Build Using World's First "Real" Desktop 8-Core CPU In 2022? Ft. BeQuiet
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For those of you saying that the FX 8150 was the worlds first 8 core desktop CPU, I’m not sure I agree. AMD redefined what they meant by core so that they could market it as an 8 core. They are like loser cut down cores. So I feel like the 5960x is the first “real” 8 core desktop CPU. Let me know what you think.
The real 8 core desktop CPU was the Xeon E5-1680v2
That's what I was thinking that the FX CPUs were the first 8 core CPUs released in 2011. However the CPU that my gaming desktop has is only a 6 core cpu, but it's a more recent Intel Core i7-6800K CPU. Also was able to overclock it to 4.3 GHz.
By your logic, the Intel 12900K isn't a 16-core because it has 8 loser cores. The 8120 released 3 years earlier and was already an 8-core. Performance was lower than the contemporary Intel chips because of Hyper Threading.
My response got deleted due to a link? Well amd did indeed offer money back in a settlement for falsely advertising their bulldozer etc cpus
Truth, I got money back years later from amd for my fx 8350.
I wish we knew who sponsored this build. I would like to purchase some of these parts.
The sponsor is obviously Linode!
it's gotta be honey or *GLASSWIRE!* right?
I know I wish he'd tell us who his sponsors are. I don't know why he's so needlessly cryptic.
I really should have made it more clear.
@@fred_derf linooooooode
Funny that both you and The Good Old Gamer are doing 5960X content at the exact same time. Now the first person to do a Core i7 6950X + RX 6950 XT build wins the PC meme wars.
Honestly at 4k it would probably do quite well given the cpu overclock he got here.
Thats cool, but deep down you know the 6900K + 6900XT is far cooler
@@lucofski1296 Don't think that cpu exists
Or not, Broadwell-E was Intel's first gen 14nm process and supposedly doesn't OC all that well. 5960X is the last gen of 22nm and well understood by that point.
@@manspeej it sure does
Core i7 6900k -> 8c16T 2011-3
Basically the follow up CPU to the 5960x
I love how 90% of 'upgrade a prebuilt' videos essentially boil down to 'build a new PC with maybe one part from the original.'
Kept the original GPU for a little while and the RAM for a bit longer. I would expect Windows to want to be re-activated.
@@wayland7150 i always saved my windows keys before switching. but i never got asked to reaktivate even after swaping ALL of my parts (i kept my boot ssd). and then i replaced windows with arch linux.
@@AIC_onyt If you change the motherboard Windows does need reactivating.
@@wayland7150 no it does not
@@BlackCat-dx5qi It's happened to me twice.
The actual performance gain in FPS was not due to the amount of RAM but the RGB on it
That is the only explanation.
Yes
Never seen this joke about RGB before. Other than literally every RGB joke ever made in all of history.
Funny to see my main CPU used as a "look what this ancient CPU can do in 2022" bit.
Same here.
It is a pretty boss CPU though :)
@@AnnaDoes could have been worse.
Looks like an awesome cpu tho!
Same fam 😂 used that and a gtx 750 for years
Dawid has become the only tech tuber I can stand to watch anymore. The great gpu famine revealed how uncreative the others were.
Fr fr
Yeah no kidding
optimumtech is very good
Well, it's not like Dawid didn't mostly just do "lol prebuilts amirite" or "oh god fake gpus". Delivery of all of the jokes and such is on-point tho.
Was a fan of LTT for the longest time but nearly every video of theirs now is just Linus house updates, Intel $5000 upgrades, and display reviews. Dawid is my new home now.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'd love to see BeQuiet! do a program like NZXT that includes everything you need to build a PC yourself or buy one prebuilt. I think they have the chops for it.
They just need to make motherboards tho
@@z4k1_zaki65 With 30mm silent wings 3 chipset fans LOL
Prebuilts might work, but it's quite a competition saturated market, from the giant OEMs like Dell or HP to the various third party marketplace "Gaming PCs", and of course the decent, custom ones from shops with actual expertise and relying on standard parts (with a perfectly linear scale of getting what you pay for). I don't know what's the point of having only all the parts available since people who build their own PCs component by component are quite particular about the parts they get, checking reviews and user feedback on more or less every one of them.
