"Anakin Skywalker....he was my master. He was powerful, rarely lost a battle. What would have surprised people is how kind he was. He cared deeply about his friends and looked out for them until the end."
This is true for Vader... from a certain point of view. Vader was powerful, rarely lost a battle. He was kind (at least more forgiving than the Emperor) and he cared deeply about his Jedi friends and never gave up searching for them.
@@reality8470 No. Lanter doesn't count. He doesn't sound cold or conflicted enough. Anakin also needs to sound somewhat monotonous. That's how you know that he's an unstable person trying to keep his cool. We didn't get that from Lanter's performance. Frankly I don't understand why Filoni kept James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan but not Mat Lucas (who sounds almost identical to Christensen) as Anakin.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Agree to disagree on that. Mat Lucas does sound more like Hayden, but I don’t feel like he portrays emotions as well as Hayden or Matt Lanter. I couldn’t really imagine him in The Clone Wars (2008). Just my opinion though, he still did great in the 2003 Clone Wars.
So Yoda did force projection before Luke. It just confirms how impossible it would be to do such a power without dying from it, because he never does it outside the Jedi temple. I know they’re built on powerful force nexuses or something like that, so that might be the only thing giving him strength to do it without dying/
@@c.a.honeycutt5046 That and maybe how many times he did it with Ezra and Kanan twice and Ashoka once might have accelerated his physical body exhaustion overtime that may or may not have contributed to his death few years later.
At first I thought it was Ezra's interpretation of Yoda since he never saw him....but once Asoka saw the same version I realized it was by design. I think it was an unnecessary change.
This episode is just one of the best. We had : The battle right into with the inquisitors, Ahsoka’s holocron showing us Anakin along with the backstory of what happened at the end of the Clone Wars, heading to the Jedi Temple. Everyone going there way: Kanan to his Jedi Knight trial, Ezra to talk with Yoda, Ahsoka’s vision about Anakin’s turn. Along with that with the Inquisitors arriving at the Jedi Temple and discovering the truth about it. They open the temple , causing it to start crumbling at first, while the other 3 find there way together. Ahsoka sees Yoda on her way out. The inquisitors enter the temple, face the Temple Guards (thru a Force Vision), the 3 talk about Malachor, and finally Vader arrives at the Jedi Temple, ending the episode with his Breath.
the part where Ahsoka looks back at Yoda and he waves is very reminiscent of The Last Crusade where Indiana Jones looks back at the knight as the temple colapses
Dang it. I am such a damn nerd, crying for such simple symbolism. Such a good freakin episode and show. Also, it is funny to see Aaron and Eric dance around what the area is like where Ezra is... I was waiting for one of them to say "Its like a world between Worlds". I saw that look Eric! 27:56
Being temple guard was a voluntary decision, the grand inquisitor choose to be one because he was disappointed with the order for their secretism and for forbidding exploring more of the ways of the force, then with ahsoka's detention and after seeing the corruption of the council he bacame more and more frustrated and started to fall in the dark side, probably around that time he was contacted by Sidious. Also when Anakin and the 501 attacked the temple he was responsible for the death of all the temple guards
@@deltaalex8253 you're welcome! Also note that all of this is barely canon, they're just things that have been said by the writers, but everything is subject to change if they want to expand his backstory by going in another direction. I recommend the Vader: Dark lord of the sith comics if you want to learn a little more about the grand inquisitor beginnings
I'd like to see how the Jedi would pass off one of the aliens like Kit Fisto or Aayla Secura squeezing into one of those Temple Guard outfits & have them keep their identity secret :P
The Temple guards did usually have their hoods up, to be fair, so MAYBE you could hide the head-tails under there, somehow. No idea how you hide, like, Oppo Rancisis and his giant snake tail, tho.
@@Wolf6119 has secret tunnels in Jedi temple and when someone breaks in it becomes a horror movie. You hear something slithering through the walls alongside you
@@erikjohnson3859 That's because those for those few particular individuals, their species alone is a unique characteristic identifier within the Jedi. There isn't a way to have a uniform mask that for a role like the Temple Guard until there are other members of their species present as Jedi to make masking their identity possible. It's not about the limitations of the design of the uniform at all. It's about how you create that type of obscurity with a uniform. If you had single Wookiee & Jawa Jedi, their height alone would identify them as a Temple Guard even though they could hide everything else easily with those same humanoid uniforms. That's why uniforms are only able to obscure identity within a group that already shares those individuals' general characteristics - because it only masks identity.
"Ahsoka....why did you leave?" "Where were you when I needed you?" "I made a choice, I couldn't stay." "You were selfish." "No!" "You abandoned me! You failed me! Do you know what I've become?" "No. NOOOO!"
