great overview of the rifle. The M110s I used in the military were accurate for sure. Ours were a little less reliable than the SCAR Hs though but it's a small sample size. I'd feel confident saying both are more accurate and reliable than the M14s though.
Judd Hack With Fed 308 GMM 168 you can get between 1 and 1.5 MOA. Which is not bad for a battle rifle with a 16 inch, chrome lined lightweight barrel. It’s also a whole lot lighter. 600 yards is about it’s max effective range on a man sized target with match ammo, and a good scope. Muzzle velocity with old style Fed 168 will be around 2600. The new production stuff is about 100 FPS slower.
It seems to be, based on this channel, 5 basic modes of thought when it comes to how the military chooses firearms among other things: 1. Tradition especially if it can be linked to WW2 2. What’s cheapest 3. Whatever Congress tells them to keep jobs in their districts 4. Eh just break out the old stuff we got in storage 5. And rarest of all, what actually meets the needs of the troops in the field
As someone who works in military acquisitions i havent seen 1) much, but the rest are spot on. Unfortunately there is so much politics and penny pinching involved that the best possible product rarely makes it to the field.
Well when everything on the market is just some variation of an AR you can pretty much just throw darts at a board because no matter what you will have an AR or an AR.
The SR-25, the best bolt action rifle I ever owned; to quote a sniper school instructor. He bought his in 1995. He finally gave up and sold it. You have to wonder if the issue he was having has do to the plastic guide rod that was used in place of a buffer system that the M110 uses? The barrels Remington supplied Knight were blanks for the Army M24 SWS. That was after Remington started producing their own barrels for the M24. The first 200 M24’s were made with cut rifled barrels made by Mike Rock. Those first guns were later rebarreled with new production Remington barrels. I fired M24, Initial Production Test Rifle #2 when I was stationed at the Rock Island Arsenal in the late 1980’s. Rifle #1 was in the John Browning Museum at the RIA. The informationabout the barrels came from Mike Rock when I met him in the mid 90’s. That was when he was producing barrels for the Armalite AR-10T. The Marine Corp M40A1’s used Atkinson, Hart, and later mainly Scheinder barrels which were all 24 inch 1X12 twist. The M24 SWS used 26 inch, 1-11.25 twist barrels with 5R rifling.
I owned a Knights Armament SR 25 which I purchased in Helena ,Mt. in 1996. I later picked up a Springfield M1A Loaded. I also had a DS Arms . Those are all gone now but I have a Smith and Wesson Optic Ready carbine now. I put a A2 stock on it and will test it using the lead weight in the stock compartment. I think it will shoot groups good enough for an old blind guy.
The AR platform really is that “universal rifle” that every military has been looking for forever. M4s for close range/urban combat, M16s for urban/suburban/medium range combat, M110s for medium to long ranges. Full auto M16s or M110s with drums could be SAWs. It really is the Carbine, Rifle, DMR, and SAW all in one platform
Same goes for the Akm system.. There's short barrel sub machine guns and long/short carbines, as well as light machine guns/saw in the RPK.. The Romanians even made a DMR version with the PSL in 762x54r.. I wouldn't count the Dragunov as it's a completely different operating system being short-stroke piston vs a standard AK long-stroke system (which the PSL has a long stroke). There are even pistol caliber shooting versions of aks like with the ar15.. Albeit the ar15/ar10 is more suitable for accuracy for dmr's.
I was right with you up to the "John Browning's got nothing on Gene Stoner". Might want to re-think that. JUST the M2 ALONE is reason enough! Browning designed it before Stoner was born....still in use today I do believe. The issue with making "upgrades" to a system that already does the job is usually MONEY. Of course Knights wants to make upgrades to a rifle that has an existing contract....that's REVENUE! Let's not pretend Knights is this altruistic company that recommends these things ONLY out of a desire to improve the weapon. That said, nice vid and love the M110!
I really enjoyed this video. Excellent information, and I enjoy the comments from the vets, even if i don't understand many of them. I bought my rifle more than 20 years ago for home defence and have enjoyed it immensely without a hiccup. It is a Bushmaster that came with a 10.5" barrel and I haven't changed anything on it, except that I added a light. The only thing I regret is not having bought two.
Very good presentation on E.Stoners work /creations ! Though , No one should ever say that about J.M.Browning, as I'm pretty sure E. Stoner would agree ! Cheers
Great history and story behind these AR10 rifles! Thank you, for sharing! Wow, that M110 is just gorgeous! As always thank you for your in depth history behind this program. Cheers!
The ones we received and currently use in the marines are very hit or miss I've gotten lucky and have had m110s issued to myself in multiple units that were very accurate and reliable. But have also seen just as many that wouldnt hold anything less than a 1.5 inch group at 100m. A lot have had cycling issues and trigger problems. Have also seen a good amount fire multiple rounds at once. Zero shifts and cold bore shots are usually nothing to write home about either. Across the board they couldnt hold a candle to the m40A5. Now with the A6 out it's a little more comparable accuracy wise, for some reason the m40a6's aren't overall as accurate as the A5s were (at least from my experiences) and with the inception of the MK13 the M40A6 is damn near obsolete 3 years after its initial fielding outside of training and certain urban environments where a short suppressed bolt gun is still appreciated, can someone say XM3. Anything 800m and in is definitely realistic for the m110. I have an appreciation for the good ones out there but the lack of QC we've experienced leads me to favor my bolt gun still. Some design features a lot of us were never fond of is mostly the suppressor mounting system and the ambi controls (tends to snag on gear and eject magazines) I'd never trade my bolt gun for the m110. But as a sniper support weapon/rapid engagement precision rifle it definitely meets the need but is quickly becoming outclassed in 2019 which is expected. There's some snipers not particularly fond of the m110 being there's still bad guys alive because the gun failed at the worst possible time, not my experience but another man's. I've yet to see a gas gun of any kind (KAC, Larue, JP, etc) outperform a well built bolt action rifle dedicated for precision shooting in accuracy or consistency of accuracy.
The British army didn't really use SLRs in the Gulf war because of the failure of the SA80 or anything, it just hadn't actually been fully adopted yet. The SA80 was only fully officially adopted in 1994. If you think using SLRs in the Gulf war is bad, my dad carried a Bren gun.
@@muwuny you know, I actually think that it was Big Army. 1 AD if I'm not mistaken. To my knowledge, the USMC wasn't issuing SMGs to armored crews at the time
The active duty Marine tankers went into theater with M60A1’s. The M3A1 SMG’s were not part of the SL-3 gear for that tank. They had M16A2’s and M9’s. The Marine Corps never got the high tech M60A3. Delta Company 4th Tank Bn which was a Reserve Unit had transitioned to the M1A1 before deploying. They were loaned Army M1A1’s when they arrived in Saudi. The active duty side got the M1A1 tanks after they got back. That came from a team mate on the USMCR Rifle Team. He served with 1st Tank Bn during Desert Storm. When they crossed the Line of Departure they were in M60A1 RISE / PASSIVE Tanks. That tank used an optical range finder, and had passive night vision, and appliqué armor. The Saudi armored units had newer and more capable M60A3’s. He mentioned that they ran across one sitting along side the MSR. Being good Marines they promptly cut the lock on the turret hatch, and proceeded to rat fuck it for anything useful! The British forces that deployed during Desert Storm had the L85, and LSW. The SAS units used M16A1’s. There may have been some British Units with L1A1’s. I know the Royal Marines that attended the Marine Corps Eastern Division Matches at Camp Lejeune in the spring of 1990 used L85’s. And they were a piece of crap then. They couldn’t even shoot US M855 ammo because it was to hot for the receiver. They had to ship over their own issued ammo for the Matches. They were still using Browning 9MM Highpower pistols at that time. Those were pretty decent.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 I guess the M14 can be okay for 21 gun salutes at funerals, granted blanks for the M16 are just as accessible so it comes down to whichever looks better.
