This is a real problem. I was involved just like this brother in a clandestine lodge. Did the research and left last year and got raised PHA in May. Nothing like being recognized EVERYWHERE. It’s quite embarrassing showing up somewhere and the record scratches when you say you from Mw St. Joseph GL
@OldFashionMasonicPodcast The legend is that Emily Morgan was the mixed-race servant of a man named Morgan who was the namesake of Morgan's Point on Galveston Bay not too far from the San Jacinto battlefield. The legend continues that Emily was a beautiful woman who caught Santa Anna's eye on April 21, 1836 (the date of the Battle of San Jacinto, the battle in which the Texians under RW General Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans under Santa Anna). Before the battle, it is said Emily Morgan "entertained" Santa Anna in his tent before the battle. When the Texians attacked, she made her escape. 18 minutes later, the Mexican Army there was all killed, wounded, or captured. Santa Anna was captured the next day while wearing the uniform of a private. "Yellow" being an old term for a person of mixed African and European ancestry, it is said she was the "Yellow Rose of Texas". None of this story is in written history, but due to Santa Anna's well-known penchant for womanizing, and the fact of the day didn't record such things, it is a plausible story.
Help me to balance the understanding. I say respectfully with the bad leadership problems going on PHA why should I go there? Is horrible leadership justified over clandestine?
So PHA is not a National Body, so let's start there. Every Grand Lodge is sovereign so what's going on with 1 isn't a reflection on all. I'm in NY and we don't have those problems.
@TheWzeOwl same as above, there are so many questions here. Why the call out of the GM of Las Vegas? Are these GM of what we may refer to as unrecognized or clandestine lodges? We love to absorb information here.
It has not been proven. If it was they wouldn't be considered clandestine and would be considered regular. PHO has yet to provide the missing minutes from 1880-1889 that proves they disbanded. Newspaper articles were never veproocanand can't be considered as a legitimate source until they are fully verified.
@@OldFashionMasonicPodcast It may seem a bit trivial but it's a major point of contention for many of us. I enjoyed your video and admire your channel. Fraternal greetings
@SpiritOfJustice that has not been proven. The National Compact has never submitted proceedings for 1880-1889 and the news paper articles used to claim that it didn't were never verified. It did shut down.
Man I had a blast recording this episode with you my good brother.
@dizlwizl can't wait to have you back on for other topics. It was like talking with someone I've known for years.
I really enjoyed this because I was in that same place ❤ with clandestine Free Masonary!
No EAST TEXAS is called The Piny woods for shorts!❤
@@CourtneyDuffie Tylerites claim that yellow rose fam lol
@@dizlwizl lol 😂 But that's were I had the best time! In my life 📚 Brother
This is a real problem. I was involved just like this brother in a clandestine lodge. Did the research and left last year and got raised PHA in May. Nothing like being recognized EVERYWHERE. It’s quite embarrassing showing up somewhere and the record scratches when you say you from Mw St. Joseph GL
Hate that for you, but glad you found a home. Thanks for sharing your story.
Wow amazing it’s everywhere
Very dope episode !
Sounds like international modern masons but I've been asked to get healed over to pha so I'm gonna go that route.
Outstanding episode.
Fun Texas History fact: The Yellow Rose of Texas, wasn’t a flower. 😉
@@Porkswordactual tell us more 😯
@OldFashionMasonicPodcast The legend is that Emily Morgan was the mixed-race servant of a man named Morgan who was the namesake of Morgan's Point on Galveston Bay not too far from the San Jacinto battlefield. The legend continues that Emily was a beautiful woman who caught Santa Anna's eye on April 21, 1836 (the date of the Battle of San Jacinto, the battle in which the Texians under RW General Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans under Santa Anna).
Before the battle, it is said Emily Morgan "entertained" Santa Anna in his tent before the battle. When the Texians attacked, she made her escape. 18 minutes later, the Mexican Army there was all killed, wounded, or captured. Santa Anna was captured the next day while wearing the uniform of a private.
"Yellow" being an old term for a person of mixed African and European ancestry, it is said she was the "Yellow Rose of Texas".
None of this story is in written history, but due to Santa Anna's well-known penchant for womanizing, and the fact of the day didn't record such things, it is a plausible story.
@@JPD1966 thanks for sharing. Have never heard that story.
@OldFashionMasonicPodcast you're welcome. I like putting my BA in History to work!
great talk brothers.
Appreciate the support
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How is the "we" you refer to?
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This happened to me! Our stories are very similar.
@JonnyiLL I bet there are hundreds of these. The more we talk about it and SHARE videos like this, the more we clean up the nonsense.
Help me to balance the understanding. I say respectfully with the bad leadership problems going on PHA why should I go there? Is horrible leadership justified over clandestine?
@@Steevthe1 what state are you in and what bad leadership problems are you referencing?
@@Steevthe1 sounds like a new podcast episode! Would love to hear more.
So PHA is not a National Body, so let's start there. Every Grand Lodge is sovereign so what's going on with 1 isn't a reflection on all. I'm in NY and we don't have those problems.
If you're not pleased with PHA, then petition AF&AM. But definitely avoid bogus organizations
@@dizlwizl I’m from Tx no mentorship. You can expect an EA to answer a question to something that he hasn’t been given any light Learn from.
Worshipful Grandmaster Diamond Las Vegas You Have The Foor.
@TheWzeOwl same as above, there are so many questions here. Why the call out of the GM of Las Vegas? Are these GM of what we may refer to as unrecognized or clandestine lodges? We love to absorb information here.
That's crazy expensive
Their Will Be A Knock At Your Door.
@@TheWzeOwl who do you believe might get that knock?
It's been proven the National Compact never disbanded
Was that your take away from this episode? Two totally different topics.
It has not been proven. If it was they wouldn't be considered clandestine and would be considered regular. PHO has yet to provide the missing minutes from 1880-1889 that proves they disbanded. Newspaper articles were never veproocanand can't be considered as a legitimate source until they are fully verified.
@@OldFashionMasonicPodcast well that was a point that was mentioned
@@OldFashionMasonicPodcast It may seem a bit trivial but it's a major point of contention for many of us. I enjoyed your video and admire your channel. Fraternal greetings
@SpiritOfJustice that has not been proven. The National Compact has never submitted proceedings for 1880-1889 and the news paper articles used to claim that it didn't were never verified. It did shut down.
AEA!!!
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Are masons also called goat riders
@@MonroeGivens yes, but with no real basis in recognized freemasonry
So how would you know if it is a real lodge to join or not?
@@justinw8512 check with the Grand Lodge of Texas and/or the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Texas. They will get you on the right path.
@@justinw8512 what state are you in
@@justinw8512 Google: Commission on Bogus Masonry. We keep a list on that website.
@@justinw8512 Google: Commission on Bogus Masonry. They have a list of Masonic organizations that aren't regular.
Worshipful Grandmaster NYC You Have The Floor.
@@TheWzeOwl there are so many questions here. Why the call out of the GM of NYC? We love to absorb information here.
More Will Be Revealed In Time Worshipful Grandmaster Grand Lodge Pennsylvania You Have The Floor Call Sign Anubis 33 Degree Soloman Freemason.
What might be revealed?
Thrice Potent Master. Great title.
Great episode beginning of a major push in right direction 🫡