Received the shipping confirmation for my Radon Render 8.0 today. It's gonna be my 1st E trailbike so I am pretty excited. Thanks for your helping while I chose the rigt bike 4 me, Sam!
I bought the Propain Ekano 165mm. Lead time was about a month. Customer service was quite simply brilliant. One of the best I have dealt with. I agree the customisation could be abit better, but the fact you can is much better than other brands. I just specced the cheapest option on brakes and bought some Hopes and sold the oem brakes as new when they arrived. For the spec, Fox suspension etc nothing else came close in price. It rides awesome.
Got the Cube 160 for my first ebike. Best purchase of my life :) Compared to acoustic bikes it's 50% of work and 150% of fun - bombing trails almost every day.
@@Extremegaz25 I love it! The suspension is plush, it rolls over chunky rock like it's nothing. The only issue I have is cornering--doesn't seem to corner as tight as my downhill bike. But, putting a new DHR 2 on the rear with cushcore tomorrow and switching the front to the Assegai. Hoping that will help with cornering a bit. Other than that, it a great bike that I would recommend to anyone.
I’ve recently had a go on a couple of E bikes, and after a loooooooong period off not riding off-road, I’m hooked. Love the look and price of the YT decoy and luckily can get it on a cycle to work scheme so pay monthly via my wages and get a big discount.
Thanks for another informative video. I’ve still not dipped a toe into the emtb market but some really tempting ones out there. I do wonder what we will see coming out in the next couple of months...
Awesome channel thanks! Well put together videos,been looking at a trek rail at LBS,I've had a yt for couple of years their customer service is great..sooo many ebikes to choose from now haha. And then there is wheel size too!!
Nice work Sam !! Missed a few Canadian bikes, particularly the rockey mtn power play and, the Norco sight and range are E-mtb industry leading in many ways. check-em out for next year !!! cheers !
Forwarded this to a friend looking for his first e bike as it’s a good level headed assessment apart for your apparent love of the Shimano dated motors. I think the new Bosch gen 4 motor and battery size sets new standards in this ever exciting technologically expanding industry. Great to see prices are beginning to get reasonable and the emergence of great new brands.
Looking at the Scott Genius eRide 920. My local dealer got one in and I helped unbox it and OMG is that thing gorgeous!!! On their website it looks all green but it's not. It's grey base with green pearl over the top is awesome as it looks almost like color change at different angles.
Sam’s Bikes because it costs 6.000€ to get the 160 Actionteam that has the same equipment as the 140 SL which costs only 4.500€ And the 160 only offers 27,5” wheels whereas the 140 comes with the 29” wheels which I find to be an enormous improvement. What’s your opinion?
Interesting video and well explained, not really sure if they should be regarded as budget bikes tho. More upper mid range really in my opinion. Good bang for your buck perhaps. Do not get me wrong I do not mean budget bikes should be 500 Euro Amazon specials (as they will be crap) I will/do/have spent 3000-5000 on various EMTB's and standard MTB's, but if you are new to EMTB and want entry level into the sport you can get something for 1500 - 2500 which may not come with Fox 36's but will make a great upgradable platform as your interest increases.
Thanks for the comment, I kinda wanted to fine the best bikes for Emtb more aggressive style these were my picks maybe you can get some for less but not sure they would last long.
Kerry thanks for the kind words I’m very sorry but Australia only accounts for 8% of my views also it looks really ugly having so many different prices, also Aussie prices change more often. Sorry mate not much I can do!
@@kerryyaxley6018 ill try mate... but they change so much because the market is small and all bike prices are set off the euro and the USD.. but ill try just for you haha
I'd look at the Commencal Meta Power 29 as my pick. Also aluminium frames are good with integrated batteries as they help dissipate the heat the batteries put out when in use. There are designs with the Carbon frames to help but they can end up being fowled or have issues with moisture entering in the vents. Be interesting to know of long term all weather riding and the effects of moisture on the carbon vented frames. How does the Kona 435mm chain stays go when tackling tech climbs? Is the seat enough forward to keep the front end from lofting under power?
Thanks for watching totally agree with all you said, I’m pretty sure the Kona will climb well enough, at the end of the day you need to know what you want a climber a downhiller or a bit of both! The meta 29er is a nice nice bike as well
7:54 luckily everyones taste is different ;) for me it is the best looking bike out of all in 2020, especially the 140 HPC TM version. The frame design looks so clean and aggressive compared to other bikes. Just to give an example: for me the radon bikes and specialized kenevo and levo frame designs looks just like a mess ... again, its just personal taste ;)
Totally mate!! Everyone is different that what makes the world turn. I’m not a person that wouldn’t buy a bike for its looks but when there are so many good ones coming out in 2020 it does count!!!! Keep riding
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As I've seen you test both bikes, can you give me your opinion on the Commensal Mata Power compared to the Canyon Torque.On 9? If you had to choose between the 2, which would it be? I've had my eye on the Canyon for a while now but have heard great things about the Commensal... HELP!!!
Sam, been watching all of your Decoy content and noticed the sound quality on this video was spot on. Could you let me know what microphone you have sitting on your table? Thanks!
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Great job on the video! Glad you mentioned shorter riders... I'm looking to trade up from my 2000 Gary Fisher to an eMTB her e in US. I'm a short rider at 5'1" (71cm inseam). Looking at Mainly all around trail riding In the 3500 EU range, which of the bikes you covered could work for me? Keep up the awesome job!
