Salute to the lady for hustling hard out there. She's a bus driver, runs a food stand & contributes to the radio station giving recipe tips sometimes at the beginning or end of her shift at the bus company. All she wants to do is make money. Very inspiring to anybody trying to create something against odds.
More people in Sa should watch this video. You get a lot of people complaining about our country and always tell us they would migrate..if its like this out there , is it worth it? I dnt think so.
As a expatriate South African of thirty odd years my advice to all immigrants is to start life all over again in a small town and grow with the town, my wife arrived here two years ahead of me and was adopted by the small town folk who made it easy for us to adapt after coming from a big city, good luck and Welkom.
I've met and deal with ex pat South Africans on a regular basis for at least 30 years in business and sport, most are wealthy and white and despite the attempts at integration and acceptance of the Maori culture there are always undertones of racism in what they say about "back home" in terms of politics, other things like gardeners and cleaners are soooo expensive here
Its true. The South African who emigrate are usually the ones who are colonialist in thinking. And I'm glad that they're leaving because the rest of South Africa can integrate & build together.
We immigrated from the Eastern Cape. We are in our seventies and have not struggled to integrate at all. Best decision of our lives. The only advice we would give is this: when you leave South Africa, LEAVE IT BEHIND YOU and embrace your new country's culture. We love NZ, have no criticisms. We cannot wait to become full citizens. Thank you Aotearoa for allowing us to come into this beautiful land!
@@emmanuelbediako7682 you clearly a moron.. aborigines are from Australia not Nz. Go educate yourself an empower yourself an stop blaming others for you downfalls…
@@emmanuelbediako7682 please post your legal evidence of these particular families being responsible for terrorism. The TRC is still doing this off you go..
They weren't as hard working in South Africa. They're doing jobs in New Zealand that they wouldn't have touched in South Africa. It's glorious to see the racists struggling
Oh that remark most definately sounds as if it comes from Dunedin the home WHITE EXTREMISM in Aotearoa New Zealand. Gotta watch your racist fat mouth Hone the GCSB is watching and waiting for you and yours to rear your ugly heads...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...HEHEHEEHEEHEHE. About time it did too.
@@Thomas2Chill i am a coloured and yet now they make more than you ever will i have a white friend who moved to austrailia and he doesent struggle he gets paid 3 times as much as he did here and i dont mean more if you take the dollar next to the rand i am thinking of moving to you black racist are getting on everyones nerve coloured white indian and all
I am Maori, my wife is South African and my kids were born in Australia (I've got the Tri-Nations at my place lol). I have been to South Africa many times and I have found the people very friendly, even when I rag them about the All Blacks. They are a very staunch, proud people with a long history and now many feel displaced since the fall of apartheid. They're still trying to find their place in the world and it hasn't been easy for them. Patience on both sides is called for...patience and understanding. I love South Africans...especially during rugby season lol
Feel misplaced since they stopped killing and oppressing Africans and forceful taking their land and resources , huh, so pathetic and disgusting , how can someone be upset because their opportunity to do evil was taken away?
south african will never adaop,because they cannot believe that they have fallen,or that their great empire they own in south africa has fallen.while in south africa,they lived like kings and queens,they were always on top of the world,and now they have to struggle to adapt somewhere.what you sow is what you reap.
Wooly Zizi when you have personally experienced the horrors of lived in South Africa, you will have the right to make comments like this. The white people who did well there were those that studied, understood business, worked hard to make a decent income and invested wisely. Since the takeover of South Africa by black leaders, the country has fallen because the Communist driven, extremely corrupt ANC government have plundered everything they can. South Africa Airways has gone into liquidation while it's managers paid themselves millions! Municipalities have gone bankrupt. Hospitals are in serious financial difficulties. ESKOM (Electricity supply) is bankrupted. The list is endless. The government racist BEE (black economic empowerment) has all but blocked whites from getting jobs. As a result, the standards of life has plummeted. Crime of all kinds is completely out of control, the police are constantly being caught for corruption and in some parts of the country unemployment is as high as 90%. Farmers are being murdered daily and corrupt president Ramaphosa says its not happening. Apartheid ended many years ago and the 'majority' now run the show. They have had ample time and opportunity to build the country into a successful nation but they have failed dismally. The results speak for themselves. You go live there for a year and you will see for yourself that what is happening there has nothing to do with apartheid or white rule but everything to do with ignorance, low productivity and creeping Communism. Then you can comment in all honesty. And if you are an ex-South African living in NZ, I'd ask why did you not stay there?
This was our life,I started my own auto workshop,was well supported by some wonderful kiwis, just remember life does not carry on where it left off in RSA, have been gone since 96 now in Australia, but thank you NZ still love you guys
As a pacific islander, the South Africans I've met have been awesome and I am yet to meet one that has a problem integrating. There are bad apples in every community.
Your last sentence speaks volumes Beaz. The ignorance and racism on this thread is, I suppose ironically, astounding. I wonder if all the bigots posting here claim to be conscious and aware and democratic in their spare time.
The homosexual who is complaining is lashing out because he fears them and their ethnic unity. Notice that he’d never utter a complaint to any non-Europeans that behave in the cohesive manners that the Afrikaners do.
In my N.Z. workplace some White Sth Africans considered Maori racially inferior. Many were ex-cops and wouldn't cut the mustard as cops in N.Z. and were accustomed to being Inspectors in S.A. but were merely on the bottom rung in N.Z. They often arrogant pricks who were keen on assaulting other staff and "clients," and sparks would fly if a more senior Maori officer would give orders to an ex-cop Jaape.
The irony of those women singing in Nguni languages when most don't deal with Africans in a real way in RSA is laughable. Sing Die Stem and get over it.
I thought i was the only one who noticed, the culture they take on is other people's culture but they don't want to deal with the people. Intresting indeed
I have no idea why South Africans are moving to NZ! Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!! I am South African and I'm committed to staying in my country and being part of the solution rather than part of the problem. I'm helping my African employees get their kids through school and college.....if I were to leave...who would help them? Certainly not our corrupt government! I am needed in this flawed country I call home!
If I got burgled three times in a row and got part of my family murdered, I wouldn't have stayed one second in whatever was my home country. I'd get the hell out of there. I understand them. Living with that kind of heavy security and worry all the time, is no way to live. Also I can't see any political solution to what South Africa is facing today. When wealth is as strongly divided by ethnicity it is very hard to avoid populist politics ruling the day in any country. That will lead to bad government. South Africa is not alone in this. You see the same in South America where they jump from one populist government to another, never getting society on the right track. I am sure things will work out in the end. I just don't think it will happen in a generation, which is what will matter for most people.
I was born in NZ and I've met so many nice South Africans in my life. Basically all of the good science teachers at my schools were SA too. I hope they are all going well.
I love how this documentary is just sharing the experiences good and bad honestly. No agenda like our 2018 world :) Would be great if they can do a follow up now a few years later :)
Thank you chandre. I can't quite believe how much hate-speak and sheer ignorance finds its way to this page. I'd love to do a follow up. But don't work for Carte blanche anymore.
@@stikupartist3698 you have no idea what your talking about. People have listen to media controlled by people who want to paint the Afrikaner as all bad. But what people fail to realize is that a large amount of Afrikaners apposed Apartheid. People are not their governments
They are in a foreign land and now want to speak afrikaans there.They must speak English! Not long they will want afrikaans only schools and .Infact they have already started waving SA flag.Later it will be the Vierkleur flag!
Go to another country, embrace, respect, their culture. Not hard to understand eh? You don't come to another country and push your ways and will on their people. Integrate or go home. This is exactly why we are having problems in every damn country. Bloody hell, this pisses me the heck off.
Good on them for finding peace and happiness. I'll never leave though, regardless of what happens here. This is my country, you know? It's worse in some other countries, better in others. God bless them and the people who welcome them.
@@angryblackman857 Why not? I'm assuming you think I'm white based off my name. Well mate, that's a pseudonym. I'm black as can be. Stop being hateful. Our white South Africans are just as South African as us non-whites. I'm not a racist black man like you.
zalabeta lefty if you don't want to work don't work go back to socialism and enjoy handouts, don't worry jacinda will look after you Racism coming out much
What are you on about? I’m an ACT voter. Socialism has got nothing to do with his comment nor racism. He just recognised a national trait. South Africans are generally assertive (some perceive as arrogant) and it can rub us native born the wrong way. Its not some big or foundational criticism. Its just an observation. Geez so sensitive is that also a national trait of SA?
Yes i heard that....lol. In new zeal and australia Theres what they call tall poppy syndrome and south africans like being tall poppies😂 which explains the assertive nature bcs to become a tall poppy takes firmness to get stuff done and fast
@@jgribhamnz its not a national trait. its dutch descendants who identify As south Africans that have an attitude towards what they don't know. very intolerant
People struggle in every society when coming from a foreign countries and usually move among people that share their language and values. That hairdresser just explained a typical American city.
What is it about many South Africans "Afrikaners in particular" always ending up being hated by people in their host countries? Seriously this extends from England to New Zealand to Argentina, and everytime i get complaints about South Africans it's almost always a racist Afrikaner starting shit. Now i'm not saying this extends to all South Africans, or all Afrikaners for that matter, i'm just speaking out based on experience and the constant complaints i'm usually bombarded with.
I hear you Dawood, and thank you for not generalizing. Among those that fled were certain, racist and arrogant types, and they hopefully will learn and change their thinking. I'm convinced most will, through immersion in a non-racial society - it's inevitable.
It's funny how life is so tough for them outside South Africa, yet they complain about everything when they are in South Africa. They must all leave our country and leave us in peace. Expropriation of Land without compensation
It's no different to Zimbabwean academics who moved to South Africa and ended up selling fruit in the streets because they couldn't find jobs. They've also become like Somalians and Ethiopians who own little shops downtown.They went from comfortable upper class lifestyles in South Africa to lower middle class living from paycheck to paycheck.
Shem I felt sorry for the lady who was so happy she got a job as a bus driver. It's very rare to see a white south African working as a bus driver in South Africa.
I've had the worst Afrikaner experiences here in SA .... you have no idea of their arrogance.... I can't believe they take it with them when they love this country...
Marko Marko. Us older geezers remember that around 1970 when we were ready to have kids, the "experts" were telling us that it was "irresponsible" to have more than two children. If we had more than two children, we would use up all the available resources. So could this have been a strategic damping down of white birth rates, as a way of implementing the Kalergi Plan? So that the Turks, a temporarily secular, semi-westernized nation could re-infiltrate the eastern end of Europe, because Germany especially was running out of men due to WW II. Re-infiltrate just as the Ottomans did in the 1600's, except more stealthily. Europe, always the cheapskate, is now pumping a shitload of money (collected from working taxpayers) into the Muslim and African hordes. Unemployable, illiterate, useful only to disrupt civilization and create chaos, just like Kalergi planned. Your thoughts, please.
As someone with Afrikaaner connections, it is clear that refugee status IS NOT the answer. A mass exodus of white Africaaners IS NOT the solution. It is totally impractical & dangerous. The best solution is for an independent Western Cape - the Cape Republic. ANC admitted that if a referendum was held the people would support it. The future of South Africa is autonamy among ethnic & tribal lines, i.e. KwaZulu-Natalia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc.
Its sad! I watch a guy named BI on youtube who goes around feeding the poor. Its a blessing to have him but what about the rest of the starving country. If only the government made it affordable to live in S.A than crime wouldn't be so high! Giving my prayers & blessings from *Auckland City*
He’s a very compassionate person among a huge country with a lot of heartless psychopaths who crave things and will get them any way they can. That’s what’s unfortunate about that country which could be a world powerhouse if the right people were in charge.
