The Hidden Meaning of Oldboy - Earthling Cinema
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What if an alien in the future stumbled upon Oldboy? Welcome to Earthling Cinema, where we examine the last remaining artifacts of a once-proud culture and try to understand what human lives were like before their planet was destroyed. I'm your host, Garyx Wormuloid.
This week's film:
Oldboy (2003)
Starring: Min-sik Choi, Ji-tae Yu
Directed by: Chan-wook Park
Tartan Films
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Written by: Ben Steiner
Analysis & Directed by: Jared Bauer
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he cuts his tongue, because it's the tongue*, which killed Woo Jin's sister.
*fixed the typo
But it was still in good faith, He didn't know if it would've work.
+PyroNexus22 Haha nice analysis but I don't think tong and tongue in Korean would sound the same.
+impalabeeper it was just a typo, I meant tongue.
PyroNexus22
Ah makes more sense.
+BeingHonest Yes that is how she died but it wasn't the reason she died. The rumors that she was having an incestuous relationship with her brother led her to jump and how did those rumors come to be...... Oh Dae-Su spread them by telling other people about what he saw. Can you talk without a tongue? No. So in a sense it was Dae-Su's tongue that spread the rumor that caused her to commit suicide.
Knowing the truth does not set you free, accepting it does.
Thank you! So far the best comment here.
@@Ozkurl I think his bad character (of drinking, fighting) is gone but he knows the secret thats why he was crying
Exactly
Thank you! Wisecrack got that part wrong.
@@Ozkurl there's a comment that explains how Oh Dae-su is actually the one who turned away instead of the monster. That's my headcanon since it would actually make sense that he was laughing and weeping at the same time when they hugged in the end.
But it's crazy tho....none of this would have happened if Woo- Jin never would have slept with his sister....who's really the bad guy here??
@@Kharis- sweet home alabama
@@supercoinman Sweet home okinawa~
his reasoning falls apart from the moment he fornicated with his sister
Yeah right? Almost as if people are fucking stupid 😂
It would of made more sense if instead of them actually committing incest, it was sum misinterpreted by dae su and spread rumors, his revenge would of been more impactful
Laugh and the world laughs with you; weep and you weep alone..
it's more accurate to say:.
Pee and men will stand by you Poop and you poop alone
Zachary L One most powerful and favourite quote of the film
Super sentences
Laugh at one of MY jokes you laugh alone.
"Classic Woo Jin.." lmao
Woo Jin gets me everytime..
"Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone!" This is the wisdom of the film.
We are all pretenders. Nobody wants to cry alone. That's why his smile is forced in the end. He's crying inside.
Gonzo the great Agree
you explained it terribly tho
@@Ozkurl it is left to interpretation whether he really forgot or not
Joker...
Was his sister pregnant or not ?
The reason why the villain was satisfied with Dae-Su cutting his tongue off was because he said the reason he imprisoned him was he 'talked too much' and we later find out that was because of the rumours he spread.
That makes so much sense. Thank you.
Right, I forgot about that random "talked too much" comment. Comes full circle
He didn’t even spread a rumor anyway. It was all the villains fault, but he shifted blame.
That’s an interesting parallel!
that and the comment when he said that Dae-su "assaulted" his sister with his tongue,
as soon as he was let out and met Mido I was sure she was his daughter but then came the confusion with his daughter being in Sweden and it threw me off... the relevation was shocking to say at least... also, the ending is the greatest ending I've seen in a while.
I still didn't understand that part. So the daughter wasn't in sweden? Or was mido his 2nd daughter
@@ayushsrivastava1672 no lee woo-jin set it all up mido was his real daughter.
@@not_cruz3306so does she know that she is his daughter?
@@civilbro5800 no, lee woojin kept his promise and didnt let her open the purple box to reveal the truth.
@@LOVER_LINK so sees him as a bf now?
Who would have thought that a Korean highschool kid's obsession with Greek Tragedies(oedipus rex ) , would one day push him to make one of the best movies ever. Good on you Park CHan wook.
Is this true or is this an assumption? it’s literally a manga adaptation, never heard him mention Greek tragedies before
@@stupideliriumHe gave an interview to faunt (i tried to link it but the comment gets removed) where he explains his passion for Sophokles and greek tragedies in general. The one tragedy that inspired oldboy is Oedepus Rex. The manga does not have the incest part.
