sponsored but having low sh- 140p video quality, i must say it seems like he had someone there or sum, no he dont deserve it, 60k channel tf u talk about
@@S1B1B1SFirst of all speak English better and secondly don't beat yourself with your negativity by rambling on nonsense. It makes you look and sound childish.
Not really. We encounter Wally during the War Within, which is a quest required before starting Chains of Harrow. The triggering event is that the Tenno regained not only themselves, but their memories and thus their emotional identity. The tragedy of Rell's story is that the void is a realm of emotions that manifest reality, but Rell could neither understand nor control his emotions. Because the others alienated him he never got to talk to them about their experiences. He thought he was the only one encountering the man in the wall and that if he died the entity would go free, but Wally was never contained in Rell. In his isolation Rell had made his suffering out to be a martyrdom, when really it was a struggle everyone was enduring. We learned that the operators never needed Margulis' research to be able to perform transference; her gift was that the somatic transference therapy made the Tenno forget themselves, which eased their trauma and helped stabilize their emotions. That level of control was vital to harnessing the void powers that flow out through the Heart of Deimos. The Tenno likely couldn't have used their powers without her help at that crucial time, but it's unlikely that she invented their abilities, even though credit for transference is often attributed to her, and to be fair her research and technology likely made the process much easier. When Rell attempted to use transference to go into Harrow (likely the warframe issued to him before it was discovered he couldn't control his void powers because of his trouble with emotions) the process went wrong and the connection fragmented his body and mind between forms with nowhere to go. The Tenno fixed the glitch and let Rell go free to wherever lost consciousnesses go in the Warframe universe.
First of all, congrats on the DE sponsorship. Second, while the video is otherwise an excellent compilation of what we know so far, I think I can offer a few corrections: Albrecht traveled to 1999 specifically because *something* in that year blocks the Indifference's interference. If you remember, in our first trip to 1999 in the Whispers in the Walls quest, we arrive on December 31, and when we meet Albrecht, he doesn't do the creepy smile until the clock in the background reaches 12 PM (Aka, it's not 1999 anymore). I believe whatever is blocking the Indifference is something related to the Techrot. In the ARG, once you clicked on the "DEPLOY ANTIVIRUS" button, all the screens changed to either Wally or a "THANKS KIDDO".
Would make sense why the year is so important if it is the infestation itself is somehow antithetical to the Indifference. Maybe their chaotic hivemind somehow overwhelms the Void with like, interference static or something similar.
@@StallordD One of the things we've seen beat the void most consistently before is interpersonal connection i.e. the love that holds back the Murmur. Perhaps the infestation being a horrific hive mind of ridiculous, unhealthy amounts of connection makes it some kind of polar opposite to indifference - being really way more connected than you'd rather be, as opposed to the indifference's total lack of connection.
Here's something interesting. Doctor Entrati has pale white skin, he treats his kinepage like a pocket watch and he's obsessed with lateness. He might be an allusion to the White Rabbit from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and that might be a hint of what he's trying to do with the Operator/Drifter. He's luring them down a rabbit hole because he knows that the Drifter created Duviri which is their "wonderland" and their coexistent with the chosen operator makes them the prime candidate for his war against The Indifference. If it ends up with them meeting Entrati in-person and not his void doppelganger, he'll make them create a new world in the void that isolates The Indifference so it can be directly confronted.
Yep! He went and while he was there tried to warn Thrax about the Void before it consumed Duviri, I go over all that more in my Whispers in the Walls lore video.
it could also be an homage to their game dark sector. they announced its development in feb 2000 and it's likely that they started coming up with the idea of it in 1999
Fantastic work on this one. I really liked how you packaged/contextualized the existing lore in how it specifically relates to the Indifference. No notes on accuracy either - I briefly thought you had misused the term "The Palimpsest of Spacetime" but on double checking, I think you've got it right. I hadn't considered that theory in relation to the Operator/Drifter but it makes total sense. The only thing I'm unsure of is how prominent the in-universe Digital Extremes company actually is. I got the vibe that it's more of a joke for the sake of the ARG (an employee trapped inside the office) than an actual major location or inception point for the Technocyte plague, but you never know! Thanks for putting together these videos, your work is massively appreciated. And congratulations on the much deserved sponsorship!
If they want to make themselves important, just having the excuse of “Wally knows we make the story, not messing with the fictional version of us is a good idea to not be conceptually dis-embodied.”
Fun fact: Wally likes unique individuals. He made contact with Rell because his specific variety of autism was the only case of it on the Zariman. (see Cavia lore)
@@StallordDto add to that, Rell’s hypersensitivity from his autism could allow him to notice the indifference sooner than anyone else. Perceiving it means latching it first. I think Deimos Mother put Rell there deliberately like how she programmed in the operator’s mind “tales of Duviri”. A counter against the indifference.
