What Made the Small Block Chevy Great???
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- Unity Motorsports Garage dives into the small block Chevy and what made it great. We will cover the small block from its humble beginnings to being an all out Racing legend! In this video you will see greats such as Smokey Yunick, Grumpy Bill Jenkins, Reher-Morrison-Shepherd, Junior Johnson, Dale Earnhardt and David Vizard of @marvingvx1 come along and watch the small block Chevy through the years to reach its greatness!
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I’m a small block Chevrolet man and always will. Big blocks are great but I love my old small blocks.
There are few people I would sit through a Manscaping, hair restoration, and HPV vaccine commercial for, to then hear why a small block Chevy is great, but I knew Andy would deliver. Great content as always!
John, that was true determination on your part...LOL Thanks for the kind words my friend...
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage You cannot truly say that the small block was success in NASCAR. They changed and garnished so many rules around making Chevy faster than the Thunderbird, there was no way Chevy was NOT going to lose. Beginning in the middle to late 80's Ford's were required to run taller rear spoilers, steeper spoiler angles and taller ground clearances. Those things never got taken away until the COT came about.
Those are the reasons that Mark Martin fought for a decade with Roush and never really could get the Taurus to handle. The rear spoiler raised the front end off the ground and Mark couldn't get the car to really turn on any track they went to.
Then in 2008 after the COT was introduced NASCAR garnished Chevy with a Torque engine package for the Chase, which was another turning point for Chevy, as Ford or Toyota or Dodge wasn't given an engine package until 2013.
It was stated that Gary Nelson was put in place; as the head of NASCAR inspections to make better assessments of cheating. However, all the major rule changes came after he took the helm and pounced on Ford's handling like a rock in a river.....
Edit, I gave this vid a thumbs up. I'm not the evil villain....
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Thank you for your insitghts and video 🙂❤👍
Awesome old school stuff !
I feel super fortunate that I got to meet smokey yunick at his own Shop with a one-on-one personal visit. Even though it was only two separate occasions, he was the one and only, standing right in front of me conversing with me and no one else. How Kick-Ass is that! Privileged and blessed
Great video!
Thanks brother for the kind words...
Andy
That was a great video with a lot of history from the glory days of racing... As far as I'm concerned the real NASCAR went away with Dales passing... It'll never be the same again, all that's really left is drag racing and F1 and long live the local drag tracks and dirt tracks.
Thanks Moparnut62! I agree NASCAR died on that day in Feb.. Thanks for watching buddy
Andy
There was no Chevy in racing when Chrysler turned the 426 hemi lose.
Yeah, it's been all downhill since then. I was a Gordon fan, never a fan of Sr., but crap like the Lucky Dog, the Chase, the COT, stage racing, overtime, and other contrived BS has really damaged the sport. Gordon should have 100 wins and 7 titles if not for their BS. It's as if they were trying to stop HIM from winning any more titles. But Gordon hurt his own cause by hiring his assassin, Jimmie Johnson. Imagine if Gordon had had Chad Knaus, not Steve Letarte, et al.
@@giles-df9yu Yeah, Pontiac rolled over and DIED after that. But Chevy did have the 409, then the 427. They weren't in the Hemi's league, though. Nobody was, though the Ford SOHC would have been, if Bill France hadn't been a dick.
Thanks Andy.
Thank you for watching Bryan!
Andy
Love it or Hate it it's Record of Races won will be hard to beat..
Dave, you are right it will be hard to beat! The SBC laid the foundation for the hobby as we know it...
Andy
This was a fun piece of nostalgia. I also enjoyed pausing the video and looking at the ads.
Thanks for Watching... I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Andy
Well put together video. Thanks!
Love this Tribute to the Small Block Chevy.. Its kind of like when the Chevy L.S came out.. They have big aftermarket support!! The Small Block is the L.S engines Daddy
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for Watching
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage your welcome!! Keep up the good work!
