NDI - Easy Lower Thirds on your Live Stream - OBS Walkthrough
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2018
- NDI is an interesting new video technology. In this video I show you how you can use NDI in OBS to add lower third lyrics to your live stream. While I demonstrate this in OBS, this will also work in Wirecast and vMix as they suppot NDI as well.
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Thank you for your videos! Have been life savers during this crazy couple weeks of getting services on live stream!
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Thank you so much Steve! You took a load off my shoulder trying to figure out how to display slides from SSP into OBS. Amazing work. God bless you and your work!
Great video very useful. I have a question regarding pushing out multiple sources from the gaming PC to the streaming PC.
I currently can push out my game to the streaming PC without issue.
I can push my VLC to my streaming PC without issue.
I have one scene with my game output and the other with my VLC output. I can switch to the VLC content once but, when attempting to switch back to the game scene nothing is displayed.
Maybe this concept is not supposed to work and it is just made to broadcast only one scene to the streaming PC?
Thank you for sharing. This is super helpful!!!
Thanks for making those videos. They're helpful a lot. But I have 1 question: for propresenter stage display, do you need to buy a box at reviewedvision website to set other screen? At my church, I have 2 big TVs on the wall, 2 monitors on the stage and 1 projector on the back side. I want to make 2 monitors and backside projector are stage display, but I don't know how. Should I buy a usb 3.0 to HDMI and VGA output. And that outputs should be a input for 2 monitors and backside projector. Thanks !
Thanks for another great video!
Thanks for this video! I am having a latency issue. We’re using Propresenter 6 on a 2018 MacBook Pro and coming into a brand new Tricaster Mini SDI. When I switch slides, there seems to be anywhere from .5 to 2 seconds of lag between the switch and the time the Tricaster registers the change. I’ve tried both the NDI Scan Converter and tried using NDI syphon method and the issue is the same. Any ideas why this would be the case?
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Is it possible to get internet thru wifi and NDI source from ethernet port the same time in streaming pc?
Hi thanks for the great video! Is this possible to accomplish on wirecast? I am sending my propresenter output via NDI to my stream computer with wirecast, however i cannot seem to key out the black background of the stage display. It keys out a green or bright coloured background perfectly but not the black background from propresenter. Please help with your advice on this as we just started streaming our services and this feature is the only element missing for our production. Thanks alot! God bless
Whoa! I'd definitely like to know more about how to link 4 screen output
Hello Ballast, Any other features of achieving NDI Via Easy worship is that with version 6 of easy worship you can send out NDI Using Airsend,
what you need to do is to update the plugins for Airsend from Newtek website and replace with the plugins.. to this directory
C:\Program Files (x86)\Softouch\Easyworship 6, thats what I used to achieve my NDI source..
Processing.AirSend.x86.dll
Processing.AirSend.x64.dll
Dude. Thank you.
I’m curious does OBS work with the BlueJeans video conference app/program? Any chance of having a video on utilizing a program like BlueJeans with OBS? Love your channel great stuff!!
OBS has a plugin called "Virtual Cam" that basically makes your OBS stream available as a virtual webcam. BlueJeans would have no trouble picking up that source. The answer to your question is yes, it would work just fine.
For the displays is that the main monitor to computer, projector monitor and side monitor?
We're using Proclaim and vMix for our lower thirds with a luma key via NDI. We want to either add a drop shadow/outline to the text or a background but haven't been able to figure out how to do that, if it's possible at all. Any recommendations? Thanks!
Thank you for your video tutorial, can you help me I just tried it once then when I tried it again there is no computer’s name in ndi source.
newtek ndi tools require a cpu with ssse3 instruction - this is the error i am getting when i try to install the ndi tools 3.6. i guess i wont be able to install ndi on my streaming pc. if there is any way around it please let me know.
Thank you!!
Thanks for sharing, please can do a video for MediaShout soft way
Greta video and greta and short explanitoon.
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This is great! Appreciate the tutorial. Would this work with ProPresenter 7 and the different output displays?
Yes! It will work great!
@@BallastMedia cool. I'm going to give it a go at practice this week. Could we use one of the other output layers besides stage display? I really enjoy all of your videos
Bro... I sooo appreciate you!
Is there a way you can send me a copy of that overlay you made for the ProPresenter slides?
