1 feixiao?
@acow1348 of course, march 7th and topaz doesn't have that much of a difference, there is already the math out there. Whereas e2 feixiao literally increase her ultimate frequency by alot. And also having 1 strong character will have a higher chance for that character to stay in the meta rather than two mediocre character. Since new character are bound to be powercrept
@@acow1348^
Long term wise I’d put Robin E1 above every Feixiao’s eidolon and LC
S1 Robin over E1 + Feixiao?
5:06 classic turbulence rng.
YEA 💀💀💀
The turbulence r some of the worst designed mechanics in hsr.
I cant belive he lost 50/50 like 8 times
i was so mad when i see that 😭
i'm not even start the video yet clicking this made me laugh so hard 😂😂
I’m glad Bronya works alright with her even if it’s not 0 cycle, as long as I can 3 star clear idc, she deserves some love. I love the idea of those two being on the same team. They give similar vibes with gunblades and being like a position of authority and also being wind… I’m excited for Fei’s release 😁
you and me both, brother
Interesting that finally E4 Bronya has a new niche to play with that followup instead of just being a useless gimmick. I wanna see more of what other high eidolon base 5star is able to do
Definitely agree. I personally don't have Robin, who's Feixiao best teammate but I still have Bronya as a substitute for her in my Fei team.
Aventurine be like :
Unlimited stacks works
Dude, Aventurine is so fucking good for feixiao, wtf
Against Hoolay, yes. That said against not super fast AoE striking bosses (which I believe is majority), Lingsha would give more stacks.
Nope false and lingsha a bit skill point hungry so no@@TheTenzen12
@@zbxbiiin- Lingsha may or might not be more SP hungry, but she would still have more FuA against less attacking enemies. You saying otherwise doesn't change their kit.
I don't have him 😢
@@TheTenzen12 im not trying to change her kit im just saying a break effect healer doesn't do as much as aventurine does to feixiao she does not do more follow ups then Aventurine he is a mile better then lingsha, the amount of times feixiao and moze do follow ups for aventurine is crazy he'll do his follow in no time good shield and a increase crit dmg debuff. Even with less attacking enemies Aventurine is still better. Either you don't have Aventurine or idk
Robin vs bronya ❌
Robin and Bronya ✅🫱🏽🫲🏼📈
harmony + harmony = op
@@f1shssssI don't have Robin. Can i use raun mei instead?
@@2k3d probably another sub dps is better
@@2k3dyeah just run topaz and march/moze or topaz moze if you’re very cope
i was pretty excited when i got my e4 bronya. however i was dissapointed to realize that the follow up attack from bronya doesnt trigger the 30% action advance from her talent :(
sick animation, bad damage :( at least give her a 100% crit rate for that fua
@@kamitik7283 Her fua is mainly for her stack generation.
@@kamitik7283 it doesn't though...
Yeah bronya can't advance herself nor it triggers from her follow up. bronya is mentioned as a partner for robin bc of more passive procs robin can do from bronyas follow ups but thats it. idk if thats enough to make bronya more then a buffer. Id probably run yunli with fei instead. Maybe bronyas buff will outdo her but on paper it looks stronger to have her just counter instead
I honestly want to see someone tru to use Jade E1 as Feixiao Sub-DPS.
Why? Because some enemy tend to have mobs spawning left right like the deer or phantylia..
Since every hit from Feixiao, including her fua, counts as 3 stacks each.. Jade could help clear the mobs and add extra stack to feixiao, while fei focus on the main boss..
Sure it will be awful compared to the likes of Moze, March, Topaz.. Tho i just want to see..
I wanna see that too 🙌
pretty sure it because you need 2 hunt hence not using jade
@@definiteIynotkenji feixiao isnt acheron. She's not restricted to having a specific path unit with her😂
March hunt, moze, and topaz are all used with her because they attack frequently with follow up to generate stacks, and they buff feixiao's damage (march hunt gives plenty of buffs, moze and topaz debuffs enemies). They all just happened to be hunt charas
@@definiteIynotkenji yeah she ain’t Acheron 😂
someone's actually done this already, albeit against aventurine: th-cam.com/video/x8PkuOX6HcE/w-d-xo.html
I am more impressed with Hoolay than the new chars like wtf is that boss, he is so god damn tanky and hits a lot of times within a cycle. I don’t even have aventurine tp survive this shit on release
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I didn't even know that march 7 hunt is this good.