I’ve been enjoying watching you and Mr. Vizard’s channels.
We thank you for watching them! Please Subscribe and help us spread the word..
Andy
You knocked it outta the Park with this one brother, Fantastic Video! Thank you & God Speed
Thank you Sir! Thanks for Watching Jon!
Andy
I'm a new subscriber, a Mopar muscle guy, and Ford truck guy. I'm really liking this channel. You like all the same stuff I do, but you're wayyyy better at actually DOING it.
Thanks for the kind words Jeffry! Glad to have you for the journey
Andy
gr8 info andy
Thanks for watching!
Andy
That’s what my father had! A Chevy vega with a SBC manual. I would never forget that car. It was green with gold flakes.
Man I really enjoy these old clips. It was a different time then.
Yes it was...
Great job. Enough said
Holy crap, Dick Moroso, then Joe Lunatti. Good clips. Before them, it was Vic Sr, Bruce Crower, Stu Hilborn, Kong Jackson, Joe Hunt, Chet Herbert, Phil Weiand, it goes on and on. Royalty.
I'm an Ak Miller advocate, he started out on the crazy Glasspar G2 Special with a "352" stroker 283 Chevy with 4" bores, 3.5" stroker crank, and six Deuce Stromberg 97's for 315 flywheel horspower net. And that was 1960....on a 3 year old 283 block without an oil filter...
Ak Miller was the man... He was one of the true hot rodding pioneers! Thanks for sharing that Dean... Thanks for watching
Andy
Awesome content once again. Keep it coming.
That was done really well
Thanks for the kind words and for watching,
Andy
can't tell you how many guys built these engines to absolutely haul ass in the late 70's and early 80's andy. seen my Pontiac's and my buddies 396's get destroyed by 8000 rpm 327 engines plenty of times. great video Andy.
I remember the old joke that the small journal 327 didn't have valve float.... that was the old school rev limiter. Wind'er til she pops & let'er drop.
On the topic of NASCAR: Back in the 1980s when Oldsmobile, Buick, and Pontiacs were front-runners, it was done with the Chevy V8 engine, as sometime in the 1970s the Olds and Buicks were fitted with Chevy V8s. My 1977 Olds Cutless Supreme had a Chevy 350 V8.
Nothing better sounding then a sbc stroked out with a huge cam killer video keep making more like this very good info👍👍
I got one with a big single turbo just a little 350 vortec with some boost for a project of mine. Ive been more of an import guy but after tearing into the sbc I think its a nice little engine it is compact enough that will fit in most project cars its simple cheap reliable and makes decent power.
Yeah that is the beauty of the sbc... Its cheap and the aftermarket has left no stone unturned! Thanks for watching,
Andy
In mho what made Chevy's great was the fact that if you went from a 283 to a 400cid you didn't have to change your transmission, like with Ford if you went form a 351w to a 351c the transmission bolt pattern was different cause the Cleveland 's block to tranny bolt pattern was based on the the 385 series engine which consisted of the 460,429,400 and the 351c these engine where actually designed for racing applications not just for the street. I hope I remembered this right cause my uncle Guy worked for ford from 69 till he retired in 91. Still like all the hot brands from my youth.
351 W.302 5.0 And 351 C share the same bell housing ! 400m 351 m shared the 429 460 bellhousing!
@@joeh6697 I thought uncle Guy was full of it.
I did check with my family ford freak, but I was still a sceptic on it but since you and five others said the same type of thing it must be right then. Now I can argue with uncle Guy and win a nite of beers thanks for my up coming drinks from my so called uncle know it all.
More bs. Try bolting a 1970 turbo 350 to a 1960 283. Show me what your going to use for a starter?
@@cjbert6790 If you find d a 70's th 350 with a removable bell housing which is a feat on its own cause there hard to find that lets you put the starter on the other side you'll be find cause the filter is in the way or get a relocation kit and wire in a ford starter and solenoid problem solved.
racer6583. What I’m saying is that there is no starter provision on an early small Chevy. Starter was bellhousing mounted.