One of the single best episodes in not just Star Wars animation but in all of Star Wars PERIOD. I actually shed a tears in this episode. When we actually SEE Yoda talking to Ezra and then see him wave to Ahsoka. When we see Kanan being knighted and become a true Jedi Knight And especially when Ahsoka talks with Anakin and finally realizes that her master, her hero, the person she loved and trusted more than anyone in the galaxy has become Darth Vader, then breaks down in tears.😭😭😭😭 Damnit Dave Filoni, you pull at my heartstrings more than any Pixar movie ever has.
This is just me, but I like the idea that just for brief moments, the Force bring together a dead Force User’s awareness, or at the very least an image of them, just for a little bit to relay information. Also, these are the episodes where we really see Ahsoka’s guilt for her leaving Anakin behind, realizing that he is Vader and how she contributed to it.
To your first point: between Yoda's line in ROTS to Anakin and Yoda's quest in season 6 of CW, we know the Force, and the priestesses are somewhat sentient. Palpatine himself was a great threat to the balance of the Force
Rick on yoda- “That’s one of the worst thing I’ve ever seen. I don’t understand”. Lol that made me laugh because I don’t think I’ve met any fans that would disagree 😂
when this show first started, I wrote a long post about Ezra's connection to animals, and where I called him "beastmaster", years later people are still calling him that and I love it
Malachor...another attempt from Dave Filoni to bring pieces of the KOTOR universe in the canon one ! Someday we will have a serie about it...it can't be discarded ! There is to much good thing in it !!
I mean I don't LOVE Yoda's look here, but I honestly dislike Anakin way more. Obi-Wan looks great in his holocron, and Yoda looks... fine, I guess (He looks like a pretty accurate animated version of the Episode 5 puppet, to me), but Anakin just looks like a Ken doll, no resemblance to the Clone Wars version OR Hayden whatsoever.
I would argue about Vader and the Stormtroopers design in Rebels, cause seeing their designs from the last episode of Clone Wars makes me prefer the Clone Wars designs more than their designs in Rebels. At least C-3PO and R2-D2's designs in Rebels look exactly to how they look in the films.
Ahsoka listening and watching Anakin is similar to when you lose a loved one, and you watch something with them in it or listen to an old voice mail just to hear or see them again in some capacity.
The twinge of the score just after the vision of Vader vanished matches the score from the end of the series finale of clone wars and the foresight it took to plan that is blowing my mind
It is literally Ahsoka's leitmotif. It is plastered all over the TCW movie, Seasons 3, 5 and 7. Rebels and Mandalorian had the best versions of it though.
This is my favorite episode of the show! More inner turmoil and magical realism, and the Yoda thing... more mimicing the Original Trilogy design so I can live with that.
I started Rebels after you guys and now I've finished season 2 a few weeks ago. I am trying to wait for you guys to start season 3 by watching other shows, but I don't think I can just do one a week but want to stay in same seasons with y'all.
Once again, like the rest of the show's design aesthetic, Yoda's look in Rebels is inspired by Ralph McQuarrie's designs. But I do wish they'd used the design from Clone Wars.
@@StupidWeb I reckon it would change depending on the day for me to be fair. The peaks of rebels can only exist because of clone wars and the relationships and lore they built up there, also having the music from the movies goes a long way too
@@TheOTA101 This is absolutely unfair to Rebels. We get these peaks brought with Clone Wars until S2, in S3 Rebels finally comes to its own. You can argue that Maul is still around in S3 but honestly the highlight from s3 through to the end of s4 is the Ghost Crew and their growing bond as a family and the depiction of their learnings and personalities and motives. I always saw as absolutely unfair saying Rebels only has peaks because CW existed. CW tried but being an anthology series, never had this level of character building and storytelling. It does have, mainly with Ashoka and Rex, but never on the level of Rebels. But well, two completely different series in the end.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: taken as a whole Rebels is at a higher level of story telling than Clone Wars. Sorry, wait, correction, that's assuming you exclude S7 of CW which really isn't the same show IMO, entirely different rule set for that one thanks to the budget. Rebels hits the ground running, has very few bad episodes and makes you care about an entirely new cast with nothing but cameos linking you to the films. Clone Wars is *really* hit and miss in the first couple of seasons and has the benefit of not only a central cast largely taken from the films but a war setting which allows spectacle to carry dodgy plotting on occasion. Put it this way: I've now lent the complete boxsets of both CW and Rebels to five different friends over the last few years. All of them prefer Rebels and two didn't make it past CW season 2 before losing interest (one has since forced themselves to do so purely thanks to Ahsoka in Rebels). Completely understand why someone would go the other way of course but Rebels definitely ends up under-rated by a lot of CW fans for..... well, not being CW.
@@smiddlehurst1 personally, I think the only reason you could think Rebels is overall better than CW is because CW is so much bigger in terms of episodes. It throws so much at the wall, and by season 3, there's really no bad arcs (except the droids arc, and mace and Jar Jar in Season 6(you can also say the Martez sisters arc, but that's a fine arc it just didn't belong in the final season)) and most stuck
This was a fine episode and great to see more insight on visiting other abandoned Jedi Temple along with seeing Yoda again and of course The Grand Inquisitor when he was a Jedi Temple Guard.