Hey mate maybe if you can up your budget a little I would looks at a lighter 27 or mullet. Maybe the canyon looks good at 21kg. There is also an option of changing the bike to 27 front and back buy changing the airspring in the forks with is a very simple and cheap upgrade
Great video with the timing that I get AFIB sometimes riding and when I get it I cant ride uphill. The last time I got it one rider in the group let me ride his Spec Levo (with upgraded and increased travel). Now I'm converted and looking. My current bike is a YT Jeffsy 27.5 2018. I notice there are more 29 or mullet bikes with not many 27.5 apart from 2019 Merida or Kona remote which has just been reduced in price. The Trek rail 7 looks ok and are getting cheaper when on sale , do you think I could stick a 27.5 rear wheel on? Cheers from Auckland NZ
Hey Grant, thanks for the comment... to be honest the Merida is a banging bike.. have you seen my review of the 10K? well its not really a review I talk to my mate that has one and he loves it... I have actually changed my decoy to 27 front and back I like it more but each to there own.. Im sure you could change the Rail to a mullet but might be best just to go for a Merida seeing the prices are so good in oz and nz... good luck let us know how you go. Sam
Looking to buy my first emtb, I need help up the hills!. Fell in love with the Radon through watching this video = but they don't ship to OZ! Do you know of any workarounds?
Nice information, I'm kinda looking at two short lists that fit my pocket. I'm kinda undecided though! , could any one help? , my choice are between the lapierre Overvolt am 6.5 and the decathlon stylus!? I've set a budget of £3500, Q, are there any better out there for money, cheers
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Very interesting video as always with simple and understandable words. I owe a 2019 kenevo and I am very happy riding it but, as always, searching the market for new things. I know is not easy to talk about all the range of ebikes are nowadays in the market but, please, could you do next a video talking about Orbea Wild fs? I think it has a good chance in the aluminium frame... Sorry for my english...I try my best Keep doing good videos, you do a great job. Saludos desde Euskal Herria!! / Pais Vasco!!
Your English is great much better than my Spanish! You know my first list had the wild af but I took it out as I had to many bikes and it didn’t make the cut I’ll try and ride one soon it does look like a great option. Thanks for watching rider
Great selection of bikes but I don’t think you can beat the vitus sommet vrx £4200 and spec doesn’t get much better the motor for me is the best out there and you can de restrict to 20 mph with the app you can’t do that with the Bosch or the brose hope this helps someone 👍
Thanks for watching mate! They are pretty similar bikes I like the look of the decoy more but I’m sure on the trail they would both handle well. Can you test a cube?!
If it feels good and your happy with the shop then maybe it’s the go! Decoy is a great bike as well but if something goes wrong could be a pain in the ass even more so this year.
Yea tested the kenevo check my channel out I review it, I like the kenevo better for dh but the reign over the kenevo for dh but as over all I like the decoy for a more all purpose bike
The cube is the one can’t beat the whole package and price. The model under this one with 140mm travel and Fox 34 goes for 4500. An amazing deal. Specialized is too expensive for what you get.
I’m thinking of getting the giant trance e +2 pro but cannot find too much about it, are there any bike that stand out as the best for around that £4K mark?
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i picked up a Bulls Evo Estream AM 4 for $4500 (US)...a ton of bike for the price. admittedly, a bit too planted (not pop n' play), but my wallet loves it. and sexy af with a Brose-S motor (650 wh battery)
Hi Sam, can you explain why did you say that Kona has bad tires choice, what's wrong with Maxxis Minion DHF, and DHR??? What tires would you recommended?
I don't think the average rider is going to make a bad purchase with any of these choices. All of them seem to be capable machines. The YT battery being proprietary does hurt a bit.
Do you not have Haibike where you are? They have crazy deals and sales on them from bike shops, not the listed Website price from Haibike though. Got my 2019 all mountain 2.0 for $2500 USD.
@@TheDennisRobb Thanks. The bike is wicked with top notch components. I like the 2.0 too, almost bought it. I think you have the Side Switch interface. Go to Crazy Lenny's/Madison.WI and check the deals. They ship via UPS. Cheers!
Hey David my next video in the buyers guide is going to help people make that decision, but tell me how much experience do you have, what do you like doing enduro or more all day rides?
Your weight will pretty much limit you to Giant. Most brands have a total rider/bike weight limit of 120kg, Specialized 130kg, Norco 136kg, Merida goes to 140kg, Giant is 156kg.
Currently almost all E-Mtn Bikes are manufactured to international standards ISO 4210 and EN 15194. This standard needs to be exceeded for EMTB. Have a read here. ebike-mtb.com/en/too-heavy-for-e-bike/
Thought you said sub 5K and then listed a super 5K, anyway, we all have our favourites, usually the one we bought, so.. The Haibike full seven 1.0 at £2250 is a bargain, you can upgrade as you want, but you start with a very rideable bike. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.
I was really interested in the Propain, but they only ship to Europe. Anybody know why? they certainly don't have a problem shipping their German cars to the Americas and Asia. They're also out of the most popular Large size completely. So, 2 strikes. Pretty limited company. As for the YT, they won't ship until the very end of July. That leaves 1.5 months of riding if you're in a cold climate.
Yes Propain just have not worked out it all out yet! I think it’s actually keeping up with demand. They Have only just opened up to USA. Where you living?’ Oz and nz are having amazing deals on Merida which is a creaking bike
@@SamsBikes Thanks for replying. I'm in Canada. I contacted Propain yesterday and they were quick to reply. They said they're working on making their bikes available in Canada but could take some time (I'm assuming not until next year? who knows). They also said they can't tell when the large frames will be available again. I'll keep an eye out on them.
No it doesn't, it has the same components but I'm pretty sure the 2020 Decoy suspension has significantly better tuning for an ebike and is a big improvement.