Oh Shit! Dude got sponsered?! Duuuuude. That's freaking amazing. How long have yo ubeen doing Lore video? I'm glad you got recognition for your efforts.
Ayyyyy, Great to see that the ARG is also covered, Albeit briefly. Which fair enough because it's easily an entire video's worth of content with how dense it was
@StallordD for sure! DE is honestly stepping up their game with every ARG they put out. Unfortunately i didn't even know there was a zariman one at the time, But it defo seemed like a really interesting one tbh
It makes sense if 1999 would be the year Albrecht travelled to, because it was the furthest he could go. If the tech-rot/infestation really originated from this year, this might hint at the infestation being the necessary component needed for timetravel. Maybe a hive mind of the infestation that not only spreads across space but also time. The infestation being required for this would fit the rest of the lore, considering it is used for a lot of other stuff, too, e.g. the Warframes themselves. What is unclear to me yet is whether the infestation broke out without Albrecht's influence or whether he played a part in its creation. This would make this another potential paradox, in which Albrecht can only travel to the past through a plague that he himself needs to start in said past. I don't think they will go this route, but would bet that the infestation would be somewhat involved with the whole time travel shenanigans. We'll know soon :)
literally put your link in my disco for my community. Anyone that asks about the lore I direct em your way. Thank you so much for making the lore vids and helping me love the game more than I already did!
Tremendous work on the video, as always! It will be fascinating to see the horror and violence of the Warframe universe through the eyes of the Warframes directly, or at least as close as we're going to get. Throughout my time playing the game, I've always wondered how those mute soldiers felt all the times they've been stabbed, shot, killed, and reanimated and had no mouth to scream ...
Your videos have always made things clear to me, and this one is no different. Even when I had to skip back a couple times to process what was being said and its implications, this is still very well structured. As expected indeed! It's interesting to know that the Infestation was a thing before the Orokin era we're familiar with (that is if I interpreted what was being said correctly XD), but for the rest of this storyline's mysteries, we'll just have to wait and see!
I heard about this video and though I'm subscribed, had to seek it out, since I missed the release. Nice that you included pictures from the ARG, that was a fun bunch of clues to collect, hehe.
Nice job on the sponsorship! It's about time! Who else can we turn to for lore synthesis and explanation since DE doesn't really do it 😂. Also is that an old DE logo I spied?
The insteristing concept of the indiference relation with Albrecht is that it is "both" causal and non-causal: yes, the doppelganger was caused by the void "contemplating" a living being mind, but the dopoelganger itself is not a mere copy or a neonate taking steps (not on an absolute sense), it already has very vast experience beyond Albrecht mimicked memories, the void probably was already "sentient", and being the "space between spaces" probably had contact, even tho muffled and brief, with a myriad of concepts from all possible outcomes, even way more when you consider the Past/Present/Future simultanity of eternalism. And with those and it's own experience since the dawn of Reality/Creation/Universe and with what it could learn from direct contact with "another mind", it transcribed it's "eldritch knowledge". It is not a "deity", even a "demiurge"...but it is an "alien" being of unimaginable proportions on both reach and experience, and even so it is still learning xD.
I’m pretty sure they mention 1999 is as far back as he could go but he wanted to go back further. I heard that voice line at some point playing last night but now i can’t remember where. thank you for the concise catch up!
Things I'd like to add: 1 - the prime origin point of the Infestation could be an overwritten version of Dark Sector's history, which was decanonized via the overwrite, a ship arriving from seemingly nowhere, guttered and riven, perhaps with another Proto-Excalibur still warding off the Infestation inside until the authorities properly quarantined it and the man in question kept hidden. 2 - Albrecht's activity within '99 is due to the fact that The Wall of Lohk cannot move as deftly along the threads of Khra, as it is tangled with Natah and our near-linear-time-Tenno and/or by other acting anchors, such as Rell or, by incident, Dominus Thrax. Perhaps he may be investigating the mystery of Hayden's nonexistence as a means to waylay Lohk, or his actions were purely to lock it into a state of boredom until we can pay our end of the favour. 2a - A Duviri trailer featuring the Drifter using guns, yet we don't get to in or out of Duviri, save for the New War itself, could lead somewhere; would like expansion on the Tenno via another school that focuses more on the 'master of gun and blade' aspect. Another trailer has Dominus Thrax garnering an interest in our world, though he has yet to take any perceivable action beyond the Thrax-Grineer troops manifesting on the 10-0 and Lua. 3 - The favour in question. Before proceeding, I urge you rewatch or revisit the Zariman scene where we made the Deal with the Man in the Wall. I vividly recall the interaction as something along these lines: The Tenno offers the Wall-Man their light. Something as mundane as a torch. The Wall agrees, and offers to save everyone in exchange for the light. They were saved. Whether the Wall would accept a personally crafted lamp of its likeness, and be satisfied with that as a gift, I cannot say. However, personally, it would be funny if we could appease it with such a gift, as then it'd open up a different aspect for the 'war' to take in - one of 'warring' with it not to destroy it, but to make room to teach it the value of other core concepts, giving it the ability to feel empathy, shame, remorse, and thus becoming wholly indifferent by achieving a complete understanding of the emotional spectrum, finding balance. Is balance not a form of indifference? Requiems I'd apply to that deal/favour would include, in this order: Jahu, Ris, Vome - a form of light. Fass, Netra, Lohk - the encroaching threat of unstable minds and forms afflicted by Lohk. Khra, Xata, Oull - Made in the spur of the moment. The Wall has little questions on pads in Duviri. Some of them may help with nuances regarding the deal and matters surrounding it.