I'm Aussie when I leave my Country I leave to get away from the culture, people and the way of life. Its exciting taking up new languages, playing different sports and just taking in the ways of the locals, when I see Australians abroad I just don't want anything to do with them. When emigrating to another Country leave your old life in your old Country as living your old life in your new Country is a recipe for misery.
I love the way the one ‘poppie’ says that her biggest issue is getting shoes. Maybe she must not go to Payless. Lovely that the bus driver lady opened a ‘tuisnywerheid’.
if you emigrate looking back over your shoulder, you'll never settle in your new home. I say this as an English expat: it took me 27 years (and counting) to realise it.
I know a south African elderly man who we worked in the same company in Auckland. He is a very decent gentleman but once I have said: 'Was that so bad in S.A?' His eyes were like fireballs and became furious.... I know he has no offence intention to me as a asian man. But I could learn his past was creepy or even horrible stories he has experienced when he was young and being a soldier. He lost everything in S.A. fled to this country to spend the rest of his life, may God bless this man.
@@sandraobrien8705 Yeah let's keep letting others into the country and housing all of them before our own right?? Keep parents who both work full time jobs living in their cars WITH THEIR CHILDREN right?...WHILE PEOPLE JUST FLY ON IN AND GET RENTALS WITH EASE right?..This is why you do not speak for all NewZealanders. It's easy to sit there with a roof over your head saying "yeah sure your welcome in our lovely country! 🙂🙂🙂 fly more people into the country its no problem!"..while people out here are 2nd priority to people who just got off a plane ffs. There's over 4000 people living in motels and its safe to say i speak for more NZ's than you and you fkn know it!
@@NZSUBZERO The truth is the housing market is out of control and rental market is dire, I think that is something immigrants are not always aware of. There are not enough houses to go round, a lot of homes on the market are single glazed, mouldy, poorly insulated and should have been pulled down 20 years ago, yet prices are through the roof. These days a lot of homes go under the hammer with auctions won by overseas buyers at astronomical inflated prices which do not reflect NZ wages or the condition of the properties. It is difficult to get on the property ladder, also as a new immigrant, if you cannot bring a hefty down payment with you. New homes are constantly being built but cannot keep up with demand. Something else immigrants are probably not told at embassy info evenings is what it is like to rent here. Typically you need to apply online with 2 references and of course they prefer NZ references. It can be hard to get a good place with a responsible landlord/property agent. They are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. Expect to pay a lot for a modern build with double glazing and heatpump, in particular in Wgtn or Akl.Auckland prices are through the roof. Renting is tough, for the most part you cannot keep pets. You may get the home filthy with an overgrown, unkempt garden but have to leave it thoroughly cleaned, garden weeded and maintained.You have an inspection 4x year where the property agent photographs every room, the garage, exterior of the house. They want everything clean and tidy, lawns mowed, garden weeded eyc. It is very intrusive. You can find yourself without a home at short notice. The renter has little protection. The law entirely favours the landlord and many Kiwis have multiple houses as investments which they do not maintain or fix. Repairs are often not carried out. The law changed recently such that you are now permitted to hang up pictures but unlike other countries, you are not encouraged to think of a rental property as your home, there is next to no security that you can stay there longer term, there is little you can do to get a landlord to fix anything that needs repairs and the landlord can enter your rental anytime after giving 48 hours notice. I've lived in many countries and nowhere had such awful conditions for the renter. So it pays to keep all that in mind when weighing up a move.
@@sandraobrien8705 I agree with alot of what you said Sandra and I apologize for the language and how I came aross. It just pisses me off that there are so many hard working kiwi's out there that are pushed to the side (alot of slack bludgers in the mix aswell) The house next to me was up for rent and put in trademe 6months ago. An Indian couple got the rental over the 1700 people in hawkesbay camped up in motels. I get along with my new neighbors and they are good people but the fact of the matter is...it should be the other way around, that's all I'm saying 🤷🏻♂
I've gone to school and worked with a few South Africans. Both Afrikaans and English descent. They were all good folks, got along with the Maori and islanders just fine. One thing to note. They had all left South Africa because of the crime. The school age ones were amazed when they arrived that you could walk down the street by yourself in daylight or at all after dark, let alone by yourself after dark! You just didn't do that where they lived. Yes they did look sideways at our darker skinned people when they arrived, which I think is understandable, given their experiences. But they came around pretty soon. Rugby had a lot to do with that. Gave people a common interest in which to get to know each other.
Welcome to my country Aotearoa New Zealand from a Maori if you're hearts in the right place and love us we well love you back even more that is the way we Maori are take care bye
I'm a kiwi samoan I'm bless to have South African friends. They are very relatable and friendly people. Mad on rugby and cricket will only support nz if not playing against the motherland. Love listening to their accent and the coolest thing we all go to church , this is more I could say about the majority of my friends. Welcome to Aotearoa.
@NXM twisted history you only saw Khoi sans in the Western side but Eastern side there was always people like Nguni's Ndebele's Zulu's Xhosa's Swati's Northern Side Sotho's Nguni's have a lil bit of Khoi words and you are 100% European nothing African about you.
"they tend to cluster together" :-) yup there is some truth to that. But part of it is that any immigrant to a new home settles where they land, and newcomers are uncertain of what to expect so seek out ex-Saffers, and that becomes habitual. (We consciously sought to settle where we were not in a Saffer community, but chose wisely and many followed us instead.) So few folk have been shot at outside of ZA, so we are commonly a little traumatised and find solace in mutual understanding. I am so 'bleery' happy that I have not had anyone shoot at me in the last 13 years. Auckland is home, it is truly where my heart is. (And my wife who survived the stress of immigrating here with me is still my soulmate.)
poor migrant cluster cos they r different lloking, insecure. but givnen s african r same europaen stock of people, there is no need. look wehere they r they want to be seprate? and in charge?
The society and language in Holland is too different from what they are used to. New Zealand is a closer match and easier to move to. Most South Africans are fluent in English and New Zealand has a very good reputation in South Africa... that's what I think anyways...
@@shameel2625 False information. ALL OF Indians left Uganda to return to India. Over 3000 South African Indian businessmen left for India while the professional technical Indian engineers left for Australia, the middle East (Gulf) and Canada.
I remember moving to the US over 30 years ago. Got to speak to a fellow white Zimbabwean on the phone. He invited my husband and I to his house, but almost died of heart failure when he discovered we were of mixed race.😄😄😄 His loss though, we could have helped him and his wife out in so many ways. They need to learn, that people live together in harmony abroad.
🤣🤣 Omd I’m not surprised. They’re used to people of colour being they’re workers etc Getting help from them is like the worst thing they can ever imagine
Ironically... I was born in then Rhodesia (Salisbury) til 4 years old then my parents moved to Lusaka (Zambia - then Northern Rhodesia)... And loved the local Indigeny and highly respected all from different tribal groups... Down to SA in 1961 - learnt Afrikaans and suffered through dreaded Apartheid thuggery... My one niece is married to an isiXhosa who we all adore and they have two children... My parents instilled a non-prejudicial, respectful attitude into all of us... South Africa is going through a tough time due to corrupt politicians... Sadly locals are not being catered to but life is definitely more equal now and improving somewhat... POLITICIANS... Like BABIES NAPPIES must be changed REGULARLY AND FOR the SAME REASON...
I've met heaps of South Africans here in Australia and for the most part have always got along fine with them. They do have a forward and almost abrupt communication style which differs from that of the average Aussie, Kiwi or American for that matter
As a Norwegian I understand what this means. Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans are more direct and matter of factly. There is less beating about the bush. I think it is also severely misunderstood by most anglo-saxons. They interpret it often as a form of rudeness or arrogance. I've listened to people of different origin complain about dutch behavior in the Netherlands, while they did not realize my culture was exactly the same. So I got an insight into how foreigners view the germanic behavior. I must say in general it is very misunderstood. People assume entirely different intentions by germanic people than what was actually their intention. It is a bit arrogant of anglo-saxons I think to assume that just because you are white, you must perceive the world the same way as them. Somehow they seem to have less issues with say Chinese, Japanese or Indians behaving entirely different.
That's called arrogance i have met some nice SAFs (white), they have come to Nz as they should to start a new life not ram their racist shit down our throats! Fuck No!!
I am a south-african married to a austrian, when we came to live in austria permanantly, my husband had a more difficult time than me. My children (german speaking) hated the chance, the only one that loved it was me, I could go and have piano lessons,singing lessons, and go and have coffee in a palace, see art exibitions- I think it depends on a person, I basicly had to pull everyone allong. Hope you really try hard to be happy, its not so difficult, loves and hugs.
My dear unknown friend, reading what you wrote is so refreshing, a lovely change from all the negative crap I have read so far from folk who really have no idea what it is like to rearrange ones life in a new place.. Yes it does take two to Tango, but then again, you can dance with your imagination, the partner with you till death xxxx
@Soso Mama Its always dfificult in the beginning, its a new way of living, there is so many things you could do here that is not possible in south-africa. I wish you good luck.
honestly life is the same everywhere if you see it in contact of the universe. does it really matter if you know that your life is in the hand of nature. we are just stupid pretenders. best is to treat everybody equally with love and understanding. at the end day we should all know that no one is exceptional in the universe. like the simple bacteria like complex life (including humans). we are just event of nature. there is no God but nature.
I can relate to this I was born in the UK but left when I was 2 years old and spent 18 years living in South Africa. We are now back in the UK and I miss the South African culture very much. South Africa has a magic which is very hard to leave behind . There are a lot of South Africans here in the UK now and a lot of South African shops so we can still get our SA fixes . There are also a lot of SA events we can go to just to bring that South African magic back once in awhile.
Have no problem with sth Africans migrating to my country.. both love rugby, have nice looking woman lol (we need some trust me )👌🏽 as long as you integrate and not try build your own SA here
Lol that's exactly what they plan on doing. SA flags, SA branded shops and they want to only live amongst themselves. This sounds way toooo familiar! Luckily the ones on this video clip aren't branding their shops with old apartheid flags.
But they don't integrate they think for some disillusioned reason they are superior and form there own Saffa Colonys in Brown's Bay etc. It's so obvious they just want to bail from the nightmare they created in their own shit hole of a country. I'm not buying it one bit.
So many South Africans are in my country New Zealand and yet they create their own districts and stick together... You’re in New Zealand now... we don’t like any of that here.
yeah hard. these south african boys rocked up to me n my tongan mate, just trynna staunch us. just got fed up then smashed them. ma tongan mate was going full hundy at them. telling them to fuck off back to their country
These are not South African expects these are migrating Dutch that once lived in South Africa who have migrated to New Zealand. I absolutely hate the way they continue to labor themselves in order to gain sympathy when right down the road from New Zealand Australia sits where the migrating Dutch Kane destroyed rate stole the land renamed it and rename them
I'm a 3rd generation white NZer and invariably find the Sth Africans that have moved here are a breath of fresh air ! They have a no nonsense way of looking at things , are grateful to be here , work hard and some humble themselves in occupations that they would never have done in Sth Africa . I wish them all a good future here in Aotearoa ....🐬
Very ironic. I know of hundred of cape coloureds who left for New Zeeland under Apartheid.They all did well. But are they invisible their too.If not then why don't you interview them Theirs lots of Brown Capetownians there since the sixties.
Heidi don't be stupid and gullible this is a lefty liberal subversive video don't you get it? they are not these immigrants friends they are running them down on the side get it duh ZZZzzz lefties aren't the brightest
Us South Africans are bit arrogant, but it's because we're big fish in a small pond, but it's innocuous mostly. We're also very independent and entrepreneurial.
