INTERVIEW: Orania Myths BUSTED.
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Apologies for the sound, loadshedding noises in the background came on as we started recording.
Strange how Orania has suddenly come to the fore.... because they are successful !!!
Yip, it is a threat to the current government as they would not want the rest of the citizens to see how efficiently local municipalities should be run...
Soon there will be talks in Luthuli House about Orania being counter-revolutionary...
Personally, I am awaiting some moves from government to hinder progress in that community
Because they are white...
To true Wynand !!!
Like south Africa used to be!
And crime free.
When a town is built for the people by the people. The Afrikaans people are very resilient through out the years. Even I have to acknowledge that.
Duh... that is the white man that made SA. You would've still danced naked around the fire if it was not for the white man....
With GOD the Almighty, anything is possible, and a must, to build in HIS NAME because JESUS LOVES ALL OF US FIRST AMEN
If only the government could inspire people to do the same, there would be a prosperous future for the country. But corruption and greed reigns in SA.
The government will by design not foster an Orania type of culture and mentality. The government needs the populus behoven on it for everything, that's the only way it can exercise control over the people.
Modern governance is not there for the benifit of citizens of a country, it exists for the benifit of a caball of elites that wish to dominate and control the world.
Follow the money!
@@zabadackakaHansCoche Think a about what their power is built on, racialism. ANC and EFF rhetoric is keeping the majority in a state of stagnation, filling their heads with intolerance and communist notions of free shit and a utopia wherby taking from others and handing it out. All a system that drains they economy ane grows nothing.
Well Done to the Afrikaner volk . We wish you strength and Prosperity from Australia 🇦🇺
Racist bastard.
Orania is a perfect example of "with absolute freedom, comes absolute responsibility for oneself". Awesome interview. The word "self" is the core of Orania. "we built this our self", "self sufficient", "self sustaining" and "self determent". Moving away from Government dependent to Self dependent is what liberates this community. I would love to see this being something being done by other groups and tribes in SA successfully. Centralization has been the dead horse being beaten over and over in SA giving the same failed results for years. Orania is an example of success when you ditch the centralization concept and going self reliant.
I absolutely love what they doing and fully agree that one must take care of "self"! I do wonder, how long before Orania develops a government and people start depending on it. It seems a lot of time these kinds of things work on a small scale, but soon enough, it gets complex and suddenly you need a State/Government. Then the madness of government control and state dependence begins...
Not all government rule is bad, I think that if they had their own government it would be made up of like minded people. They would first need to isolate themselves from RSA, some kind of homeland status, then their government could collect their own taxes and feed that back to their own community. Currently they pay various taxes to the ANC thieves who give absolutely nothing back, in any form.
even in Europe and lots in Germany that they don't want other colours moving to their country,, on buses trams, when other colour people climb on them the people and mainly women, will clasp their handbags and cellphones closer to their bodies and if they are sitting against the window they move closer to the window, i immediately noticed that, in certain suburbs in Hannover u hardly find Turks living there, they live in other suburbs where more Turks live, my forefather came from Germany, they brought apartheid with them to Africa and mostly south africa . all white people living in South Africa forefathers came from Mostly Europe , and they brought apartheid with them ,look what the Germans did to the South West Africa country people,murdered them by the thousands
@RA Horus They do their OWN works! No hand outs. Lift you ass and start using your hands and start working for yourself. Stop bullshitting like a politician. Piss off.
@@rahorus9187 It's linked to the SA Rand. Their bank is registered and received the SA banking award for best Cooperative Bank in SA. Their economy is currently worth half a billion rand. Now let's address the "Selfish" claim you are pitching here. Who are they inconveniencing, and where did they put a burden on anyone with their needs? They didn't and have not irresponsibly forced their well being onto others. Educate yourself and understand the definition of being selfish vs being self reliant. They don't take a dime from the government.
Afrikaners have been all about self determination from inception,they have paid for it in blood,30 000 Afrikaaner woman and children died in English concentration camps.This is not a new phenomenon,I don't know why this considered abnormal in some circles.
Well not just Afrikaners. But yes, its all the only reason why we are here in the first place but everyone else in the world kept budding in and fking us around. Each time we built something, someone wants to take it or tear it down.
