This is one of the more interesting videos in a while. I enjoyed it. Seems like you gave more details in everything this time. You should consider making a very detailed video from start to finish on making instruments and make and sell the kits to build an instrument from start to finish. I think it would sell fairly well. Awesome video thanks for sharing. Stay well & safe everyone.
Jerry, for keeping parts from moving around on you during glueup, a traditional method is to place a few grains of sand between them. It works like a charm. However, I recently learned another way to do it: replace the sand grains with salt. Again, only a few grains are needed and the advantage is that the salt won't damage knives, plane irons, etc.
Nothing wrong using hand tools on a project. I subscribe to several woodworking channels and many of the craftsmen would rather use hand tools for the crucial or visual areas. They say it is comforting and relaxing and something about it mentally ties them with the old masters of past. Speed isn't everything, but craftmanship and the love of creating the instrument is. Your instruments are not mass produced but hand made. Keep doing what you're doing if it works for you. Best wishes Jerry and Caleb!
Wow the Guitar parts are looking really good and i can hardly wait for the next part although i know that it will just keep getting better and better, Well done my friend you do not disappoint.
Jerry: Your customer is buying a handmade guitar. This means handtools done to the individual skill of the luthier. You are doing exactly what the customer expects. If he wanted a "perfect" guitar he'd buy a Martin made to machine specks. You are doing great, keep up the good work.
" If he wanted a "perfect" guitar he'd buy a Martin made to machine specks." Dude, Martins are Not perfect. They and Taylor may be the best factory guitars, but they are Not perfect. Yes, I saw the " " on perfect. It's just a poor choice of words. No criticism, just making a point. 😉
I learn something about every time I watch your videos. About 37:45, you mention the glue acting as a lubricant. No worries, I'm not going to criticize your technique in any way or say anything about putting salt in the glue: I don't like that idea, either. On one of his shows, Roy Underhill showed how to use hide glue to rub two pieces of well-fitted wood together perpendicular to the joint and get them to stick to each other. I think this works by working all of the air out of the joint, so it's like a natural 1 atmosphere vacuum press. This has the added benefit of spreading the glue more evenly. It probably works better with glue that sets up faster, like hot hide glue. I just thought I'd share the idea with you, for whatever it's worth to you. Big thumbs up to crush a troll.
Classic Rosa. " This is actually a very simple process - you just glue some boards together, then remove everything which isn't a neck!" Simple but Complicated :-)
I do put back(carpentry)after water losses and such.alot of what we do is on houses and commercial properties that are 75-100 years old.we arent removing structural walls or doing any foundation work. So i can really relate to your comment "It doesnt have to be perfectly level,but flat is good"
Thanks mate for a top video. A'm really getting scunnered with the thumbs down brigade. I'm glad they don't put you off sharing with us. So respect to you mate and stay healthy all.
By no means trying to tell you how to build the guitar, I've owned a few 12 strings, the bridge always pulls up. I hope you put a thicker bridge plate in it than a regular 6 string. A guy told me the cheap 12 strings I had, had too small of a bridge plate, they couldn't handle the extra psi of the additional strings. (I'm sure you've thought of that.) Any way, she's going to be a beauty. Can't wait for the next video. PS hope the hands aren't bothering you too much. Have my grandkids praying, my 11 yr old grandson watches you every time he's here. He decided we should fix guitars, so I told him watch Mr Jerry & Caleb, they're pros, you can learn a lot, if you pay attention. Blessings from me & my little ones.
If your bridge plate is too small or thin or poor wood, it will cause belly bulge. If your bridge is pulling up, it is a bad glue job and the bridge needs to be removed, cleaned and re-glued. Jerry use a larger, (thicker?), Padauk plate, to avoid "belly bulge".
