I can’t understand these comments or Carl and Danielle, Amanda dropped her whole career for Kyle…and she can’t start something new for herself so she can thrive as a person/spouse?! Not enough people understand that we must fill their own cup to be a better person for those around us.
“I’m doing this for our family” boy, there’s not going to be a future family if he throws temper tantrums and continues to not hear her out. Victim mentality at its finest ◡̈
Amanda CHOSE to be part of Kyle's business and grow it together. THAT is her job. She chose that and they are over a million dollars in debt and she wants to start "something else" that she doesn't even know what that is. Ciera and Paige got in her head. Kyle is right on this one. Amanda needs to grow up.
@@dcoleman4444 A million dollar loss in a business is not a million dollars of debt necessarily. This is usually when a business cuts budgets and has sales to make up the loss since they have spent more than their sales have matched up to. Business finances are also separate from personal finances when you're at that level. And consider the fact that many graphic designers and creative directors have employees or are freelancing for multiple businesses simultaneously - she doesn't need to be in person day in and day out to get a new merch or packaging design approved or created. They have enough money to get a staff member or two to help calm down the chaos. Kyle working 18hr days is showing inefficiency, not passion.
I guess i dont understand all the vitriol towards Amanda. She kept them afloat financially while he was starting this business. She came up with designs. He belittles her, calls her lazy and feels like he doesn't trust her to have kids right now. He doesn't appreciate what she does to help him. Yet he is over 40, drinks all the time, slurred speach drunk, stays out all night and she's the immature one?!? How on earth can he be surprised she wants to do something for herself especially when she is saying she will still be there for his company. Why wouldn't he want her to bring more money to the household. I use to think she was being very mean to him at the beginning of the season, but now i totally see why. Im hoping they get marriage counseling and work it out, but i gotta be honest and say i feel like they don't appear very compatible. He has already cheated....im surprised she forgave that and married him. I know that's forever on her mind when he stays out late. And since they are not getting along, I bet it wouldn't take much for him to do it again.
Agree on all counts. The main problem is his drinking and it's never discussed in an honest way. I'll never understand why her parents didn't try to stop her from marrying an alcoholic.
@@fififirestone3787 Exactly! They discuss Carl's alcoholism, but won't discuss that Kyle seems to have an issue with alcohol too. Which is weird that he has a company dedicated to alcohol. I feel like he needs to address it and nip it in the bud before it becomes as bad as Carl's was.
He’s already worse than what Carl was! But Amanda is no angel either!She was all about the company when it was time for her to not sign a prenup. She was not about to sign a prenup. She knew what she was doing so let’s call it like we see it!
Kyle's meltdown is out of line. She's the creative mind behind the brand so they can outsource or make more systems to be more efficient to allow her to do her own thing on the side. Why is he the only one allowed to go after his dreams? I also loathe him comparing her dream to his wanting to be a DJ. Your dream was to make a beverage brand, you're doing that - if it was to be a DJ you should have done so instead of starting a brand, her dream is a swim brand, let her do that and hire someone else to either help her or yourself to make the business more efficient.
no but lindsey is soooooo FUN being friends with all the girls. like libdsay cooking for aall of them bringing ciara a plate like… CAN WE KEEP THIS GOING🥹
Especially after all the BS from the other girls towards Lindsey lol. Idk how she just moves past everything because I would never forget. I clearly need to work on my pettiness because they wouldn’t get anything out of me lol 😭. Good to see the maturity and positivity though!
Carl has a lot of nerve trying to console Kyle by telling him Amanda doesn’t support his business. I used to like Kyle but I’m starting to understand why him and Carl are friends. The two of them are constantly blame shifting.
Yeah I wouldn’t say she doesn’t support LoverBoy but I would say that her timing with the bathing suit is bad especially since Kyle told her LoverBoy is losing money meanwhile Amanda wants him to now divide his time to help her start a bathing suit line.
@kennethiavail1719 We could argue it was bad timing for her to leave her successful career to take care of Kyle's bills as he built his business too. Designing swimwear can be time consuming, but it can also be a side job just how many graphic designers have full time day jobs and freelance to build their portfolios on the side. The company is also big enough to hire a graphic designer and allow Amanda to approve and guide them instead of doing everything herself which would free up time and improve efficiency.
@@rrdcreates well Amanda made that decision to leave her job. They should’ve been hired a different graphic designer. Also the way Amanda was speaking , she wants Kyle to help her start the line and that’s a lot to ask someone to support their own business that’s in the red while also helping you start your business. If anything, she should start her own business and allow Kyle to focus on LoverBoy while he hires a new graphic designer so she can focus on her dreams. The business is obviously hurting their marriage so they need to remove it and focus on their individual career passions.
@@kennethiavail1719she was harassed and pressured into it. We all saw it on our screens. You can't lie about it, it's literally on film the amount of times he harassed and pressured her. Carl and Danielle are jokes. Danielle is obsessed with Carl and sees any girl as competition
Amanda deserves sooooo much better than him. She gave him money and helped him stay afloat when he needed it, quit her job to work for him, created the best selling flavour and designs. The only one sinking this ship is him! I don’t wanna buy alcohol from a man who treats his wife so poorly. Calls her lazy, says he would fire her if she wasn’t his wife, says she doesn’t do anything, bashes her publicly all the time, never gives her credit, yells at her for years and cheats on her. It’s sad, and it’s abusive and narcissistic behaviour. She deserves to be happy and have a partnership, she also is supporting his dumb DJ career but she can’t have a passion project. Only he can, OK
Amanda bashes Kyle publicly constantly. And wasn't it her dad who gave Kyle the loan and Kyle is worried about repaying it? But Amanda is crying about fulfilling herself, which she should have done before she fucking got married!