palimpsest universe PALIMPSEST UNIVERSE I found it again, thank you for saying it again, I knew somebody used the term in the past, thank you for reestablishing it.
I know I'm saying this right on the cusp of 1999 being released, but while the current main story (The "Void War" Arc) is currently focusing on Albrecht Entrati and The Man in the Wall, now would be a great time to revisit the foundational lore _before_ more is added to it. The broader history of the Origin System (with specifics like The Plague Year only being brought up as needed); The Tenno, our allies, and our enemies; the story so far that leads up to 1999; and the... _wonderful_ (/s) mess DE made by essentially retconning most of the limited time events and the two Trials out of the game. Maybe a side episode covering the various ARGs would be fun, just to see how they've developed that little marketing tool over the years, and to see how early "promo lore" compares to the final in-game variant.
While I'm a big fan of "Show, dont tell," I really wish DE would do a little more telling. I didn't understand what happened at 9:42 until now. It makes the moment much cooler knowing that's how we stalled Wally, but when I was playing the mission I was so confused that the moment had zero impact. Thanks for the lore summary, your videos always make Warframe's bonkers plot more digestible 👌
I'll be honest, I had zero idea about what the indifference even was until watching this video.. And the only time they ever do the "telling" part is through novel sized lore dumps that read like a poem.
I don't have all the lore so feel free to point out where this doesn't work. I have had this theory for a while, but I don't think the Zariman disaster was an accident. I first had this idea around when the 'angels of the Zariman' released, because I think there was some line about how the Zariman was supposed to take smaller jumps but instead made one made leap. My theory is that the Zariman disaster was another experiment set up by Albrect, similar to the cavia. As an example, Abrect used Minn and tagfer because they were the last of the species, they were unique which might attract the attention of the void. In the same sense, the Zariman is unique. It was humanities gateway to the stars, the key to the Orokins greatest project, the colonization of Tau. It literally symbolized an idea of hope and the future of mankind. Abrect might had hoped this beacon of hope/the future might keep its symbolism, but transmute into something new. It also makes sense how Abrect could orchestrate it, with The Zariman being the first interstellar void craft, it made sense the Orokin would look to basically the father of Void travel to help build it.
The Orokin got impatient with how slow the Zariman was going so forced them to take the massive unsafe jump or they would be branded traitors and any of their family remaining in Sol would be punished.
Great video! A pretty comprehensive look at really everything leading up to 1999. It's crazy how much backstory there is to this point in the story. A question: Why do you say that Albrecht arrived in Duviri before the Drifter created it? While this may be true given time's malleability within the Void, nothing indicates this. It seems to me that Albrecht largely began sojourning through time and Void at roughly the same time Duviri was created (the Zariman incident).
Mostly just due to how his notes make it seem like it occurred not too long after his first encounter, when he was still despondent and before he fully resolved to fight back against the Void. Granted the time placement is extremely vague and the order of events can be interpreted pretty liberally, so I definitely don't feel too adamant about it being fact. I wasn't corrected about it in my first drafts of the script, and DE absolutely could have let me be wrong to encourage open discussion about it without committing themselves to a strict timeline, but I did try and run it by them first.
@@StallordD That's interesting. Very cool that they looked over your script, too. My interpretation is that it happened at least a while after his initial crossing, because Albrecht was pretty guilty for abandoning Euleria when he was in Duviri. Even though he says he raised her "with inconsistent vigour", he hadn't yet abandoned her completely by the time of the Void accident, since she was part of his experiment with him. To me, it seemed like his long absences came later in his career, and we know they overlapped significantly with the Old War. But you're right that much of the timeline is muddied, and even the scale of events can't really be established. I also agree that his Duviri travels precipitated a big change in his strategy to fight The Indifference. it just stood out to me, the way you mentioned it in passing. Great video!