@@zororondigger3778 Actually, if you do some research, you will find that apartheid was a Sunday school picnic compared to life in any other country on the African continent. There is a very long list of violent African dictators, from Austria to Auckland, many of whom committed some of the worst violations of human rights known to mankind.
6:58 'notice how the white guy said 'that house is a maori, that house is a samoan, that house is a white new zealander, that house is a chinese'. oh, ok so if you're white, you dont refer to yourselves as european but a new zealander???
I'm a kiwi live abroad was horrified at the sheer number of South Africans in NZ when visiting home, north shore lost for words , South Africans cluster and large dominating groups don't really assimilate well, they complain a lot about nz. Freeze out kiwis . Not very independent South Africans.
South Africans are such a great people, their enterprising spirit and Love of Liberty bring countless benefits to any Country they chose to live in and contribute to!
@@iskaykabeya609 Thats exactly what many blacks say about their own kind in government, want to see pics of them carrying the posters saying exactly that?
Greetings from Canada. I have a South African friend whose brother back home was murdered in a car jacking. He returns to SA only to visit surviving family, and takes many security precautions when he does. It's sad to see people driven out of their homeland by crime.
Hopefully they don’t come to New Zealand with their apartheid, racist ideologies from South Africa. I hope they treat the brown natives kindly and they integrate into the society properly
If u are a Maori then those white South Africans think of as being just another blackie .If u are white Ihope that u are not as racists as white South Africans
@@sheriffmoola3456 Stop talking kak, and get over yourself. The Maoris are a strong nation, and we South Africans respect them. They also don't play the race card at every opportunity, and they take responsibility. You tend to generalise all white South Africans, and that is ignorance to the full extent. I take it you have personally met each and every white English/Afrikaans speaking South African?
I have never been to South Africa or New Zealand but I do like learning about different countries and different cultures very cool unfortunately I guess immigration is tough no matter where you go
Isn't it obvious? Boers are going through nothing short of a genocide right now and the fact you have to ask "who is they?" speaks volumes regarding how uninformed the rest of the world is on the plight of the white South Africans.
@ I'm still asking who are they? O buwa masepa wena...u have no clue , are u even a south African? What about all the black people who are killed by whites in farms...so dont talk nonsense...u know they feed people to the lions? What about that young boy the farmers shot for stealing oranges? Like shoot a young boy? Fuck u
3:55 its tough to show empathy now knowing fully well that when they had power they showed none. I pray that the mercy they showed the natives be shown back to them
Look at South Africa now. Blacks running the show for 28 years and things are only getting worse. SA is a shithole being run into the ground. Its difficult to not call your opinion stupid, when a black co worker of mine from SA told me he had it better during apartheid compared to now.
"Even though SA is in a critical state, we still operate under the assumption that "it will never happen here". But that's what the Venezuelans thought too. Hearing their story first-hand was a reality check. Because Venezuela's early warning signs are flashing in SA." - Mmusi Maimane - 23 October 2018
@@ayandampolweni17 I believe it has come to pass, as seen with 12 million signing up for a free R350 government unemployment grant which will not be possible to sustain. 99% of Cubans earn R350 per month for working full time.
These are the same people who didnt want to intergrate with the people of their country of birth. What makes you think that will change when moving abroad? Same thing in the UK....they have their afrikaner get togethers and very rarely mix with the british. "A leopard can not change its spots"
Thats how people are, they think and act in clans. Not only an issue for the Boers. All national or groupe feeling is finaly disturbing a full integration. Just name them, all over the world people tend to look for sortwise. The main issue is not that but the willing of immigrants to participate fully in their new country with its new mentality. Many want to do that, some don't and start something completly new like the creation of Orania in SA. As long as they follow the rules of the human rights movement no harm done.
All Dutch/Afrikaans are good people. they are nice people and hearty farmer attitudes i like them very much. Very Understanding of our Culture in New Zealand. they're very respectful my door is always open to them. and im Maori hard.
Here in Germany we have many of them, too. As a convinced and proud Southerner, they are some of the best conversation partners I can imagine, especially when politics is the topic!
@@mazibukomail Starving for unity and nation building. Guess it will never happen. The way I see it there is too much Black and White hatred and this will never go away for generations to come.
@apokalypse 2016 The biggest problem is that White South Africans, because of apartheid could possibly viewed internationally as a White Supremist race of the Ku Klax Klan ideologies. The Suidlanders is a White group in South Africa undergoing training in order to defend farm properties which is believed to be under attack by blacks in South Africa. It is not clear whether the attacks is criminal intent or politically motivated. Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia movement is an international movement. The Suidlanders could possibly be seen connected to this movement by the European community. Therefore i agree with you that it is quite possible that the European world may not want to grant political asylum to White South Africans based on apartheid's White supremist ideologies and the possible link to the Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia terrorists organization. What makes it worst for white South Africans is that Brenton Tarrent the shooter of the Christchurch massacre of Muslims is being investigated to a possible connection to the ALT Right movement. If there is a Suidlanders link to this organization, it is definitely not helping White South Africans internationally Ernst Roets of Afriforum is presently in USA lobbying for support to stop the expropriating of the farms and Simon Roche the leader of the Suidlanders is also there for. I leave that to your imagination.
Its extremely sad that this is happening. It should've never happened. These people should be able to live in their own countries. Free from harm and pain. Overtime, the south African culture will diminish and therefore blend in with the new culture.
I really doubt that. Majority of South Africans still reside in South Africa and take the upkeep of their culture very seriously. We just need to figure out how to keep our diversity alive whilst still integrating.
They have the right to preserve their culture. I’ve polish American friends that are more than 5 generations there but they always celebrate their heritage.
Basically they doing things that were done by blacks in SA. They were bosses here. Ask them what were they doing in SA instead of what they are doing in NZ
We are happy for them... please invite the rest of your families too... dont leave them behind. All the best to New Zealand and the native people there.
Seeing how other whites from other countries can't stand white southafricans is funny, now can you imagine how black South Africans, who deal with them daily feel
@@BeastingOutShorts I think us kiwi may be abit cautious of the Boere until we got to know you personally. The main reason is the Boer run to New Zealand at the fall of Apartheid and no sooner. I know some good Boer but we always hear talk of that Black's did this and that... The reality is that in NZ the sort of talk is considered bad manners, and no I am definitely no sort of Liberal!
@@hanzjensen2154 if genocide is upon you and your family because of the colour of your skin, and your family members is murdered on a daily basis, would you also not flee the place where you are being slaughtered? It is ironic that when asked why you moved from South Africa to NZ, AUS, ENG or wherever the afrikaners are relocating to, and you explain to them the reality what is going on in SA, then that is what you will hear from them. If you have not been to SA, then it is also difficult to understand what the afrikaners are talking about. Afrikaners are respectful people but also honest. You must know that the afrikaners who relocate, leave a lot of their lives behind in the aim just to get to a safe place.
@@BeastingOutShorts I can understand your position but your reality must not change ours! If we let too many people from troubled nations into our country what will become of mine? I would say the same thing about troubled Muslims coming to NZ. Please understand I am a Nationalst and any non western people coming to our country is of concern. You must realise in the 60s - 70s the Maori helped fight the comunist, brothers in arms - tis not a matter of race but Nationalism.
@@hanzjensen2154 i respect your nationalism and patriotism towards your country, because it means you are proud of your country. I have no problem with the Maori, or Aborigine people as I have never had any problems with them, neither have they done me any harm. In fact I always enjoy the "haka" and the passion from the people committed to their traditional culture. Just as you are patriotic about your culture, so are the Afrikaner, but in SA our culture are being attacked and even our language is seen as racist, where the ANC government is removing it from schools, and universities. We value the same things, which is respect for one another.
@@BeastingOutShorts I see, not all Afrkaners are racist. Does the problem the Afrikaans people are experiencing have anything to do with the ANC's governments Marxist ideology and the fact that the vast number of Africans remain uneducated? SA's political system seems to have swung from far right wing to far left at a rapid pace after apartied. Maybe the political system needs to be centralised, possibly in favour of a more nationalised capitalistic type of government that is more well rounded fair and robust for all. It must also be hard for the two races to get on considering the volitle history between the two/races. I understand that the English SA's have also been at odds with the Boere.
I guess afrikaners will always be a racist people. That radio persons said he heard 3 afrikaners making derogatory comments about the kiwis. These afrikaners are still working to keep themselves seperate and apart from the kiwis. Which means they still hold an attitude of apartheid - or white racist superiority. Remember it was the Afrikaners who STARTED the whole apartheid system around 100 years ago. Now they move to NZ to escape the crime - which is a consequence of that racist apartheid system that the afrikaners started. Once in NZ - they stick to their enclaves. I bet they even have gated communities - just to keep themselves seperate. This is how apartheid started. Kiwis - you need to be careful that they do NOT take over the country.
@@zoolander2280 I agree with You 100% Zoo, You know it sad to think of this, as You know in SA there are more liberals than Conservatives, During elections in the past NP (liberals) always win.So actually those who vote for them,they said Yes for this mess and now they run away and they are the ones who complains the most but ooo they vote Yes so actually they against there own!!!!
Shame man, it must be really difficult. Change is good but very difficult... The crime level is a very a very serious concern unfortunately and it's sad to lose good people to that.
As a person who grew up and lived with the afrikaaner most of my life, I will be the first to support the claim that they are indeed a hateful people who deserve all the love they are getting and I consider myself a very liberal person
There are good and ugly people in all cultures - sounds like you had a negative experience. But restricted to how many places...considering you were growing up I'd imagine it wasn't too many? One person's experience of a few people cannot define a nation. What is clearly missing in most comments on this page is 'intellect'. If we earn that, we can then make informed comments - otherwise it's the bile and bigotry someimes heard on talk shows. Q: Who initiated the Dakar talks with the ANC?
Fair enough, but I'll have you know that my experience with them is anything but minimal. A: My understanding is that it was a number of Afrikaaner scholars and academics led by Slabbert. They were however strongly condemned by the majority of the afrikaners for their efforts...but I get your point
Nz prides on Maori heritage...south Africans should know the local culture before thinking of imposing their preconceived notions. They should be grateful to be well received
vukken99 According to Goosen, research at RRL was focused on developing a “bacterial agent that would selectively kill black people.” Goosen stated that the project and the program had been described by South Africa’s then Surgeon General, Dr. Neil Knoble, as “the most important project for the country.” Goosen himself had plenty of faith in the ability to create this type of weapon. In fact, he even claimed that an unknown European scientist had already developed a strain of bacteria capable of “only affecting, making sick, and killing pigmented people” as far back as the early 1980s. “Under oath, Goosen went on to state that the government could have used such a weapon as a ‘negotiation back-up’ (to stay in power) and to ‘maintain peace’ (between local whites and blacks),” writes Singh.
A bit odd how this snip portrays only how a certain segment of the South African population is represented. Perhaps there is a more complete perspective to be had ?
There is no other perspective. The majority of emmigrants have already integrated into society. These people interviewed are already way past their prime and cannot integrate, thats why they are the only perspective. Most people integrate, get on with their lives and enjoy the opportunities of both the host country and the country they left, both of both worlds. Just because you emmigrate does not mean that you cannot go back and do business, when things get bad you then go back, simple.
Mr Clarkson do a video on that I have not heard about that but I know a bunch of people that would subscribe to a channel that did post videos about that
Jasper Stone Chronicles New Zealand is a melting pot. Our Maori people are lovely looking, kind and generous. When white and Maori get together we make beautiful children. Everyone should be of mixed race. A great step to end racism.
its because this is a cultural Marxist lefty liberal abc bbc style lefty agenda fuckup video and its amazing how few people pick it up and its also clear many of these virtue signallers in here are actually racists deep inside trying to come out and succeeding too.
