Having a look at the title of this clip, "Brainwashing and Mass Media", as a Canadian, I am embarrassed at how little respect Jordan gets here at home. He would be hailed as a hero in most countries, but not in Canada, because of how our mainstream media, which leans almost completely leftward, has shaped the narrative around him. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. Am so proud he has risen above that, though, and is respected around the world...as he should be.
People are terrified of being called bigots. I grew up with predominantly non-white peers and even I feel I cant speak freely incase they think I've become a bigot overnight.
That is sad to hear GK Schick. You have a neighbor from the US that is praying your county wakes up and starts taking care of themselves instead of mindlessly letting government run their lives
@@jessedevilbiss8436 Thx for the support, Jesse. The woke left has taken over and has really made a mess of what used to be a great country. Our freedoms are being eroded before our eyes and the vast majority of folks are oblivious to what is going on. Thank goodness for people like Jordan who aren't afraid to call it out. Let's hope that sooner or later folks will wake up before it it too late.
Thank you! In my work as a pastor on the steets in Hamburg and Berlin, and Sweden in Europe, I have met many kids and young people who say: ”I don’t know, no-one tell me anything”. In Sweden and Germany it is almost forbidden to talk about faith and religion in schools and in social youthcenters. I think we are as adults with our experience and personal beliefs instead obligated to tell the youth what we think, and why we live like we do! So that they can have some alternative in their own thinking about life and how to best live it. I am really thankful for the themes and the talks here!
I live in Friesland not far from Wilhelmshaven. My great niece is 9 my great nephew is 12 they have religious studies twice a week and all the children except the very few Muslim children are and continue to be confirmed after confirmation classes for 1 year in both the protestant and Catholic churches and schools also have easter and Xmas celebrations at the churches and nativity displays . They also have singing festivals at the church.
MR- some may be shallow and full of fear. But certainly not all or even the majority. Sweeping statements are rarely helpful- this they draw attention to the speaker’s frame of mind rather than the idea.
I love your encouragement for long format intellectual conversation. Fact is, Australia, until recent times, hasnt seen complex issues put to them in the scale and complexity like the rest of the world. We havent yet learnt to deal with them as our past has been relatively rosey. Im glad we are finally waking up to it. Keep it up.
I think there are few people on the Aussie broadcasting services that people trust to listen too. Case and point: when Jordan Peterson went on the 'qanda' TV show on the Australian public broadcasting service (ABC) he was actively censored by limiting his speech to 60 second answers. I had never seen this 'rule' on qanda before. What ensued was a disgraceful display of point scoring throw away catch phrases by both the studio audience and sitting members of the Australian government. It's still free for all to see on the qanda TH-cam channel.
A lot of people are quick to perceive failures but are loathed to work solutions. It takes a lot of bravery to work solutions because you risk finding that things are not as bad as you thought.
Great to hear John. He is right about American video but the reason for some of us is it is a leading indicator providing a window. We have some wonderful content producers and leaders in Oz using media extremely well.
I really like being able to get a tutorial on some technical task, a documentary or some news pieces on demand, tailored to my interest. I never watch tv or get cable anymore.
That's because of the brainwashing that starts at primary school and continues until university finishes. Look at the difference between those who went to University and those that didnt who left at 16/17 years of age and went out to work or to train to be nurses or other skilled jobs and those unskilled as well.
I think Australians listen to articulate speakers. The level of public discourse is higher in the US and Canada. But we certainly welcome articulate and thoughtful conversations like this. I just wish we had more people able to do it. The point other posts have made about being retired and free to speak has merit too.
If Australians and Americans had listened to a godly Australian woman the world wouldn't be in as much of a mess it is in now. Dictator Dan is a direct result of the 'church' enabling it in the spirit. I know, I directly confronted them in mid 2019.
How moving to see a leader who is open to change and is willing to risk controversy to move us to true progress and evolve our consciousness. Thank you both
Why is critical thinking not an important part of our education system. Taking newspaper articles, books, political speeches and pulling them to pieces to examine what facts, evidence and logic they contain. Debates have disappeared. You can only find such things now on youtube or similar platforms.