Struggling and he has been for years it's not easy. However Amanda if you're not going to give her a house in New Jersey or children. Please let her have something of her own? From what I understand she's a very talented talented graphic designer. What's a woman do something creative for God's sake. Come on
Maybe Kyle should stop getting drunk on his own merchandise every weekend looking like an absolute fool. If he's not concerned about his company maybe he should start there yeah
I don't know, Amanda is allowed to pursue what she wants to pursue. Kyle can always get someone to fill her position, like Carl. Carl is also annoying, Lindsey dodged a bullet. Also, I want to hug Jesse ❤.
If Kyle and Amanda’s genders were reversed, I doubt many people would have a problem with Amanda’s desire for an identity. Would it seem unreasonable if it were a man saying he wanted to follow his own career path and not be told by his wife that he has to work for her?
I personally don't think that's the problem. I think it's the way she speaks to and about him so they're not able to communicate more effectively to see each others side of things
I used to be on Kyle's side, but now I have negative feelings towards him. In the recent episodes, he manipulated Amanda by prioritizing his career over hers, which made her feel insignificant and devalued her beliefs. Amanda made sacrifices for his career, and his lack of consideration for her makes me suspect he might be a covert narcissist. It's concerning how Danielle reinforces his behavior by whispering in his ear about how great he is and how terrible Amanda is, effectively insinuating that Amanda is emasculating him. However, she is wrong; Amanda is a great wife. "Pick me, Carl" also attempted to undermine their marriage despite his relationship with Lindsay being over. Danielle needs to refrain from spreading false stories about Amanda when she knows they're untrue.
I think Kyle knows Amanda talent, is afraid of loosing her and jealous how she can accomplish so much (design and stuff) without working 100 hours per day. So he makes her feel lazy and make her lose confidence to start something for herself. Thank God for friends like Ciara and Paige❤
It was Kyle’s concept and brain, but Amanda’s brain behind the brand is why Lover Boy took off. She has put her work in for his company and there is nothing wrong with them as a married couple agreeing with Amanda pursuing her dream. He’s unhappy because she’s unhappy. He is living out one of his dreams and not allowing her to pursue or live out her dreams is very selfish. Not to mention he is starting to pursue his dreams as a DJ. Really really…
Really really he needs to stop. He is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too old to react this way just because Amanda wants to do her own thing. I really don’t get the tantrum from him💔 I mean they’re still married she’s not leaving him. Carl needs to go work period
Ciara called him a pig and said she’d never introduce him to her friends. Yet she dated Austen Kroll who is the world’s biggest F*ck boy. I don’t think she has Jesse’s back.
Their marriage won't make it with the level of petty between Amanda and Kyle. Marriage is putting in more than your spouse sometimes, it's holding each other up in a us against them manner. They're supposed to be a team.
I am team Amanda 100 percent. Kyle behaves like a child and is, IMO, lucky that Amanda stuck around and married him. In the most recent episode, as Kyle is walking down the stairs, he says 'I need to be fed.' Dude...make yourself something to eat and feed yourself. Or, maybe you would prefer that Amanda get you a highchair and bib and then spoon feed you, all the while ensuring your company stays successful. My point: Amanda is NOT your mommy. Same with Carl who wants Lindsay to be 'soft.' Does he not know her? I have seen her behaviors long enough to realize that 'soft' is not a word anyone would use to describe Lindsay, and that is ok. How can she be 'soft' when she is forced to go into the world and be the sole financial provider because Carl cannot 'find himself' and has not worked for a year. Then, he takes off, while having a big baby tantrum..leaving her with her luggage... without so much as a goodbye. It was already bad enough he did not offer to carry her luggage. My advice to Carl: Stop running to your mommy every time you and Lindsay disagree and sharing every detail of your relationship with anyone who will agree with your point of view. Most importantly...get a JOB ...ANY job. To Kyle: Be a man, and also, get a haircut. It's no longer cute. To both of them, esp Kyle: Grow up and PLEASE stop crying so much. Here is my oversimplified theory of this HUGE problem: women are preventing their sons from becoming strong minded, truly confident men when they constantly treat them as if they are shining stars who can do no wrong. Please teach them some basic life skills. If they are not going to be the sole financial providers, then they need to know how to do things around the house (aside from playing video games.) I recall when my mom was alive, she frequently said that 'men are just children who get bigger.' I did not believe it at the time but, having lived my life, I now see that she apparently hit the nail right on the head with this statement. I think the Women's Lib movement was started by men. Why? Because, the end result was that, in addition to taking care of the home and the children and the spouse (and catering to the part of their body they have little control over), women got to to go work outside the home too! However, there was no adjustment made on the homefront for this critical change. As a result, women are quite literally killing themselves trying to accomplish ALL things, while having to set their needs and wants aside (because, after all, there are only so many hours in a given day.) I am sure there are good, solid and responsible men (who are not functioning solely as sperm donors who move in with you) out there somewhere. I just have not come across any (either personally or by proxy.) The last generation of men that I can think of who, for the most part, stepped up and into their 'role' was during WWII (not by going to war but rather by their content of their character and the resulting behaviors such as courting women, working and not being crybabies.) P.s. It really os ok to cry sometimes...just not EVERY time something does not go your way...this goes for women too.