Have you or can you do a march vs moze comparison? I thought moze would be better but people told me apparently march is better? I dont have topaz and dont think i ever will pull for her
Could you do a video on Feixiao/Robin/E4 Bronya/QPQ Gallagher? I don't have Aventurine so I'm interested to see if I can make this team work
yes, me too
i think you will need another fua unit caz gal doesn't have follow ups
sad truth of us aventurine lackers
@@ariyanbanik9234march preservation works???
@@sector1minos1 it would but march preservation isnt preserving shit... while only giving 1/4th of aventurines output if you get lucky
u are better off using gal [f2p] fu xuan [ 12% crit rate boost ] or hou hou
as a day 1 player who has e4s1 bronya and e0s0 aventurine/robin planning to pull e0s1 feixiao I am going to pretend I somehow caused this video to happen targeting the very specific set of circumstances I'm pulling from lmao.
I dont have topaz and Adventurin, is it okay to pull for her?
@@andretanza6230 she will be clunky stacking slow but if you want her do it .
She moze in her banner so it's still good
i'm pretty sure yes you can definitely pull her, the alternatives are March 7th hunt, Moze and Gallagher if i'm not wrong, Lingsha is also pretty good with her as well if you want to pull her but she runs in second half of next patch (not sure of this but I can see it happening) Bronya is a pretty solid option too if you have her
@@andretanza6230 without enough fua she will stack her ult slow so I would just say pull if you really want her and don’t care about functionality. If you plan on getting more fua characters it’s fine to get her too .. if you aren’t into fua then she won’t perform at her highest potential
Hunt March, and/or Moze for Topaz replacements. Gallagher (if he isn’t on your other team) is a decent sustain for her and sp positive! So can fill Aventurines place if needed (otherwise any sustain works)
So she can work without them. But if you’re looking to make some strong teams, I’d only recommend getting her if you’re planing to invest in fua. But hey she’s easy on the eyes maybe that’s enough for you!
Thank uuu
Okay but what about E0 Bronya (I don't have her)
Watching to see which one is better for Fei and the answer was Aventurine...
God I hope they will rerun him soon
I only have e2 bronya so maybe ill just get feixiao on her rerun. Isn't if you run penacony ornament set feixiao kinda benefits on it's 10 dmg up cause her and bronya were same wind type?
Mine is E1
penacony buff and bronya skill buffing are the same (just different amount), what Feixiao lacks of is %atk, because of how low her base atk is.
What if I change Aventurine (thanks to Yanqing the useless one) to Fu Xuan?
What about running solo bronya with ddd
Shouldn't the comparison instead be Topaz vs E4S1 Bronya? The second DPS contributes less than Robin for FeiX so it doesn't make sense to not use her.
Actually nope the most important thing for Feixiao is a good FUA teammate they are even more important then Supports hence why low cost runs use only Robin and 2 sub DPS to 0 cycle him.
@@The_CodFish69it would be aventurine getting swapped for bronya then right?
Topaz 50% fua vulnerability is much stronger than pela with s5 luka lc or 60%crit dmg buff from march hunt(aslong your feixiao have more than 150%cdm) even more stronger than bronya dmg buff, cuz feixiao have self dmg boost.
What better from bronya is she can advance foward feixiao, but still i prefer robin than bronya.
Further information that vulnerability are multiply the final dmg taken by enemy,
so in result topaz will always win specialy if you paired her with robin , numby will abuse robin concerto buff & numby Will have more action with other fua teammate like aventurine.
(Meaning more stack & more dmg for feixiao)
@@doom7607 if you need a Sustain or don’t care about Cost then he’s amazing in this fight because Hoolay has like 500
SPD so he attacks like 10 times a cycle with most of them AoE so he gets off a ton of FUAs.
So unless you got the E4+ Broyna and are trying a low cost run then yes then he is definitely better then her, the top 5 character of this fight Besides Feixiao are Robin, March, Moze, Aven and Broyna.
@@doom7607 Aventurine does a lot for Feixao tho
I really want to see yunli with feixiao
cant believe i wasnt even gonna pull for adventurine....what a fool i would have been XD
Thanks for the guide. I don't have many spins and I don't know who is better to spin😢. I have a full break pack with Firefly, but no wind dd. Should I spin faceiao e0s1 maybe s1 or is it better to spin lingshu e1s0?