I miss my m110. Thing was great. I, personally, despised the scope I had on it. Cant even remember what it was anymore...... just remember the crosshairs didnt intersect. Worked for some, but I couldn't do what I wanted with it. Felt I never got to put the rifle through its paces. Still an outstanding rifle to shoot.
17B's were issued M110's? Interesting. The 3.5-10x Mark 4 on the M110 uses the TMR, which is FAR superior to the standard mil-dot like the one in the M3A we used on our M24's as each element of the reticle is much finer allowing for better range estimation, etc. BTW, the two M110's we had in my section when we deployed to 🇦🇫 in 2008 we serial numbers 36 and 42.
I know this is a old ass comment but I just wanted to stop by and call bullshit. Why in the flying fuck would a 17B get issued a m110 lol? What are you going to engage with it, your computer screen? 17Bs are totally one of the MOSs that get issued the old school m16s longer than a musket you see POGs lug around some kush FOB, or BAF/KAF lol
Another very good presentation with the critical background information. From the information you have supplied and consistent with what vets have experienced in the field, the folks in the 5-sided building do not want to be winners. Every generation of soldiers train hard but they are not given the best tools of the trade. Combat produces many Lessons Learned, and it reasonably follows that weapons' performance can be greatly improved. But the logistic folk resist change and some manuals may have to be amended. Change is the only constant in life. However in the 5-sided building it seems that politics and kick-backs are to order of the day. My SF Commando unit used the M110 in the DMR role and the .338 Lapua & .50 HMG for the more intimate applications. The M110 is popular in the overwatch role during a compound clearance because the assault team can instigate multiple insurgent responses inside the compound that a semi auto rifle is best suited for. I do like the bolt release, makes for slick drills; certainly better than the bolt-on BAD. Thanks again for your valuable contribution, Greg
Very indepth and great review and history of Stoners Rifle , I agree hes up there with Browning for ingenuity and longevity of a great design multi role weapon system .
This rifle was the inspiration for me to build the rifle in my safe that gets shot the most. I wanted to build a clone correct rifle but that would have been more money that should spend on a hobby. The rifle I did build is very accurate and loads of fun. Thank you for the VERY informative primer on one of my favorite military rifles.
i meet one guy in my days who preferred the m21 over a m110 or sr-25 and he was former military and a active contractor marksman and he just has alot of trigger time with the m21 and he will say i just like it more and shoot it better that is a grand total of one hardly a large sample size
At my old police department we were allowed to buy our own rifles. So a bought an HK PSG-1. My old school (Remington 700P) Sgt was not happy. He couldn't complain after our first day at the range.
You will not find it, because sadly the gun gurus give no respect to A.R.M.S. When is the last time anyone did a video on his products and the quality and price.
The info on the M118 is a bit off. The M118 round started its life as the M118 National Match. It was made by Lake City AAP. It used the 173gr FMJ BT projectile and was packed in white boxes with red and blue lettering with the word Match on the side. The case head was marked Match. It was intended to be used in NM 14’s for competition. The projectile was carried over from the .30 caliber M72 National Match round. It’s performance left something to be desired by competitive shooters. The projectiles performance was inferior to Sierras MK BTHP’s. Production of that stopped in the early 80’s. It was replaced by the M852 National Match cartridge. That used the Sierra 168 MK bullet. It was packed in brown boxes. The case head was marked Match, and it had a knurled ring around the case about 1/4 inch up from the base. It’s primary use was Competitive shooting. In the early 1990’s JAG lawyers reversed their ruling on this round and said we could shoot enemy combatants with it. But it’s effective range through M40A1, or M24 SWS was still about 800yards. Could you kill people beyond that range with it? Yeah. But it wasn’t a 1 shot, 1 kill situation. It was more like small caliber indirect fire. The spotter was your F.O. He help adjust your fire on to the target. At 1000 yard your rounds were moving around trans sonic speed depending on conditions. At 1000 yards the holes in the target were elliptical because it’s trajectory was that high. M118 Special Ball became the standard issue round for snipers. Since lawyers in the 80’s said it was illegal to shoot enemy combatant’s with hollow point projectiles. That changed in the early 90’s. Special Ball used standard Lake City brass and the ubiquitous 173gr FMJ BT projectile. And it still shot like crap. Marine Scout Snipers wanted something with better long range performance than the M852 Match round. That resulted in the M118 Long Range round being produced. It’s case head had L R along with LC and the year on manufacture stamped on it. It used the Sierra 175gr MK projectile.
I can machine down a Geislse and press in a SMALL tungsten weight to bring the balance back to the trigger. GREAT PRODUCTION AS ALWAYS! I can still do amazing stuff with a full control Mauser style bolt rifle chambered in .300 Win Mag or .338 Lapua. Even my Belgian .30-06 Browning Safari Mauser action rifle is a very respectable rifle out past 600 yards. With the loads my father put in .30-06 800 yards + EASY. The M14 was an awful rifle, unless you are fighting a war in the 1930s.
I disagree. This weapon didn't change many operators' opinions of whether or not semiautomatic rifles were a better fit for snipers than bolt action rifles. The nature of the Iraqi conflict shifted the role of sniping from two man teams stalking a target in an open field (traditional sniping) to marksmanship support roles in an urban area (closer to SWAT sniping). When our troops deploy for actual sniping missions, they take out the M2010, Mk21 PSR, and Mk13 Mod7 as the primary workhorses.
I was having a conversation with an author that used to work as a sniper for SF and rangers about weapons systems and he said that hands down he loved the SR25 and thought the M110 was trash.....
It's almost perfect, one thing if I may, the forward assist isn't for jamming a round into the chamber. It's more for loading or cycling in silence. Spoken by someone who knows from experience. The specialists who used these would have known better. Stoner was a genius. He just never had to load or chamer check his designs danger close.
That is a urban legend. You cannot load silent with a forward assist. Especially with the amount of force needed to get the extractor to snap over the rim of the cartridge case.
@@SmallArmsSolutions I hate to argue with one of my hero's, but loading with the forward assist is substantially quieter. I haven't had to do it often, but the necessity to chamber in silence has arisen. Not being allowed to load my rifle until ready to shoot for instance. The unfortunate result of following posted rules, and have had to silently chamber a round with many deer not only present but very close. If it weren't for the forward assist, getting the rifle into battery would have been impossible. I am afraid there is no denying experience on this one. The forward assist has a place on my AR. Maybe do a video on it and show a better way without the forward assist.
