Proxies probably: I didn't want to get hurt so I made sure to max out my defense. Unfortunately I do not have any points left I can invest into stamina 😅
They have ocular implants, we know that since the beginning but the fact that they survived the explosion from up close but are incredibly weak when physically inside a Hollow leads me to believe that while the siblings are humans, they might not technically be real humans. We know so little of the academy that, for all we know Belle and Wise are modified humans or even artificial ones created in hopes of dealing with Hollows
right! they never talk about a mother or father. instead it's their teacher. some people even speculate that they're not really siblings, it would match with them being synthetic humans.
@rungunninja1289 I would say they have some kind of hollow corruption, remember the unknown corruption complex aka Sacrifice at the end of chapter 2, it seem at the time it made some kind of connection with the proxy
@@KN-cl2tu i would agree and the villain prolly etherial mixed type or etherial turned human or some cult as they keep reciting "creator". my theory is their teacher did the experiment however halfway hesitate to continue, . plus considering the enemy trying infilterate hoshimi clan (aiming miyabi) must quite powerful backing prolly position of t.o.p.s.
Now, the ability to connect to a Bangboo isn't just Phaeton's ability, there's an event where a secret person got a similar technology from TOPS. The main thing is everything else from the twins.
That may have been the only time ive seen belle and wise be fucking angry Not "Oh you accidentally deleted my save file?" Kind of angry its a parental figure kind of angry
@@slair4297 They did nothing in the fall of Old Eridu tho, T.O.P.S are most likely to be the main culprit and Carole is probaby deeply involved into this mess, that's maybe why Bringer said that line...because phaeton sibling are in denial about the truth of their teacher.
@@slair4297if you mean their eyes, i think those are just their occular implants (which to my understanding allow them to connect and see from Eous' eyes)
@@averagemumeienjoyer5498 you mean Soldier 11 faction? There's also a sniper ("appeared" in the S11 agent story) in her faction hope he/she is playable when they get announced.
Lol, that'd be a nice idea - at one point in the next arc, something happens that renders Eous powerless, so the MC has to take to the field due to it being the only way to get the job done
Interesting that Bringer said his mission was complete when he thought he'd offed Carole Arna's students. There might be a very good reason for them to be keeping that info close to their chest beyond just not wanting to be associated with the official H0 culprit. As for whether or not they're human... I think they are, but modified somehow, likely in relation to whatever causes their eyes to flicker in the presence of sacrifices. I'm thinking whatever that is has some way of shielding them from sacrifices specifically, explaining why despite having a low constitution and a condition that keeps them largely out of hollows they were able to survive Bringer's kaboom despite the point-blank range.
What's in their eyes are ocular implants, but I think they allow for the proxies to connect to Eous. But maybe they do more than just that, I'm not sure.
@@KyuubiDragon4During the quest, they often mentioned about the ocular implants, especially after being thrown into a Hollow, breaking them for a while
obviously they aren't humans. belle knows what rizz is, and wise can pull practically everyone in the game (except belle i sincerely apologise for making such an outdated comment
That light in their eyes is the same as the one that appears when they use their bangbuu. And if I remember correctly, in this chapter it is said that they have implants This seems very similar to Belebog's ethereal, it also caused Belle/Wise the same thing even through Bangbuu. But I think it's not because they're not human, I think it's just the implants that suffer some kind of disruption or something else.
You right, maybe they implants have the capacity to absorb Ether but to protect them for suffer damage, or maybe they implants have more capacities that they don't know. Also, i have some doubts of they teacher, because It feel like experimentation with living beings, and they are not really siblings but adopted.
It could be that they are some reverse ethereal hybrid. You know, the kind that CAN'T exist in hollows. And it would be the reason why their aptitude is so small. Or they are heavily modified humans...
They're probably either genetically modified or cybernetically modified humans. The eye implants could be just the start of it for the siblings and there's still a lot of mystery to what else is being held back
_I do genuinely wonder if the Twin's roles as "Proxies" mean something a little bit more on the nose_ , wall of text, but I think Carol's project of building Hollow Zero wasn't to hurt Old Eridu, but rather use the Hollows to _recreate_ what they originally took, a way to control the "chaos" it brings, in a sense; it's creating _Proxies_ Hollows already have this whole "copying" aspects to it, with the enclosed environment basically making a poor "proxy" of what it swallowed up. Buildings built weird, Roads that lead to nowhere, hell- Alleyways can lead you inside buildings or on top of them with no rhyme or reason. There's already "Doppelgangers" popping up that opens a bunch of worms on top of this. The Hollow itself always seems to be trying to copy/replicate whatever it swallowed up, but at times it fails to recreate it; imagine like it's Lego, it's like someone scooping up a build into a bag, shaking it, and trying to re-create everything inside of it w/o an instruction. I truly wonder if Belle/Wise are part "Ethereals"; and not in the normal sense, they did state that Carole saved them, but what if somehow she used a "purified Ether" or something along those lines; something that's actually able to recreate things properly, and using that Lego analogy, _something with an instruction to do it properly_
I agree! It will be crazy if Wise and Belle supposedly died or something but using the replication energy, maybe it created the Belle and Wise we know? And I did read others theories like they're actually belong to Hollow or something? 🤔 There is also that one theory that said they could go havoc and became ethereals the longer they're in the Hollow and that's why they use Bamboo instead? Anyways, I'm hooked with all these conspiracies theories, bro. The theories just keep getting better
@@Giovansbilly Basically yeah, the way Hollows + Originium almost works the same if you really think about it They're both technically catastrophe's that pop out of nowhere, they corrupt whatever is inside, and long exposures to them leads to infection/corruption in one way or another, and Ether + Originium are also used as a form of power source in their respective worlds.
There may be more merit to that than expected. The serum Bringer injected into himself seems like a controlled either corruption as he's clearly corrupted and yet manages to maintain his mind making me believe the sacrifice from chapter 2 was injected with a less refined version of it. It's more than likely that Vision created this serum via Carol's research.
There may be more merit to that than expected. The serum Bringee injected into himself seems like a controlled either corruption as he's clearly corrupted and yet manages to maintain his mind making me believe the sacrifice from chapter 2 was injected with a less refined version of it. It's more than likely that Vision created this serum via Carol's research.
Besides them have the ability to sync with their bangboo, do any of you remember about the earlier story where Fairy first appear? Didn't the AI talk to Belle/Wise while they asleep? And their sibling didn't noticed anything until they've been informed by the protagonist? I mean, how the heck a technology able to talk to them in their mind that one time? Now I think they somewhat like Qingyi, a robot with very human like feature but more complicated. Oh and you guys also remember that time Qingyi appear to save us right on time when they almost got caught during the investigation at random play? She said Fairy is the one who send the help messege to her and I'm sure Fairy didn't contacted her using a phone.
As far as I understand from their conversations, their eye implants allow them to communicate with others as well, or they have a built-in earphone. They are most likely partially cyborgs, but not robots. Since they are in pain, they get tired, the sibling almost died and maybe their eye implants are too cheater thing capable of creating a shield.
@@phangugi1829 They could be artificial humans (lab grown) cause we really don't know anything about their past aside from knowing how they were raised by their teacher. Could also probably explain why they can't last long inside of Hollow because of whatever's necessary for a regular being to resist ether corruption is missing or probably really weak for them
If they have ocular modification, perhaps they are modified even further? Their teacher created 0 ping bangboo connection, maybe she created a lot more technologies that siblings used to enhance themselfs...