@@craigjensen321 I think you have been watching the Loam Wolf? to be honest the bike comes with the same suspension and when they say it comes with a better tuning this is just setting the the suspension up. So its the Same bike some suspension but YT and pt better settings on the shocks from factory but this is something you would do the first day riding it. Thanks for watching
@@SamsBikes Hey Sam, I don't remember where I read it but I was doing plenty of research before I ordered my Decoy. I have gone for the 29r Pro as it is more suited to my riding. I was looking at the discounted 2019 Pro Race but it sold out. I had a Lapierre Overvolt 927i which was nice to ride but the frame snapped after 6months. Great channel buddy love the content 👍
@@craigjensen321 Ah. Finally I saw your Lapierre Type. I had a Lapierre Overvolt 627i which snapped as well. Currently I'm trying to get a refund for it. Hopefully I get that cleared. If yes I'll try to get a Commencal Meta Power from 2021... let's see. Anyway, Lapierre never again. Did you get a refund for your Lapierre easily?
@@SamsBikes you can get the Instinct BC Edition Alloy 50 for $5499 USD and the Altitude Alloy 50 for $5549 USD. Both are Shimano SLX builds with MT520 4 pot brakes f/r.
Sune Groennebaek it took 1 week for payment (There was a small problem on my side) then 1 week to ship and 1 week to arrive :) the bike is awesome btw!
As for the Stilus, it is not made BY, it is made FOR Decathlon by Italian bike company. I've done some research because I was thinking about purchasing one. Decathlon had to throw something into the market while they are working on their own, new, modern, up-to-date spec EMTB.
@@SamsBikes www.sportsprofi.com/Sportarten/Fahrrad/Fahrraeder/Elektrofahrraeder/Elektrobike-27-5-Merida-eOne-Sixty-900E-2019-41cm-gruen.html?ref=go& I have another dealer wich have one like mine(size L) in black for 4650,-(last week), but they dont have an online-shop. If size L is an option for you, i could ask if they would ship the bike to spain!
Hi sam Please could you do a review on a giant trance e3 or e2 pro. I'm a big guy over 100kg so want something that will handle my weight. Reason I'm looking at these is cost, e3 in uk £3599 and e2 just under 4k. Giant dealer close to me too and they offer a 0% finance deal. Availability is limited too on most other bikes due to record ebike sales in uk and giant seem to offer the best finance deals. Reason for asking you is quite simple, you give honest and unbiased reviews and the bikes get tested properly for all uses, DH, trail and cross country. Please help me out thanks
Hey Lloyd great idea, I won't be able to test it but I have ridden the big brother the Reign and its a great bike. Can you tell me a little bit more about you? How long have you been riding for? how's your fitness, on a normal ride how far would you like to ride? do you ride in a group or on your own and if you ride in a group what is the fitness like of your group... loads of questions I know but it will help me give you some advice. Sam
@@SamsBikes hi sam. My fitness is shocking, I was quite fit around 18 months ago and was road cycling and doing the odd triathlon, but I had cancer and the tumour was so big in my leg it snapped my femur in 2. On the up side I have had the all clear and a new hip now. I want back into mountain biking like i did when i was a kid. Mainly for riding around mountains and exploring. Problem is I guarantee that soon as I start riding and my fitness gets better I know I'll be hitting the DH and tech trails so I want to buy something that will be capable and able to do all. And mostly riding on my own through weeks and groups on weekends
@@lloydwiggins9370 ok I'm getting the picture now and glad you got the all ok, Ebike is the perfect way to get fit again. One more thing when you ride how long do you want to ride for? and do you want to ride with fitter people in a group? I'm a little worried about the battery size.. I'm defo going to do a video for you I just want all the information so I can get you the best bike.
@@SamsBikes honestly I'm sure at 1st it will be just short rides on my own just to get back into it and rebuild my fitness. Then yes definitely with a group of guys. And hopefully when my fitness is back the longer the ride the better
So yes to recap Ebike to rebuild my muscle and get fit Short and steady rides to rebuild Group rides when ready with fitter riders Cross country, mountain rides, Trails and DH rides Hopefully 1 year later fitness back and bike being thrown around like a pro
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What about Canyon Spectral:ON? Now in sale starting at under 3100 € and with 430 mm chainstays... Yeah, it basically is the same as last year's bike and not very high specs, but man that is some value for not a lot of money!
Yt takes some beating especially 2019 close out. It's also enduro rather than this boring trail geo. The radon is great value for someone wanting good spec and brand new motor tech.
Hey Matt not sure what happened to your message about the loam wolf but in September he released his first review on the decoy and all the facts were wrong and he didn’t explain at all how I felt the bike was and is! I think he rode the bike long enough to get some b roll and make the video. I sent him a message just giving him a head up that a lot of the info was wrong he pulled the video 24 hours later after get a shit storm of comments. He’s a big TH-cam but I think you can’t review a bike in one ride.
@@SamsBikes i have given him some stick myself for a cop out claim about some mystical tune which fixes the bike for 2020. I'd rather he just say that for some reason we really liked this years ride and it's possible last year we just didnt get it dialed in right. I'd at least have some respect for the honesty. Glad you also pulled him up on his review lol.
Received the shipping confirmation for my Radon Render 8.0 today. It's gonna be my 1st E trailbike so I am pretty excited. Thanks for your helping while I chose the rigt bike 4 me, Sam!
Sweeet send us a photo in Instagram once you get it!! I’m sure you will love it!
I bought the Propain Ekano 165mm. Lead time was about a month. Customer service was quite simply brilliant. One of the best I have dealt with.