Greetings and respect to my two favorite public figures. However, I see a big "gorilla-in-the-room" (not to be facetious) problem: can democracy prevail over a huge propaganda machine planting fear and misinformation into the minds of more and more indoctrinated population? And, if so, how much damage must be inflicted before that happens? And if not, how to spot the moment when our "democracy" can no longer be considered as such, therefore, justifying overthrow by "other than democratic" means?
The problem is that children need a father and a mother to understand what life should be like kids need a responsible father and a reasonable mother to see the difference between right and wrong. As long as we fight against this natural way of life hate towards others is going to be a natural way of living. I also believe that christian countries must maintain christian values to keep the country whole.
You do realise Judaism and Christianity are not the same religion. And Christianity has many denominations. I presume you would call yourself Christian. Which denomination should people follow. Yours? Any?
I mark 9/11 as the time when things stated getting worse. Australia has had no terrorist attack of any significant magnitude ever and yet we let our freedom slip away, COVID is just the next step of tyranny's long march.
@@harryradley The ABC was stilling running 'The Goodies' in the late nineties. It all changed at the turn of the century now it's all privileged, victims and cancel culture.
Social Media AI Capitalism (Open Source) "Objective Function = Maximize Revenue, Maximize Engagement, Maximize Outrage on All Sides" - Eric Schmidt, former Google chairman and CEO and coauthor of the newly released The Age Of AI: And Our Human Future. Objective Function may also be designed for political outcomes. I call them "Chomsky Bots"
It's so true that the masses love to say how bad their own country, Australia in this case, is yet wouldn't want to leave be anywhere else or don't know anything about the place they say they want to live. When inevitably finding out that it's far worse than their home country they still fight against the tide of truth and continue to bash their own nation. People in Australia literally have no idea how truly lucky they are.
John, The reason why these individuals from overseas are listened to or watched is they give a possibly truer & more rounded view of what is happening in the rest of the world, as opposed to the MSM! or your governments restrictive leanings currently! Similarly we listen to your views and discussions with your guests as they and you give a different perspective to what we get at home! Cheers from Scotland!
Interesting discussion. In UK we have a 30 year old, Old Etonian and musician called Tom Cridland who is articulate, funny, satirical and far more interesting to listen to than (God Forbid) the BBC or ITV news.
The old MacNeil/Leherer News Hour was this good. Unfortunately, since MacNeil left they drifted both toward Socialism, disdain for those who disagree with them, and supporters of the growth of the Leviathan. Initially they had a kind of Unitarian/Universalist type of approach to Truth, but that is now gone.
Think of a balloon that has no air in it. That’s a lot of people who just watch tv. This balloon only expands from listening and reading. Also a lot of people choose to be ignorant, they don’t want to know. Certainly don’t want to know about conflicting opinions that suggest they could be wrong.
Not only should new politicians embrace platforms like U-tube, people have access to smart phones and computers they should be much more involved in the day to day decisions that affects us all. Many of the very important decisions in today's world should be put directly to the people almost on a daily basis, with the technology at hand, government should be smaller, and the peoples opinions should take precedent.
All democracies...what's that? Teacher never told us stuff like that. So it means that our Mums and Dads put you lot here in Canberra? But if our parents Laugh at Canberra, then they must be laughing at themselves. Is that right, Mister?
When I came of age to vote, America had a well spoken and thoughtful leader to consider (Obama). I wish we had viable candidates today that spoke like this. Our leadership now has many with whom I've discussed filled with existential dread.
That was the easiest ballot decision in the world after W. 8 years was all it took for people to forget what a 'worst president ever' looks like. Now Democrats are superlatively inferior.
I have so much respect for DPM John Anderson. Very engaging and intelligent speaker
Having a look at the title of this clip, "Brainwashing and Mass Media", as a Canadian, I am embarrassed at how little respect Jordan gets here at home. He would be hailed as a hero in most countries, but not in Canada, because of how our mainstream media, which leans almost completely leftward, has shaped the narrative around him. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. Am so proud he has risen above that, though, and is respected around the world...as he should be.