Thanks for your excellent videos, I've learned a lot from them.
One question though: when I tried setting up an NDI solution, I often found inconsistent performance with the NDI video source being slow to display (i.e. a slide change sometimes would take a second or two to be picked up by OBS). I've already made sure the two computers are connected to a dedicated gigabit ethernet switch, but the problem is still often very noticeable. Just wondering if anyone has experienced such slowness / performance issues with an NDI setup?
NDI is pretty Network and CPU hungry. Usually the first culprit of slow NDI is being on wifi. The second is an overloaded CPU. What are you using to send slides to OBS?
Very nicely explained
Hi.. can you help me to show bible in mac OBS ,any software for that for mac desktop
Hi,
I am facing issues with streaming using 2 PCs through NDI , I did all the steps with turning NDI Scan Converter on my Gaming PC and then moving onto the Streaming PC's StreamLabs OBS where I want my gaming pc screen to get capture, but while adding the NDI Source , my gaming pc doesnt get detected on it even though I allowed every stuffs on firewall , even disabled firewall too. Please help
Can you give us a video by using Video Psalm software in OBS And in NDI option ...
Hi does OBS IN Mac support NDI source PLUGIN ?
Can i use two different laptops
one is windows laptop for showing slides and lyrics connected to NDI source to other Mac laptop for live streaming.
Is that possible ? Thanks
I would like to see this video done with videopsalm using OBS and using the NDI option
Hi Steven, is there a need to configure in connecting a laptop to PC via NDI? They cannot connect, or may be my laptop is Windows 9 and PC is 10? Using a gigabit router with this. Thank You
How are the computers setup on the network? Can they see each other on the network? In the same subnet, etc?
Hi! Thanks for the awesome video. We're running ProPresenter 6 and using NDI to send to a separate machine just like you describe. The issue we are having is that sometimes in the NDI source window, our stage display will be display 3 but sometimes it will be display 2. Do you know the reason for this? I have been trouble shooting for a little while now and not quite figuring it out
Unfortunately this is a common problem with ProP6. You may want to look at upgrading to ProP7 as apparently they've fixed this issue in 7.
@@BallastMedia how do you get the stage display in pro 6 to show up through ndi?
By using NDI, can we able to use Video Psalm software with extend options in live streaming ?
There's really no reason why you couldn't. NDI is simply a means of encoding sources and sending them over a network. You can encode and send any video or audio signal your computer can create.
This is so helpful! Thank you!
I do this via Powerpoint with White Text over Black Background. Applied Chroma Key via OBS and VIOLA! I'm using PPT with animations for more interactivity on OBS.
thanks for the video
I am wanting to pull up live facebook messages as lower thirds during my livestream. What is my best option?
how do you use propresenter 6 stage display as an option for ndi
How to use lyrics to lower third and project for church main screen at the same time???
Thanks very much for the info. However I have some questions as follow:
1. I have OBS installed in my surface pro 6 (core i7, 16GB ram, 512GB hard disk) and I'm currently trying using OBS software. Yet, if I want to use this OBS in church with NDI technology, according to your explanation, this can't be done with my surface pro 6 laptop alone because it does not have multiple video output card, correct? So, are you saying that the only way to do this is you MUST have a "desktop computer" with expandable option to add the video output card (with 4 output channel to different monitors)? If so, then all laptops (windows or mac) are not possible to use this NDI technology except only desktop computers (Mac or Windows). Correct?
2. What kind of cables do you use to connect from one computer to the other using the NDI? LAN network cables or hdmi? connect them directly with each other or through a normal LAN network router where we use to connect to internet through a modem?
1. Not sure what you mean, depending on how you are sending NDI, you can send any display, you could send your main display, you don't necessarily need multiple outputs - but if you are using worship presentation software and want to send to your main screens, a stage display, and a lower thirds send, yes you will need to be able to send multiple display outputs.
2. Yes, NDI connects over a network.
@@BallastMedia thanks sir. Sorry for my poor English as a non native English user. Understood your explanation. I have two more questions as follow:
1. If NDI signal is send over network over LAN network cables, if let's say I want to buy two PTZ optics cameras and use them with this NDI technology to connect with my surface pro 6 with OBS software, is there any extra hardwares do I need to connect them and control them with my surface pro laptop?
