@@kawaiidestruktor7809 Yeah , with Intel's CLOWN Raja Koduri, ARC will turn out to be an NAVI DISASTER all over again 😂 But first, ARC will be endlessly "delayded" ! Intel is an JOKE !
@@jjthehoser762 I really like my i3 too. Only 4 cores which I failed to notice when buying, but very impressed. I have it paired with a GTX 1050 and it does fine on older titles and less demanding ones like Rocket League.
10th gen i5-10400 was also good budget options. Even buying new it can be had for a good price, but occassionly there's eBay discounts and it becomes a great deal, only slightly more expensive than the i3. 12th gen i3 has a surprising high uplift in performance over the 10th gen.
The cooler is indeed an issue for the new socket. I upgraded a friend's pc and we chose the Noctua D15. Surprisingly the lga1700 kit was in the box but due to the misleading information on the seller's website we already proceeded to ordering the kit. What happened to you is that you received an older revision of the product (pre lga1700 ready). The new revisions have it included, Amazon updated the description accordingly but kept selling the older batch that they already had in stock
@@DawidDoesTechStuff me and my friend were shocked too, as it was nearly impossible to find an lga1700 kit in stock, we had to make an order and it would arrive in 4-5 days after. We immediatly canceled the order once we found the kit inside the box Edit: also we were in a rush so asking Noctua for a FREE kit was out of the question
@Schobe-wan Kenobi actually I didn't have any options at that moment, most budget friendly brands didn't had the lga1700 kits released yet. At the price of the D15 I would have been able to buy a SilentiumPc 360 liquid cooler so...
@Schobe-wan Kenobi yes it's an aio, excellent price/quality ratio. They have big tdp support and have been using this brand for more than 6 years. I built several pcs using their air coolers and they didn't fail in delivering. I still own a i5 6600k that is overclocked to 4.8ghz and it's cooled by the Fera 3, does the job amazingly, the cpu rarely hits 80 degrees (just spikes when the rendering restarts) on cinebench r23 stress test
I'm happy with the raw cpu performance of my i5-12400, i just wish that the RX 6600 XT didn't cost as much as the entire rest of the build just by itself 😭
I was slightly impressed when I first saw the cooler because I thought the whole thing was just a hunk of aluminum. When Dawid pointed out the the top part is just plastic, I was like "ah, I should've known. How foolish of me to assume they'd spend slightly more for an actually decent cooler." AMD is definitely more generous with providing a proper stock solution.
@rtrd First of all, there's no need for name calling. Secondly, you're right. The temps are fine right now, but wait till summer when it's 90°+ outside. If you're sitting in your room playing all day, do you really think it'll be hovering around 65° inside that caseafter a 2 or 3 hour gaming session? I mean it's possible if he has the AC cranked up all day but let's be real. When I mentioned that AMD offers a better stock solution, I was referring to their spire and wraith coolers. That's not to say they don't have a garbage one as well known as the stealth. But at least they offer 2 other options instead of none at all.
the cooler i got for 3600, and 5600x was terrible. And my 3600 was very warm, and the mobos bios was reving the rpms up and down all the time, making the fan sound wWiiiiiiiiowooooowiiiiiiiiiiwooooooowiiiiiwooo all the time.
I know there is a huge aftermarket for cooling and that makes sense when overclocking, but if you're in a room with a reasonable temperature and have typical airflow these stock fans are fine--which is exactly why intel includes them. It would cost Intel a trivial amount to make a larger heatsink, but they clearly do not believe it's needed.
My ancient ivy bridge system with an i7-3770s is still trucking along surprisingly well for now. This is probably the kind of system I'll upgrade to in a year or two, once components are on clearance or readily available used.
Nice video Dawid. Just 2 little details. The stock cooler has improved again. They brought the copper slug in the center back. Starting with Haswell, Intel stock coolers were purely made from aluminium. Right until the last generation. And about the cooler compability on LGA 1700. Some aftermarket coolers will fit in theory. The solution from ASUS is nice but dangerrous. Since LGA1700 has a thinner substrate than previous generations, many air cooler either won't make proper contact or there will be the danger that mount gets overtightened and the socket, mainboard pcb and even CPU could be damaged. Happens mostly with entry level coolers. That is why ASUS only does it on the high end boards. Watercoolers and simular high end cooling solutions usually don't have this problem.
The CPU Cooler availability is a real problem at the moment. I had to get NZXT to ship me the LGA 1700 mounting bracket (for free), but they did take their time with it. I had to follow up several times to move my order through. Definitely held up my build for a while.
The mounting hardware on the Noctua U12S Redux had the blue caps for LGA1700 in my recent build but I was building on 1200 still. Interesting to see these pains on the new gen wonder if they had issues communicating with manufacturers what the finalized chipset would be or something
@@DawidDoesTechStuff The GPU (almost) costs more than the other parts combined. *400 i5-s were always good picks for budget builds ever since the 9th gen.
I think the 5600X has a disadvantage with being installing on an alienware extracted PCB ,CB scores are about 5-600 less for MT than they should be, and ST 20-30 below...But i guess the 5600X has gotten the Dell virus equivalent of Covid or lost it's will to work properly being depressed in an alienware housing.
I did also think that, so I retested the same setup using a motherboard that isn’t full of Dell virus (Asus B550 Tuf Board) and I got the same results.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You can get the AMD in the Dell, but you can't get the Dell out of the AMD.. it appears that the cpu has been a victim of... Dellgradation o.O
@@DawidDoesTechStuff But on a more serious note, it might also be Dell buying lower binned cpu's for their systems as a cost saving measure, company profit you know :p
Also i kind of like the front aesthetic on that XPG case, and it looks like they at least followed the most important rule and gave it mesh for some solid airflow
Considering that the cooler spacers for the Alder Lake chips are shorter than the prior series chips then using the old hardware on a board that has the extra holes drilled still will not give you the proper pressure on the cpu for cooling. Much better to get the right hardware for your cooler. I ordered a Noctua nh-d15 cooler around the first of January 2022 and it did include the mounting hardware for the LGA 1700 socket in the retail package.
That's for this. This is pretty much the system I want to get at some point this year 3060ti /6600xt. Really good point with the coolers! I will definitely keep that in mind when getting one!
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 not really. Here in Germany you can find h410 and h510 from 55-65€ respectively. Yeah its not the best chipset,but is more than enough for a 10100f or 10105f. I just build one 10105f with an asrock h510 board. They went for 135€ BOTH. There is nothing even close here by amd.
@@Lennox032 of course they are,but that is no problem since in every of my cases i had gtx 1070-1660S-1060 which are all very decent in combination with the F series. Pcie4 for what with budget builds? Crappy rx 6500 64bit buffer 2gb card with insane pricing? B560 and b550 motherboards are in the same ballpark. The cheapest 520 costs 50€ and the cheapest 510 costs 56€. The cheapest 550 is at 70€ and the cheapest 560 is 83€. Ryzen 5600g is the cheapest cpu if you go for budget gaming at 205€. So the cheapest amd gaming mobo/cpu goes for 275€ while intels cheapest offer that can actually play games with a discrete gpu goes for 159€ with 550 and 560 chipset respectively. Of course the 5600g is better that 10105f due to core count etc BUT if you go for Budget…look at the price difference. 159€ vs 275€ . Keep in perspective that im referring to the budget segment. With the price difference between intel and amd you can get ram/ssd and still not reach the 275€ mark. No offense intended here.