Another great video by Warframe's lore king theorist. StallordD🎉🎉 At this point I would really hope DE would hire you as a writer in the future.❤ Also on another Level I would love to see you(StallordD) and TheDsIEGE do a theory collaboration video.🤩 That would be so amazing.
That would be awesome (I do like writing in my own time) but they already have a full retinue of extremely talented writers, and there's a pretty big gap between professionally writing for a project and just recapping someone else's story lol. And as for collabs I'm always open for them!
one small thing to mention. people always call lloyed the lover of entrati, thats good and all, but entrati himself once spoke about his wife, with wich he had his daughter, wich is the mother in the deimos entrati family
he has never spoken of a wife he said that Euleria, his daughter, has her mothers eyes. there is not a single line of dialogue where albrecht mentions a "wife"; you dont need to marry someone to have a child - she could have been a surrogate or it could have been a practical union with no romantic undertones also grandmother of deimos is the mother of vilcor (father), she has zero relation to albrecht aside from her son marrying his daughter
DE should hire you to compile a chronological story mode to insert into the game The lore is insanely cool, but very convoluted and told through different media One factor that doesn't help retain new player is that the story is told in such a sloppy way
@@StallordD yeah, but it would bear the fruits on the long run, because a player that is invested in the story is a player that is retained more easily in the game ecosystem
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@@S1B1B1S -1/10 rage bait
The only TH-cam sponsor that shouldn't be brushed off as a scam.
@@S1B1B1SFirst of all speak English better and secondly don't beat yourself with your negativity by rambling on nonsense. It makes you look and sound childish.
6:47 Rell is a 🐐! My boy single handedly saved the rest of us from whatever Wally wanted to do to us while we slept on Lua.
Maybe I'm dumb, but I only just now realized he died after reading the recap of "The Sentinel"
Not really. We encounter Wally during the War Within, which is a quest required before starting Chains of Harrow. The triggering event is that the Tenno regained not only themselves, but their memories and thus their emotional identity. The tragedy of Rell's story is that the void is a realm of emotions that manifest reality, but Rell could neither understand nor control his emotions. Because the others alienated him he never got to talk to them about their experiences. He thought he was the only one encountering the man in the wall and that if he died the entity would go free, but Wally was never contained in Rell. In his isolation Rell had made his suffering out to be a martyrdom, when really it was a struggle everyone was enduring. We learned that the operators never needed Margulis' research to be able to perform transference; her gift was that the somatic transference therapy made the Tenno forget themselves, which eased their trauma and helped stabilize their emotions. That level of control was vital to harnessing the void powers that flow out through the Heart of Deimos. The Tenno likely couldn't have used their powers without her help at that crucial time, but it's unlikely that she invented their abilities, even though credit for transference is often attributed to her, and to be fair her research and technology likely made the process much easier. When Rell attempted to use transference to go into Harrow (likely the warframe issued to him before it was discovered he couldn't control his void powers because of his trouble with emotions) the process went wrong and the connection fragmented his body and mind between forms with nowhere to go. The Tenno fixed the glitch and let Rell go free to wherever lost consciousnesses go in the Warframe universe.
@@sirdeadlockbut how did tell come upon harrow
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The first 3/4 is a masterclass in how to summarize non-linear storytelling. SO GOOD.
This is the most comprehensible and easy to digest summary I've seen
So happy DE finally made use of the absolute strongest content creator for warframe. Sponsorship well deserved and hopefully a win win for you!
Congrats on the DE sponsor my guy
THE man got a DE sponsorship,heck yeah well deserved.This channel was my gateway into warframe lore nearly 10 years ago now and its still amazing
First of all, congrats on the DE sponsorship. Second, while the video is otherwise an excellent compilation of what we know so far, I think I can offer a few corrections:
Albrecht traveled to 1999 specifically because *something* in that year blocks the Indifference's interference. If you remember, in our first trip to 1999 in the Whispers in the Walls quest, we arrive on December 31, and when we meet Albrecht, he doesn't do the creepy smile until the clock in the background reaches 12 PM (Aka, it's not 1999 anymore).
I believe whatever is blocking the Indifference is something related to the Techrot. In the ARG, once you clicked on the "DEPLOY ANTIVIRUS" button, all the screens changed to either Wally or a "THANKS KIDDO".
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Would make sense why the year is so important if it is the infestation itself is somehow antithetical to the Indifference. Maybe their chaotic hivemind somehow overwhelms the Void with like, interference static or something similar.
@@StallordD One of the things we've seen beat the void most consistently before is interpersonal connection i.e. the love that holds back the Murmur. Perhaps the infestation being a horrific hive mind of ridiculous, unhealthy amounts of connection makes it some kind of polar opposite to indifference - being really way more connected than you'd rather be, as opposed to the indifference's total lack of connection.
