One of my favorite things about the Wizard is his love of Billy. The Wizard looks at Billy and he sees what he long hoped for: humanity at its best. It seems to have been something fairly consistent for him and why his desire to save Billy in Kingdom Come was so damned poignant. A father watching his beloved son being tormented.Waid and Ross really captured Shazam's misery at witnessing the torture of Billy at Luthor's hands.
"the wizard was originally a shepherd boy born in the land of Canaan." Wow, I guess the biblical references didn't stop with just the figure/name of Solomon. That is honestly pretty cool IMHO.
ACTUALLY IT WASNT....Billy Superhero, name was suppose to be Manzam...until that Cloaked pervert to Billy to that Dark cave....all i know, is he went in Manzam, and came out Shazam!
Billy is a stupidly trusting kid Cloaked figure: where's your house Billy: I don't have a bed. I sleep in the subway Cloaked figure: Follow me! SURE WHY NOT
Soji Adeleke lol... kinda reminded me of that episode of "Brickleberry" where after getting all the blind kids into his van, the clearly pedophilic clown said, "What?... It happened to me & I turned out alright!" or something similar to that...
Damn, how can one guy all by himself be so knowledgeable and funny (in a cool way) at the same time? All your videos are just so entertaining to watch, it's a pleasure. Thank you, dear sir! :)
Robert Marius & "Batman: Under The Red Hood" AMAZO was taken out by Batman & Nightwing... Wait... Am I wrong?... I can't quite remember but I think that was AMAZO whose head was blown off with C4...
If Shazam was changed that drastically in the New 52, that means Dr. Manhattan is so powerful he was able to strip Shazam of his powers and completely rewrite his history. To quote him from the Before Watchmen series, "I am limitless".
Achilles was a Demigod so in a way he could have ascended into godhood. However, he didn't. He died and went to the hell for heroes. Now, King Solomon was a biblical figure that in many ways throughout history has being refer to as the wises king that has ever lived and a god-like being. As a result, we can say that both of these figures can be use as gods to empower Shazam.
Rob.... I have a REALLY good suggestion for you. I know you are gonna love doing a video on him, and I just wanna see how you encounter and explain his "Abilities" and his existance to the viewers. That character is "Cosmic Armor Superman". PLEASE ROB! Do a video on him. I would LOVE to see your take on the character. And your explaination on what he is and how he exists.
Vastly overrated is what he is, it's one of these characters built more on hearsay than feats, given the armor was destroyed the issue after it appeared by an Anti-Monitor level character it failed to destroy, yet somehow people who likely never read the story heard of it and decided it was the most powerful thing ever. It's not even technically the most powerful incarnation of Superman like some claim, because it was basically a Superman shaped Mecha made by Dax Novu the first Monitor (incidentally the same being it failed to destroy), then piloted by the fused together essences of both Superman and Ultraman (fused by basically Doctor Manhattan, or an identical character in every way at least). Put that together and there's not much left of Clark Kent in that equation really, SM1M in that respect serves much better as a ultimate Superman incarnation.
Okay. The cosmic armor is a "thought robot" that exists in an upper dimension, where belief and ideas is largely what controls things things rather than physical actions. The Overmonitor had witnessed Superman in the "germ worlds" that had appeared inside it, and as a reflex made both a giant Superman statue, and a super-people to act as shield between it and the Orrery/multiverse; the Monitors. Through their unknown amount of time (actual time; less than ten years, given they were created during Crisis on Infinite Earths, but in a place where time has no meaning; all the time there ever was) the monitors had stared up at the Superman statue and tried to figure out what it was, and they reasoned it had to be an ultimate protector, a last gift of some ancient early super-monitor, a sentinel to stand against the ultimate evil... and in believing this they not only granted the statue these ultimate powers, they created the ultimate evil for it to fight, in terms of Mandrakk the Dark Vampire Monitor, who lives only because they believe he should. When Mandrakk is then freed by Monitor's fear of him and starts sending destroyer ships that attack all the universes, the mentioned fused being of Superman and Ultraman end up being sent up to possess the Superman statue, who have now become the Cosmic Armor, a thought robot who has Superman's powers to begin with, and who will adapt and increase it's power in order to combat any foe (this is largely where the various arguments for it being the ultimate power comes in, which it could be in theory, but wait). Shortly thereafter Mandrakk is released and battles the Cosmic Armor, each of them growing in power exponentially as their battle goes on possibly for an eternity, Superman eventually manages to throw Mandrakk out of the monitor-worlld for him to fall into the over-mind and be swallowed until not even the memory of him remains. In the process however the cosmic armor was wrecked entirely, it was blind and falling apart, after scratching in the words "To be continued" on it' headstone it died from the injuries it took from Mandrakk, at which Superman and Ultraman reappeared where they had been sent from before. Mandrakk meanwhile reappears at the end of Final Crisis, and is destroyed by an army of multiversal Supermen, the Pax Dei host and the Green Lantern corps. So yeah... that's the cosmic armor. Due to it appearing in a reality where the universe is pictured as an orrery holding fist-sized globes, some belie the armor is bigger than entire universes... except that it exists on a plane were size like time isn't really a thing that can be applied (in fact it's size changes dramatically in the story itself, appearing a hundred times bigger than a Monitor at first, then maybe five times as big, then the same size as one). It's main power is instead of course the adaptability, if you bring along the Anti-Monitor or Nekron or the Living Tribunal, the Cosmic Armor will adapt to fight them and increase in power as needed, purely because that's what the monitors believed it should do, where it used to be just a statue. However the fact that Mandrakk destroyed it before he was cast out, while it failed to do it's job and destroy Mandrakk, while he in turn was annihilated by a small army of powerful but still quite "mundane" characters puts it's power in question. Mandrakk died easier than the Anti-Monitor did, and so was likely weaker, and he in turn was weaker than Nekron, and he in turn is weaker than Imperiex, and he in turn is in theory weaker than Lucifer Morningstar... and if Mandrakk destroyed it then couldn't Lucifer also, likely with some ease at that, as it's toughness obviously does not adapt properly. In the grand scheme of "this thing could totally rip the One Above All to shred" arguments that's one hell of an Achilles heel. Presuming the damn thing would have worked at all outside Monitor space.