@@TheGoatBeats you make a fair point, Prices are a little different here in the UK, but AMD has some catching up in the budget price segment their prices need to come down a bit. The Ryzen 3 3100-3300x are non existent and if available priced too high.
I usually watch videos at double speed because studying for the bar exam broke me on a fundamental level. Today is the first time I heard the opening jingle and realized it was a little funky and not super bouncy and upbeat.
I’d like to see these two run with SAM on for the AMD card and CPU. SAM can give you significant amount performance in some games. Either well that intel is pretty impressive
Having support for older mounting holes should be more common. On AM4 it was a rare sight and I can't remember other boards having also AM3 holes than Crosshair VI Hero.
Finally a realistic build with the 12400f. And it does perform pretty well for the price, just need to have the motherboard prices calm down a bit. I'm planning to get one of these to finally upgrade from my 4th gen Intel that still kick but to this day. Great video
I came up with the following for my $1000 12 gen intel parts list. Very similar, I just like the i3 as the budget king. Assuming you were able to get the z690 board cheaply as that is the biggest difference: i3 12100f Deepcool Gammax 400 Cooler Asus Prime B660 Plus ATX mobo Team T-Force Vulcan 16GB 3200 RAM kit WD SN-570 M.2 1TB NVME SSD Gigabyte RX 6600 Eagle Corsair cxm 550w PSU Zalman S3 ATX case
I ordered an Enermax cooler off amazon for my 1700 socket. Said it was compatible but did not come with the correct hardware. Instead I used the AMD screw and nut combination and lines it up the best I could. I think im just gonna get an AIO now for it. Would be cool to see some reviews on the 1700 socketed coolers
Dawid, no joking I’m currently building my first PC with an LGA-1700 socket. Ordered the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo and it lists the socket compatibility. But alas! It doesn’t come with the correct mounting so I’m now waiting until Friday for a $7 bracket.
Did a build for just trying out stuff recently with the Gigabyte Z690M DS3H DDR4, which cost only 139 € here. and the i5 12500. Went pretty well but the Intel cooler proved to be way too weak. 10 minutes in Cinebench R23 and the CPU hit 100 degress at 23 degrees ambient. Creepy to think that this cooler is also shipped with the 12600 non k which puts another 200 Mhz on the clock. (and yes i checked whether it was properly mounted.)
Intel really shines with its new 12gen processors. Even though AMD boards are a little cheaper, the only comparable price to value ratio from AMD right now is the Ryzen 5 5600g, and the problem with that CPU is that it doesn't support PCIe gen 4.
I like the mention of MB prices, but would be better to get a "package" price for CPU+MoBo for comparison. That way we get ot see the real difference between platforms and gain more information about the value of each.
Apparently some LGA 1200 coolers dont get proper mounting pressure with the ASUS boards that have 1200/1700 mounting holes. I have a TUF h670 with a deep cool gammax GT and had no issues though.
@@lewzealand4717 the 6600Xt was about 40% above MSRP but seems to have settled at about 20% above MSRP at the moment not sure if that will drop further but seems to have stabilised for now however a 3060 is still about 70% above MSRP and a 6600xt is way better assuming you don't want Raytracing or DLSS.
@@mixit2413 Where the hell do you see it 20% above MSRP? I see it for a min of maybe $510 which is 32% above MSRP. Same with the 6600 at $430, 30% above MSRP
@@sawyerbass4661 sorry UK it is, US have weird pricing right now but in the UK 6600xt is 450 and 6600 is 400 i have found the 6600xt in the us for 470 you have to keep looking though and prices do bounce around.
@@mixit2413 I guess this makes some sense since the U.S still has the tariffs. It does seem to be a good sign that they are getting that close. I've been checking Newegg and Microcenter regularly for a month and the 6600 has been $429 twice for a very short time and the 6600XT was $499 once for a very short time too. But if I take the weekly average for the lowest ones it's at least $440 and $509
What is the program you use to get the cpu/gpu usage percentages? The one with the orange lettering in the upper left. I want to see what's bottlenecking my system when I game. Great video!
Aah, I'm happy that Intel didn't change its cooler's sound signature, even if they added the much needed RGB they made sure it still sounds like a wailing welsh woman
I bought the regular non-F version a couple of weeks ago, and I can't wait to build a new system with it at the end of the month when my college schedule isn't so chaotic with constant assignments! Hahaha. Anyhow, going from an i5-9600K to an i5-12400 should be a nice upgrade for me! Especially since my 9600K's lack of Hyper-threading is only becoming more and more noticeable as time goes on. 😅
When you already have 6 real cores I'm not sure hyper-threading helps much, and the speed hike from a 9600K to 12400 is only about 25%, so I'm not sure I'd call that a huge upgrade...
@@d2factotum It won't be an enormous difference, but it'll certainly be a decent performance gain! Like, when considering the L3 cache, going from 9 to 18mb of L3 will be very helpful in CPU heavy games like Assetto Corsa Competizione, which puts my 9600K on its knees due to the lack of Hyper-threading and relatively low L3 cache by today's standard. I mean, even the i3 12100 has more L3 cache than my 9600K, so I feel its a good time to upgrade. Plus, I'd rather upgrade now while I can still sell my 9600K on the used market and make a decent profit from it. 9600K's will obviously not be worth as much in a year from now as what they are today. It's not a bad CPU, but ultimately, I upgraded to the i5-12400 because I want the peace of mind of being on a platform that'll easily last me the next two and a half to three years. Not to mention, outside of gaming, the extra performance of the 12400 will make general desktop use much snappier. I don't know if it's an issue with my 9600K specifically, but it handles Windows 11 horribly. Gaming performance on Windows 11 with my 9600K is a nice improvement over what I experienced on Windows 10 (especially regarding connection stability in multiplayer racing games), but general desktop use feels like I'm on a Sandy Bridge Pentium with a learning disability. Oh, and I have my Windows install on an NVMe SSD, so the storage device I'm using is not the problem. So, hopefully, with the higher L3 cache and Hyper-threading of the 12400, it'll make the general desktop use of my PC a bit smoother. If it doesn't, then it likely means my Windows installation is corrupt and I'll have to start fresh with a clean copy. I hope that's not the case since, with my online college classes, I can't afford to have my PC out of commission for multiple days. Combine downloading and installing a fresh copy of Windows 11, optimizing my install for the best performance possible, as well as downloading and installing all my games and applications on an internet connection that feels like it came straight from 2005, it's no exaggeration when I say installing a fresh copy of Windows 11 would be a week long project. It's taken that long in the past! 😅😭
@@doabrad1850 Fair enough. I guess I tend not to bother upgrading my CPU until I've actually got something that doesn't perform well, which means I tend to have much greater jumps in performance--last jump was from an Athlon 860K to a Ryzen 2600, for instance, which is something like a 75% boost (more, for anything that uses more than four cores).