I moved from an English speaking nation to country Australia 1969 when Aust was extremely different than my old home. We made a commitment to stay for min 2 years to give it a go. We knew many people that did the same as us that had gone back within 6 mth refusing to try. One of our neighbours didn't have electricity, hot water was heated on a wood stove, NO TV, NO telephone. Many households even in the closest city didn't have a telephone in their home. There was no fast food places. The only non english food was Chinese. I do NOT know any people that live within 500 km that had the same nationality that started with. We assimilated into Australian society. We LOVE IT !!!!! I have a slight accent still and peoples first guess now is Sth African. I get really angry as I detest the racism of white Sth Africans. I feel sorry for New Zealand having a large influx of White South Africans that bring their racism with them (shown by women in the choir). Neither Australia or New Zealand want or need the racism they bring.
Positive, constructive comment thank you. Having visited Australia a few times, with my best friend living there, I have received good insight into the country. Arrogance of new arrivals is resented, obviously, and adopting and absorbing the local culture is the best way of assimilating and making a positive contribution. The 'when we' approach typical of old Rhodesians in SA is never appreciated.
And yet you have no issue with Australians and their sordid treatment of the aboriginal people. South Africa's ACTUAL history pales in comparison but you sound like a typical ignorant virtue signaling liberal. Very selective about your outrage, aren't you? You're so in love with being an Australian yet the current treatment of non white people held in offshore concentration camps- because that's what they are- doesn't seem to bother you. Hypocrite, thanks for correcting people because I don't want anyone thinking you're South African.
Different topic Ange, but laterally relevant. Here i must confess I did not think of that angle. I was focused on South Africans and their attitude when emigrating. But @@angevdw2887raises a good point re Australia's own history. At a museum in Cairns I saw a b&w, 20th century photograph of white australian 'hunters' with their feet on a pile of aboriginals, as early colonial settlers did throughout Africa with wildlife (and contemp hunters still do today). It was only in 1969 that aboriginals were removed from Australia's Fauna and Flora Act. Says a great deal about the country's DNA regarding race and tolerance. Happily it has been turning.
Wonderful to see so many South Africans thriving in New Zealand. I left South Africa last year and am living in England now. Wherever we Saffas may be it is great to hear news of other Saffas doing well, having a job and decent lifestyle and living in safety. GOD bless you all! ! 😁
After you'll enjoyed apartheid you leave lol Typical weakling
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Chris Clark no sweetie ...we certainly did not mess up the country ......the ANC has messed up the country all on their own . Please don’t blame the white people ...we’ve had nothing to do with the political situation since 1990
....THEIR ancestors, you mean? Yeah, they DEVELOPED South Africa -- made it the beautiful country it became. I suppose that is your attitude towards the Indians of South Africa too -- "they are not Africans." ....And the Coloureds -- who exist because of the sexual relations between Afrikaner and local blacks: "they are not Africans", eh? The Afrikaners are every bit as "African" as any black person will be "European" (i.e. British, French, German, etc.). ....The Afrikaners are every bit as African as we Euro-Americans are "American"!
I have never colonized, nor do I know a colonizer, even less a colony. The majority of Afrikaners despise the idea of colonization. Given these facts, how are we the colonizers? The past happened and had consequences. The consequence of colonization was the settlement of Europeans in South Africa. We should live with these consequences and duly integrate them into a modern, assimilated society. To cling on to nationalistic and vengeful ideas, has never worked for any society. I plead to South Africans, be it black, white, Indian, colored or any other race to not let past injustices done to them, or their ancestors to hinder the way to a beautiful country and free republic.
@@SAHarry past? Every Africaner has a relative who has been murdered. The murders are without exception racial in nature. Do not sit in judgment of a people whose shoes you have not walked in. The nightmarish and horrific conditions in South Africa being visited upon the whites there currently amounts to genocide.
Those Afrikaners ran away cs they killed CHRIS HANI,STEVE BIKO ETC but they are busy crying for their people they think black people don't feel the pain like them
@@patricksweeney5308 NZers of Dutch descent (whose forebears mostly immigrated after WWII, and who are assimilated into the mainstream European NZ culture which is British-based) are not the same as Afrikaners, who have been in South Africa for 400 years and developed their own language and distinct culture over many generations. They're not exclusively of Dutch extraction either - there's also French and German in the mix.
@@cececece5459 How do they feel being married to/befriending fruit? I love Kiwi fruit, but I wouldn' t go as far as marrying it. It must be a very sweet marriage/friendship.
@@cececece5459 yeah. we had this south african boy at our old school, he was extremely nervous so we'd try take him under our wing but felt more comfortable talking to other south africans
I am curous. Why do they sing in Bantu languages? Personally I think Australia is far more suited to white South Africans. They have a far more congruent culture. I'd say Canada and NZ are much of a muchness?
Salute to the lady for hustling hard out there. She's a bus driver, runs a food stand & contributes to the radio station giving recipe tips sometimes at the beginning or end of her shift at the bus company. All she wants to do is make money. Very inspiring to anybody trying to create something against odds.
As a South African Abroad, I can't help but notice that New Zealand looks exactly like the Western Cape, especially topography. Beautiful
You're in God zone country welcome from me Maori from Aotearoa new Zealand
I know right its wired how they look very similar.
Then stay there and do not go back to South Africa again.
@@mountzion2495 No one wants to live there anyway lol
pour ceux qui m'conaissent pas watch your mouth. don’t say such disgusting words.
More people in Sa should watch this video. You get a lot of people complaining about our country and always tell us they would migrate..if its like this out there , is it worth it? I dnt think so.
Couldnt agree more
Well, for humans who dont like much criminality, killing etc is New Zealand a very nice country. But New Zealand is far away from everything.🙃😛😉🙃
As a expatriate South African of thirty odd years my advice to all immigrants is to start life all over again in a small town and grow with the town, my wife arrived here two years ahead of me and was adopted by the small town folk who made it easy for us to adapt after coming from a big city, good luck and Welkom.
I've met and deal with ex pat South Africans on a regular basis for at least 30 years in business and sport, most are wealthy and white and despite the attempts at integration and acceptance of the Maori culture there are always undertones of racism in what they say about "back home" in terms of politics, other things like gardeners and cleaners are soooo expensive here
Its true. The South African who emigrate are usually the ones who are colonialist in thinking. And I'm glad that they're leaving because the rest of South Africa can integrate & build together.
We immigrated from the Eastern Cape. We are in our seventies and have not struggled to integrate at all. Best decision of our lives. The only advice we would give is this: when you leave South Africa, LEAVE IT BEHIND YOU and embrace your new country's culture. We love NZ, have no criticisms. We cannot wait to become full citizens. Thank you Aotearoa for allowing us to come into this beautiful land!
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Don't mistreat the native aborigines like you treated the blacks in S Africa
@@emmanuelbediako7682 BS
@@emmanuelbediako7682 you clearly a moron.. aborigines are from Australia not Nz.
Go educate yourself an empower yourself an stop blaming others for you downfalls…
@@emmanuelbediako7682 please post your legal evidence of these particular families being responsible for terrorism. The TRC is still doing this off you go..
The south Africans look very comfortable in our country..gud on them they very hard working people.
They weren't as hard working in South Africa. They're doing jobs in New Zealand that they wouldn't have touched in South Africa. It's glorious to see the racists struggling
Oh that remark most definately sounds as if it comes from Dunedin the home WHITE EXTREMISM in Aotearoa New Zealand. Gotta watch your racist fat mouth Hone the GCSB is watching and waiting for you and yours to rear your ugly heads...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...HEHEHEEHEEHEHE. About time it did too.
I agree, come fetch more of them
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hate, great
@@Thomas2Chill i am a coloured and yet now they make more than you ever will i have a white friend who moved to austrailia and he doesent struggle he gets paid 3 times as much as he did here and i dont mean more if you take the dollar next to the rand i am thinking of moving to you black racist are getting on everyones nerve coloured white indian and all
I miss my son but grant him and his family the freedom and happiness they do not have here Love Dad.
I am Maori, my wife is South African and my kids were born in Australia (I've got the Tri-Nations at my place lol). I have been to South Africa many times and I have found the people very friendly, even when I rag them about the All Blacks. They are a very staunch, proud people with a long history and now many feel displaced since the fall of apartheid. They're still trying to find their place in the world and it hasn't been easy for them. Patience on both sides is called for...patience and understanding. I love South Africans...especially during rugby season lol
Thanx for the compliment mate, all the best.
Feel misplaced since they stopped killing and oppressing Africans and forceful taking their land and resources , huh, so pathetic and disgusting , how can someone be upset because their opportunity to do evil was taken away?
They will call your children grey & you will never be fully accepted!
@@sammon4364 true
This kind of immigrants are industrious and will do so much to prosper
As long as they don't bring their racist ways into our country ..
And no matter who moves to Nz you need to adapt to our culture not the other way around! You don't like that then don't move here ..
Yes go back with your racist
south african will never adaop,because they cannot believe that they have fallen,or that their great empire they own in south africa has fallen.while in south africa,they lived like kings and queens,they were always on top of the world,and now they have to struggle to adapt somewhere.what you sow is what you reap.
Wooly Zizi when you have personally experienced the horrors of lived in South Africa, you will have the right to make comments like this. The white people who did well there were those that studied, understood business, worked hard to make a decent income and invested wisely. Since the takeover of South Africa by black leaders, the country has fallen because the Communist driven, extremely corrupt ANC government have plundered everything they can. South Africa Airways has gone into liquidation while it's managers paid themselves millions! Municipalities have gone bankrupt. Hospitals are in serious financial difficulties. ESKOM (Electricity supply) is bankrupted. The list is endless. The government racist BEE (black economic empowerment) has all but blocked whites from getting jobs. As a result, the standards of life has plummeted. Crime of all kinds is completely out of control, the police are constantly being caught for corruption and in some parts of the country unemployment is as high as 90%. Farmers are being murdered daily and corrupt president Ramaphosa says its not happening. Apartheid ended many years ago and the 'majority' now run the show. They have had ample time and opportunity to build the country into a successful nation but they have failed dismally. The results speak for themselves. You go live there for a year and you will see for yourself that what is happening there has nothing to do with apartheid or white rule but everything to do with ignorance, low productivity and creeping Communism. Then you can comment in all honesty. And if you are an ex-South African living in NZ, I'd ask why did you not stay there?
Oh so they hate black south Africans but find no problem singing black south African songs and making money of it? . Wtf?
@@LuckyLucky-xp2sz Seems like you're the one full of hate!
This was our life,I started my own auto workshop,was well supported by some wonderful kiwis, just remember life does not carry on where it left off in RSA, have been gone since 96 now in Australia, but thank you NZ still love you guys
As a pacific islander, the South Africans I've met have been awesome and I am yet to meet one that has a problem integrating. There are bad apples in every community.
Your last sentence speaks volumes Beaz. The ignorance and racism on this thread is, I suppose ironically, astounding. I wonder if all the bigots posting here claim to be conscious and aware and democratic in their spare time.
@@AfricanStorybook the hypocrisy is amazing!
@@AfricanStorybook Its true though. No matter what ethnic group you belong to there is always going to be a minority of bad people.
The homosexual who is complaining is lashing out because he fears them and their ethnic unity. Notice that he’d never utter a complaint to any non-Europeans that behave in the cohesive manners that the Afrikaners do.