I agree the customisation could be abit better, but the fact you can is much better than other brands. I just specced the cheapest option on brakes and bought some Hopes and sold the oem brakes as new when they arrived.
For the spec, Fox suspension etc nothing else came close in price. It rides awesome.
Hey Ben where you based?! That’s great to know very tempted to sell the decoy and grab the ekano I love that bike
@@SamsBikes UK Isle of Wight mate. I haven't read many other ebikes but I know my DH bikes and this is good.
My YT Decoy 29 pro should be here next week. Can not wait. Good vids dude.
Sweeet love to know how you get on let me know!!
Going to buy an E mountain bike early next year so watching your bike reviews with great interest
David check out the new buyers guides for 2021 lots have changed in 9 months
Great video, love the unbiased reviews. Hope all is well Down Under.
Thanks mate
Got the Cube 160 for my first ebike. Best purchase of my life :) Compared to acoustic bikes it's 50% of work and 150% of fun - bombing trails almost every day.
I know... ride more enjoy more ebikes are the now not the future..
Great video! I will say my Cube stereo 160 is far better looking than I expected
I beat it is in person great bike!
Definitely informative, good info. I think my choice and ride style would push me towards the Commencal in this video. Thanks for the review!
Thanks Sam for the video.I learnt a lot about different e bikes.Great information and well presented.I look forward to next video.
Thank you for the videos. Recently purchased the YT Decoy Comp--should be here middle of March. Really looking forward to it!
Rider your going to love it!
Hows the decoy bud?
@@Extremegaz25 I love it! The suspension is plush, it rolls over chunky rock like it's nothing. The only issue I have is cornering--doesn't seem to corner as tight as my downhill bike. But, putting a new DHR 2 on the rear with cushcore tomorrow and switching the front to the Assegai. Hoping that will help with cornering a bit. Other than that, it a great bike that I would recommend to anyone.
I’ve recently had a go on a couple of E bikes, and after a loooooooong period off not riding off-road, I’m hooked. Love the look and price of the YT decoy and luckily can get it on a cycle to work scheme so pay monthly via my wages and get a big discount.
Thanks for another informative video. I’ve still not dipped a toe into the emtb market but some really tempting ones out there. I do wonder what we will see coming out in the next couple of months...
Not sure there will be much until September. Very good options right now!
Awesome channel thanks!
Well put together videos,been looking at a trek rail at LBS,I've had a yt for couple of years their customer service is great..sooo many ebikes to choose from now haha.
And then there is wheel size too!!
thanks for watching riders... yep so many bikes in 2020 it really is the future.
The Stilus from Decathlon has a Lombardo frame (like Lombardo Sempione ebike); this frame is well known and appreciate. Thank you for the video
Thanks I had no idea sorry about that
Nice work Sam !! Missed a few Canadian bikes, particularly the rockey mtn power play and, the Norco sight and range are E-mtb industry leading in many ways. check-em out for next year !!! cheers !
Right on! check out my trail bike one... I've picked them up good buys this year if you can find one totally sold out
New to the channel but not to e bikes. Like it so far!
thanks rider
Thanks for a very informative video!😁👍
Really enjoyed it, especially as I'm in the market for an ebike 😎
Cheers Tony
Thanks for watching tony! Which one you thinking?!
Great over view.
Much appreciated.
Thanks Ken
Forwarded this to a friend looking for his first e bike as it’s a good level headed assessment apart for your apparent love of the Shimano dated motors. I think the new Bosch gen 4 motor and battery size sets new standards in this ever exciting technologically expanding industry. Great to see prices are beginning to get reasonable and the emergence of great new brands.
Yep that’s true haha I do love the shimano motor but your right the Bosch is great too and yes prices are starting to get a lot better!
Haha glad your loving the eddy they take a little getting used to buy the old tires for ebikes for me
Looking at the Scott Genius eRide 920. My local dealer got one in and I helped unbox it and OMG is that thing gorgeous!!! On their website it looks all green but it's not. It's grey base with green pearl over the top is awesome as it looks almost like color change at different angles.
4.500€ CUBE STEREO HYBRID 140 HPC SL 625 29 is the best value e-mtb out there, hands down!
Shimano group-set: 12 speed transmission, 10-51, SLX, XT, brakes, axles.
Fox suspensions 140mm frt & rear
Bosch Kiox (Bluetooth!), 2020 Gen 4 motor, 625 Wh powertube integrated batt
Composite fwd frame
Dropper seat
29” - 2,6” Schwalbe tires!
Yep can I ask why you when the 140 not the 160?!
Sam’s Bikes because it costs 6.000€ to get the 160 Actionteam that has the same equipment as the 140 SL which costs only 4.500€
And the 160 only offers 27,5” wheels whereas the 140 comes with the 29” wheels which I find to be an enormous improvement.
What’s your opinion?
Great video thanks for your information. Keep up the good work and thanks again 👍🏼
Thanks, will do!
Interesting video and well explained, not really sure if they should be regarded as budget bikes tho. More upper mid range really in my opinion. Good bang for your buck perhaps.
Do not get me wrong I do not mean budget bikes should be 500 Euro Amazon specials (as they will be crap) I will/do/have spent 3000-5000 on various EMTB's and standard MTB's, but if you are new to EMTB and want entry level into the sport you can get something for 1500 - 2500 which may not come with Fox 36's but will make a great upgradable platform as your interest increases.
Thanks for the comment, I kinda wanted to fine the best bikes for Emtb more aggressive style these were my picks maybe you can get some for less but not sure they would last long.