Hello Jerry, I was just wondering how you like the new two cherries chisels, no that you have used them for a couple of months? I enjoyed watching you install the electronic ignition in the Ford 4000 tractor? All the best, Edgar
Does that many braces alter the resonance and the natural frequency of the guitar top. The top is where the vibrations of the strings arrive on the instrument ? Just wondering ? Beautyful work !
Hey Jerry! It might be too late for you to answer this question for your 12-string build videos, but I’m wondering why some guitar brands put the bridge pin holes for the upper octave strings closest to the saddle, and others put the lower octaves there. Are they merely trying to differentiate themselves from other guitar makers, or is there a theory about the break angle of the strings that makes one better than the other? How do you plan to do yours? Always a joy to watch you and Caleb work!
Jerry, after the guitar is finished and starts the aging process, does the Padauk retain the redness or fade like your example there? I absolutely love it! Can’t wait to see the 12 string come to life.
I usually just screw the head veneer where the tuners go, and clamp after. I mean a really small screw just enough to go through the veneer and into the wood at the back.
Jerry, please solve a mystery. How does your self made sander work? I’ve never seen what’s underneath the wooden box. You put material in and it sands it very nicely. But, the mystery sander sanded a curve on the base of the peghead. How in the world did it do that?
Hey Jerry, how much does the kinds of wood used in the 3 piece back change the final sound of the guitar? What I'm getting at, can you put just about any 2 or 3 kinds of tone wood together for the back with no noticeable degradation of the tone? High end guitars, like the ones you hand build, all tend to have multiple pieced backs. I figure you "wood" know! Love from NW Colorado. Thanxz
There are many thing to consider in choosing a back wood. There is the basic density and hardness, tightness of grain and the tonal quality of any, particular, piece. Mixing species, will, certainly, alter tone. Good, bad, who knows. Experimentation and experience.
Martin D-35 certainly sounded good enough eg Gordon Lightfoot early 70s. It is not likely to make a lot of difference as the pieces are all Padauk. The quality of the wood used and the top make more difference.
Hi Jerry. I’m new to building guitars; half was finished with my 5th one. I’ve seen on TH-cam some luthiers put a dome on their tops anywhere from 28 foot to 51 foot radius. Looks like yours is flat. I don’t know the reasoning for either one.
Hey Rosa, I am honestly liking the progress on the 12 string guitar. Like your other guitars, I can tell it is going to be a boomer. I know you are already further on in the project compared to the video, but is bracing a 12 string the same as a six string meaning will the thickness of the brace be the same or will it be thicker for a 12 string guitar. Just curious.
Hi Jerry I’m sure this has been thought of and dismissed, but would it make sense to finish the inside of the back to allow the sound to “bounce” out the sound hole with more force?
Having grown up in feet n inches but changing to metric while at high school I’m in a position to say it’s so much easier in metric especially when 23/64ths measurements appear
Thanks for the video. I was hesitant at first, but a few grains of table salt help prevent slipping during glue up. They act like little anchors or something once you put some pressure on. I find it especially helpful gluing braces on my homemade 'go deck' (just a low shelf that juts out over a bench in my shop). People actually buy those things? Being an amateur, I love seeing what people with experience are doing so I make fewer mistakes. Keep making 'em, and I'll keep watching!
what exactly are the x-braces for?... obviously support of some kind but their placement affects things as well as their weight and shape i would imagine?... it seems you could pull certain tones out by placement and etc.. i mean... just looking at the top... you can see the areas that will vibrate more freely...
@@jonerlandson1956 They use a rare wood that when tapped gently makes a sound that the luthier finds acceptable and the wood is thin less than..125 in. That is quite thin but resonates very well but not very structuraly strong, so they add braces to stiffen it. I think that the braces changes the natural frequency to some degree but if positionned properly, the change is not affected too much. One would say : use thicker wood ! But the resonance would be more affected compared to having braces at the correct position.