Here's something interesting. Doctor Entrati has pale white skin, he treats his kinepage like a pocket watch and he's obsessed with lateness. He might be an allusion to the White Rabbit from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and that might be a hint of what he's trying to do with the Operator/Drifter. He's luring them down a rabbit hole because he knows that the Drifter created Duviri which is their "wonderland" and their coexistent with the chosen operator makes them the prime candidate for his war against The Indifference. If it ends up with them meeting Entrati in-person and not his void doppelganger, he'll make them create a new world in the void that isolates The Indifference so it can be directly confronted.
Interesting indeed
That's a great theory! Would make sense too, forcing the Void into a more "tangible" form that can actually be combated.
@@StallordD There's evidence Entrati went to Duviri's lost island, Scholar's Landing.
Yep! He went and while he was there tried to warn Thrax about the Void before it consumed Duviri, I go over all that more in my Whispers in the Walls lore video.
That... is a great theory! A lot of things since Duviri just clicked now.
Great Vid. Very cool that DE is behind it. I feel like choosing 1999 is a play on the Y2K scare we all went through then.
it could also be an homage to their game dark sector. they announced its development in feb 2000 and it's likely that they started coming up with the idea of it in 1999
@@madmiico It is both, now that we see the update. The Y2K scare is clearly mentioned and part fo the plot of the quest.
Fantastic work on this one. I really liked how you packaged/contextualized the existing lore in how it specifically relates to the Indifference.
No notes on accuracy either - I briefly thought you had misused the term "The Palimpsest of Spacetime" but on double checking, I think you've got it right. I hadn't considered that theory in relation to the Operator/Drifter but it makes total sense.
The only thing I'm unsure of is how prominent the in-universe Digital Extremes company actually is. I got the vibe that it's more of a joke for the sake of the ARG (an employee trapped inside the office) than an actual major location or inception point for the Technocyte plague, but you never know!
Thanks for putting together these videos, your work is massively appreciated. And congratulations on the much deserved sponsorship!
If they want to make themselves important, just having the excuse of “Wally knows we make the story, not messing with the fictional version of us is a good idea to not be conceptually dis-embodied.”
This is the most beautifully succinct breakdown of the Indifference saga I've ever seen, period. Excellent writing!
Fun fact: Wally likes unique individuals. He made contact with Rell because his specific variety of autism was the only case of it on the Zariman. (see Cavia lore)
Would make a lot of sense as to why it became so fixated on Rell!
@@StallordD And your Operator, if you play her as autistic!
WALLY XD
@@StallordDto add to that, Rell’s hypersensitivity from his autism could allow him to notice the indifference sooner than anyone else. Perceiving it means latching it first.
I think Deimos Mother put Rell there deliberately like how she programmed in the operator’s mind “tales of Duviri”. A counter against the indifference.
Oh Shit! Dude got sponsered?!
Duuuuude. That's freaking amazing. How long have yo ubeen doing Lore video? I'm glad you got recognition for your efforts.
Congrats on the sponser ship, well deserved for 10 years of warframe lore
Dude you are the official loreman of Warframe at this point, with all your vids and a sponsorship from DE, congrats!
Thanks! There are lots of other great lore creators too though, and I'm not the first they've sponsored!
I've been watching you since the Crewman Log videos, congrats on the sponsorship homie o7
I've always found your narration to be quite calming to listen to, congrats on the sponsorship!
Can't wait for whatever info we get from 1999!
The goat is back, glad you got your YT safe my dude. Also LORE!!!
Love you videos my guy, Congrats on the sponsorship!
An amazingly easy to understand summary for a complicated game this is amazing
I played until around Plains of Eidolon and only managed to get to The War Within. I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
I was really waiting for this video, you're the best!
Thank you so much, I hope you enjoyed it!
And congrats for the sponsorship, you and deSIEGE are the best Warframe lore TH-camrs.
Ayyyyy, Great to see that the ARG is also covered, Albeit briefly. Which fair enough because it's easily an entire video's worth of content with how dense it was
It was great, definitely my favorite one they've done so far! (Though I really enjoyed the Zariman one as well)
@StallordD for sure! DE is honestly stepping up their game with every ARG they put out.
Unfortunately i didn't even know there was a zariman one at the time, But it defo seemed like a really interesting one tbh
Congratulations man, you’ve earned it !!!!