Dollars for Horses, Compatibility, and Easy Bolt on Results, it's damn hard to beat a Small Block Chevy. The other guys hate Chevy because they are putting up the numbers for nickels on the dollar.
It's hard to beat from that point of view... Thanks for Watching!
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage LoL, but don't get me wrong, I like them all. From the 3.5hp B&S tiller motor to the 500 Caddy (and all the makes in-between). It's my wallet that's a dedicated SBC fan. Not me.
Did you ever think that the reason It has so much aftermarket support is because it wasn’t that great?
@@jjtool5800 Alot of people have made that deduction but what is closer to the truth is the sheer number of motors built is why the aftermarket targeted the sbc , imho.
thats the long and short of it
Another great video!
Thanks for Watching!
Andy
Ed Cole...thats what/who made the small block Chevrolet great.
When Nascar made the rule limiting engines to 360 Cid that probably helped the sbc the most.
I agree Matthew.. That changed forced the small block development to the next level. Thanks for watching,
Andy
It’s a shame Ford killed the 351 Cleveland. I know the Australians did some great things with it.
An excellent design from the beginning coupled with years of production and interchangability made it a winner. I outran a lot of them but, I spent a lot more money doing it.
Man I was born in the wrong era. Imagine being there in the 60’s wow . Imagine having a Time Machine .
Those video clips were awesome back when cars looked like cars not Easter eggs
Thank you very much, that is the reality of it. Thanks MR. VIZARD. I have learned more from his books than from anyone or anything. I would like to hear him or you talk about turbo race camshafts.
Thanks for the kind words. We will probably get into that subject here in the near future... Thanks for watching,
Andy
Smokey yunick is one of the great ones and kudos for the cred. But I can't believe you gave Ed Cole all the credit for the small block because Zora arkus duntov had more to do with its creation
I still like holley developing an intake for the w-2 market at chryslers expense and turning around and making them for the small block chivy. Another fun fact; nhra (which I don't like) weighed down Mopar's because they wanted chivy and ferds indy winner's circle. Same with nascar.
Another great video Andy. Really enjoyed it, as always, thank you!
Great video and learned a lot!
Nice tribute to the SBC and David. His work on making the OE heads flow some great air was truly cutting edge work.
Thanks, it's crazy what I have seen David do... Like make a 396 SBC make right at 600hp on 87 octane pump gas.. and was Mild to drive.. he has taught me so much through the years.. Thanks for Watching!
Andy
I'm a chevy person like the 426 hemi but i did have a 400 cid 1971 caprice smoke the tires all day long even had a cop tell me if you didn't pull over he would have never caught me it did have a dual point distributer.acell plugs wires cap and rotor put that engion in a 50 chevy truck bebuilt the trans also probly still running today.
Once again Andy the videos are great!!! Keep them coming.
Thanks Mark!
What I like about the SBC is that the valvetrain components interchange with SBF making it more affordable for a street engine. Great video.
i thought the fords use a completely different rocker design,often non adjustable? off to school myself,thanks
With Chevy keeping the same style block for so long & abilitie to swap crank . Heads & cams . One motor could make so many combinations . My dad in the gasser days ran a 283 .030 over with 327 fueler heads & cam . Bill Jenkins ran a 331 350 block 327 crank . My brother in-law had a 383 chevy 350 block 0.030 over with a 400 crank . The 358 played well for Chevy wear the 366 played well for dodge . Good video
Thanks for sharing, and for the kind words...
Andy
3:08 Wow, Dick Moroso! Great film find!
Edit: And Joe Lunati at 3:26, it's a who's who of early speed equipment! Ha, that Crane Cams decal on the rear fender is doomed.
Thanks Mick! Most people don't know this but Joe Lunati bought his first Cam grinder from Harvey Crane... I Love racing history of you can't tell...