Your lectures is a very good lesson to learn update knowledge in the new weapons. I love to own a BN36-semi-auto 30-06, 40 rd. What model is the 2nd color green comufla next from you? It’s very beautiful rifle. Thanks for telling us. Thank you again, Mr. Daniels Porter.
Also great video's very informative and you have sold me on spending the extra money for an LMT CQB 5.56 nato, but I'm also interested in Christens Arm CA Five as a second, thus being the reason that I commented earlier on hoping to see a review of said AR from you!
Great video on the M110. Have you tried the Palmetto PA 10 gen 3? I was able to get one last month, November 2023 for 700 dollars. It shoots really well. Best group is 0.75 with 17 adjustable gas positions. Given that the Palmetto AR-10 is the most affordable, I think that it is going to become the most widespread. It will probably become the standard.
The suppressor for this rifle must be so quiet. I only ever saw the scar h in use overseas, never got to see this with the giant can that goes with it in use.
Found a knights armament m110 carbine at a gun shop really liked the gun talked with the owner about buying it what’s the price range on it I don’t what to get Fuck on price
Yes. The M110 (made by KAC) is going to be replaced by the M110A1 (collaboration between HK and Geissele) for both the Army and Marines. Navy is getting the SCAR's version, and Chair Force never had the M110.
The bit about zero shift when removing and reinstalling the KAC Suppressor was contrary to what I had read. Supposedly it was so bad that the guys in theater had to leave them on because it took multiple rounds through the gun to get it to group, and only then could you really figure out what your zero was. They also didn’t like it because of its length. And they didn’t want to patrol with it on since that made the guy carrying it a priority target. And it was unwieldy. When you pull a suppressor off, remount it and shoot it they all shift a little bit. But the KAC was allegedly really bad.
@@stevewilson7819 The zero shift has been proven minimal time and time again. It is tested at the factory and meets the Army's requirement for shift. the suppressor adds about 6 inches to the 20 inch barrel, which for the amount of sound suppression you get is pretty small. Knight's delivered EXACTLY what the Army asked for. So as for false, i would say about 90% of what you heard and repeated.
Ash Hess I assume from your reply that you’ve source is KAC based? I wonder how much of what I’ve heard was operator induced then? Thanks for your reply.
steve wilson No operator would admit any error that is operator induced, lmao. Bias and lack of knowledge is why I treat anecdotes on guns with a very large grain of salt unless they can be backed with information that has been verified to be factual.
I know this is an old post, but I had a discussion way before this video with an AF reserve guy who supposedly had some "sniper" experience. He was complaining the SR25 was not reliable. I built a .308 off of the LR308 platform, due to the fact, I used a used parts that I bought from Ebay (when they still sold parts like that)and adjustable gas system, the worst I got from it was failures to eject, which I fixed with some tuning. With my kitchen gunsmith engineering, I'm able to make my 308 work for what I wanted it. I can't imagine Stoner with more resources and personnel couldn't make the SR25 work. Do you have any idea what this guy was talking about with the SR25? I feel that a few failures with SASS is outweighed by the fact its faster than a manual action, even then, sounds easy to fix.
lars kuno andersen two different platforms. Two different used. If you were engaging a target at extreme distances where multiple targets are not engaging you, you are right. But if every is up much closer and you are in more danger of accurate return fire, the M110 would be a better choice. It really goes to show no one platform does everything. You need to know your mission a what is the best tool for that.
Hey Chris, did you see Estonia adopted LMT 5.56 and 7.62 rifles to replace the Galil and AK4? Do you know why they chose the external piston 5.56 rifle over the DI?
I always thought the sr-25 and the m110 mod 0 were the sexiest guns in the United States military. I got a couple Airsoft versions that were absolutely stunning. I'm sure someday I will be able to afford to buy a real version. They are not cheap.
Out of all the AR -10 out there in your opinion if you was going to buy one what is the best one for the money and the name Iam looking at LMT KNIGHT AND WILSON COMBAT What about Armalite
@@reddrascal0124 Europeans seem to just make better weapons these days. FN makes our M4 rifles now along with the squad automatic weapons and medium machine guns.
@@reddrascal0124 why would they need to do that? USA does a pretty good job of handing their weapons over to terrorist already. Russia and China have no interest in using foreign made weapons over their government produced ones, along with different ammo standards
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree on your Browning vs Stoner comparison. Browning designed countless firearms, many of which saw long and distinguished careers as military weapons and the ma deuce, 1911, Hi Power and others are still fielded in many conflicts around the globe. Stoner was brilliant and far ahead of his contemporaries, but John Moses Browning’s entire history greatly overshadows Eugene’s two weapons systems. I say that with the utmost respect for the work of Stoner and his immense contributions to small arms development.
I would disagree. None of Brownings systems ever achieved the popularity of the Stoner systems. Look at the number of M16’s in military, LE and commercial service against the numbers of all other Browning weapons of the US? Not close. Commercial success! The AR15 has achieved more success commercially than the M1911. This is my opinion dude. The AR15/AR10 continues to gain popularity after 60 years, not loose like most all the Browning guns. His M2 is all that still sees service. Again, my opinion, i respect yours as well. I guess there is no definitive answer its on what your perspective and criteria for comparison is.
I read Chris Kyle's book carefully. He did discuss his weapons. He said he hated the KAC 308's because they jammed. Did they have problems like that when it was first introduced? I don't know how early on the models were that Chris Kyle used. But he made a point of saying that he almost never used it because it was always jamming. I don't recall if he specified the type of ammo malfunction.
Ours were utter shit. Great when they worked, but too unreliable for me to trust them. I always took an extra couple of pistol magazines just in case. That being said, there is a difference between commercial variants and military contract guns: maintenance. Our armory didn't do a good job of keeping the guns up to par, and they often replaced parts with non-OEM garbage.
@@johngalt234 Lucky for me that I am an armorer. I build and maintain most of my guns. The few that I do not build, I strip down in to tiny parts and carefully fit, polish, bed, Loctite and rebuild them. Better than factory. Always.
John Galt ...so you’ve answered why the guns you have kept failing on you, lol. Take any gun and put it through a “maintenance” schedule like that and any gun will be shit. I tell you, you can take any rifle of the month, no matter how good and I guarantee you that troops will complain about it with that kind of maintenance.
Browning invented entire categories by himself. Stoner was the head of a design team that copied parts from other guns. He's just as much of a myth as Kalashnikov.