My interpretation of the ending was that the hypnotism failed, as oh dae su wakes up about 20 steps away from the chair, similar to how the monster walked 20 steps away during the hypnotism.
He realized that he woke up as the monster and not the good guy that why he was sad
You can't escape from the truth, like was told by crime and punishment, silent hill 2, oldboy has the same message
he is locked up for 15years just so she can turn 18... how is this fair revenge at all. Hard to side with the villain when he goes to extreme lengths to mimic the feeling to some guy that didnt even try to spread the rumor in the first place. The real guy with the big mouth is cheol wong, which was killed by woo jin so really he did get his revenge before the movie was over. woo jin is just trying to fight the pain of losing his sister by getting revenge which only leads to more pain.
Exactly....
I agree, though I also think Woo Jin was "getting revenge" so he wouldn't have to take any responsibilty for his sister's death. He would rather believe that Oh Dae Su maliciously started a rumour about his sister and that his sister killed herself because of that (even though Oh Dae Su left the school the day after seeing them together and wouldn't have even known about the rumours), instead of the possibility that his sister partly killed herself because she was pregnant with her brother's baby and didn't know what to do.
Emotions and logic dont mix
I know this comment was posted 2 years ago, but i've got to say that you completely missed woo-jin's point. Woo-jin didn't care if dae su's act was small or big, all he knows is that it caused a big part in his sister's suicide. Just like what Woo-jin said in the movie: "Be it a rock or a grain of sand, in water they sink as the same."
woojin hates himself for letting his sister go and not responding with “me neither” when she said that she has no regrets. he feels immense guilt so he never tried to revenge his sister, he just wanted someone to go through the same pain as he did.
and the whole “she wasnt really pregnant it was just psychological” thing didnt sit well with me either. the way he held his private part and said it wasnt me that got her pregnant - thats an indication that he either did and feels guilty bc he know incest is wrong and is in denial, or to him this whole thing is about his masculinity as well (which makes sense with the incest thingy). either way hes trash and i really disliked him at the end
I'm really mad that I didn't think how analogous OldBoy and Oedipus are. Well done Smart people on the internet. Well Done.
this
SPOILERT ALERT:
At the end, Oh Dae-Su can't forget anything.
When he is being hypnotized, the woman said that the beast (his reflection on the window, the one who remembers evereything) turns and walks away. We see the Oh Dae-Su reflection turn and walk away. When he wakes up, he's far from where they were siting. He was the one who turn and walked away, so he is the beast, the one who remembers everything.
thumbs up! very interesting and persuasive
+Nelson Alonso The director made it to be open-ended.
Or, maybe, he walked the seventy steps, and the monster inside of him died, making him forget.
Ohhhh myyyyy gooodddd
@Marcelo You also see him aged because of his hair and he is smiling like the monster. It was pretty obvious
yo another thing to mention about this movie since you mentioned the bible, is the idea of retribution. for example, the term used in the film "죄" actually translates to sin, not just crime. and of course there's the whole thing about all sins being equal and that quote about the sand and rock sinking. also the whole biz about "if your tongue causes you to sin, cut it off." i think it's interesting, especially since the thing that saved mido wasn't dae su apologizing profusely (woo jin just laughed what an asshole) but it was dae su cutting his tongue off, rendering him mute. ehh, idk. it's 1:30am and i just watched this film. too fucked up to sleep though
Insightful stuff, man.
Damn, 1:27 here, just finished it
I think the sand and the rock part was a quote from the movie
I watched it late in the night too. It was like between 1-3 AM. I was feeling tired but I wanted to watch Old boy since I heard Cinefix mention it so many times. I couldn't sleep that night. Brilliant film, it's in my top movies of all time.
I finished the movie at about 1:30 AM as well. Weird.@@eirikwf1
Dae Su's contorted smile at the end represents his final imprisonment, this time one of his own making.
Choi MIn Sik is a legendary actor. Please don't compare him to another actor.
Yes! Thank You!
exactly
Reminds me of johnny depp
fr it’s an insult to compare an ok actor like Brolin to a legendary actor like him!!
The human brain is a dedicated comparison-making machine. Please don't whine because not all humans put your favorite celebrities on a pedestal.
At the end of Oldboy, he is interrupted by his daughter before he can make the clearing and complete his hypnosis. He remembers everything and he can never say a word about it. Have a bad day, everybody!