And this is why you're the G.O.A.T! The most comprehensible and easy to digest summary of WF lore i've seen! Gratz on the sponsor too ;)
It makes sense if 1999 would be the year Albrecht travelled to, because it was the furthest he could go. If the tech-rot/infestation really originated from this year, this might hint at the infestation being the necessary component needed for timetravel. Maybe a hive mind of the infestation that not only spreads across space but also time. The infestation being required for this would fit the rest of the lore, considering it is used for a lot of other stuff, too, e.g. the Warframes themselves. What is unclear to me yet is whether the infestation broke out without Albrecht's influence or whether he played a part in its creation. This would make this another potential paradox, in which Albrecht can only travel to the past through a plague that he himself needs to start in said past. I don't think they will go this route, but would bet that the infestation would be somewhat involved with the whole time travel shenanigans. We'll know soon :)
literally put your link in my disco for my community. Anyone that asks about the lore I direct em your way. Thank you so much for making the lore vids and helping me love the game more than I already did!
Im so happy you got a DE sponsor, youre the best lore channel out there!
Congrats on the sponsorship! It's on a well made video too! I kinda had a hard time understanding the lore but this makes it crystal clear! Thanks
Heck yeah, i needed this. Ive played through all main quests but im still newish and trying to piece everything together. Thanks!
Tremendous work on the video, as always!
It will be fascinating to see the horror and violence of the Warframe universe through the eyes of the Warframes directly, or at least as close as we're going to get. Throughout my time playing the game, I've always wondered how those mute soldiers felt all the times they've been stabbed, shot, killed, and reanimated and had no mouth to scream ...
This helped so much with my understanding of the 1999 lore. There were a lot of things I was confused about. Amazing video!
my man did it, so glad for the sponsoring! you deserve it
Can't tell you how many times iv fallen asleep or played warframe to this whole playlist...great work and the sponsorship is well deserved!! 👏👏👏
Congrats on the sponsorship and really great summary before we get to 1999.
Congrats on the sponsorship! Couldn't think of anyone more deserving.
The lore runs so deep. I’m a vet and tbh I did not process most of it while playing over the years
can't wait for the post 1999 what we know video
You definitely deserve the sponsorship ! Amazing work as always !
Wow might be the best lore explanation video on warframe I've seen.
I haven't caught up on your Warframe lore videos yet, but I couldn't resist this notification. Congratulations on your sponsor from DE!!
Your videos have always made things clear to me, and this one is no different. Even when I had to skip back a couple times to process what was being said and its implications, this is still very well structured. As expected indeed!
It's interesting to know that the Infestation was a thing before the Orokin era we're familiar with (that is if I interpreted what was being said correctly XD), but for the rest of this storyline's mysteries, we'll just have to wait and see!
Another banger vid as always dude, and massive congratulations on the sponsorship from DE
Congrats for the sponsored video my dude. Well deserve, your content is just *chef kiss*
I heard about this video and though I'm subscribed, had to seek it out, since I missed the release.
Nice that you included pictures from the ARG, that was a fun bunch of clues to collect, hehe.
OMG Very good synopsis of the story Ill deff be keeping an eye on this channel
Finally, you are gettin some real recognition. Congratulations!
WOW, congrats! You are doing great job!
i still remember seeing only warframe ost's in this channel the first time i found it, now you got sponsored by DE, congrats
As someone that is just getting back into WF, this was a massive help with getting refamiliarized with the lore!
Why was I hoping for some sort of carnival of horror before I even saw this? Could be subliminal. I love that fair background. God Im hyped
Forever holding space for warframe lore videos.
Really well done video! So many small light bulbs clicked on while watching. Keep up the good work!
YEEEESSSS. Congrats on the sponsor!!
ELITE level, as always. Love your breakdowns and delivery man, top drawer
Nice job on the sponsorship! It's about time! Who else can we turn to for lore synthesis and explanation since DE doesn't really do it 😂. Also is that an old DE logo I spied?
The insteristing concept of the indiference relation with Albrecht is that it is "both" causal and non-causal: yes, the doppelganger was caused by the void "contemplating" a living being mind, but the dopoelganger itself is not a mere copy or a neonate taking steps (not on an absolute sense), it already has very vast experience beyond Albrecht mimicked memories, the void probably was already "sentient", and being the "space between spaces" probably had contact, even tho muffled and brief, with a myriad of concepts from all possible outcomes, even way more when you consider the Past/Present/Future simultanity of eternalism. And with those and it's own experience since the dawn of Reality/Creation/Universe and with what it could learn from direct contact with "another mind", it transcribed it's "eldritch knowledge". It is not a "deity", even a "demiurge"...but it is an "alien" being of unimaginable proportions on both reach and experience, and even so it is still learning xD.
Always loved your vids, Im happy they sponsored you. You deserve it my man. 🤙
LORE!!!!!
I’m pretty sure they mention 1999 is as far back as he could go but he wanted to go back further. I heard that voice line at some point playing last night but now i can’t remember where. thank you for the concise catch up!
5:18 because Rebecca liked the aesthetic at the time and told the creative team to use that year.
Congrats on the sponsor!!
Holy shit. Congrats! 👍
Great video! Well spoken and put together nicely!
stallord back with the warframe lore just in time.