If Be Quiet sold a "Bring your own platform kit" that included a case, CPU cooler, PSU, and a couple of extra fans that provided a fully matched aesthetic at a bit of a discount they'd sell the crap out of it for sure
That’s a good idea. I wonder how hard it would be for them to source all that stuff.
Dawid: Today I'm going to upgrade this PC.
*builds a different PC instead*
Love it 😂
I mean, I did technically upgrade it. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff *technically
"I'm going to give this CPU a new home"
Just goes to show you that old hardware is far from obsolete. Everyone dismisses everything older than 2 years as old and useless, but even 10 year old flagship hardware can give you close to high end gaming experience even in 2022.
I had similar numbers and even close to 200 FPS in 1080p/Ultra with a i7 4790k/GTX 1080Ti in a lot of modern games and that's with DDR3 RAM (but really high frequency and better timings than most DDR4 - 2500Mhz CL11). Old but gold combo and costs peanuts in comparison. Beats 99% of "budget" builds by a long mile and costs the same or less. In fact it's still in upper midrange territory when it comes to performance numbers. Sure it can't keep up in productivity workloads with modern hardware but in gaming it kicks ass to this day.
I have almost identical but with an RX 580, still pretty good. ;-)
Very nice! Always been a fan of Be Quiet gear. They don't get enough credit in the modern world of loud unicorn puke shouting brands. I have a Dark Rock Pro 4 which not only has it's own gravitational pull, but it's also cool, quiet and looks amazing!
Same, and silent wings all over. Taking a picture with a coffee cup next to that cooler is a nice way to show it's size
@@Slamdoxicalz I just wish they sold the silent wings as triple packs like they do with the light wings! Buying 6 for the case fans at £20 each is a lot to ask!
I do like Be Quiet, I think my next build will primarily use their parts. I used mostly Cooler Master for my main PC, so I want to see what kind of difference there is.
The Dark Rock Pro 4 is my go-to for any system I build, it's just solid AF.
@@vailpcs4040 Cools my 5900X just fine. Looks sleek as hell too.
I know this is debatable but...AMD's FX-8120 and 8150 were the first two 8 core CPUs back in 2012. Sure, the cores shared some resources like the FPU, but they did have 8 cores, depending on what one classifies as a core.
either way there were in fact 8 cpu cores on the chip, sharing resources or not
Came here to say this. Also, there are 8 core Xeons on X79 like the E5-1680v2. Intel has had 8-cores available since Ivy Bridge which predates the 5960X and puts it in the same timeframe as the FX CPUs somewhat.
Glad someone else noticed this the fx series came out almost 2 years ahead of this I had a 9590 badass CPU just total power hog
AMD was sued for this and lost for misleading naming. So it's instead a "4 Module / 8 Thread" CPU. Used to have an FX-8320 at one point myself - meh for gaming, not too bad at compression and editing tho.
Wow! Be quiet is so good it even made the cpu more efficient! Making it only draw 1 watt whilst keeping a steady 4.8Ghz!!
They figured out the loophole to make it be quiet! 😂
love your vids, keep up the great work
I really love X99. My current main rig has an i7 6850K 6C/12T Broadwell-E matched with an RTX 3060 and 32GB RAM.
I have the same setup besides 16gb of ram, super solid!
That’s a nice system. It really is a great platform.
Used your code on epidemic sounds and immediately feel way better about the videos I’m working on thanks for that team up hope you got a good cut
That BeQuiet! case is excellent. I used a white one for my own build, ran white housing fans on one ARGB circuit, kept the stock RGB's on their own...so now the whole case has dual zone lighting which is siiiiick lookin.
People still think loads of rgb makes a good pc cracks me up but dam bro your build is beautiful
rgb and o11 🤣
PC is PC bro, were all just here to enjoy the games init.
The fact this channel doesn't have millions of subs is quite surprising to me. Love this channel.