People are terrified of being called bigots. I grew up with predominantly non-white peers and even I feel I cant speak freely incase they think I've become a bigot overnight.
He’s an icon
That is sad to hear GK Schick. You have a neighbor from the US that is praying your county wakes up and starts taking care of themselves instead of mindlessly letting government run their lives
@@jessedevilbiss8436 Thx for the support, Jesse. The woke left has taken over and has really made a mess of what used to be a great country. Our freedoms are being eroded before our eyes and the vast majority of folks are oblivious to what is going on. Thank goodness for people like Jordan who aren't afraid to call it out. Let's hope that sooner or later folks will wake up before it it too late.
Indeed
Grown up, intelligent conversation without an agenda is so rare, thank you both
Thank you! In my work as a pastor on the steets in Hamburg and Berlin, and Sweden in Europe, I have met many kids and young people who say: ”I don’t know, no-one tell me anything”. In Sweden and Germany it is almost forbidden to talk about faith and religion in schools and in social youthcenters.
I think we are as adults with our experience and personal beliefs instead obligated to tell the youth what we think, and why we live like we do! So that they can have some alternative in their own thinking about life and how to best live it.
I am really thankful for the themes and the talks here!
I live in Friesland not far from Wilhelmshaven. My great niece is 9 my great nephew is 12 they have religious studies twice a week and all the children except the very few Muslim children are and continue to be confirmed after confirmation classes for 1 year in both the protestant and Catholic churches and schools also have easter and Xmas celebrations at the churches and nativity displays . They also have singing festivals at the church.
Absolutely Awesome conversation - I love JA and JBP
In the West the brain washing has going on at least for the 45 years I have lived here. People are shallow, and full of fear.
MR- some may be shallow and full of fear. But certainly not all or even the majority. Sweeping statements are rarely helpful- this they draw attention to the speaker’s frame of mind rather than the idea.
I learn so much watching Jordan and John on video. Their collective wisdom, knowledge and experience is awesome. Ty gentlemen!
I love your encouragement for long format intellectual conversation.
Fact is, Australia, until recent times, hasnt seen complex issues put to them in the scale and complexity like the rest of the world. We havent yet learnt to deal with them as our past has been relatively rosey.
Im glad we are finally waking up to it.
Keep it up.
Thank you to both of you. Perhaps there’s an opportunity to bypass main stream media which is increasingly divisive, biased and at times unethical
I really do enjoy these long form discussions, particularly when you're interviewing people from the other side of politics.
John Anderson is a legend! His love for truth and education is evident in the way he acts. Go John.
Well said, you can tell true heartfelt words when you hear them.
I think there are few people on the Aussie broadcasting services that people trust to listen too.
Case and point: when Jordan Peterson went on the 'qanda' TV show on the Australian public broadcasting service (ABC) he was actively censored by limiting his speech to 60 second answers. I had never seen this 'rule' on qanda before. What ensued was a disgraceful display of point scoring throw away catch phrases by both the studio audience and sitting members of the Australian government.
It's still free for all to see on the qanda TH-cam channel.
A nauseating program…. Like almost all of them.
Thank you both so much
thank you gentlemen, your care and honesty keeps me going when all around me seems so nonsensical, what you do is appreciated
A lot of people are quick to perceive failures but are loathed to work solutions. It takes a lot of bravery to work solutions because you risk finding that things are not as bad as you thought.
The two most trustworthy men on the internet. I love these clips, small enough so that I can get a grasp on what is being discussed.
The more I hear from John Anderson the more I like him, and Jordan Peterson just gets better and better 👏
Great to hear John. He is right about American video but the reason for some of us is it is a leading indicator providing a window. We have some wonderful content producers and leaders in Oz using media extremely well.
I really like being able to get a tutorial on some technical task, a documentary or some news pieces on demand, tailored to my interest. I never watch tv or get cable anymore.
I absolutely love you two and the conversations that you have. We seem to really lack politicians of John's calibre these days.
That’s because John is a traditional, Australian, democratic decent man.