I remember being excited/confused at the time that it sounds like Rey's theme is gently playing in the background when Yoda says "Find Malachor" at 11:08. Weirdly coincidentally similar sounding music/instrument?
I think most people have an adverse reaction to this Yoda because he doesn’t look like Clone Wars Yoda, not because the model itself is bad. I personally like it a lot because it actually looks like OT Yoda. And it’s amazing to have Frank Oz voice him.
Ahsoka got a lot of guilt over the events that happened before the end of the Clone wars...i think the temple just responded to it, to what she needed at that moment...Just like the temple responded to the need of solutions and goal for Ezra and the need of validation and confidence for Kanan ! Those temple are tricky alright...
I don't think the yoda looks that bad. They just tried to make it look more like him in the original trilogy. With their low budget, they probably rushed it.
I know why Ahsoka was a rarely recurring character in Rebels, and I agree with their reasons for not making it the Ahsoka show, but I do wish we had gotten just a little bit more of her. She was so good.
I fucking LOVE this episode from that explosive intro where you see Ezra and Kanan getting good at working together, to the reintroduction of Ahsoka to Matt Lanter as Anakin to the temple scenes. Good god did this set the bar for later wok by Dave(season 7 of CW, Season 2 of Mandalorian). A fun reference is both of Anakin's legs and an arm....are obscured by smoke, talking about his fall. Jason Isaacs, Frank Oz, and James Earl Jones all returning, and goddamn Kevin Kiner loves to flex. About Yoda's design, no it's not up to the level of Prequel Yoda.....but it's not as creepy AF as the puppet in TLJ, or ESB. And, Kanan....is now a full knight
Like Luke said the. Jedi don’t own the light and I forgot where I read but the force in the temples/dark cave will always tell the truth look at all scenes and it’s true
nice to watch your reactions as always I particularly like this episode and all the meaning of these messages conveyed through it. These three childrens of the force came and found that despite being into a desperate time... there's still hope in front of their eyes or through others. I don't mind the "Rebels" version of Yoda. it reminds me of a yoda that is not yet tormented by the long years of exile on Dagobah and subtly aged the years of its failure against "Sidious". We can feel the weight and the suffering through on his face in his failure and despite everything he keep spreading his altruism and wisdom to the next generation of people who could possibly become one with the force. Kiner's song ....tremendous piece of art as always... it got me everytime ( don't throw rocks at me ! i don't write fluent english.)
Think Yoda’s look doesn’t bother me because I always thought that was how Ezra thought he looked… And that it’s been years since Ashoka saw him but that’s just me
I had to convince one of my best friends to keep watching Rebels to the point that we just binge watched it all so she would see this episode and the finale. I remember watching the finale when it aired and not being able to talk about it to her without spoilers and then finally I could after 2/3 years… I was so happy 😌
I think people focus to much on the Yoda desing (with is supose to look like more like the original trilogy puppet) and don't pay attention to the message he gives
„The last time i saw him he was rushibg off to rescue the chancellor“ Ohhhh thats even true!!!!! he wasnt rushing off to the siddious fight he was going with obi wan and the fleet to rescue palpatine from grievous!!! That line is so epic now that clone wars s7 happened
To my understanding (that might be completely wrong) alot of the designs from Rebels are based on original designs from the original Star Wars before the finished version. I read somewhere that what we have here as Lasat are the original design for wookies. And light sabers are long and thin here because that was the original design, more like a rapier than a broadsword.
The Mass Shadow Generator from Malachor did not reap the force from people. It was an early gravity generator which pulled the Mandalorian fleet from orbit crashing down into the planet. It also crashed republic ships with officers and soldiers not loyal to Revan. By the time Malachor happened, Jedi Knight Revan had become Darth Revan in all but name. The Exile lost her force connection because she wanted it, so to speak. To shield her mind from all the millions dying around her, she cut her force connection.
Can you guys explain what the temple guard said about seeing Kanan again and his prophecy. So, by Kanan realizing he cannot protect Ezra forever, he passes the temple guard's test??