These men child and pick me Danielle is really getting on my nerves they are so frustrating to watch. I mean Kyle crying in the car and Danielle hugging him was peak cringe.
Danielle is always in someone else relationship. Like Girl mind your business, nobody in that house ask Danielle how she felt. Producers please replace Danielle. Danielle is not that girl.
I understand where Kyle is coming from, he has to work his butt of to have what he has. Amanda wants, wants wants! Bills need to be paid, a company needs to function! No one understands that! He needs someone who can help pay the bills and has the drive he has.
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
People run businesses everyday - there are peaks and valleys. He can hire help for himself or outsource graphic design work for half Amanda's rate and have her approve on decisions or otherwise guide the team. If he's working 18hrs a day, he doesn't know how to properly delegate. That is one of the biggest pitfalls to being an entrepreneur. They don't need a new flavor each week, they just need to double down on popular flavors, have new merch each time bravo drops something clever, and improve on what works. This all can be done with Amanda working on the side - freelance designers work for 3 to 5 businesses on retainer at a time.
I used to support Kyle in previous seasons, but now I have negative feelings toward Jim. In the recent episodes, he manipulated Amanda by prioritizing his career over hers, which made her feel insignificant and devalued her beliefs. Amanda made sacrifices for his career, and his lack of consideration for her makes me suspect he might be a covert narcissist. It's concerning how Danielle reinforces his behavior by whispering in his ear about how great he is and how terrible Lindsay is, effectively insinuating that Amanda is emasculating him. However, she is wrong; Amanda is a great wife. "Pick me, Carl" also attempted to undermine their marriage, despite his relationship with Lindsay being over. Danielle needs to refrain from spreading false stories about Amanda when she knows they're untrue.
Why is she being accused of selfishness? She sacrificed her job, money, and time to support his career and passion. All she wants is to start her own apparel company, and she needs his support. It's unjust to label her as selfish when she's always been there for him. And why is Kyle starting another business, "DJing," instead of supporting his wife after all the help she's given him?
Unpopular opinion, Kyle has Millions invested, his company is tanking. Amanda started this venture with him and maybe she does not have to stick with it, if she desires to do other work. But her husband needs her support. He is struggling, and she should be there to support and get him thru this. Then do her own thing. Unless she just gives no fucks about losing millions and going bankrupt. Then girl, you do you.
Marriage goes through hills and valleys.....Amanda should have kept her independence at beginning....Change is tough once they have had it their way.....IMO
Page runs a VLOG. SHE'S NOT RUNNING A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY. OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE HES LETTING THEM CONVINCE HIM HES SELFISH!! AFTER HE'S WAITED ON HER HSND AND FOOT FOREVER!!
Amanda DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN A PRE-NUP before the wedding. She said: «I WON'T SIGN A PRE-NUP because if Kyle divorces me, I'LL GET HALF OF HIS COMPANY ALONG WITH THE MONEY». Those who haven't seen it can go and watch it in the sixth season of Summer house. Amanda MARRIED KYLE NOT FOR LOVE, BUT FOR MONEY! Amanda doesn't help Kyle with the business, even though she knows they have debts. And at the most difficult time, when Kyle asks Amanda for help and to be more involved in «Loverboy», she tells him that she wants to do something for herself (swimwear). Amanda is so SELFISH. Does Amanda realize that she lives on the money that Kyle earns by running "Loverboy" that needs help getting rid of debts? If "Loverboy" goes bankrupt, Amanda will go bankrupt too. With what money does Amanda want to start her own business selling fashionable swimwear? They both live on the profits from "Loverboy". If "Loverboy" goes broke, her dream of creating swimwear collections will not come true! Interestingly, Amanda doesn't want to work for "Loverboy", but wants to get half of the company along with the money if she and Kyle get divorced. It turns out that Amanda IS WAITING FOR KYLE TO GET RICH BY HIS OWN EFFORTS and "Loverboy" to begin to prosper, in order to divorce Kyle at that very moment. Amanda wants to get half of "Loverboy" along with the money WITHOUT INVESTING HER OWN EFFORTS in the prosperity of "Loverboy". SIGN A PRE-NUP AMANDA and then do whatever you want. I can see how treacherous you are Amanda. Amanda behaves as if Kyle is obliged to provide her with everything she wants. In my opinion, she doesn't love him and married him only for money. Amanda constantly speaks disparagingly to him in front of other people and behind his back. She should be ashamed. And she wonders why he is in no hurry to buy a house in the suburbs? Show more respect for your husband.
Amanda will ruin her marriage listening to these girls. Unless you are married, you have no idea what married life is like. Every decision you make, needs to be about the collective team, and yes you still need to find fulfilment on your own, but at the end of the day, Kyle is building this lover boy business for you and his future children. Does she not keep going on about living this quiet life with kids in the countryside, well that costs money! It makes no sense to now start a business venture that will take away money and attention, from their main source of income (Loverboy).