@@melon9680 Yup,give an inch,they take the whole hand.
@@davidmcfarlane5873 The same applies to most everything, it's a familiar concept that everyone has to deal with. Female Lions kill a buck, maybe the wild dogs will claim it as there own. Don't get hang up on it too much.
Let us never forget the Afrikaana concentration camps and the women and children that suffered 😢.
The difference between creating wealth and abusing wealth.
Diversity is conflict. Eliminate diversity and most conflict will evaporate too. South Africa and Orania are examples of this. Saying this is not "hate". It's just a recognition of reality.
Outsiders think Oranian lifestyle is "easy" or "privileged" because they're only seeing the by-product of decades of dedicated, solid, hard work. They built it, they deserve every bit of their success!
Orania is only one example of many highly successful intentional communities around the world. Look up Findhorn, Damanhur, Auroville to name but a few. And, USA has many too. All were built on basic principles of common ethos, specific culture and coordinated hardwork over decades. Orania is no different!
I visited and stayed overnight in Orania last year coming back from the Cape. It is a very peaceful place and as a non-Afrikaans speaking Brit, I was treated with curtesy and, well, just normally. I went to the hotel restaurant and when I explained I could not speak Afrikaans, they spoke to me in English. No problem at all.
Whatever your opinion of this venture, you have to take your hat off to the founders of the place for making this happen.
In the great scheme of things, this is early days for the town as they try to become less dependent on the rest of South Africa.
I would have asked two questions.
1. How can they truly ever become autonomous when their fuel, (diesel for instance) is produced and shipped from outside.
2. What happens if you need major surgery. Do you have to travel to a major centre for this.
I am not getting at them but at this stage of development, which may change to address these two questions, how truly autonomous is Orania.
Great content guys. Keep it up.
I can buy my laptop from evetech, which they import from SEA. Doesnt make me Chinese. It's the same thing regarding diesel, gas etc.
1. Import, the goal is being autonomous but no one can be fully autonomous, no-one lives in a vacuum so creating relationships with folks that can assist and support you is a good thing, already reached out alot to the xhosa leaders and trade among another.
2. That is a just a matter of equipment and skill, still dont have it but it would propably be a non-issue not so far off in the futurre. Bloemfontein is not so far off and is a major hub for medical services, so just going there if it is something they can't handle.
Most respected man in the conservative Afrikaner community
Orania exists on private property. Let them do as they please. There are several exclusively black towns across South Africa. Nobody ever mentions any of them.
Yeah well, maybe because they dont do anything that otherwise makes them relevant. Orania is in the lime light because of the obvious reason that you have intelligent, qualified hard working people who respect the law showing the morons in charge of this country how minorities do it. And everyone can see this nation would have been better off in the hands of minorities who are more developed than much of the majority. The state of this country speaks volumes.
Myself having no idea what living in a nice environment is like because i was born into this shithole, always get pissed off how standardless the majority is. Making a mess everywhere they go and fking up everything we worked so hard for and making a joke out of the rest. Im sick and tired of this filthy moron filled place that has only made my life difficult and killed all my hopes and dreams.
Most probably, they won't, because some of them are not doing so well!
The proof is once again shown with the growth of Oranje and values of the people. The " Boer" will make anything work and be successful
Well done Morning Shot at last a honest and fair assessment of Orania. Need to find out what the cost of property is there 🤔
When did he develop this doctrine? Mr Boshoff. His clarity of thought is mind sobering.
n boer maak n plan.... I read the biography of late Anton Rupert and the most apparent concept in the book and my subsequent observations of the Afrkaner people is that they just want to get on with things... full stop... a simple yet powerful paradox in the new SA... bravo to Orania
Orania is working and some people wants a piece of the pie thats why it has been in the news of late
@RA Horus oh but you are mistaken it was a empty piece of land they bought from the anc goverment and they built orania themselves so I should think it belongs to them dont you think??
Because their pies are burnt, and not as good as Oranias is, baked by professional!!
There will be many nay-sayers to what they have achieved here, and that is OK, but the truth is that they are showing us, and the world, the way forward. More strength to them!
if you watch the documentary; farmlands
you know why this town exists.
