Switched From Whipple To Procharger!!!
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The fact you are so diligent and have the attitude / awareness that something was wrong and you could but wouldn’t let it leave your shop (“couldn’t sleep at night”). Dude. That speaks volume about your shop/ business. I admire the hell out of that.
We need more of this across the board!
Fran stayed with it until the desired outcome was achieved!!! KUDO'S, love to see him on it like that!
Respectfully, Seth
I love the way you show the engine data in real time during the dyno runs. Fascinating to watch the boost and air/fuel ratio during the run. Brilliant!
Kudos to Fran for the weight loss. You look like a new human. Way to go!!
i honestly didn't know it was fran until he spoke. congratulations on living past 50
I noticed immediately! I was like, "wait, what?".. Congrats to him!! That's honestly hella cool and motivating!! 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Glad to see a shop/person with integrity! Get that belt right!
I loved watching you guys take the time to make it right and figure out the problems great job. That is what good service is all about.
I’m not even a big GM fan but the way you guys act with each other, the sarcasm, type of humor, etc. I’m a big fan of that bc it reminds me so much of my shop that I work at😂😂😂 I subscribed in a heartbeat after the pics of poor old boys car that got quintessentially chopped💀🥲
The attention to the boost drop off and not calling it a day for that car is the exact reason why I would ship my car to these guys over taking it to anyone local. Always respect the respect RPM has for their customers to not half ass anything.
$900 for complete powertrain removal and disassembly is quite the bargain.
Except they probably didn't do a good job😂
Congrats I was so excited to hear it start! Can’t wait to see the next one!
Great episode really enjoy how you detail it step-by-step
Awesome video guys! Alot of work for some big power. Love it🎉
Slow is steady, steady be fast.
Good eye Garrett. Thing is wicked, great job and build
Fran is my #1 choice Tuner on the web love his style
Those direct drive gen 4 whipples were terrible that's why they discounted them
Bill airing out my cars misfortune lol. damn it look a long time for it to make a video lol.
Cars fixed. it only took what 2 full ass years.
shoulda sent it to rpm when i had the chance.
Much love
Too bad you didn't have the $ to fix it first time around
Man...fran looks lean and mean. Im a fitness fanatic and i know the dedication that takes- great job Fran!
That was a difficult build. It’s a learning curve.
Great work 😎😎😎👍👍👍
You guy’s are amazing great work to all of you 😎👍🍺
Making it right. This is the way! Great job!
Erics a good dude . Like how he tries teaching the new kid . He knows his shit makes him a good guy to learn from
Been viewing for a while and I’d love to get a car built by y’all someday. Proper planning
Great work guys
That "HUUUUAAHH" caught me off guard. LMAO 💀
Damn Fran, looking good bro!
Dude with the laptop in car looks like he's gaining the weight back 😮
Fran! The weight loss looks fkn amazing on you, Braddah! Keep up the hard/amazing work on yourself first and these badass cars as well! Killin' it Brah! Much Aloha! 🤙🏽
I cld tell a bunch of crazy stories about customer cars. BTW the customer is very happy with his TT Camero you guys remote tuned for us(Frazz). I hope he takes your advice and get rid of the cats on that car. Procharger over Whipple is probably going to upser some people but I love it🎉
Seems like a "blow the tires off even from a 40 roll" kind of car. Wild. What does it do on a mustang or hub dyno SAE corrected and whatnot?
What was power curves like vs the Whipple
That v wagon that’s been in bunch of videos is a dream. Hope to see a video in it.
You will in a year or so....their stuff is always so far behind.
Well, at least you can say that you didn't have to turn the engine upside down to make it work. LOL
I wish there were more shop owners/mgrs who thought the same as you. I would not know how to act working for someone like that. I currently have a pretty good boss as well as a good owner rn but yeah.
I would trust my car with these guys without any worries and Im very particular.
I’m just in the middle of the video, but what about a boost leak? I dealt with my fair share of belt/tensioner issues on my Whipple car, but the pro charger has a ton of extra silicone couplers and intercooler as potential leak points
The aussie part might be the funniest thing I've heard on this channel 😂
Lmao my ass was giggling in the car like a Lil girl when I seen it
Nice showing at World Cup guys.
Hell yeah! I would love to take my ss to you guys for my next work (416 stroker, upgraded fuel system, high ram w/ ports, and F-1A...) but y'all are probably booked out a year +. 😢
Deff not booked out a year. Give us a call or email
Awesome 👍
Congrats on making it to the finals at world cup...👏😎👍
Wow Fran lost a lot of weight good for him !
What was the reason that the boost kept falling off?
That’s crazy
Congrats on making the finals at World Cup too i wanted u to win so bad lol
He just needed the 67 Camaro to make one mistake, leave a little late, hiccup, hit a damn bird or something and he would have won. Then again I'm pretty sure that was the furthest he has gone at World Cup so hopefully next year is his year.
Why's the intake air filter in the rear?
What intake is that?