Just because the CPU is lower in price, the motherboard cost eats ups the savings. Top that with the lack of cooling options and I will stick with my 5600x and x570 setup. Also note, with the appropriate settings, the 6600xt will game well in 1440p and many titles in 4k.
Building a gaming PC right now as I haven't had a new PC since 2008.. Still running an Intel Core 2 Duo and a GTX 550Ti... I Have everything for my new PC except a GPU (Got a 5600x and an Asus B550-F MB with 64GB of Gskill RGB Neo).. Gonna be biting the bullet and shelling over like $1500 for an RTX 3070 over the next couple weeks. It's gonna hurt but I'll get over it eventually.
Went for a 12500 myself, along with a MSI Z690-P PRO DDR4 and some RipjawsV 4x8 GSkill 3600 RAM. For some stupid reason this mbo doesn't boot with XMP enabled and all 4 RAM sticks installed, so I am on 3x8 until BIOS update comes out, but other than that, man - this 12 series is really something else and well worth spending your money.
G'day Dawid, The only Intel CPU that works out cheaper than an AMD when in a Combo is the i3-12100-12300, That is only because we don't have any AMD R3 CPUs, if you go i5/i7/i9 when you factor in a Motherboard while an AMD B450 $89AUD A520 & B550 $99AUD, X570 $179AUD for Intel even a H610 is $179AUD, B660 $209AUD & Z690 $319AUD
Because of the messed up market got a acer nitro 50 with 11400f and 3060ti. Dual channel 16gb with a small light case. Only thing is it only has one outtake fan because they just swapped the 1650 model that had a 10400f with an 11400f and 3060ti. Runs 80c max so still not too bad but it needs one more intake😭
I have the same CPU (also the same cooler), GPU and same amount of RAM, so pretty much the same system, but my temperatures are bad, really different compared to the system shown in the video. Any idea or solution to this?
AMD better shape the heck up Dawid! First they launch the terrifyingly inept 6500xt, and now intel beats them on price AND performance?! With new GPUs on the way?! Fingers crossed AMD pulls through with their new architecture and the graphics card bubble falls flat. We need more competition for us peons to benefit!
Unfortunately, I don't see AMD lowering prices despite being handily outclassed in value with Alder Lake. There are so many people with AM4 boards still on Zen+ or Zen 2, and it would still be cheaper for them to pay extra for Zen 3 if it means not switching out their whole platform.
@@alexfrey4828 B660 boards are out. Right now, some are hard to find and some are too expensive, but there are good $120-$140 options out there. They'll also get cheaper and more available in the coming weeks and months.
8:03 Maybe Intel will use the same *INSANE* pricing scheme of good availability and sales when the Unicorn herd of Arc GPUs come out? Talk about blowing minds! Edit: 8:22 Aha! Great minds think alike!
Dang, that 12th gen CPU just having a tiny sip at the watts and pounding out great results. Be interesting to see it paired with a beast mode GPU to see if that new stock cooler causes a melt down or at least prevents thermal throttling.
Kind of seems like a waste of a z690 motherboard feature set if you dont blck overclock the locked chips. Which honestly makes the value grow of the 12th gen chips. But that depends if the board has the clock gen
An i5 12400 is a better idea, you never know when you are going to need a display output without the GPU... and the price is basically the same just like the performance.
1200 vs 1700 is NOT the holes.. its the Studs are 1mm shorter. You can mount a LGA1200 on a 1700 motherboard.. It WILL look like it fits, and feel like it too. BUT your processor will overheat and spike. WHY are all the tech channels missing this. I ran into this months ago mounting my 12700KF with an Artic Freeze, NXT Kracken and a Noctua air cooler. I got all three mounting kits and it was the studs that were the big issue.. !!!
Kinda weird taking a 200$ board with a 170$-ish CPU and then using the stock cooler. It would have been better saving that cost/use that money somewhere else inside of the PC
I'm still wondering if you have any thoughts about Windows 11. Here's mine. The new start menu is a huge step backwards and I have heard of no knew feature that would make me risk my oldest programs not running just to get rounded window corners and centered task bar that's ripped off from the Mac. It's a mute question as my four year old hardware can't run it, and no I definitely don't want to trick my computer into running it.
I have the exact build runing this CPU along with a 6600 XT and 32 gigs of Ram. This thing is a monster and keeping me very happy at 1080p gaming could care less about 4k or Ray tracing
@@WolfsOcean i'm not a cyberspunker either. i just don't don't think this build is good at all, not for last gen games, not this gen, not next gen. names like "beast" or "monster", i wouldn't even call my system that and i have: i7 10700k rtx 3080 MSI MPG z490 gaming plus mobo g-skill ripjaws 16gb DDR4 3200mhz NVME 1 tb, 3x samsung EVO 500gb SSD's 850W 80 plus gold rated modularPSU (cooler master) .... my monitor is the only thing i would say is worth calling any unworldly name, i'm only just getting used to it after a week running: samsung odyssey g9 neo 49" (totally love it :)))
@@mentalasylumescapee6389 I mean than your wrong I could easily send you screen shots if you want on many websites that show how my machine can handle any current gen game at make/ultra settings. Again the Key is Ray Tracing With Ray Tracing on it def Slows down alot at ultra setttings. For example cyberpunk at ultra with ray traycing i get 20-30FPS without it at 1080p I easily go up to 60-70 FPs on average 64.3 FPS. You gotta understand Vaule Vs Performance. Your build is def bettter than mine im not going to argue that one. The only thing my build has over yours is im running 32 gigs of DDR4 Ram vs 16 gigs. Your build will def last you at least another five yeras you take care of it correctly. Games coming out for the PS5 and newiest XBOX will not need a stronger CPU than the one in this video I can dam well tell you that.
@@mrducky179 It really hasn't though. As explained in the video, to even use this CPU, you have to get a fairly expensive motherboard just to use it. This essentially negates the low price of the Intel CPU as you're paying more overall. If you go with an AMD CPU not only, are you getting a good CPU for a low price, you're also not paying for an expensive motherboard. Though although this is a budget CPU, this is more so a high-end budget build. At the lower end, AMD still beats Intel in price to performance. I'm sure LGA1700 boards will get cheaper as time goes on, but that doesn't make AMD's CPUs any worse. In conclusion, you saying that AMD CPUs are no longer a good deal is still wrong regardless. Both are good CPUs, no need to bash the other just because you like one better than the other.
With that u9i just hit up there shop or tech support and they will most likely send u out mounting hardware. Damn it I paused the video to right this coming the scene before he plopped down the 17xx mounting bracket box. That’s my bad
David I'm so happy you didnt whisper Lenode at me this time. Last time I only had 1 earphone in and it felt like you were whispering in my ear. I could almost feel you over my shoulder and it really creeped me out. Confusing arousal is awkward to deal with in public. This was better thanks! 🤣🤣
My build has a i5 10400F and GTX 1080 TI with 16gb ddr4 2666mhz ram and a m.2 ssd. Not bad at all, although some parts are getting old, like the GPU, but I got it for a bargain over a year ago so that is why I have it.
Can u OC a non k CPU with every Z690 motherboard? I saw Der8auer doing it with a Strix board and I’m hoping for other brands to put the same feature in their motherboards.
