Salt & Tar: Episode 59- Deck Planking
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money or time, when planning and implementing a task. Cheap metalergy will drive you to drinking or worse, heavily. Patience and persistance. I am smiling at your ability to adapt and overcome.
I grew up and spent my life as far from the ocean as you can get. I wanted to learn about boats and sailing. When I saw these videos pop up, I thought, ya, watching someone build a boat would be part of the education. Started at episode one and watched them all to see each step. Cool couple, well done videos. I was a bit surprised when, instead of seeing how your boat turned out, I found I had caught up to real time. To dream and make it happen is very cool. Keep well. I will keep following.
Thank you! It's been 4.5 years to this point. Videos are about a month behind real time so we're pretty close :) welcome!
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Battery powered equipment has a torque rating, so does the screw-the machine will win. Exceed one, break the other. Time for an old school screwdriver! Keep at it, haven't heard the words, we have a problem many times in 59 videos! Fair winds.
Garret is one lucky guy. I don't know if I have ever come across such a sweet disposition in a girl. And such a hard worker! You guys both rock and I love your video's.
Great job! One trick we did years ago on a thin teak deck over fiberglass was to butt the deck strip together , you can even screw the planks down with a screw an washer in the joint. Later we made a router jig to cut the grooves guiding off a temporary guide. Might be an idea to think about for the cabin top . The screws may be breaking because they are into fiberglass, it grips hard! Cheers Warren
If screws stick to the epoxy glue and have difficulty removing the, you can try to apply some heat to the screw with a very large soldering iron... The heat will melt the epoxy resin which holds the screw in the plywood deck allowing screw to be removed more easily.
A little bit of screw theory for you guys: Cheap screws tend to be very rough in the finish making them very suitable for holding but very difficult to remove especially when a strong glue is thrown into the mix.
He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a carpenter. He who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an artist!
Sand those beautiful deck boards and put teak oil on them!!!!
That will make your boat stand out!
Oiled teak is not slippery
I put a soldering iron to the head of the screw to loosen up the epoxy. It does work.
Another great video guy's. Too late now but we had a similar problem with screws. Our top tip, get some brass modeling tube in small gauge, cut in to 4 inch lengths various sizes. Sharpen the inner edge like a leather punch with a needle file, then cut serrations or teeth in the end with a dremel or junior hacksaw. Use the size that slips over the screw thread to do the same as the tile hole cutter you used. They don't last forever before they need sharpening but they cut a clean hole round the screw and the narrow wall thickness keeps the hole small. We then used mole grips with the jaws ground down to grip the screw threads. Deck looks fantastic can't wait to see the finished article. Sail Safe. Ant, Cid and the pooch crew. xx
Morning guys, just saw your latest deck video and the screw problem. My two penny’s worth..... while the epoxy is curing but not yet rock hard just go and back off the screws a 1/8 of a turn. It’s worked for me for many years. Have nice day 👍
Soldering iron! The epoxy has glued your screws in. Just heat up the screw with a soldering iron and it will release the epoxy and help them out.
Yup - heat the screw and the epoxy lets go. But that's only before they're broken!!
Want to share a little tip with you regarding applying epoxy. After the epoxy is mixed scrape it all into a large ziplock back and cut one of the corners of the bag off, probably want about a 1/2" hole. Seal the bag and squeeze the epoxy where its needed. There are bags for this purpose you can purchase if you want.
My son and I have watched you guys since the beginning. He's 9 now and has dreams of building a boat. I appreciate your tenacity and vigilant efforts on what you are doing. Simply, thank you. We appreciate and enjoy watching your amazing life. He did ask me a question that I'd like to ask you. Why not get a logo and sell some t shirts and possibly some hats? Minimal cost and it would help finance the rest of the build and your future adventures.
Thanks guys for watching 💕 and yes we do have shirts the link is in the description ;)
~Ruthie
Alot of hard work, alot of beer, alot of junkfood and a little cuddle from time to time. Seems like heaven for me. LYG
A lot. Two words. Continue reading.
Ребята вы такие классные!!!!
Deck looks amazing 👍
You guys remind me of me and my wife. We are a GREAT team just like you. Keep up the super work and don't lose your dream. Fair winds!
That deck is already STUNNING!!! Imagine after its sanded and sealed... BEAUTY MATE!!!!
The shadow on the rear deck was great 👌 a shadow on the deck means there's a deck 👍😁 good on ya. It's going to look stunning.
Dear Ruth and Garret, again I enjoyed looking mostfully!! Can't wait till the next edition! Don't listen to all these people who ar having comments on your screwproblem......after it happened it is easy to say how you should have done it...let them build a boat!!!!.... And the way Garret trows that one single screw overboard, it was great to see, especially because the face he had :) .
Just let everybody talk........