I couldn’t have said it better myself. She’s allowing her insecurities to guide her decisions. Your husband told you that Lover Boy is losing money meanwhile you’re saying “I want to start a bathing suit line” and “I want to move to a new house”. While she listens to Paige and Ciara who I love but are also not married and have no idea what it’s like to build a business with a husband
Let's look at what actually ended up happening from the after shows - no talk of kids, no moving to the suburbs - Amanda is still in the same situation- and Kyle went and spent thousands of dollars on dj lessons and equipment . . . A small dj setup worth anything is like 3k - they could have talked about something more feasible for Amanda like working for someone else, but she can't even talk about leaving or he flips out
Trauma Queen I agree with you 100%! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
They both should probably divorce. They spoke speak badly about each other, to each other and to the others! IMO, Amanda should seriously think about seeking professional help for her insecurities and seeming delicate mental state. Her constant crying and whining gets on my nerves.
Name ONE thing that has happened in Kyle and Amanda's entire relationship that is all about what Amanda wants. They live in the city, she halted her own career path to help Loverboy, she still works for Loverboy, she hasn't started her own project but Kyle has started his "dream" of being a DJ, they don't have kids and Kyle still parties like it's 1999 whenever he wants.
Kyle and Amanda seem to be in a toxic co-dependent dynamic. Amanda has poor boundaries and low self-esteem and chose a partner as a project, and expresses her frustration through passive aggressive behavior. Kyle is immature, impulsive, and combative and defensive. They are highly incompatible but probably ran with their physical compatibility and party days into trying to make a marriage work. Unless they get some serious counseling and change, I don't see them lasting more than a handful of more years.
Amanda is immature and listens to her friends wayy too much. First she wants a family then she wants to start her own company? Poor Kyle.. She sounds lazy like most modern girls these days
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
Yes that modern girl actually kept Loverboy afloat with her investment and designed the product line - and that modern girl wanted a family and when he said no we can't even begin to discuss it - she wanted to work at something else - and then he went to be a dj and she's in the same boat - sheesh she is so selfish - stay in line Amanda and do what kyle says!
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
Omg Lindsay I don’t trust I knew it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,does Amanda every see the books of the business? I can’t believe how much money uall r paying for rent waste of money if you all don’t make moves wow 😊
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle, you're the reason I started watching the show! Please sort out the things that connect you with Amanda. Please divorce her. I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate you. She talks to you disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love you!
Thank you West for hugging and loving on Jesse Solomon.
danielle is such a pick me. always wants to be liked by the guys
You took the words right out of my mouth...she's Soo understanding to men, never gives women such grace.
THAT!!!!!!
I don't know why I didn't see that before!
Danielle is another version of scheana........
The fact that the guys don't even see her as One of Them makes the whole situation even more pathetic
I can’t understand these comments or Carl and Danielle, Amanda dropped her whole career for Kyle…and she can’t start something new for herself so she can thrive as a person/spouse?! Not enough people understand that we must fill their own cup to be a better person for those around us.
“I’m doing this for our family” boy, there’s not going to be a future family if he throws temper tantrums and continues to not hear her out. Victim mentality at its finest ◡̈
Amanda CHOSE to be part of Kyle's business and grow it together. THAT is her job. She chose that and they are over a million dollars in debt and she wants to start "something else" that she doesn't even know what that is. Ciera and Paige got in her head. Kyle is right on this one. Amanda needs to grow up.
@@dcoleman4444 Yep.
@@beec219 victim mentality? Grow up, the man's building a future for the ungrateful childish cow.
@@dcoleman4444 A million dollar loss in a business is not a million dollars of debt necessarily. This is usually when a business cuts budgets and has sales to make up the loss since they have spent more than their sales have matched up to. Business finances are also separate from personal finances when you're at that level. And consider the fact that many graphic designers and creative directors have employees or are freelancing for multiple businesses simultaneously - she doesn't need to be in person day in and day out to get a new merch or packaging design approved or created. They have enough money to get a staff member or two to help calm down the chaos. Kyle working 18hr days is showing inefficiency, not passion.
I guess i dont understand all the vitriol towards Amanda. She kept them afloat financially while he was starting this business. She came up with designs. He belittles her, calls her lazy and feels like he doesn't trust her to have kids right now.
He doesn't appreciate what she does to help him. Yet he is over 40, drinks all the time, slurred speach drunk, stays out all night and she's the immature one?!? How on earth can he be surprised she wants to do something for herself especially when she is saying she will still be there for his company.
Why wouldn't he want her to bring more money to the household. I use to think she was being very mean to him at the beginning of the season, but now i totally see why. Im hoping they get marriage counseling and work it out, but i gotta be honest and say i feel like they don't appear very compatible. He has already cheated....im surprised she forgave that and married him. I know that's forever on her mind when he stays out late. And since they are not getting along, I bet it wouldn't take much for him to do it again.
Agree on all counts. The main problem is his drinking and it's never discussed in an honest way. I'll never understand why her parents didn't try to stop her from marrying an alcoholic.
@@fififirestone3787 Exactly! They discuss Carl's alcoholism, but won't discuss that Kyle seems to have an issue with alcohol too. Which is weird that he has a company dedicated to alcohol. I feel like he needs to address it and nip it in the bud before it becomes as bad as Carl's was.
He’s already worse than what Carl was! But Amanda is no angel either!She was all about the company when it was time for her to not sign a prenup. She was not about to sign a prenup. She knew what she was doing so let’s call it like we see it!