@@Hamlettte according to Ashikai’s theory that has been proven by the game. Hollows are known affecting Ai, logical cores, information etc. Could it be that their low ether resistance somehow connected with this?
@@TanyaKory We don't actually know their ether aptitude. In particular if low ether humans are over whelmed by ether corruption they become monsters. But the MC just passes out and shows no lasting effects. This is similar to how the genshin and hsr protagonists do not seems to have long term effects from the bad in their universe. They're hurt by it, but they don't suffer the normal in universe corruption effects.
Kiana - Herrscher Aether / Lumine - Immortal at least (Idk never went pass Mondstat) Stelle / Caelus - Stellaron / Artificial Being Yeah, Hoyo's MC will not just be any ordinary human.
@LigerSuperstar Ather and Lunine don't age. Apparently they've seen stars be born and die. Meaning they're millions of years old. Oh and you forgot Kiana is a clone of 2 people so double not human.
If we are talking about "real identity" Kiana: K423/Sirin reincarnation= Hersscher of Finality Aether Lumine- Ruler of destroyed world Stelle Caelus: ??? So far we only know them as the old member of Steleron hunter, but still don't know who they really are except for the fact they use Stelleron power.
Kiana: Tuna God Princess Aether/Lumine: Siblings Separated to become the Avatar Stelle/Caelus: Nuclear Trash Panda Wise/Belle: Cinephile Hacker with Severe Mentor issues also possibly not Human.
Okay for everyone arguing in the comments about the same bloody points. YES they have implants that help them synchronize with Eous when they connect trough the H.D.D system. BOTH of them have weak Ether aptitude. TOPS has a way inferior version of the twins tech because they tried to reverse engineer it from Carole Arnas tech that she made based on Old civilization technology. The IMPLANT alone should not have protected them from a POINT BLANK EXPLOSION, so there is something else going on. ALSO the fact that the music goes all dramatic only when they show that the twins survived and that their eyes are glowing means that the developers wanted to POINT IT OUT that there is something extra with the twins. We dont have nearly enough lore bits to get a proper theory going but the BEST BET is that Carole Arna is somehow connected to the Old Civ and the Hollow Cultists that want to evolve somehow with Ether energy. I personally think that Carole augmented the twins with a mix of Old Civ tech and Ethereal stuff and the reason they have weak Ether aptitude is because the Ethereal part wants to take over. Probably something about Carole working for or with the Cult but did not want the twins to turn into monsters hence why they are still human even after the experiments. This is all speculation mind you but the first part of this comment is all that we know in broad strokes.
0:13 did anyone notice eous just unsummon a fissure? Dude instantly locked in(from dead stare into hatred for bringer) the moment the fissure was closed. Could bro secretly have the power to open/close fissures inside hollows, could be why they always know where fissures may open, because eous is literally the one opening them, that's why he's the best bangboo for diving hollows. Think of the conveniently placed fissure at the end of the credit scene leading exactly to the severed remnant of bringer. They're (or just eous) not only good at navigating through fissures, but also materialising them.
though it is would extremely awesome, I don't think that would be the case. If Eous really could have just created fissures anywhere it wants, but was only trying to hide it, I think Wise/Belle would have used that ability during the Inferno race in the outer ring. the one where Caesar had to drive and dive into a pool of lava.
But then that would literally negate them to being actually good proxies if they could just have eous materialise a fissure anywhere it wants like whats the purpose of giding agents if they could just do that this whole time
0:56 the way their eyes glows is so cool, little theory what if the proxy siblings are a mimetic kind of entity sorta like they made out of data... kinda like black swan (also the theme were they show it might give us the hint that the siblings are more than meets the eye)
I remember a few days ago I viewed the cutscene where the siblings visited their teacher again a second time and thought to myself, "Imagine if Arna artificially created these two siblings as some ether related experiment, and saved them during the fall of the Old Capital to preserve her work". Guess I somewhat predicted it.
I'm not surprised. Every HoYoverse's MCs are not human. Kiana is a clone, Travelers is from otherworld (possibly not human but transcendent), Trailblazers is also born not a humanlike (experiments maybe?), now the Proxys also not a human so i kinda expect that. The only human MC from Hoyo's game is Rosa from Tears of Themis
@@jetistheswampert9166 no, their body was created to host the stellaron. Prior to that you already a stellaron that stayed with the Stellaron hunter. That why you are immune to stellaron contamination
“Ravel in the fantasy of searching for a real villain” sounds like he is absolutely certain the twins can’t find the real culprit, cause what if the real culprit were the twins? The choice of music is interesting as well after the explosion, sounds like something distorted, ominous, like something shouldn’t existed has appeared. This is very interesting
Oh maybe, I was thinking their teacher but you might be right, hell bringer started glitching after he exploded the same thing happened with the twins eyes, it’s a small detail and maybe it has no correlation, but maybe they were a product of their teachers experimentation with ether
makes sense considering the beginning cutscene when we get fairy and the fact that time travel is mentioned multiple times by NPCs. also adds to the fact of the mythology behind the name "phaethon"
@@DI.0King Yeah and we all shouldnt forget the suspicious ass Scene in 1.0 When the characters suddenly saw a strange part of unkown events from the future or what ever it was.
While i do agree they're not 100%, they're not robots either. More than likely, they're probably cyborgs, considering they have low ether aptitude and seem to have humanly body functions.
@ thing of the hollow field as an AT field and anything from the other side cant goes over to this side, considering Hoyos love for Evangelion, lets assume that if the ether can operate like an AT field they can mold and shape itself into different forms one such is human and the other is the Angels. What if the institute that their teacher was part off made experiments to possibly inject or engineer a human consciousness onto the Ether to create a new form of human, they’re basically Kaworu. Lmao I’m just pulling my ass but hey it’s an interesting theory.
@@kai-jf2vdthey aren't just weak to it but actively absorb more. It's why Billy calls it a condition during chapter 4 at the beginning when they enter a hollow
Theyre Most likely modified human, or half cyborg unlike qinyi and billy since they need eat sleep and dont have recharge station. and regarding eyes Sibling said themselves that is implant that allow them interact with electronic
I suspect they have a certain power to control the fissure entrance within the hollow, something like a hack or eous augment to quickly generate carrot on overclocked speed.. perhaps thats why they had a glitch effect.
Yeah, my theory is that the two of them is or somekind of experiment, or in the Hollow Zero(when the Hollow Zero Was formed) they gained this Power, because it seems that the "explosion" of Ether to make Hollow Zero Was like, in front of them
I love the detail of Wise putting his arms protective around Belle and he's the first to hold his hand up to "shield" them when the explosion happens. Meanwhile, Belle is the first to go after the hand while it dissappears. Wise is still always pretective of Belle, while Belle is still the more impulsive type. In terms of them potentially being playable one day, id love to them be a "dual" unit with Belle doing most of the offensive attacks while Wise switching in to do defensive and dodges.