2. To be able to use OBS software, do I need to purchase an extra display monitor and use it as a extended screen? Or I can just simply use my surface pro laptop screen is good enough? What is your recommendation?
My streaming pc have Fast Ethernet(10/100) card and my gaming pc have Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000) Card.
I have D-Link gigabit switch to connect both PC.
Will OBS NDI Work on my setup ???
Yes
Hi Steven, thank you for your time making this video. I am new to the live streaming world and using OBS. I followed the instructions to use Display 2 on the presentation computer to overlay the lyrics. My lyrics overlay my camera nicely but when stop the lyrics, the presentation computer's background still show. How can I get rid of that. Regards
Not exactly sure what you are describing, but I think you just need to create two scenes in OBS, one with the lyrics overlay, and one without. When you are done displaying lyrics switch to the scene without the overlay.
Thank you very much
Hello Ballast, we are using Wirecast and Easyworship on our computer. should I have Easyworship install on a separate computer? Currently we are on the set up phase and I have both on the same PC.
Yes, I would recommend doing those two functions on separate computers. One for video/wirecast and the other for lyrics/projection.
Hey. We use SSP. I have been using NDI to pull graphics to OBS since you first made a TH-cam on NDI. Do I need a license for the SSP Stage display feature or is it standard?
No, stage display is part of the default ssp license.
@@BallastMedia THANK YOU!! I will try it!!!
Steve - I’m a newbie at all of this, but was wondering if all of the communication between the presentation computer and the streaming computer is via wireless connection? Or, is it just better to connect them both via Ethernet?
Yes, use ethernet. when you use wifi you'll get a lot more delay in the video being transmitted.
Ballast Media so, just connect an Ethernet cable between the two computers?
@@FirstBaptistChurchMesquiteNV they need to be connected to a switch, and on the same network.
Greetings from Panama. I have the Propresenter on a machine since it is for projection and the OBS on another computer that is used for streaming, could integrate the Propresenter with the obs?
Sure, you can use the technique I demonstrate in this video with the stage display output, or you can add the multi display module and create an output just for ndi use in to OBS. Just be aware that the ndi plugin for OBS is only available in the PC version.
@@BallastMedia The NDI plugin is available for Windows, Linux, & experimentally for Mac too.
github.com/Palakis/obs-ndi/releases/tag/4.3.0 You just have to manually install it for Linux (Debian or similar) and Mac.
Hi Steve, I tried to use the knowledge from this tutorial last Sunday but it was extremely laggy. Is there a way I can connect the 2 pcs?
We use OBS and easyworship 7. Thank you
Is one of the computers on wifi? Or both hardwired to the network on Ethernet?
Ballast Media both were connected to the wifi
Quick one: I connected both PCs directly via ethernet cable and there was absolutely no delay. Thanks Steve
Must one always use gigabyte switch before both PCs can be in a network? Or computers connected to the same router via ethernet can do the same work
i have sony action cam... can i send video to obs... this device have wifi to stream to appsony
You mention needing a Gigabit Switcher and Gigabit network cards to use NDI with Easy Worship to OBS. Does that need that speed of internet service? Or we just need that that equipment to handle the load?
That's for sending ndi from computer to computer. What you stream over your internet connection will be compressed and determined by the bitrate you set the encoder to in OBS
Would being wired in on the same router have the same effect? And does not having network equipment at the gigabit level make a difference? We have a router 1 foot away from both computers and the sound system.
Hi @Ballast Media, I release this is a bit of an older post but I've just been discovering NDI which is pretty sweet! however I am having and issue. just for testing purposes I'm using a laptop and my home desktop PC. I have OBS installed (with NDI plugin) on the desktop. and I have the vMix Desktop Capture installed on the laptop. But when I go to OBS and add an NDI source it doesn't show the laptop. However I also downloaded NewTek's own software including Studio Monitor and in that software I can see the desktop of the laptop without issue. So it seems like the Vmix Desktop Capture is going out of okay. But for some reason OBS itself isn't picking it up. Any thoughts or help would be great!
Do you have the 64-bit version of OBS installed? If you have the 32-bit, the plugin won't work.
@@BallastMedia Yes, I do have 64-bit installed. I discovered something kind of interesting I installed the NDI Tools which included something called Studio Monitor which did pickup the NDI from the laptop onto my desktop. And with that open and minimized OBS then does find the "Studio Monitor." But it doesn't find the actual Laptop. So there's a work around but it is odd that OBS is picking up the machine itself.