In my N.Z. workplace some White Sth Africans considered Maori racially inferior. Many were ex-cops and wouldn't cut the mustard as cops in N.Z. and were accustomed to being Inspectors in S.A. but were merely on the bottom rung in N.Z. They often arrogant pricks who were keen on assaulting other staff and "clients," and sparks would fly if a more senior Maori officer would give orders to an ex-cop Jaape.
The irony of those women singing in Nguni languages when most don't deal with Africans in a real way in RSA is laughable. Sing Die Stem and get over it.
I thought i was the only one who noticed, the culture they take on is other people's culture but they don't want to deal with the people. Intresting indeed
Charmaine I could say it better. 😀😀
Yeah, why didn't they sing Afrikaans songs? Kind of ironic, given they can't stand being around black South Africans 🤣
I have no idea why South Africans are moving to NZ! Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!! I am South African and I'm committed to staying in my country and being part of the solution rather than part of the problem. I'm helping my African employees get their kids through school and college.....if I were to leave...who would help them? Certainly not our corrupt government! I am needed in this flawed country I call home!
Elle W - I love you Elle, well said.
You're a good citizen!
Elle W, Well done my fellow citizen, God will reward you for your caring heart. I love you, God bless you always.
If I got burgled three times in a row and got part of my family murdered, I wouldn't have stayed one second in whatever was my home country. I'd get the hell out of there. I understand them. Living with that kind of heavy security and worry all the time, is no way to live.
Also I can't see any political solution to what South Africa is facing today. When wealth is as strongly divided by ethnicity it is very hard to avoid populist politics ruling the day in any country. That will lead to bad government. South Africa is not alone in this. You see the same in South America where they jump from one populist government to another, never getting society on the right track.
I am sure things will work out in the end. I just don't think it will happen in a generation, which is what will matter for most people.
Good luck. SA seems to be saying the same about you. "Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!!
I was born in NZ and I've met so many nice South Africans in my life. Basically all of the good science teachers at my schools were SA too. I hope they are all going well.
I love how this documentary is just sharing the experiences good and bad honestly. No agenda like our 2018 world :) Would be great if they can do a follow up now a few years later :)
Thank you chandre. I can't quite believe how much hate-speak and sheer ignorance finds its way to this page. I'd love to do a follow up. But don't work for Carte blanche anymore.
Am told a lot of the racism Tauranga Bay is not by Kiwis but white South Africans who import their racism
Been in New Zealand 2 years now an we absolutely love it here...
Miss SA at times.. but never looking back... honoured to be in this great country..
You miss your racist brethren?
@@stikupartist3698 you have no idea what your talking about. People have listen to media controlled by people who want to paint the Afrikaner as all bad. But what people fail to realize is that a large amount of Afrikaners apposed Apartheid. People are not their governments
@@stikupartist3698 you have an inferiority complex.
They are in a foreign land and now want to speak afrikaans there.They must speak English! Not long they will want afrikaans only schools and .Infact they have already started waving SA flag.Later it will be the Vierkleur flag!
@@josiahmanganyi5359 isn't that what you colonizers do?
Go to another country, embrace, respect, their culture. Not hard to understand eh? You don't come to another country and push your ways and will on their people. Integrate or go home. This is exactly why we are having problems in every damn country.
Bloody hell, this pisses me the heck off.
They’re not at all
They can't shake off their apartheid‼️😂
Good on them for finding peace and happiness. I'll never leave though, regardless of what happens here. This is my country, you know? It's worse in some other countries, better in others. God bless them and the people who welcome them.
Go back in Europe, south Africa is not your land.
@@angryblackman857 Why not? I'm assuming you think I'm white based off my name. Well mate, that's a pseudonym. I'm black as can be. Stop being hateful. Our white South Africans are just as South African as us non-whites. I'm not a racist black man like you.
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God Bless South African & New Zealand relations!
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Zimbabweans are the one that are killing people in south Africa....they also want to chase white people in south Africa
The old radio guy is right, that assertive attitude doesn't work here......trying to be the boss man with the big stick gets us Kiwis backs up.
zalabeta lefty if you don't want to work don't work go back to socialism and enjoy handouts, don't worry jacinda will look after you Racism coming out much
What are you on about? I’m an ACT voter. Socialism has got nothing to do with his comment nor racism. He just recognised a national trait. South Africans are generally assertive (some perceive as arrogant) and it can rub us native born the wrong way. Its not some big or foundational criticism. Its just an observation. Geez so sensitive is that also a national trait of SA?
Yes i heard that....lol.
In new zeal and australia Theres what they call tall poppy syndrome and south africans like being tall poppies😂 which explains the assertive nature bcs to become a tall poppy takes firmness to get stuff done and fast
@@jgribhamnz its not a national trait. its dutch descendants who identify As south Africans that have an attitude towards what they don't know. very intolerant
@@jgribhamnz maybe they think they are in south Africa. well you gotta live like underdog once in a life time.
People struggle in every society when coming from a foreign countries and usually move among people that share their language and values. That hairdresser just explained a typical American city.
What is it about many South Africans "Afrikaners in particular" always ending up being hated by people in their host countries?
Seriously this extends from England to New Zealand to Argentina, and everytime i get complaints about South Africans it's almost always a racist Afrikaner starting shit.
Now i'm not saying this extends to all South Africans, or all Afrikaners for that matter, i'm just speaking out based on experience and the constant complaints i'm usually bombarded with.
I hear you Dawood, and thank you for not generalizing. Among those that fled were certain, racist and arrogant types, and they hopefully will learn and change their thinking. I'm convinced most will, through immersion in a non-racial society - it's inevitable.
@@AfricanStorybook i certainly hope so.
They are not hated in NZ. They have a good reputation here, same as Chinese and Indian immigrants. They work jard, fit in, cause no trouble.
@@dawoodwilliams3652 Afrikaaners are usually like what you described
Stop projecting dumb bantu
It's funny how life is so tough for them outside South Africa, yet they complain about everything when they are in South Africa. They must all leave our country and leave us in peace. Expropriation of Land without compensation
I really hope your goverment attempts it so it fully collapses.
Not sure where you see "them" having a tough time.
@@wernerschenk2473 South Africa is now officially Cuba II.
It's no different to Zimbabwean academics who moved to South Africa and ended up selling fruit in the streets because they couldn't find jobs. They've also become like Somalians and Ethiopians who own little shops downtown.They went from comfortable upper class lifestyles in South Africa to lower middle class living from paycheck to paycheck.
Mmala Mokone so daf
So sad
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@Tarzan ek hou van Jou naam
Shem I felt sorry for the lady who was so happy she got a job as a bus driver. It's very rare to see a white south African working as a bus driver in South Africa.
I've had the worst Afrikaner experiences here in SA .... you have no idea of their arrogance.... I can't believe they take it with them when they love this country...
Dont be a poes
Better alive and living in NZ than dead in SA.
Over 19,000 murders in S,Africa "reported" in 2016 and over 18,000 attempted murders "reported" in 2016 in a country of 56 million people.
And many parts of Europe are not "stolen" land too?
Get a grip with the truth man.
they were running away from being ruled by a Black President aka Nelson Mandela
Marko Marko. Us older geezers remember that around 1970 when we were ready to have kids, the "experts" were telling us that it was "irresponsible" to have more than two children. If we had more than two children, we would use up all the available resources.
So could this have been a strategic damping down of white birth rates, as a way of implementing the Kalergi Plan?
So that the Turks, a temporarily secular, semi-westernized nation could re-infiltrate the eastern end of Europe, because Germany especially was running out of men due to WW II.
Re-infiltrate just as the Ottomans did in the 1600's, except more stealthily.
Europe, always the cheapskate, is now pumping a shitload of money (collected from working taxpayers) into the Muslim and African hordes. Unemployable, illiterate, useful only to disrupt civilization and create chaos, just like Kalergi planned.
Your thoughts, please.
As someone with Afrikaaner connections, it is clear that refugee status IS NOT the answer. A mass exodus of white Africaaners IS NOT the solution.
It is totally impractical & dangerous. The best solution is for an independent Western Cape - the Cape Republic. ANC admitted that if a referendum was held the people would support it. The future of South Africa is autonamy among ethnic & tribal lines, i.e. KwaZulu-Natalia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc.
Its sad! I watch a guy named BI on youtube who goes around feeding the poor. Its a blessing to have him but what about the rest of the starving country. If only the government made it affordable to live in S.A than crime wouldn't be so high! Giving my prayers & blessings from *Auckland City*
Pi?.yes love his channel
He’s a very compassionate person among a huge country with a lot of heartless psychopaths who crave things and will get them any way they can. That’s what’s unfortunate about that country which could be a world powerhouse if the right people were in charge.
I'm Aussie when I leave my Country I leave to get away from the culture, people and the way of life. Its exciting taking up new languages, playing different sports and just taking in the ways of the locals, when I see Australians abroad I just don't want anything to do with them.
When emigrating to another Country leave your old life in your old Country as living your old life in your new Country is a recipe for misery.
I love the way the one ‘poppie’ says that her biggest issue is getting shoes. Maybe she must not go to Payless. Lovely that the bus driver lady opened a ‘tuisnywerheid’.
if you emigrate looking back over your shoulder, you'll never settle in your new home. I say this as an English expat: it took me 27 years (and counting) to realise it.
Any Afrikaans that leaves South Africa does not deserve the title of a South African, true boere dont leave
Lol 'N Ware boer weet wanneer hy verslaan word
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland ,when will that be?
I know a south African elderly man who we worked in the same company in Auckland. He is a very decent gentleman but once I have said: 'Was that so bad in S.A?' His eyes were like fireballs and became furious.... I know he has no offence intention to me as a asian man. But I could learn his past was creepy or even horrible stories he has experienced when he was young and being a soldier. He lost everything in S.A. fled to this country to spend the rest of his life, may God bless this man.
Could have been a killer during apartheid
My son My son I am very happy for you and yours being accepted in New Zealand .Do your best .My thoughts and love go with you Dad
Your family is very welcome here Bernard
@@sandraobrien8705 You don't speak for all NewZealanders
@@sandraobrien8705 Yeah let's keep letting others into the country and housing all of them before our own right?? Keep parents who both work full time jobs living in their cars WITH THEIR CHILDREN right?...WHILE PEOPLE JUST FLY ON IN AND GET RENTALS WITH EASE right?..This is why you do not speak for all NewZealanders. It's easy to sit there with a roof over your head saying "yeah sure your welcome in our lovely country! 🙂🙂🙂 fly more people into the country its no problem!"..while people out here are 2nd priority to people who just got off a plane ffs. There's over 4000 people living in motels and its safe to say i speak for more NZ's than you and you fkn know it!
@@NZSUBZERO The truth is the housing market is out of control and rental market is dire, I think that is something immigrants are not always aware of. There are not enough houses to go round, a lot of homes on the market are single glazed, mouldy, poorly insulated and should have been pulled down 20 years ago, yet prices are through the roof. These days a lot of homes go under the hammer with auctions won by overseas buyers at astronomical inflated prices which do not reflect NZ wages or the condition of the properties. It is difficult to get on the property ladder, also as a new immigrant, if you cannot bring a hefty down payment with you. New homes are constantly being built but cannot keep up with demand. Something else immigrants are probably not told at embassy info evenings is what it is like to rent here. Typically you need to apply online with 2 references and of course they prefer NZ references. It can be hard to get a good place with a responsible landlord/property agent. They are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. Expect to pay a lot for a modern build with double glazing and heatpump, in particular in Wgtn or Akl.Auckland prices are through the roof. Renting is tough, for the most part you cannot keep pets. You may get the home filthy with an overgrown, unkempt garden but have to leave it thoroughly cleaned, garden weeded and maintained.You have an inspection 4x year where the property agent photographs every room, the garage, exterior of the house. They want everything clean and tidy, lawns mowed, garden weeded eyc. It is very intrusive. You can find yourself without a home at short notice. The renter has little protection. The law entirely favours the landlord and many Kiwis have multiple houses as investments which they do not maintain or fix. Repairs are often not carried out. The law changed recently such that you are now permitted to hang up pictures but unlike other countries, you are not encouraged to think of a rental property as your home, there is next to no security that you can stay there longer term, there is little you can do to get a landlord to fix anything that needs repairs and the landlord can enter your rental anytime after giving 48 hours notice. I've lived in many countries and nowhere had such awful conditions for the renter. So it pays to keep all that in mind when weighing up a move.