Other than the pre-crisis Superman around the Bronze age when he was towing around multiple planets on a single giant chain and destroyed a galaxy by sneezing then went back in time and fixed it, yes, SM1M is the most powerful version. Neither of them is really in continuity though, SM1M is a future alternate Superman that seems to originate from All-Star Superman (which is of a separate continuity) rather than be a version of any mainstream Superman, and pre-crisis Superman was determined in the Crisis on Infinite Earths to be a separate character who was then killed by Superboy prime in Infinite Crisis.
This is a very nicely done video, with a wonderful collection of art from several generations of comics. You did a pretty good job of mashing up the two different histories of the wizard "Shazam" (Jerry Ordway's reboot made some significant differences from the Fawcett/DC version). When you explained the acronym, however, you missed that the "Z" stood for Zeus, who gave the hero "power." And as far as the pronunciation of Vlarem's pantheon goes, don't sweat it. Those gods were made up by the writer of the story in which they first appeared. One major nit-pick, though. The heroic alter-ego of Billy Batson before the New 52 is named Captain Marvel, and there were at least four versions of him. There was the original, who we met in Whiz Comics #2 from Fawcett Publications, and whose stories were picked up by DC in the 1970's, the short-lived post-"Crisis on Infinite Earths" version by Roy Thomas, and the one in Jerry Ordway;s "Power of "Shazam," and the one intorduced in Jeff Smith's "Monster Society of Evil," whose adventures were continued in the Johnny DC title "Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam." Each of these versions of the hero were named "Captain Marvel, and currently, in the Multiverse, the original is living on Earth-5. The only version of the character named "Shazam" is the one in the New 52. One bit of trivia: The original version of the Wizard was, technically, dead. He existed in ghostly form on the Rock of Eternity and could be called to earthby the lighting of a brazier next to his throne in the cave in which Billy first met him. In "Captain Marvel Battles the Plot Against the Universe (Captain Marvel Adventures #100, n947, Fawcett), it was revealed that he wore a bracelet made of "Shazamium," an element not on our periodic table. This bracelet kept him alive inn ghostly form, but if he were to not wear it for 24 hours, he would disappear into nothingness. It;s a great story, in which Dr. Sivana gets a hold of the bracelet, puts it on, turns into a ghost, and blackmails Captain Marvel into helping him conquer the universe. You should check it out, if you haven't already!
Solomon - a Jewish king known for wisdom. Hercules - a Greek demi-god Atlas - a Greek titan Zeus - a Greek god Achilles - a Greek demi-god Mercury - a Roman god matching a certain planet. The greek equivalent was Hermes. If they wanted to be ethnically consistent, they should have picked Socrates and Hermes. Shazah!
abj they probably picked Solomon because his wisdom was directly given by god while Socrates was just a guy who was smart. Plus more kids know who Solomon is.
I can't help but notice that the wizard's "word of power" was an anagram of Marvel, but then made Billy say "Shazam", because suddenly, that's the wizard's name, then called the kid Captain Marvel. That's a mess.
Rob,first of I'm a BIG fan of your work!! My question is,being that I'm a BIG TIME Superman fan,can you please explain Superman's place among the Quintessence. Does Supes understand why they invited him to listen in on their meetings? I would LOVE to see the "Golden Age" Superman as a member of the Quintessence. I'd love your response and keep up the great work!
No, he was not. His father, Peleus, is a human. His mother, Thetis, was a sea nymph. She bathed him in the river Styx, but not his ankles. Hence him being invulnerable except for where his ankles are involved; that's how Paris shot him in the ankle with an arrow which wounded him enough for him to die.
Billy Batson is Captain Marvel. Shazam is Shazam. It's only confusing because they're trying to cram the idea down our throats that Batson is Shazam now.
@Mark Hanson No, for 80 years Billy Batson has been Captain Marvel, and Shazam was the wizard. The character was created in 1939, and now they think they can rewrite history? Nope, it's not right.
I'd love to see/hear more about Marvel's Mephisto! He seems Omega Level and is a super interesting character who looks really different depending on what you're reading. Either way, I'd love to learn more about him.
where does rob find those calm smooth instrumentals that's always in the blackground!!?? I love them!! at the end of big you can always catch a little peace of chillaxation!!!