@@jmred88 Have you rebooted everything, sometimes it takes a reboot to get the NDI to settle.
Can someone help me with a question? I have a mac running propresenter, and then i have our livestream computer running windows. If i have both computers plugged into the same network and i download the NDI plugins, will the video signal from the Mac show up on the stream windows computer? Thank You
Yes, ndi doesn't care what os, as long as you are sending an ndi signal out from one, the other will receive it.
OBS system or Atem? Which do you prefer? One or the other?
For anything beyond switching a couple cameras I'd go with a hardware switcher like the atem, and then just use a single video feed from that in to OBS for streaming or recording.
Stupid question, the OBS is on the computer (pc) that you use for live stream and NDI is on the ProPresenter7 computer (mac)?
Yes, essentially. You need an NDI component in OBS to receive the NDI stream.
Forgive my naivete as I am a newbie to this whole recording during a service. Can you please elaborate on the need for three displays? I get the camera for the stage, but I'm a little confused about the projection output and the control. What are the last two displays showing? And does this do away with the need for PowerPoint? Thanks! Any input would be appreciated.
The three outputs from my computer are
1: control, this is what the operator sees/uses.
2: projection, this is what goes up on our main screens (lyrics)
3. Stage display, formatted for lower thirds to be overlayed over or video. This is just the lyrics for the songs, but in a different format so we can put it over the video.
Yes, this replaces PowerPoint.
@@BallastMedia thank you!
@@BallastMedia do you do all this on one computer? If so, can you share your build on TH-cam? I have a small church and am pretty much a one-man-band right now, but would love to record for the congregation.
Nice video
@ ~ 3:55
Why go through the trouble of creating a mask for something as simple as that instead of using the crop/pad filter? It has the same result and much easier to make without having to open up a photo editing software
thats just what i was thinking!
I was kind of wondering why he didn't just crop it as well.
Is there a video on this?
@@newnanchapelumc7365 pause @ 3:55 and on the sub menu his mouse is on, you'll see the crop/pad option. Click on that and everything else should be straight forward.
Hello Mr Ballast, does NDI works on Mac or is it only Windows and Linux
Iosia Pati NDI works in Mac as well. But the NDI add on for OBS is only on PC right now.
ahhhhh. thanks@@BallastMedia
There are Debian packages available for download on the page that he linked for OBS. Vmix doesn't have support for Linux, but appears to have support for Windows & Mac platforms. NDI is a common protocol that is widely supported or available on multiple platforms, so it isn't tied to Windows, Mac, or Linux -- it just has some heavy hardware/network demands.
Steve, I am using a Mac for ProPresenter 6 and a PC for OBS. I am currently running 2 cameras, but looking at adding a 3rd. We will go live on Facebook this Sunday. I would like to add another source coming from the Mac into OBS to show the video and graphics directly during the live stream. Without using NDI, how would that work?
You can add another video interface and connect an HDMI feed from ProP that way I guess.
@@BallastMedia so that would be an HDMI out from ProPresenter as another screen and capture that as a USB intoo the second computer?
@@frazehome correct.
@@BallastMedia thank you! I'll work on that.
What advantages does vMix Desktop Capture have over NDI's Scan Converter?
The NDI suite didn't have the Scan Converter when I made this video. It does essentially the same thing, with a few additional features, like selecting a region (which you can't do in Desktop Capture)
@@BallastMedia I see, thanks!
What do you mean by 'stage display'?
How much power do you need for ndi and OBS? Do you need a monster graphic card and i7 or i9 processor? If you have like 6-8 inputs, like cameras and presentation computer streams, what kind of computer is needed? Is the processor more of an issue than the graphic card or where is the power needed in a ndi-system? Planning for ndi in my church and I don't find answers on this topic, the computer power need.
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I wouldn't do much more then 1-2 NDI signals. If you need more then that, I'd recommend moving to hardware.
is there a video that shows how to do this in worship tools presenter ?
How to insert the camera and do this ndi
I'm currently running my Propresenter computer HDMI to an ATEM switcher to feed our lower thirds with Luma Keying. I'm having a hard time finding how I can push out videos and graphics from sermons from my propresenter to the same ATEM swticher (from propresenter). Is NDI the only way to get this accomplished?