@@johngalt234: AR10 was a Dutch rifle, Armelite to buy the patent, the incompetent Stoner is never able to make it controllable, he transformed this rifle into 5.56 with exactly the same platform as the Dutch rifle, Stoner has an overrated reputation, at the beginning the M16 was a shit, at the request of the US government FN modified the M16 to make it correct and reliable, FN engineers did not believe their eyes to see a 5.56 in an assault rifle, FN built M16 and M4 for two decades FN is way better than Colt
@@hansstrouf Two things: *_First._* You can't blame Stoner for the M16's growing pains. He stopped being involved in the project in 1959 when Armalite sold the design rights of both the AR10 and AR15 to Colt. The only military testing the AR15 had while Stoner was involved recommended that the Army more seriously consider looking at the AR15 as a replacement for the less reliable, more costly, and just as deadly M14. The only reason the Army didn't do so is because its Chief of Staff didn't want to have one caliber for general issue rifles and one for machine guns. He thought it would create a logistical nightmare. (This rejection is what led Armalite to sell the "unprofitable" designs to Colt.) What the Army with the M16 did in the 1960s is squarely the Army's fault. The Secretary of Defense took care of that issue in 1968. www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1959-Rifle-Squad-Armed-with-a-Light-Weight-High-Velocity-Rifle.pdf *_Second._* The AR10 and AR15 aren't Stoner's only designs, but you talk like they are. He was central to the AR3, AR5, AR7, AR9, AR10, AR11, AR12, AR15, AR16, AR18, AR180, Stoner 63, Ares LMG, Ares FMG, KAC LMG, SR25, SR15, and others. (Many external piston rifles-including the Sig MCX/MPX-borrow from the AR18.) Stoner definitely deserves a place in the Pantheon of gun designers. I merely question how high of a pedestal he deserves. He was the head of a design team, not the sole engineer. Chris Bartocci's comment that "John Browning has nothing on Gene Stoner" is absurd. Browning created his ideas from scratch. The tilt-locking barrel? All his and used in 99% of all pistol designs today. The M2 50BMG machine gun? Still kicking after 100 years and not project to leave service for at least another 50 years. The M1911? Worked well for 75 years as the primary sidearm of the US military, and it is still preferred by competition shooters for both speed and accuracy. The Browning Automatic Rifle? It created a whole category known as the squad automatic rifle that we still use today. The Browning A5? World's first semiautomatic shotgun. And I haven't even talked about the seven calibers he created or the twelve other handguns he designed or the four machine guns he made that are't used anymore or his work with pump/lever action rifles/shotguns.
@@johngalt234 >imagine downplaying the ingenuity of Stoner's gas system with autistic over-reduction and how Stoner could come up with a new system that combines the best aspects of external piston and direct impingement designs while using proven technologies thus ensuring his design is actually reliable John Browning's contributions shouldn't be ignored though, he made significant contributions in practically all class of firearms
@@RDCM1008 I wouldn't want to put that pressure on the barrel though...Can't imagine all that effort put into making an accurate rifle, then attaching much to that little pic rail.
I understand that was the reason you see the 308 caliber AR platforms using bolts with 2 ejectors. They weren’t able to get the empty case to consistently clear the ejection port with the single ejector. We have a LMT 308 MWS with the 2 ejectors. Had zeros malfunctions. It uses Pmags, and the Surefire SOCOM 762 RC Suppressor. I had heard that there were 2 common problems with the M110. Feeding issues, and ejection issues. And the suppressor was to long, to heavy, and had massive zero shifts when removed and reinstalled.
On the Noveske Gen 3 N6 Switchblock Leonidas rifles do you recommend switching the BCG to a LMT Full Auto Enhanced or is it not necessary since you have the switchblock (running suppressed)?
What is in your opinion is the best style of ar10? I have a dpms style. With a high shelf just due to aero precision. But my next build I’m wanting a different style will armalite and knights parts interchange ?
Not if you use the ejection port cover as intended. When we taught coaches school we trained Marines to close the ejection port cover every time you stopped firing. Obviously in close contact during a prolonged gunfight you won’t have time to. But we taught it so they would develop muscle memory.
M118 or M118Special Ball used the 173 grain FMJ bullet with a boat tail. It was used previously on the M118 National Match round. The M118NM round was made with match grade brass. That round was discontinued in the early 1980’s. It was made by Lake City. The M852 National Match round using the Sierra 168 Matchking bullet replaced the M118 NM Round. M118SPECIAL BALL used standard brass with standard primers in them. And it shot amazingly average. We only used it because we had to. The M118Long Range round was made with Sierra Matchking 175 grain OTM bullets. That was to fill a Marine Corps requirement in the early 1990’s.
great overview of the rifle. The M110s I used in the military were accurate for sure. Ours were a little less reliable than the SCAR Hs though but it's a small sample size. I'd feel confident saying both are more accurate and reliable than the M14s though.
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How would you say the accuracy of the scar is compared to the m110?
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With Fed 308 GMM 168 you can get between 1 and 1.5 MOA. Which is not bad for a battle rifle with a 16 inch, chrome lined lightweight barrel.
It’s also a whole lot lighter. 600 yards is about it’s max effective range on a man sized target with match ammo, and a good scope. Muzzle velocity with old style Fed 168 will be around 2600. The new production stuff is about 100 FPS slower.
Indeed, MrGNG
Is it true that the Mk20 SCAR SSR has somewhat replaced the M-110 in the Spec Ops world?
It seems to be, based on this channel, 5 basic modes of thought when it comes to how the military chooses firearms among other things: 1. Tradition especially if it can be linked to WW2 2. What’s cheapest 3. Whatever Congress tells them to keep jobs in their districts 4. Eh just break out the old stuff we got in storage 5. And rarest of all, what actually meets the needs of the troops in the field
Congratulations. You are now qualified to be an acquisitions manager for the D.O.D.
As someone who works in military acquisitions i havent seen 1) much, but the rest are spot on. Unfortunately there is so much politics and penny pinching involved that the best possible product rarely makes it to the field.
Well when everything on the market is just some variation of an AR you can pretty much just throw darts at a board because no matter what you will have an AR or an AR.
Very interesting, I sure appreciate the history lesons,
The SR-25, the best bolt action rifle I ever owned; to quote a sniper school instructor. He bought his in 1995. He finally gave up and sold it. You have to wonder if the issue he was having has do to the plastic guide rod that was used in place of a buffer system that the M110 uses?
The barrels Remington supplied Knight were blanks for the Army M24 SWS. That was after Remington started producing their own barrels for the M24. The first 200 M24’s were made with cut rifled barrels made by Mike Rock. Those first guns were later rebarreled with new production Remington barrels. I fired M24, Initial Production Test Rifle #2 when I was stationed at the Rock Island Arsenal in the late 1980’s. Rifle #1 was in the John Browning Museum at the RIA. The informationabout the barrels came from Mike Rock when I met him in the mid 90’s. That was when he was producing barrels for the Armalite AR-10T.
The Marine Corp M40A1’s used Atkinson, Hart, and later mainly Scheinder barrels which were all 24 inch 1X12 twist. The M24 SWS used 26 inch, 1-11.25 twist barrels with 5R rifling.
I owned a Knights Armament SR 25 which I purchased in Helena ,Mt. in 1996. I later picked up a Springfield M1A Loaded. I also had a DS Arms . Those are all gone now but I have a Smith and Wesson Optic Ready carbine now. I put a A2 stock on it and will test it using the lead weight in the stock compartment. I think it will shoot groups good enough for an old blind guy.
The AR platform really is that “universal rifle” that every military has been looking for forever. M4s for close range/urban combat, M16s for urban/suburban/medium range combat, M110s for medium to long ranges. Full auto M16s or M110s with drums could be SAWs.
It really is the Carbine, Rifle, DMR, and SAW all in one platform
Same goes for the Akm system.. There's short barrel sub machine guns and long/short carbines, as well as light machine guns/saw in the RPK.. The Romanians even made a DMR version with the PSL in 762x54r.. I wouldn't count the Dragunov as it's a completely different operating system being short-stroke piston vs a standard AK long-stroke system (which the PSL has a long stroke). There are even pistol caliber shooting versions of aks like with the ar15.. Albeit the ar15/ar10 is more suitable for accuracy for dmr's.