The Martin D28 style is the iconic standard guitar style/shape of the industry or industrywide. It's probably about one third the price of this one. Difference is that this one is made to a higher standard; translation: sounds a lot better. I think a Stradivarius looks like all the others; big difference in the sound though. While a Martin might be a better investment at first thought; maby not... Does CF Martin let a neck sit for a day or two to think about it; lol!
Wait for the finished product. I will look Nothing like a Martin. It will, also, Be Nothing like a Martin. That's why people will pay more than $6,500, for it.
Ha, I just said the same thing. I've done it with all sorts of stuff including braces. I don't really like the idea of salt being there, but it works so well I do it- but really sparingly.
Jewry have you ever heard of putting a little course salt crystals in a glue up to keep it from shifting? Some people put in a tiny brad then nip off the head slightly above surface.
A tip I saw mentioned by Ben Crow at Crimson Guitars that if you put a bit of salt on your glued area before placing the two parts together is that it helps stop things sliding around; and the salt should not cause any bonding issues.
I've used Padauk in the past, however have now developed an allergic reaction to the stuff. Terrible rash. Always be careful when using these exotic woods, and keep your dust exposure to a minimum .
Saw you cutting the braces slots with the saw on top of the guitar top and I thought I was watching an action movie. Why the unnecessary risk there? You want to give you viewers a heart attack?
Love these videos. Thanks for letting me have the pleasure of watching you make these fabulous instruments.
That Padauk is Such a beautiful wood! I find it absolutely moving.
That is Not to say moving 👍, but moving 💘😍🥰.
Thanks for sharing Jerry, looking forward to see finished masterpiece 👍
I love your videos Jerry! Always learn something new each episode.....
This is one of the more interesting videos in a while. I enjoyed it. Seems like you gave more details in everything this time. You should consider making a very detailed video from start to finish on making instruments and make and sell the kits to build an instrument from start to finish. I think it would sell fairly well. Awesome video thanks for sharing. Stay well & safe everyone.
Jerry, for keeping parts from moving around on you during glueup, a traditional method is to place a few grains of sand between them. It works like a charm. However, I recently learned another way to do it: replace the sand grains with salt. Again, only a few grains are needed and the advantage is that the salt won't damage knives, plane irons, etc.
I am having trouble waiting for this one to be finished Jerry, I really enjoy your end products! Thanks for Sharing Friend...
Nothing wrong using hand tools on a project. I subscribe to several woodworking channels and many of the craftsmen would rather use hand tools for the crucial or visual areas. They say it is comforting and relaxing and something about it mentally ties them with the old masters of past. Speed isn't everything, but craftmanship and the love of creating the instrument is. Your instruments are not mass produced but hand made. Keep doing what you're doing if it works for you. Best wishes Jerry and Caleb!
I know that if I ever made a dreadnought top, it would look more like the seat of an old outhouse. Nice work, Jerry!
So, why not start with That?
That way, if the job stinks, you can say
"Weeeell,.....it's the Wood." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s looking great, Jerry.👍👍
my Dad and I used to build timber frames. It's looking good
Wow the Guitar parts are looking really good and i can hardly wait for the next part although i know that it will just keep getting better and better, Well done my friend you do not disappoint.
Wau... I love the new entry. Ver very nice
As always love the channel but the guitar builds always draw me in nice work
mel yah cracked me up again,lmao. jerry,a open bandsaw and the song,'he cut me',awsome job.sending the love.thank you.
Thanks Jerry I'm really enjoying watching this project 👍
I love watching your videos. Your instruments look amazing. Thanks for posting them
I believe that the hand work gives the instrument a very personal touch!
Starting to look real nice Jerry. Can't wait to see the final product.
Jerry: Your customer is buying a handmade guitar. This means handtools done to the individual skill of the luthier. You are doing exactly what the customer expects. If he wanted a "perfect" guitar he'd buy a Martin made to machine specks. You are doing great, keep up the good work.
" If he wanted a "perfect" guitar he'd buy a Martin made to machine specks."