Those are the SAME eyes that appear when the connect to eous, the first cutscene showcasing what it looks like when they log on. I have a feeling their teacher did in fact cause the hollows BUT a main detail of how it occurred is tied to bell and wise. Like they were lab rats. Maybe they have an ability to connect with technology or hollow energy
It's likely that explosion wasn't a typical explosion, but some kind of ethereal attack. Since they could have ether tech in them -- it might have disrupted that attack just enough to prevent it from harming them. We don't know much about ether, so the range of assumptions we can make is pretty wide. The implants were also glowing when Eous approached the Sacrifice which sent some sort of pulse. Maybe the tech that lets them connect to Eous and see through him, maintain comms and read Hollow environment is based on ether, which is not surprising since they are from Helios academy that studied Hollows. Thus, their lences react to other ether tech. Who knows, maybe their eye implants was one of the first attempts to splice human biology with ether tech that doesn't lead to biological transformations, while Sacrifice serum is on the wole other level. On both Sacrifices you can clearly see a lot of hardware like circuits, tubes, wires, regular-shaped crystals and both had helmets/masks that covered their heads. Sarah's gloves have very similar-looking circuits and crystals when she uses them to unleash Tailless. This whole Ether/Hollow business seems like it's just some interdimentional advanced species' strategy of conquering new domains: Ether seems like a field of pure energy that contains universal code capable of distorting space-time and adapting to any living/intelligent/functional framework and turning it into a functional tools/weapons for expansion. And humanity, of course, saw it as energy, tech and power resource. Some may have gone even further -- Sarah's group seems to treat it almost like a religion and promise of rebitrh into something greater.
I still remember when people said ZZZ doesn't have a story just because it didn't throw it at your face immediately and there was actual build up to it, god I'm loving this story and can't wait to see what happens next
Belle and Wise: Got hit by explosion, they are fine Also Belle and Wise: Got thrown and rolled, basically hit Billy, got headache (Wise) and Back pain (Belle)
"continue revel in the search of real villain" This makes me think their teacher is indeed the culprit behind everything. Carole may very well created this "creator cult" as well as the giant white hand. Wise and Belle were her first prototype sacrifice, thats why they sort of resonates when in close proximity to another sacrifice. Imagine Wise and Belle found out their super human ability is due to being a sacrifice in the end.
I knew Hoyo would make them secretly OP. My guess is that the condition Billy mentioned just before we met Ceasar and Lighter in the hollow is actually some manner of seal on their true potential.
Yep. The potentail could be.. no is dengerous. We now know about Sacrafices and knew about Modified humans. It will be in this line - gone to the next level.
I have a theory that the siblings are actually damn powerful or the very least good enough to hold their own, but only when they are together. Maybe due to some kind of lock in place put by their teacher? Maybe they were too OP to be allowed to exist unsupervised? That's why whenever they are apart, they worry so much about the other and immediately apologise for being absent. Because had the other been there, they would not have been in any trouble. Or that is all just normal sibling behavior and they just have a bit of cyberware inside them
Why is nobody talking about how they are able to create fissures OUTSIDE of the hollows? During the end of the "End credits" we can see Eous going in the fissure, which is obviously created by them since they were brought to the exact spot where bringer was, when we know fissures only appear inside the hollows
@@jubair8332 It's something no one noticed, that's why. Everyone is used to them deus ex machnaing fissures at the right moment, even though technically they're "guiding" people to hollow fissures that are about to spawn. So when they see them going through one, at first thought, they just assume it's their standard proxy ability. They neglect to realize that the fissure exists outside the hollow and that they controlled the destination point...
My guess is that they are in some way(whether aware or not), some form of ethereals, experimental, purified, hybrid, etc ... maybe a fully perfected or incomplete version of what bringer became, this might also explain their "condition" that doesn’t allow them to be in hollows for long(if it was just low ether aptitude then there'd be no need for the condition), stay too long = become a "refined" ethereal. My other guesses are modified/artificial humans, "destined children," or they are just lying about their weakness(though that seems unlikely)
They must be aware. If they didn't know until now, they'd be more stunned and expressive about surviving. Wise may have put himself in front of belle to shield her somewhat, but they weren't staring at eachother, stunned about being alive.
@liamdowns9830 tbf, they are pissed. More focused on getting answers than their safety... but they could be aware. The point is that they are shrouded in too much mystery from all angles that its nigh impossible to make a concrete theory...
That bangboo creator also void hunter probably have lot connections with them. Now this make me want to continue play the game more for this kind of lore on the siblings
By "reveling in the fantasy of searching for the real villain" I think he is implying that their teacher might actually be that villain and that she planned everything from the beginning just so she can set them to act out as guides to those who are in action.
They have %50 Democracy Protects from Helldivers. Fun fact. You can both tank Hellbomb and a litteral hellpod with that. (Hellpod one hits you no matter what but you can survive it)
They tanked that explosion and I think the only reason they're on their knees or are having a hard time breathing is because they're allergic or something to the hollow/ether and with a massive hit of ether they need to take a break like how whatever sibling we play almost died in the hollow and we know they aren't faking because when we get back to the shop the sibling we aren't playing as is actually worried that we might've died. If I had to guess the sibling are genetically modified or took some drug making them much more stronger but the cost for this power might be having a weak ether resistance or the power turns off when exposed to any ether.
Personally, given their implants activated, it's implied the H.D.D System protected them from the gold ether (they may have more implants that facilitate this) If true...the system is far more important than as just a linking device
Does anyone remember the event with the Bangboo named “Snap” that Bangboo was being piloted by a human who couldn’t appear in-person. They also said that the tech they were using was new and based of of something from the old capital. So I believe Wise and Belle are humans with modifications, and because of that event I have reason to believe that when Bringer says “Keep chasing the ‘True Villain’” or something along those lines. I don’t think the “villain” is a person but instead some kind of otherworldly calamity. Possibly the reason the Hollows exist!
@cheeseoh Well that just confirms that a normal human can pilot around a Bangboo! :D Meaning that Belle and Wise can still be human even if heavily modified. Also they still react to ether corruption just like a normal human with low ether aptitude, possibly a side effect from all the modding?
Belle and Wise can feel what the bangboo feel as well. In Qingyi quest, when Eous gets heavily disturbed by the Ether, Belle/Wise feels headache as well. Qingyi also shared consious with Eous, along with Wise/Belle in that quest, so the system they are making is probably not just tailor-made for Bangboo, but also other robot/android entity.
I think this is Fairy's power. . Edit: I take it back, seeing it again it seems like they're made out of data. How that happens? Watch the prologue cutscene when the MC dream of something before the awaken of Fairy. In that dream, there were hollow explosion/expansion, and they were caught in it. So they either already died from the very beginning, or the hollow have done something to their physical body.
0:55 is it just me or does this scene have that terminator vibe, with the music and the glowing eyes. Like surprised! We aren't actually human kind of reveal
My theory, which has possibly a lot of holes in, is that they're the same as what happened to Bringer but are the perfect ones. They are half human/half ethereals. Capable of becoming ethereals while maintaining sentience and can revert back to human form. Carole Arna; Wise and Belle's mentor; must've tried to help them both due to their sensitivity to ether corruption. It was successful but someone (so called 'Creator') wanted this knowledge for something(maybe they prefer hollows over real life Idk) and so tried to capture Carole Arna, Belle and Wise. The researcher and the successful results of the experiment. But somehow Wise and Belle got away. They capture Carole sure and caused Hollow Zero but they couldn't replicate Carole's experiment; even with Carole. Hence why they treated Bringer's transformation (and possibly others like Pompey) a test. Which was succesful according to Sarah.