Kyle's meltdown is out of line. She's the creative mind behind the brand so they can outsource or make more systems to be more efficient to allow her to do her own thing on the side. Why is he the only one allowed to go after his dreams? I also loathe him comparing her dream to his wanting to be a DJ. Your dream was to make a beverage brand, you're doing that - if it was to be a DJ you should have done so instead of starting a brand, her dream is a swim brand, let her do that and hire someone else to either help her or yourself to make the business more efficient.
no but lindsey is soooooo FUN being friends with all the girls. like libdsay cooking for aall of them bringing ciara a plate like… CAN WE KEEP THIS GOING🥹
Really hoping next summer being post breakup and all that it’s a girls summer!!!!
Especially after all the BS from the other girls towards Lindsey lol. Idk how she just moves past everything because I would never forget. I clearly need to work on my pettiness because they wouldn’t get anything out of me lol 😭. Good to see the maturity and positivity though!
Danielle who are you SCHEANNA?! You just watched this man throw something at the wall and call his wife a b -I-tech. Stand up
Carl has a lot of nerve trying to console Kyle by telling him Amanda doesn’t support his business.
I used to like Kyle but I’m starting to understand why him and Carl are friends.
The two of them are constantly blame shifting.
Yeah I wouldn’t say she doesn’t support LoverBoy but I would say that her timing with the bathing suit is bad especially since Kyle told her LoverBoy is losing money meanwhile Amanda wants him to now divide his time to help her start a bathing suit line.
Lol I prefer the blond Carl vs the other Carl
@kennethiavail1719 We could argue it was bad timing for her to leave her successful career to take care of Kyle's bills as he built his business too. Designing swimwear can be time consuming, but it can also be a side job just how many graphic designers have full time day jobs and freelance to build their portfolios on the side. The company is also big enough to hire a graphic designer and allow Amanda to approve and guide them instead of doing everything herself which would free up time and improve efficiency.
@@rrdcreates well Amanda made that decision to leave her job. They should’ve been hired a different graphic designer. Also the way Amanda was speaking , she wants Kyle to help her start the line and that’s a lot to ask someone to support their own business that’s in the red while also helping you start your business. If anything, she should start her own business and allow Kyle to focus on LoverBoy while he hires a new graphic designer so she can focus on her dreams. The business is obviously hurting their marriage so they need to remove it and focus on their individual career passions.
@@kennethiavail1719she was harassed and pressured into it. We all saw it on our screens. You can't lie about it, it's literally on film the amount of times he harassed and pressured her. Carl and Danielle are jokes. Danielle is obsessed with Carl and sees any girl as competition
Team Amanda and Team Lindsay
Amen! Wimps!
Lindsey has been crazy every season.
@@adventuresofSho so what?? It’s literally the name of the game with Bravo….you haven’t figured that out yet?
Danielle please zip it! Really? 😂
Amanda deserves sooooo much better than
him. She gave him money and helped him stay afloat when he needed it, quit her job to work for him, created the best selling flavour and designs.
The only one sinking this ship is him! I don’t wanna buy alcohol from a man who treats his wife so poorly.
Calls her lazy, says he would fire her if she wasn’t his wife, says she doesn’t do anything, bashes her publicly all the time, never gives her credit, yells at her for years and cheats on her. It’s sad, and it’s abusive and narcissistic behaviour. She deserves to be happy and have a partnership, she also is supporting his dumb DJ career but she can’t have a passion project. Only he can, OK
Amanda bashes Kyle publicly constantly. And wasn't it her dad who gave Kyle the loan and Kyle is worried about repaying it? But Amanda is crying about fulfilling herself, which she should have done before she fucking got married!
Lmao ummm I think he’s done way more for her
Danielle really is the worst.
I cannot stand her. Ever since winter house this season oh my gosh I saw the real Danielle and I don't like her
man, Danielle always has the WORST takes
She’s driving me nuts!!!!
Now Danielle is in Kyle's business like she in Carl's the season before.
Happy for Lindsey that she is growing friendships and support in the house with out Carl and Danielle keeping her secluded and delusional
Struggling and he has been for years it's not easy. However Amanda if you're not going to give her a house in New Jersey or children. Please let her have something of her own? From what I understand she's a very talented talented graphic designer. What's a woman do something creative for God's sake. Come on
Maybe Kyle should stop getting drunk on his own merchandise every weekend looking like an absolute fool. If he's not concerned about his company maybe he should start there yeah
Prayers for sweet Jesse….that his cancer has not returned❤
I was so glad to hear in a recent interview that Jesse is in good health and that his screening went well.
@@tsuji1614 Praise the Lord!🙏🏻❣️🙏🏻
Jesse Soloman...❤🙏
“Our Amish wife Lindsay she’s from Florida” 💀💀💀💀💀💀
“Okay Albany” 💀💀💀💀💀
I don't know, Amanda is allowed to pursue what she wants to pursue. Kyle can always get someone to fill her position, like Carl. Carl is also annoying, Lindsey dodged a bullet. Also, I want to hug Jesse ❤.
If Kyle and Amanda’s genders were reversed, I doubt many people would have a problem with Amanda’s desire for an identity. Would it seem unreasonable if it were a man saying he wanted to follow his own career path and not be told by his wife that he has to work for her?
Bingo!!!
I personally don't think that's the problem. I think it's the way she speaks to and about him so they're not able to communicate more effectively to see each others side of things
Literally Carl and Lindsay.