More options and more potential out of a Procharger
True!
Damn son Fran looks like a teen again
Awesome vid guys!!
Where are these guy's located at??
The air filter and intake tuning heat soak for sure. Gale banks would have nothing to do with that and I’m sure that’s killing air density
Lol where u get the monster lemonade 🤣 4 pack from lol
I'm really curious about what failed in the whipple to add all that slop at the driven pulley.
The Whipple didn’t fail. I was unable to make the power I wanted , I guess Fran doesn’t like them.
It'll be the coupler inside the case. It's common on the old M90 and M112 Eaton as well.
@jamesmckinney495 your Camaro? What were you're final HP & TQ numbers from the Whipple setup?
@@jamesmckinney495nice car
What procharger is this I couldn’t tell in the video? F1-a or f1a-94
3:05 top right it says F1A-94. I had to rewatch to catch it lmao
13:55 at 3300 rpm can see the belt jump around
Don't think for a one second that all shops have RPMs level of dedication and persistence when it comes to getting you what you paid for.
I live in the area and I speak from experience.
Keep up the great work gentlemen.
I would think that a Whipple would make more torque under the curve vs the snail procharger. Wouldn't the Whipple feel faster?
I did forward to the dyno section. Probably missed something here.
I think the Whipple would be more fun for the street but maybe this guy wanted a more focused track car or goal to get to the 1,000 hp.
True in most cases. It would definitely FEEL faster with the Whip, compared to the ProCharger, due to the thicker TQ curve on a Whipple.
@@KeakaOfficialfacts. Prochargers just don't have low end. Ive been in several.
Love the video but for the mechanic to constantly talk down on the camera guy pisses me off.
Yea that guy seems like a tool
😮uuu... that hurts.
Seen how the sausage is some times made.
Fran what is your opinion on running a Wastegate on centrifugal blower setups. Been reading up on them but wanted to hear your opinion
My opinion is if it's a stick car that is down on tq and your willing to deal with more moving parts and potential failure points it has a place. If it's a 10 speed or a daily driver I wouldn't recommend it.. just my opinion from someone who was down on tq and a stick car and greatly considered it but still decided not to because of more failure points and it being my daily.. keep in mind one of the great things about centri blows in the linear power curve which is great for street traction adding that wastegate could potentially give u a aggressive power curve and blow the tires off (obviously this is tunable but if u have to tune most of that boost out to keep traction) WAS IT WORTH IT,? Just my 10c
Thank you for your opinion, yes it's a stick car
i ran a wastegate on my procharged z06. Loved it
@@timsmith3969 well those things don't hook no matter what kind of power adder u have so why not if all ur doing is highway rolls lmao
@@scotts1668? The whole point of gate on a procharger is to control boost and not be locked in to pulley size . So you put smallest pulley for top end power and open wastegate down low to cut power and control traction .
Let’s fuckin go
I would imagine the Whipple setup breathes better than the procharger with that cold air placement
The Procharger has a large air to air intercooler. I have a D1-X and my intake air temps are in the 70's at idle.
@sn95mustanggarage17
In summer heat at the track?
Do they just work on GM stuff? I’ve never seen any Fords or Dodge vehicles getting any work done there
Yes only gm
What did it make wth the Whipple??
I dont think they keep good enough records to give that info. Would be a great thing to point out to see the difference verse the 2. Like actually show why switching was beneficial. Perfect way to show why they push Procharger
848 whp 15lbs
Is that HP to the crank or to the wheel?
Chasis dyno is to the wheels.
You can tell by the type of dyno. This setup is a chassis dyno, which would mean, the HP numbers are RWHP on the Maro. So, to the wheels on this specific setup.
Orange camero has some disturbing noises...back end of pull...
Wonder how it's doing since visit...
Yeah, boost is coming on later for some reason
I’m not a v8 guy but I always thought the lifters were In The head . An I work on DOHC motors 😅
What is with the almost VTEC sound that hits at 3k rpm?
active exhaust opening up more than likely
Maybe the socket they left in my engine bay rolling around.
@@jamesmckinney49510mm 😮😅
Kid needs to pay attention and just take in all the info he throws at him and understand its not easy to teach someone while doing a not easy job !
I would say NO, it came to you together and I will pick it up, when it’s put back together!!!
Do you work on 2017 Audi RS7?
No
To add to the guys who are wondering about the insults being thrown at others in the shop that may not know as much.
Obviously, you apply for a job you know where and what they do. You HAVE to have some job knowledge. I’m a fairly new DIY guy, I’m not “into cars” and documenting a huge shop but I know that I should know what a trunion is.
Also, work ANY job long enough and have a helper/ new hire that doesn’t pick up on shit. I’m patient as all get out, after a few months I’m spitting fire tf are they supposed to do. Third, if you meet fire with fire, it’d chill. Cat doesn’t know enough about the hobby he’s into to even counter on the basic level. No knock against the camera guy but if you wanna level a playing field you learn what you need to about what you’re dealing with. It’s not a Disney editing job.