Man, it feels like yesterday I was just starting to think the sentients alone were the big bad enemy
Been waiting for you, you sound young wise smart and intelligence as always 😱🤯
This was super helpful, thank you so much!
Things I'd like to add:
1 - the prime origin point of the Infestation could be an overwritten version of Dark Sector's history, which was decanonized via the overwrite, a ship arriving from seemingly nowhere, guttered and riven, perhaps with another Proto-Excalibur still warding off the Infestation inside until the authorities properly quarantined it and the man in question kept hidden.
2 - Albrecht's activity within '99 is due to the fact that The Wall of Lohk cannot move as deftly along the threads of Khra, as it is tangled with Natah and our near-linear-time-Tenno and/or by other acting anchors, such as Rell or, by incident, Dominus Thrax.
Perhaps he may be investigating the mystery of Hayden's nonexistence as a means to waylay Lohk, or his actions were purely to lock it into a state of boredom until we can pay our end of the favour.
2a - A Duviri trailer featuring the Drifter using guns, yet we don't get to in or out of Duviri, save for the New War itself, could lead somewhere; would like expansion on the Tenno via another school that focuses more on the 'master of gun and blade' aspect.
Another trailer has Dominus Thrax garnering an interest in our world, though he has yet to take any perceivable action beyond the Thrax-Grineer troops manifesting on the 10-0 and Lua.
3 - The favour in question. Before proceeding, I urge you rewatch or revisit the Zariman scene where we made the Deal with the Man in the Wall. I vividly recall the interaction as something along these lines:
The Tenno offers the Wall-Man their light. Something as mundane as a torch.
The Wall agrees, and offers to save everyone in exchange for the light.
They were saved.
Whether the Wall would accept a personally crafted lamp of its likeness, and be satisfied with that as a gift, I cannot say.
However, personally, it would be funny if we could appease it with such a gift, as then it'd open up a different aspect for the 'war' to take in - one of 'warring' with it not to destroy it, but to make room to teach it the value of other core concepts, giving it the ability to feel empathy, shame, remorse, and thus becoming wholly indifferent by achieving a complete understanding of the emotional spectrum, finding balance.
Is balance not a form of indifference?
Requiems I'd apply to that deal/favour would include, in this order:
Jahu, Ris, Vome - a form of light.
Fass, Netra, Lohk - the encroaching threat of unstable minds and forms afflicted by Lohk.
Khra, Xata, Oull - Made in the spur of the moment.
The Wall has little questions on pads in Duviri. Some of them may help with nuances regarding the deal and matters surrounding it.
Always excited for a Starlord post
StallordD dropping Lore Bombs again!
HE HAS RETURNED. WITH THE BEST SPONSORSHIP. HE DID IT LADS IF DE ACKNOWLEDGES HIM ITS CANON
I think they're still very keen to have open speculation and discussion about the lore, so this is just one interpretation of things!
Well done and congrats!
WHAT A BLESSING
Tyvm for filling some gaps in my lore knowledge.
Well with the drifter around they’ll likely be able to halt back the virus and allowing the members of Hex to maintain their sanity.🐱
palimpsest universe
PALIMPSEST UNIVERSE
I found it again, thank you for saying it again, I knew somebody used the term in the past, thank you for reestablishing it.
I know I'm saying this right on the cusp of 1999 being released, but while the current main story (The "Void War" Arc) is currently focusing on Albrecht Entrati and The Man in the Wall, now would be a great time to revisit the foundational lore _before_ more is added to it. The broader history of the Origin System (with specifics like The Plague Year only being brought up as needed); The Tenno, our allies, and our enemies; the story so far that leads up to 1999; and the... _wonderful_ (/s) mess DE made by essentially retconning most of the limited time events and the two Trials out of the game. Maybe a side episode covering the various ARGs would be fun, just to see how they've developed that little marketing tool over the years, and to see how early "promo lore" compares to the final in-game variant.
10:30 'and probably cause the dating sim stuff was probably half done and someone realized the Operator probably a little young for that XD'
Eh there as old if not older than drifter but I guess it’s odd to get busy in a kids body😭😭
Thanks for your hard work.
Great as always champ.
If only duviri dropped before the new war, the lore would of made sense 😭
Thanks for this!
Amazing video dude.
Omg finally he returns!!!
While I'm a big fan of "Show, dont tell," I really wish DE would do a little more telling. I didn't understand what happened at 9:42 until now. It makes the moment much cooler knowing that's how we stalled Wally, but when I was playing the mission I was so confused that the moment had zero impact.
Thanks for the lore summary, your videos always make Warframe's bonkers plot more digestible 👌
I'll be honest, I had zero idea about what the indifference even was until watching this video.. And the only time they ever do the "telling" part is through novel sized lore dumps that read like a poem.