That would be the stoner 64
Great video... love the history in this one. Wishing your channel grows ten times larger than your old one
No. *Eleven.*
Nah, TH-cam will just delete his channel again.
I would love to see you compare the M110 and the new M110A1. Curious about weight and other factors that made them want to switch.
*hk made a better version of the csass
I was right with you up to the "John Browning's got nothing on Gene Stoner". Might want to re-think that. JUST the M2 ALONE is reason enough! Browning designed it before Stoner was born....still in use today I do believe. The issue with making "upgrades" to a system that already does the job is usually MONEY. Of course Knights wants to make upgrades to a rifle that has an existing contract....that's REVENUE! Let's not pretend Knights is this altruistic company that recommends these things ONLY out of a desire to improve the weapon. That said, nice vid and love the M110!
"John Browning has nothing on Eugene Stoner"..
-Talk about controversial lol
Saw this on 9-Hole Reviews, knew it was coming soon. Nicely done as always.
Saying John Browning has nothing on Eugene Stoner is like saying Archimedes has nothing on Wernher Von Braun.
I really enjoyed this video. Excellent information, and I enjoy the comments from the vets, even if i don't understand many of them. I bought my rifle more than 20 years ago for home defence and have enjoyed it immensely without a hiccup. It is a Bushmaster that came with a 10.5" barrel and I haven't changed anything on it, except that I added a light. The only thing I regret is not having bought two.
I used the hell out of this in the original SOCOM game. It's where I fell in love with an AR10 platform
Eugene Stoner is genius. Me favorite project is Stoner 62/63.
Very good presentation on E.Stoners work /creations !
Though , No one should ever say that about J.M.Browning, as I'm pretty sure E. Stoner would agree !
Cheers
Nice ,I prefer the Mark 23 navy ,I forget which mod :)
Great history and story behind these AR10 rifles! Thank you, for sharing!
Wow, that M110 is just gorgeous!
As always thank you for your in depth history behind this program. Cheers!
The ones we received and currently use in the marines are very hit or miss
I've gotten lucky and have had m110s issued to myself in multiple units that were very accurate and reliable. But have also seen just as many that wouldnt hold anything less than a 1.5 inch group at 100m. A lot have had cycling issues and trigger problems. Have also seen a good amount fire multiple rounds at once. Zero shifts and cold bore shots are usually nothing to write home about either. Across the board they couldnt hold a candle to the m40A5. Now with the A6 out it's a little more comparable accuracy wise, for some reason the m40a6's aren't overall as accurate as the A5s were (at least from my experiences) and with the inception of the MK13 the M40A6 is damn near obsolete 3 years after its initial fielding outside of training and certain urban environments where a short suppressed bolt gun is still appreciated, can someone say XM3. Anything 800m and in is definitely realistic for the m110. I have an appreciation for the good ones out there but the lack of QC we've experienced leads me to favor my bolt gun still. Some design features a lot of us were never fond of is mostly the suppressor mounting system and the ambi controls (tends to snag on gear and eject magazines) I'd never trade my bolt gun for the m110. But as a sniper support weapon/rapid engagement precision rifle it definitely meets the need but is quickly becoming outclassed in 2019 which is expected. There's some snipers not particularly fond of the m110 being there's still bad guys alive because the gun failed at the worst possible time, not my experience but another man's. I've yet to see a gas gun of any kind (KAC, Larue, JP, etc) outperform a well built bolt action rifle dedicated for precision shooting in accuracy or consistency of accuracy.
The British army didn't really use SLRs in the Gulf war because of the failure of the SA80 or anything, it just hadn't actually been fully adopted yet. The SA80 was only fully officially adopted in 1994. If you think using SLRs in the Gulf war is bad, my dad carried a Bren gun.
If you think carrying a Bren gun is bad, there were guys still carrying Grease Guns - and still driving M60A3s
@@Laotzu.Goldbug Yeah, my dad met some of those guys. It was the USMC, right?
@@muwuny you know, I actually think that it was Big Army. 1 AD if I'm not mistaken. To my knowledge, the USMC wasn't issuing SMGs to armored crews at the time
@@Laotzu.Goldbug Ah
The active duty Marine tankers went into theater with M60A1’s. The M3A1 SMG’s were not part of the SL-3 gear for that tank. They had M16A2’s and M9’s. The Marine Corps never got the high tech M60A3. Delta Company 4th Tank Bn which was a Reserve Unit had transitioned to the M1A1 before deploying. They were loaned Army M1A1’s when they arrived in Saudi. The active duty side got the M1A1 tanks after they got back. That came from a team mate on the USMCR Rifle Team. He served with 1st Tank Bn during Desert Storm. When they crossed the Line of Departure they were in M60A1 RISE / PASSIVE Tanks. That tank used an optical range finder, and had passive night vision, and appliqué armor. The Saudi armored units had newer and more capable M60A3’s. He mentioned that they ran across one sitting along side the MSR. Being good Marines they promptly cut the lock on the turret hatch, and proceeded to rat fuck it for anything useful!
The British forces that deployed during Desert Storm had the L85, and LSW. The SAS units used M16A1’s. There may have been some British Units with L1A1’s. I know the Royal Marines that attended the Marine Corps Eastern Division Matches at Camp Lejeune in the spring of 1990 used L85’s. And they were a piece of crap then. They couldn’t even shoot US M855 ammo because it was to hot for the receiver. They had to ship over their own issued ammo for the Matches. They were still using Browning 9MM Highpower pistols at that time. Those were pretty decent.
Any opportunity to crap on the M14 platform...LOL
Great video!
M14 is crap for anything besides Color Guard...😉
@@aaronorr5586 That's totally untrue.
Andrew Tolbert What else is it good for?
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 I guess the M14 can be okay for 21 gun salutes at funerals, granted blanks for the M16 are just as accessible so it comes down to whichever looks better.
@@at6062 it's a trash rifle
I miss my m110. Thing was great. I, personally, despised the scope I had on it. Cant even remember what it was anymore...... just remember the crosshairs didnt intersect. Worked for some, but I couldn't do what I wanted with it. Felt I never got to put the rifle through its paces. Still an outstanding rifle to shoot.
17B's were issued M110's? Interesting. The 3.5-10x Mark 4 on the M110 uses the TMR, which is FAR superior to the standard mil-dot like the one in the M3A we used on our M24's as each element of the reticle is much finer allowing for better range estimation, etc.
BTW, the two M110's we had in my section when we deployed to 🇦🇫 in 2008 we serial numbers 36 and 42.
I know this is a old ass comment but I just wanted to stop by and call bullshit. Why in the flying fuck would a 17B get issued a m110 lol? What are you going to engage with it, your computer screen? 17Bs are totally one of the MOSs that get issued the old school m16s longer than a musket you see POGs lug around some kush FOB, or BAF/KAF lol
The emotional roller coaster of waiting for a new video. The US should have adopted the l129a1 IMO.