Intel 12th gen CPU's are great other than the cooler situation for sure. 6600XT ain't that bad either IF you can get one of the cheaper ones I've seen (Asus Dual, Sapphire Pulse) but the Powercolor and Asrock ones I've seen are crazy expensive for what they are.
Another grand video lad, now it was the first time listening to you via Dobly Atmos with 'Voice' profile enabled, next level ASMR goodness says I, keep it up lad, as you'll be keepin' me up all night with that Ryzen 5600X running those frames good n' hot like ^^
ive made 5 purchases in a row trying to get a pc going. But all 5 have gone wrong so im kinda just done trying to have a pc. i have a i5 9600k, asus tuff gaming z390 pro motherboard, 16 gigs of g skill aegis 3200 ram, and a deep cool tesseract case. ive paid probably about a total of $250 for all the parts. A family member gave me the pc case for free and it turned out to be an atx case so thats great. ive been trying to get a psu, gpu and an ssd with windows. but ive gotten horrific luck with buying anything. I dont know where to go from here. not to mention i just dont have the money
@Hazzmati first i bought a 1tb nvme ssd and got sent a sata ssd. so i returned that. then i got a corsair HX850i but the seller didnt include the cpu and motherboard cables. then i tried buying a fully complete pc (to take the gpu out) but then the seller tried begging for extra money from me even though i won the auction. so i tried again on a different pc, the seller manually removed my bid and closed the auction. so i tried for a 3 time and bought a "sealed" ibuypower system that was claimed to have a gtx 1660 super in it. well the seller had opened the box took out the 1660 super and threw in a gt 710. no im not kidding, the seller literally did that. so i returned all those items. all of this happened within the last 30 days. (yes this was all on ebay and its cause im broke and cant afford new stuff for retail price) im beyond stressed and tired of it all. tempted to just sell the parts i have and give up on video editing.
@@LostHope... I am really sorry to hear that man that is really some bad luck. I don't know where you live atm but I would try getting a budget ssd and psu from a regular store so you're not dependent on third party vendors. Sata ssd's are really cheap now such as the mx500 for example, for psu's I can't say directly because it depends on the area where you live. In the meantime your 9600k has an integrated graphics so you can technically use that before you find a dedicated graphics card.
I dont think a.m.d. will be quaking in their boots. The ryzen 5xxx chips run on much older boards which are in huge supply and comparatively cheap. In fact, my buddy is just thinking about upgrading his 1700x on his asrock x370 board, they already do a bios for 5xxx. He was foresighted enough to use 3200 cas14 ram, so that is not a problem. A.M.D. are still selling everything they make. Intel will have to unlock everything on B660 and all cpu's before I would even be tempted. I am never fooled with the transfer of pricing to the boards either, the cheapest B660 ATX board I would use is £168 today and I also have doubts about intel getting more single thread performance out of the next compatible cpu's. Basically its a dead platform already. With cache stacked am 4 chips coming and am 5 just around the corner this launch from intel is too little too late, and they already screwed over 11 series buyers.
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“This intel build should terrify amd “ proceeds to use an amd card
Considering your choices are NVIDIA or AMD, i'm not sure what you're implying?
wait for ARC lol
@@microtasker The point is, AMD is still laughing, as they got his money either way
An AMD GPU is called RADEON
@@kawaiidestruktor7809 Yeah , with Intel's CLOWN Raja Koduri, ARC will turn out to be an NAVI DISASTER all over again 😂 But first, ARC will be endlessly "delayded" !
Intel is an JOKE !
Should've went with only 1 stick of RAM, for the OEM immersion purpose 😂. Really enjoyed the vid Dawid, after a long day, it's really what I needed.
And don't forget to disable XMP for full OEM emulation.
Not even I am that much of a monster. 😂
And choke the cooling for the full OEM experience! 😄😄
Should have went with dreaded 6500xt :P It would be more of budget kind plus he could test it using full PCIe 4.0 power.
The OEM experience
Glad to see Intel's value proposition that started with the 10th gen i3 keep going and spread into the i5s!
For sure! And it seems like the 12th gen i3s are also really amazing.
Still happy with my budget 10th gen i3 here, but this is AWESOME to see out of the 12th gen!
@@jjthehoser762 I really like my i3 too. Only 4 cores which I failed to notice when buying, but very impressed. I have it paired with a GTX 1050 and it does fine on older titles and less demanding ones like Rocket League.
@@johnbob4545 sounds similar to me - have an old RX570 with my i3. Won’t ever be high end but for Rocket League and Fortnite it’s plenty for me!
10th gen i5-10400 was also good budget options. Even buying new it can be had for a good price, but occassionly there's eBay discounts and it becomes a great deal, only slightly more expensive than the i3.
12th gen i3 has a surprising high uplift in performance over the 10th gen.
The cooler is indeed an issue for the new socket. I upgraded a friend's pc and we chose the Noctua D15. Surprisingly the lga1700 kit was in the box but due to the misleading information on the seller's website we already proceeded to ordering the kit. What happened to you is that you received an older revision of the product (pre lga1700 ready). The new revisions have it included, Amazon updated the description accordingly but kept selling the older batch that they already had in stock
That’s definitely what happened. Wow surprised it happened the other way around for you.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff me and my friend were shocked too, as it was nearly impossible to find an lga1700 kit in stock, we had to make an order and it would arrive in 4-5 days after. We immediatly canceled the order once we found the kit inside the box
Edit: also we were in a rush so asking Noctua for a FREE kit was out of the question
@Schobe-wan Kenobi actually I didn't have any options at that moment, most budget friendly brands didn't had the lga1700 kits released yet. At the price of the D15 I would have been able to buy a SilentiumPc 360 liquid cooler so...
@Schobe-wan Kenobi yes it's an aio, excellent price/quality ratio. They have big tdp support and have been using this brand for more than 6 years. I built several pcs using their air coolers and they didn't fail in delivering. I still own a i5 6600k that is overclocked to 4.8ghz and it's cooled by the Fera 3, does the job amazingly, the cpu rarely hits 80 degrees (just spikes when the rendering restarts) on cinebench r23 stress test
Even though I have zero need for the services provided by Linode, you make me want to give them money anyway.
really?
Haha!! Maybe one day.
I'm happy with the raw cpu performance of my i5-12400, i just wish that the RX 6600 XT didn't cost as much as the entire rest of the build just by itself 😭
Have you not been paying attention to the pre-builts you've been reviewing? You only need a single stick of RAM. Unbelievable
Tf is wrong with having 2 sticks?
2x8gb is literally the same price as 1x16, so.. why not??
@@meepy2366 Humour is hard.
@@jontebos7290 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff
Single stick config makes esne for budget prebuilts with 8g RAM and 2 RAM slots.
but the prebuilts on letgo are way better
Can we all take time to appreciate the work this man is doing to entertain us. Wow man, thank you so much 😄.
Comments like this just make me cringe
Careful, you'll unleash his inner ego.