Hell yea! So excited!!!
"THE RETURN OF THE KING"
CLEM!
*Awesome vid by the way!!!
I finally understand duviri.
I don't have all the lore so feel free to point out where this doesn't work. I have had this theory for a while, but I don't think the Zariman disaster was an accident. I first had this idea around when the 'angels of the Zariman' released, because I think there was some line about how the Zariman was supposed to take smaller jumps but instead made one made leap.
My theory is that the Zariman disaster was another experiment set up by Albrect, similar to the cavia. As an example, Abrect used Minn and tagfer because they were the last of the species, they were unique which might attract the attention of the void. In the same sense, the Zariman is unique. It was humanities gateway to the stars, the key to the Orokins greatest project, the colonization of Tau. It literally symbolized an idea of hope and the future of mankind. Abrect might had hoped this beacon of hope/the future might keep its symbolism, but transmute into something new.
It also makes sense how Abrect could orchestrate it, with The Zariman being the first interstellar void craft, it made sense the Orokin would look to basically the father of Void travel to help build it.
The Orokin got impatient with how slow the Zariman was going so forced them to take the massive unsafe jump or they would be branded traitors and any of their family remaining in Sol would be punished.
Im ngl I needed that. I was so confused about the last 2 main quests
Noob
Great video! A pretty comprehensive look at really everything leading up to 1999. It's crazy how much backstory there is to this point in the story.
A question: Why do you say that Albrecht arrived in Duviri before the Drifter created it? While this may be true given time's malleability within the Void, nothing indicates this. It seems to me that Albrecht largely began sojourning through time and Void at roughly the same time Duviri was created (the Zariman incident).
Mostly just due to how his notes make it seem like it occurred not too long after his first encounter, when he was still despondent and before he fully resolved to fight back against the Void. Granted the time placement is extremely vague and the order of events can be interpreted pretty liberally, so I definitely don't feel too adamant about it being fact. I wasn't corrected about it in my first drafts of the script, and DE absolutely could have let me be wrong to encourage open discussion about it without committing themselves to a strict timeline, but I did try and run it by them first.
@@StallordD That's interesting. Very cool that they looked over your script, too. My interpretation is that it happened at least a while after his initial crossing, because Albrecht was pretty guilty for abandoning Euleria when he was in Duviri. Even though he says he raised her "with inconsistent vigour", he hadn't yet abandoned her completely by the time of the Void accident, since she was part of his experiment with him. To me, it seemed like his long absences came later in his career, and we know they overlapped significantly with the Old War. But you're right that much of the timeline is muddied, and even the scale of events can't really be established. I also agree that his Duviri travels precipitated a big change in his strategy to fight The Indifference. it just stood out to me, the way you mentioned it in passing. Great video!
It is official - Drusus Leverian somehow made his way to our universe.
whoa what?! where is the man in the wall head at 9:06 ?? I've never seen that b4
Outside the Sanctum if you look up, he's looming over. Menacingly.
@@StallordD omg thank youu i gotta go see his creepy ass thats sick
Another great video by Warframe's lore king theorist. StallordD🎉🎉
At this point I would really hope DE would hire you as a writer in the future.❤
Also on another Level I would love to see you(StallordD) and TheDsIEGE do a theory collaboration video.🤩
That would be so amazing.
That would be awesome (I do like writing in my own time) but they already have a full retinue of extremely talented writers, and there's a pretty big gap between professionally writing for a project and just recapping someone else's story lol.
And as for collabs I'm always open for them!
DE supporting lore content? Yo, that's big. Congratulations.
one small thing to mention. people always call lloyed the lover of entrati, thats good and all, but entrati himself once spoke about his wife, with wich he had his daughter, wich is the mother in the deimos entrati family
These two things don't contradict each other
he has never spoken of a wife
he said that Euleria, his daughter, has her mothers eyes. there is not a single line of dialogue where albrecht mentions a "wife"; you dont need to marry someone to have a child - she could have been a surrogate or it could have been a practical union with no romantic undertones
also grandmother of deimos is the mother of vilcor (father), she has zero relation to albrecht aside from her son marrying his daughter
And she could've also been from his wife or female lover. Let's not rule out that possibility
how do we know loid didnt give birth to her? or albrecht could have
@@ren-sensei3718 certainly possible 😂 but I think eurelia would've regarded loid higher then.
DE should hire you to compile a chronological story mode to insert into the game
The lore is insanely cool, but very convoluted and told through different media
One factor that doesn't help retain new player is that the story is told in such a sloppy way
That would be awesome, but it would also take a pretty significant amount of dev-time, so I imagine its unfortunately pretty low on the priority list.
@@StallordD yeah, but it would bear the fruits on the long run, because a player that is invested in the story is a player that is retained more easily in the game ecosystem