So likely 100k from Harmony buff ( Robin/Bronya ) and clearly her og dmg is around 200k without buff ( with wind weakness ) with her LC ( might be lower than this without it ) .That OK dmg for a hunt with full set
You should *ALWAYS* let Feixiao proc her FUA first before you Ult, to make sure her two dmg buff passive proc, that’s how you maximize her damage potential when compared to her V2 self which requires no timing at all since the damage scaling used to be straight forward in the Ult damage % alone. The usage of FUA before her Ult is especially important if you wear the new Relic set (4pc) that is basically cater made for her.
So, even if you have 12 stacks, you would go:
Skill > FUA > Ultimate
_Wait for another turn so FUA can reproc_
FUA > Ultimate
I will use fei, robin march/moze/bronya e1 which is better? And Gallagher will pull aven re-run
Moze E2
Me trying to understand why bro didn’t skull into ult to make use of the Eagle advance while keeping Bronya buff
because i was one of the big fat noobs LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Could I achieve the same without Adventurine im still hoping they have a rerun soon also i noticed you didn't put bronya signature on is the 4 star lc better for her?
Assuming we will get more March Eidolons, If I don't have topaz who do you think is better for Feixao?
Moze E6 or March7Hunt E6?
Would ratio work with her I get that he might not get a consant 3 debuffs but would it still be viable
does V5 feixiao ult can do max 6 stack attack for each ult activation? no longer 12 stack at most ?
Yes
now wait until E6 Bronya 😏
Can someone explain what the purple bar after break does?
Is this e0 Fei? I can't keep up with her changes but I see that her fua has got a lot more constant
Her skill got changed, now it will automatically launch free fua immediately after she use her skill
yup, e0 fei
any credits to prywden, or were this images stolen
I have to skip feixiao because I need robin for ratio and Clara + I’d also possibly like to pull for either Kafka or dr ratio light cone. Plus I feel like feixiao’s optimal team will be lingsha, hunt march/topaz/moze and bronya/robin which as someone who doesn’t have robin will be way too expensive for me rn + lingsha is in the 2nd phase
I'd have to disagree with lingsha. Imo aventurine is a much better support being more sp positive with more synergies to fua. Lingsha isnt as sp positive, and is more synergistic with superbreak
@@flaria185 that’s true but I believe she will help generate more ult stacks than adventurine especially since the amount of times adventurine attacks is partially affected by how aggressive the enemies are where as lingsha is more consistent in that department. I think it will ultimately depend on the teammates. Hunt march literally uses her skill once (unless you’re doing an insane tech) so she’s super sp positive. Topaz can basic from time to time, so can robin if needed.
@@Joey-nc5cf my problem with lingsha is fuyuan dont exists unless she uses her skill. They are only 90 speed so very slow unless you use skill to advance forward. And they disappear after attacking so you need to use skill. Having 1 sp generator for 2 characters that want to skill almost/every turn doesnt seem viable to me. And if your 4th is robin/bronya who either doesnt generate sp or uses more then its just worse. With aventurine's fua keep in mind that it stacks from ally fua which feixiao, march, topaz, moze will do a lot of. It might end up pretty equal, use aven for aggressive fights like hoolay, and lingsha for debuff heavy fights.
But ngl fast gallagher with qpq might just work as well if you run the bronya robin galla core
@@flaria185 I mean yeah because of Gallagher existing and the Gallagher robin bronya core I can’t see lingsha being high value pull anyway as of right now. But yeah I’m sure adventurine and lingsha will become situationally better than each other.
Ok guys, serious question : Speaking of Feixiao, Robin and Aventurine, who is the best for them : Moze, Topaz or March? It seems like i missed the answer to this question if there is one
Topaz, her ataks isn't as fast as others but buff she gives is way to big
@@smartfox3836half true, topaz is her best driver due to high proc per turn, tbf you can run hyperspeed topaz with minimum crit investment and its already good to go + sp bonus issue 😈😈
Topaz by a huge mile of course. Like the other guy above me said, her attacks aren’t as fast but she can give free FuA dmg and cdmg. Just slap on speed boost on her, aim for like 134 speed (which should be easy since topaz has 110 base speed)
Topaz is the best but moze is pretty close
@@fsemra4575pretty sure March beats Moze at higher Feixiao investment. Stuff like her S1 should allow March to beat Moze iirc.