Doc... You are the man... I can always s re you quickly rebound from the Unexpected. You have a very orderly and focused mind. A lot of people are rattled easily... Not you... You doubled down and refocused on your patient... I love your work and gain a better perspective in pursuit of my personal and professional goals. 👍🏾💪🏾😎
Sometime you should take a look at Alan Moore's riff on Shazam nee Captain Marvel, namely: Marvelman/Miracle Man... ("Kimota!") I know Neil Gaiman's been trying to get the rights from Todd McFarlene to continue the Miracle Man series, which he was writing for the late Eclipse Comics.
DC has a lot of repairing to do concerning the damages they've done to Captain Marvel and SHAZAM. They made a ****ing mess out of one of their greatest heroes.😡
DC's cosmology is inherently different from Marvel's. While in Marvel level of actualized power and level of importance go hand in hand and you got a few omnipotent beings at the top and a pyramid of decreasing power under them, DC is more characterized my a multitude of different primordial forces with different roles, spheres of influence and modes of which to actualize their powers and the DCU itself existing in the interplay of these forces. It has sometimes been said (although I don't know if it's canon following the New52) that all power in the DCU flows from the Source, but the Source itself is not an entity that can wield these powers, but a spring from which it comes, and it's not really conscious in a traditional sense. It has a will, but that will is more like the laws of nature (or Dharma or Tao or the Force in Star Wars) than a person making active decisions. This is true of most of the other strongest forces within the DCU as well, with the major players (like the Endless for example) being just representatives of these cosmic forces rather than actually harboring the powers themselves. If the Marvel universe can be compared to a catholic hierarchy of angels with God on the top, DC is more pantheistic and polytheistic in the way that many forms of Hinduism and Taoism is.
They are fictional characters. You can't say one is more powerful than the other cause u can just write a new story saying they are the strongest. Such a stupid thing to want to know.
Like pious83 said, DC's power higherarchy is pretty complicated but, if I had to ballpark it, I'd say that the most powerful being in DC is probably a six-way tie between The Phantom Stranger, Trigon, The Anti-Monitor, The Spectre, Volthoom, and Darkseid. Unless you're including otherworldly beings, in which case the top is probably either The Pressence, Lucifer Morningstar, or Doctor Manhattan.
Small nitpick. At 5:10 you say "The concept of the Octessence" when you meant Quintessence. Easy to mix-up, but Octessence is from Marvel, the 8 avatars of whom, Juggernaut is one of.
Okay Rob, you wanna do more obscure characters? Who the hell is the Phantom Stranger? I only remember seeing him once the Justice League TV show I think it was, and he was apparently a role model for Bruce. Basically the Batman before Batman. But apparently he's this godlike being??
the Phantom Stranger is Judas Iscariot. He is judged by the Circle of Eternity. For his betrayal of Jesus Christ, he is condemned to walk the earth for eternity as the Phantom Stranger, an agent of God. He then discovers his divine charge: to turn humanity away from evil, one soul at a time. When the Stranger facilitates the transformation of Jim Corrigan into the Spectre, one of the coins falls from the necklace and crumbles, bringing him one step closer to redemption.
Was Phantom Stranger also the guy who called Billy Batson in this video to meet the Wizard? As for Morningstar's story, that kind of discards the Alan Moore story (pre-new-52) which tells the Phantom Stranger is an angelic being from before the time of men, who followed Lucifer merely to inquire about the rebellion. Though he never actually rebelled, yet for having left heaven was condemned to wander the earth.
(1:55) -- Achilles, Sir, was a demigod -- Son of Peleus (a Human King) and Thetis (a Sea Goddess). With Zeus in his Paternal line and Gaia in his Maternal line, it was Heaven and Earth inside the same fists
Could you please do the Phantom Stranger. I've tried to research him but that dudes got like three origins and I can't tell which one is canon and which have been retconned.
Still waiting for the new Unstoppable Juggernaut to go toe to toe with a Hulk. Unfortunately I doubt Amadeus Cho Hulk would last anywhere near as long as Banner might have..
Only time he's outright beaten the Juggernaut was when augmented by Apocalypse into War, all other times the Juggernaut has simply been too powerful. Colossus was even more powerful than Cain (possibly not more than current version though) due to his existing powers, so I doubt WWH would beat him. But deflect him into a swamp or otherwise just contain him, like he did with Cain in WWH vs X-Men, yeah that's something else, as WWH had almost full Banner intelligence. Now Worldbreaker Hulk on the other hand, that's something else, I could see that monster smashing the Juggernaut. Better place the fight on a planet you don't mind losing though.
+Sacremas It would have to be a _disposable_ planet if you were to pit WWH or even Heart of The Monster Hulk against the current Unstoppable Juggernaut. I'd love to see it though. I notice a lot of people seem to underestimate how formidable Juggernaut is. That he has gone one on one against some of the strongest in Marvel and rarely loses.
Vasile Brandsch yeahh thats who i want him to do the video on, hes so op omniscience, omnipotence. All father herc is op glad theres someone elsewho agrees
hyku hes still extremely powerfull healing the mutliverse is quite a feat, becoming the god of gods is op only problem is the way he became so powerfull was a bit boring so its understandable.