Also now that USB3 motherboard connectors are finally good they're nearing end of life with USBC. lol
Entertaining as always, Dawid. I think what’s left is to replace the mobo and cpu and you’re all set with using all applicable original parts
😅
love old platform builds! good video DAHVID
For everyone saying FX had the first 8 core: FX isn't really considered 8 core because each core shares resources with another core. It almost acts like a 4 core instead. (this is what I could find online after little researching, its a lot more complicated than this but still)
IIRC each pair of cores share one FPU which makes FX underperform in certain scenarios. AMD got into a lawsuit because of this.
I will come to your house and fight you.
@@controlthecontroller1918 Considering the years of very decent performance I got out of my FX after getting it at a fair price I felt a little guilty about the class action suit payment that I got lol.
Bad news - that means all modern CPUs are single core since they have a shared L3 cache. Or you also going to make the argument that a single Ryzen CCX is still a single core as well?
What about 16 "core" bulldozer-based opterons like a 6276?
Or sometihing like a xeon e7-2830.
WOW that was some high quality smoke and fire at the end🔥
Really came out looking sharp!
For a moment I thought you are talking about the bulldozer because It was theoretically the first 8 core cpu
No theoretically about it. The FX8120 was the first available.
@@utGort I mean the courts decided otherwise, lol. It was "8" core but only if you redefine a core 🤣
It was available first but it didn’t really have 8 real cores, just marketed ones.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff what defines a core? is the FPU's? ? if so, the first 1-2 core cpu's didnt even have 1 core (fpu's were seperate). In reality, it's the company that manufactures the CPU's that define what a core is. The lawsuit AMD lost, was in reality lost because the court used the INTEL's defination of what a core is. Remember, even INTELS 1-2 core CPU didnt have FPU at the begining (ie not a real core). Basicly the FX-series were among the first readily aviable 8core CPU's.
That’s because bulldozer is a power hungry dog doo doo processor that ran hotter than the sun. It was misleading as the cores shared resources. They were even sued over it and lost. I had one and hated it so much that I went to intel who at the time I hated also.
These components are still dream components
I agree! They are really awesome.
Greetings from France, very good content and good to see more Be Quiet materials, a very good brand ! keep up the good work :)
Cool that you used the 280 Pure Loop, I am actually going to swap/upgrade my current pc to a Pure Base 500dx and the pure loop 280 today. So now I know what it could look like
I was trying to record the process for before and after performance, just felt inspired by all the videos of yours ive been watching, and either I have no idea what im doing or its way more difficult than anticipated just to do proper benchmarking (probably both.)
I'd love to see you compare this to the 8-core Bulldozer CPUs from the same era! Perhaps pit it against the FX 9590!
Dawid has shown he has a limited tolerance for pain.
@@MoultrieGeek True, they do get quite hot! :D
@@randomexcessmemories4452 and slow. Anna might find him sobbing gently in a corner whispering "please finish this week" repeatedly.
Those Haswell X99 CPUs were overclocking beasts--and only pulling a watt! 🤣 I have the Broadwell-based 6900K and I can barely push it to 4.2GHZ
That's first gen 14nm for ya.
I could do 4.5ghz on my 6800x.
Nothing more.
Yeah but your 6900K shreds the 5960X clock for clock.
@@doesitgame uhm no? barely any IPC improvement from Haswell-e to Broadwell-e, it did make some AVX instruction run faster and have a better memory controller but it's just a die shrink anyway
@@rubenfasola5402 I literally have both…
That video was amazing, thanks dude.
I actually bought the Be-Quiet case and power supply thanks to your video. So far it is my favorite case ever and the Power supply was a good upgrade from my old one. Thanks again for the recommendation.
I had a 5960x running at 4.5ghz on a asrock x99 mini itx board from 2017 to late 2021, solid cpu if you run it at a good speed. This has been with a 980 ti, 1070 and 1080ti (since 2018/2019 I think)
I used one of that boards until I upgraded to Ryzen two years ago with a 5930k ocd to 4.2 GHz. only downside was the dual channel ram config whic was required due to the formfactor. I think I need to build that up again and fiddle with it a bit.