Andy
Read in a book that the 327 was dubbed the hemi killer,
thats the buick 455 in stage 1 form....what you probably read is ...the sbc is the mouse,hemi is the elephant you know what they say about mice and elephants right?
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 I'm guessing this was earlier on with the much smaller hemi's
The chev is a great engine, and I have one in a '65 Studebaker.... But I still prefer my Fords.
The 351C was handicapped worse than any other engine by the sanctioning body of the NHRA, the head design is still in the DNA of the current FR9 engine for a reason...the ULTIMATE "small block"
The first engine I ever rebuilt with my father was a sbc. She still runs after 14yrs. Actually just dropped it into a 78 z28 Camaro.
That is pretty awesome! You never forget your first engine build... Thanks for Watching,
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage my father helped me disassemble it and we sent it to the machine shop. When we got it back he handed me the Hanes book and said if you follow the directions it’ll go back together just fine. I did just that and she’s running strong to this day
Record a video of the camaro and upload it to TH-cam.
4:38 wow those afr AL heads would be $5k a pair in today's money😯
I know Crazy right!
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage So many people just LS swap or turbo stuff now, or spend big money on heads, exhaust, intake, etc. I love the idea of modifying stock intake/heads/valves to be the best they can be, and using an appropriate cam as the only aftermarket part, maybe an exhaust header/manifold if old and rusty. Not everyone wants a big project that takes several months or years. I think it would be of great interest to many, especially with less common engines with little aftermarket support. I think i may try that route if i can find a clean suzuki samurai, some swap the stock 1.3 8V for a 1.6 8V or 16V, but i have seen that the 1.6 blocks often crack in a certain spot. My old 88 samurai with 60hp was the most fun i ever had!😂 Im sure DV has something like that out there, he has put out so much info sometimes it's hard to navigate!
Damn I need to find a time machine and floor that 327 in my 68 Camaro again .
Grumpy also ran a 327 Nova in A/S against the Hemi cars with great success.
Only thing I hated was that little spring that kept the cam from walking.
Bribes, and more bribes.
Another great video Andy.
Thanks HG
As 2006 and older Chevy/Gm guy this was a great video Andy keep up the good work 👍 Also can't wait to see Casper back on the 🛣️👍
What made it great, was they sold parts for them at the grocery store.. :P
That's about the truth! Thanks for Watching
Andy
For less than the groceries cost. You nailed it my friend, it was cheap. Small, light, compact. Easy to modify.
Very informative, nicely done, and I don't even own a Chevy 😂
i dont own a ford or mopar but i watch 1000s of videos on them and love them.if i had a bucketlist car #1 would be an AAR 340 6 pack cuda and im mainly a gm guy(because of cost,not preference)
One word says it all. Cheap.
yo bro just watched uncle Tony's garage super chat and even though it may have looked that you were bystander I thought it should be mentioned that you were ultimately responsible for that calibration of channels.
Thanks Greg! I like bringing folks together
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage Tony introduced me to your channel you introduced me to David's channel.There's a wealth of information on those three channel alone along with many more on TH-cam. Many but not all some shouldn't be driving a car not mention working one them. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Greg! We will keep the vids coming!
the sbc is cheap,makes power easily.parts are EVERYWHERE and readily available.yes folks,its boring to a lot of people because so many people use them and make them work well...anyone whining about the abundance of LS swaps has no idea how many sbc swaps there are in hot rods,street rods,pro streets,race cars etc...the 10,000 to 1 ratio is probably low.they made millions upon millions of small block chevs in multiple variants.ive got 3 spares in my garage at any given time.they are abundant,they make power and dont cost a fortune.
How's Project Mixed Up Boss coming along, Andy?
I think one big reason it became popular because of the passenger side starter. For example a buick nailhead is similar in size but the driver side starter made it harder to drop it into old chassis.
its because they were in everything,small package and cheap...starter position sure helped though
As always great content Andy. What's your opinion on the relevance of zora arkus duntov and the small block regardless of the corvette.