DC has a bunch of weird backstory stuff like the Achilles, Solomon thing, like the Lanterns having a bunch that aren't actually emotions greed/compassion/death/life. Still cool characters but it is funny when you notice it.
One of my favorite things about the Wizard is his love of Billy. The Wizard looks at Billy and he sees what he long hoped for: humanity at its best. It seems to have been something fairly consistent for him and why his desire to save Billy in Kingdom Come was so damned poignant. A father watching his beloved son being tormented.Waid and Ross really captured Shazam's misery at witnessing the torture of Billy at Luthor's hands.
"the wizard was originally a shepherd boy born in the land of Canaan."
Wow, I guess the biblical references didn't stop with just the figure/name of Solomon. That is honestly pretty cool IMHO.
agreed
His name is Jedidiah too
Lol, homeless kid and dark cloaked figure. It was a different time.
Come down this alley and suck this hose pipe really hard for 5 dollars.
ACTUALLY IT WASNT....Billy Superhero, name was suppose to be Manzam...until that Cloaked pervert to Billy to that Dark cave....all i know, is he went in Manzam, and came out Shazam!
Are you prouda ya self @@markiegreen5214?
Goofy Goober.......WHY YES!!!!!!
In the movie... "Hold my shaft and say my name!!" Billyyy
Billy is a stupidly trusting kid
Cloaked figure: where's your house
Billy: I don't have a bed. I sleep in the subway
Cloaked figure: Follow me!
SURE WHY NOT
Soji Adeleke lol... kinda reminded me of that episode of "Brickleberry" where after getting all the blind kids into his van, the clearly pedophilic clown said, "What?... It happened to me & I turned out alright!" or something similar to that...
Kids gotta make money somehow
Soji Adeleke can you spell rape and repressed memories
Kid had nothing to lose anyway.
When u ain't got nuthin
Uhhhhhhhhh @ 1:45, you forgot "Z" for the power of Zeus.
I LOVE Shazam's origins and the Shazam universe!
Damn, how can one guy all by himself be so knowledgeable and funny (in a cool way) at the same time? All your videos are just so entertaining to watch, it's a pleasure. Thank you, dear sir! :)
I'd like to see a you making a video where you rank all the Omega level characters of their respective universes in a top 10 of some sorts.
Do the spectre. Even better do Amazo he's on a God level
Deon Hargrove only the Justice League cartoon version is god tier.
Yes comic AMAZO was owned by Batman and Zatanna.
Robert Marius & "Batman: Under The Red Hood" AMAZO was taken out by Batman & Nightwing... Wait... Am I wrong?... I can't quite remember but I think that was AMAZO whose head was blown off with C4...
+DjDragonblade
Pretty sure they where prototypes, not the Original AMAZO, either way comic Amazo, gets destroyed by the Cartoon Version.
But for some reason in the cartoon Justice League Unlimited Amazo struggled to stop Solomon Grundy
If Shazam was changed that drastically in the New 52, that means Dr. Manhattan is so powerful he was able to strip Shazam of his powers and completely rewrite his history. To quote him from the Before Watchmen series, "I am limitless".
Even though Shazam had magical powers?
@@yellowpower3755 i think it might be that doctor manhattan removed the physical source of his magic rather than the magic itself
Hey! One of the "Seven Deadly Sins" is actually "Roger", from "American Dad"!(selfishness-3:40)
Yo, I was just thinking that as I watched. "Holy shit, tell me that one don't look like Roger!"
Yyyyup! Hahaha. And tell me that Roger isn't the embodiment of Selfishness!
Nah that's Meliodas
@@jerryyeo5037 The sin of Greed or selfishness is Ban
Green Man and Roger actually is selfish lmao!!!
Dr Manhattan " Magic is the scraps from the big bang " dr Manhattan would've done a quick work of him
Doc would do a quick work of anyone
Except for maybe the genie from Aladdin
Do lucifer Morningstar next
or Michael
YES
David Levy Great idea!
Yeah he's the most powerful thing god created piece
I thought he was Samael!? -_-
omg did Rob actually know dwayne was gonna play him before he mentioned him as a joke??? or was that just a coincidence
Achilles was a Demigod so in a way he could have ascended into godhood. However, he didn't. He died and went to the hell for heroes. Now, King Solomon was a biblical figure that in many ways throughout history has being refer to as the wises king that has ever lived and a god-like being. As a result, we can say that both of these figures can be use as gods to empower Shazam.
well since you are planning to do some DC characters i would love to see a beyond omega level of the mask, that would be pretty fucking cool.
Rob.... I have a REALLY good suggestion for you. I know you are gonna love doing a video on him, and I just wanna see how you encounter and explain his "Abilities" and his existance to the viewers. That character is "Cosmic Armor Superman". PLEASE ROB! Do a video on him. I would LOVE to see your take on the character. And your explaination on what he is and how he exists.