Dude, Martins are Not perfect. They and Taylor may be the best factory guitars,
but they are Not perfect.
Yes, I saw the " " on perfect. It's just a poor choice of words.
No criticism, just making a point. 😉
Always inspiring Jerry! Thank you for letting us all benefit from your wealth of experience!
lots of work but is going to pay off in the end! 12 strings are a beast to work on for me.
The rosette is beautiful! And your attention to detail is amazing.”You just glue boards together and cut away everything that’s not a neck.” 😆
Love the new intro to your videos! Cool!
I learn something about every time I watch your videos. About 37:45, you mention the glue acting as a lubricant. No worries, I'm not going to criticize your technique in any way or say anything about putting salt in the glue: I don't like that idea, either.
On one of his shows, Roy Underhill showed how to use hide glue to rub two pieces of well-fitted wood together perpendicular to the joint and get them to stick to each other. I think this works by working all of the air out of the joint, so it's like a natural 1 atmosphere vacuum press. This has the added benefit of spreading the glue more evenly. It probably works better with glue that sets up faster, like hot hide glue. I just thought I'd share the idea with you, for whatever it's worth to you. Big thumbs up to crush a troll.
Some parafine wax is a great help. I use it also for sawing the fret slots. Works great.
Classic Rosa. " This is actually a very simple process - you just glue some boards together, then remove everything which isn't a neck!" Simple but Complicated :-)
It's called sculpting.
Simple only to those who can do it.
@@zapa1pnt The master of understatement
I do put back(carpentry)after water losses and such.alot of what we do is on houses and commercial properties that are 75-100 years old.we arent removing structural walls or doing any foundation work.
So i can really relate to your comment
"It doesnt have to be perfectly level,but flat is good"
Thanks mate for a top video. A'm really getting scunnered with the thumbs down brigade. I'm glad they don't put you off sharing with us. So respect to you mate and stay healthy all.
So much information! Who is alan dust and where can I get the details on hos rounder?
By no means trying to tell you how to build the guitar, I've owned a few 12 strings, the bridge always pulls up. I hope you put a thicker bridge plate in it than a regular 6 string. A guy told me the cheap 12 strings I had, had too small of a bridge plate, they couldn't handle the extra psi of the additional strings. (I'm sure you've thought of that.) Any way, she's going to be a beauty. Can't wait for the next video. PS hope the hands aren't bothering you too much. Have my grandkids praying, my 11 yr old grandson watches you every time he's here. He decided we should fix guitars, so I told him watch Mr Jerry & Caleb, they're pros, you can learn a lot, if you pay attention. Blessings from me & my little ones.
If your bridge plate is too small or thin or poor wood, it will cause belly bulge.
If your bridge is pulling up, it is a bad glue job and the bridge needs to be
removed, cleaned and re-glued.
Jerry use a larger, (thicker?), Padauk plate, to avoid "belly bulge".
The biggest projects are made great by the smallest details...
thank you!! been waiting, can't wait for more!
Hello Jerry, I was just wondering how you like the new two cherries chisels, no that you have used them for a couple of months? I enjoyed watching you install the electronic ignition in the Ford 4000 tractor?
All the best, Edgar
I think they are quite adequate I like them very much
Does that many braces alter the resonance and the natural frequency of the guitar top.
The top is where the vibrations of the strings arrive on the instrument ? Just wondering ?
Beautyful work !
Looks like you’re enjoying the “new”chisels. You recommend them enthusiastically?
Hey Jerry! It might be too late for you to answer this question for your 12-string build videos, but I’m wondering why some guitar brands put the bridge pin holes for the upper octave strings closest to the saddle, and others put the lower octaves there. Are they merely trying to differentiate themselves from other guitar makers, or is there a theory about the break angle of the strings that makes one better than the other? How do you plan to do yours? Always a joy to watch you and Caleb work!
Is that the whole ball of wax?