THANK YOU FROM AUSTRALIA MAYBE MY NEW COUNTRY IF I EVER COME HOME
When are you guys going to Zulu land and go look at what the king of the Zulus have done for his people, since he is getting something like 72 million a year from our tax money if I'm not mistaken?
Very good idea, and ask the question.
They're building Wakanda 2.0, haven't you heard?
Big ups to Orania people!!
That was enlightening. So there is a tragic backstory here about disempowerment and escaping into the country to get out of everyone's way.
This community is exactly what Credo Mutwa in his book My people advocates. A country where every tribe and race can keep their own identity and he says that only the Afrikaans people under Dr Vervoerd understood that this was exactly what the Bantu people wanted and needed. Every South African should read his book, It could change everything in this country we all love so much because Apartheid was never meant to be a bad thing. Unfortunately the British had a very different plan and Credo says that the Bantu people knew very well that the British wouldn't hesitate to exterminate them.
Dankie wit mense...
Ek wag al baie lank vir daardie erkenning. Gaan nie gebeur veral nie van ramaphosa by sal die land in die grond bestuur maar hulp vra no way.
Self determination is the only solution, having communities with the same values and aspirations are key to having a productive and worthy life.
Interesting. Everybody wants to see what is going on in Orania. Even you guys. The Voertsek ANC guy, (Rob Hersov) was there recently. I'm not sure he expressed an opinion publicly. The Make Africa Great again (African American), was very impressed while there. But afterwards said, nah, they should not exist. Your favourite politician, (McKenzie) could also not resist the urge to go see for himself. He said we can all learn from them. BUT, they should not exist. It hurts Lesufi deeply that white people could thrive in this country and JM warned he (the EFF) is coming for them.
Your observations I must admit was quite refreshing. You noticed it is just an ordinary town with ordinary, (friendly) people. No opulence and the place is remarkably clean. Good.
Just excellent. Am sharing with anyone who has a brain cell left. 🌹🌹🌹
Lots of wisdom there.
Great informative and positive interview ...Thanks guys.
Excellent, thank you so much.
Well done to you Orania. My wife and I dit apply to stay there and I can't wait.!!!
Great interview, I wish more communities were like this, also wish the audio was better. :)
The generator kicked in during load shedding.
It's a very beautiful town
Great stuff. Well done guy's.
Hard men create good times, good times create hard times.....Indeed.
Hear hear
Lovely chat well done
Everybody works no grants and sassa. No entitlement. They are proud of their town so thats why its so clean and no Brocken down and burned down buildings. They have PRIDE in what they sre doing.
God bless Orania, a shining light on the African continent. Honesty. Morals. Community. Maybe I need to practice my Afrikaans and apply.
Been following what they do for some time, this is happening all over the world now, people wanting control of their own lives and not being controlled by a government. they also do work in surrounding communities to teach them how to do it for their own communities.
Orania can be proud of a lot of things and this interview is another success, I think he did a superb job of answering questions and representing his community.
PS vooreg = privilege.
Voorreg😀
If only I could move there self determination they deserve the hardwork and bear the fruits of living in a peaceful and safe environment moral values etc South Africa is rotten
Thanks for the video. Very interesting to hear
Zululand, Transkei....etc whole countries exclusively for certain tribes..paid for by taxpayers
Well said 👍
Had SOUTH AFRICA THE SOLUTION (a highly devoluted confederation constitutional and economic model) by Leon Louw and Frances Kendall, not been sidelined by greed and vested interests at CODESA, we might have had similar working entities like this all over the country by now... And Eskom would probably still be working. We were shafted by our own political and corporate interests. Lest we forget, and repeat history’s mistakes.🤔
KODESA......Kom Ons Deel En Steel Alles.......
@@mazambane286 🌹Exactly .. just as in the 1994 election vote counting 😎🤣🤣🤣
Orania sounds a lot like Canada. You do your own house work, mow the lawn ex.
And you can leave your bicycle outside, go on holiday, come back and it's still there.
You also don't see police everywhere. The city's might be a bit different
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 a lot like Canada 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This "sounds a lot like Canada" is the first thing that's put me off Orania so far - joking but kinda true too...