Where is the music at the beginning of the video playing in the game? I forgot
If you know the name too I would appreciate it if you said it
yoo i forgot to link it; its name is "nobility of time" and it plays in the 'Scorchsand Audition Venue'
So they gotta be wind weak, and ur ally has to be wind type and do toughness damage to wind enemy.
the wind weak only applies for bronya's E4 ability to trigger: After any other allied character uses Basic ATK on an enemy target that has Wind Weakness, Bronya immediately launches 1 instance of follow-up attack, dealing Wind DMG to this target by an amount equal to 80% of Basic ATK DMG. This effect can only trigger once per turn.
the ally doesnt have to be wind type or do toughness damage to activate this, as you can see many times in the video aventurine triggers bronya's e4 multiple times
This vid ll give a lot of Robin Skippers again
Does everyone have e4 bronya, or is it just me??? 😭
@@berny8463 i have E5 Bronya
Bro thinks everyone has e4 bronya 🤦🏿♂️
@@berny8463 I have E1 Bronya, I wish she was E4.
@@berny8463I have E69 Bronya
Im assuming E0 Bronya also works just has less stacks due to no FUA?
I have E5S1 bronya, do I pull for robin first, or feixiao first?
I still think it's crazy people pulled 5 copies of a non-rate up standard character already.
There's really only two types of people who would have an E4 Bronya:
1. Someone with incredible early pull luck but always lose the 50 50 on them
2. A whale/spender fishing for E2 or E6 on every limited
I recognize the value of this comparison, but feel like this is going to just age better in a few years than have actual impact to most people now or in the short-term.
Cost to benefit wise...E0S1 Robin is typically more realistic and manageable to get than an E4 Bronya. The only balance to this is that Battle Is Not Over is a purchasable LC, but you're still way over costed on trying to pull the same needle from a haystack 5 times.
Good stuff though all around.
I mean... I have E4 Himeko and E3 clara, didn't choose either of them, have Bronya E2 even though I chose her from selector. Might sound weird but I still want more himekos to have E6 Himeko lol
I'm the first example lmao,i have an E6 bronya and she's still my only standard unit with welt
i lost every 50/50 except one to Bronya so i have her on E4 and i dont even have clara (im f2p)
My Bronya is E3S1 so this is quite topical for me 😂
I've gotten 12 monthly passes, so not fully F2P (Just missing Gepard)
Or you know, they're like me with e3s1 bronya, e2s1 clara, e2 himeko but still no gepard or welt. My 50/50 win rate is 66.66% (5 loss out of 19 5 star on rate up, and 5 out of 7 5 stars on standard is chara), when I lose they just end up as those three lmao
Wanna see slow bronya e4 with feixiao. I think it will be more powerful.
The stacks still save if the enemies have 0 hp after the 6th stack and onward?
How about sparkle for fei xiao?
I feel like sparkle and atk boots on Feixiao might be as good
So E4 bronya + Robin + Aventurine is her BiS when against Wind weak enemies? finally my e4 bronya is getting some use lmao
How about Sparkle? or Bronya better anyway cuz FUA team doesn't need that much cost?
cuz I don't wanna pull Sparkle and skip for Feixiao
I dont understand why we need this comparisons
Having e4s1 bronya while being f2p or only monthly card & battle pass is crazy rare
Vice versa, whales always have more than e0s0 robin
It looks like a sale promotion for robin rather than a comparison lol
Nah man I've bought pass like twice and I have E3 Bronya :(
played since robin banner. E1 bronya already (planning getting her E2 on free selector)
It’s not that rare LOL
I have E4 bronya and E0S1 robin but i dont have aventurine, do u think galla or even lingsha can substitute him?
short answer: gallagher with s5 quid pro quo is the best for you
long answer: i lowkey think that the robin + bronya + quidproquo gallagher is the strongest team core in the game; bronya allows robin to enter ult immediately and gallagher funnelling energy into robin is basically 100% ult uptime. basic->ult->basic with a high speed gallagher is also a lot of actions for robin's damage, so yes gallgher is the best substitute for aventurine.
aventurine only does slightly better if the boss attacks a lot of times, triggering his fua more than a standard gallagher combo (e.g., hoolay has a base spd of 264, reaching up to 540 with max moonrage, even without counting attacks from his summoned wolftroopers is a lot of hits per cycle. but if your units are fast enough, which they should be, gallagher performs amazing.
bro, just throw feixao/moze or march 7th/bronya/robin and let shit go, you can't lose hp if your enemies is ded
March 7th preservation also works, but will be more spotty sustain vs blast/aoe
@@f1shsssswhat speed does Gallagher need to be at?
All fun and games till robin E4S1 pops out
why bronya and not HYPPPPPPER sparkle?