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Vastly overrated is what he is, it's one of these characters built more on hearsay than feats, given the armor was destroyed the issue after it appeared by an Anti-Monitor level character it failed to destroy, yet somehow people who likely never read the story heard of it and decided it was the most powerful thing ever. It's not even technically the most powerful incarnation of Superman like some claim, because it was basically a Superman shaped Mecha made by Dax Novu the first Monitor (incidentally the same being it failed to destroy), then piloted by the fused together essences of both Superman and Ultraman (fused by basically Doctor Manhattan, or an identical character in every way at least). Put that together and there's not much left of Clark Kent in that equation really, SM1M in that respect serves much better as a ultimate Superman incarnation.
Okay. The cosmic armor is a "thought robot" that exists in an upper dimension, where belief and ideas is largely what controls things things rather than physical actions. The Overmonitor had witnessed Superman in the "germ worlds" that had appeared inside it, and as a reflex made both a giant Superman statue, and a super-people to act as shield between it and the Orrery/multiverse; the Monitors. Through their unknown amount of time (actual time; less than ten years, given they were created during Crisis on Infinite Earths, but in a place where time has no meaning; all the time there ever was) the monitors had stared up at the Superman statue and tried to figure out what it was, and they reasoned it had to be an ultimate protector, a last gift of some ancient early super-monitor, a sentinel to stand against the ultimate evil... and in believing this they not only granted the statue these ultimate powers, they created the ultimate evil for it to fight, in terms of Mandrakk the Dark Vampire Monitor, who lives only because they believe he should.
When Mandrakk is then freed by Monitor's fear of him and starts sending destroyer ships that attack all the universes, the mentioned fused being of Superman and Ultraman end up being sent up to possess the Superman statue, who have now become the Cosmic Armor, a thought robot who has Superman's powers to begin with, and who will adapt and increase it's power in order to combat any foe (this is largely where the various arguments for it being the ultimate power comes in, which it could be in theory, but wait). Shortly thereafter Mandrakk is released and battles the Cosmic Armor, each of them growing in power exponentially as their battle goes on possibly for an eternity, Superman eventually manages to throw Mandrakk out of the monitor-worlld for him to fall into the over-mind and be swallowed until not even the memory of him remains. In the process however the cosmic armor was wrecked entirely, it was blind and falling apart, after scratching in the words "To be continued" on it' headstone it died from the injuries it took from Mandrakk, at which Superman and Ultraman reappeared where they had been sent from before. Mandrakk meanwhile reappears at the end of Final Crisis, and is destroyed by an army of multiversal Supermen, the Pax Dei host and the Green Lantern corps.
So yeah... that's the cosmic armor. Due to it appearing in a reality where the universe is pictured as an orrery holding fist-sized globes, some belie the armor is bigger than entire universes... except that it exists on a plane were size like time isn't really a thing that can be applied (in fact it's size changes dramatically in the story itself, appearing a hundred times bigger than a Monitor at first, then maybe five times as big, then the same size as one). It's main power is instead of course the adaptability, if you bring along the Anti-Monitor or Nekron or the Living Tribunal, the Cosmic Armor will adapt to fight them and increase in power as needed, purely because that's what the monitors believed it should do, where it used to be just a statue. However the fact that Mandrakk destroyed it before he was cast out, while it failed to do it's job and destroy Mandrakk, while he in turn was annihilated by a small army of powerful but still quite "mundane" characters puts it's power in question. Mandrakk died easier than the Anti-Monitor did, and so was likely weaker, and he in turn was weaker than Nekron, and he in turn is weaker than Imperiex, and he in turn is in theory weaker than Lucifer Morningstar... and if Mandrakk destroyed it then couldn't Lucifer also, likely with some ease at that, as it's toughness obviously does not adapt properly. In the grand scheme of "this thing could totally rip the One Above All to shred" arguments that's one hell of an Achilles heel. Presuming the damn thing would have worked at all outside Monitor space.
Sacremas so SM1M Is the most powerful superman?
Other than the pre-crisis Superman around the Bronze age when he was towing around multiple planets on a single giant chain and destroyed a galaxy by sneezing then went back in time and fixed it, yes, SM1M is the most powerful version. Neither of them is really in continuity though, SM1M is a future alternate Superman that seems to originate from All-Star Superman (which is of a separate continuity) rather than be a version of any mainstream Superman, and pre-crisis Superman was determined in the Crisis on Infinite Earths to be a separate character who was then killed by Superboy prime in Infinite Crisis.
I like the Dwayne Johnson easter egg you included. A very nice touch. I can't wait to see him "rock," the role of Black Adam!
This is a very nicely done video, with a wonderful collection of art from several generations of comics. You did a pretty good job of mashing up the two different histories of the wizard "Shazam" (Jerry Ordway's reboot made some significant differences from the Fawcett/DC version). When you explained the acronym, however, you missed that the "Z" stood for Zeus, who gave the hero "power."
And as far as the pronunciation of Vlarem's pantheon goes, don't sweat it. Those gods were made up by the writer of the story in which they first appeared.
One major nit-pick, though. The heroic alter-ego of Billy Batson before the New 52 is named Captain Marvel, and there were at least four versions of him. There was the original, who we met in Whiz Comics #2 from Fawcett Publications, and whose stories were picked up by DC in the 1970's, the short-lived post-"Crisis on Infinite Earths" version by Roy Thomas, and the one in Jerry Ordway;s "Power of "Shazam," and the one intorduced in Jeff Smith's "Monster Society of Evil," whose adventures were continued in the Johnny DC title "Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam." Each of these versions of the hero were named "Captain Marvel, and currently, in the Multiverse, the original is living on Earth-5. The only version of the character named "Shazam" is the one in the New 52.