Travelers: Inter dimensional wanderers Trailblazers: Living Spatial anomalies with Cosmic power Proxies: ??? Kiana: Conceptual Goddess of Eldritch power
the siblings survive in the explosion with glowing eyes reminds of how uryu survives on deadly attacks with glowing eyes..ya these siblings has antithesis ability or something equal to that..
That "Ravel in the fantasy of searching for a real villain" gives off GGZ vibes... It gives off the same feeling as when Cocolia revealed to Kiana that Siegfried didn't actually leave Kiana, Kiana just accidentally awoke as God Kiana and erased Siegfried.
So a couple things 1. They react as if in danger of the explosion 2.They come through a fissure themselves (pretty sure they were in the hollow) 3.Bringer says his mission is complete before realizing he didn't kill them 4. Their eyes seem to be glowing almost out of instinct 5. The glitch effects on the twins and bringer 6. "Real villain"
I don't think theres any evidence that they're like Qingyi, but maybe they're partially cybernetic, if Carole raised them then maybe the two were injured when she found them and used Ancient Era tech to save their lives. Which is why they can connect to Eous and even helped Carole make the HDD. My laptop can't handle the game so unfortunately I'm stuck watching lets plays for now, so I could be way off the mark.
We know that their teacher was involved in the creation of the hollow somehow. The twins family in never mentioned. A They seem to treat the teacher as a parent figure. Since we know they were around during the event. That rule out them being and type of creature from the hollow. But they do have eye implants. That lets them get info in or out the hollow. So their teacher must have either modified the twins to prep them for going into a controlled hollow or made them from the ground up with that in mind. It just that before that ever happen the hollow could have expanded for some reason. Another theory could be that they were born from a smaller hallow, raised like humans with no one telling them about the hollow. Till that same small hollow consumed the old city. Hoyo does have a habit of making there MC "special" in some form or way.
My theory is that they are bangboo like humans. Lab made humans type or human Ethereals, thats why they cant stay too long in hollows and can sync really well with machines
🎵Mavuika Theme Music (Character Trailer Theme) "Blazing Heart" th-cam.com/video/st641DDFQ2c/w-d-xo.html
Belle Panicking VS Wise Calm & Collected (Comparison Animation) th-cam.com/video/mR344VJ7ATY/w-d-xo.html
Proxies: *Casually survived an explosion*
Also Proxies: "I'm not build for this" (tired from running)
They are probably tank types(magical tank) if they're on moba or rpg haha
Proxies probably: I didn't want to get hurt so I made sure to max out my defense. Unfortunately I do not have any points left I can invest into stamina 😅
Rather, they don't want to expose themselves by getting into dangerous situations.
"I'm really not *BUILT* for this" Oh my god. That foreshadowing.
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 HYDRA
They have ocular implants, we know that since the beginning but the fact that they survived the explosion from up close but are incredibly weak when physically inside a Hollow leads me to believe that while the siblings are humans, they might not technically be real humans. We know so little of the academy that, for all we know Belle and Wise are modified humans or even artificial ones created in hopes of dealing with Hollows
right! they never talk about a mother or father. instead it's their teacher. some people even speculate that they're not really siblings, it would match with them being synthetic humans.
@@blakcnagisa01to add to that point the end of chapter 4 wise says “times like this we really are family”
@@DI.0Kingman it kinda was a heartfelt message then rethink and..wait..why he say that in that way.
I think they fake to be physically weak or at least seal their power off and when in critical moment + no one looking, they unseal it
@ this too could be, they need to keep up the facade that they just a very good Proxies and nothing else.
Already had a feeling these siblings aren't human, seeing as they seem to be the only proxies with the ability to connect to a bangboo
I am going cyborgs but wouldn’t be surprised of it’s something unique in universe
@rungunninja1289 I would say they have some kind of hollow corruption, remember the unknown corruption complex aka Sacrifice at the end of chapter 2, it seem at the time it made some kind of connection with the proxy
@@KN-cl2tu i would agree and the villain prolly etherial mixed type or etherial turned human or some cult as they keep reciting "creator". my theory is their teacher did the experiment however halfway hesitate to continue, . plus considering the enemy trying infilterate hoshimi clan (aiming miyabi) must quite powerful backing prolly position of t.o.p.s.
But they talked about eye implants several times, and besides them, Astra was also connected through a Bangboo.
Now, the ability to connect to a Bangboo isn't just Phaeton's ability, there's an event where a secret person got a similar technology from TOPS. The main thing is everything else from the twins.
That may have been the only time ive seen belle and wise be fucking angry
Not "Oh you accidentally deleted my save file?" Kind of angry its a parental figure kind of angry
The people behind Sarah and Bringer kidnapped their teacher/mother-figure.
@@AncientBeast65 As it stands yes. But Bringers Words are suspicious af, i wonder what he meant.
by angry you mean that blue shine in their eyes? I thought it was merely their eye implants glowing
@@Hofniel I think they meant angry as in having an attitude this aggressive and actually hateful towards anything.
"Continue to revel in the fantasy of searching for the 'real villain'!"
Why does that line go so hard?!
Yeah, it goes really hard, also he's Implying that Carole (their teacher) isn't exactly "innocent" either
I think he is implying they are the "real villain." You can also see part of their face digitally distorted
@@slair4297 They did nothing in the fall of Old Eridu tho, T.O.P.S are most likely to be the main culprit and Carole is probaby deeply involved into this mess, that's maybe why Bringer said that line...because phaeton sibling are in denial about the truth of their teacher.
Maybe the real villains are actually hiding beneath our nose this whole time
@@slair4297if you mean their eyes, i think those are just their occular implants (which to my understanding allow them to connect and see from Eous' eyes)
Bro ZZZ went from goofy ass game to residents evil type lore.
Man.....
This is giving me Umbrella corporation vibes.
Thanks god i am not alone, i swear it like a smash up between re5 and re6
Then where's the ABSOLUTE UNIT HUNK!
@@merc4higheri hope we get a Tactical Military themed group soon
@@averagemumeienjoyer5498 you mean Soldier 11 faction? There's also a sniper ("appeared" in the S11 agent story) in her faction hope he/she is playable when they get announced.
cmone they have Ada Wong type woman yea without red carpet and grappling gun but still
... Belle and Wise as playable agents... The foreshadowing is real!
Queue HSR music
Lol, that'd be a nice idea - at one point in the next arc, something happens that renders Eous powerless, so the MC has to take to the field due to it being the only way to get the job done
Proxy battlesuit
Awesome Robot Battle Form
I wanna see Belle with gun lol
Interesting that Bringer said his mission was complete when he thought he'd offed Carole Arna's students. There might be a very good reason for them to be keeping that info close to their chest beyond just not wanting to be associated with the official H0 culprit.
As for whether or not they're human... I think they are, but modified somehow, likely in relation to whatever causes their eyes to flicker in the presence of sacrifices. I'm thinking whatever that is has some way of shielding them from sacrifices specifically, explaining why despite having a low constitution and a condition that keeps them largely out of hollows they were able to survive Bringer's kaboom despite the point-blank range.
Them not being able to d*e/sacrifice themselves will probably play a part toward the end
It’s noted they have occular implants and that’s what lets them sync in with Eous via the HDD
What's in their eyes are ocular implants, but I think they allow for the proxies to connect to Eous. But maybe they do more than just that, I'm not sure.