Great video sir , engine history porn rite there .
Thanks for the kind words John! I blame squirrels also...LOL
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage Me too.....!
Woodworth is a Back stabbing FRAUD!
But what is better a Cosworth DFV or an SBC? :-)
its not about better its about walking 5 feet and you got 10-20 sbc's available.
ive never personally seen a cosworth dfv?i know cosworth by reputation but they arent readily available in any way,shape or form
I don't think we heard much about what made the SBC great in this video. I heard a little about the men who made it accel.
Aftermarket support and cost.
SBC parts were always the cheapest.
Ford parts were about 25% more.
Mopar was twice the price of SBC.
Though I gotta admit the Trans Am 302 was a beast. Even ended up powering the Pontiac cars for a couple of years when the Pontiac 303 wasn't ready.
But I want to build a Pontiac Trans Am tribute car with the 303. Take your typical 400 block, mill about 1.25" off the deck height, and put a 2.84" stroke crank in the bottom. Now put the Ram Air V tunnel port heads on it and rev to 8000 rpm.
Ford parts were the most expensive except for 289-302 stuff. The 302 z-28 engine was simply a destroked 327. A bit overrated in my opinion.
@@cjbert6790 it won races, which is what counted.
Scott Kenny Yes it did until the boss 302 mustangs beat it!
Scott Kenny Trans am pontiac tribute would be cool considering it was the trans am series! Lol
@@cjbert6790 Pontiac Firebird, built as a Trans Am race car. What the factory Pontiac team would have raced in the series, if the Ram Air V 303 was ready.
Got most of the parts figured out, just need time/money/space to build it.
Not the 24 deg head for sure
hi unity motor caption caption please as I lost my hearing from a job i use to have and please let me know when you have the caption working and I will come back to watch thank you :-)
Try it now! sorry about that.. Thanks for watching
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage hi Andy and thank you for you're reply I will try again and let you know if the caption working I grew up having a love for car's my grandfather raced board walk racing my dad was Hotroder and raced the first professional drag race track in the early 50's so I grew up with my Dad's Hotrod's and yes I still love car's no I won't say sorry to anti car assholes but I'm willing to tell them to go fuck there self's LOL :-D have very good day Andy and everyone at Unity motor garage and yes the caption working thank you :-)
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage hi Andy and thank you I real injoyed this video good job would have liked to be five more longer well have good day Andy :-)
At 4:21 the photo at the speedshop, theres a good lookin gal . Back when women were natural.
Its called timing and after market.
Thats true Tom! And it had alot going for it as well...
Thanks for watching,
Andy
are you gonna check your emails
I'm confused... Did you send something.. because I don't see anything..
And the hemi guy's are still crying. 😪😪😪. One thing I don't understand is why they did not make it bigger than a 265 in the first place imagine if it was a 327. Or even a perfect 302. Like so many hot rodders did to the 283. The shit hit the fan when ford made the Boss 302. Than the 351. 4 baral. Gota Love them. Unless u were in a trans am race on a long corse with a 302 chevy. LOL.😡
Low cost to build......
But Ive NEVER owned one and don't plan on it. 😂
@@TheProchargedmopar 😂
You know when I was doing this video, it hit me... I've never owned one myself... Ive built plenty of them though...
Andy
It's funny that they used to bore me so much but now with everyone swapping in LS motors I've come to like the sbc and have a couple builds in the think tank that I think would be cool with a high winding small block.
@@unclesquirrel6951 🐍
Personally I blame squirrels
Me too...lol
Woodworth is a Turd Burglar!!!
Cheap and available.
And will forever power so many fords 😉😉
@@brandonbell3089 probably but they will go out of business before Ford
@@ruthlessreid9172 no one really cares. GM makes a lot of other brands. Pontiac,cadalliac,Buick,Oldsmobile etc
@@brandonbell3089 they'll all be gone Pontiac has been gone for a couple decades most young folks will be driving Chinese electrics
@@ruthlessreid9172 the cheapest brand usually does last the longest 😅
Allowed small cubic inch engines in pro stock??