Love all the post you put up on here but please can you please use Australian dollars
Kerry thanks for the kind words I’m very sorry but Australia only accounts for 8% of my views also it looks really ugly having so many different prices, also Aussie prices change more often. Sorry mate not much I can do!
Sam’s Bikes hi buddy I don’t want you to stop your euro prices but if you could give Australian prices as well for the 8% of us 👍
@@kerryyaxley6018 ill try mate... but they change so much because the market is small and all bike prices are set off the euro and the USD.. but ill try just for you haha
Scott is usually very high priced, but the genius 930 Eride is really good value in my opinion.
I’ll check it out thanks for the info
Excellent review mate in the price range the majority can afford thanks
Thanks rider
I'd look at the Commencal Meta Power 29 as my pick.
Also aluminium frames are good with integrated batteries as they help dissipate the heat the batteries put out when in use.
There are designs with the Carbon frames to help but they can end up being fowled or have issues with moisture entering in the vents. Be interesting to know of long term all weather riding and the effects of moisture on the carbon vented frames.
How does the Kona 435mm chain stays go when tackling tech climbs? Is the seat enough forward to keep the front end from lofting under power?
Thanks for watching totally agree with all you said, I’m pretty sure the Kona will climb well enough, at the end of the day you need to know what you want a climber a downhiller or a bit of both! The meta 29er is a nice nice bike as well
Great review, the pros and cons and knowledge gave me the big picture
Hey Ken thanks for the feedback if you have any questions hit me up!
Great vid Sam.
Thanks mate
7:54 luckily everyones taste is different ;) for me it is the best looking bike out of all in 2020, especially the 140 HPC TM version. The frame design looks so clean and aggressive compared to other bikes. Just to give an example: for me the radon bikes and specialized kenevo and levo frame designs looks just like a mess ... again, its just personal taste ;)
Totally mate!! Everyone is different that what makes the world turn. I’m not a person that wouldn’t buy a bike for its looks but when there are so many good ones coming out in 2020 it does count!!!! Keep riding
Great video! Lot’s of good information.
Thanks Bea!
Amazing review. THanks!
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Vitus E Sommet has to be an online choice too and for bike shop maybe a Lapierre (however I snapped mine) as a lot of shops supply them.
Hi Craig. I also have a Lappiere Overvolt Shimano where the frame cracked at the shock. Which model did you have?
@@kayholstein6756 2019 Overvolt AM 927i
well done video, hope to see more in the future!
thanks mate
As I've seen you test both bikes, can you give me your opinion on the Commensal Mata Power compared to the Canyon Torque.On 9? If you had to choose between the 2, which would it be? I've had my eye on the Canyon for a while now but have heard great things about the Commensal... HELP!!!
Yes, absolutely I can help... you want to DH go the SX you want to trail enduro go the Sprectral is that easy.. both great bikes.,
@@SamsBikes Torque.On, not Spectral. :)
Oh sorry ok well this is even easier want you ride more then 2 hours get the commencal want to ride more than 3 hours get the canyon with 2 batteries
Great video. Thanks m8
Great work, thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful!
I love your wall full of wine case planks! You should also do a wine review...
Haha it’s actually my dads he’s a massive wine nut! Was thinking of explaining Spanish wine because once you get it, a amazing and dangerous haha
Great Vid Cheers Whats the best cheapest urban/ Commuter ebike
Mate you seen my last video?! Go check it out! I love the commencal Max Max power
Thanks for the effort bloke!
My pleasure!
What about the Scott strike 940 ebike ? Great video btw.
thanks bro these are just the bikes I would buy...
Sam, been watching all of your Decoy content and noticed the sound quality on this video was spot on. Could you let me know what microphone you have sitting on your table?
Thanks!
Hey Ryan check out this video! This is the mic I use the cheap one! Buy it through his link he’s a nice guys and will earn some commission.
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Great job on the video! Glad you mentioned shorter riders... I'm looking to trade up from my 2000 Gary Fisher to an eMTB her e in US. I'm a short rider at 5'1" (71cm inseam). Looking at Mainly all around trail riding In the 3500 EU range, which of the bikes you covered could work for me? Keep up the awesome job!
Hey mate maybe if you can up your budget a little I would looks at a lighter 27 or mullet. Maybe the canyon looks good at 21kg. There is also an option of changing the bike to 27 front and back buy changing the airspring in the forks with is a very simple and cheap upgrade
Sam’s Bikes thanks Sam. I like the idea of the mullet. Unfortunately I'm not seeing an XS for the Canyon.
Scott Weisman where you buying ?’
Canyon US site only shows the Spectral ON and the smallest they show is S
Try the trek or Santa Cruz. They both carry XS and their XS should fit you ok. Hope you can find one.
Great video with the timing that I get AFIB sometimes riding and when I get it I cant ride uphill. The last time I got it one rider in the group let me ride his Spec Levo (with upgraded and increased travel). Now I'm converted and looking.
My current bike is a YT Jeffsy 27.5 2018. I notice there are more 29 or mullet bikes with not many 27.5 apart from 2019 Merida or Kona remote which has just been reduced in price. The Trek rail 7 looks ok and are getting cheaper when on sale , do you think I could stick a 27.5 rear wheel on?
Cheers from Auckland NZ
Hey Grant, thanks for the comment... to be honest the Merida is a banging bike.. have you seen my review of the 10K? well its not really a review I talk to my mate that has one and he loves it... I have actually changed my decoy to 27 front and back I like it more but each to there own.. Im sure you could change the Rail to a mullet but might be best just to go for a Merida seeing the prices are so good in oz and nz... good luck let us know how you go.