@@asoniamrds05 Has it actually been stated that they have ocular implants, or did we all just assume that because it made the most sense at the time?
@@KyuubiDragon4During the quest, they often mentioned about the ocular implants, especially after being thrown into a Hollow, breaking them for a while
The scene with their eyes glowing gave me prowler vibes
The moment kind of reminded me of that scene in Jungle Cruise who is revealed to be cursed
0:55 I love how Wise and Belle got that "the villain just no-sold your ultimate attack" music going for them.
obviously they aren't humans. belle knows what rizz is, and wise can pull practically everyone in the game (except belle i sincerely apologise for making such an outdated comment
For now 😊
Then Hoyoverse will have one of their limbs cut off revealing their parts
okay thats.. not....
@@elisabethnunez4569 Time to put the phone down and take a walk for a bit bruh
Nah pretty sure she got rizz the most base on the cutscenes 😆😆😆
That light in their eyes is the same as the one that appears when they use their bangbuu.
And if I remember correctly, in this chapter it is said that they have implants
This seems very similar to Belebog's ethereal, it also caused Belle/Wise the same thing even through Bangbuu.
But I think it's not because they're not human, I think it's just the implants that suffer some kind of disruption or something else.
You right, maybe they implants have the capacity to absorb Ether but to protect them for suffer damage, or maybe they implants have more capacities that they don't know.
Also, i have some doubts of they teacher, because It feel like experimentation with living beings, and they are not really siblings but adopted.
It could be that they are some reverse ethereal hybrid. You know, the kind that CAN'T exist in hollows. And it would be the reason why their aptitude is so small.
Or they are heavily modified humans...
About implant we knew in end of caledon story after meating yanagi.
They're probably either genetically modified or cybernetically modified humans. The eye implants could be just the start of it for the siblings and there's still a lot of mystery to what else is being held back
There was that one side mission involving someone get eye implants, forgot what it was called
0:56 Im sorry but why did that gave me chills??? Pls tell me im not the only one MY HANDS ARE SWEATING!
No.When the music start and i see the glowing eyes I got chills.
That wasn’t cold.
@Wurstbrot-191 I know but some reason i got chills.
Yeah, got chills too😱
You are not alone
_I do genuinely wonder if the Twin's roles as "Proxies" mean something a little bit more on the nose_ , wall of text, but I think Carol's project of building Hollow Zero wasn't to hurt Old Eridu, but rather use the Hollows to _recreate_ what they originally took, a way to control the "chaos" it brings, in a sense; it's creating _Proxies_
Hollows already have this whole "copying" aspects to it, with the enclosed environment basically making a poor "proxy" of what it swallowed up. Buildings built weird, Roads that lead to nowhere, hell- Alleyways can lead you inside buildings or on top of them with no rhyme or reason.
There's already "Doppelgangers" popping up that opens a bunch of worms on top of this.
The Hollow itself always seems to be trying to copy/replicate whatever it swallowed up, but at times it fails to recreate it; imagine like it's Lego, it's like someone scooping up a build into a bag, shaking it, and trying to re-create everything inside of it w/o an instruction.
I truly wonder if Belle/Wise are part "Ethereals"; and not in the normal sense, they did state that Carole saved them, but what if somehow she used a "purified Ether" or something along those lines; something that's actually able to recreate things properly, and using that Lego analogy, _something with an instruction to do it properly_
I agree!
It will be crazy if Wise and Belle supposedly died or something but using the replication energy, maybe it created the Belle and Wise we know?
And I did read others theories like they're actually belong to Hollow or something? 🤔
There is also that one theory that said they could go havoc and became ethereals the longer they're in the Hollow and that's why they use Bamboo instead?
Anyways, I'm hooked with all these conspiracies theories, bro. The theories just keep getting better
So basically kinda like how originium works in AK based on its latest stories?
@@Giovansbilly Basically yeah, the way Hollows + Originium almost works the same if you really think about it
They're both technically catastrophe's that pop out of nowhere, they corrupt whatever is inside, and long exposures to them leads to infection/corruption in one way or another, and Ether + Originium are also used as a form of power source in their respective worlds.
There may be more merit to that than expected. The serum Bringer injected into himself seems like a controlled either corruption as he's clearly corrupted and yet manages to maintain his mind making me believe the sacrifice from chapter 2 was injected with a less refined version of it. It's more than likely that Vision created this serum via Carol's research.
There may be more merit to that than expected. The serum Bringee injected into himself seems like a controlled either corruption as he's clearly corrupted and yet manages to maintain his mind making me believe the sacrifice from chapter 2 was injected with a less refined version of it. It's more than likely that Vision created this serum via Carol's research.
Me: *Sees them survived the explosion* Impossible...
Travelers and Trailblazers: They just like us!
Proxies: But better...
We have glowy eyes
I think trailblazers I don't know about traveler
Even better they are together
@stellarmelody2784 Traveler can most definitely survive an explosion if they can survive being punched by a large robot fist.
@@constabrielbell4523 Aether & Lumine: T.T
Besides them have the ability to sync with their bangboo, do any of you remember about the earlier story where Fairy first appear? Didn't the AI talk to Belle/Wise while they asleep? And their sibling didn't noticed anything until they've been informed by the protagonist? I mean, how the heck a technology able to talk to them in their mind that one time? Now I think they somewhat like Qingyi, a robot with very human like feature but more complicated. Oh and you guys also remember that time Qingyi appear to save us right on time when they almost got caught during the investigation at random play? She said Fairy is the one who send the help messege to her and I'm sure Fairy didn't contacted her using a phone.
As far as I understand from their conversations, their eye implants allow them to communicate with others as well, or they have a built-in earphone. They are most likely partially cyborgs, but not robots. Since they are in pain, they get tired, the sibling almost died and maybe their eye implants are too cheater thing capable of creating a shield.
@@phangugi1829 They could be artificial humans (lab grown) cause we really don't know anything about their past aside from knowing how they were raised by their teacher. Could also probably explain why they can't last long inside of Hollow because of whatever's necessary for a regular being to resist ether corruption is missing or probably really weak for them
If they have ocular modification, perhaps they are modified even further? Their teacher created 0 ping bangboo connection, maybe she created a lot more technologies that siblings used to enhance themselfs...
@@Hamlettte according to Ashikai’s theory that has been proven by the game. Hollows are known affecting Ai, logical cores, information etc. Could it be that their low ether resistance somehow connected with this?
@@TanyaKory We don't actually know their ether aptitude. In particular if low ether humans are over whelmed by ether corruption they become monsters. But the MC just passes out and shows no lasting effects. This is similar to how the genshin and hsr protagonists do not seems to have long term effects from the bad in their universe. They're hurt by it, but they don't suffer the normal in universe corruption effects.
Actually a prowler music meme moment XD
I'm glad I am not the only one who hear that xD I was thinking of that or the Goku stare meme as well
What about Gom Jabbar?
When im watching the clip of the new version story i feel like
"Okay, Finally Hoyoverse showing his real face huh... "
Kiana - Herrscher
Aether / Lumine - Immortal at least (Idk never went pass Mondstat)
Stelle / Caelus - Stellaron / Artificial Being
Yeah, Hoyo's MC will not just be any ordinary human.
@LigerSuperstar Ather and Lunine don't age. Apparently they've seen stars be born and die. Meaning they're millions of years old.