Aren't you leaving out a little information on that one.
Who would want a smaller engine?
You can check my Hemi video out for that...lol
SBC engines were never great. They had many flaws, and GM failed to correct some of them.
The only reason the small chev did that good in nascar and nhra was simply politics!
More then that.chevy has led the way. That small block is one bad mother. Nascar. Chevy has the wins.
Angelo Zararis I’m not knocking the engine, it’s very good, but that being said the nascar politics in the early 70’s was very biased against Chrysler and Ford.
politics being ,it was a great fucking engine and had readily available parts by the wheelbarrow full
trillrif axegrindor I agree with the aftermarket support, but it’s much easier to dominate when the powers to be make the small Chevy the only game in town by kicking Chrysler and Ford in the gut!
If the old engines were that good why were they replaced with updated models? Just saying.
Cj, that is a great question.. you have to remember that the SBC had over a 40 year run.. They stuck with the basic architecture even in the LT1/LT4 and Vortec configurations.. but I myself being involved in Manufacturing.. the new generations of engineers want to leave there mark on the world so to speak.. plus along with Corporate guidelines on reduced emissions, fuel economy, specific power output and NVH (noise vibration harshness) that is why in my opinion they change... Don't forget to remain competitive against other automakers... It's a domino effect
Andy
I agree, but the LS style is already over 20 years old since it was introduced. Time rolls on.
@@cjbert6790 you are right, and GM is doing the same thing with the LS series as with the small block.. you have the many different versions of the LS and now the LT series with direct port injection.. So who knows where it will end before they change up platforms again
Unity MotorSports Garage. I would say the aftermarket is doing the same thing with the LS as they did with the first generation. Smart innovators follow the dollars! Lol
you answered your own question...why were old airplanes great but replaced by new models? technology advances,things are improved ...things that were great become even better due to necessity and technology
i read somewere years ago that .after the war ford was developing 2 new engines ...one was known as the [ indy ] engine..the other was the y block ford ..i cant prove anything i say but from what i read it did make you stop and think ...if you ever notice the y block and sbc look alot alike on the outside with yes the canted dist on the y block ..and different water pump display ...but both very similar..i read ford experimenting with intake ports is why the y blocks are stacked to any other engine..and the indy was not..long story short..ford developed many indy engines and sold all of them and tooling to chevy...and ford decided to go ahead with the y block ..ever noting the first few thousands of sbc produced were made without oil filter prvisions..and did not have GM part numbers..again ..cant prove any of this but the story went into great detail and did you stop and at least think there might be some truth to that story
no......you heard wrong and misinformation often becomes "pseudofact" just by repetition.....your story reeks of a similar and laughable comparision of the LS being a ford design.it isnt, wasnt and never will be.the thing you do need to remember,things and ideas that work are often incorporated into other things and ideas.the idea of ford doing multi million dollar r and d,then selling it to Chevrolet is ridiculous.....
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 let me lay this on ya....is it really all that far fetched seeing at the time ford was buying trannys off of GM....so it is possible GM bought an engine from ford...chevy was the very last of the big 3 not to have a v8 engine ,,,when they did propose an engine to GM execs they rejected it saying it was to similar to the caddy engine .....and why doesnt the first run of chevy v8's have no GM part numbers on them??...and in the 60's GM was buying 3 speed trannys off of ford for their mid size cars ....buying went on back and forth between the 2 ...and seeing the y block is the only ford v8 with a rear mounted dist and other similarity's between the y block and sbc,,so it is possible..just most ppl do not want to admit it
President Trump made it great again.
Nothing. It was cheap that was the only thing.
What Made the Small Block Chevy Great???
BECOMING A BOAT ANCHOR!