It is a great CPU. 👍
For sheer hilarity, somebody should do a head-to-head between Intel's 5960X and AMD's 5960X...
that perf to watt is unbeatable
Sorry, AMD doesn't have a 5960X..no hilarity!
@@Mr1Tanker oh yeah, I forgot Threadripper 5000 became Pro only in the end, so it's the 5965X.
Ah well...
What was the sponsor for this video? I think i overlooked it. :D
Good video as always!
Love the videos Dawid! Needs more RGB though 😉
I just failed my final test for the 5th time
Good luck on try number 6 and 69
@RESPECT 999 W MANS W MOTIVATION
Try cheating the 6th time🗿
I guess the main question is how many components do you change before its no longer the PC that you originally purchased, its like saying I have been using the same bush for 20 years I only replaced the brush 10 times and the handle 20 times XD
I'd say the motherboard replacement gets you pretty close. In the end what was kept from the original, the SSD? Then again, that is the joke.
The computer of Theseus
Thats a sick build you got!!
Awesome video Dawid. Loved it.
AMD FX 8xxx series were the first consumer 8 core CPUs, they came out in 2011/2012. Intel was years behind with this chip, which came out in 2014.
Should change the title to first intel 8 core
There was a lawsuit behind that. it wasn’t a true 8 core they were doing something funny with caches that made them not true cores.
I had one in 2013 and loved it
The FX line were not true 8 cores and AMD were sued over it. While they did have 8 x86 cores, they weren't separate cores like the 5960x. In the FX there are 4 modules of 2 cores each, and those cores on each module share a single branch prediction engine, a single instruction fetch and decode stage, a single floating-point math unit, a single cache controller, a single 64K L1 instruction cache, a single microcode ROM, and a single 2MB L2 cache.
ye ur right, but intel 8 cores "extreme" cpus are sick in terms of their performance even now. FX's are cool, but they are pretty weak rn, no matter how high u clock them. But still, ur right, AMD was first with consumer 8 cores. And i'm mad at amd cuz my r5 3600 dies on everything higher than 4.05GHz, no matter what voltage i give to it. Shitty silicon i guess. But i bought it used and it was pretty cheap so ye, guess that's the reason why it was cheap :v Still it was an good upgrade from my i5 4590.
Depending on your definion of a core the FX 8XXX and 9XXX where more like a like 4 core 8 Thread CPU really.
AMD marketed them as 4 Modules with 2 'Cores' each, however a module only had one shared Floating Point Unit, so depending on your defintion of which parts have to be present for something to be called it's own core it may not be a fully fletched 8-core.
You can see this in practice in Cinebench for example, the FX-8150's Multicore is just 5,9-6,0 times higher than it's single threaded performance; because not everything in a 2 'core' module is properly duplicated.
Now if we look at antother 8C/8T CPU - the I7-9700 which does have 8 cores but no hypertrhreading, the difference between Multicore and Singlecore performance is almost 7,5; despite having a a larger frequency increase when just one core is working instead of all 8 than the older FX CPU's had.
World's 1st desktop 8core cpu? Where is amd fx8150?
Seriously. The FX-8xxx series was launched in 2012. 2 years before the 5960.
Not a true 8 core. There was a lawsuit over this
My thoughts too.
This is now in my top three channels. Keep up the good work.
Hang on...are you telling me that if i replace 90% of my old pc parts with newer, better parts then my PC will perform better? Wow...does anyone else know about this?
Well the setup that Dawid created was what the system really should have been back in 2014-2016...not some Frankenstein China scraps bin with single channel ram. You would not have run a $500 HEDT chip like that back in 2015. Dawid's setup is correct.
First 8 core consumer was/is the AMD FX line. And before anyone brings up the AMD settlement understand that AMD's *choice* to settle does not imply they did anything wrong, and you need to thank them for the choice to settle. Fact is most people who understand CPU design understood that despite being different, controversial, and ultimately a commercial failure, AMD's FX line had in fact 8 ALU units. Pro Tip on CPU history, the ALU defined the first x86 CPU, and the now ubiquitous FPU that is more often used today was an add on chip. AMD's FX line, by the definitions of that, had 8 compute cores. AMD knew this, people who get CPU design knew this, but its *way* beyond the general consumer, the same one who then felt "wronged" that they only had 4 of the more useful FPU cores and not a full 8, and the 8 cores they did have went un-used or used in a less than optimal way more often than not because of it.