Love it!! Regards, Arthur from Holland
Exactly! Well said. Keep up the great work, you two!! :)
Looking great!
The deck is really looking sharp. It's going to be really nice looking when your done.
No Monday quarterback here, there's so many things to add, but what's the point, you solved your problems that's what its all about! The deck is looking sweet, and so is the bow spritIts easy for us sitting here watching as we stuff our faces and sit on the couch , your out there in the trenches day after day for what must be year three, so all i can say to you both, is you are doing amazing job! Ive been with you since episode one, and you are turning out a beautiful boat. Thank you both, for the countless hours that go into filming and editing this project!I do have one question, what did you use to get that amazing shot of the moon?
So as I said before this gal Ruth just oozes sweetness..she reminds me of my wife that makes me and Garrett a couple of lucky guys👍
A great work ethic, combined with a forgiving attitude is what makes your relationship work. When problems arise, as they inevitably do in tasks like these, rather blaming each other, you come together and focus on finding a solution. Nice to see and thanks for sharing.l
What a deck...what teamwork! You have inspired me to finish my project this Fall. Thanks SO much.
I usually heat screws. With a soldering iron. When removing them from epoxy. Also unscrew by hand more control
put an ice cube on the screw head before extracting the screw. The wood and screws sitting in the sun are expanding due to expansion coefficients Ice will cause them to shrink and they will come out easier because they will not be so tight.
there is info on youtube about extracting broken off screws and special core type bits , I made one from a peice of 1/4" metal pipe then I used a small drill chuck, hand held, to grab them, it's amazing how small a hole you can reach in to and grab the screw
I lived aboard a 28-foot Atkins wood powerboat for 5 years in my early thirties. I had to laugh at the beer and junk food thing, as memories came back of when I would haul out for bottom work in San Pedro.
There was never time to go out for dinner, lunch, or whatever, I would grab whatever fast food was available on my way to get supplies. I drank beer in the afternoon so I could squeeze an extra two, maybe three hours of work out of my overtired body, before a sponge bath and passing out after another day of work.
That was 35 years ago, before buying remote acreage and building a ranch, and raising a family.
God bless you both, and keep you safe, and thank you for helping this old man relive some really great memories.
Only those who have lived the life can know the meaning of, "a boat is a hole in the water, into which you pour money".
But the memories of cruising, loving, fishing, having epic parties while rafting and Diving the Channel Islands, punctuated by moments of sheer Terror, were Worth every penny. I will keep watching.
Some torx head deck screws, dip them in oil, wax or anti-sieze.
You won't be doing overly large areas at once so re- using the screws means you would not need that many.
Also your impact driver should have a variable speed trigger, start gently, even tightening just slightly before removing.
Probably too late but a suggestion.
Don't use the screw gun to remove the screws - this is why they are breaking - use a screwdriver and slowly remove them - it is the torque of the screw gun that was/is breaking the screw heads off...
What he said - Exactly - slow and steady wins
Yep the sudden twist is what's breaking them off. Off-Grid is right.
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I use a 1/4 inch ratchet with a 1/4 inch socket then place the screwdriver bit in the socket (with some tape to hold it in place)
@@c50ge for sure - just use anything that does not produce torque - all that does is shock the screw and it will break -- those are no cheap screws you just need to know their limits...
You can also heat up the screw with a soldering iron as well to expand the screw and break it free from the epoxy before pulling it out.
Try going old school on removing a screw. Borrow a Hand Brace, Brace & bit. You will be able to apply torque with greater control then with a screw gun. Practice if you have not tried this method. Get a feel for when the screw will brake. This has been my goto tool for stubborn screws for 50 years. Good luck.
Put a screw driver in the head and heat up the screw driver shaft with a torch! The heat will soften the epoxy, twist the screw out. Use a sharpened collet pin to drill down the broken screw shafts, lift the plank, heat the screw remains and twist out with nippers. Been there, done that...
A shade cloth shade sail from the hardware store over the mast would provide some much needed shade
Whenever anything goes wrong, try to think of it as a future funny anecdote to share and laugh about. There are few interesting or entertaining stories where everything goes perfectly right :-)
A plug cutter is probably the tool you want to extract the broken screws if you must get them out, order a couple of them. good luck
I believe that it was he used in the end and then...could extract the yucky screws.
Garret you little turd! Lmao, gotta love you guys.
I remember when I was younger and building was easier.
I am building a laundry/ bathroom on my house now and weekends are all I want of that kind of chore.
Great boat but I think I am old enough that a production boat should last my lifetime.
"Frye!.........Frye!.........Frye!"
Girl pipes up... "I think he's like sick or something....".
What is that?
Ferris Bueller you’re my hero.
Awesome video, thanks!!