Oh and you forgot Kiana is a clone of 2 people so double not human.
If we are talking about "real identity"
Kiana: K423/Sirin reincarnation= Hersscher of Finality
Aether Lumine- Ruler of destroyed world
Stelle Caelus: ??? So far we only know them as the old member of Steleron hunter, but still don't know who they really are except for the fact they use Stelleron power.
Kiana: Tuna God Princess
Aether/Lumine: Siblings Separated to become the Avatar
Stelle/Caelus: Nuclear Trash Panda
Wise/Belle: Cinephile Hacker with Severe Mentor issues also possibly not Human.
@@LigerSuperstar but these ones were really well disguised
Okay for everyone arguing in the comments about the same bloody points. YES they have implants that help them synchronize with Eous when they connect trough the H.D.D system. BOTH of them have weak Ether aptitude. TOPS has a way inferior version of the twins tech because they tried to reverse engineer it from Carole Arnas tech that she made based on Old civilization technology. The IMPLANT alone should not have protected them from a POINT BLANK EXPLOSION, so there is something else going on. ALSO the fact that the music goes all dramatic only when they show that the twins survived and that their eyes are glowing means that the developers wanted to POINT IT OUT that there is something extra with the twins. We dont have nearly enough lore bits to get a proper theory going but the BEST BET is that Carole Arna is somehow connected to the Old Civ and the Hollow Cultists that want to evolve somehow with Ether energy. I personally think that Carole augmented the twins with a mix of Old Civ tech and Ethereal stuff and the reason they have weak Ether aptitude is because the Ethereal part wants to take over. Probably something about Carole working for or with the Cult but did not want the twins to turn into monsters hence why they are still human even after the experiments. This is all speculation mind you but the first part of this comment is all that we know in broad strokes.
i will just add the similarity of the eyes and the eye of fairy.
0:13 did anyone notice eous just unsummon a fissure? Dude instantly locked in(from dead stare into hatred for bringer) the moment the fissure was closed. Could bro secretly have the power to open/close fissures inside hollows, could be why they always know where fissures may open, because eous is literally the one opening them, that's why he's the best bangboo for diving hollows. Think of the conveniently placed fissure at the end of the credit scene leading exactly to the severed remnant of bringer. They're (or just eous) not only good at navigating through fissures, but also materialising them.
though it is would extremely awesome, I don't think that would be the case. If Eous really could have just created fissures anywhere it wants, but was only trying to hide it, I think Wise/Belle would have used that ability during the Inferno race in the outer ring. the one where Caesar had to drive and dive into a pool of lava.
@@miriamciriaco9869 or that's what happened but they need to be subtle about it.
But then that would literally negate them to being actually good proxies if they could just have eous materialise a fissure anywhere it wants like whats the purpose of giding agents if they could just do that this whole time
@@alyssharte6885no
That sound after they revealed they survived the bomb gave me chills.
0:55 music is so immaculate with the blue beam of their ocular implant everything about that scene is just so PERFECT
0:56 the way their eyes glows is so cool, little theory what if the proxy siblings are a mimetic kind of entity sorta like they made out of data... kinda like black swan (also the theme were they show it might give us the hint that the siblings are more than meets the eye)
Yes, maybe ethereal based, bringers arm started glitching just like their eyes
I remember a few days ago I viewed the cutscene where the siblings visited their teacher again a second time and thought to myself, "Imagine if Arna artificially created these two siblings as some ether related experiment, and saved them during the fall of the Old Capital to preserve her work". Guess I somewhat predicted it.
you know valkyrie's are actually modified humans to use honkai genes...maybe its the same
I'm not surprised. Every HoYoverse's MCs are not human. Kiana is a clone, Travelers is from otherworld (possibly not human but transcendent), Trailblazers is also born not a humanlike (experiments maybe?), now the Proxys also not a human so i kinda expect that. The only human MC from Hoyo's game is Rosa from Tears of Themis
kiana in ggz is human
@@cheeseoh they are not stars, they witness a star born and die. It mean that they are at least 10 billions years old +500 years in teyvat
no they aren't The Trailblazer were created to host a Stellaron
@@jetistheswampert9166 no, their body was created to host the stellaron. Prior to that you already a stellaron that stayed with the Stellaron hunter. That why you are immune to stellaron contamination
They did a perfect counter
They parried the explosion
They're proxies
Good god
“Ravel in the fantasy of searching for a real villain” sounds like he is absolutely certain the twins can’t find the real culprit, cause what if the real culprit were the twins? The choice of music is interesting as well after the explosion, sounds like something distorted, ominous, like something shouldn’t existed has appeared. This is very interesting
Oh maybe, I was thinking their teacher but you might be right, hell bringer started glitching after he exploded the same thing happened with the twins eyes, it’s a small detail and maybe it has no correlation, but maybe they were a product of their teachers experimentation with ether
makes sense considering the beginning cutscene when we get fairy and the fact that time travel is mentioned multiple times by NPCs. also adds to the fact of the mythology behind the name "phaethon"
@@DI.0King Yeah and we all shouldnt forget the suspicious ass Scene in 1.0
When the characters suddenly saw a strange part of unkown events from the future or what ever it was.
What do u mean?
While i do agree they're not 100%, they're not robots either. More than likely, they're probably cyborgs, considering they have low ether aptitude and seem to have humanly body functions.
what if they’re a personality constructed using hollow and their weak resistance to it is just their form returning back to its essence material.
@@kai-jf2vdthe thing is that Ethereal’s can’t exist outside of Hollows because of Ether absence. So maybe some form of purified Ether?
@@kai-jf2vdthe thing is that Ethereal’s can’t exist outside of Hollows because of Ether absence. So maybe some form of purified Ether?
@ thing of the hollow field as an AT field and anything from the other side cant goes over to this side, considering Hoyos love for Evangelion, lets assume that if the ether can operate like an AT field they can mold and shape itself into different forms one such is human and the other is the Angels. What if the institute that their teacher was part off made experiments to possibly inject or engineer a human consciousness onto the Ether to create a new form of human, they’re basically Kaworu. Lmao I’m just pulling my ass but hey it’s an interesting theory.
@@kai-jf2vdthey aren't just weak to it but actively absorb more. It's why Billy calls it a condition during chapter 4 at the beginning when they enter a hollow
Theyre Most likely modified human, or half cyborg unlike qinyi and billy since they need eat sleep and dont have recharge station. and regarding eyes Sibling said themselves that is implant that allow them interact with electronic
I suspect they have a certain power to control the fissure entrance within the hollow, something like a hack or eous augment to quickly generate carrot on overclocked speed.. perhaps thats why they had a glitch effect.
When I saw this scene I was like "THEY ARE REALLY THE MAIN CHARACTERS"
Yeah, my theory is that the two of them is or somekind of experiment, or in the Hollow Zero(when the Hollow Zero Was formed) they gained this Power, because it seems that the "explosion" of Ether to make Hollow Zero Was like, in front of them
I love the detail of Wise putting his arms protective around Belle and he's the first to hold his hand up to "shield" them when the explosion happens. Meanwhile, Belle is the first to go after the hand while it dissappears. Wise is still always pretective of Belle, while Belle is still the more impulsive type.
In terms of them potentially being playable one day, id love to them be a "dual" unit with Belle doing most of the offensive attacks while Wise switching in to do defensive and dodges.