Sam
Olimpia EX 900 Sport: 900watt battery made with 21700 cells.
Very informative! Which eMTB motor would you say would be your 1st choice?
Very hard call but after testing the kenevo ( video was just released ) I would say the brose
Just as I had suspected. Too bad it isn’t available on any other mainstream eMTB besides Specialized.
@@BikingBadwithTC it is actually... Fantasic, Nox bikes, and a few more..
@@SamsBikes But as far as I know Specialized modified the Broses Software. Don't know if that improves much
Hi ! Nice video dude !! What do you thinks about the Rocky mountain altitude or intinct bc both in powerplay ? The first range is about 5K€
Funny you ask them in testing one next week! I’ll let you know.
Sam , ridden the new trek rail 9.8? Super keen on one
Not yet but might get on one this week!
Same , dealer in dunsbourgh has rail and levo to demo💗💗
Looking to buy my first emtb, I need help up the hills!. Fell in love with the Radon through watching this video = but they don't ship to OZ! Do you know of any workarounds?
Hey mate sorry there isn’t. Just buy a local one in oz! The trek rails looks pretty similar in geo maybe that’s a good one to look at for you
Nice information, I'm kinda looking at two short lists that fit my pocket. I'm kinda undecided though! , could any one help? , my choice are between the lapierre Overvolt am 6.5 and the decathlon stylus!? I've set a budget of £3500, Q, are there any better out there for money, cheers
What do you think about new canyon neuron:on? thanks for this video
Not bad bike at all for the money it’s great!
Sam do you think YT will add a new EP 8 motor soon .
The reason I am buying a YT is from your show.love it bro
thanks for kinda words, I think we are going to see a 700 watt battery and new motor in the first 2 months of 2021..
If we are talking about value, then are they any other than RADON or CANYON?
Commencal ?
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Very interesting video as always with simple and understandable words. I owe a 2019 kenevo and I am very happy riding it but, as always, searching the market for new things. I know is not easy to talk about all the range of ebikes are nowadays in the market but, please, could you do next a video talking about Orbea Wild fs? I think it has a good chance in the aluminium frame...
Sorry for my english...I try my best
Keep doing good videos, you do a great job.
Saludos desde Euskal Herria!! / Pais Vasco!!
Your English is great much better than my Spanish! You know my first list had the wild af but I took it out as I had to many bikes and it didn’t make the cut I’ll try and ride one soon it does look like a great option. Thanks for watching rider
Great selection of bikes but I don’t think you can beat the vitus sommet vrx £4200 and spec doesn’t get much better the motor for me is the best out there and you can de restrict to 20 mph with the app you can’t do that with the Bosch or the brose hope this helps someone 👍
Why not the Canyon spectral ? Isn’t that right around that price point?
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I'm pretty sure I wasn't out when I dropped the Video but Defo its a Rad trail bike
Hi Sam, did you try out the R RAYMON Trailray E-Seven 11.0 yet? Looks like an amazing bike for the budget
Must be an Australian thing to make a list of UNDER 5k bikes and they nearly all cost over 5k. Because it's all upside down over there, right ?
hahaha yep well sorry its a little click bait and deaf an Aussie thing..
Hello I have a question......, YT-Decoy Comp or Cube Stereo 160 HBC? They have the same price and i search a playful bike.
Thanks for watching mate! They are pretty similar bikes I like the look of the decoy more but I’m sure on the trail they would both handle well. Can you test a cube?!
@@SamsBikes Yes, next week can i test a cube stereo. I'll tell you how it goes
If it feels good and your happy with the shop then maybe it’s the go! Decoy is a great bike as well but if something goes wrong could be a pain in the ass even more so this year.
This video helped me tremendously
Thanks Jack good luck with the search
@@SamsBikes I was also looking at the specialized, knevo comp 2023 did you ever get on one? And if you did how did you like it compared to you YT?
Yea tested the kenevo check my channel out I review it, I like the kenevo better for dh but the reign over the kenevo for dh but as over all I like the decoy for a more all purpose bike
The cube is the one can’t beat the whole package and price. The model under this one with 140mm travel and Fox 34 goes for 4500. An amazing deal. Specialized is too expensive for what you get.
I’m thinking of getting the giant trance e +2 pro but cannot find too much about it, are there any bike that stand out as the best for around that £4K mark?
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i picked up a Bulls Evo Estream AM 4 for $4500 (US)...a ton of bike for the price. admittedly, a bit too planted (not pop n' play), but my wallet loves it. and sexy af with a Brose-S motor (650 wh battery)
I’ll need to check it out! Thanks for the head up so hard to keep up with all the bikes!
Hi Sam, can you explain why did you say that Kona has bad tires choice, what's wrong with Maxxis Minion DHF, and DHR??? What tires would you recommended?
Not DD tires and plus tires! I would put 2,5 dd or dh casing tires on that bike in a second.
You had me at Commencal
haha yes met too... love this bike
I don't think the average rider is going to make a bad purchase with any of these choices. All of them seem to be capable machines. The YT battery being proprietary does hurt a bit.
Yep totally agree I would ride any of them! Hard choice these days
The only question I have now is...Are there any more bikes in stock??!! I can't wait for 3 months!
Mate not sure you will need to ring around local bike shops covid has made ebikes sell 300% up! Good luck
Do you not have Haibike where you are? They have crazy deals and sales on them from bike shops, not the listed Website price from Haibike though. Got my 2019 all mountain 2.0 for $2500 USD.
To be honest Haibike rock I just totally forgot about them
Love my Haibike. Got my 2018 10.0 Sduro for $3200.00 US last year. Grab it when they got'em. Cheers!