It looks like you're making good progress on the guitar!
thank you
Jerry, after the guitar is finished and starts the aging process, does the Padauk retain the redness or fade like your example there? I absolutely love it! Can’t wait to see the 12 string come to life.
It gets darker and darker
I usually just screw the head veneer where the tuners go, and clamp after.
I mean a really small screw just enough to go through the veneer and into the wood at the back.
Jerry, please solve a mystery. How does your self made sander work? I’ve never seen what’s underneath the wooden box. You put material in and it sands it very nicely. But, the mystery sander sanded a curve on the base of the peghead. How in the world did it do that?
There are a couple of videos showing how I made the sander
See videos 024, 032, 065,182,183 ad 336.
Hi Jerry
I really enjoy your videos
Just wondering if pins like you use the fretboard would work to stablelize the veneer on the peg head
Hey Jerry, how much does the kinds of wood used in the 3 piece back change the final sound of the guitar? What I'm getting at, can you put just about any 2 or 3 kinds of tone wood together for the back with no noticeable degradation of the tone? High end guitars, like the ones you hand build, all tend to have multiple pieced backs. I figure you "wood" know! Love from NW Colorado. Thanxz
There are many thing to consider in choosing a back wood.
There is the basic density and hardness, tightness of grain
and the tonal quality of any, particular, piece.
Mixing species, will, certainly, alter tone. Good, bad, who knows.
Experimentation and experience.
Martin D-35 certainly sounded good enough eg Gordon Lightfoot early 70s. It is not likely to make a lot of difference as the pieces are all Padauk. The quality of the wood used and the top make more difference.
Hi Jerry. I’m new to building guitars; half was finished with my 5th one. I’ve seen on TH-cam some luthiers put a dome on their tops anywhere from 28 foot to 51 foot radius. Looks like yours is flat. I don’t know the reasoning for either one.
Just out of curiosity, since your bracing is asymmetrical, does it matter if you're making a guitar for l a righthander or a lefty?
Dear Jerry, I have a Yamaha F G-360 that the action is real high on it and I bought it brand new in 1976 .Would you work on it for me?
Hey Rosa, I am honestly liking the progress on the 12 string guitar. Like your other guitars, I can tell it is going to be a boomer. I know you are already further on in the project compared to the video, but is bracing a 12 string the same as a six string meaning will the thickness of the brace be the same or will it be thicker for a 12 string guitar. Just curious.
I am leaving the braces whole not scalloped as on the 6 strings.
Very very good that right
Like #268
Thanks for the video!
Why did this go from the 12 string back to a different guitar?
Hi Jerry I’m sure this has been thought of and dismissed, but would it make sense to finish the inside of the back to allow the sound to “bounce” out the sound hole with more force?
Finish Muffles the sound a lot it's never good to finish the inside of an instrument
@@RosaStringWorks wow you’re up early (or late) !
Imported guitars are often finished, on the inside, because they
are shipped on the ocean, in poorly sealed shipping containers.
Who is singing, she sounds like a good one.
Daughter-in-law Emeri.
Having grown up in feet n inches but changing to metric while at high school I’m in a position to say it’s so much easier in metric especially when 23/64ths measurements appear
Both systems are easy. I use them both interchangeably
@Gustavo Muchavo 1/2 vs 9/16 ? Even a blind man can see that.
Thanks for the video. I was hesitant at first, but a few grains of table salt help prevent slipping during glue up. They act like little anchors or something once you put some pressure on. I find it especially helpful gluing braces on my homemade 'go deck' (just a low shelf that juts out over a bench in my shop). People actually buy those things? Being an amateur, I love seeing what people with experience are doing so I make fewer mistakes. Keep making 'em, and I'll keep watching!
I don't like salt
@@RosaStringWorks Me either, no salt shakers in my house.
If you use something granular, use fine sand.