@@sandraobrien8705 I agree with alot of what you said Sandra and I apologize for the language and how I came aross. It just pisses me off that there are so many hard working kiwi's out there that are pushed to the side (alot of slack bludgers in the mix aswell) The house next to me was up for rent and put in trademe 6months ago. An Indian couple got the rental over the 1700 people in hawkesbay camped up in motels. I get along with my new neighbors and they are good people but the fact of the matter is...it should be the other way around, that's all I'm saying 🤷🏻♂
I've gone to school and worked with a few South Africans. Both Afrikaans and English descent. They were all good folks, got along with the Maori and islanders just fine.
One thing to note. They had all left South Africa because of the crime.
The school age ones were amazed when they arrived that you could walk down the street by yourself in daylight or at all after dark, let alone by yourself after dark!
You just didn't do that where they lived.
Yes they did look sideways at our darker skinned people when they arrived, which I think is understandable, given their experiences.
But they came around pretty soon. Rugby had a lot to do with that. Gave people a common interest in which to get to know each other.
I wish more people were like you and the people you talk of in this world. It would be a much happier place.
I had to scroll down this far to find a positive note.
Thank you for sharing a message that is not full of hatred.
Welcome to my country Aotearoa New Zealand from a Maori if you're hearts in the right place and love us we well love you back even more that is the way we Maori are take care bye
They left SA because of crime? A 400 year old crime was happening and they only noticed in the 90s? Please!
Ngum Ngafor Apartheid was placed in 1948, how’s that possible that it’s been 400 years 😂😂 didn’t do well at maths now did you.. stupid moron
I'm a kiwi samoan I'm bless to have South African friends. They are very relatable and friendly people. Mad on rugby and cricket will only support nz if not playing against the motherland. Love listening to their accent and the coolest thing we all go to church , this is more I could say about the majority of my friends. Welcome to Aotearoa.
hard g
Carole will make it anywhere with her personality and attitude.
I doubt she'd drive a bus in SA. 😕
@@mg_slang lol coz they are privileged here
@NXM Europeans are kings and Queens here in SA who cleans for them of course not whites but Africans.
@NXM what coloure of the khoi san ain't they African
@NXM twisted history you only saw Khoi sans in the Western side but Eastern side there was always people like Nguni's Ndebele's Zulu's Xhosa's Swati's Northern Side Sotho's Nguni's have a lil bit of Khoi words and you are 100% European nothing African about you.
"they tend to cluster together" :-) yup there is some truth to that. But part of it is that any immigrant to a new home settles where they land, and newcomers are uncertain of what to expect so seek out ex-Saffers, and that becomes habitual. (We consciously sought to settle where we were not in a Saffer community, but chose wisely and many followed us instead.)
So few folk have been shot at outside of ZA, so we are commonly a little traumatised and find solace in mutual understanding. I am so 'bleery' happy that I have not had anyone shoot at me in the last 13 years. Auckland is home, it is truly where my heart is.
(And my wife who survived the stress of immigrating here with me is still my soulmate.)
poor migrant cluster cos they r different lloking, insecure. but givnen s african r same europaen stock of people, there is no need. look wehere they r they want to be seprate? and in charge?
Puke.
Not many of them go to Holland. Why is that do you think?
The society and language in Holland is too different from what they are used to. New Zealand is a closer match and easier to move to. Most South Africans are fluent in English and New Zealand has a very good reputation in South Africa... that's what I think anyways...
Same with Indians, not one has gone back to India
@@shameel2625 False information.
ALL OF Indians left Uganda to return to India.
Over 3000 South African Indian businessmen left for India while the professional technical Indian engineers left for Australia, the middle East (Gulf) and Canada.
I remember moving to the US over 30 years ago. Got to speak to a fellow white Zimbabwean on the phone. He invited my husband and I to his house, but almost died of heart failure when he discovered we were of mixed race.😄😄😄 His loss though, we could have helped him and his wife out in so many ways. They need to learn, that people live together in harmony abroad.
🤣🤣 Omd I’m not surprised. They’re used to people of colour being they’re workers etc Getting help from them is like the worst thing they can ever imagine
@@junemuch5650 In most western countries whites had and do have whites as their workers, did you know that? Seems not.
Lol their hate is their downfall
Ironically... I was born in then Rhodesia (Salisbury) til 4 years old then my parents moved to Lusaka (Zambia - then Northern Rhodesia)... And loved the local Indigeny and highly respected all from different tribal groups... Down to SA in 1961 - learnt Afrikaans and suffered through dreaded Apartheid thuggery... My one niece is married to an isiXhosa who we all adore and they have two children...
My parents instilled a non-prejudicial, respectful attitude into all of us...
South Africa is going through a tough time due to corrupt politicians... Sadly locals are not being catered to but life is definitely more equal now and improving somewhat...
POLITICIANS... Like BABIES NAPPIES must be changed REGULARLY AND FOR the SAME REASON...
Funny thing is in south Africa she wouldn't be caught dead driving a bus🙄
@@khanyiecreates5420 Racist prick!
I've met heaps of South Africans here in Australia and for the most part have always got along fine with them. They do have a forward and almost abrupt communication style which differs from that of the average Aussie, Kiwi or American for that matter
That is a typical Dutch influence...often perceived as arrogance, mostly unjust IMO.
As a Norwegian I understand what this means. Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans are more direct and matter of factly. There is less beating about the bush. I think it is also severely misunderstood by most anglo-saxons. They interpret it often as a form of rudeness or arrogance.
I've listened to people of different origin complain about dutch behavior in the Netherlands, while they did not realize my culture was exactly the same. So I got an insight into how foreigners view the germanic behavior. I must say in general it is very misunderstood. People assume entirely different intentions by germanic people than what was actually their intention.
It is a bit arrogant of anglo-saxons I think to assume that just because you are white, you must perceive the world the same way as them. Somehow they seem to have less issues with say Chinese, Japanese or Indians behaving entirely different.
That's called arrogance i have met some nice SAFs (white), they have come to Nz as they should to start a new life not ram their racist shit down our throats! Fuck No!!
Probably a Dutch trait
White race thing
I am a south-african married to a austrian, when we came to live in austria permanantly, my husband had a more difficult time than me. My children (german speaking) hated the chance, the only one that loved it was me, I could go and have piano lessons,singing lessons, and go and have coffee in a palace, see art exibitions- I think it depends on a person, I basicly had to pull everyone allong. Hope you really try hard to be happy, its not so difficult, loves and hugs.
My dear unknown friend, reading what you wrote is so refreshing, a lovely change from all the negative crap I have read so far from folk who really have no idea what it is like to rearrange ones life in a new place.. Yes it does take two to Tango, but then again, you can dance with your imagination, the partner with you till death xxxx
@Soso Mama Its always dfificult in the beginning, its a new way of living, there is so many things you could do here that is not possible in south-africa. I wish you good luck.
honestly life is the same everywhere if you see it in contact of the universe. does it really matter if you know that your life is in the hand of nature. we are just stupid pretenders. best is to treat everybody equally with love and understanding. at the end day we should all know that no one is exceptional in the universe. like the simple bacteria like complex life (including humans). we are just event of nature. there is no God but nature.
Please stay there don’t come back to Africa. You belong in Europe as you’re European
I can relate to this I was born in the UK but left when I was 2 years old and spent 18 years living in South Africa. We are now back in the UK and I miss the South African culture very much. South Africa has a magic which is very hard to leave behind . There are a lot of South Africans here in the UK now and a lot of South African shops so we can still get our SA fixes . There are also a lot of SA events we can go to just to bring that South African magic back once in awhile.
Have no problem with sth Africans migrating to my country.. both love rugby, have nice looking woman lol (we need some trust me )👌🏽 as long as you integrate and not try build your own SA here
Lol that's exactly what they plan on doing. SA flags, SA branded shops and they want to only live amongst themselves. This sounds way toooo familiar! Luckily the ones on this video clip aren't branding their shops with old apartheid flags.
But they don't integrate they think for some disillusioned reason they are superior and form there own Saffa Colonys in Brown's Bay etc. It's so obvious they just want to bail from the nightmare they created in their own shit hole of a country. I'm not buying it one bit.
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland bit like how kiwis in aus have nz fern shown all the time..don't be a hypocrite
That's what New Zealanders did to Maoris.
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland you sound bitter that they are leaving S.A...
So many South Africans are in my country New Zealand and yet they create their own districts and stick together... You’re in New Zealand now... we don’t like any of that here.
That's the nature of a true democracy, people can live in cluster groups if they want to. Kiwi's do it as well if they are rich enough.
Tell them to go back lol I've seen that mainly in Browns Bay!!
yeah hard. these south african boys rocked up to me n my tongan mate, just trynna staunch us. just got fed up then smashed them. ma tongan mate was going full hundy at them. telling them to fuck off back to their country
These are not South African expects these are migrating Dutch that once lived in South Africa who have migrated to New Zealand.
I absolutely hate the way they continue to labor themselves in order to gain sympathy when right down the road from New Zealand Australia sits where the migrating Dutch Kane destroyed rate stole the land renamed it and rename them
I'm a 3rd generation white NZer and invariably find the Sth Africans that have moved here are a breath of fresh air ! They have a no nonsense way of looking at things , are grateful to be here , work hard and some humble themselves in occupations that they would never have done in Sth Africa . I wish them all a good future here
in Aotearoa ....🐬
I get the impression that South Africa is loosing it's best people on mass
It will soon be known as South Cuba.
Very ironic. I know of hundred of cape coloureds who left for New Zeeland under Apartheid.They all did well. But are they invisible their too.If not then why don't you interview them
Theirs lots of Brown Capetownians there since the sixties.
I absolutely agree.It's disgraceful that only the white South Africans were interviewed.
White people want to see themselves, in all societies.
Exactly what I was thinking! I would love to hear their voices!!!
Heidi don't be stupid and gullible this is a lefty liberal subversive video don't you get it? they are not these immigrants friends they are running them down on the side get it duh ZZZzzz lefties aren't the brightest
Nadir racist much or just a stupid hypocrite or both
Us South Africans are bit arrogant, but it's because we're big fish in a small pond, but it's innocuous mostly. We're also very independent and entrepreneurial.
And racist
You are wrong....I blame apartheid !! That is where the arogance come from.
@@truth-Hurts375 apartheid was racist
@@zororondigger3778 Actually, if you do some research, you will find that apartheid was a Sunday school picnic compared to life in any other country on the African continent. There is a very long list of violent African dictators, from Austria to Auckland, many of whom committed some of the worst violations of human rights known to mankind.
Afrikaners not integrating in SA now not integrating in NZ. Are they still good immigrants?
6:58 'notice how the white guy said 'that house is a maori, that house is a samoan, that house is a white new zealander, that house is a chinese'. oh, ok so if you're white, you dont refer to yourselves as european but a new zealander???