That's because of the brainwashing that starts at primary school and continues until university finishes. Look at the difference between those who went to University and those that didnt who left at 16/17 years of age and went out to work or to train to be nurses or other skilled jobs and those unskilled as well.
We are at the bottom of the barrel! Now it's just mud slinging.
People respect those who are thoughtful.
I think Australians listen to articulate speakers. The level of public discourse is higher in the US and Canada. But we certainly welcome articulate and thoughtful conversations like this. I just wish we had more people able to do it. The point other posts have made about being retired and free to speak has merit too.
You are wrong. I listen from Texas - have relatives in Croatia and Latin America listening to JP
@@elizabethwilk9615 to whom are you replying? This response seems to be physically attached to my comment but is unrelated to it in terms of content??
Well that was really good. Well done gentlemen. Carry on.
If Australians and Americans had listened to a godly Australian woman the world wouldn't be in as much of a mess it is in now. Dictator Dan is a direct result of the 'church' enabling it in the spirit. I know, I directly confronted them in mid 2019.
In the age of Lincon they debated for hours with their political opposition. Better way forward. Much respect to you both🙏👍🇦🇺
How moving to see a leader who is open to change and is willing to risk controversy to move us to true progress and evolve our consciousness. Thank you both
Why is critical thinking not an important part of our education system. Taking newspaper articles, books, political speeches and pulling them to pieces to examine what facts, evidence and logic they contain. Debates have disappeared. You can only find such things now on youtube or similar platforms.
Greetings and respect to my two favorite public figures. However, I see a big "gorilla-in-the-room" (not to be facetious) problem: can democracy prevail over a huge propaganda machine planting fear and misinformation into the minds of more and more indoctrinated population? And, if so, how much damage must be inflicted before that happens? And if not, how to spot the moment when our "democracy" can no longer be considered as such, therefore, justifying overthrow by "other than democratic" means?
well said!!
This man speaks all about THE TRUTH. LISTEN TO HIM. WE BETTER OR WE ARE DOOMED❗️
What a wonderful way of thinking
The problem is that children need a father and a mother to understand what life should be like kids need a responsible father and a reasonable mother to see the difference between right and wrong. As long as we fight against this natural way of life hate towards others is going to be a natural way of living. I also believe that christian countries must maintain christian values to keep the country whole.
So true. 1. We need God, 2. a loving mum and a Dad. 3. And a government with its foundation in Judeo Christian morals
You do realise Judaism and Christianity are not the same religion. And Christianity has many denominations. I presume you would call yourself Christian. Which denomination should people follow. Yours? Any?
@@redmed10 they are both not Islamist while Islamist are colonizing the west one migrant at a time. That's why no one is going to Islamist countries
John, you have my respect, always have, this isn't democracy, these people are dictators...
"Why our country is different"? Because we are (were) free to ask this question, and answer it in our own way.
Thank you from Arizona.
Food for the soul! Thank you.
When popularity trumps meritocracy, the country goes downhill surprisingly quickly.
In Baton Rouge. Thanks...
If things continue down this covid path..this country will be unrecognisable and not for the better.
I'm 69 years old. It stopped being recognizable...to me...back in the '90s.
I mark 9/11 as the time when things stated getting worse. Australia has had no terrorist attack of any significant magnitude ever and yet we let our freedom slip away, COVID is just the next step of tyranny's long march.
@@harryradley The ABC was stilling running 'The Goodies' in the late nineties. It all changed at the turn of the century now it's all privileged, victims and cancel culture.
@@jackmorgan8931 Yup. The curse of old age is to become an alien in your hometown.
@@harryradley Yes. Same in Canada. The truth is we have never been safer. We should be more free, not less free. This is the curse of socialism.
I’m Australian myself, and the fact I don’t know who John Anderson is just shows you how much I know about politics
Focus on virtuous living neutralizes ignorant obstacles and discredits wrong think
Social Media AI Capitalism (Open Source)
"Objective Function = Maximize Revenue, Maximize Engagement, Maximize Outrage on All Sides" - Eric Schmidt, former Google chairman and CEO and coauthor of the newly released The Age Of AI: And Our Human Future.