@@merhababizden can't we appreciate the hard work he is putting in
@@Geniusinventor No actual disrespect to you it just has the same template as those annoying comment bots
@@merhababizden ehh
I was slightly impressed when I first saw the cooler because I thought the whole thing was just a hunk of aluminum. When Dawid pointed out the the top part is just plastic, I was like "ah, I should've known. How foolish of me to assume they'd spend slightly more for an actually decent cooler." AMD is definitely more generous with providing a proper stock solution.
same here imagined that intel actually tried. then to find out is just a Façade
@rtrd First of all, there's no need for name calling. Secondly, you're right. The temps are fine right now, but wait till summer when it's 90°+ outside. If you're sitting in your room playing all day, do you really think it'll be hovering around 65° inside that caseafter a 2 or 3 hour gaming session? I mean it's possible if he has the AC cranked up all day but let's be real. When I mentioned that AMD offers a better stock solution, I was referring to their spire and wraith coolers. That's not to say they don't have a garbage one as well known as the stealth. But at least they offer 2 other options instead of none at all.
the cooler i got for 3600, and 5600x was terrible. And my 3600 was very warm, and the mobos bios was reving the rpms up and down all the time, making the fan sound wWiiiiiiiiowooooowiiiiiiiiiiwooooooowiiiiiwooo all the time.
I know there is a huge aftermarket for cooling and that makes sense when overclocking, but if you're in a room with a reasonable temperature and have typical airflow these stock fans are fine--which is exactly why intel includes them. It would cost Intel a trivial amount to make a larger heatsink, but they clearly do not believe it's needed.
Would an AIO be needed for this Intel CPU with a better GPU, and I’m guessing the 12600k definitely does?
My ancient ivy bridge system with an i7-3770s is still trucking along surprisingly well for now. This is probably the kind of system I'll upgrade to in a year or two, once components are on clearance or readily available used.
Nice video Dawid. Just 2 little details. The stock cooler has improved again. They brought the copper slug in the center back. Starting with Haswell, Intel stock coolers were purely made from aluminium. Right until the last generation. And about the cooler compability on LGA 1700. Some aftermarket coolers will fit in theory. The solution from ASUS is nice but dangerrous. Since LGA1700 has a thinner substrate than previous generations, many air cooler either won't make proper contact or there will be the danger that mount gets overtightened and the socket, mainboard pcb and even CPU could be damaged. Happens mostly with entry level coolers. That is why ASUS only does it on the high end boards. Watercoolers and simular high end cooling solutions usually don't have this problem.
The CPU Cooler availability is a real problem at the moment. I had to get NZXT to ship me the LGA 1700 mounting bracket (for free), but they did take their time with it. I had to follow up several times to move my order through. Definitely held up my build for a while.
The mounting hardware on the Noctua U12S Redux had the blue caps for LGA1700 in my recent build but I was building on 1200 still. Interesting to see these pains on the new gen wonder if they had issues communicating with manufacturers what the finalized chipset would be or something
Well if you're using one of their GPUs for the Intel build, I don't think it will terrify AMD.
In all fairness the GPU is the least compelling part of this build. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff
The GPU (almost) costs more than the other parts combined.
*400 i5-s were always good picks for budget builds ever since the 9th gen.
I think the 5600X has a disadvantage with being installing on an alienware extracted PCB ,CB scores are about 5-600 less for MT than they should be, and ST 20-30 below...But i guess the 5600X has gotten the Dell virus equivalent of Covid or lost it's will to work properly being depressed in an alienware housing.
I did also think that, so I retested the same setup using a motherboard that isn’t full of Dell virus (Asus B550 Tuf Board) and I got the same results.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You can get the AMD in the Dell, but you can't get the Dell out of the AMD.. it appears that the cpu has been a victim of... Dellgradation o.O
@@DawidDoesTechStuff But on a more serious note, it might also be Dell buying lower binned cpu's for their systems as a cost saving measure, company profit you know :p
@@bafon Sounds like a stretch, intel lineup is just superior this generation.
Also i kind of like the front aesthetic on that XPG case, and it looks like they at least followed the most important rule and gave it mesh for some solid airflow
Considering that the cooler spacers for the Alder Lake chips are shorter than the prior series chips then using the old hardware on a board that has the extra holes drilled still will not give you the proper pressure on the cpu for cooling.
Much better to get the right hardware for your cooler.
I ordered a Noctua nh-d15 cooler around the first of January 2022 and it did include the mounting hardware for the LGA 1700 socket in the retail package.
That's for this. This is pretty much the system I want to get at some point this year 3060ti /6600xt. Really good point with the coolers! I will definitely keep that in mind when getting one!
@@AntiFurry927 check the reviews online. It very much is.
Dude,since 10100f the sub 100€ segment and 10400f on the 130-160€ segment, there is nothing equivalent by AMD.
But Intel motherboards are 40% more expensive
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 not really. Here in Germany you can find h410 and h510 from 55-65€ respectively. Yeah its not the best chipset,but is more than enough for a 10100f or 10105f. I just build one 10105f with an asrock h510 board. They went for 135€ BOTH. There is nothing even close here by amd.
@@TheGoatBeats he's right the Intel motherboards are like nearly 30-40% more expensive,those crappy h410 h610, are limited to pcie 3.0
@@Lennox032 of course they are,but that is no problem since in every of my cases i had gtx 1070-1660S-1060 which are all very decent in combination with the F series. Pcie4 for what with budget builds? Crappy rx 6500 64bit buffer 2gb card with insane pricing? B560 and b550 motherboards are in the same ballpark. The cheapest 520 costs 50€ and the cheapest 510 costs 56€. The cheapest 550 is at 70€ and the cheapest 560 is 83€.
Ryzen 5600g is the cheapest cpu if you go for budget gaming at 205€. So the cheapest amd gaming mobo/cpu goes for 275€ while intels cheapest offer that can actually play games with a discrete gpu goes for 159€ with 550 and 560 chipset respectively. Of course the 5600g is better that 10105f due to core count etc BUT if you go for Budget…look at the price difference. 159€ vs 275€ . Keep in perspective that im referring to the budget segment. With the price difference between intel and amd you can get ram/ssd and still not reach the 275€ mark. No offense intended here.
@@TheGoatBeats you make a fair point, Prices are a little different here in the UK, but AMD has some catching up in the budget price segment their prices need to come down a bit. The Ryzen 3 3100-3300x are non existent and if available priced too high.
Yea I wouldn't really trust cpu benchmarks in a Alienware pre-built
I am too lazy to build my own PC, while Dawid is out there building PCs like he's Gateway in 1999
I hope his doesn't catch on fire like theirs did...
Doing a 12700K DDR5 upgrade build for my friend soon, super excited! It will be my first time working with Intel and DDR5 of course.
What keyboard is that?
I usually watch videos at double speed because studying for the bar exam broke me on a fundamental level. Today is the first time I heard the opening jingle and realized it was a little funky and not super bouncy and upbeat.
I’d like to see these two run with SAM on for the AMD card and CPU. SAM can give you significant amount performance in some games. Either well that intel is pretty impressive
Having support for older mounting holes should be more common. On AM4 it was a rare sight and I can't remember other boards having also AM3 holes than Crosshair VI Hero.