GOODBYE
The chills i got running down mu spine when woojin was telling oh desu everything are indescribable. I was deeply disturbed. The movie has many plots but that one was the strongest.
I dream of a video where garyx's eyebrows have grown so large they occupy three quarters of the screen
I want to see them start having different styles now and then. Little braids, or ribbons, or waxed into zigzags :D
Maestro Gee - "I dreamed a dream of brows gone wide..."
"Later Dae-su & Mi-do hang out in the snow. The end." LMAO 😂😂😂
What an incredible movie, plot twist and performance by Choi. I was so amazedwhen he opened the box and couldnt stoped being surprised until the last moment
"This is the only inaccuracy in the human Bible." My day has been made. Well done!
+Rhamsody Phage www.gotquestions.org/the-truth-will-set-you-free.html The true meaning of that verse. :)
+Joshua Jarod it's great though
THe Bible says. "The truth shall MAKE you free." not set
"Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone, stay in the cold, and you'll freeze your cute little butt off."
heh "this is the only inaccuracy in the human bible".
It's just the opposite! LoL
maximuscesar
It's the ONLY accurate thing in the Bible?
Lotus Prince sorta of. At least for me anyway.
maximuscesar
The book's broken as hell, but I'd imagine that "don't be an asshole" is a pretty good rule - not that too many people seem to follow it. :-P
Lotus Prince this rule is good, but it is already inherited in my own rule (who I think is the better of all): "don't do to others what you wouldn't like they do to you".
Amidst a "Hidden Meaning of..." watching spree, I found this video. The opening statement that if I hadn't seen it in 12,000 years (12 years now, conveniently), I probably wasn't going to see it at all struck me. In my defense, I simply did not know the movie existed-- but nonetheless, either to be contrarian or because I wanted to watch this youtube video on it, I went and watched Oldboy.
Thank you for introducing me to this masterpiece.
+MymindisaMaze Oldboy is awesome, one of my favorite movies of all time! Park Chan-Wook also did 2 other revenge movies, and together they are known as the vengeance trilogy.
Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance
Oldboy
Lady Vengeance
IMO, Oldboy is the best, (The first of them that I saw) but all 3 are really good.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vengeance_Trilogy
"Like the flying guy in the Superman movies" hahahhahahahahahaha
I think it would be very entertaining to see Garyx's take on Akira and its use of misinformation a transcendence of our feeble human condition. Plus an explanation of what the hell was going on from a higher being would be much appreciated.
Part of the movie's problem is that it omitted several volumes from the manga, so there's no possible way to fully comprehend the movie if it's your only experience with Akira.
Are we really going with the "You need to read the book" explanation?
Factoid
I don't mean it like we're talking about The Hobbit, or something. Akira actually is a broken movie. It cuts to events that have no telegraphing or foreshadowing, so the audience WILL be confused. The movie, while iconic, is a mess.
That could explain the mess I guess. Still would make an interesting Episode though.
Factoid Lotus Prince Yeah, the movie omitted about 4 out of 6 volumes from the comic. To use LoTR as an example, it's like watching most of the first movie, then fast forwarding to mount doom. The comic would have made a better mini-series.
This show is really getting better and better and better!
I loved the One Flew Over analysis, and I love this one just as much. 'The truth doesn't always set you free' is such an interesting concept. It makes me wonder how much of the time the truth does set free, actually.
This keeps getting better and better and better and BETTER!!!
What a coincidence I'd just finished reading Oedipus yesterday. Nice.
Do DONNIE DARKO NEXT!!
This video was awesome
Thanks!
I own the original movie for years now. I saw the remake and hated it! >:o
Thane Krios The footage is shown of the remake
@@WisecrackEDU Can you make one on Citizen Kane?
The delivery of the pop culture references is absolutely perfect.
Best movie analysis so far. You guys should do Citizen Kane
Yes, Citizen Kane please! : )
Definitely the most entertaining! Loving this series so far. Even if they didn't explore all of Fight Club themes it had some things I hadn't seen before
Maybe they'll save it for a subscriber milestone.
YES, please, Citizen Kane! I watched it and still don't understand why people love it so much, i'd love to see an analysis.
Matias Alric DIIIIIRECTING and good main character. And let's not forget the theme with the rise and fall in america.