Cuz E4 Bronya has a Follow Up Attack which helps build stacks
Is sparkle a good support for her?
I got Robin and March Hunt, if I were to get Feixiao, who should be the sustainer? The only ones I got are Huohuo, Fu Xuan and Gallagher. But Gallagher is in my firefly team right now
fu xuan for the crit rate, since both feixiao and march really dont wanna miss crits
@@f1shssss you think that would make a pretty good team or just ok? Cuz if so I could just save for some other dps
@@ihate.promax1140 i cant really say much since I don't know what else you have on your account, or your level of investment on characters rn but fu xuan is still a great choice. the feixiao + robin combo is already super strong by itself
@@f1shssss well if you have a discord I could probably show. I have many supports but I’m lacking real hard in dpses only having firefly and Boothill
what about sparkle
Sorry for this question. I understand that E stand for eilodon but what about S stand for?
@@dualapantiga superimposition, the refinement level of the lightcone (weapon)
Is Bronya's E4 follow up not also considered a basic attack? You'd think it would be considered a basic attack so it would benefit from her 100% crit chance with her trace. Otherwise the E4 is a completely useless Eidolon in 99.9% of cases except for gaining a couple more aurelius stacks.
I noticed that too. I just checked and it doesn't exactly say if it's counted as a basic or not. It says, "Bronya immediately launches a follow-up attack on the target, dealing Wind DMG equal to 80% of Bronya's Basic ATK DMG." so with the way it's worded I guess not, which is dumb cause its either useless like you said or your left putting CR on a Bronya which is unnecessary for the rest of her kit, and I doubt they would change that cause they never buff the standard banner characters.
The E4 is more of an energy battery eidolon for her, bc it helps in her rotations.
@@tieAcherry101 yeah, you can guarantee a 2-turn ultimate if you have s4+ of her signature with her e4. proof that bronya ages like fine wine
I was legit just asking some homies about this exact thing yesterday.
In getting my fei i won my 50/50 to my last eidolon for Bronya. So my bronya is now e6s2. My robin is e0s1. Kindaaaaaa feeling bronya more ngl
Only issue is i dont have Aventurine :(
Oh. And you didnt show you Marchs stats. Care to share them please?
@@Keifer-- bronya at e6 becomes a powerhouse for fei, as her skill buffs now extend to the next turn and can affect fei’s fua and ults outside her turn
if you don’t have aventurine your next best options are lingsha/gallagher
oh and march had a 96/144 crit ratio running 4p pioneer + 2p rutilant using cruising in the stellar sea
@@f1shssss oooo true. yeah i realized having that extra turn on bronya skill allows for better Skill point management and length of damage increases. I moved around alot of sets on my account after coming back and i have her at 140 spd on break set with ruan mei arti lol. gives longer dmg boost, gives more break to the team, and is a 100% chance every ult to give a skill point back. scuffed currently as i would like more crit dmg but hey. im making do with what i got lol. best speed set is on gallagher and my sparkle.
gallagher it is. ran him with them and got my moc 12 cleared this week :,)
mmmmm okieeee. once i finally unlock march hunt (recently came back aafter a long break) ill have to farm up for her and hopefully can get similiar stat lines. ill pray to the crit gods though lolol
thanks for the reply and insight! !
and still aventurine is MVP on feixiao team 😂
is her performance will drop far if you use E0 bronya?
Yes. This is for e4 bronya users. If you don’t have e4 bronya your better off bringing a topaz or moze or even march hunt .
@@lanij.k9932 who can replace adventurine ? i dont have him
@@sryprm the next best thing would be fu xuan for the 12% crit rate and her good sustain. If no fuxuan then it’s just whoever will keep the team alive. They won’t be adding any synergy to feixiao anyways. Adventurine is the only fua sustain so anyone else won’t add to her fua. Fuxuan will give 12 crit rate so it’s better then plane abundance
@@lanij.k9932wrong it’s Gallagher
@@sryprmGallagher
So your saying if i have both bronya and robin....
Does e2 feixiao worth to pull? How much faster for stacking than e0?
• Passive: Every ally's attack gives 0.5 Flying Aureus. E2 increases this to 1 for follow-up attacks.
if allies performed 2 follow up attacks, then E2 Feixiao gets 2 Flying Aureus not 3 (which would be the case if Passive and E2 can stack)
Not really, you cannot stack feixio E2 with her talent
Her LC is more worth to pull
@@zengaoyou can, effects that denote ally includes the character unless it specifically states otherwise.