Bob A woah, that’s a steal!
@@TheDennisRobb Thanks. The bike is wicked with top notch components. I like the 2.0 too, almost bought it. I think you have the Side Switch interface. Go to Crazy Lenny's/Madison.WI and check the deals. They ship via UPS. Cheers!
Tell me more about the YT Decoy
I have loads of videos mate
Sam, you've got a new subscriber.
What do you think about the SCOTT STRIKE? Is it any good?
Hey rider thanks for the sub! Not so sure on the strike but Scott makes rad bikes so I’m sure it’s good!
I have the new scott strike e ride 910 I find it super!
New subscriber here.
Planning to get an Ebike soon, love the cube stereo 160 sl. Recommended?
I'm 194cm and 130kg :)
Hey David my next video in the buyers guide is going to help people make that decision, but tell me how much experience do you have, what do you like doing enduro or more all day rides?
Your weight will pretty much limit you to Giant. Most brands have a total rider/bike weight limit of 120kg, Specialized 130kg, Norco 136kg, Merida goes to 140kg, Giant is 156kg.
That’s some great information there thanks mate
@@cavman7 That's something I've not heard in videos on E bikes. Thanks dude!
Currently almost all E-Mtn Bikes are manufactured to international standards ISO 4210 and EN 15194. This standard needs to be exceeded for EMTB. Have a read here. ebike-mtb.com/en/too-heavy-for-e-bike/
What do you think of Bulls e-stream line?
Don’t know much about Bulls sorry
No worries. Keep up the great work on the channel! 🤙
I got the 900E for 4650,-, so i couldn`t say no ;-) So happy! But every day raining here this week :(
Thought you said sub 5K and then listed a super 5K, anyway, we all have our favourites, usually the one we bought, so..
The Haibike full seven 1.0 at £2250 is a bargain, you can upgrade as you want, but you start with a very rideable bike.
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.
Good choice! that seems like a bargain
Are you in Tassie? Thanks for the video
I wish no I was in Adelaide which is still good! Now back in Spain :(
Nice info there Sam ...
I was really interested in the Propain, but they only ship to Europe. Anybody know why? they certainly don't have a problem shipping their German cars to the Americas and Asia. They're also out of the most popular Large size completely. So, 2 strikes. Pretty limited company. As for the YT, they won't ship until the very end of July. That leaves 1.5 months of riding if you're in a cold climate.
Yes Propain just have not worked out it all out yet! I think it’s actually keeping up with demand. They Have only just opened up to USA. Where you living?’ Oz and nz are having amazing deals on Merida which is a creaking bike
@@SamsBikes Thanks for replying. I'm in Canada. I contacted Propain yesterday and they were quick to reply. They said they're working on making their bikes available in Canada but could take some time (I'm assuming not until next year? who knows). They also said they can't tell when the large frames will be available again. I'll keep an eye out on them.
Good video but surprised Vitus didn't get a mention.
yea just not a fan of that bike..
@@SamsBikes out of interest what is it you don't like?
Does the yt decoy 2020 vs 2019 diferent's in geometry?Always great vídeos .congratulations
Thanks rider, yep the decoy has the same suspension and geometry as the 2019. The new 29er is different but that’s more a trails bike!
No it doesn't, it has the same components but I'm pretty sure the 2020 Decoy suspension has significantly better tuning for an ebike and is a big improvement.
@@craigjensen321 I think you have been watching the Loam Wolf? to be honest the bike comes with the same suspension and when they say it comes with a better tuning this is just setting the the suspension up. So its the Same bike some suspension but YT and pt better settings on the shocks from factory but this is something you would do the first day riding it. Thanks for watching
@@SamsBikes Hey Sam, I don't remember where I read it but I was doing plenty of research before I ordered my Decoy. I have gone for the 29r Pro as it is more suited to my riding. I was looking at the discounted 2019 Pro Race but it sold out. I had a Lapierre Overvolt 927i which was nice to ride but the frame snapped after 6months. Great channel buddy love the content 👍
@@craigjensen321 Ah. Finally I saw your Lapierre Type. I had a Lapierre Overvolt 627i which snapped as well. Currently I'm trying to get a refund for it. Hopefully I get that cleared. If yes I'll try to get a Commencal Meta Power from 2021... let's see. Anyway, Lapierre never again.
Did you get a refund for your Lapierre easily?
What about the rocky mountain powerplay altitude and instinct.
675 wh batteries and 108nm from the motor?
What’s it cost! To be honest we don’t see much of them in Europe!
@@SamsBikes you can get the Instinct BC Edition Alloy 50 for $5499 USD and the Altitude Alloy 50 for $5549 USD. Both are Shimano SLX builds with MT520 4 pot brakes f/r.
weird no mention of vitus e-sommet
Whats about haibikes?
great bikes check my next video!
Ordered Canyon Spectral:On Al 6.0 on Apr 6 and still waiting for it :) It is shipped, DHL is a bit slow. Expecting this week hopefully.
Sweet send us a photo when you get it! I love the new spectral thinking of getting my wife one .
So? How did it go? 🤔😊
Sune Groennebaek it took 1 week for payment (There was a small problem on my side) then 1 week to ship and 1 week to arrive :) the bike is awesome btw!
Tolga Akyay sweet glad mate it’s a lot of fun!
As for the Stilus, it is not made BY, it is made FOR Decathlon by Italian bike company.
I've done some research because I was thinking about purchasing one.
Decathlon had to throw something into the market while they are working on their own, new, modern, up-to-date spec EMTB.