Objective Function may also be designed for political outcomes. I call them "Chomsky Bots"
The media promotes what to think not how to think. By controlling what you see they control what you think.
amazing content .
It's so true that the masses love to say how bad their own country, Australia in this case, is yet wouldn't want to leave be anywhere else or don't know anything about the place they say they want to live. When inevitably finding out that it's far worse than their home country they still fight against the tide of truth and continue to bash their own nation. People in Australia literally have no idea how truly lucky they are.
men stepping up and valuing honesty - yes!!!
John, The reason why these individuals from overseas are listened to or watched is they give a possibly truer & more rounded view of what is happening in the rest of the world, as opposed to the MSM! or your governments restrictive leanings currently! Similarly we listen to your views and discussions with your guests as they and you give a different perspective to what we get at home! Cheers from Scotland!
Interesting discussion. In UK we have a 30 year old, Old Etonian and musician called Tom Cridland who is articulate, funny, satirical and far more interesting to listen to than (God Forbid) the BBC or ITV news.
2 giants amongst dwarves
thank you professor,,,
Long live John and Jordan!
Did anyone else spot the irony of this clip being removed from a long conversation for click-bate on TH-cam?
The old MacNeil/Leherer News Hour was this good. Unfortunately, since MacNeil left they drifted both toward Socialism, disdain for those who disagree with them, and supporters of the growth of the Leviathan.
Initially they had a kind of Unitarian/Universalist type of approach to Truth, but that is now gone.
Something people need to understand is that little silicon chip, has changed Everything.
This is a vast understatement. The revolution has barely begun.
Everywhere you look everywhere you look there’s a reason
Get Jordan on with Prof Mattias Desmet for a discussion about brainwashing and mass formation.
Vote Anderson for Prime Minister.
So much convergence
An honest man,and a liar is what I watched
Think of a balloon that has no air in it.
That’s a lot of people who just watch tv.
This balloon only expands from listening and reading. Also a lot of people choose to be ignorant, they don’t want to know. Certainly don’t want to know about conflicting opinions that suggest they could be wrong.
But..., who is the girl at the end? How does John Anderson know her?
Mr. Peterson is one of the very few that will ask a question, and then shut up, and let the guest talk.
Not only should new politicians embrace platforms like U-tube, people have access to smart phones and computers they should be much more involved in the day to day decisions that affects us all. Many of the very important decisions in today's world should be put directly to the people almost on a daily basis, with the technology at hand, government should be smaller, and the peoples opinions should take precedent.
It's strange that the two most famous Canadians of the past 100 years have the same name.
💯💯
Hope Boris watches this !
❤❤
All democracies...what's that? Teacher never told us stuff like that. So it means that our Mums and Dads put you lot here in Canberra?
But if our parents Laugh at Canberra, then they must be laughing at themselves. Is that right, Mister?
👌
"I know, I know. Any country that doesn't have concentration camps like we do now."
It always it's a matter of who will set things right. Who
Jordan Peterson hombre (John Anderson is OK too).
Gab is down right now. Too many people migrated to it.
They are all democracies and Anglo Saxon John!
Broadcast, programming, channels, under stand?
Where not suppose to be doing this where not ready for this , it's been handed to us, us having these problems is proof enough
If only Uncle Chop Chop was around to see the state of the world.......I guess he would laugh like I am
👍👍💯
This particular clip does not tie up with it's title
I like Anderson but how come he's not in the coof gulag?
Watch videos on manufacturing consent.
When I came of age to vote, America had a well spoken and thoughtful leader to consider (Obama). I wish we had viable candidates today that spoke like this. Our leadership now has many with whom I've discussed filled with existential dread.
That was the easiest ballot decision in the world after W. 8 years was all it took for people to forget what a 'worst president ever' looks like. Now Democrats are superlatively inferior.
His ability with the auto cue was unsurpassed . Contemporary politicians just don't do it as well
The Aussie guy didn't really say anything of substance.
please don't use false titles for your clips or I will downvote
@jordan Peterson how much money for you to talk to me 1 on 1
Edward Barneys: "Propaganda."
I find the bbc cult like and sinister
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Do I want to listen to this? No