Great history lesson and review. Well done as usual. Small Arms Solutions is one of my favourite channels. Thanks...
Another very good presentation with the critical background information.
From the information you have supplied and consistent with what vets have experienced in the field, the folks in the 5-sided building do not want to be winners.
Every generation of soldiers train hard but they are not given the best tools of the trade. Combat produces many Lessons Learned, and it reasonably follows that weapons' performance can be greatly improved. But the logistic folk resist change and some manuals may have to be amended. Change is the only constant in life. However in the 5-sided building it seems that politics and kick-backs are to order of the day.
My SF Commando unit used the M110 in the DMR role and the .338 Lapua & .50 HMG for the more intimate applications. The M110 is popular in the overwatch role during a compound clearance because the assault team can instigate multiple insurgent responses inside the compound that a semi auto rifle is best suited for. I do like the bolt release, makes for slick drills; certainly better than the bolt-on BAD. Thanks again for your valuable contribution, Greg
Very indepth and great review and history of Stoners Rifle , I agree hes up there with Browning for ingenuity and longevity of a great design multi role weapon system .
This rifle was the inspiration for me to build the rifle in my safe that gets shot the most. I wanted to build a clone correct rifle but that would have been more money that should spend on a hobby. The rifle I did build is very accurate and loads of fun.
Thank you for the VERY informative primer on one of my favorite military rifles.
i meet one guy in my days who preferred the m21 over a m110 or sr-25 and he was former military and a active contractor marksman and he just has alot of trigger time with the m21 and he will say i just like it more and shoot it better that is a grand total of one hardly a large sample size
I had to have a lie down with a cold compress on my head after seeing the photo of the AR-10 they chopped up for beta testing.
At my old police department we were allowed to buy our own rifles. So a bought an HK PSG-1. My old school (Remington 700P) Sgt was not happy. He couldn't complain after our first day at the range.
No you didn't
You should do a video on the history and adoption of the 1913 picatinny rail
You will not find it, because sadly the gun gurus give no respect to A.R.M.S. When is the last time anyone did a video on his products and the quality and price.
He did go over that in the M4 videos
I did!
@@SmallArmsSolutions thank you!
Great video - thanks Mr. B!
I want one of these sooooo bad!!!
I love the new table. I used to hate the black guns and black table. You need fde or od green rifles for the black table.
The info on the M118 is a bit off. The M118 round started its life as the M118 National Match. It was made by Lake City AAP. It used the 173gr FMJ BT projectile and was packed in white boxes with red and blue lettering with the word Match on the side. The case head was marked Match. It was intended to be used in NM 14’s for competition. The projectile was carried over from the .30 caliber M72 National Match round. It’s performance left something to be desired by competitive shooters. The projectiles performance was inferior to Sierras MK BTHP’s. Production of that stopped in the early 80’s.
It was replaced by the M852 National Match cartridge. That used the Sierra 168 MK bullet. It was packed in brown boxes. The case head was marked Match, and it had a knurled ring around the case about 1/4 inch up from the base. It’s primary use was Competitive shooting. In the early 1990’s JAG lawyers reversed their ruling on this round and said we could shoot enemy combatants with it. But it’s effective range through M40A1, or M24 SWS was still about 800yards. Could you kill people beyond that range with it? Yeah. But it wasn’t a 1 shot, 1 kill situation. It was more like small caliber indirect fire. The spotter was your F.O. He help adjust your fire on to the target. At 1000 yard your rounds were moving around trans sonic speed depending on conditions. At 1000 yards the holes in the target were elliptical because it’s trajectory was that high.
M118 Special Ball became the standard issue round for snipers. Since lawyers in the 80’s said it was illegal to shoot enemy combatant’s with hollow point projectiles. That changed in the early 90’s. Special Ball used standard Lake City brass and the ubiquitous 173gr FMJ BT projectile. And it still shot like crap.
Marine Scout Snipers wanted something with better long range performance than the M852 Match round. That resulted in the M118 Long Range round being produced. It’s case head had L R along with LC and the year on manufacture stamped on it. It used the Sierra 175gr MK projectile.
I can machine down a Geislse and press in a SMALL tungsten weight to bring the balance back to the trigger. GREAT PRODUCTION AS ALWAYS! I can still do amazing stuff with a full control Mauser style bolt rifle chambered in .300 Win Mag or .338 Lapua. Even my Belgian .30-06 Browning Safari Mauser action rifle is a very respectable rifle out past 600 yards. With the loads my father put in .30-06 800 yards + EASY. The M14 was an awful rifle, unless you are fighting a war in the 1930s.
My buddy uses one of these as a hunting rig. Sweet sweet set up.
I disagree. This weapon didn't change many operators' opinions of whether or not semiautomatic rifles were a better fit for snipers than bolt action rifles. The nature of the Iraqi conflict shifted the role of sniping from two man teams stalking a target in an open field (traditional sniping) to marksmanship support roles in an urban area (closer to SWAT sniping). When our troops deploy for actual sniping missions, they take out the M2010, Mk21 PSR, and Mk13 Mod7 as the primary workhorses.
I was having a conversation with an author that used to work as a sniper for SF and rangers about weapons systems and he said that hands down he loved the SR25 and thought the M110 was trash.....
He isn't the only one. Mine jammed on me constantly.
It's almost perfect, one thing if I may, the forward assist isn't for jamming a round into the chamber. It's more for loading or cycling in silence. Spoken by someone who knows from experience. The specialists who used these would have known better. Stoner was a genius. He just never had to load or chamer check his designs danger close.
That is a urban legend. You cannot load silent with a forward assist. Especially with the amount of force needed to get the extractor to snap over the rim of the cartridge case.
@@SmallArmsSolutions I hate to argue with one of my hero's, but loading with the forward assist is substantially quieter. I haven't had to do it often, but the necessity to chamber in silence has arisen. Not being allowed to load my rifle until ready to shoot for instance. The unfortunate result of following posted rules, and have had to silently chamber a round with many deer not only present but very close. If it weren't for the forward assist, getting the rifle into battery would have been impossible. I am afraid there is no denying experience on this one. The forward assist has a place on my AR. Maybe do a video on it and show a better way without the forward assist.
I want an M110 or at least an SR25. But they're expensive!
Your lectures is a very good lesson to learn update knowledge in the new weapons. I love to own a BN36-semi-auto 30-06, 40 rd.
What model is the 2nd color green comufla next from you? It’s very beautiful rifle.
Thanks for telling us.
Thank you again, Mr. Daniels Porter.
My dream rifle! Maybe someday!
Lol "didn't care, was gunna have one" love it lol
Also great video's very informative and you have sold me on spending the extra money for an LMT CQB 5.56 nato, but I'm also interested in Christens Arm CA Five as a second, thus being the reason that I commented earlier on hoping to see a review of said AR from you!
The M110 is decent, but heavy.
For how we use them, I would prefer we went to the M110k with the collapsible stock and 16" barrel
Do you even saw bro
Would really appreciate for u Chris to make a vid on the (M39emr) and or the (Mk14ebr) explain the differences ?
Great video on the M110.
Have you tried the Palmetto PA 10 gen 3? I was able to get one last month, November 2023 for 700 dollars. It shoots really well. Best group is 0.75 with 17 adjustable gas positions.