Really enjoy your channel, so nice to see a couple working so well together, but who wouldn't want to be working with this cute Lady with such a nice nature and lovely eyes?
and a good women gives a man drive to face the world so keep on keeping on
Heat the screws with a soldering iron. Next time nail the planks down through a small square of plywood. They can then be removed easily.
You can also use a old candle wax block on the threads before you put them in helps way better if you are thinking on removing them again, Just a wee tip! Nothing worse than them cheap heads messing your new screw tips up Grr!
That does work well except for the fact that they want to use epoxy in the hole afterwards and that would prevent the epoxy from bonding properly.
Works great on 3.5 inch and larger screws for not stripping on the way in as well
Spray hairspray on the screws to act as a release agent. Better screws help too.
I love what you two are achieving, and to do it together is amazing. Oh and don't worry there will always be lots to update or repair so you will be kept nice and busy after the build.
Keep at it and keep having fun.
Preparing them screws with some sorta fat or wax You dip the tip into before screwing through uncured epo would help with exserting later on, too.
Nice video...I live 60 miles east of your boat yard...the weather has been 10° + above average ...your area 5° - 10° above average ,
90° + days...you both deserve an A+ , for your enthusiasm .
Thanks for the wonderful vlogs, your pains are our pleasures... Glad you always get it figured out, you're a great team!
There's also an option for screwing in between the planks and using fender washers to hold them down. Saves on plugging. FWIW
True, but bung plugs add a certain beauty and charm that just strips wouldn't possess.
I had to remove a heap of screws (125mm x5mm bugles) from a timber ceiling one time. Most of them were breaking so I tried a few different things. I found the best method was to tighten them a tiny bit, then they would back out easy. Went from a 90% failure, to not breaking a single one after. And I’ve even used the screws since 😉
Use a plugdrill, the one you use to make wooden pluggs with. As small as possible. Center it around the screw an drill slow. The plugg with screw wil come out easy.
Is that not exactly what the finally did?
You need to get the screws hot to break them loose from the epoxy. Heat an old screw driver with a torch and then hold it on the screw until it is hot. Then use the drill driver bit to back it out.
They solved this the first day! Moving on...
Just started my Tri hull build a few months back but a few medical issues have slowed it down to a mind numbing crawl. To see where you two started and where your at now is an inspiration for me to press on when the time comes. You two do amazing work and it shows on Rediviva.
With wood screws always little bit lube when driving them in. Metal fatigue begin with the fastening and you almost guarantee to snap off when taking them out again,besides a damaged head from screwdriver slipping.BTW, it is slowly but surely all coming nicely together,well done.
Thanks to your videos I have discovered that I'm no longer afraid of hard work - in fact I could watch a beautiful Californian girl do it all day.
I'll second that. So far, she is quite attractive from every angle.
Oh, yeah... Ruth is very cute too.
Please don't take your wife for granted by giving her grunt work & then saying that's why you have her. She's one in a million.
@@carlprestipino2204 Thats your comment? How about some words of encouragment?
@@geraldhenrickson7472 "She's one in a million" is pretty positive.
She’s looking amazing!! The boat is looking great too! 😉
Good grief...
I'm a little 'slow' sometimes , but I think I get it now . . . . . you are like a kid that buys his (her) first plastic model ship and is putting it together ! It may be to motorize it and/or sail it later , but first to build it and then put it on display on a shelf . The building it first is most important for results to display . Sailing it later to improve the 'display' aspect may occur . . . . but , D A M N ! ! ! look at the B O A T we built ! ! !
I did that when I was a bit younger with a 'Red Devil' destroyer plastic model . It was big for a plastic model, and had an electric propulsion system. I found the plastic propellers to be inadequate (at a later date when we had built a damn on the local creek to have a place to sail our ships). So, I took a tin-can and cut better propellers to solder onto the propeller shafts for improved performance. (The improved performance was spectacular !) You two are improving the 'build' on your 'model ship' to suit your intended final result . I am enjoying your videos , and am amazed at the work and sweat and money you are giving this project. Yet, your vessel will be the only one like it in existence . . . . it will have unique value ! !
Rediviva is taking shape nicely. Not too much longer and you'll be leaving a wake behind. Fair winds and following seas.
This is one amazing project, thanks for sharing your journey.
An old method I’ve used is is filing a roll pin to work in reverse and it will bore down, engage the tread, and reverse the screw shank.
I’m sure your done with all of that by now.
"Little turd" ... haha. There's true love for you ♥️
Good job.
After you finished installing the deck consider a teak oil. Most decks end up withered and grey. Heavy oil keeps the beautiful bright yellow orange brown colors of natural wood! They are not slippery and it stops splintering.