Are you running ProP 7, or still on 6?
@@BallastMedia Propresenter 7; I have just realized perhaps I would need to run a second HDMI or SDI output from the CPU running Propresenter to the ATEM switcher - that way, I can run one with lower thirds, and the other for full-screen output displays for sermon ppts and videos. Is this accurate? Or am I way off here?
Also, would you recommend the Decklink Duo 2 to expand the output capabilities of a computer display? (Audience/stage/live stream lower thirds/live stream full display - 4 ports)?
Check out this video, might give you an idea of how to accomplish what you are trying to do: th-cam.com/video/6xueuhuPgJk/w-d-xo.html
hello
how can I show on OBS the powerpoint that works with clicker and the same time using OBS ? hoppe I have explain my problem good, sorry my bad english
Is the powerpoint running on the same computer as OBS, or on a different computer?
Why they naver consider X split as broadcasting software.
NDI is so far easy on XSplit.
Hi. Your church has a TH-cam Chanel?
No, we just stream live on our website. cspc.net
I did this on my mac and for whatever reason obs always crashed and it never crashed before. As soon as I would put the source to ndi and selected the display it just crashes. Do you have any answers on this? Or anyone know how to fix it? My Mac is brand new and has a good processor
Not sure why. I do know that in general OBS runs better on PC.
Ballast Media Should I just buy vmix then? Or is streaming just better with a PC
Hi Stephen, Do you know if this would be possible with "OpenLP" (openlp.org)?
It should be, the Display Capture program will use whatever is put on the display so you could use it with anything that can generate the right colors and text.
Hello... Thanks for all video's. I've tried this. But it doesn't work.... I have a separate computer for the subtitles. So two computers: a streaming computer and a subtitle computer. Both computers have 2 monitors. Both monitors of the streaming computer can be detected as NDI sources on both computers in OBS. But the 2 subtitle monitors can't be detected (Computer name does appear). I have looked everywhere... firewall, streaming facilities in networkcentre etc. Switched streamingfacilities on in "All Networks". The 2 subtitle monitors are not showing up as NDI sources.... But when I make a screencapture in OBS of subtitlecomputer (and made a NDI source on the streamingcomputer in OBS), it does appear in the streaming computer (its the main monitor). When I want to make a screencapture of the second monitor, it isn't there... What do I do wrong?
What are you using to "send" the monitor out as NDI on the network?
Hey thanks for responding. It already works it was the GPU. But now I have something weird going on. The picture and audio is not sync.
Why am i not able to see ndi source in obs even after installing ndi run time
You installed the runtime and the plugin? Probably an issue with how you installed the plugin.
I tried to follow this video exactly and only get black screens as inputs in OBS. I can see all of the outputs, but each are just black. Any ideas?
Hmmm, so when you add the NDI source in OBS you can see the other computer/display as an option, but it's just showing up black?
Hmmm, so when you add the NDI source in OBS you can see the other computer/display as an option, but it's just showing up black?
Ballast Media Thank you for the reply! Yes, exactly. I tried to restart both computers and checked the basic setting and nothing changed.
Is this still true or is OBS updated to the point that this process is different
Still the same. You need to install the NDI Plugin (and follow the installation instructions - you also need the NDI framework installed before installing the plugin.)
I need to get sound into obs from propresenter
Where is your video coming from in to OBS? Can you bring a physical audio line in from the computer running ProP?
can i have the jpeg of on the propresenter?
3:15
I'd be happy to send it to you, you can contact me on my facebook page in the description above. BUT - that being said, if you are using ProPresenter 7 it's much better to do this now through a dedicated display out with a Look. (You no longer need to use the Stage Display to get an additional output.)
Why does NDI doesn't appear in my obs? I installed NDI already and the obs ndi.
You've installed the NDI runtime? Make sure you've gotten the mot recent version of the NDI plugin. Are you on a Mac or PC?
Ballast Media I am on Mac and it is not showing up.
Did it show up for you
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You can go to my facebook page (linked in the description of the video) and send me a message. I am going to have limited access to the internet over the next couple weeks though because I am traveling. (Mid October)
is this free
Yes, the OBS plugin and the vMix capture program are free downloads.
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