Sand will not compromise the glue or deteriorate the wood.
what exactly are the x-braces for?... obviously support of some kind but their placement affects things as well as their weight and shape i would imagine?... it seems you could pull certain tones out by placement and etc.. i mean... just looking at the top... you can see the areas that will vibrate more freely...
I've asked a similar question to Jerry. Waiting for his opinion
@@SuperNarcissius
it seem the bracing would influence the vibrational patterns throughout the surface?
@@SuperNarcissius
i wonder if there's some kind of camera that would allow you to detect that?
@@jonerlandson1956 They use a rare wood that when tapped gently makes a sound that the luthier finds acceptable and the wood is thin less than..125 in.
That is quite thin but resonates very well but not very structuraly strong, so they add braces to stiffen it. I think that the braces changes the natural frequency to some degree but if positionned properly, the change is not affected too much.
One would say : use thicker wood ! But the resonance would be more affected compared to having braces at the correct position.
@@SuperNarcissius
what... trial and error?...
How deep do you cut the dovetail joint?
I use an old candle which I understand could well be paraffin wax.
Why not vacuum press the braces?
Eastern red cedar grows in Missouri, not Western red cedar
Really wanted to see your top bracing pattern
You must have missed the video on it it's there
Go to 6:23, in the video.
Thanks, I see it now.
You cut everything which is not a neck ... Out of contexte you are a sharp samouraï :-)
Those look like Eastern Red Cedar, or Aromatic Cedar, not Western Red Cedar. but my computer is old and the colors may be off.
I knew someone would catch that I misspoke
@@RosaStringWorks more a fellow carpenter was confused, like thinking my eyes are deceiving me, lol!!
Would you build me a 00 or 000 slope shoulder guitar?
Looks like a Martin .
The Martin D28 style is the iconic standard guitar style/shape of the industry or industrywide. It's probably about one third the price of this one. Difference is that this one is made to a higher standard; translation: sounds a lot better. I think a Stradivarius looks like all the others; big difference in the sound though. While a Martin might be a better investment at first thought; maby not...
Does CF Martin let a neck sit for a day or two to think about it; lol!
Wait for the finished product. I will look Nothing like a Martin.
It will, also, Be Nothing like a Martin.
That's why people will pay more than $6,500, for it.
I saw somewhere that if you use a light amount of table salt in your glue it will help in preventing glue ups from sliding
Ha, I just said the same thing. I've done it with all sorts of stuff including braces. I don't really like the idea of salt being there, but it works so well I do it- but really sparingly.
If you use something granular, use fine sand.
Sand will not compromise the glue or deteriorate the wood.
Ya know, if you used a template for the neck dovetail, it'd be perfect right from the go. Of course, I don't need to tell you that.
Funny how people keep saying that even after I said it in the video
Jewry have you ever heard of putting a little course salt crystals in a glue up to keep it from shifting? Some people put in a tiny brad then nip off the head slightly above surface.
yes, dont like it.
Jeez Jerry, I haven’t seen you tapping on the wood that much on this build. What’s up with that?
A tip I saw mentioned by Ben Crow at Crimson Guitars that if you put a bit of salt on your glued area before placing the two parts together is that it helps stop things sliding around; and the salt should not cause any bonding issues.
If you use something granular, use fine sand.
Sand will not compromise the glue or deteriorate the wood.
I've used Padauk in the past, however have now developed an allergic reaction to the stuff. Terrible rash. Always be careful when using these exotic woods, and keep your dust exposure to a minimum .
Have you ever considered using a "Spanish Heel" neck. It would eliminate the need for neck resets.
Mass produced guitar tuners are absolutely all the same ?
No, at 30:45 he said "All tuning keys aren't made exactly the same."
Sprinkle a little salt on the glue, it will prevent parts from sliding.
If you use something granular, use fine sand.
Sand will not compromise the glue or deteriorate the wood.
Saw you cutting the braces slots with the saw on top of the guitar top and I thought I was watching an action movie. Why the unnecessary risk there? You want to give you viewers a heart attack?
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