Mi película favorita de todos los tiempos!!! Gracias Wisecrack y gracias Garyx
¡De nada!
+Wisecrack Mis nalgas son bonitas.
Oh!!, ¿Hablas español wisecrack (Speak)? o (or) ¿Simplemente comprendiste el comentario por saber un minimo de español y talvez con un poco de ayuda de Translate google (your not)? .... :D I'm just curious.
Nunca podemos saber la verdad de los norte-americanos.. Que pena (:
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Full Metal Jacket it must be DONE!!!
+Vladimir Lenin
The government will likely tell them to take it down because to summarize its about how the military train people to be non thinking killing slaves...
Nice dog collar...opps i mean dog tags you got there. **Subconscious assault**
+Vladimir Lenin You just like that film because you won.
Haaklong Nguyệt No it's just an amazing film it's Kubrick's best work besides 2001 and The Shining.
Aren't you busy staring into the abyss!?
I think this show is fixedto become my favorite on this channel! Excellent work as always!
'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' would be very interesting and entertaining to analyze.
Another great episode. The one liners in this show are amazing.
Choin min is so good, he is not comparable to any other actor
This series is pretty good, and it's good to see you aren't afraid to go for a foreign-language film. More of that would be nice. Looking forward to the next one
This movie made me dead inside, speechless, and utterly horrified for a while. I finally got the nerve to return to this masterpiece
Make a video about There Will Be Blood
So good
+Wisecrack agree!
No! The hidden meaning is already in the title, so it's a stated meaning I guess.
Have you reviewed Peter Jackson's three-part historical docudrama The Lord of the Rings.
I hope you enjoy doing these as much as I enjoy watching them!!
Namaste
Really great episode. I think you guys have really hit your stride now. I never saw the movie and now I must see it.
Have you seen it yet? I’m very late to the game haha
Yoo my man this episode was good but I had to pause it, watch the movie then come again and enjoy your video.
I follow you on Facebook but I never see u posting the upcoming books/movies you guys are going to talk about.
Would you mind to let us know beforehand so we can prepare?
Thanks my man Peace!!!
I am so happy you guys did this movie. What an excellent episode! I love Oldboy but did not expect to see it on here. Thanks for the pleasant surprise. Also again you guys are hilarious.
Hey Wisecrack i was wondering if you guys could start maybe releasing a list of movies you guys are planning on doing shows on. I would love to be able to have a chance to think about themes and meaning on my own before watching your guy's dope analysis. Plus it seems like you guys always pick movies that are very deep and meaningful so it would give me a list of good movies to watch!
This is by far my favourite series here, I would love to see more :)
His tongue killed Woo Jin's sister. That's why he cuts it off to show Woo Jin that he's truly sorry and not to take further revenge by telling his daughter the truth. It's a story about revenge alright.... Woo Jin's revenge, not Dae Soo's.
And BTW the wisdom of the story is not that the truth will set you free. The truth will imprison you. Everyone lives within a prison of regrets, everyone has done shitty things in their lives, and has fucked up before. People have to find ways to deal with their past mistakes. No matter how good or bad the truth may be, you can either weep or smile when dealing with it:
"Laugh and the world laughs with you; weep and you weep alone."
Laughter and sadness are essentially the same things, they are ways that humans have found to deal with the fact that the world isn't perfect and can often be shitty at times. Tragedy is at the source of all laughter and jokes.
Hey man, that's deep.
I really resonate with this interpreatation, thank you
Look at that! First one to comment on this. Never done that before
I'll take this opportunity to say that I love this channel and I think this show is great! Garex Wormuloid is a fantastic host
Matt Johnson Thank you, fine sir.
Wisecrack do next time sympathy for mr vengeance
Vlad Radulescu I second this!
"Look at me/I'm as helpless as a kitten up a tree."
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One of my favorite movies(Korean version) of all time. Thank you for sharing Oldboy 's greatness to the world.
I remember seeing this movie for the first time. And then the second. While it left quite an impression, I felt like I didn't really get the message of it.
This one didn't change that fact. But at least it left me relive those moments.
"Mido, a young chef sympathetic to his cause"
Yelping
Incest, A game the whole family can play.