Picky picky picky
whites do that all time , even in america they say asian america ,black american, native american but whites are just american 🙄
I'm a kiwi live abroad was horrified at the sheer number of South Africans in NZ when visiting home, north shore lost for words , South Africans cluster and large dominating groups don't really assimilate well, they complain a lot about nz. Freeze out kiwis . Not very independent South Africans.
I feel your pain man. NZ has become a popular destination here in SA, I'm afraid a lot more are coming.
Yes I smell a big rat . Wait for it,
Carole is so lovely! I'm sure that she will adapt quickly
South Africans are such a great people, their enterprising spirit and Love of Liberty bring countless benefits to any Country they chose to live in and contribute to!
They are good among their own kind, here in Africa they treat blacks less than a dog.
fu.k love of liberty make me laugh
@@iskaykabeya609 Thats exactly what many blacks say about their own kind in government, want to see pics of them carrying the posters saying exactly that?
Greetings from Canada. I have a South African friend whose brother back home was murdered in a car jacking. He returns to SA only to visit surviving family, and takes many security precautions when he does. It's sad to see people driven out of their homeland by crime.
Mary Cahill Homeland? No honey
@@fullmetaltheorist good riddance
@@de-sh109 Shitonhonka LOL
Ahhh Canada is perfect no crime
Yip that's our new RSA now a filthy,trash house,evil too.
Hopefully they don’t come to New Zealand with their apartheid, racist ideologies from South Africa. I hope they treat the brown natives kindly and they integrate into the society properly
We have a beautiful country yous are welcome here..south Africans a lovely people.NAU MAI HAERE MAI
Thank you si much
the women are soo elegant
If u are a Maori then those white South Africans think of as being just another blackie .If u are white Ihope that u are not as racists as white South Africans
Pfff, Maories are not Blacks, and Maories are not so uppssesed about past wrongs as you Africans. They take Rainbow Nation seriously.
@@sheriffmoola3456 Stop talking kak, and get over yourself. The Maoris are a strong nation, and we South Africans respect them. They also don't play the race card at every opportunity, and they take responsibility. You tend to generalise all white South Africans, and that is ignorance to the full extent. I take it you have personally met each and every white English/Afrikaans speaking South African?
I have never been to South Africa or New Zealand but I do like learning about different countries and different cultures very cool unfortunately I guess immigration is tough no matter where you go
Don't go to South Africa i born there just don't go
i luv my country I cannot change it for anything
Go to South Africa you will lovee it. Everybody has a relative in South Africa
Good for Carol the busdriver. Go
girl go.
Why they don't emigrate to Holland and reunite with their ancestors.
Who knows, maybe there’s too many blacks in Hollander
They saying South Africans but all I see is white faces are they any black South Africans in Australia
Ofc not, are you that naive?
They are not South Africans they are Europeans
No they’re South Africans
@@surfboarding5058No there not they Europeans
@@unhearted29 no sorry the are white South Africans
@@unhearted29 South African sorry
@@surfboarding5058 They are just White
When she says they killed my brother and father, who is they?
Like really, who is "they"
Isn't it obvious? Boers are going through nothing short of a genocide right now and the fact you have to ask "who is they?" speaks volumes regarding how uninformed the rest of the world is on the plight of the white South Africans.
@ I'm still asking who are they? O buwa masepa wena...u have no clue , are u even a south African? What about all the black people who are killed by whites in farms...so dont talk nonsense...u know they feed people to the lions? What about that young boy the farmers shot for stealing oranges? Like shoot a young boy? Fuck u
@XOLANI REQUITO MKHWANAZI ba re tlwaela gampe shem...as if blacks are not killed too by farmers..mxm...
@@lesegomodise5871 er they faced the justice of the courts and went to jail........so what's your point?
3:55 its tough to show empathy now knowing fully well that when they had power they showed none. I pray that the mercy they showed the natives be shown back to them
EXACTLY!!!! YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!!
@@caligirl3000 Remember your words, Karma has a funny way of biting you in the arse.
Look at South Africa now. Blacks running the show for 28 years and things are only getting worse. SA is a shithole being run into the ground. Its difficult to not call your opinion stupid, when a black co worker of mine from SA told me he had it better during apartheid compared to now.
@@jaco7826 i'm sure your coworker experienced every aspect of apartheid, and is an expert on human relations. So whatever he says must be right. 👍🏾!
@@jaco7826 im sure the life quality was better, but he definitely didnt enjoy being a 2nd class citizen, nobody does.
"Even though SA is in a critical state, we still operate under the assumption that "it will never happen here". But that's what the Venezuelans thought too. Hearing their story first-hand was a reality check. Because Venezuela's early warning signs are flashing in SA." - Mmusi Maimane - 23 October 2018
It's not going to happen, I'm sure you've been waiting for 25 years???
It's going to happen in every Country
Fascist propaganda perpetuated by Joseph Geobbels himself!
Nothing worse than Fascists or Commie totalitarians!
Mmusi was right. It's becoming more and more evident by the day. I have lost hope
@@ayandampolweni17 I believe it has come to pass, as seen with 12 million signing up for a free R350 government unemployment grant which will not be possible to sustain. 99% of Cubans earn R350 per month for working full time.
These are the same people who didnt want to intergrate with the people of their country of birth. What makes you think that will change when moving abroad? Same thing in the UK....they have their afrikaner get togethers and very rarely mix with the british. "A leopard can not change its spots"
They are another breed of people. Conservative, racist and secluded.
Not the modern generation.
The British put them in concentration camps that's like asking Jews to socialize with Nazi's..
@@patmunoo887 nah their ancestors will have jobs no BBEEE did you eevn listen to this man?
Thats how people are, they think and act in clans. Not only an issue for the Boers. All national or groupe feeling is finaly disturbing a full integration. Just name them, all over the world people tend to look for sortwise. The main issue is not that but the willing of immigrants to participate fully in their new country with its new mentality. Many want to do that, some don't and start something completly new like the creation of Orania in SA. As long as they follow the rules of the human rights movement no harm done.
We cannot live with them in Africa. They don’t belong here. You people have to accept them. They are you brothers and sisters.
Clustering always occurs in the first generation of immigrants. We saw that in the USA. But the second and third generation want to assimilate.
Not really the Mexicans, Cubans, Jews and Koreans still keep to themselves. It’ll probably take another 2 to 4 generations or so.
Im the child of Brits immigrants to NZ. The Brits cluster together as well. I still cluster to Brits and Im NZ born
@@robosborne5489 Exactly, thank you for the plain down to earth truth.
All Dutch/Afrikaans are good people. they are nice people and hearty farmer attitudes i like them very much. Very Understanding of our Culture in New Zealand. they're very respectful my door is always open to them. and im Maori hard.
give it time, see who is in charge later?
Here in Germany we have many of them, too. As a convinced and proud Southerner, they are some of the best conversation partners I can imagine, especially when politics is the topic!
Evan McDonald please come over here to South Africa and fetch more of them :-)
@@aydenfrac I'm already starving :-(
@@mazibukomail Starving for unity and nation building. Guess it will never happen. The way I see it there is too much Black and White hatred and this will never go away for generations to come.
@apokalypse 2016 The biggest problem is that White South Africans, because of apartheid could possibly viewed internationally as a White Supremist race of the Ku Klax Klan ideologies.
The Suidlanders is a White group in South Africa undergoing training in order to defend farm properties which is believed to be under attack by blacks in South Africa. It is not clear whether the attacks is criminal intent or politically motivated.
Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia movement is an international movement.
The Suidlanders could possibly be seen connected to this movement by the European community.
Therefore i agree with you that it is quite possible that the European world may not want to grant political asylum to White South Africans based on apartheid's White supremist ideologies and the possible link to the Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia terrorists organization.
What makes it worst for white South Africans is that Brenton Tarrent the shooter of the Christchurch massacre of Muslims is being investigated to a possible connection to the ALT Right movement.
If there is a Suidlanders link to this organization, it is definitely not helping White South Africans internationally
Ernst Roets of Afriforum is presently in USA lobbying for support to stop the expropriating of the farms and Simon Roche the leader of the Suidlanders is also there for. I leave that to your imagination.
@Zz Z but black people are currently doing all the work as farm workers. What are you on about?
6:38 And he _totally_ would have no qualms about saying the same about, say, the Somalis in the UK.
yup
Its extremely sad that this is happening.
It should've never happened.
These people should be able to live in their own countries. Free from harm and pain.
Overtime, the south African culture will diminish and therefore blend in with the new culture.
Treu my friend
Agreed... very philosophical
I really doubt that. Majority of South Africans still reside in South Africa and take the upkeep of their culture very seriously. We just need to figure out how to keep our diversity alive whilst still integrating.
They have the right to preserve their culture. I’ve polish American friends that are more than 5 generations there but they always celebrate their heritage.
Good riddance
Basically they doing things that were done by blacks in SA. They were bosses here. Ask them what were they doing in SA instead of what they are doing in NZ
We are happy for them... please invite the rest of your families too... dont leave them behind. All the best to New Zealand and the native people there.
My exact sentiments... Good for them
@@tshiamishogopane633 but then they are going to be racist to the natives of New Zealand. You cant see that?
It's already happening
@@patmunoo887 can you provide a source? First time Ive heard of it but psychologically the act of have a superior complex is hard to overcome.
Pat Munoo really ? you have had personal experience of this ? how awful for you ..or are you one of those people who likes to stir up trouble
@@patmunoo887 Yes you provide your sources, you are a agitator just like the ones in South Africa, put you money where your mouth is.
Seeing how other whites from other countries can't stand white southafricans is funny, now can you imagine how black South Africans, who deal with them daily feel
@@BeastingOutShorts I think us kiwi may be abit cautious of the Boere until we got to know you personally. The main reason is the Boer run to New Zealand at the fall of Apartheid and no sooner. I know some good Boer but we always hear talk of that Black's did this and that... The reality is that in NZ the sort of talk is considered bad manners, and no I am definitely no sort of Liberal!
@@hanzjensen2154 if genocide is upon you and your family because of the colour of your skin, and your family members is murdered on a daily basis, would you also not flee the place where you are being slaughtered? It is ironic that when asked why you moved from South Africa to NZ, AUS, ENG or wherever the afrikaners are relocating to, and you explain to them the reality what is going on in SA, then that is what you will hear from them. If you have not been to SA, then it is also difficult to understand what the afrikaners are talking about. Afrikaners are respectful people but also honest. You must know that the afrikaners who relocate, leave a lot of their lives behind in the aim just to get to a safe place.
@@BeastingOutShorts I can understand your position but your reality must not change ours! If we let too many people from troubled nations into our country what will become of mine? I would say the same thing about troubled Muslims coming to NZ. Please understand I am a Nationalst and any non western people coming to our country is of concern. You must realise in the 60s - 70s the Maori helped fight the comunist, brothers in arms - tis not a matter of race but Nationalism.
@@hanzjensen2154 i respect your nationalism and patriotism towards your country, because it means you are proud of your country. I have no problem with the Maori, or Aborigine people as I have never had any problems with them, neither have they done me any harm. In fact I always enjoy the "haka" and the passion from the people committed to their traditional culture. Just as you are patriotic about your culture, so are the Afrikaner, but in SA our culture are being attacked and even our language is seen as racist, where the ANC government is removing it from schools, and universities. We value the same things, which is respect for one another.
@@BeastingOutShorts I see, not all Afrkaners are racist. Does the problem the Afrikaans people are experiencing have anything to do with the ANC's governments Marxist ideology and the fact that the vast number of Africans remain uneducated? SA's political system seems to have swung from far right wing to far left at a rapid pace after apartied. Maybe the political system needs to be centralised, possibly in favour of a more nationalised capitalistic type of government that is more well rounded fair and robust for all. It must also be hard for the two races to get on considering the volitle history between the two/races. I understand that the English SA's have also been at odds with the Boere.