@@ryanwulfsohn2563 I live in Canada, so I know
@Bruce we don't lock our front door, we leave our car running in winter, go do shopping and come back to a warm car.
@@alexblack6634 If it was in Canada , Comrade Justine Castro would call them white supremacists and then send in his bully boys to destroy them
God bless Orania SA. I hope Orania doesn't allow bad American TV and woke Hollywood movies - these destroy the morals and minds of our young people especially of our young women.
I wish these folks great success! There may be more and more groups around d the world who will look th them as a role model!
i have a few questions , what happens when you have a critical skill that orania doesn't have? Do they outsource for special or niche skills or items?
if the orania currency is pegged to the rand , does the shareblock have a reserve of both rands and orania currency?
Does orania have a bank or do they use outside banks ?
Does orania have a police in terms of the municipal policing act ?
Yes they have police or some kind of security
Yes they have a working bank
Yes they have some kind of a reserve
Yes they outsource some things that they have no 100% control like (delivery services from other cities/towns)
Love it
This is the answer I think . Self preservation. The rainbow nation was such a lovely idea but it hasn't worked!
Pray tell, do you think Orania wouldn't work if it was open to all races?
I think it could.. if those people had the same ideology and moral outlook..
The current South Africa is based on multi-ethnic ideology:
Various cultures living under the tyranny of the majority, because democracy does not have default outcomes. The choices a democracy makes are inherently based on the culture of the people in that democracy.
Orania is based on cultural ideology:
People with the same core values (religion), the same cultural values (culture & language). They decide as a collective group what their freedoms should be based on their values.
Ethnicity and culture are two different things. A nation can be multi-ethnic, but it cannot be multi-cultural. Culture is what defines a nation. Old nations have a correlation between their culture and their ethnicity, because ethnicity pursues the culture through mixing. Give any ethically diverse nation (with a single culture) a few hundred years, and there will be a correlation between their culture and ethnicity. Nature tends towards ethnic unity within a nation. But you cannot put different cultures together and call them a nation.
South Africa is not a nation, it is a union. No one in South Africa is willing to assimilate; to abandon their own culture to adopt another. Ironically, most Anglos think everyone should adopt their culture and their values. They'll dare to call you a "racist" if you don't.
A culture that has a rich history building and developing anything they touch sure as hell don't want to give it up and become part of a culture that has a history of destruction and entitlement. The only way democracy can work is by allocating all its Citizens Equal Voting Power. This means in simple terms counting all the different cultures/languages and affording them a Vote accordingly. So that for example all the Khoisan people vote = All the Zulu People vote = Afrikaaner = German = Chinese. Their votes count the same weight. That is a true culturally represented democracy. Apose to the current Vote which puts Zulu's in the majority and some families in power for ever.
Very interesting interview , sensible man
ESKON? What not generate our own power? And they rolled up their sleeves, and built their own power!
That is wisdom!!
What an impressive guy!!
This is the best reporting that you have done to date in my opinion! Thank you for the time and trouble yo have taken. Hopefully many people will take note of what has been achieved here and be prompted to emulate them - there is an established working model and from their newsletter they are more than willing to share the problems and successes they have had with people willing to do the hard work.
"voorreg" is privilege. So they see the privilege in taking on the hard life.
Was a federal system not discussed at Codessa and who shot it down?
What a pity Orania is so far away from my comfort zone 😊
I think each town or city should take charge and reset and take charge of resources and come together with community and start doing there own thing like orania
Yes!
I am going to get the site in that Orania
Hi.. I'm just sending out to related channels this truth.. in Genadendal Overberg SA .. the saps station as a whole are all coloured .. they recently weaponised themselves.. conveniently on behalf of my neighbor Brandon and his partner.. and their neighbors against me over a dispute where I simply walk my dogs around the block .. but Im harassed due to their dogs barking etc .. Ive done everything correctly.. but cops go super slow for me.. and super fast for them .. I recorded it all .. but it's like wading through a molasses of hatred and corruption.. and racism .. the real issue is the cops run drugs here .. with these very neighbors.. and I'm white .. and ex law enforcement.. and law abiding.. a recipe for constant collision .. and I'm alone and unarmed .. but more experienced than most cops here .. that are just gangsters .. my library overflows into cyber space with their abuses .. yet they continue . Start my own channel .. just on the wrongs of Genadendal cops .