One bit of trivia: The original version of the Wizard was, technically, dead. He existed in ghostly form on the Rock of Eternity and could be called to earthby the lighting of a brazier next to his throne in the cave in which Billy first met him. In "Captain Marvel Battles the Plot Against the Universe (Captain Marvel Adventures #100, n947, Fawcett), it was revealed that he wore a bracelet made of "Shazamium," an element not on our periodic table. This bracelet kept him alive inn ghostly form, but if he were to not wear it for 24 hours, he would disappear into nothingness. It;s a great story, in which Dr. Sivana gets a hold of the bracelet, puts it on, turns into a ghost, and blackmails Captain Marvel into helping him conquer the universe. You should check it out, if you haven't already!
1:44 Sir you forgot the power of Zues
phantom stranger origin? love your stuff rob, keep it up man
I love that we are talking more about Shazam! Leaning more everyday!
Solomon - a Jewish king known for wisdom.
Hercules - a Greek demi-god
Atlas - a Greek titan
Zeus - a Greek god
Achilles - a Greek demi-god
Mercury - a Roman god matching a certain planet. The greek equivalent was Hermes.
If they wanted to be ethnically consistent, they should have picked Socrates and Hermes. Shazah!
abj they probably picked Solomon because his wisdom was directly given by god while Socrates was just a guy who was smart. Plus more kids know who Solomon is.
La El yeah but Azham isn’t as catchy
Also Heracles
An ancient egyptian man named... The Brahma Bull. He was the most electrifying man on earth.
Can we get a video on the Phantom Stranger
I can listen to Rob drop knowledge about the Shazam-verse every damn day.... #RobCorpStandUp
I can't help but notice that the wizard's "word of power" was an anagram of Marvel, but then made Billy say "Shazam", because suddenly, that's the wizard's name, then called the kid Captain Marvel. That's a mess.
classic comic book rewrites
Johnny Sorrow was able to turn the Wizard to stone with his gaze. Also somewhere along the line Billy Batson briefly took over the Wizard's duties.
Billy will allways be captain marvel, no matter which agreement DC and Marvel made
Mar Vel*
Lucas Perez the name shazam is way better in my opinion
Solomon - Human
Hercules - Demi God
Atlas - Titan
Zeus - Greek God
Achilles - Demi God
Mercury - Roman God
Rob,first of I'm a BIG fan of your work!! My question is,being that I'm a BIG TIME Superman fan,can you please explain Superman's place among the Quintessence. Does Supes understand why they invited him to listen in on their meetings? I would LOVE to see the "Golden Age" Superman as a member of the Quintessence. I'd love your response and keep up the great work!
Nabu vs the wizard?
Do the great evil beast or the specter next for D.C.
"SHAAM"? I think you forgot to mention Zues when you explained the acronym.
4:01 this aged well
Cuz he’s playing black Adam?
I liked how you threw in The Rock's name as Black Adam!!!! 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😉😉😉😆😆😆
Do how to kill uncle Ben
Oh that's easy
Leave him in the microwave to long.
@@ryateo1 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't feel so good Mr stark
First things first open the door for his killer on the way out
Achilles is a demi God
No, he was not. His father, Peleus, is a human. His mother, Thetis, was a sea nymph. She bathed him in the river Styx, but not his ankles. Hence him being invulnerable except for where his ankles are involved; that's how Paris shot him in the ankle with an arrow which wounded him enough for him to die.
The Gotham Goliath Nymphs are basically lower goddesses. He still counts as a demigod
Sure, I guess if you count sons of sea deities as goddesses, then he's a demigod.
Thetis is the daughter of Nereus, who is a god.
@@ONAStonards thetis herself isnt a goddes tho
You should name this Omega and beyond
What if the Wizard is Billy from a different time ... after black Adam he decides there can only be one Shazam!!
Billy Batson is Captain Marvel. Shazam is Shazam. It's only confusing because they're trying to cram the idea down our throats that Batson is Shazam now.
@Mark Hanson No, for 80 years Billy Batson has been Captain Marvel, and Shazam was the wizard. The character was created in 1939, and now they think they can rewrite history? Nope, it's not right.
I'd love to see/hear more about Marvel's Mephisto! He seems Omega Level and is a super interesting character who looks really different depending on what you're reading. Either way, I'd love to learn more about him.
Can you do the Phantom Stranger, he's pretty interesting
This was absolutely my favorite video you have done thus far sir
Do phantom stranger
Achilles is a demigod. Great warrior,invinurebility excepting his famous week point.
The Wizard 🧙♂️ already revealed that Shazam was his adopted name his name is Mamaragan
“Named Dwayne Johnson” I never get tired of this video lol
Well the movies pretty good.
Great explaination on the origin of the original Captain Marvel's wizard.
Is it just me or almost every character in comics is beyond omega level
where does rob find those calm smooth instrumentals that's always in the blackground!!?? I love them!! at the end of big you can always catch a little peace of chillaxation!!!