@@td984 well I just see it from V5 leak and it said you cannot stack it
Who can i replace adventurine with feixiao? Fu xuan?
Ye but not with hoolay 💀
@@itsukiii3903 Then who can i use to beat hoolay? I hate when hsr does this to f2p players being lucky isn't an excuse for hoyoverse to just let us get the characters we need for fei xiao
I don't have Robin but got a E0 Bronya, is she a good substitute at E0 ?
I will not have primo for both FeiXiao and Robin, and asking myself if that would be enough support for her...
i think Ruan mei and Sparkle better than bronya E0
Why not both?
Just a joke😅
Bolt of you to assume we all have E4 bronya.😢
Is this beta ver 5 ?
bronya had too many spd, she wasn't giving 2x turns at all
How can you use fei Xiao when she is not even released
He is a beta player, hoyoverse always releases a beta of the next version in all their games, but getting into the beta is quite random and you have to sign a contract with the company
Will fu xuan survive this big wolf?
if your units are fast enough to outspeed him and kill him before he deletes your team, yes
3:09 Aventurine casually critting more than Fraudlee can ever dream of
I mean... It's just 35 k really
@@TrapConnoisseur.
1st. I didn't mention anything about the damage.
2nd. Since you brought up the topic anyway, lemme see your Huohuo, Fu Xuan or Luocha do 35k
@@Theunluckiest5437 I mean my aventurine deals 45k a pop. And you said fraudlee? Which I think Is referring to seele. Where she deals much more than 35k
Dude how do you even play with 999ms
Ngl, march looks more impressive to me lol
I hav e4 bronya but no sig i dont hav topaz and.robin,you think its.ok to pull e0s1 feixiao?
You can always get her Signature on the shop
Planetary randezvous is better with feixiao than sig, sig is a 30% 1 turn, planetary s5 boosts 24% unconditionally at all times
Prioritize getting robin first cause Robin boost her dmg so much even she can 0cycle hoolay with 2 cost because of robin, she is amazing but robin is more amazing
Robin > Feixiao S1
erm what the skibidi you should be studying physcis sigma
Are you okay?
@@sumezune4114oh just Silver Wolf spreads brainrot
Why bronya's speed is not -1 feixiao?
that's what I'm thinking. Is there some hidden tech I don't know or is it the worse speedtuned Bornya or all time. You can see from the Action value that Bronya had +1 speed on Feixiao, one substat will make the worlds difference.
something to do with feixiao being on the wind set
@@ballistic2527Make sense
Feixiao needs a buff fr I wanna pull them but they arent like in the first day
omgyash
1 атака пол стака заполняет. Че за бред? Я то думаю, что стаки не копятся когда кто-то бьет
is 4pc wind better than the new set?
Is E4S0 Bronya still work fine in Feixiao-Aven-M7th team? I don't have Bron's LC sadly:'D
You'll get a few less skillpoints and less energy on bronya
still works great, you can use either 'planetary rendezvous' or the new 'poised to bloom ' lc on bronya if you have high superimpositions of either
@@f1shssss Tks a lot^^
Why is ur ping at 999+...
So, a small 1 cycle with Robin, could be a 0 cycle with better RNG/stats and tuning. And 2 cycles with E4 Bronya that could in the same way, become a 1 cycle. I'm not Robinless thankfully, but if I had E4 Bronya, I'd definitely try this out because her FUA feels so random, it gets me every time.
Why not slowya??????
5:21 to account for march 7th's shifu speed buff, and bronya's e4 speed boost to maintain feixiao->bronya-> feixiao after 1st bronya skill. 3 feixiao actions still managed to 0 cycle the 1st wave. Feixiao is using atk boots on the bronya march team
yeah I don't see bronya doing so well with feixiao
feixiao skill advancing fucks up -1 spd bronya cycles which gives you no reason to use bronya over any buffers (if feixiao doesn't have the advancement then she would prob go really well with bronya with double action strat, fei gimmicks is wanting to attack alot yeah
if using a unit that just wastes your sp and doesn't do anything other than advancing the dps a lil bit faster and some crit buffs)
she's a singular buffer overalls
shouldn't expect her to be good in a non hc teams
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Aventurin is the real support for feixiao
whaled bronya😂👉
ugh these feixiao gameplays are making me wanna spend my Sunday and robin spendings on her 😭
sacrifice all mortal possessions to feixiao 😭😭😭😭
you will get them all don't worry (i cope like this too)
She isn't a very spectacular character, looks boring to play