I wish it was explained after the grand inquisitor last appearance on this episode he later appeared in the Comics during EMPIRE Strikes back timeline as force spirit trying stop Luke finding a light saber in a Jedi temple still fighting for the dark side and Vader shows up in disappointment after Luke beat him and Vader tell him he has more use for him basically he is forever his slave
Talking about how the dark side tainting the force, it reminded of lore about lightsabers. All sith have red lightsabers because the crystal inside "bleeds" due to the dark side corrupting it. A jedi (or at least a good-aligned force user) can "heal" the crystal within a siths lightsaber over time, which turns the blade white due to it being purified in a sense
I think Ahsoka always knew Anakin had become Vader ever since the season 2 premiere she was just in denial. Even now until she literally cut his Mask open in the finale
What if... the reason that Yoda looks "wrong" is because that's how Ezra sees him.. he described what he got told he looked like to Ahsoka.. "small, green wrinkly with pointy ears"
Coming to this late, but I've been thinking about the Yoda model and why it seems "off" for many. If the attempt was to pay homage to the original puppet, perhaps it invokes a kind of animated "Uncanny Valley"--it's close... but not quite. Thus, it can be unsettling.
Almost there and Rick and Calvin will see Thrawn. I do hope Eric have them do the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire etc) then react to the canon comic.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't have a problem with Yoda's look in this one. That's not to say it's amazing, but I think it's okay. And those creatures (tibidees) are the same species as on Stygeon Prime.
I agree that Ahsoka/Anakin was a brother/sister relationship, but Ahsoka turned out fine because she already had a father figure - Plo Koon. Anakin had Palpatine. It was a sick relationship that Palpatine built for his own gains, but it was very much a father/son relationship. The only thing that could break Anakin out of his grooming was his OWN son.
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The best episode of seasons 2 besides the ending and also after this will be a sad one for droid
Watching Eric and Aaron do their best to not openly sob at peek Star Wars content is one of my favourite things!
Honestly there are like 20 moments in this episode that make me tear up. This one is super emotional especially in retrospect
"Anakin Skywalker....he was my master. He was powerful, rarely lost a battle. What would have surprised people is how kind he was. He cared deeply about his friends and looked out for them until the end."
Until they met the youngling slayer 2000... lol
This is true for Vader... from a certain point of view.
Vader was powerful, rarely lost a battle. He was kind (at least more forgiving than the Emperor) and he cared deeply about his Jedi friends and never gave up searching for them.
@@rlacksgh9673 Bruh he wanted to kill them lol. He sees the Jedi as evil
@@sebastianhaney1425 "from a certain point of view"
He really did care deeply about his jedi "friends" locations so he could kill them
"Couldn't land a starship for shit though!"
Calvin: It was great to have Matt Lanter and James Earl Jones together in one episode.
Eric: *trying desperately to keep a straight face*
🤐
The only acceptable Anakins are Hayden Christensen and Mat Lucas.
@@vetarlittorf1807 And Matt Lanter
@@reality8470 No. Lanter doesn't count. He doesn't sound cold or conflicted enough. Anakin also needs to sound somewhat monotonous. That's how you know that he's an unstable person trying to keep his cool. We didn't get that from Lanter's performance.
Frankly I don't understand why Filoni kept James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan but not Mat Lucas (who sounds almost identical to Christensen) as Anakin.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Agree to disagree on that. Mat Lucas does sound more like Hayden, but I don’t feel like he portrays emotions as well as Hayden or Matt Lanter. I couldn’t really imagine him in The Clone Wars (2008). Just my opinion though, he still did great in the 2003 Clone Wars.
"It's great having Matt Lanter and James Earl Jones in the same episode."
Oh Calvin.. Soon.
The visions in the temple on Lothal have been confirmed to have been visions provided by Yoda so Kanan's knighting is very much authentic
yup
Shit really? Powerful the aged Master is
So Yoda did force projection before Luke. It just confirms how impossible it would be to do such a power without dying from it, because he never does it outside the Jedi temple. I know they’re built on powerful force nexuses or something like that, so that might be the only thing giving him strength to do it without dying/
@@c.a.honeycutt5046 That and maybe how many times he did it with Ezra and Kanan twice and Ashoka once might have accelerated his physical body exhaustion overtime that may or may not have contributed to his death few years later.
"Do you know what I've become?"
Each time I hear that line in this episode, I get shivers. Matt Lanter's vocal performance is exceptional here.
Aside from the weird Yoda model (I don't hate it, but I get it) this is seriously one of the best episodes in the whole show.
I don’t really mind it at all it’s not great but I generally like the rebels art style
Yeah, the spirit was definitely in the right place with that yoda but he looks a bit too decrepit, even for orignal trilogy yoda lol
Yoda was weird in CW too.
At first I thought it was Ezra's interpretation of Yoda since he never saw him....but once Asoka saw the same version I realized it was by design. I think it was an unnecessary change.
This episode is just one of the best.