Finally a realistic build with the 12400f. And it does perform pretty well for the price, just need to have the motherboard prices calm down a bit. I'm planning to get one of these to finally upgrade from my 4th gen Intel that still kick but to this day. Great video
I came up with the following for my $1000 12 gen intel parts list. Very similar, I just like the i3 as the budget king. Assuming you were able to get the z690 board cheaply as that is the biggest difference:
i3 12100f
Deepcool Gammax 400 Cooler
Asus Prime B660 Plus ATX mobo
Team T-Force Vulcan 16GB 3200 RAM kit
WD SN-570 M.2 1TB NVME SSD
Gigabyte RX 6600 Eagle
Corsair cxm 550w PSU
Zalman S3 ATX case
I ordered an Enermax cooler off amazon for my 1700 socket. Said it was compatible but did not come with the correct hardware. Instead I used the AMD screw and nut combination and lines it up the best I could. I think im just gonna get an AIO now for it. Would be cool to see some reviews on the 1700 socketed coolers
Dawid, no joking I’m currently building my first PC with an LGA-1700 socket. Ordered the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo and it lists the socket compatibility. But alas! It doesn’t come with the correct mounting so I’m now waiting until Friday for a $7 bracket.
Did a build for just trying out stuff recently with the Gigabyte Z690M DS3H DDR4, which cost only 139 € here. and the i5 12500.
Went pretty well but the Intel cooler proved to be way too weak. 10 minutes in Cinebench R23 and the CPU hit 100 degress at 23 degrees ambient. Creepy to think that this cooler is also shipped with the 12600 non k which puts another 200 Mhz on the clock.
(and yes i checked whether it was properly mounted.)
Hey, did you face any bios issues on gigabyte motherboard? I mean RAM or SSD not detecting? Was it necessary to flash new bios or something like that
Intel really shines with its new 12gen processors. Even though AMD boards are a little cheaper, the only comparable price to value ratio from AMD right now is the Ryzen 5 5600g, and the problem with that CPU is that it doesn't support PCIe gen 4.
even the i3 12th Gen surprised me with its performance 👏
I like the mention of MB prices, but would be better to get a "package" price for CPU+MoBo for comparison. That way we get ot see the real difference between platforms and gain more information about the value of each.
Considering we are a quarter away from the 7000-series, I don't think AMD is worried.
Apparently some LGA 1200 coolers dont get proper mounting pressure with the ASUS boards that have 1200/1700 mounting holes. I have a TUF h670 with a deep cool gammax GT and had no issues though.
I wonder how long before the 6600XT is at MSRP and then how long after that you get the first $50+ sale that makes it worth buying.
You're thinking of the 6500XT, that one's crap. The 6600 and 6600XT are good and will only get to MSRP when the rest of the GPU industry does.
@@lewzealand4717 the 6600Xt was about 40% above MSRP but seems to have settled at about 20% above MSRP at the moment not sure if that will drop further but seems to have stabilised for now however a 3060 is still about 70% above MSRP and a 6600xt is way better assuming you don't want Raytracing or DLSS.
@@mixit2413 Where the hell do you see it 20% above MSRP? I see it for a min of maybe $510 which is 32% above MSRP. Same with the 6600 at $430, 30% above MSRP
@@sawyerbass4661 sorry UK it is, US have weird pricing right now but in the UK 6600xt is 450 and 6600 is 400 i have found the 6600xt in the us for 470 you have to keep looking though and prices do bounce around.
@@mixit2413 I guess this makes some sense since the U.S still has the tariffs. It does seem to be a good sign that they are getting that close. I've been checking Newegg and Microcenter regularly for a month and the 6600 has been $429 twice for a very short time and the 6600XT was $499 once for a very short time too. But if I take the weekly average for the lowest ones it's at least $440 and $509
What is the program you use to get the cpu/gpu usage percentages? The one with the orange lettering in the upper left. I want to see what's bottlenecking my system when I game.
Great video!
I was thinking of the family from the X-Files episode "Home" when you showed that cooler.
Aah, I'm happy that Intel didn't change its cooler's sound signature, even if they added the much needed RGB they made sure it still sounds like a wailing welsh woman
I bought the regular non-F version a couple of weeks ago, and I can't wait to build a new system with it at the end of the month when my college schedule isn't so chaotic with constant assignments! Hahaha. Anyhow, going from an i5-9600K to an i5-12400 should be a nice upgrade for me! Especially since my 9600K's lack of Hyper-threading is only becoming more and more noticeable as time goes on. 😅
When you already have 6 real cores I'm not sure hyper-threading helps much, and the speed hike from a 9600K to 12400 is only about 25%, so I'm not sure I'd call that a huge upgrade...
@@d2factotum It won't be an enormous difference, but it'll certainly be a decent performance gain! Like, when considering the L3 cache, going from 9 to 18mb of L3 will be very helpful in CPU heavy games like Assetto Corsa Competizione, which puts my 9600K on its knees due to the lack of Hyper-threading and relatively low L3 cache by today's standard. I mean, even the i3 12100 has more L3 cache than my 9600K, so I feel its a good time to upgrade. Plus, I'd rather upgrade now while I can still sell my 9600K on the used market and make a decent profit from it. 9600K's will obviously not be worth as much in a year from now as what they are today. It's not a bad CPU, but ultimately, I upgraded to the i5-12400 because I want the peace of mind of being on a platform that'll easily last me the next two and a half to three years. Not to mention, outside of gaming, the extra performance of the 12400 will make general desktop use much snappier. I don't know if it's an issue with my 9600K specifically, but it handles Windows 11 horribly. Gaming performance on Windows 11 with my 9600K is a nice improvement over what I experienced on Windows 10 (especially regarding connection stability in multiplayer racing games), but general desktop use feels like I'm on a Sandy Bridge Pentium with a learning disability. Oh, and I have my Windows install on an NVMe SSD, so the storage device I'm using is not the problem. So, hopefully, with the higher L3 cache and Hyper-threading of the 12400, it'll make the general desktop use of my PC a bit smoother. If it doesn't, then it likely means my Windows installation is corrupt and I'll have to start fresh with a clean copy. I hope that's not the case since, with my online college classes, I can't afford to have my PC out of commission for multiple days. Combine downloading and installing a fresh copy of Windows 11, optimizing my install for the best performance possible, as well as downloading and installing all my games and applications on an internet connection that feels like it came straight from 2005, it's no exaggeration when I say installing a fresh copy of Windows 11 would be a week long project. It's taken that long in the past! 😅😭
@@doabrad1850 Fair enough. I guess I tend not to bother upgrading my CPU until I've actually got something that doesn't perform well, which means I tend to have much greater jumps in performance--last jump was from an Athlon 860K to a Ryzen 2600, for instance, which is something like a 75% boost (more, for anything that uses more than four cores).
Just because the CPU is lower in price, the motherboard cost eats ups the savings. Top that with the lack of cooling options and I will stick with my 5600x and x570 setup. Also note, with the appropriate settings, the 6600xt will game well in 1440p and many titles in 4k.
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Stock cooler looks nice. I'm disappointed that the outer shroud is just decorative plastic though, I was hoping it'd actually be functional.
Building a gaming PC right now as I haven't had a new PC since 2008.. Still running an Intel Core 2 Duo and a GTX 550Ti... I Have everything for my new PC except a GPU (Got a 5600x and an Asus B550-F MB with 64GB of Gskill RGB Neo).. Gonna be biting the bullet and shelling over like $1500 for an RTX 3070 over the next couple weeks. It's gonna hurt but I'll get over it eventually.