I admire the ethos , the ethics , of these communities but I fear for them. The time may come where less organized people decide to take possession of a situation does not belong to them. I hope not and good luck.
All south africans have learnt valuable lessons in HUMILITY.
If the afrikaners want to be together somewhere so that their culture survives , let it be.
I am mediteranean, born in south africa, but i dont indentify with that culture. I identify more with the rooinekke or souties.
We greet each other like this: howsit!!
response: howsit!!
I would not want to live in orania, for the same reason i would never live in soweto.
I dont identify with the CULTURE. we feel like aliens on another planet in that enviroment .
They must do their thing, i will go and live wherever i feel accepted and welcome, and can identify with their culture.
At this stage of the new south africa, i dont fit in anywhere.
Everything has changed.
Transvaal is now gauteng?
Transkei is now eastern cape?
Pietersburg is now mabopane?
No thanks, not for me, not for my children , not for my grandkids
We could have emigrated to europe, but being used to wide open spaces, we chose canada.
U s.a race politics is destroying that country also, so we gave that a miss.
Australia would have been the best choice for us, but its almost impossible to get in there at my age.
I wish all of you the best of luck in the pursuit of peace.
Whites are being unfairly trampled on,28 years later and i do feel bad for those of them that are stuck there , wanting to emigrate, but cannot.
No Pietersburg is Polokwane now . But i follow the news in America and i se that man without balls, Tredoux is fast turning Canada into a totalitarian state .
Salute. The way to go. So if the freaking DA don’t have the balls to get Western Cape to go for Independence then maybe the people get them to listen up. We vote weather it’s through legal or otherwise means. How about creating another Orania close to our neighbors. No jokes okay but let’s call it Atlantis. All are invited just no sniveling politicians. Or Kings and dragon ladies.
Or primitive bums who are going to bitch about race and being an economical burden.
If the EFF chanted 'kill the koreans' and the koreans in SA moved to an isolated town to preserve their lives and culture, no one would bat an eye.
If you think something's okay for one sex or a cultural/racial/religious group but not another; you need to check yourself. Unfortunately, this requires more self awareness than anti-white's are capable of.
How long will this last? As we know, our cities once were great and now have been trashed. As the good is forced to move by evil, light turns to darkness. Soon there will be nothing left. Where will evil go then.... Orania, perhaps?
Oranja is a town for people who believe that having electricity 🤣 is good 👍
Witman het SA opgebou. Swartman het SA afgebreek. Verstaan?... Mooi.
Neem krediet vir wat jy met jou eie hande vermag. Nie wat ander vermag het nie. Nie wat jy deur ander vermag het nie.
@@gemaskerdeskedel5040, as jy hier reken die swartman het met sy hande gebou . Hoekom het hy dit opgemoer met sy eie hande ? Dis soos n hond wat omdraai en sy eie braaksel vreet .
Nee , die swartman se probleem is hy het alles op n skinkbord verniet gekry . As jy jou eie mense verbrand met buitebande en ander maniere om ander se goed te kry , moet jy weet daar sal geen seën oor jou uitgestort word maar vernietiging .
Respect ,it their choice ,i wish them all the best as i believe they can only prosper,well done Orania,
The whole community makes sense for the minority of true Afrikaners left in Southern Africa, not unlike the Amish communities and similar all over the world.
my worry is, will Orania be able to defend itself in the future against the likes of a Malema who would not think twice about committing genocide.
No wonder under Afrikaners SA boomed.
Which myths did you bust???
Satan at work, they fake Christianity
who brought apartheid to Africa and more to South Africa, Europeans brought it and implemented it, mostly Dutch people came to South Africa, Verwoed was born in the Netherlands and he started separate development, which Europe turned into the word Apartheid, my forefather came from Germany,,very few Europeans know that about that Europeans moved to Africa and South Africa
South Africa is not as simple as that. You will find many surprises if you start digging for the truth.