We had : The battle right into with the inquisitors, Ahsoka’s holocron showing us Anakin along with the backstory of what happened at the end of the Clone Wars, heading to the Jedi Temple. Everyone going there way: Kanan to his Jedi Knight trial, Ezra to talk with Yoda, Ahsoka’s vision about Anakin’s turn. Along with that with the Inquisitors arriving at the Jedi Temple and discovering the truth about it. They open the temple , causing it to start crumbling at first, while the other 3 find there way together. Ahsoka sees Yoda on her way out. The inquisitors enter the temple, face the Temple Guards (thru a Force Vision), the 3 talk about Malachor, and finally Vader arrives at the Jedi Temple, ending the episode with his Breath.
the part where Ahsoka looks back at Yoda and he waves is very reminiscent of The Last Crusade where Indiana Jones looks back at the knight as the temple colapses
what ahsoka subconsciously knows, she finally accepts in her conscious mind. so much pain
Yoda looks been doing some deathsticks also I think Dave confirmed Yoda was responsible for all of Their visions.
That would be really cool, actually. It implies that Yoda, a Jedi Grandmaster, knighted Kanan, not the Force.
3:26 You can just see on Eric's face how much he loves this scene.
One of my favourite episodes of Rebels.
Dang it. I am such a damn nerd, crying for such simple symbolism. Such a good freakin episode and show. Also, it is funny to see Aaron and Eric dance around what the area is like where Ezra is... I was waiting for one of them to say "Its like a world between Worlds". I saw that look Eric! 27:56
They know 😉
aren't we all here damn nerds?
Eric couldn't even look away from the screen to write down his notes
Aaron- "Its like a...a between area" Smooth....
*Giggles in future knowledge*
"Hey, Dave Filoni wolves"
Being temple guard was a voluntary decision, the grand inquisitor choose to be one because he was disappointed with the order for their secretism and for forbidding exploring more of the ways of the force, then with ahsoka's detention and after seeing the corruption of the council he bacame more and more frustrated and started to fall in the dark side, probably around that time he was contacted by Sidious. Also when Anakin and the 501 attacked the temple he was responsible for the death of all the temple guards
YES .I was expecting Eric to say this but he didn't . Maybe because G I is underrated or he dont really know
wow the more you know thx Josu for the extra lore!
@@deltaalex8253 you're welcome! Also note that all of this is barely canon, they're just things that have been said by the writers, but everything is subject to change if they want to expand his backstory by going in another direction. I recommend the Vader: Dark lord of the sith comics if you want to learn a little more about the grand inquisitor beginnings
I'd like to see how the Jedi would pass off one of the aliens like Kit Fisto or Aayla Secura squeezing into one of those Temple Guard outfits & have them keep their identity secret :P
The Temple guards did usually have their hoods up, to be fair, so MAYBE you could hide the head-tails under there, somehow. No idea how you hide, like, Oppo Rancisis and his giant snake tail, tho.
@@Wolf6119 has secret tunnels in Jedi temple and when someone breaks in it becomes a horror movie. You hear something slithering through the walls alongside you
Hiding their individual identity is different than obscuring their species though.
@@PierceArner Not really when you only have one or two prominent Jedi of a particular species who make it to that point.
@@erikjohnson3859 That's because those for those few particular individuals, their species alone is a unique characteristic identifier within the Jedi. There isn't a way to have a uniform mask that for a role like the Temple Guard until there are other members of their species present as Jedi to make masking their identity possible.
It's not about the limitations of the design of the uniform at all. It's about how you create that type of obscurity with a uniform. If you had single Wookiee & Jawa Jedi, their height alone would identify them as a Temple Guard even though they could hide everything else easily with those same humanoid uniforms. That's why uniforms are only able to obscure identity within a group that already shares those individuals' general characteristics - because it only masks identity.
"Ahsoka....why did you leave?"
"Where were you when I needed you?"
"I made a choice, I couldn't stay."
"You were selfish."
"No!"
"You abandoned me! You failed me! Do you know what I've become?"
"No. NOOOO!"
Hi Ashoka
You are the best jedi ever🥰🥰
@@Ghostkiller_110 She is no jedi 😍
There's a fun moment of reference with the smoke placement during this vision . It took me years to find it, and now I can't not see it
@@Ghostkiller_110 lol no
One of the single best episodes in not just Star Wars animation but in all of Star Wars PERIOD.
I actually shed a tears in this episode.
When we actually SEE Yoda talking to Ezra and then see him wave to Ahsoka.
When we see Kanan being knighted and become a true Jedi Knight
And especially when Ahsoka talks with Anakin and finally realizes that her master, her hero, the person she loved and trusted more than anyone in the galaxy has become Darth Vader, then breaks down in tears.😭😭😭😭
Damnit Dave Filoni, you pull at my heartstrings more than any Pixar movie ever has.
agreed
That smile when he waves hits SO DIFFERENT after Shattered. Did you guys notice that Ahsoka's vision of Anakin had 1 arm, and both legs......obscured?
This is just me, but I like the idea that just for brief moments, the Force bring together a dead Force User’s awareness, or at the very least an image of them, just for a little bit to relay information.
Also, these are the episodes where we really see Ahsoka’s guilt for her leaving Anakin behind, realizing that he is Vader and how she contributed to it.