Danielle? She doesn't count - 🤣
I used to be on Kyle's side, but now I have negative feelings towards him. In the recent episodes, he manipulated Amanda by prioritizing his career over hers, which made her feel insignificant and devalued her beliefs. Amanda made sacrifices for his career, and his lack of consideration for her makes me suspect he might be a covert narcissist. It's concerning how Danielle reinforces his behavior by whispering in his ear about how great he is and how terrible Amanda is, effectively insinuating that Amanda is emasculating him. However, she is wrong; Amanda is a great wife. "Pick me, Carl" also attempted to undermine their marriage despite his relationship with Lindsay being over. Danielle needs to refrain from spreading false stories about Amanda when she knows they're untrue.
lol I’m the opposite. I used to be on Amanda’s side, and I do see where she’s coming from. But overall, I’m team Kyle
YUCK - Kyle is insufferable
AMANDA HELPED FUND HIS BUSINESS…. The delusion
Kyle reminds me of the Tom's from VPR in that they're 40 some year old men behaving like 20 year olds.
All about how you age when your hot you don't rush growing up
Although Kyle is a bit better than Tom.
I think Kyle knows Amanda talent, is afraid of loosing her and jealous how she can accomplish so much (design and stuff) without working 100 hours per day. So he makes her feel lazy and make her lose confidence to start something for herself. Thank God for friends like Ciara and Paige❤
I am not understanding how Amanda wanting something of her own is about Kyle, or Amanda not appreciating him? Also, Danielle shut up!
It was Kyle’s concept and brain, but Amanda’s brain behind the brand is why Lover Boy took off. She has put her work in for his company and there is nothing wrong with them as a married couple agreeing with Amanda pursuing her dream. He’s unhappy because she’s unhappy. He is living out one of his dreams and not allowing her to pursue or live out her dreams is very selfish. Not to mention he is starting to pursue his dreams as a DJ. Really really…
Really really he needs to stop. He is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too old to react this way just because Amanda wants to do her own thing. I really don’t get the tantrum from him💔 I mean they’re still married she’s not leaving him. Carl needs to go work period
It's heartbreaking what Jesse is going thru. Glad he has West and Ciara..love those three together.
Ciara called him a pig and said she’d never introduce him to her friends. Yet she dated Austen Kroll who is the world’s biggest F*ck boy. I don’t think she has Jesse’s back.
Their marriage won't make it with the level of petty between Amanda and Kyle.
Marriage is putting in more than your spouse sometimes, it's holding each other up in a us against them manner. They're supposed to be a team.
Daniel needs to get booted off the show already. She’s irritating as hell
Her storyline is so boring!
She’s bored of her own self, that’s why she’s so busy in everyone else’s business 🙄 Drop her please!
Kyle turns on the tears like a faucet, that crap would get on my last nerve. Like stop with the manipulation tears
That planted palm gettin a lot of screen time
“I was really hoping I could” SOOO REAL FOR THAT 😭😭😭😭
Danielle and Carl do not understand what just happened.
I am team Amanda 100 percent. Kyle behaves like a child and is, IMO, lucky that Amanda stuck around and married him. In the most recent episode, as Kyle is walking down the stairs, he says 'I need to be fed.' Dude...make yourself something to eat and feed yourself. Or, maybe you would prefer that Amanda get you a highchair and bib and then spoon feed you, all the while ensuring your company stays successful. My point: Amanda is NOT your mommy. Same with Carl who wants Lindsay to be 'soft.' Does he not know her? I have seen her behaviors long enough to realize that 'soft' is not a word anyone would use to describe Lindsay, and that is ok. How can she be 'soft' when she is forced to go into the world and be the sole financial provider because Carl cannot 'find himself' and has not worked for a year. Then, he takes off, while having a big baby tantrum..leaving her with her luggage... without so much as a goodbye. It was already bad enough he did not offer to carry her luggage.
My advice to Carl: Stop running to your mommy every time you and Lindsay disagree and sharing every detail of your relationship with anyone who will agree with your point of view. Most importantly...get a JOB ...ANY job.
To Kyle: Be a man, and also, get a haircut. It's no longer cute.
To both of them, esp Kyle: Grow up and PLEASE stop crying so much.
Here is my oversimplified theory of this HUGE problem: women are preventing their sons from becoming strong minded, truly confident men when they constantly treat them as if they are shining stars who can do no wrong. Please teach them some basic life skills. If they are not going to be the sole financial providers, then they need to know how to do things around the house (aside from playing video games.)
I recall when my mom was alive, she frequently said that 'men are just children who get bigger.' I did not believe it at the time but, having lived my life, I now see that she apparently hit the nail right on the head with this statement.
I think the Women's Lib movement was started by men. Why? Because, the end result was that, in addition to taking care of the home and the children and the spouse (and catering to the part of their body they have little control over), women got to to go work outside the home too! However, there was no adjustment made on the homefront for this critical change. As a result, women are quite literally killing themselves trying to accomplish ALL things, while having to set their needs and wants aside (because, after all, there are only so many hours in a given day.)
I am sure there are good, solid and responsible men (who are not functioning solely as sperm donors who move in with you) out there somewhere. I just have not come across any (either personally or by proxy.)
The last generation of men that I can think of who, for the most part, stepped up and into their 'role' was during WWII (not by going to war but rather by their content of their character and the resulting behaviors such as courting women, working and not being crybabies.)
P.s. It really os ok to cry sometimes...just not EVERY time something does not go your way...this goes for women too.
They will 100% end up divorcing.
These men child and pick me Danielle is really getting on my nerves they are so frustrating to watch. I mean Kyle crying in the car and Danielle hugging him was peak cringe.
Danielle is always in someone else relationship. Like Girl mind your business, nobody in that house ask Danielle how she felt. Producers please replace Danielle. Danielle is not that girl.