Went for a 12500 myself, along with a MSI Z690-P PRO DDR4 and some RipjawsV 4x8 GSkill 3600 RAM. For some stupid reason this mbo doesn't boot with XMP enabled and all 4 RAM sticks installed, so I am on 3x8 until BIOS update comes out, but other than that, man - this 12 series is really something else and well worth spending your money.
G'day Dawid,
The only Intel CPU that works out cheaper than an AMD when in a Combo is the i3-12100-12300, That is only because we don't have any AMD R3 CPUs,
if you go i5/i7/i9 when you factor in a Motherboard while an AMD B450 $89AUD A520 & B550 $99AUD, X570 $179AUD for Intel even a H610 is $179AUD, B660 $209AUD & Z690 $319AUD
Because of the messed up market got a acer nitro 50 with 11400f and 3060ti. Dual channel 16gb with a small light case. Only thing is it only has one outtake fan because they just swapped the 1650 model that had a 10400f with an 11400f and 3060ti. Runs 80c max so still not too bad but it needs one more intake😭
I have the same CPU (also the same cooler), GPU and same amount of RAM, so pretty much the same system, but my temperatures are bad, really different compared to the system shown in the video. Any idea or solution to this?
How much in cost
This is the most insanely good cpu for $200 new maybe ever.
That mounting holes for LGA1700... It's like 1.5mm difference! Cmon intel!
AMD better shape the heck up Dawid! First they launch the terrifyingly inept 6500xt, and now intel beats them on price AND performance?! With new GPUs on the way?!
Fingers crossed AMD pulls through with their new architecture and the graphics card bubble falls flat. We need more competition for us peons to benefit!
The 'inept' 6500xt is actually available, at retail price of 269.00. With a pcie 4.0 slot, it's a decent 1080p card.
Also hopefully AMD does with AM5 what they did with AM4 because that would add a lot of value to their motherboards.
@@DerekDavis213 6500xt loses to its predecessor 🤣 5500xt
@@joelcrafter43 goodluck getting ddr5 when am5 got released
@@kev1310 Can you buy the predecessor, 5500xt, today at a reasonable price? No?
Then 6500 xt is a good buy at $269 !!
An Alienware desktop can be great. My Alienware is the product that drove me to finally build my own. Thanks Dell!!!
hey can i ask is it good to go with i5 12400f with radeon rx 6500xt?
Howdy ho David can you please tell me what wallpaper of planet was on the elite monitor and on the wall?? Nice Great video as always!
Unfortunately, I don't see AMD lowering prices despite being handily outclassed in value with Alder Lake. There are so many people with AM4 boards still on Zen+ or Zen 2, and it would still be cheaper for them to pay extra for Zen 3 if it means not switching out their whole platform.
AMD is still the value choice because of motherboard pricing.
@@alexfrey4828 also amd coolers are still much better for budget options.
@@alexfrey4828 B660 boards are out. Right now, some are hard to find and some are too expensive, but there are good $120-$140 options out there. They'll also get cheaper and more available in the coming weeks and months.
@@DrearierSpider1 150€ for cheapest reasonable b660 here and 100€ for equivalent quality or better B550.
8:03 Maybe Intel will use the same *INSANE* pricing scheme of good availability and sales when the Unicorn herd of Arc GPUs come out? Talk about blowing minds! Edit: 8:22 Aha! Great minds think alike!
I think It would be interesting if you tested the new Intel stock cooler on the higher end new Intel CPU’s.
hi dawid,
is 11600k+rx6600xt at b560 board good?
running 11600k cause more power for small amont of money that 11600 and i won't overclock it.
Dang, that 12th gen CPU just having a tiny sip at the watts and pounding out great results. Be interesting to see it paired with a beast mode GPU to see if that new stock cooler causes a melt down or at least prevents thermal throttling.
Why does that song from the build montage remind me of Flying by the Beatles lol
What do you use to have your cpu temp on the screen
Ryzen's Cinebench R20 results are too low. I assume due to no PBO possible on Alienware?
Yes Linoooode!! Do you actually get sponsored by them still or do you just do it to satisfy all your fans lol... so great!! :)
Oh and i loved the detour through the gulag part.... where do you come up with this stuff... absolutely brilliant :)
Kind of seems like a waste of a z690 motherboard feature set if you dont blck overclock the locked chips. Which honestly makes the value grow of the 12th gen chips. But that depends if the board has the clock gen
An i5 12400 is a better idea, you never know when you are going to need a display output without the GPU... and the price is basically the same just like the performance.
1200 vs 1700 is NOT the holes.. its the Studs are 1mm shorter. You can mount a LGA1200 on a 1700 motherboard.. It WILL look like it fits, and feel like it too. BUT your processor will overheat and spike. WHY are all the tech channels missing this. I ran into this months ago mounting my 12700KF with an Artic Freeze, NXT Kracken and a Noctua air cooler. I got all three mounting kits and it was the studs that were the big issue.. !!!
what storage ssd is being used??pcie grn 3 or 4??
What is the software you use to record fps and temperatures?
Kinda weird taking a 200$ board with a 170$-ish CPU and then using the stock cooler. It would have been better saving that cost/use that money somewhere else inside of the PC
I think it might have been an excuse to look at the new Intel stock cooler and see how it performs.
Dawid what do you do these builds after the videos? btx your cable management is so good !!
I'm still wondering if you have any thoughts about Windows 11.
Here's mine. The new start menu is a huge step backwards and I have heard of no knew feature that would make me risk my oldest programs not running just to get rounded window corners and centered task bar that's ripped off from the Mac. It's a mute question as my four year old hardware can't run it, and no I definitely don't want to trick my computer into running it.
Windows 11? Hell naw, still using 7
I have the exact build runing this CPU along with a 6600 XT and 32 gigs of Ram. This thing is a monster and keeping me very happy at 1080p gaming could care less about 4k or Ray tracing
Ty
playing 10 year old games on "high and "low settings like the video too? that is not good son.
@@mentalasylumescapee6389 I mean im not I am playing Cyberpunk without ray tracing getting on average 60-75 fps with Ultra/high on everything.
@@WolfsOcean i'm not a cyberspunker either.
i just don't don't think this build is good at all, not for last gen games, not this gen, not next gen.
names like "beast" or "monster", i wouldn't even call my system that and i have:
i7 10700k
rtx 3080
MSI MPG z490 gaming plus mobo
g-skill ripjaws 16gb DDR4 3200mhz
NVME 1 tb, 3x samsung EVO 500gb SSD's
850W 80 plus gold rated modularPSU (cooler master)
....
my monitor is the only thing i would say is worth calling any unworldly name, i'm only just getting used to it after a week running:
samsung odyssey g9 neo 49" (totally love it :)))
@@mentalasylumescapee6389 I mean than your wrong I could easily send you screen shots if you want on many websites that show how my machine can handle any current gen game at make/ultra settings. Again the Key is Ray Tracing With Ray Tracing on it def Slows down alot at ultra setttings.