In the end the lawsuit was from unhappy people who didn't understand the technicalities of the product the bought and then sued over it.
The only outcome, sadly, would have been a US Court having to make a legal precedent ruling on what *exactly* defines a CPU "core". Either way, AMD wins or losses, the Consumer and IT industry as a whole would have been the ultimate losers. As we would have had a legal court precedent set that would define in literal terms what is and is not a "core" and would have thus had an everlasting or long lasting affect on any public designs from either company. This is called stifling innovation. You keep new things out of the world this way.
AMD's attempt at a new thing (2:1 ALU:FPU ratios) didn't pan out, but it *is* the first consumer 8 core chip. Their willingness to take the hit in the end and *not* set a legal precedent one way or the other is something every PC user should feel thankful for regardless of the camp you are in.
All that said, still an interesting video on Intel's first attempt at one a few year after the fact. And to be fair this one has a full ALU:FPU compliment!
That case looks like it will fit the extra thick 280mm set up I got. Glad I watched this.
I feel like I've been waiting thiddy years for a new Dawid video!
Them Pure Loops are pretty darn good. Even the tiny 120mm AIO is a treat on my 5600X.
I love the 500dx case. I’ve built three PCs in them and have a 4th case sitting here waiting to be used.
Very nice of Corsair to sponsor this video, grats dawid.
I really like the ph lighting theme you got there. xD
I did the same thing with a dual cpu setup. I had dual xeon e5 2650l v4's and they were rated at 65 watts each, and I seen the cpu power draw read at well over 10000w some times.
Best looking build that I have seen in a long time.
This is how to do a sponsor build. It just gets funnier with each repetition. And, if the products are good, it certainly sticks with you. And the products certainly aren't bad.
I love your non sponsored videos
I love this shit, upgrading old computers with modern components, old school Intel HEDT platforms - so cool! Awesome video :)
Also agreed with something about 2 banks of ram flanking the CPU looking awesome for some reason haha
Thanks for the nice comment. 😃 There really is something so great looking about all that RAM.
Nice to see an x99 build I ran a xeon E5-2678v3 till Zen 3 got super cheap a few months ago. A great platform.
Running opencore MacOS on mine. Makes for an amazing mac.
the pure base 500dx looks HELLA nice. doing my first build in one soon!
That’s awesome! Good luck with your build. 😃
Thanks! I finished it last night. Your video about the best-selling Amazon PC was what made me go down this path, because it made me realize how much of a ripoff my dell xps was!
This has inspired me to upgrade my car.
The spare tire and jack are good, but the engine, drivetrain, body, wheels, glass, seats, paint, and all trim, surfaces and fuel system were over five years old, so all I had to do was replace all that and also while I was i there I replaced the wiring and electronics.
Now it gets from zero to 60 half a second quicker and the fuel milage is almost two percent better! So much easier than buying a new car like a sucker!!
Nice video Dawid, but one correction for you: there were X99 boards with USB-C. The second wave of boards which arrrived when the 6000-cpus came out. I myself had a Strix X99-board back then and it had the type c.
Would have been cool to see how that CPU’s frame rate compares to a super fast modern chip with the same GPU. I’d love to see an ‘old CPU gaming’ leaderboard!
4:25 Loving the cute pinkie action goin on in the reflection
This video reminded me of the legendary X99E-ITX/ac mobo by ASRock
Ah, that was quite a nice one at the time.
1 nice thing about the Be Quiet Aio's is the pump is in the tubes and not the Cpu block
That cpu did beter than i expected. Realy good cooling and results.
The finger and tone of "I do not trust this" used is what you feared as a child.
I had one of these with 2x GTX780 in SLI back when it was new. The 8 RAM slots was 100% flexworthy at LANs and easily doubled my E peen.