Pls do a video on the overmoniter
The Wizard would destroy Dr. Strange
Marchall White no shit
Marchall White since shazam is Omni everything he could destroy dr strange before he even knows about shazam
Marchall White the Vishanti would destroy the Wizard
He'd esaily destroy post- retcon Dr. Strange, but might be somewhat equal with the Pre- retcon version.
They ARE powerful,but below Chaos/Order who are below Eternity.
Do Imperiex next he can literally wield the Big Bang and has the power to create black holes that can suck up universes
Doc... You are the man... I can always s re you quickly rebound from the Unexpected. You have a very orderly and focused mind. A lot of people are rattled easily... Not you... You doubled down and refocused on your patient... I love your work and gain a better perspective in pursuit of my personal and professional goals. 👍🏾💪🏾😎
Sometime you should take a look at Alan Moore's riff on Shazam nee Captain Marvel, namely: Marvelman/Miracle Man... ("Kimota!") I know Neil Gaiman's been trying to get the rights from Todd McFarlene to continue the Miracle Man series, which he was writing for the late Eclipse Comics.
Well, Gaiman has likely stopped trying to get the rights from McFarlane, with Marvel having the rights and all.
Great video. Thank God New 52 is effectively being corrected!
DC has a lot of repairing to do concerning the damages they've done to Captain Marvel and SHAZAM. They made a ****ing mess out of one of their greatest heroes.😡
John Penza my thoughts exactly, he's just confusing the non comics fans and pleasing Marvel Fanboys.
Totally agree
An explained video on the Phantom Stranger would be cool.
Hey rob you did a marvel power hierarchy and it seemed really popular how about doing a dc one?
He said before he tried, but DC's tier system is far more convoluted than Marvels, so he couldn't do it in a way that made sense.
DC's cosmology is inherently different from Marvel's. While in Marvel level of actualized power and level of importance go hand in hand and you got a few omnipotent beings at the top and a pyramid of decreasing power under them, DC is more characterized my a multitude of different primordial forces with different roles, spheres of influence and modes of which to actualize their powers and the DCU itself existing in the interplay of these forces. It has sometimes been said (although I don't know if it's canon following the New52) that all power in the DCU flows from the Source, but the Source itself is not an entity that can wield these powers, but a spring from which it comes, and it's not really conscious in a traditional sense. It has a will, but that will is more like the laws of nature (or Dharma or Tao or the Force in Star Wars) than a person making active decisions. This is true of most of the other strongest forces within the DCU as well, with the major players (like the Endless for example) being just representatives of these cosmic forces rather than actually harboring the powers themselves.
If the Marvel universe can be compared to a catholic hierarchy of angels with God on the top, DC is more pantheistic and polytheistic in the way that many forms of Hinduism and Taoism is.
instead of doing another power hierarchy, do some intelligence hierarchy which is something DC really has, ex: Brainiac's 12th level intelligence
They are fictional characters. You can't say one is more powerful than the other cause u can just write a new story saying they are the strongest. Such a stupid thing to want to know.
Like pious83 said, DC's power higherarchy is pretty complicated but, if I had to ballpark it, I'd say that the most powerful being in DC is probably a six-way tie between The Phantom Stranger, Trigon, The Anti-Monitor, The Spectre, Volthoom, and Darkseid. Unless you're including otherworldly beings, in which case the top is probably either The Pressence, Lucifer Morningstar, or Doctor Manhattan.
4 years later & Dwayne Johnson is playing Black Adam😂👏🏿🔥🔥
Small nitpick. At 5:10 you say "The concept of the Octessence" when you meant Quintessence. Easy to mix-up, but Octessence is from Marvel, the 8 avatars of whom, Juggernaut is one of.
I love ur sense of humor Rob.
please keep doing this for dc
I want to see two videos a day! Idc what it is as long as it's not a comic comercial.
Okay Rob, you wanna do more obscure characters?
Who the hell is the Phantom Stranger?
I only remember seeing him once the Justice League TV show I think it was, and he was apparently a role model for Bruce. Basically the Batman before Batman. But apparently he's this godlike being??
Social Account he is, although he's hardly that obscure, but I can see how someone doesn't know much of him.
the Phantom Stranger is Judas Iscariot. He is judged by the Circle of Eternity. For his betrayal of Jesus Christ, he is condemned to walk the earth for eternity as the Phantom Stranger, an agent of God. He then discovers his divine charge: to turn humanity away from evil, one soul at a time. When the Stranger facilitates the transformation of Jim Corrigan into the Spectre, one of the coins falls from the necklace and crumbles, bringing him one step closer to redemption.
Social Account You're thinking of the Grey Ghost, from BTAS. The Phantom Stranger is a completely different character.
Morningstar 35 You are thinking about the 52 Phantom Stranger not "The Phantom Stranger".
Was Phantom Stranger also the guy who called Billy Batson in this video to meet the Wizard?
As for Morningstar's story, that kind of discards the Alan Moore story (pre-new-52) which tells the Phantom Stranger is an angelic being from before the time of men, who followed Lucifer merely to inquire about the rebellion. Though he never actually rebelled, yet for having left heaven was condemned to wander the earth.
i'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AN EXPLANATION OF THE WIZARD SHAZAM. THANK YOU IDOL. I LOVE YOU!