For example cyberpunk at ultra with ray traycing i get 20-30FPS without it at 1080p I easily go up to 60-70 FPs on average 64.3 FPS.
You gotta understand Vaule Vs Performance. Your build is def bettter than mine im not going to argue that one. The only thing my build has over yours is im running 32 gigs of DDR4 Ram vs 16 gigs.
Your build will def last you at least another five yeras you take care of it correctly. Games coming out for the PS5 and newiest XBOX will not need a stronger CPU than the one in this video I can dam well tell you that.
I have a similar build that I ordered yesterday! Im super excited as this will be my first pc :3
I'd change the RBG color to green and weave some artificial ivory leaves around the edges of that front lattice of the case ;)
Love my 500dx case. So much airflow. Everything overclocked and GPU or CPU never goes above 70
what is the software that you use to check your fps and temps?
is it possible to unlock the 117w mode on the 12400f on a b660?
I like how Intel cpus are more in stock then the AMD cpus
In my country AMD chips have been well in stock for at least past 3 months.
also love how people said "amd has more bang for the buck" that claim has aged like milk
@@mrducky179 1 generation. 1. And it took Intel 3 years to return to competitiveness. So yes, AMD until this point has had more bang for buck.
@@mrducky179 It really hasn't though. As explained in the video, to even use this CPU, you have to get a fairly expensive motherboard just to use it. This essentially negates the low price of the Intel CPU as you're paying more overall. If you go with an AMD CPU not only, are you getting a good CPU for a low price, you're also not paying for an expensive motherboard. Though although this is a budget CPU, this is more so a high-end budget build. At the lower end, AMD still beats Intel in price to performance.
I'm sure LGA1700 boards will get cheaper as time goes on, but that doesn't make AMD's CPUs any worse. In conclusion, you saying that AMD CPUs are no longer a good deal is still wrong regardless. Both are good CPUs, no need to bash the other just because you like one better than the other.
I love how Intel fans are really loud for the 5 minutes Intel is competitive after years of not being able to talk 😂
With that u9i just hit up there shop or tech support and they will most likely send u out mounting hardware. Damn it I paused the video to right this coming the scene before he plopped down the 17xx mounting bracket box. That’s my bad
Aren't the new Intel graphics cards either on or about to be on the market? Love to see an all Intel build vs an all AMD build
CPU prices are dropping, I just paid $200 for an AMD 5600G boxed with the cooler.
Microcenter deal?
That’s a great APU at a great price! 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff just wanted to say! Loved this video man!
@@PCsandEVs Thanks Warman! 😁
@@PCsandEVs Yessir! Microcenter, went there yesterday.
what did u have the cpu speed at?
David I'm so happy you didnt whisper Lenode at me this time. Last time I only had 1 earphone in and it felt like you were whispering in my ear. I could almost feel you over my shoulder and it really creeped me out. Confusing arousal is awkward to deal with in public. This was better thanks! 🤣🤣
What was your room temperature while testing?
My build has a i5 10400F and GTX 1080 TI with 16gb ddr4 2666mhz ram and a m.2 ssd. Not bad at all, although some parts are getting old, like the GPU, but I got it for a bargain over a year ago so that is why I have it.
Can u OC a non k CPU with every Z690 motherboard? I saw Der8auer doing it with a Strix board and I’m hoping for other brands to put the same feature in their motherboards.
Should I go for 2400mhz cl 16 or 2666mhz cl 19
I am using 2 sticks of 8gb
Dawid, why don't you choose a B660 mobo something like MSI MAG B660M Mortar WiFi DDR4?
Intel 12th gen CPU's are great other than the cooler situation for sure. 6600XT ain't that bad either IF you can get one of the cheaper ones I've seen (Asus Dual, Sapphire Pulse) but the Powercolor and Asrock ones I've seen are crazy expensive for what they are.
I don’t understand why they had to change the cpu cooler mounting?
Another grand video lad, now it was the first time listening to you via Dobly Atmos with 'Voice' profile enabled, next level ASMR goodness says I, keep it up lad, as you'll be keepin' me up all night with that Ryzen 5600X running those frames good n' hot like ^^
A puppy dies every time Dawid does a Linode ad and pronounces the OS as “LINE - UX” instead of “LIN - UX”…
That's good if you're a crazy lefty. I read the other day, that dog shit is horrible for the environment (think cows and Methane gas).
ive made 5 purchases in a row trying to get a pc going. But all 5 have gone wrong so im kinda just done trying to have a pc. i have a i5 9600k, asus tuff gaming z390 pro motherboard, 16 gigs of g skill aegis 3200 ram, and a deep cool tesseract case. ive paid probably about a total of $250 for all the parts. A family member gave me the pc case for free and it turned out to be an atx case so thats great. ive been trying to get a psu, gpu and an ssd with windows. but ive gotten horrific luck with buying anything. I dont know where to go from here. not to mention i just dont have the money
What do you mean dude, what went wrong? In what way did you have horrific luck?
@Hazzmati first i bought a 1tb nvme ssd and got sent a sata ssd. so i returned that. then i got a corsair HX850i but the seller didnt include the cpu and motherboard cables.
then i tried buying a fully complete pc (to take the gpu out) but then the seller tried begging for extra money from me even though i won the auction. so i tried again on a different pc, the seller manually removed my bid and closed the auction. so i tried for a 3 time and bought a "sealed" ibuypower system that was claimed to have a gtx 1660 super in it. well the seller had opened the box took out the 1660 super and threw in a gt 710. no im not kidding, the seller literally did that. so i returned all those items. all of this happened within the last 30 days. (yes this was all on ebay and its cause im broke and cant afford new stuff for retail price) im beyond stressed and tired of it all. tempted to just sell the parts i have and give up on video editing.
@@LostHope... I am really sorry to hear that man that is really some bad luck. I don't know where you live atm but I would try getting a budget ssd and psu from a regular store so you're not dependent on third party vendors. Sata ssd's are really cheap now such as the mx500 for example, for psu's I can't say directly because it depends on the area where you live. In the meantime your 9600k has an integrated graphics so you can technically use that before you find a dedicated graphics card.
my friend is building a new Intel rig... they've found everything except the graphics card
This is really bad CB20 performance for the 5600x.
In other Benchmarks online it seems to Hit about 4500 - 4700.
'Unsheath it and put it to work'
Now I feel dirty.
(thank you)
I can't believe Intel made a fake plastic extension on the cooler that looks like it's heatsink....
I dont think a.m.d. will be quaking in their boots.
The ryzen 5xxx chips run on much older boards which are in huge supply and comparatively cheap.
In fact, my buddy is just thinking about upgrading his 1700x on his asrock x370 board, they already do a bios for 5xxx.
He was foresighted enough to use 3200 cas14 ram, so that is not a problem.
A.M.D. are still selling everything they make.
Intel will have to unlock everything on B660 and all cpu's before I would even be tempted.
I am never fooled with the transfer of pricing to the boards either, the cheapest B660 ATX board I would use is £168 today and I also have doubts about intel getting more single thread performance out of the next compatible cpu's.
Basically its a dead platform already.
With cache stacked am 4 chips coming and am 5 just around the corner this launch from intel is too little too late, and they already screwed over 11 series buyers.