Actually the greatest mistake South Africa made was to coin the term "Apartheid". Segregation has been around for ages. Yes our forefathers were from mostly European countries so it could be grounded to think there was an influence. As Afrikaners we might have European roots but we have an identity that is uniquely our own. My forefathers were from Germany (Lotz) but we had English, French, Dutch, German settlers and others I believe. As an Afrikaner it is interesting to note that we have the youngest language in the world and Orania wants to protect that unique identity, language and other cultural aspects. The current government wants to wipe out the Afrikaner identity and yet when they seek to preserve their culture it is seen as threatening.
So the only workable solution is only one couler in the rainbow.
Without a doubt.
The way i see it, its more a developed culture, that know what to prioritize, and has a history of innovation. They just happen to be of a certain ethnicity. Over another larger group who is still behind the times, and under developed as a people in every way. If i had to choose where to live id live and work with people who get on with it, and who are able to build a better life for all over a primitive population that thinks its entitled and doesnt need to do anything but live off the necks of others.
@@melon9680 Well said 👍
@@melon9680These people are VERY capable and practice temperance. They HAVE to be very selective.
And yes DNA plays a big role whether anyone wants to admit it or not. ( Their hardwiring.)
Ignorant people saying it's a "White's only" place. I would like to live in a Orania South Africa🤞🏽
Kibutzim
The background sound irritates me
Just goes to show, federalism is possible. We should do the same without a whites only label.
Orlando..ever thought Why it works so well label included
Label or not its obvious who are the more developed people and who arnt.
"We should do the same without a whites only label" put a Da Silva (Portuguese) not a whites-only label to it and it will definitely work.
@@nedor64 Oh hell no. The pigs countries are even worse than SA.
Portugal Italy Greece Spain
Bad quality sound
The Afrikaans Language originated from the Cape Malays who were slaves brought over from Malaysia by the Dutch.
Many Afrikaans words have their origin from the Cape Malay Slaves such as the word "baie" which you don't find in Dutch.
The Taal Monument in Paarl also openly acknowledges that the Afrikaans Language and culture originated from the Cape Malay Slaves which was known as the "kombuis Taal" or "kitchen language" spoken by the Slaves working in the kitchens of their Masters.
Furthermore the first printed or published form of Afrikaans was found in the Forward of a copy of the Quaran.
Thus will Carl Boshoff or Orania accept a fully Afrikaans speaking Christian Coloured person who identifies and whose forefathers are rooted in the Afrikaans tradition and culture?
The hypothetical scenario is often raised, but the fact of the matter is that in the 30 years of its existence it never happened. Dont get me wrong, since the 90's I always maintained that I'd rather associate with someone who thinks like me than just someone who looks like me. But the fact of the matter is, there seems to be a recognition on both sides that we are two distinct cultural groups, and attempts in the past to forge a united "Afrikaanses" identity failed. At the end of the day, people will associate with whom they wish to associate with. As soon if you have to force something, be it seperation or integration, you are playing with fire.
@@Hannodb1961
I accept that but this is not the argument which Carl Boshoff is making.
He proposes that if a person from Austria, by way of example, associates and identifies himself with the Afrikaner Volk, then such a person would be accepted within the Orania Community.
The simple question is, will Orania on the same principle accept an Afrikaans speaking Christian Coloured person whose forefathers were essentially the originators of the Afrikaans Language and the very culture which Orania strives to maintain, unlike the hypothetical Austrian?
An Afrikaans speaking Christian Coloured person has far more in common with the Orania Community than that of an Austrian, the only difference being is the colour of their skin.
Whether an Afrikaans speaking Christian Coloured person would want to be part of such a community is a different matter.
The is simple question is whether such a person would be permitted to be part of such a community or not?
@@mosesmanaka8109 I can only speak for myself, ofcause. I am a member of the Orania movement, and I have a lot of money imvested there. I have frequently visited the town, I have spoken to the leadership often, they know me, and I have expressed my views on this: Like I said, similar thoughts is more important to me than similar looks. They did not express any objection to my way of thinking. Ofcause, I suppose you'll have people living there who thinks otherwise, but I do believe there are also people who hold to my view.
But until it actually happens, I guess its mostly speculation as to what would happen.