Given that the Palmetto AR-10 is the most affordable, I think that it is going to become the most widespread. It will probably become the standard.
I would like to, no luck getting one to review
Great video ! When will you do a video on the Colt IAR or the FN HAMR IAR and maybe the history of the IAR program and why they chos ethe HK IAR ?
Yes please
Thank-you for the work. Excellent video.
I bought an M-15 lower from armalite they use a trigger similar to this one still.
The suppressor for this rifle must be so quiet. I only ever saw the scar h in use overseas, never got to see this with the giant can that goes with it in use.
Why chrome bolt carriers are so hard to find now. I mean high end ones like JP, CMT,? LaRue doesn’t sell theirs separate from a full rifle.
You can buy JP and LMT separate
Would consider doing a review on a Christen's Arm CAFive AR1-15 in 223 wylde
Man I would love some time behind a M110
Found a knights armament m110 carbine at a gun shop really liked the gun talked with the owner about buying it what’s the price range on it I don’t what to get Fuck on price
This rifle is amazing but the price-per-unit is insane.
No expense was spared.
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Outstanding presentation!!!
Is the new HK rifle going to replace all M110s?
Yes. The M110 (made by KAC) is going to be replaced by the M110A1 (collaboration between HK and Geissele) for both the Army and Marines. Navy is getting the SCAR's version, and Chair Force never had the M110.
The bit about zero shift when removing and reinstalling the KAC Suppressor was contrary to what I had read. Supposedly it was so bad that the guys in theater had to leave them on because it took multiple rounds through the gun to get it to group, and only then could you really figure out what your zero was. They also didn’t like it because of its length. And they didn’t want to patrol with it on since that made the guy carrying it a priority target. And it was unwieldy. When you pull a suppressor off, remount it and shoot it they all shift a little bit. But the KAC was allegedly really bad.
False.
False what?
@@stevewilson7819 The zero shift has been proven minimal time and time again. It is tested at the factory and meets the Army's requirement for shift. the suppressor adds about 6 inches to the 20 inch barrel, which for the amount of sound suppression you get is pretty small. Knight's delivered EXACTLY what the Army asked for. So as for false, i would say about 90% of what you heard and repeated.
Ash Hess I assume from your reply that you’ve source is KAC based? I wonder how much of what I’ve heard was operator induced then? Thanks for your reply.
steve wilson No operator would admit any error that is operator induced, lmao.
Bias and lack of knowledge is why I treat anecdotes on guns with a very large grain of salt unless they can be backed with information that has been verified to be factual.
I know this is an old post, but I had a discussion way before this video with an AF reserve guy who supposedly had some "sniper" experience. He was complaining the SR25 was not reliable. I built a .308 off of the LR308 platform, due to the fact, I used a used parts that I bought from Ebay (when they still sold parts like that)and adjustable gas system, the worst I got from it was failures to eject, which I fixed with some tuning. With my kitchen gunsmith engineering, I'm able to make my 308 work for what I wanted it. I can't imagine Stoner with more resources and personnel couldn't make the SR25 work. Do you have any idea what this guy was talking about with the SR25? I feel that a few failures with SASS is outweighed by the fact its faster than a manual action, even then, sounds easy to fix.
Do you think NATO will adopt the new 6.8x51 cartridge?
i must admit that i would use a bolt action in .338 Lapua
lars kuno andersen two different platforms. Two different used. If you were engaging a target at extreme distances where multiple targets are not engaging you, you are right. But if every is up much closer and you are in more danger of accurate return fire, the M110 would be a better choice. It really goes to show no one platform does everything. You need to know your mission a what is the best tool for that.
Excellent video Sir 👏🏻 . Thank you ❤️
You keep dumping on my desire for a SA M1A. However, it seems to be that is a good thing. Thank you for being candid. Don't ever change.
I'd go with a different company. SA uses cast recievers
I’m not getting an M14/M1A of any variety.
some says the old SR-25 is much more accurate than the new SR-25.
Why didn't they use the MK 12 Suppressor system if that worked so well even if it's a bigger caliber?
Andrew Strong the M110 was all sold as a KAC Weapon System
Hey Chris, did you see Estonia adopted LMT 5.56 and 7.62 rifles to replace the Galil and AK4?
Do you know why they chose the external piston 5.56 rifle over the DI?
Shamir Roshni no I did not know. Thank you
Scobee Doe One reason is probably familiarity and trust in the piston system from erlier experience. Militaries are usually reluctant to change.
The hate for the M14 prgm is real.
I always thought the sr-25 and the m110 mod 0 were the sexiest guns in the United States military. I got a couple Airsoft versions that were absolutely stunning.
I'm sure someday I will be able to afford to buy a real version. They are not cheap.
This dude reminds me of gangis khan from Marco Polo
Hope you get to talk about the other great semi auto marksman rifles like the PSG-1/MSG-90 and SVD.
tengu190 those are difficult to get ahold of
A very fine rifle.
Out of all the AR -10 out there in your opinion if you was going to buy one what is the best one for the money and the name Iam looking at LMT KNIGHT AND WILSON COMBAT What about Armalite
Excellent video
The H&K G28 is replacing the M110 because of reliability problems that was not addressed in this video.
Army and Marines are getting the G28, Navy is getting the Mk20 SSR standardized
Shouldn't they have gone for an American design rather than relying on foreign tech ?
@@reddrascal0124 Europeans seem to just make better weapons these days. FN makes our M4 rifles now along with the squad automatic weapons and medium machine guns.
@@bigvaxmeanie925 that's fine until Europeans decide to also sell those designs to country's we're not friendly with .
@@reddrascal0124 why would they need to do that? USA does a pretty good job of handing their weapons over to terrorist already.
Russia and China have no interest in using foreign made weapons over their government produced ones, along with different ammo standards
SAS is the best!
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree on your Browning vs Stoner comparison. Browning designed countless firearms, many of which saw long and distinguished careers as military weapons and the ma deuce, 1911, Hi Power and others are still fielded in many conflicts around the globe. Stoner was brilliant and far ahead of his contemporaries, but John Moses Browning’s entire history greatly overshadows Eugene’s two weapons systems. I say that with the utmost respect for the work of Stoner and his immense contributions to small arms development.
I would disagree. None of Brownings systems ever achieved the popularity of the Stoner systems. Look at the number of M16’s in military, LE and commercial service against the numbers of all other Browning weapons of the US? Not close. Commercial success! The AR15 has achieved more success commercially than the M1911. This is my opinion dude. The AR15/AR10 continues to gain popularity after 60 years, not loose like most all the Browning guns. His M2 is all that still sees service. Again, my opinion, i respect yours as well. I guess there is no definitive answer its on what your perspective and criteria for comparison is.
We’re the babies of soldiers in the Vietnam War came here to be alive.
We’re rifles lover anyway.
What scope do you have on the m110 and where the hell can I buy it
Bucket list gun
Can anyone confirm that the SR25 upper accepts DPMS barrel extensions?
Fantastic! Thank you!
After seeing the 9-Hole video, I pounced on this one. Thanks!
I read Chris Kyle's book carefully. He did discuss his weapons. He said he hated the KAC 308's because they jammed.