To your first point: between Yoda's line in ROTS to Anakin and Yoda's quest in season 6 of CW, we know the Force, and the priestesses are somewhat sentient. Palpatine himself was a great threat to the balance of the Force
This, the finale, and 3x01 are the episodes I'm most excited for coming up.
Rick on yoda-
“That’s one of the worst thing I’ve ever seen. I don’t understand”.
Lol that made me laugh because I don’t think I’ve met any fans that would disagree 😂
And that was meant to be an attempt of animation of the original puppet for Yoda.
I disliked the Anakin version but I found Yoda fine
I would disagree.
I actually like this more than ESB and TLJ puppet
when this show first started, I wrote a long post about Ezra's connection to animals, and where I called him "beastmaster", years later people are still calling him that and I love it
Ashoka: "Then everything changed..."
Calvin: "The Fire Nation attacked."
I love that lmfao
Malachor...another attempt from Dave Filoni to bring pieces of the KOTOR universe in the canon one ! Someday we will have a serie about it...it can't be discarded ! There is to much good thing in it !!
He almost brought Revan's Spirit into the Mortis arc of Clone Wars
@@StupidWeb And Darth Bane's as well even though they got to do that again as a vision or allusion created by the Force Priestesses.
hope so ,,Anything is better than the crap show we had movies episodes 8 & 9 were pretty bad
Only a few more episodes away from twilight, baby!!
I mean I don't LOVE Yoda's look here, but I honestly dislike Anakin way more. Obi-Wan looks great in his holocron, and Yoda looks... fine, I guess (He looks like a pretty accurate animated version of the Episode 5 puppet, to me), but Anakin just looks like a Ken doll, no resemblance to the Clone Wars version OR Hayden whatsoever.
I would argue about Vader and the Stormtroopers design in Rebels, cause seeing their designs from the last episode of Clone Wars makes me prefer the Clone Wars designs more than their designs in Rebels.
At least C-3PO and R2-D2's designs in Rebels look exactly to how they look in the films.
oh i agree. i think Holocron Anakin by far has the worst design in the show. Yoda looks weird, but not that bad considering hes a little green man.
Ahsoka listening and watching Anakin is similar to when you lose a loved one, and you watch something with them in it or listen to an old voice mail just to hear or see them again in some capacity.
Yeah it's so sad😔
The twinge of the score just after the vision of Vader vanished matches the score from the end of the series finale of clone wars and the foresight it took to plan that is blowing my mind
It is literally Ahsoka's leitmotif. It is plastered all over the TCW movie, Seasons 3, 5 and 7. Rebels and Mandalorian had the best versions of it though.
I love that we have finally gotten to the point where Rebels goes from good to great! So excited for them to see the next couple of episodes.
This is my favorite episode of the show! More inner turmoil and magical realism, and the Yoda thing... more mimicing the Original Trilogy design so I can live with that.
I started Rebels after you guys and now I've finished season 2 a few weeks ago. I am trying to wait for you guys to start season 3 by watching other shows, but I don't think I can just do one a week but want to stay in same seasons with y'all.
Once again, like the rest of the show's design aesthetic, Yoda's look in Rebels is inspired by Ralph McQuarrie's designs.
But I do wish they'd used the design from Clone Wars.
This design is ok ish. But it gets hated because the clone wars design became iconic.
I kind a see it as him aging whilst in hiding.
Yoda is not drawn well here.
@@jennym2276 yeah he isn’t just trying to make it make sense in my head. lol!
In the Vader comics, the go into how he went from Temple Gaurd to Grand Inquisitor
"It's like... a between area"
Looks knowingly at the camera
Episodes like this are where the peaks of Rebels surpass Clone wars in many ways
I don't think I'd go quite that far, I think the peaks, and even highs of Clone Wars, are still too high for even the peaks of Rebels to reach
@@StupidWeb I reckon it would change depending on the day for me to be fair. The peaks of rebels can only exist because of clone wars and the relationships and lore they built up there, also having the music from the movies goes a long way too
@@TheOTA101 This is absolutely unfair to Rebels. We get these peaks brought with Clone Wars until S2, in S3 Rebels finally comes to its own. You can argue that Maul is still around in S3 but honestly the highlight from s3 through to the end of s4 is the Ghost Crew and their growing bond as a family and the depiction of their learnings and personalities and motives.
I always saw as absolutely unfair saying Rebels only has peaks because CW existed.