Not so sure I would take off a Whipple for a procharger I've had a procharger and they're just a pain in the ass😊
What issues with the procharger have you had ?
Trying to decide whipple or procharger
Curious why he wasnt happy with the whipple
In my opinion this is kinda sad,about 15years ago I was making 862hp with a 1.8l 4cyl so I would just think a v8 boosted,meth,e should make a ton more
This sport is not cheap you have to pay to play wanting to get it down cheaper could cost more then what you would have spent doing it right the first time.
Brrrrpppppp
Crazy how the very experienced mechanics who 100% specialize in GM vehicles, specifically LS/LT platforms, know everything inside and out and act like a person who is learning this stuff should automatically know it all like them. If their annoyed about the videos and social media stuff then they should work somewhere that doesnt operate this way. Its funny at times but more makes them look like a holes who are actually ignorant as they dont want to spread their knowlege in a productive way. Not the greatest look overall to the shop. Plus the way they talk about peoples cars at times that are paying a premium to have them worked on there.
Yea, it’s not cool talking crap on other people’s vehicles UNLESS, they got permission from the owner first for video purposes only
It's called the "real world" there snowflake. Just like how most people give each other shit at their everyday job. Or complain about a job site. It's real, it's raw. Don't like it don't watch. Simple.
You talking about the beginning of the video where he’s talking about the guy in Akeron who took it to an outside shop and they screwed him which makes the customer not theirs? The text is sent to him that’s free info. Also when you take your car to another shop and they screw you expect to get clowned by your previous good shop. Haven’t heard them talking crap about customers though that was simply a story. I mean they talk shit to each other but what shop doesn’t? Idk I wouldn’t take offense to any of that if I were their customer.
Ok sister.
You hit the nail on the head. This content would be much more popular if the buffoons in the videos weren’t so insufferable. That’s exactly why I stopped watching these after the other videographer left.
Too high psi FTW on LT port injection!!
I want the Whipple it looks better..
When I sold cars, I was able to drive both a procharged 5.0 mustang and one with a rousche supercharger, which is similar to Whipple.
It was night and day. The procharged mustang had a little more top-end power, but the rousche charged mustang had much better throttle response and more torque at lower rpm.
I'd much prefer a Whipple or rousche supercharger over a procharger. The looks of the top-mounted superchargers is the icing on the cake.
@@scarletboasame here. I would argue that if traction limited cars like fwd Hondas would do better with centrifugal superchargers. Rwd...turbo or positive displacement is better, but only if you can hook.
They just ripped his car apart and handed it back in pieces.. This is a car owners worst nightmare!! This it what happens when the pro's Like, National Racing in VA says 13K for a Whipple and a tune, and your buddy say's Hey I know someone who can do it for half that? Don't listen and Just keep saving and go to the pro's shite they send you home with a 12 month warranty even.. And if you spent 40K to 60K on your car, and you just hand it over to the local guy, Thats a huge Mistake.. We also have a guy in South Jersey doing Coyote Swaps in Notckbacks and 88 GT's around here, But IDK.. For now I need the MGW shifter put in first.. In about 2 years i will be ready for the super charger.. Not going to be happy till I hear the SC scream...
😎👌🏽👍🏽🙌🏽💖💯
Putting the air intake into the hot air farther back is bad.
Whats another $5-$7k to make 1000 whp lol. Guess if you do it may as well do it and get it done while its there.
Extra 10k
How many thousands more to go to port inj. Like 900 isn’t enough for a daily. Just-so Mr ego can say it’s got a 1000. These people are rich like Marcos on Texas metal.
A LOT of money to go port. Over 10k depending how you do it. Closer to 15-16k the correct way
What HP/TQ numbers did he make with the Whipple setup?
Did did over 20 passes on the dyno smh
Eric hates Camara boy
Eric looks like a slob. 1 fry away from a bypass
Pro tip get longer shirts, no 1 wants 2 c that lol
You get lawyer sue and don’t pay them anything
$900 for that shit?! Then it was supposed to be a cam/lifter swap and FIXED then they say come get it in pieces because it's a liability.....SUE THOSE MFERS!!!
Is Garrett related to Helen Keller?
Garret needs to Lay off the Disney Channel,Holley Diminator,I believe it used for tuning.
This guy says "i dont understand port injection" like does this guy not do research?? Does he know or retain anything at all being in the shop?? SMH
Good video but if you are going to hate on the camera man go back to the original guy.
FIRST
It’s pike they always have to end up being rude to the video guy when bills wife videos they’re not rude to her they know they be down the road being nasty to the lady of the shop
Even in my foxbody days. I didn’t like the way the look of a pro charger. I had a supercharger I had to syphon the oil in order to change it.
After the first 5 minutes of hearing the misfortune of some unfortunate car owner being laughed at, I still didn’t hear the reason for switching one supercharger for another. I can’t watch this video and won’t be watching this channel…
Report the car stolen