I always say There's never a problem always solutions... keep the good work up you guys are awesome
Another great vid, Thanks to both. I found when I used to fit teak decks that the only time I broke screws was when I didn't drill a big enough pilot hole through the substrate. Really doesn't need to bite too much into or through glassfibre. But cheap screws, yeah; not worth it. The other thing we did was to screw blocks into the substrate and then wedge the deck planks down instead of screwing through them - leaves a cleaner finish and very few holes to plug - the holes in the substrate being covered by the next plank, etc. But yeah; decking can get old quickly and is messy. I really like the gnarly finish on the planks prior to your presumably sanding them smooth - always thought that a textured surface would give better grip at sea.
That's why you always use stanless scrows on a boat
Hurray for the music... and the lovely decks.
I love the ending! I thought it sounded like Garrett at first singing and playing but as I listened... Oh, it was Reid! Very beautiful and I love the scenes you did along with the music. Very nice touch. Also how when you took your gloves off and tossed at the camera, very clever!
Thanks sis💗
you guys and the boat are awesome. I truly look forward to your videos every week !
Lesson: Buy nice, not twice. Looking good Awesome progress!
Buy once, cry once (price), but cheaper than buying wrong and crying when you have to but the better screws after already buying the cheapos.
Those deck blanks look beautiful. Nice work.
Great job planking. Minor setbacks are the best time to learn
I look forward to seeing that beautiful boat sailing out of port.
Nice looking hard work keep at it. Love ya both. Hugs from Canada
The deck planks look fantastic already. I can't wait to see them finished.
Bit late now, but a good trick is to use one of those hollow pins that has a slit in the side as a drill.(don't know what their called but you find them holding pump handles together.) It will drill down around the sides of the screw and you can pull the whole thing out. Useing a release agent or wax on the screw helps too. Your boat is looking so good now.
Sorry I near you to be of help. I've been a carpenter since 1976 and saved a couple of boats in my time. I love the work and the reward is the finished product. You work/job looks great wishing you two the best. Robert
Incredibly awesome skills brother! And an equally incredible partner. Cant wait to see finished vessel. Mines a Balboa 26. Nothing along yalls level. Got it very cheap. Love what yall are doing! Shes so modest.....All the best friends!
Good fix, Gareth.
Ruthie you rock. May catch up when you're sailing....my girl used to munch kiss me like that, loved it. All the best.
a woodworker once informed me that the temp screw holes can be filled using a wood plug cutter makes a perfect button plug, as you already know !, dude how many plugs did you cut, est. 9200 !, perfect, you two did a beautiful job..thanks for the upload
dandy episode!
You can make a 'temporary' hole saw from a length of 3/8" or 1/2" stainless tubing with several angled slits cut in one end. Really cheap and can be re-cut several times. No kerf to speak of so it doesn't tend to walk...
Got a suggestion for removing screws from epoxy. Get yourself an old screwdriver that fits the head of the screw. Heat the screwdriver head with a torch. (experiment to find how much heat for the screw in question) Place the hot screwdriver on the screw and turn gently until the heat sokes into the screw enough to break it free then use your power drill to remove.
For broken screw extraction, get a chunk of steel brake tube that the screw body will just fit inside. (you can purchase short straight pieces from the auto parts store) Cut off a three-inch length or so and use a file to cut a few teeth around the opening of the tube on one end and use it in your drill as a small hole saw to remove the broken screw body. Mark the depth so ya don't go too far then pop the broken piece out. The hole left after screw body extraction will usually be about the same diameter or smaller than the screw head.
Ok so I did not finish watching the video before I posted this but in case someone else comes looking for tip and tricks when building their own boat this method has worked great for me.
I'm so sorry for this young couple. You guys work so hard! Nevertheless you caught it just in time. For anyone else, check the shear strength before you get screwed? This would also apply to every nut and bolt.
Beautiful, quality work as always! You guys never cease to amaze me.
Great channel
Well done both of you . . . amazing progress and impressive determination.
PAM (the cooking spray) makes a really good realize for the epoxy. Spray a little into a dish and dip the screws into it before installing them.
No problems, just solutions! Good show.
That decks going to look awesome. Love it !!
Absolutely wonderful. You are to a point where gratification will come slowly. But the results will be permanently visible. Stupid screws and all of geniuses that are now screw “experts”.
Ruth you are amazing..Boy are you a lucky man to have her with you ..She is a one off..
Oh sheeeaaat!!! now thats some freaking nice decking.
A guy at Home Depot told me to always buy out of the bins and never out of the packs. He said it’s two different companies. The stainless in the packages I’ve found to be somewhat magnetic. The bin ones are not.
Your getting there guys and doing a great job cheers from Down under.
The deck will be worth all the troubles. My approach to your screw application..... Drill hole, put a dollop of melted (liquid) paste wax in the hole, coat screw with same paste wax, screw the decking down..just enough) , then after epoxy cure, using the impact driver, drive IN just a smidge (to. break it loose) , then back out screw.
You guys are awesome, keep up the hard work. Garrett looks great in the straw hat!
The deck is looking amazing.