Such a good movie, plot on point, twist on point, colors on point, film making on point. It might not be a popular opinion but my favorite part of the whole movie next to the not-so-tongue-and-cheek ending is the Wide angle continuous shot fight scene. Probs one of my favorite scenes in Cinema.
Awesomeeeme video! Keep making such high quality content! :)
Do Silence of the Lambs next.
As a HUGE fan of Oldboy, this was fucking hilarious _and_ informative; awesome vid!
This has quickly become my favourite thing on youtube. You should do Star Wars.
Thanks for toning down the gags. This is the perfect tone! Great stuff.
Also a vote for Akira.
I would love to see something like Blade Runner or Alien done from the perspective of Garix an alien himself :p
To be honest Garyx has a pretty good understanding of human culture, not perfect but it's a really good crack.
To be fair he is an expert on Earthling cinema, the most accurate depiction of their species known to Wurmuloid-kind.
+Manualatice I wouldn't be able to stand studying such a bland culture and ephemeral species. I do not understand his reasons why he would induce such punishment onto himself.
I love this channel so much.
Best episode yet! This series is great.
This movie was great but was one of the most unsettling movies I have seen
nobody:
wisecrack: "is it a metaphor against capitalism"
These videos are entertaining funny and learning. Yayy subscribed
wow its wiser than I thought this would be. quite a thorough analysis! the mirrors told us a lot.
Can't believe I missed the Oedipus Rex parallel. What a great movie.
+cdubbkitari5 It more an Electra complex.
My favourite film.
Thought this to be an odd movie, but these reviews just finally fill some of those cracks I've yet to notice...
Makes me want to see the movie again.
"The only inaccuracy in the Bible." Too funny man. Easily one of my favorite jokes from Earthling Cinema. I can't get enough of this show!
requesting Harold and kumar go to white castle
Garyx Wormuloid is so cool
This series gets better with every installment
just watched Oldboy for the first time today. quality viewing.
Please do an Enemy or Drive analysis! I beg of you!!!
Seconding Drive
Yes! Do Drive!
I bet there'll be jokes involved Ryan Gosling and ducks...also it's my favourite movie of all time! :D
Oh yea one more thing im not getting any notification of new videos ever since the new youtube app update I don't know if maybe you guys can get on TH-cam butt for something to fix that thank you very much
VEROTIKAA Shit, thanks for letting me know. Need to check with TH-cam...
Garix wormuloid I thoroughly Enjoyed this review! In fact, if I do sit and watch this movie, I believe it would only be due to your incredible and comedic review. Excellent job keep up the good work hope to see more of your original talent.
Awesome, My favorite movie! Great video and great series.
Little piece of trivia: apparently (or at least so I've heard) Oh Dae Su's actor, Choi Min Sik, is a vegetarian (or maybe even vegan? don't quite remember). So the part where he eats a still-wriggling squid? Yeah, this guy took method acting to rare extremes in this movie. I'm pretty sure Park Chan-wook (the film's director) only made him do the one take. Or at least I hope so...
I might be wrong but I remember reading that he did the take 4 times
Yikes.
And he said a prayer for every squid he ate. Because he is a Buddhist, and he prayed for the squid's soul (life energy, to my humble knowledge).
i hate that about the film. really really hate it. even when other than that it's such a good film
"This is the only inaccuracy in the human bible." LOL!!!!
Awesome movie... Highly recommended. Thanks for introducing it to me!
Man this movie was BEGGING for a good old piss take... great to see someone finally did it! Kudos ;)
You know what's great? Adams family values
Do High School Musical!!!
Hahahaha come on this is legit
With one swift motion of clicking subscribe, Michael got lunched in the gut. Thank you, Garyx.
Gosh I love this channel.
Classic Woo-Jin
Bible truth confirmed.
Checkmate atheists.
These never disappoint.
Loved this!
"Or maybe just to be gross" hahaha
PLEASE DO REQUIEM FOR A DREAM
This was the first thing I watched after finishing the film, and boy did I need that laugh.
Just getting better and better
You ever considered calling this channel "Knowledge Bomb" - you must of at some point...
K Gnosis cool idea
+Wisecrack I believe the proper vernacular is "kewel", these days
+Ryan Golden Shut up Ryan!., just just Shitup!
Please do 'The End of Evangelion!'
and here we have some great one-liners once again.
I hadn't spotted the link between Oldboy and Oedipus before. Thanks Earthling Cinema.