Did they have problems like that when it was first introduced?
I don't know how early on the models were that Chris Kyle used. But he made a point of saying that he almost never used it because it was always jamming. I don't recall if he specified the type of ammo malfunction.
Ours were utter shit. Great when they worked, but too unreliable for me to trust them. I always took an extra couple of pistol magazines just in case. That being said, there is a difference between commercial variants and military contract guns: maintenance. Our armory didn't do a good job of keeping the guns up to par, and they often replaced parts with non-OEM garbage.
@@johngalt234
Lucky for me that I am an armorer. I build and maintain most of my guns. The few that I do not build, I strip down in to tiny parts and carefully fit, polish, bed, Loctite and rebuild them. Better than factory. Always.
John Galt ...so you’ve answered why the guns you have kept failing on you, lol.
Take any gun and put it through a “maintenance” schedule like that and any gun will be shit. I tell you, you can take any rifle of the month, no matter how good and I guarantee you that troops will complain about it with that kind of maintenance.
Impressive.. what would this original SR-25 from the 90s be worth by now?
Not sure, I have a first run 1995 one
About 5000-7000 facotry configuration in today's market
Browning has nothing on Stoner??? Millions of firearms enthusiasts just had a heart attack! Lol jk. Thanks for the videos.
Browning invented entire categories by himself. Stoner was the head of a design team that copied parts from other guns. He's just as much of a myth as Kalashnikov.
@@johngalt234: AR10 was a Dutch rifle, Armelite to buy the patent, the incompetent Stoner is never able to make it controllable, he transformed this rifle into 5.56 with exactly the same platform as the Dutch rifle, Stoner has an overrated reputation, at the beginning the M16 was a shit, at the request of the US government FN modified the M16 to make it correct and reliable, FN engineers did not believe their eyes to see a 5.56 in an assault rifle, FN built M16 and M4 for two decades FN is way better than Colt
@@hansstrouf Two things:
*_First._* You can't blame Stoner for the M16's growing pains. He stopped being involved in the project in 1959 when Armalite sold the design rights of both the AR10 and AR15 to Colt. The only military testing the AR15 had while Stoner was involved recommended that the Army more seriously consider looking at the AR15 as a replacement for the less reliable, more costly, and just as deadly M14. The only reason the Army didn't do so is because its Chief of Staff didn't want to have one caliber for general issue rifles and one for machine guns. He thought it would create a logistical nightmare. (This rejection is what led Armalite to sell the "unprofitable" designs to Colt.) What the Army with the M16 did in the 1960s is squarely the Army's fault. The Secretary of Defense took care of that issue in 1968. www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1959-Rifle-Squad-Armed-with-a-Light-Weight-High-Velocity-Rifle.pdf
*_Second._* The AR10 and AR15 aren't Stoner's only designs, but you talk like they are. He was central to the AR3, AR5, AR7, AR9, AR10, AR11, AR12, AR15, AR16, AR18, AR180, Stoner 63, Ares LMG, Ares FMG, KAC LMG, SR25, SR15, and others. (Many external piston rifles-including the Sig MCX/MPX-borrow from the AR18.)
Stoner definitely deserves a place in the Pantheon of gun designers. I merely question how high of a pedestal he deserves. He was the head of a design team, not the sole engineer. Chris Bartocci's comment that "John Browning has nothing on Gene Stoner" is absurd. Browning created his ideas from scratch. The tilt-locking barrel? All his and used in 99% of all pistol designs today. The M2 50BMG machine gun? Still kicking after 100 years and not project to leave service for at least another 50 years. The M1911? Worked well for 75 years as the primary sidearm of the US military, and it is still preferred by competition shooters for both speed and accuracy. The Browning Automatic Rifle? It created a whole category known as the squad automatic rifle that we still use today. The Browning A5? World's first semiautomatic shotgun. And I haven't even talked about the seven calibers he created or the twelve other handguns he designed or the four machine guns he made that are't used anymore or his work with pump/lever action rifles/shotguns.
@@johngalt234 >imagine downplaying the ingenuity of Stoner's gas system with autistic over-reduction and how Stoner could come up with a new system that combines the best aspects of external piston and direct impingement designs while using proven technologies thus ensuring his design is actually reliable
John Browning's contributions shouldn't be ignored though, he made significant contributions in practically all class of firearms
@@dunadan7136 What did I say negative about Stoner? He WAS the head of a design team, not the sole designer/engineer.
Awesome channel!!
39:00 When SR25 attacks!
Great presentation Chris. What reason did Knight's put a pic rail under the gas block?
@@RDCM1008 I wouldn't want to put that pressure on the barrel though...Can't imagine all that effort put into making an accurate rifle, then attaching much to that little pic rail.
AMAZING!! Thank you.
Great video. Well done.
M110 SASS- SEMI AUTOMATIC STOVEPIPE SYSTEM.Sniper school made me hate this rifle.
Jay Hutsle You probably had the 1st gen bolt with an M16 extractor
I understand that was the reason you see the 308 caliber AR platforms using bolts with 2 ejectors. They weren’t able to get the empty case to consistently clear the ejection port with the single ejector. We have a LMT 308 MWS with the 2 ejectors. Had zeros malfunctions. It uses Pmags, and the Surefire SOCOM 762 RC Suppressor.
I had heard that there were 2 common problems with the M110. Feeding issues, and ejection issues. And the suppressor was to long, to heavy, and had massive zero shifts when removed and reinstalled.
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On the Noveske Gen 3 N6 Switchblock Leonidas rifles do you recommend switching the BCG to a LMT Full Auto Enhanced or is it not necessary since you have the switchblock (running suppressed)?
What is the LMT equivalent to this?
L129A1
KAC Knight's Armament Company M110 Limited Edition Deployment Kit
Knight's Armament Company
$25,900.00
But you can't deny that the m 14 is the longest serving rifle in different roles. Even is you think it sucks. It has slayed a lot of foes.
Luis Ortiz extremely limited numbers!
What is in your opinion is the best style of ar10? I have a dpms style. With a high shelf just due to aero precision. But my next build I’m wanting a different style will armalite and knights parts interchange ?
Wouldn't the sand groves just allow more debris into the rifle?
Celtic704 no sir, not in my opinion
Not if you use the ejection port cover as intended. When we taught coaches school we trained Marines to close the ejection port cover every time you stopped firing. Obviously in close contact during a prolonged gunfight you won’t have time to. But we taught it so they would develop muscle memory.
You got to do the Colt ACR
If I only could get access to one. If you are interested, I suggest you get a copy of America’s Rifle. I have a whole chapter on the ACR/Colt ACR
M2 still serving
M118 ammunition had a 173 grain projectile
M118 or M118Special Ball used the 173 grain FMJ bullet with a boat tail. It was used previously on the M118 National Match round. The M118NM round was made with match grade brass. That round was discontinued in the early 1980’s. It was made by Lake City. The M852 National Match round using the Sierra 168 Matchking bullet replaced the M118 NM Round.
M118SPECIAL BALL used standard brass with standard primers in them. And it shot amazingly average. We only used it because we had to.
The M118Long Range round was made with Sierra Matchking 175 grain OTM bullets. That was to fill a Marine Corps requirement in the early 1990’s.