Dwayne Johnson would be more believable.
Megavicid you just sound salty to me.
David Craft actually you might be the salty one, he IS overrated, however he looks like he'd make a good Black Adam
If he looses a ton of muscle maybe
Tired of seeing Dwayne Johnson, it almost seems like every movie he starred in is inevitably going to suck.
Damn fr tho
(1:55) -- Achilles, Sir, was a demigod -- Son of Peleus (a Human King) and Thetis (a Sea Goddess). With Zeus in his Paternal line and Gaia in his Maternal line, it was Heaven and Earth inside the same fists
DUDE YOU PREDICTED DWAYNE JOHNSON AS BLACK ADAM THREE YEARS AGO
The comics community has been saying THE rock should be Black Adam for like 7 years mow
i like learning about new characters :)
Can you do a video on the phantom stranger?
SCASFilms f
You know what might be fun is doing the characters from "American Gods". Lotta legwork, but totally worth it.
can pls do something about the Phantom Stranger Im really intreged about this charakter
4:00 bro predicted the future
Please do The Phantom Stranger.
Rob you always have such amazing outro music themes, it would be great if you could also post the source in the description. Keep up the amazing work!
Omega level Full powered Superman
Star Brand..beyond Omega Level..Rob do it
This was good
The wizard got a wicked tan in the new 52. My man musta have conjured up a tanning bed
Could you please do the Phantom Stranger. I've tried to research him but that dudes got like three origins and I can't tell which one is canon and which have been retconned.
The fact that he has multiple origins is what makes him the Stranger. Most tend to accept the Alan Moore version.
You should do the phantom stranger, you've never given an origin story or anything of the sorts. Two birds one stone?
some of these “gods” aren’t even in the same mythos
Classic Rob, new Rob I have to play at x0.75 speed as he talks too fast gives me anxiety!
Can you please do unstoppable colossus vs world war hulk
Still waiting for the new Unstoppable Juggernaut to go toe to toe with a Hulk. Unfortunately I doubt Amadeus Cho Hulk would last anywhere near as long as Banner might have..
Jenelle Perry Bruh what the fuck? That's entirely false, he broke his arms, that was juggernaut who he tricked to going unstoppable
Jenelle Perry no that was juggernaut you uneducated swine
Only time he's outright beaten the Juggernaut was when augmented by Apocalypse into War, all other times the Juggernaut has simply been too powerful. Colossus was even more powerful than Cain (possibly not more than current version though) due to his existing powers, so I doubt WWH would beat him. But deflect him into a swamp or otherwise just contain him, like he did with Cain in WWH vs X-Men, yeah that's something else, as WWH had almost full Banner intelligence.
Now Worldbreaker Hulk on the other hand, that's something else, I could see that monster smashing the Juggernaut. Better place the fight on a planet you don't mind losing though.
+Sacremas It would have to be a _disposable_ planet if you were to pit WWH or even Heart of The Monster Hulk against the current Unstoppable Juggernaut. I'd love to see it though. I notice a lot of people seem to underestimate how formidable Juggernaut is. That he has gone one on one against some of the strongest in Marvel and rarely loses.
He was immortal, except for his heel, and his mother was a goddess.
why have you not done BLUE MARVEL yet or any other black beyond omega level characters
THEFINALBOSS Playa, Rob did a 4 or 5 issue series about the blue marvel from marvel... Check his archives... Its there...
THEFINALBOSS Why does it matter if their black?
Race is irrelevant
He did a video on Chaos king. I doubt you can get blacker than that.
@@TheSuperdarklord100 "Mr popo disagrees"
Zor!!! So crazy powerful/obscure! It'll be perfect!!
Did I miss a video? Who's the Phantom Stranger?
Judas Iscariot... Apparently. According to New 52 at least.
Rob you should do Blue Marvel next. That guy is OP as hell!
Could you please do all-father hercules from choas wars, hes as strong as the choas king who was stronger then eternity.
Rahul Malik He was killed by Chaos War Hercules in one punch. So i guess Rob should do a video on Herc
Vasile Brandsch yeahh thats who i want him to do the video on, hes so op omniscience, omnipotence. All father herc is op glad theres someone elsewho agrees
He's overrated
hyku hes still extremely powerfull healing the mutliverse is quite a feat, becoming the god of gods is op only problem is the way he became so powerfull was a bit boring so its understandable.
Rahul Malik molecule man, beyonder, the alien entity and sise neg are capable of that feat, so did white phoenix of the crown
DC has a bunch of weird backstory stuff like the Achilles, Solomon thing, like the Lanterns having a bunch that aren't actually emotions greed/compassion/death/life. Still cool characters but it is funny when you notice it.
HIS NAME ISN'T Shazam. It's Captain Marvel.
Herbert Leggieri I still call him that.
Gordon, the true hero of the channel
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He’s above the one above all
i always find funny when people try to scream "softly" 2:04
You wanted to dip your hand in a 9000 year old man? lol
"IS THERE NO-ONE ELSE???" (18 people stepped back into line)
That movie was intense, and I ENJOYED IT ENTIRELY. That is all.
Which movie?