I was quiet all the video like the hashtag told me, btw excellent video !
Hey, let's test this PC! But first we need to replace everything -ish. Lol, love your vids man, keep them coming!
Thanks for letting the 5960X show what it can do. Less than a year ago I was still using the i7-3960X and its amazing what these old CPUs can still do. Also love overclocking the old CPUs, they had so much headroom.
Back when AMD cpus were insultingly bad Intel really didn’t need to push their CPUs to the breaking point out of the box I guess
@@deadtake2664 That's so true, same core count, slight 5-10% gain a generation just so it could claim to be the fastest CPU.
I know i sound like my grandparents when they saw a Nintendo DS game for the first time, but honestly, how the heck do fit all that tech into that tiny thing?
First, it always lifts my heart when tech/build vid points out there is a peel off on the contact plate of the cooler to protect it from corrosion pitting, I'm sure many first time users knew about it's presence or thought it was supposed to be there on installation. Second, you can get what now out of this chip? 😳
"never knew", oops.
always loving the content!! i do have my 5600x @ 4.85 all core np tho.. ezpz
Germ-in writing on the label? Thats contagious!
That will be my upgrade on my MSI X99S MPOWER Quadchannel 2014 Mobo (The Bumblebee)
I keep loving to see my 500dx case in videos. My pc stays super cool with that plus noctua fans
Great video as always. What I am really wondering about though is what kind of price would a system like this come down to in the end? The performance is clearly fantastic, but I wonder how much it would cost in total to build something like this myself.
I was really impressed with the low power usage!
I look forward to your Mad Scientist experiments every week
I really appreciate how you seamlessly integrate sponsored content, so the viewer doesn't feel like you're blatantly shilling.
I miss the old HEDT platforms. Still rockin' with X58 and Xeon on my media PC.
You know I actually prefer the way those bord look with the way the rams slots are because I feel as if you get more wiggle room to make it look better in my opinion
Yooo the building with BDubs intro music at the beginning
Hello Dawid, non related to the video, just wanted so say thank you for your very funny and informative videos! I löve you! xoxo
I have this CPU 5960x still running in my home server for 5 years. OC to 4.5 and 1.275volts. stable and never no problems with it. Excellent chip.
I have 2 x99 machines, 1 5960 and a 6850. Looking for a good price on a 6950 though. I'd still use a right angle adapter on that usb 3.0 front panel connector, just makes for an overall cleaner look.
In my dreams i have a PC like that... Thank you for that Video.
When you start Dawid's Video if you hit the Left Arowkey over and over you can make a nifty song 🎶
I love the purebase 500dx
I would've liked to see the difference between stock clocks and OC'd with quad channel.
@dawiddoestechstuff I miss the Linooooooooooooooooooode (explosions) ads lol, still love the way you spice up everything, one of my favorite channels, its nice to see someone smaller so original, fun and helpful. Absolutely love the channel!
I remember the 5960x. Great performance! How much power was it consuming while overclocked, and what was the heat production like? Did you have to leave the room because it was so hot? I Am a PC tech, but I really appreciate the direction Apple is going with their processors. Although not being able to upgrade or repair parts is ridiculous.
thousand-dollar cpu man the years fly
Didn't the LGA 2011-1 Xeon CPUs come out before this? Sure, they were more business-oriented most of the time, but there were gaming motherboards made for the socket and actually a few overclockable models. Most notably the Xeon E5 1680 V2. Which is an 8 core 16 thread cpu that can be overclocked to over 4 gigahertz. I've personally used it myself and it's still a pretty good performer today.
Another banger king
why did you use the bottom usb 3 port for the front io i think it would look cleaner just a thought for your next build keep up the good work
I love how this starts out as an "upgrade" but eventually turns into "replace literally everything except the CPU and SSD"
I really like the subtle mention of the sponsor😂😂😂
I manage a 4.6 all core on my R7 3800x. ;) Even managed a whole second at 6.0 single core in the 3dmark demo.
Nice video brudder
vids like this are cool, giving new life to older interesting hardware. and i got to hear you say thitee again.