@@Hannodb1961
I respect your view. Wishing you all the best 🙂👊👍
Moses, you in short do not understand where, and how Afrikaans originated. Just because Afrikaans was first written buy another group, does not mean they tabled the language.
Afrikaans has its origin in the Dutch root. This makes sense, as the Dutch were the dominant, and settled group, before the arrival of the Germans and the French.
Why were the Germans here? Good question, glad you asked!
As the Cape settlement was " NOT " a Dutch colony, ( As is falsely surmised most of the time. ) but rather a halfway filling station, meant to resupply the " Dutch East Indian Company ", the biggest commercial entity of its time, the Dutch Kingdom was not at liberty to set up a garrison for the protection of the people, farmers and buildings, that were at the mercy of not so friendly hostile sea fairing country's, and hostile tribes in the vicinity.
Thus, the DEIC, had to hire garisons of Prussian / German mercenaries for their protection, thus, where my Ancestors originated from. Later, the Protestant French Hugenotes, arrived, after being persecuted for their faith, by the Catholics in France.
Thus, the three main contributing languages, to the Afrikaans language are Dutch, German and French. However, there are a " Loan Words " taken from Xhosa, Koi, Maylay and Portuguese, to name a few, that further enhanced our Language, that we are very proud of.
Now, Flemish, spoken by non French Belgians, is the language closest related to Afrikaans, and not Dutch, when speaking, and hearing the two languages interact with one another. I can speak out of personal experience, as I have been to both countries, and worked with both nationalities extensively over the last 20 years. The Dutch don't even understand their Flemish brothers, and need subtitles, when watching Flemish broadcasts.
I can easily converse with Flemish in Afrikaans, but I have to resort to English when conversing with a Dutchman.
Afrikaans is recognised as the only Germanic language to have it's existence outside of Europe, because of the strong Dutch and German influence.
So, then why was Afrikaans not written by the " Afrikaner " then? Another brilliant question, and a question I am eager to answer.
As Dutch was the language in the cape, because of the predominant Dutch population, all other nationalities had to speak it, due to it's commercial value. The cape was a trading post, and Dutch was it's commercial language. Dutch was spoken on the farms that supplied the shipping industry, as well as the settlement, and of course the fishermen etc.
But, as all languages do, they evolve. ( No language spoken now, is exactly the same asbit was spoken and written even 100 years ago. )Thus the degrading term, kitchen Dutch used by the then English, and arrogant Dutch from Holland, referred to our " New Native " language, Afrikaans. The English wanted the hole of Africa under the Union Jack, and the Dutch considered their cousins in the south as barbaric, and simple, for not wanting to be proudly Dutch.
The thing is, we were never Dutch, and like the English settlers in America became Americans, ( Meaning from America ) and the English Settlers in Australia became Australians,m( Meaning from Australia ), we became Afrikaners, ( Meaning from Africa ).
But, unnlike our Muslim countrymen, the Afrikaner was slow to change, and still had church services held in " Hoog Hollands ", and schooling taught in Dutch, though the spoken language, Afrikaans was by the our " Official Spoken Language ".
Only after the second Anglo Boer war, did Afrikaans Nationalism come to light, with the drive for an " Own " Language.
I hope you found this bit of our history insightful, and informative.
I have a simple question. What happens when a bus load of blacks come to Orange and want to stay over a night or two. What if some of them ask for employment? Do the Oranje police or residents force them out of town?
Well theyd have to be aware beforehand about Oranje and its policy. I don't think you can just rock up there without screening. But i cant remember anymore but id guess the answer is, theyd not permit said bus to stay. Part of keeping a town crime free is to not permit people to wonder in all willy nilly, doesn't matter who they are.
It is unlikely that will be real scenario. There are a large towns near to Orania where busses are more likely to stop. This is not really a tourist spot.
@@melon9680 So they have sentries guarding the entrance to the town? Thought I read somewhere that they have a hotel or guest house. So who stays over at these if not out of towner’s and are these vetted, by whom and where does one apply for permission to check into a hotel. I also read that single mothers turn up looking for help ie a job in return for accommodation. Any single black mothers afforded the same? Let’s just call a spade a spade, it’s for die hard racists.