The only relationship I support in this house is West and Jesse ❤. The rest of this is toxic.
Carl is blowing so much smoke up Kyle - I guess women are to be seen and not heard.
OF COURSE Danielle Thee Misogynist has Kyle's back
I really hope they address kyles anger..he has a blow up every summer. He acts like a child...
love it the last sentence 6:47 danielle dosenst count
Danielle shouldn't write her own lines, took me years to say this
It's crazy that he never even asked what she wanted to do
"Im not a morning person" haha i feel the same way i only get up because i have to go to work. Also carl handled that kitchen convo horribly
You guys. Kyle crying gives me nausea. However, Jesse crying makes me empathetic.
It's because Kyle is ALWAYS crying
Carl and Daniel need to stop trama bonding on not having jobs
But she is CEO and founder😂😂
@@sallyhr lol of delusion
Petition to get Danielle off our screens
I understand where Kyle is coming from, he has to work his butt of to have what he has. Amanda wants, wants wants! Bills need to be paid, a company needs to function! No one understands that! He needs someone who can help pay the bills and has the drive he has.
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
@@natalysentifconson-zj2gxhi Kyle
People run businesses everyday - there are peaks and valleys. He can hire help for himself or outsource graphic design work for half Amanda's rate and have her approve on decisions or otherwise guide the team. If he's working 18hrs a day, he doesn't know how to properly delegate. That is one of the biggest pitfalls to being an entrepreneur. They don't need a new flavor each week, they just need to double down on popular flavors, have new merch each time bravo drops something clever, and improve on what works. This all can be done with Amanda working on the side - freelance designers work for 3 to 5 businesses on retainer at a time.
I used to support Kyle in previous seasons, but now I have negative feelings toward Jim. In the recent episodes, he manipulated Amanda by prioritizing his career over hers, which made her feel insignificant and devalued her beliefs. Amanda made sacrifices for his career, and his lack of consideration for her makes me suspect he might be a covert narcissist. It's concerning how Danielle reinforces his behavior by whispering in his ear about how great he is and how terrible Lindsay is, effectively insinuating that Amanda is emasculating him. However, she is wrong; Amanda is a great wife. "Pick me, Carl" also attempted to undermine their marriage, despite his relationship with Lindsay being over. Danielle needs to refrain from spreading false stories about Amanda when she knows they're untrue.
Why is she being accused of selfishness? She sacrificed her job, money, and time to support his career and passion. All she wants is to start her own apparel company, and she needs his support. It's unjust to label her as selfish when she's always been there for him. And why is Kyle starting another business, "DJing," instead of supporting his wife after all the help she's given him?
Kyle needs to stop drinking
He is drunk you cannot talk to a drunk person.
West and Jesse are the best things to ever happen to summer house.
100% agree..love those guys! And Ciara with them.
Eek Danielle is hard to watch.. she is just taking cringe to new levels.
Unpopular opinion, Kyle has Millions invested, his company is tanking. Amanda started this venture with him and maybe she does not have to stick with it, if she desires to do other work. But her husband needs her support. He is struggling, and she should be there to support and get him thru this. Then do her own thing. Unless she just gives no fucks about losing millions and going bankrupt. Then girl, you do you.
I really love this show, but will the producers. Please upload the new episodes to TH-cam. I paid for these! No, not even Vanderpump rules is up!
They stream it on peacock the next day totally worth it
Marriage goes through hills and valleys.....Amanda should have kept her independence at beginning....Change is tough once they have had it their way.....IMO
Page runs a VLOG. SHE'S NOT RUNNING A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY.
OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE HES LETTING THEM CONVINCE HIM HES SELFISH!! AFTER HE'S WAITED ON HER HSND AND FOOT FOREVER!!
I remember reading somewhere that these ladies just chill in bed until they r being filmed 😴
Mood
If Danielle has your back, you’re probably in the wrong
Amanda DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN A PRE-NUP before the wedding. She said: «I WON'T SIGN A PRE-NUP because if Kyle divorces me, I'LL GET HALF OF HIS COMPANY ALONG WITH THE MONEY». Those who haven't seen it can go and watch it in the sixth season of Summer house. Amanda MARRIED KYLE NOT FOR LOVE, BUT FOR MONEY! Amanda doesn't help Kyle with the business, even though she knows they have debts. And at the most difficult time, when Kyle asks Amanda for help and to be more involved in «Loverboy», she tells him that she wants to do something for herself (swimwear). Amanda is so SELFISH. Does Amanda realize that she lives on the money that Kyle earns by running "Loverboy" that needs help getting rid of debts? If "Loverboy" goes bankrupt, Amanda will go bankrupt too. With what money does Amanda want to start her own business selling fashionable swimwear? They both live on the profits from "Loverboy". If "Loverboy" goes broke, her dream of creating swimwear collections will not come true! Interestingly, Amanda doesn't want to work for "Loverboy", but wants to get half of the company along with the money if she and Kyle get divorced. It turns out that Amanda IS WAITING FOR KYLE TO GET RICH BY HIS OWN EFFORTS and "Loverboy" to begin to prosper, in order to divorce Kyle at that very moment. Amanda wants to get half of "Loverboy" along with the money WITHOUT INVESTING HER OWN EFFORTS in the prosperity of "Loverboy". SIGN A PRE-NUP AMANDA and then do whatever you want. I can see how treacherous you are Amanda. Amanda behaves as if Kyle is obliged to provide her with everything she wants. In my opinion, she doesn't love him and married him only for money. Amanda constantly speaks disparagingly to him in front of other people and behind his back. She should be ashamed. And she wonders why he is in no hurry to buy a house in the suburbs? Show more respect for your husband.