I'm PI and I like SA people in New Zealand . They are hardworking and friendly.
I get so happy every time when I come acrosse positive response like this
Great, so invite them back to your own country!
So is there mouth wait for it ,
The crime in South Africa is the scariest thing.
I guess afrikaners will always be a racist people. That radio persons said he heard 3 afrikaners making derogatory comments about the kiwis. These afrikaners are still working to keep themselves seperate and apart from the kiwis. Which means they still hold an attitude of apartheid - or white racist superiority. Remember it was the Afrikaners who STARTED the whole apartheid system around 100 years ago. Now they move to NZ to escape the crime - which is a consequence of that racist apartheid system that the afrikaners started. Once in NZ - they stick to their enclaves. I bet they even have gated communities - just to keep themselves seperate. This is how apartheid started. Kiwis - you need to be careful that they do NOT take over the country.
I am very glad that you did not include us English speaking South Africans....all the best.
Generally speaking that is not true and an unfair statement to make.
@@controlroomlandry271 most english ppl are lefties.
General speaking it's unfair to say that all white Afrikaners are racist. That is very far from the real truth. Racism has no color,
@@zoolander2280 I agree with You 100% Zoo, You know it sad to think of this, as You know in SA there are more liberals than Conservatives, During elections in the past NP (liberals) always win.So actually those who vote for them,they said Yes for this mess and now they run away and they are the ones who complains the most but ooo they vote Yes so actually they against there own!!!!
Shame man, it must be really difficult. Change is good but very difficult...
The crime level is a very a very serious concern unfortunately and it's sad to lose good people to that.
As a person who grew up and lived with the afrikaaner most of my life, I will be the first to support the claim that they are indeed a hateful people who deserve all the love they are getting and I consider myself a very liberal person
There are good and ugly people in all cultures - sounds like you had a negative experience. But restricted to how many places...considering you were growing up I'd imagine it wasn't too many? One person's experience of a few people cannot define a nation. What is clearly missing in most comments on this page is 'intellect'. If we earn that, we can then make informed comments - otherwise it's the bile and bigotry someimes heard on talk shows. Q: Who initiated the Dakar talks with the ANC?
Fair enough, but I'll have you know that my experience with them is anything but minimal.
A: My understanding is that it was a number of Afrikaaner scholars and academics led by Slabbert. They were however strongly condemned by the majority of the afrikaners for their efforts...but I get your point
Afrikaans people in general are nice people. Some of them just took offence when family members were murdered.
When the Afrikaans woman said “they” she is being diplomatic…she means “black” which is telling.
I give her credit for being diplomatic after they murdered her father and brother. I wouldn't have been.
I'd cut her some slack: her brother was murdered.....
South Africans are lovely and hard working people
No they ain't, lovely people but not hard and fast workers
Some afrikaans are not nice people
Do the real natives of NZ/Aoteroa - the Maori people, really want all these white South Africans moving into their country?
Maori are the minority. LOL
Nz prides on Maori heritage...south Africans should know the local culture before thinking of imposing their preconceived notions. They should be grateful to be well received
vukken99 According to Goosen, research at RRL was focused on developing a “bacterial agent that would selectively kill black people.” Goosen stated that the project and the program had been described by South Africa’s then Surgeon General, Dr. Neil Knoble, as “the most important project for the country.”
Goosen himself had plenty of faith in the ability to create this type of weapon. In fact, he even claimed that an unknown European scientist had already developed a strain of bacteria capable of “only affecting, making sick, and killing pigmented people” as far back as the early 1980s.
“Under oath, Goosen went on to state that the government could have used such a weapon as a ‘negotiation back-up’ (to stay in power) and to ‘maintain peace’ (between local whites and blacks),” writes Singh.
@@petermak2398 We at RRL have developed the agent and call it Covid-19, it is now being tested and perfected.
wow ..the Maoris are really gonna get it.....
Ha then you don't know the maori
get what. if you're talking about one outs, me n the tongan bro smashed these sa boys
A bit odd how this snip portrays only how a certain segment of the South African population is represented. Perhaps there is a more complete perspective to be had ?
There is no other perspective. The majority of emmigrants have already integrated into society. These people interviewed are already way past their prime and cannot integrate, thats why they are the only perspective. Most people integrate, get on with their lives and enjoy the opportunities of both the host country and the country they left, both of both worlds. Just because you emmigrate does not mean that you cannot go back and do business, when things get bad you then go back, simple.
Lol yep. What's new
We have many South African expats in western NC USA, awesome people,!!
Yes South Africans are awesome people
Mr Clarkson do a video on that I have not heard about that but I know a bunch of people that would subscribe to a channel that did post videos about that
Yeah, I'm sure they'd fit right in, in your racist state.!
Exhibit A
Jasper Stone Chronicles New Zealand is a melting pot. Our Maori people are lovely looking, kind and generous. When white and Maori get together we make beautiful children. Everyone should be of mixed race. A great step to end racism.
WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN..... MMMM ENJOY YOUR STAY THERE , THOSE WHO WANT TO LEAVE THEY CAN.WE ARE PROUD TO BE SOUTH AFRICAN
HOW IS THE LOOTING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES AND TOWNS DOING IN SOUTH AFRICA? PROUDLY SPEAKING, OF COURSE.
Carole - South African Ystervrou! Well done, Carole!
no offense but the colour grading of this video is kinda a mess....
its because this is a cultural Marxist lefty liberal abc bbc style lefty agenda fuckup video and its amazing how few people pick it up and its also clear many of these virtue signallers in here are actually racists deep inside trying to come out and succeeding too.
I moved from an English speaking nation to country Australia 1969 when Aust was extremely different than my old home. We made a commitment to stay for min 2 years to give it a go. We knew many people that did the same as us that had gone back within 6 mth refusing to try. One of our neighbours didn't have electricity, hot water was heated on a wood stove, NO TV, NO telephone. Many households even in the closest city didn't have a telephone in their home. There was no fast food places. The only non english food was Chinese. I do NOT know any people that live within 500 km that had the same nationality that started with. We assimilated into Australian society. We LOVE IT !!!!! I have a slight accent still and peoples first guess now is Sth African. I get really angry as I detest the racism of white Sth Africans.
I feel sorry for New Zealand having a large influx of White South Africans that bring their racism with them (shown by women in the choir). Neither Australia or New Zealand want or need the racism they bring.
Positive, constructive comment thank you. Having visited Australia a few times, with my best friend living there, I have received good insight into the country. Arrogance of new arrivals is resented, obviously, and adopting and absorbing the local culture is the best way of assimilating and making a positive contribution. The 'when we' approach typical of old Rhodesians in SA is never appreciated.
@@AfricanStorybook WE have 3 generations living in Aust now.
And yet you have no issue with Australians and their sordid treatment of the aboriginal people. South Africa's ACTUAL history pales in comparison but you sound like a typical ignorant virtue signaling liberal. Very selective about your outrage, aren't you?
You're so in love with being an Australian yet the current treatment of non white people held in offshore concentration camps- because that's what they are- doesn't seem to bother you.
Hypocrite, thanks for correcting people because I don't want anyone thinking you're South African.
@@AfricanStorybook He just called all South African whites racist. How is this positive?
Different topic Ange, but laterally relevant. Here i must confess I did not think of that angle. I was focused on South Africans and their attitude when emigrating. But @@angevdw2887raises a good point re Australia's own history. At a museum in Cairns I saw a b&w, 20th century photograph of white australian 'hunters' with their feet on a pile of aboriginals, as early colonial settlers did throughout Africa with wildlife (and contemp hunters still do today). It was only in 1969 that aboriginals were removed from Australia's Fauna and Flora Act. Says a great deal about the country's DNA regarding race and tolerance. Happily it has been turning.
Why do they label black people " They " ? 😕
They are them.
Wonderful to see so many South Africans thriving in New Zealand.
I left South Africa last year and am living in England now.
Wherever we Saffas may be it is great to hear news of other Saffas doing well, having a job and decent lifestyle and living in safety.
GOD bless you all! ! 😁
Yeah after you fucked your own country. God bless you all!
@@chrisclark719 Have you been to SA??
You mean Englandistan
After you'll enjoyed apartheid you leave lol
Typical weakling
Chris Clark no sweetie ...we certainly did not mess up the country ......the ANC has messed up the country all on their own . Please don’t blame the white people ...we’ve had nothing to do with the political situation since 1990
Meanwhile we dutch dont even bother broadcasting their troubles.... its a shame. I would rather have an afrikaner immigrating here than a muslim.
107598 of course it’s your bunch of arseholes ,why not taking back your shits,instead coming into my country.
@@ayomomamao what do you even have against them
these people r misfits? they need to live in africa they built. what is stopping them?
Muslims come in ALL colours and Nationalities
Islam is a faith not a race of people buddy
They are not Africans, They are Europeans who colonized South Africa ( they're Ancestors)
....THEIR ancestors, you mean?
Yeah, they DEVELOPED South Africa -- made it the beautiful country it became.
I suppose that is your attitude towards the Indians of South Africa too -- "they are not Africans." ....And the Coloureds -- who exist because of the sexual relations between Afrikaner and local blacks: "they are not Africans", eh?
The Afrikaners are every bit as "African" as any black person will be "European" (i.e. British, French, German, etc.). ....The Afrikaners are every bit as African as we Euro-Americans are "American"!
In this case Black south african are not south African they are northern African people who colonized south Africa.
True, its either they are settlers or descendents of settlers
I have never colonized, nor do I know a colonizer, even less a colony. The majority of Afrikaners despise the idea of colonization. Given these facts, how are we the colonizers?
The past happened and had consequences. The consequence of colonization was the settlement of Europeans in South Africa. We should live with these consequences and duly integrate them into a modern, assimilated society.
To cling on to nationalistic and vengeful ideas, has never worked for any society. I plead to South Africans, be it black, white, Indian, colored or any other race to not let past injustices done to them, or their ancestors to hinder the way to a beautiful country and free republic.
@@SAHarry past? Every Africaner has a relative who has been murdered. The murders are without exception racial in nature. Do not sit in judgment of a people whose shoes you have not walked in. The nightmarish and horrific conditions in South Africa being visited upon the whites there currently amounts to genocide.
Those Afrikaners ran away cs they killed CHRIS HANI,STEVE BIKO ETC but they are busy crying for their people they think black people don't feel the pain like them
I remember in high school the South Africans would be in their own groups. They'd never integrate with other groups.
@@patricksweeney5308 NZers of Dutch descent (whose forebears mostly immigrated after WWII, and who are assimilated into the mainstream European NZ culture which is British-based) are not the same as Afrikaners, who have been in South Africa for 400 years and developed their own language and distinct culture over many generations. They're not exclusively of Dutch extraction either - there's also French and German in the mix.
Patrick Sweeney Afrikaans are different to the Dutch!
@@cececece5459 How do they feel being married to/befriending fruit? I love Kiwi fruit, but I wouldn' t go as far as marrying it. It must be a very sweet marriage/friendship.
@@cececece5459 yeah. we had this south african boy at our old school, he was extremely nervous so we'd try take him under our wing but felt more comfortable talking to other south africans
I am curous. Why do they sing in Bantu languages? Personally I think Australia is far more suited to white South Africans. They have a far more congruent culture. I'd say Canada and NZ are much of a muchness?
Yea Canada and New Zealand are very culturaly similar
They are Africans. They sing I their own language.
Canada is considerably more left leaning than NZ
I bet the crime rate is next to nothing in New Zealand.
Mmmm no