@@tearyb But you dont see a single white person in predominantly black areas. Of course you wont because of cultural differences. People who dont know each other dont communicate well. Plus no white person wants to live in townships and such because they of course would be victim to constant racism from black people. You know nothing of Oranje and as do i, but i do know, it that it exists for minorities to be among their own without having to deal with the governments bigotry and corruption. Because if it hasnt occurred to you, it wasnt minorities who turned this country into a shithole, but are still blamed and marginalized for the majority's lack of taking responsibility for their petty shit.
Hence minorities dont actually want to mix in with much of thr majority because nobody wants to put up with tantrum throwing victims, who call racism toward every fking breath a white man takes. I bet if it were an indian, Chinese, or Black town, you and nobody else would even come close to hinting the word racism. Fk me even Germans dont get any shit for WW2 and the millions they killed, but let a white South African man so much as fart, the majority bitch and moan about it.
And i can tell you after putting up with 30 years of the majority's petty bullshit and standardless stagnated existence, its only natural for the most devolved people to break off and get away from all this bullshit that is otherwise destroying this country. And we couldnt give a flying fk what we are called, simply that as per usual, it is we who move forward. Racism doesnt put food on the table, minorities know that better than anyone. You clearly didn't have a clue because you assume like much of the majority we are fking stupid.
To me they are like children who think they can tell the adults how the world works. Black people are allowed to do exactly the same as Oranje. Baring they can actually be progressive for once. At least Oranje is moveing forward, what is the majority doing other than being an economical burden?
@@tearyb, private property, private hotel, I guess they can do what they want, who do you think you are to impose yourself on them?
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As to the origins, it is important to remember that they didn’t spring up out of the ground, thee Town was originally created and owned by the Department of Water affairs, the heavily dilapidated town was purchased by Orania Bestuursdienste in 1990 for R15 million. In 1991, the approximately 500 black and coloured residents were evicted by force by DWA and resettled in Warrenton. By 1998 a further R15 million had been invested to repair the dilapidated infrastructure.
Also, fun fact: Cartel’s father in law was well known Hendrick Verwoerd.
Carel ( jnr.- in the interview ) was the son of prof CWH ( Carel ) Boshoff , professor in theology at UP ( Tuks ). Carel snr was the son in law of dr Hendrik Verwoerd
@@hendriksmit2069 thank you for the clarification
I'm not sure about the 500 odd "evictions" part? The farm was owned by the state. The "residents" were employees of the department of water affairs and other contractors. As such the three "town's" were contractors camps. Nobody was evicted! They were asked to leave! Hell they weren't even Tennant's let alone property owners.
This is the type of South Africa Verwoerd wanted to create.
What a lot of absolute bullshit Graham McTaggart.
So it’s a white only town
So... there is basically zero crime, no money from government, no begging or demanding or looting.
Looks fantastic right?
Yes it is..not all these bs about "shared culture"
Personal view, Orania is an exclusive elite "Afrikaans" community unwilling to help Afrikaaners less fortunate than themselves.
How much of a help can you be without money, jobs and infrastructure ? The basics is to start businesses to be able to give people the opportunity to work and to be able to do that you need Businessmen to go in first. Many Voortrekker leaders were Businessmen....
How long have you been in South Africa? The lesson learnt over many generations is that your helping hand gets consumed with the rest of your body! Thus your good deed leads to your demise.
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Actually Orania has a place for single adults who arrive with nothing and try to see how they can get some training in skills, rehabilitation and meals. The main thing is that the people who go there are willing to work.
The place for single men is called 'Elim' house. There is also a place for single mothers who arrive with nothing.
@@christofferraby4712Indeed. Even if you were to arrive there with nothing! They will take you in. Give you a job, feed and accomodate you. As long as you pull your weight and actually work. It will be hard labour type work with either the municipality or on a farm. But at least it's work.
Thanks guys for the interesting interview. I have been fascinated with Orania for many years, it is incredible what they have achieved and created in the last 25+ years simply the future that we all should be striving for. Independance from the Government and self reliance, building their future working with each other and together for a better, brighter future. What an opportunity it would be to live and help build the future for our people
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