Kyle crying about being an adult while throwing a temper tantrum is gross
Amanda will ruin her marriage listening to these girls. Unless you are married, you have no idea what married life is like. Every decision you make, needs to be about the collective team, and yes you still need to find fulfilment on your own, but at the end of the day, Kyle is building this lover boy business for you and his future children. Does she not keep going on about living this quiet life with kids in the countryside, well that costs money! It makes no sense to now start a business venture that will take away money and attention, from their main source of income (Loverboy).
I couldn’t have said it better myself. She’s allowing her insecurities to guide her decisions. Your husband told you that Lover Boy is losing money meanwhile you’re saying “I want to start a bathing suit line” and “I want to move to a new house”. While she listens to Paige and Ciara who I love but are also not married and have no idea what it’s like to build a business with a husband
Let's look at what actually ended up happening from the after shows - no talk of kids, no moving to the suburbs - Amanda is still in the same situation- and Kyle went and spent thousands of dollars on dj lessons and equipment . . . A small dj setup worth anything is like 3k - they could have talked about something more feasible for Amanda like working for someone else, but she can't even talk about leaving or he flips out
Trauma Queen I agree with you 100%! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
They both should probably divorce. They spoke speak badly about each other, to each other and to the others! IMO, Amanda should seriously think about seeking professional help for her insecurities and seeming delicate mental state. Her constant crying and whining gets on my nerves.
Name ONE thing that has happened in Kyle and Amanda's entire relationship that is all about what Amanda wants. They live in the city, she halted her own career path to help Loverboy, she still works for Loverboy, she hasn't started her own project but Kyle has started his "dream" of being a DJ, they don't have kids and Kyle still parties like it's 1999 whenever he wants.
Kyle and Amanda seem to be in a toxic co-dependent dynamic. Amanda has poor boundaries and low self-esteem and chose a partner as a project, and expresses her frustration through passive aggressive behavior. Kyle is immature, impulsive, and combative and defensive. They are highly incompatible but probably ran with their physical compatibility and party days into trying to make a marriage work. Unless they get some serious counseling and change, I don't see them lasting more than a handful of more years.
Kyle should have given her a part of the business to make her feel it’s HER business as well. Now he’s crying she wants her own company.
You don't get it. Her heart is not into HIS business. That's not HER dream. She's just there to help and support. She wants her OWN dream.
what are all the packages of at the front door?
My thoughts exactly! Does someone else rent the house out during the week and maybe those are their packages?
Kyle's drinks are in those boxes. And all that in their hands is his drinks. No one probable even likes them.Amanda designed the cans.
Not Paige shading Florida when she's from ALBANY please!
Kyle and Lyndsey doing the most, last season it was Danielle, these season is their time.
Amanda needs to check kyle on how he run and lies about her role in their relationship and take a break so he can appreciate her
I am so on Amanda n Hubbards side Carl n Kyle i just cant this season.
Get out now Kyle cooke!! Im telling you!!
GO AWAY DANIELLE.
Kyle is a master manipulator, I must admit he IS likable but still it is what it is
Danielle is like Scheana from Vanderpump Rules … it’s almost like they crave and seek validation from men, basically a “pick me” …
Ciera sleeps a lot.
Kyle, I feel ya…. In America we live to work… Sad but true..
This is all so fake and contrived bickering
Danielle makes me cringe so badly. She is not a girls’ girl.
😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤
I'm on Amanda side but I think Kyle's bipolar and he let his drinking get the best of him
Kile cry 😢 his drunk 🥴 😭 i feel bad for him tho
Amanda is immature and listens to her friends wayy too much. First she wants a family then she wants to start her own company? Poor Kyle.. She sounds lazy like most modern girls these days
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
Yes that modern girl actually kept Loverboy afloat with her investment and designed the product line - and that modern girl wanted a family and when he said no we can't even begin to discuss it - she wanted to work at something else - and then he went to be a dj and she's in the same boat - sheesh she is so selfish - stay in line Amanda and do what kyle says!
I like kyle....they won't be married long
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
They just need to accept theyre different people. Its better to quit now.
Hoping danielle doesn’t come back
Omg Lindsay I don’t trust I knew it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,does Amanda every see the books of the business? I can’t believe how much money uall r paying for rent waste of money if you all don’t make moves wow 😊
Amanda acts like a spoiled child
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
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It breaks my heart when Kyle cries 😢
I agree with you! Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle is the reason I started watching the show! Kyle needs to sort out the things that connect him with Amanda. Kyle needs to divorce her! I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate Kyle. She talks to him disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love him!
I'm not falling for his crocodile tears.
This is the CORNIEST shit ever
Kyle is a great guy and so funny and hardworking. Kyle, you're the reason I started watching the show! Please sort out the things that connect you with Amanda. Please divorce her. I'm so tired of her. She's so selfish and doesn't appreciate you. She talks to you disparagingly all the time, even in front of other people in the room. She doesn't love you!
Amanda used to be way more fun. Before her flat hair days. She's not that likeable anymore.. she seems miserable.
I agreed abit the thing is kile is a social guy and Her she is a lonely woman want kile for herself.