I’m trying to adjust my perception that 4-5k is normal for an ebike when I really wanted to spend 2.5k
Yea it kinda is if you want a enduro/ trail Emtb. Sorry but it’s worth it
Does this one bang or does it bomb?
www.haibike.com/gb/en/ebikes/emountainbikes/trail/sduro-fullseven-10-gb977?id=4540090040
You can get a 2019 Haibike All Mtn 2.0 for $2.5k if you're in the US.
@@lastdimestudios i bought one last month for £1850 its great for the money
@@richardpreece4974 where from Richard? Seem to be £3k online
Anybody has experience with the propain bikes?
I’ll be testing it in October!
Merida made an XL 900E with 480 Reach and 663 Stack! I am 5ft.- 11" tall and think the L fit`s perfect for me!
Really ?! Wow I’m getting one thanks for telling me
@@SamsBikes www.sportsprofi.com/Sportarten/Fahrrad/Fahrraeder/Elektrofahrraeder/Elektrobike-27-5-Merida-eOne-Sixty-900E-2019-41cm-gruen.html?ref=go& I have another dealer wich have one like mine(size L) in black for 4650,-(last week), but they dont have an online-shop. If size L is an option for you, i could ask if they would ship the bike to spain!
That’s very interesting I was told it only came in a large
I have a XL black. Love it
Hi sam
Please could you do a review on a giant trance e3 or e2 pro. I'm a big guy over 100kg so want something that will handle my weight. Reason I'm looking at these is cost, e3 in uk £3599 and e2 just under 4k. Giant dealer close to me too and they offer a 0% finance deal. Availability is limited too on most other bikes due to record ebike sales in uk and giant seem to offer the best finance deals. Reason for asking you is quite simple, you give honest and unbiased reviews and the bikes get tested properly for all uses, DH, trail and cross country. Please help me out thanks
Hey Lloyd great idea, I won't be able to test it but I have ridden the big brother the Reign and its a great bike. Can you tell me a little bit more about you? How long have you been riding for? how's your fitness, on a normal ride how far would you like to ride? do you ride in a group or on your own and if you ride in a group what is the fitness like of your group... loads of questions I know but it will help me give you some advice. Sam
@@SamsBikes hi sam. My fitness is shocking, I was quite fit around 18 months ago and was road cycling and doing the odd triathlon, but I had cancer and the tumour was so big in my leg it snapped my femur in 2. On the up side I have had the all clear and a new hip now. I want back into mountain biking like i did when i was a kid. Mainly for riding around mountains and exploring.
Problem is I guarantee that soon as I start riding and my fitness gets better I know I'll be hitting the DH and tech trails so I want to buy something that will be capable and able to do all. And mostly riding on my own through weeks and groups on weekends
@@lloydwiggins9370 ok I'm getting the picture now and glad you got the all ok, Ebike is the perfect way to get fit again. One more thing when you ride how long do you want to ride for? and do you want to ride with fitter people in a group? I'm a little worried about the battery size.. I'm defo going to do a video for you I just want all the information so I can get you the best bike.
@@SamsBikes honestly I'm sure at 1st it will be just short rides on my own just to get back into it and rebuild my fitness. Then yes definitely with a group of guys. And hopefully when my fitness is back the longer the ride the better
So yes to recap
Ebike to rebuild my muscle and get fit
Short and steady rides to rebuild
Group rides when ready with fitter riders
Cross country, mountain rides,
Trails and DH rides
Hopefully 1 year later fitness back and bike being thrown around like a pro
Ty for video
Stilus all the way.
Quality/price
Decatlhon on top
yep but can you find one?
@@SamsBikes no 😭
Cube, Haibike so hard to find in Australia!
really? give Will from will rides a call he can get them I'm pretty sure.
@@SamsBikes I did call but no Flyon, I might have to import one.
Really surprised you didn't mentioned the Spectral On
I would be now I don’t think it was released when I made the video or just totally missed it
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Kona is a beast... have try it already, is a monster down hill... nothing to point to...
If money wasn’t a problem I would build up the Kona it’s the best geo on the market
@@SamsBikes i am trying to sell my R.M. altitude to get one from a bike shop secund hand service bike
What about Canyon Spectral:ON? Now in sale starting at under 3100 € and with 430 mm chainstays... Yeah, it basically is the same as last year's bike and not very high specs, but man that is some value for not a lot of money!
Hey thanks for the input I missed that one I’ll check it out thanks
Canyon is great and at that price, grab it quick. Will be comin to N/A very soon. Excited about that for sure!!
Yt takes some beating especially 2019 close out. It's also enduro rather than this boring trail geo. The radon is great value for someone wanting good spec and brand new motor tech.
Yep totally if you can get decoy base 2019 !? Go for it only needs charger upgrade and x2 shop and it’s a bomb of an ebike
Hey Matt not sure what happened to your message about the loam wolf but in September he released his first review on the decoy and all the facts were wrong and he didn’t explain at all how I felt the bike was and is! I think he rode the bike long enough to get some b roll and make the video. I sent him a message just giving him a head up that a lot of the info was wrong he pulled the video 24 hours later after get a shit storm of comments. He’s a big TH-cam but I think you can’t review a bike in one ride.
@@SamsBikes i have given him some stick myself for a cop out claim about some mystical tune which fixes the bike for 2020. I'd rather he just say that for some reason we really liked this years ride and it's possible last year we just didnt get it dialed in right. I'd at least have some respect for the honesty. Glad you also pulled him up on his review lol.
No Trek?
not in this Video... but you wait until Sunday night dropping a custom Trek build
@@SamsBikes OK!
What do you guys think about the new Ghost ASX 6.7+?
dont know it but Ghost normally mate great bikes.