" I dont understand virtual girls let alone real ones"-- Wise
This makes a lot more sense...
Those are the SAME eyes that appear when the connect to eous, the first cutscene showcasing what it looks like when they log on. I have a feeling their teacher did in fact cause the hollows BUT a main detail of how it occurred is tied to bell and wise. Like they were lab rats. Maybe they have an ability to connect with technology or hollow energy
It's ocular implants.
Talking hand?
Close enough, Pernida Parnkjas
that's was my first thought when I first saw him. I immediately said "Waiit Pernida, why are you in here"
Bringer even got blown up on his own
It's great to know I wasn't the only one who thought of this.😂😂
Holy shit, what if they are Ethereals?
Maybe there's something we can learn from Harumasa's trailer
They're just really tall modified banboo
@@ЯрославПодгорный-х3м I like that theory 😂
And in the future their mechanical parts are exposed
I hope they are half ethereals that have full control, Imagine the mc can turn their body parts into ethereal like weapon
WAJAJA
So that's why, they can operate Bangboo easily or more like can understand them. That's good reason for it
It's likely that explosion wasn't a typical explosion, but some kind of ethereal attack. Since they could have ether tech in them -- it might have disrupted that attack just enough to prevent it from harming them. We don't know much about ether, so the range of assumptions we can make is pretty wide. The implants were also glowing when Eous approached the Sacrifice which sent some sort of pulse. Maybe the tech that lets them connect to Eous and see through him, maintain comms and read Hollow environment is based on ether, which is not surprising since they are from Helios academy that studied Hollows. Thus, their lences react to other ether tech. Who knows, maybe their eye implants was one of the first attempts to splice human biology with ether tech that doesn't lead to biological transformations, while Sacrifice serum is on the wole other level. On both Sacrifices you can clearly see a lot of hardware like circuits, tubes, wires, regular-shaped crystals and both had helmets/masks that covered their heads. Sarah's gloves have very similar-looking circuits and crystals when she uses them to unleash Tailless.
This whole Ether/Hollow business seems like it's just some interdimentional advanced species' strategy of conquering new domains: Ether seems like a field of pure energy that contains universal code capable of distorting space-time and adapting to any living/intelligent/functional framework and turning it into a functional tools/weapons for expansion. And humanity, of course, saw it as energy, tech and power resource. Some may have gone even further -- Sarah's group seems to treat it almost like a religion and promise of rebitrh into something greater.
Yep!
Aether & Lumine;
Caelus & Stelle;
Wise & Belle.
These Hoyo siblings are insane!
Caelus and Stelle aren't siblings
they're the same person just different options
Kiana the eldest of the siblings.
Not really, 2/3 of them are useless
@expèrgo.o2 Just like Byleth.
None of them are useless what are you talking abt 💀 @@SolaireOfToast
You’re telling me this is same person that almost out of breath for just running
I still remember when people said ZZZ doesn't have a story just because it didn't throw it at your face immediately and there was actual build up to it, god I'm loving this story and can't wait to see what happens next
Damn Hoyo's main character siblings are strong beings, super human and an divine entity
The scene, the context, the animation, the music, oh my god
when their eyes started glowing my mouth genuinely dropped all the way open i went INSANE
0:56 the timing of the music is perfect. kinda gives off like u dont wanna mess with us scary vibe
Bringer: Why won't you die?!
Belle/Wise: Nanomachines, son. They harden in response to physical trauma.
I need the music when they are revealed to be alive, Holy crap I love it
Belle and Wise: Got hit by explosion, they are fine
Also Belle and Wise: Got thrown and rolled, basically hit Billy, got headache (Wise) and Back pain (Belle)
Mind you, it's without activation of their power,
Don’t think it’s a coincidence that they’re named Phaethon who was literally a demigod😂
So, they're synths?
What if the "real villain" bringer talked about is their teacher
No... that would be tragic... More tragic about that mini theory of their teacher being the big flying etherial that miyabi fought
Gud idea
So we get paimon theory again but in zzz 😅
@EITHERNETTA-bx7vz
One of the lore pieces you can find in HZ heavily implies Nineveh just mutated from a little girl lost there. It's not teacher.
@EITHERNETTA-bx7vz That didn't stop them from pulling sh*ts in Honkai Impact 3rd infact GGZ pull something way worst.
the story is getting real interesting
"continue revel in the search of real villain"
This makes me think their teacher is indeed the culprit behind everything. Carole may very well created this "creator cult" as well as the giant white hand. Wise and Belle were her first prototype sacrifice, thats why they sort of resonates when in close proximity to another sacrifice.
Imagine Wise and Belle found out their super human ability is due to being a sacrifice in the end.
Their lore is starting to get so juicy ahhhh
I knew Hoyo would make them secretly OP. My guess is that the condition Billy mentioned just before we met Ceasar and Lighter in the hollow is actually some manner of seal on their true potential.
Yep. The potentail could be.. no is dengerous. We now know about Sacrafices and knew about Modified humans. It will be in this line - gone to the next level.
I have a theory that the siblings are actually damn powerful or the very least good enough to hold their own, but only when they are together. Maybe due to some kind of lock in place put by their teacher? Maybe they were too OP to be allowed to exist unsupervised?
That's why whenever they are apart, they worry so much about the other and immediately apologise for being absent. Because had the other been there, they would not have been in any trouble.
Or that is all just normal sibling behavior and they just have a bit of cyberware inside them
Why is nobody talking about how they are able to create fissures OUTSIDE of the hollows? During the end of the "End credits" we can see Eous going in the fissure, which is obviously created by them since they were brought to the exact spot where bringer was, when we know fissures only appear inside the hollows
yeah I have the same question but no one is talking about it
@@jubair8332 It's something no one noticed, that's why. Everyone is used to them deus ex machnaing fissures at the right moment, even though technically they're "guiding" people to hollow fissures that are about to spawn.
So when they see them going through one, at first thought, they just assume it's their standard proxy ability. They neglect to realize that the fissure exists outside the hollow and that they controlled the destination point...
This was one of the HARDEST scenes in the game imo
My guess is that they are in some way(whether aware or not), some form of ethereals, experimental, purified, hybrid, etc ... maybe a fully perfected or incomplete version of what bringer became, this might also explain their "condition" that doesn’t allow them to be in hollows for long(if it was just low ether aptitude then there'd be no need for the condition), stay too long = become a "refined" ethereal.
My other guesses are modified/artificial humans, "destined children," or they are just lying about their weakness(though that seems unlikely)
They must be aware. If they didn't know until now, they'd be more stunned and expressive about surviving. Wise may have put himself in front of belle to shield her somewhat, but they weren't staring at eachother, stunned about being alive.
@liamdowns9830 tbf, they are pissed. More focused on getting answers than their safety... but they could be aware.
The point is that they are shrouded in too much mystery from all angles that its nigh impossible to make a concrete theory...
That bangboo creator also void hunter probably have lot connections with them. Now this make me want to continue play the game more for this kind of lore on the siblings
OK NO GUYS THEY JUST DID A PERFECT ASSIST, SAW HOW WISE SWITCHED IN WHEN THE BLAST HAPPENED???
By "reveling in the fantasy of searching for the real villain" I think he is implying that their teacher might actually be that villain and that she planned everything from the beginning just so she can set them to act out as guides to those who are in action.