CW tried but being an anthology series, never had this level of character building and storytelling. It does have, mainly with Ashoka and Rex, but never on the level of Rebels. But well, two completely different series in the end.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: taken as a whole Rebels is at a higher level of story telling than Clone Wars. Sorry, wait, correction, that's assuming you exclude S7 of CW which really isn't the same show IMO, entirely different rule set for that one thanks to the budget. Rebels hits the ground running, has very few bad episodes and makes you care about an entirely new cast with nothing but cameos linking you to the films. Clone Wars is *really* hit and miss in the first couple of seasons and has the benefit of not only a central cast largely taken from the films but a war setting which allows spectacle to carry dodgy plotting on occasion. Put it this way: I've now lent the complete boxsets of both CW and Rebels to five different friends over the last few years. All of them prefer Rebels and two didn't make it past CW season 2 before losing interest (one has since forced themselves to do so purely thanks to Ahsoka in Rebels). Completely understand why someone would go the other way of course but Rebels definitely ends up under-rated by a lot of CW fans for..... well, not being CW.
@@smiddlehurst1 personally, I think the only reason you could think Rebels is overall better than CW is because CW is so much bigger in terms of episodes. It throws so much at the wall, and by season 3, there's really no bad arcs (except the droids arc, and mace and Jar Jar in Season 6(you can also say the Martez sisters arc, but that's a fine arc it just didn't belong in the final season)) and most stuck
I don't mind Yoda, it reminds me of OT Yoda. But I can see why people don't like it much.
This was a fine episode and great to see more insight on visiting other abandoned Jedi Temple along with seeing Yoda again and of course The Grand Inquisitor when he was a Jedi Temple Guard.
"like a space between areas""
"Like a World between Wordls".
I remember being excited/confused at the time that it sounds like Rey's theme is gently playing in the background when Yoda says "Find Malachor" at 11:08. Weirdly coincidentally similar sounding music/instrument?
Yoda was struggling with a death stick addiction .
I think most people have an adverse reaction to this Yoda because he doesn’t look like Clone Wars Yoda, not because the model itself is bad. I personally like it a lot because it actually looks like OT Yoda. And it’s amazing to have Frank Oz voice him.
Ahsoka got a lot of guilt over the events that happened before the end of the Clone wars...i think the temple just responded to it, to what she needed at that moment...Just like the temple responded to the need of solutions and goal for Ezra and the need of validation and confidence for Kanan ! Those temple are tricky alright...
yup
I love that Eric secretly can't keep the joy from his face! :)
27:21 Aaron and Eric foreshadowing S4
We are almost there... almost there.....
Can't wait to see their reaction to the S2 finale!
I don't think the yoda looks that bad. They just tried to make it look more like him in the original trilogy. With their low budget, they probably rushed it.
I know why Ahsoka was a rarely recurring character in Rebels, and I agree with their reasons for not making it the Ahsoka show, but I do wish we had gotten just a little bit more of her. She was so good.
I fucking LOVE this episode from that explosive intro where you see Ezra and Kanan getting good at working together, to the reintroduction of Ahsoka to Matt Lanter as Anakin to the temple scenes. Good god did this set the bar for later wok by Dave(season 7 of CW, Season 2 of Mandalorian). A fun reference is both of Anakin's legs and an arm....are obscured by smoke, talking about his fall. Jason Isaacs, Frank Oz, and James Earl Jones all returning, and goddamn Kevin Kiner loves to flex. About Yoda's design, no it's not up to the level of Prequel Yoda.....but it's not as creepy AF as the puppet in TLJ, or ESB. And, Kanan....is now a full knight
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One of my all time favourite SW content in this episode, not just Rebels. I absolutely adore this episode. Not much else to say.
Ahsoka being forced to accept that Anakin is Darth Vader is so emotional! I was hoping for some tears lol 😂
The only one who had tears was Ahsoka herself.
Like Luke said the. Jedi don’t own the light and I forgot where I read but the force in the temples/dark cave will always tell the truth look at all scenes and it’s true
nice to watch your reactions as always
I particularly like this episode and all the meaning of these messages conveyed through it. These three childrens of the force came and found that despite being into a desperate time... there's still hope in front of their eyes or through others.
I don't mind the "Rebels" version of Yoda. it reminds me of a yoda that is not yet tormented by the long years of exile on Dagobah and subtly aged the years of its failure against "Sidious". We can feel the weight and the suffering through on his face in his failure and despite everything he keep spreading his altruism and wisdom to the next generation of people who could possibly become one with the force.
Kiner's song ....tremendous piece of art as always... it got me everytime
( don't throw rocks at me ! i don't write fluent english.)
Can't wait for the reaction to episode 22 😬
Think Yoda’s look doesn’t bother me because I always thought that was how Ezra thought he looked… And that it’s been years since Ashoka saw him but that’s just me
"Do u know what I’ve become" and "then u will die" are my 2 favorite lines of the show, by anakin inside of the darkness of Vader.
I had to convince one of my best friends to keep watching Rebels to the point that we just binge watched it all so she would see this episode and the finale. I remember watching the finale when it aired and not being able to talk about it to her without spoilers and then finally I could after 2/3 years… I was so happy 😌
I think people focus to much on the Yoda desing (with is supose to look like more like the original trilogy puppet) and don't pay attention to the message he gives
Yeah, I love the perspective he gives about the war and its effect on the Jedi.