I already notice Belle & Wise of course not a normal human! they probally have same level like another hoyoverse protagonist
Honestly when I first saw this I was like ‘oh no!’ But when I saw that shit. I got like some goosebumps running down my back.
They have %50 Democracy Protects from Helldivers.
Fun fact. You can both tank Hellbomb and a litteral hellpod with that. (Hellpod one hits you no matter what but you can survive it)
They tanked that explosion and I think the only reason they're on their knees or are having a hard time breathing is because they're allergic or something to the hollow/ether and with a massive hit of ether they need to take a break like how whatever sibling we play almost died in the hollow and we know they aren't faking because when we get back to the shop the sibling we aren't playing as is actually worried that we might've died. If I had to guess the sibling are genetically modified or took some drug making them much more stronger but the cost for this power might be having a weak ether resistance or the power turns off when exposed to any ether.
Welcome to Hoyo Siblings, we have:
Aether and Lumine
Belle and Wise
Caelus and Stelle
And Kiana (and probably Dudu?)
@ I am aware of that.
But I like to call them siblings
@ I am aware of that.
But I’ll call them siblings anyways
0:55 holy shit this look so good
ouroboros? It wasn’t a snake, but the blue circle in in their eyes reminded of it.
hmmm, what if they or one of them becomes corrupted? common theme in HI3 and I'd like to see that here
Hoyo hates siblings. So the other sibling might die-
@EITHERNETTA-bx7vz DON'T JINX IT!!!
Personally, given their implants activated, it's implied the H.D.D System protected them from the gold ether (they may have more implants that facilitate this)
If true...the system is far more important than as just a linking device
That sound is utterly terrifying.
My GOD I am so excited to learn more lore and story in the future. I have not been this excited for a games story in a long time
Not only their body able to withstand explosion but their clothes too
Truly one of the kind blast proof design
Does anyone remember the event with the Bangboo named “Snap” that Bangboo was being piloted by a human who couldn’t appear in-person. They also said that the tech they were using was new and based of of something from the old capital. So I believe Wise and Belle are humans with modifications, and because of that event I have reason to believe that when Bringer says “Keep chasing the ‘True Villain’” or something along those lines. I don’t think the “villain” is a person but instead some kind of otherworldly calamity. Possibly the reason the Hollows exist!
@cheeseoh Well that just confirms that a normal human can pilot around a Bangboo! :D Meaning that Belle and Wise can still be human even if heavily modified. Also they still react to ether corruption just like a normal human with low ether aptitude, possibly a side effect from all the modding?
Belle and Wise can feel what the bangboo feel as well. In Qingyi quest, when Eous gets heavily disturbed by the Ether, Belle/Wise feels headache as well. Qingyi also shared consious with Eous, along with Wise/Belle in that quest, so the system they are making is probably not just tailor-made for Bangboo, but also other robot/android entity.
I think this is Fairy's power. .
Edit: I take it back, seeing it again it seems like they're made out of data. How that happens? Watch the prologue cutscene when the MC dream of something before the awaken of Fairy. In that dream, there were hollow explosion/expansion, and they were caught in it.
So they either already died from the very beginning, or the hollow have done something to their physical body.
Made out of data? Are they memetic entities? :O
I think the Hallow or their teacher did something to their bodies
@@elisabethnunez4569 Ya, it's possible their teacher is the behind of what's happening to the Sibling right now.
0:55 is it just me or does this scene have that terminator vibe, with the music and the glowing eyes. Like surprised! We aren't actually human kind of reveal
0:56 the music here gives me the “pacific rim the black” vibes
That is why these two are unplayable, since their hp is infinity
It’s obvious. They have the power of plot armor and the being the protagonists on their side.
holy the bass drop from the reveal is crazy
My theory, which has possibly a lot of holes in, is that they're the same as what happened to Bringer but are the perfect ones. They are half human/half ethereals. Capable of becoming ethereals while maintaining sentience and can revert back to human form.
Carole Arna; Wise and Belle's mentor; must've tried to help them both due to their sensitivity to ether corruption. It was successful but someone (so called 'Creator') wanted this knowledge for something(maybe they prefer hollows over real life Idk) and so tried to capture Carole Arna, Belle and Wise. The researcher and the successful results of the experiment.
But somehow Wise and Belle got away. They capture Carole sure and caused Hollow Zero but they couldn't replicate Carole's experiment; even with Carole. Hence why they treated Bringer's transformation (and possibly others like Pompey) a test. Which was succesful according to Sarah.
Hoyo MC: anything but ordinary XD
Travelers: Inter dimensional wanderers
Trailblazers: Living Spatial anomalies with Cosmic power
Proxies: ???
Kiana: Conceptual Goddess of Eldritch power
the siblings survive in the explosion with glowing eyes reminds of how uryu survives on deadly attacks with glowing eyes..ya these siblings has antithesis ability or something equal to that..
That "Ravel in the fantasy of searching for a real villain" gives off GGZ vibes... It gives off the same feeling as when Cocolia revealed to Kiana that Siegfried didn't actually leave Kiana, Kiana just accidentally awoke as God Kiana and erased Siegfried.
So a couple things
1. They react as if in danger of the explosion
2.They come through a fissure themselves (pretty sure they were in the hollow)
3.Bringer says his mission is complete before realizing he didn't kill them
4. Their eyes seem to be glowing almost out of instinct
5. The glitch effects on the twins and bringer
6. "Real villain"
I don't think theres any evidence that they're like Qingyi, but maybe they're partially cybernetic, if Carole raised them then maybe the two were injured when she found them and used Ancient Era tech to save their lives. Which is why they can connect to Eous and even helped Carole make the HDD.
My laptop can't handle the game so unfortunately I'm stuck watching lets plays for now, so I could be way off the mark.
sounds like cocolia with rozalia and liliya
This Is the first gacha game where I'm actually excited to see what happens next, way to go ZZZ! 🐲🙏💕
This has something to do with their teacher.. im not going to say they're not humans yet
IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE COOL AHH SCENE OF THEIR EYES- 0:56
In a way, Bringer was responsible for Miguel Silver's death so Miyabi and the Proxies avenged him for Nekomata
The bgm hits hard
We know that their teacher was involved in the creation of the hollow somehow. The twins family in never mentioned. A They seem to treat the teacher as a parent figure. Since we know they were around during the event. That rule out them being and type of creature from the hollow. But they do have eye implants. That lets them get info in or out the hollow. So their teacher must have either modified the twins to prep them for going into a controlled hollow or made them from the ground up with that in mind. It just that before that ever happen the hollow could have expanded for some reason. Another theory could be that they were born from a smaller hallow, raised like humans with no one telling them about the hollow. Till that same small hollow consumed the old city. Hoyo does have a habit of making there MC "special" in some form or way.
My theory is that they are bangboo like humans. Lab made humans type or human Ethereals, thats why they cant stay too long in hollows and can sync really well with machines
the backdash is always handy to employ in these kinds of situations. rolling is also a good alternative to use if you can
I think them being together in this scene is the key, and maybe it's a barrier type of thing cuz their clothes aren't damaged
The other sibling asked if their sibling's "other parts" was okay apart from their ocular implants. They're *definitely* not 100% human.
Other parts can just refer to limbs.
My 1st thought is actually they are just projection of the siblings from Eous, they are not actually there.
pretty sure they went in and out of a fissure. you can hear the fissure sound after the explosion