One of my favourites episodes
I love the emotion ashoka had when she found out they did it very well 😭
Somehow my mindset transferred to the rebels being tax evaders midway through this.
"I imagine they're never going back to that temple again." 👀
09:29 I know, I know 😭😭😭😭
Thanks, Eric! Thanks, Rick! Thanks, Calvin! Thanks, Aaron! 🌟
I want so badly for them to get to the season finally. It just so good!! Asoka’s fight scene just blows me away every time, I love it!!
We are so close to the finale I can't wait
Man do I love this episode. And with the music chosen- really epically good- other than the Yoda design.
such a good arc and episode and just all of it
„The last time i saw him he was rushibg off to rescue the chancellor“ Ohhhh thats even true!!!!! he wasnt rushing off to the siddious fight he was going with obi wan and the fleet to rescue palpatine from grievous!!! That line is so epic now that clone wars s7 happened
6:02 offspring hell yea
To my understanding (that might be completely wrong) alot of the designs from Rebels are based on original designs from the original Star Wars before the finished version. I read somewhere that what we have here as Lasat are the original design for wookies. And light sabers are long and thin here because that was the original design, more like a rapier than a broadsword.
The Grand inquisitor actually killed a bunch of temple guards to let Anakin and the 501st into the Jedi temple
Puppy dog eyes at 9:30.
The Mass Shadow Generator from Malachor did not reap the force from people. It was an early gravity generator which pulled the Mandalorian fleet from orbit crashing down into the planet. It also crashed republic ships with officers and soldiers not loyal to Revan. By the time Malachor happened, Jedi Knight Revan had become Darth Revan in all but name. The Exile lost her force connection because she wanted it, so to speak. To shield her mind from all the millions dying around her, she cut her force connection.
what do they always try to do at the end? 12:40
Can you guys explain what the temple guard said about seeing Kanan again and his prophecy. So, by Kanan realizing he cannot protect Ezra forever, he passes the temple guard's test??
I wish it was explained after the grand inquisitor last appearance on this episode he later appeared in the Comics during EMPIRE Strikes back timeline as force spirit trying stop Luke finding a light saber in a Jedi temple still fighting for the dark side and Vader shows up in disappointment after Luke beat him and Vader tell him he has more use for him basically he is forever his slave
Talking about how the dark side tainting the force, it reminded of lore about lightsabers. All sith have red lightsabers because the crystal inside "bleeds" due to the dark side corrupting it. A jedi (or at least a good-aligned force user) can "heal" the crystal within a siths lightsaber over time, which turns the blade white due to it being purified in a sense
I hope all of these years later everyone understands why yoda looks how he does. Stuart Freeborn.
I think Ahsoka always knew Anakin had become Vader ever since the season 2 premiere she was just in denial. Even now until she literally cut his Mask open in the finale
What if... the reason that Yoda looks "wrong" is because that's how Ezra sees him.. he described what he got told he looked like to Ahsoka.. "small, green wrinkly with pointy ears"
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Ahh, I forgot how good this episode was!
This episode is amazing
This and the finale are the best episodes of the season
i was thinking maybe Yoda looks different becouse that is Ezra's perception.
But then I remembered that Ashoka saw him too.
9:11 looks like he’s righting some important scribbles
12:50 WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO DO WHEN THEY DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MUST KNOW CAUSE I WANT IN
When I was watching rebels on tv when it was airing I thought it looked different then I saw yoda was like ya it's definitely different
Coming to this late, but I've been thinking about the Yoda model and why it seems "off" for many. If the attempt was to pay homage to the original puppet, perhaps it invokes a kind of animated "Uncanny Valley"--it's close... but not quite. Thus, it can be unsettling.
Almost there and Rick and Calvin will see Thrawn. I do hope Eric have them do the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire etc) then react to the canon comic.
If Richard Herd portrayed Master Yoda.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't have a problem with Yoda's look in this one. That's not to say it's amazing, but I think it's okay. And those creatures (tibidees) are the same species as on Stygeon Prime.
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I’m just counting down the reactions until the season 2 finale...
Such an amazing episode. I feel bad for people who refuse to watch Rebels.
Yes, we all know the Yoda model looked horrible lol
Return OF The Grand Inquisitor,
Does he have an actual name besides for the fact that he used to be a Jedi temple guard?
Nope, Dave may have one in mind but he's not gonna tell.
I agree that Ahsoka/Anakin was a brother/sister relationship, but Ahsoka turned out fine because she already had a father figure - Plo Koon. Anakin had Palpatine. It was a sick relationship that Palpatine built for his own gains, but it was very much a father/son relationship. The only thing that could break Anakin out of his grooming was his OWN son.
If it sounds and talks like yoda it’s yoda to me. Visual interpretations may vary